I remember this episode. What blows me away more than the reverend getting shot is that this little girl is like 12 and she's already dealing with a jealous psychopath boyfriend.
Isn't this also the same episode where Mary dates a guy that gets rough with her at the arcade or wharever that was,when he was trying to "guide" her on how to play it right?
I remember 7th Heaven always had some sort of lessons in each episode (at least at the beginning) and I think this one was about violence. How awful violence was.
It seems that's what sells, and, why the hell would his parents buy him or let him buy such music? You'd think they would monitor what kind of music he would listen to.
Imagine if you will the life of a simple small town preacher. He's a good father, tries to help his community. Teaches others to walk down the right path. Well little did he know that today he would be walking on the wrong path. A path that twists and turns. That's somehow both an exit and an entrance leading in the opposite direction directly to THE TWILIGHT ZONE.
Detmstr exactly and look what happened Johnny got removed from the home because if his dad being in denial and his son ended up shooting Eric that what happens when a father is in denial.
I wish there was a laugh track from 2:41-2:50 where the audience starts cheering, clapping and at 3:04 the laugh track has the sound of the audience laughing
yeah this is a show where they jump the shark in nearly every episode there is one episode where simon is driving and hits a kid and they say the kid was high on pot so it was ok
Denzel Torres probably doing lots to her name was Deena maybe controlling her this relationship between deena and Johnny wasn’t ever talked about I never heard anything about Johnny I watched every single episode of 7th heaven.
They left out the part where his dad threatened to take the kid out of school and put him in a private school where he wouldn't be subject to insults like that. It was almost immediately afterward that he entered the room and shot him. Later the kid was tried in juvenile court and sentenced to be sent away until he was 25.
Sad Johnny father was also in denial why because he was part of the problem the threats should have not be taken lightly look what happened either Simon or Eric would have been shot sad Eric got shot very sad.😒
They’re 12. Many 12 year olds have bf/gfs… though immature. And many places in the USA, there’s 12-13 year olds who steal their parents guns or do bad things. Look at Detroit. Or recently that 14 year old boy Aiden Fucci who stabbed his peer 13 year old Tristyn Bailey 160 times in St. John’s Country Florida. Kids can be evil. Sorry to tell you.
Yeah, let’s just let the kid out who threatened his ex GF, Simon and shot a man out at at the age of 12-13. Because who knows what kind of angry things he could do next when let out as a freshman in high school. SMH. You must be privileged to have never been around a dangerous person or have basic psych101 knowledge of a very unstable person who would have done more than just shot someone like Eric. Had that kid not been taken away, he would have gone on to murder someone, ràpe his next girlfriend and all other TRUE CRIME things you hear about these days. Look at Aiden Fucci (14 year old who stabbed his 13 year old peer Tristyn Bailey 160 times). Aiden Fucci was just as mentally unstable as the boy in this episode. He had all sorts of weird stuff on his social media, talked about shooting and stabbing just like this kid. His ex gf said he threatened her JUST like this kid. And Aiden is getting life. Lucky for you to never have to deal with a sociopath. And also, it’s not up to Eric, but the judge. Educate yourself a little more on how things work. Your anger towards Christians is both pathetic and sad. Hope you find some happiness someday and stop blaming the ones who have their head on their shoulders. Yikes!
In fairness, this was before Columbine. For the aftermath, they did an episode where Simon sees the signs, then reports it. Leading to the school finding a gun in his locker.
I know this is supposed to be a comedy channel and what not... but this episode is pretty dark and it involves a subject matter that really shouldn't be joked about. This was filmed in the 90s and yet the same issues are still at the forefront today. Hate me all you want... this was a good episode and the handled it pretty well. At point can we just let any tom, dick and harry own a gun?
Well they didn’t want to show him doing that. This isn’t like Supernatural or some crime series where they could get away it it. This was on the WB IN THE 90’s! There also wasn’t social media where they could see his Google history. This was realistic at the time of airing. Boys having magazines in their lockers was normal at that time. Using your locker for any real purpose back in the 90’s and early 2000’s was NORMAL.
Jaclyn Schilt could be lots of reasons Johnny has lots of problems if you heard the principal plus I am sure Johnny didn’t want the revended to take action against him and help Simon so very happy he got taken out of his dad home his dad was in lots of denial.
The only thing that I never liked about 7th Heaven was the bias that this show had against guns. Of course a mentally unstable child with access to a gun is very wrong, BUT guns aren't the problem. Anyone with awareness, practice, and responsibility can own a gun and never use it, if they are never put in a dangerous situation.
Pamela Woodward -____- ... In case you're truly interested in knowing, I didn't hear about the scandal until long after I posted my cent about the gun bias. Not to mention, I've stopped watching this show a looong time ago. Too dramatic like your prudent response. I mean really? On what grounds were you basing your reply on anyway?
If that’s really the only thing you didn’t like about this hilariously exaggerated white show than that’s scary. This episode although actually took gun control seriously, surprisingly. With the number of school shootings we have it drew attention to the warning signs of unstable people. True guns don’t kill people, but they sure help. Not being anti-gun but the father should have at least hidden it in a safe.
I remember this episode. What blows me away more than the reverend getting shot is that this little girl is like 12 and she's already dealing with a jealous psychopath boyfriend.
It might not happen in a suburb like this, but definitely in a urban area. Not totally unrealistic.
Isn't this also the same episode where Mary dates a guy that gets rough with her at the arcade or wharever that was,when he was trying to "guide" her on how to play it right?
@@JamesSmith-jq6om yep, that's the one
This show was ahead of it’s time
@@Mr1Fantastic713 lol! Tell me about it. That's what we see today sadly.
Johnny joined Blackburn 16 while in prison
BB16 for life. I didnt choose the thug life, it chose me, and yes i been to prison. BB16 nigga
Kid probably found out about the good reverend exposing himself to his 13-year-old sister.
exactly
I need a clip of just the dad saying, “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people” and then the reverend saying “People with guns kill people!”
screen record on a phone =)
I just saw this part just as I read your comment. Lmao!!!
Reverend Camden was against the second amendment forsureski
check out "A Very Special Episode"
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I remember 7th Heaven always had some sort of lessons in each episode (at least at the beginning) and I think this one was about violence. How awful violence was.
I'm almost to this episode in my binge watching. This is a scary episode for sure.
But sucks that someone has to get hurt for others to realize.
the music and sound effects are hilarious!
"CDs of an extremely sexual and violent nature"
It seems that's what sells, and, why the hell would his parents buy him or let him buy such music? You'd think they would monitor what kind of music he would listen to.
Comic books along the same theme 😂
Why did Eric Camden make that sound and smile when he heard his son say. Are u crying ?! LOL!
Young love?
Encourage his son to fornicate
I remember seeing this when it 1st aired! I was so scared when he shot the reverend!
Same I had nightmares and could not sleep
Atleast the kid did not point his gun at underage girls
Then Johnny was caught and charged with attempted murder.
He got 13 years for it.
0:38 ALL RIGHT JOHNNY, YOU OWE SIMON AN APOLOGY FOR MISTREATING HIM IMMEDIATELY! AND HIS DAD FOR YOUR SHOT!
Imagine if you will the life of a simple small town preacher. He's a good father, tries to help his community. Teaches others to walk down the right path. Well little did he know that today he would be walking on the wrong path. A path that twists and turns. That's somehow both an exit and an entrance leading in the opposite direction directly to THE TWILIGHT ZONE.
I'm shocked to find out this show had 11 seasons in 11 years.
It was a hit show at the time
Aren’t you seeing this now? I’m shocked it didn’t last 20 years. Pure entertainment.
This show was awesome when I was 14. Me and my sis, bro and mom used to watch it together every week.
Oh, the melodrama.
It would've been funny if "Johnny" had pulled his gun, only for Simon to pull a 44 Magnum. I wonder if Johnny felt lucky?
Well does he punk?
i guess you got to ask your self one question do i feel lucky
Big Simoleon Simon don't play games
Or maybe Simon could use the powers of darkness like Riku. ;)
When johnny points with his finger, simon should've said this:
"What is pointing your finger and moving your thumb gonna do"
Simon saw it differently. When someone does the finger gun, that's a major red flag.
Buh-boom
I can't believe how clueless that so called father was. The signs were clear as crystal.
Detmstr exactly and look what happened Johnny got removed from the home because if his dad being in denial and his son ended up shooting Eric that what happens when a father is in denial.
Facts.
@@selinaogorman8380 And now, he's going to spend the rest of his childhood in a juvenile facility, and possibly the rest of his life in prison.
I remember watching this episode as kid growing up
This episode was rather scary, as someone who was threatened with the exact same threat (more or less), it still hits rather hard.
I wish there was a laugh track from 2:41-2:50 where the audience starts cheering, clapping and at 3:04 the laugh track has the sound of the audience laughing
Why? It's pretty dark now looking at this.
Wish the show (reruns) were back on TV. This show sure talked about real life happenenings
It's a mystery why this show lasted 11 seasons and much better show like Firefly gets cancel after one season!
Because it was a great show with millions watching it
Two words: Huge Ratings. This episode alone got 9 million viewers
I hate it, but it was really easy to follow and had no dead moments, at least when I followed the first seasons as a kid. 40 minutes flew by.
I forgot why I use to watch this show. This show never ever failed to showcase a important message throughout every episode.
COMMON SENSE
Should have showcased how not to be a child predator. Looking at the Revand here.
Lol that's the dad from Moody's Point
WTF was that ending? I laughed at that
Johnny threatened Eric's son Simon to
Shoot his son with a gun
0:21 LMAO Eric 😂😂😂
Johnny owns a gun and he used the
Gun to shooting Eric's son simon
Johnny is going to shooting Eric
in the arm
This show is fucking insane how have I never heard of it before
yeah this is a show where they jump the shark in nearly every episode there is one episode where simon is driving and hits a kid and they say the kid was high on pot so it was ok
@@greggpeterson2443 That in of itself is insane you never heard of this show.
It was on ABC television I believe for like 3-4 seasons.
Then it switched over to WB tv
@@gacdad “3-4 seasons??
It was on for like 11 years 😳
Simon's dad in the solider and went to the hospital ❤
Deena Broke Up With You Johnny
So Why Don't You Get Over It !
I be the same way. Dang kids.....you talk with them, they never listen.
We were the same way. They'll say the same thing about their younger generation.
Johnny did know about gun to shoot Eric's son Simon theater by Johnny ❤❤❤
It seems here that Johnny here has threatened 2 shoot my kid he told me everything Johnny he also told me how u pointed your finger at him as a gun.
Johnny picopath Johnny was planning to going to shoot him and Johnny
Is a picopath
he's a socialpath
Johnny was doing way to much for diana
Denzel Torres probably doing lots to her name was Deena maybe controlling her this relationship between deena and Johnny wasn’t ever talked about I never heard anything about Johnny I watched every single episode of 7th heaven.
Gotta LOVE TV !!!!
Great Job Ron !
this actually happened in the series? The Reverend got shot? damn
They left out the part where his dad threatened to take the kid out of school and put him in a private school where he wouldn't be subject to insults like that. It was almost immediately afterward that he entered the room and shot him. Later the kid was tried in juvenile court and sentenced to be sent away until he was 25.
Oh yeah. It was a real wild ride
That's what he gets for molesting children.
Yep...if I'm not mistaken, the TV Guide ad for this episode actually proclaimed "Tonight, someone will shoot Eric Camden!".
it's not the gun, it's the person.
Hold on did this happen in the series??
yup
Damn this show looks good, how to watch?
Paramount+ seems like the best way
No pastor never say mean things to others. We all chirstian.we need to follow what bible says. He deserves that.
Sad Johnny father was also in denial why because he was part of the problem the threats should have not be taken lightly look what happened either Simon or Eric would have been shot sad Eric got shot very sad.😒
Someone could have gotten killed
Kimberly Ortega absolutely I agree would have all been prevented if Johnny father took action terrible.
,
Johnny’s father is probably the kind of person who listens to and worships Alex Jones!
DAD: yo man you messed up
lil KID: yo check out this sick burn
All three of them look like siblings 😂
How bout how Simon is like 9 and has a girlfriend lmao
They’re 12. Many 12 year olds have bf/gfs… though immature. And many places in the USA, there’s 12-13 year olds who steal their parents guns or do bad things. Look at Detroit. Or recently that 14 year old boy Aiden Fucci who stabbed his peer 13 year old Tristyn Bailey 160 times in St. John’s Country Florida. Kids can be evil. Sorry to tell you.
hard to believe the kid got locked away till he turns 21. if Reverand Camden was a true Christian he'd make sure that kid got lighter sentence
Yeah, let’s just let the kid out who threatened his ex GF, Simon and shot a man out at at the age of 12-13. Because who knows what kind of angry things he could do next when let out as a freshman in high school. SMH. You must be privileged to have never been around a dangerous person or have basic psych101 knowledge of a very unstable person who would have done more than just shot someone like Eric.
Had that kid not been taken away, he would have gone on to murder someone, ràpe his next girlfriend and all other TRUE CRIME things you hear about these days. Look at Aiden Fucci (14 year old who stabbed his 13 year old peer Tristyn Bailey 160 times). Aiden Fucci was just as mentally unstable as the boy in this episode. He had all sorts of weird stuff on his social media, talked about shooting and stabbing just like this kid. His ex gf said he threatened her JUST like this kid. And Aiden is getting life. Lucky for you to never have to deal with a sociopath. And also, it’s not up to Eric, but the judge. Educate yourself a little more on how things work. Your anger towards Christians is both pathetic and sad. Hope you find some happiness someday and stop blaming the ones who have their head on their shoulders. Yikes!
It was actually 25 but tbh I feel like 21 would have made it clear
Wtf the kid was a psychopath. He tried to murder someone.
1:39 So a mix of good and bad
So he threatens to shoot Simon, but instead shoots his dad?
He got him kicked out of school due to confronting his family and Simon and Deena were put in the House to make sure he didn't come for them.
this is the only full episode I've seen.
When Karen teachers decide that suspending little boys for finger guns isn't enough.
In fairness, this was before Columbine. For the aftermath, they did an episode where Simon sees the signs, then reports it. Leading to the school finding a gun in his locker.
@sirgothnerd9297 Yep, Season 6 Episode 2, Teased.
A police officer Sergeant Michaels he was also a government agent Atkins In Guyver 2 : dark hero
My mom used to watch this show the only episode I remember is with the middle finger
I know this is supposed to be a comedy channel and what not... but this episode is pretty dark and it involves a subject matter that really shouldn't be joked about. This was filmed in the 90s and yet the same issues are still at the forefront today. Hate me all you want... this was a good episode and the handled it pretty well. At point can we just let any tom, dick and harry own a gun?
lmfaoo wtf just happened
What season was it
307. Deena's second appearance I believe
These are pretty funny 😅😅
Back when christians didn't like guns huh wot
Johnny got a bat and goes by Negan
0:22 Eric likes it when little girls cry
Simon should have talk to Arn Anderson about this kid
It seems like the principal talks and looks like Steve Gutenberg 🤨
“Ooooh I thought so” this show is horrible.
Season and episode
Simon Mack Star Track Star Camden
2:42 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I BLAME THE LIMP BIZKIT
❤❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Who answered their door like that?
Johnny Morton's a villain
"Pictures of people torturing animals." LOL DA FUCK???? Did the writers of this show try in anyway to be somewhat realistic.
Well they didn’t want to show him doing that. This isn’t like Supernatural or some crime series where they could get away it it. This was on the WB IN THE 90’s! There also wasn’t social media where they could see his Google history. This was realistic at the time of airing. Boys having magazines in their lockers was normal at that time. Using your locker for any real purpose back in the 90’s and early 2000’s was NORMAL.
0:21 🙌🏽🙌🏽
This aired 5 months before Columbine Shooting!!!
Why did he shoot him?
That kid was messed up. Or perhaps he wanted to punish the reverend in lieu of not being able to find Simon.
Jaclyn Schilt could be lots of reasons Johnny has lots of problems if you heard the principal plus I am sure Johnny didn’t want the revended to take action against him and help Simon so very happy he got taken out of his dad home his dad was in lots of denial.
The only thing that I never liked about 7th Heaven was the bias that this show had against guns. Of course a mentally unstable child with access to a gun is very wrong, BUT guns aren't the problem. Anyone with awareness, practice, and responsibility can own a gun and never use it, if they are never put in a dangerous situation.
Its Commiefornia. Don't expect Hollywood to ever acknowledge the supreme law of the land.
JT Smith Don't forget about that one episode of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air where Carlton buys a gun after getting mugged.
Pamela Woodward
-____- ... In case you're truly interested in knowing, I didn't hear about the scandal until long after I posted my cent about the gun bias. Not to mention, I've stopped watching this show a looong time ago. Too dramatic like your prudent response.
I mean really? On what grounds were you basing your reply on anyway?
Shooting guns for fun is not a problem as long as your safe.
If that’s really the only thing you didn’t like about this hilariously exaggerated white show than that’s scary.
This episode although actually took gun control seriously, surprisingly. With the number of school shootings we have it drew attention to the warning signs of unstable people. True guns don’t kill people, but they sure help.
Not being anti-gun but the father should have at least hidden it in a safe.
Eric died rip
He was really shooting Stephen
My daughter
Omg
Selena
This so is dramatic lol. This dad is obviously a lib
In real life he got charged with sexual assault or some shit
You talking Johnny’s dad? Again, he probably listens to and worships Alex Jones!
Guns are Dangerous my family don't carry guns
Imagine the heads exploding on right wing media about this show ‘grooming’ kids if this show aired today! 😂
This show was so corny..watch it when I want to cringe and laugh... especially the dad ,always overacting.
Yeah but was he overreacting in this episode? I mean he ended up being right about the kid.
There should be no license to oen a firearm, dumb show
What sort of subversive anti gun leftist show is this? 😉😅