I am a German guy and I kind of like traditional gender roles (only to a certain extent of course, not like "woman barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen" level). So, the paying question on a first date is actually a good indicator. If the girl seriously refuses to let me pay, it is clear that we have a different mindset as to gender roles and that we should better not start a serious relationship.
I 100% agree. As an American, I have been "conditioned" towards traditional gender roles more than most Western European women have been. There's a long history behind these differences, mostly dating back to the World Wars. American men came back from the world wars - and well, European men did not. When American men returned, it was strongly enforced that women were to return back to the home and the children. European women were needed in the workforce, at least for awhile. American soldiers, married and single, were often "plagued by beautiful foreign women" in all of our various foreign affairs - and the consequence was men brought venereal diseases home to their wives. The army tried to combat this problem by soliciting the wives' "help" - by saying "you had better stay attractive enough or else your husband will be tempted by these beautiful foreign women and bring home venereal diseases. It is your duty to America to stay beautiful and attractive so that your man will stay faithful to you when he is overseas." Although these are obviously no longer conscious thoughts of American girls today, this was the mentality that has permeated our culture over the last 100 years. I understand that some people will say that it's wrong to uphold these traditional gender roles. But to me, part of equality is having the CHOICE and the KNOWLEDGE and the UNDERSTANDING to make the decision for myself that I simply prefer traditional gender roles.
Interesting. I gave up dating in Berlin, because I found people cheap. That doesn’t mean I’m expecting or want someone to pay stuff. Just means I found nice when people wants to treat you.
@@MegaVieira1990 Berlin is different. It is very woke and LGBQT and feminist, etc. Not many traditional men in Berlin. I mean the rich/middle class parts of Berlin - there are obviously parts with many Muslims, etc. that are very macho (which is also not good). You should try cities like Munich or Hamburg.
@@justlivinglife2532 You can not know it. I also do not know if a woman wants to pay for herself. You must just try it. Just pretend that you are willing to pay for yourself (e.g. put your wallet on the table) and if the man wants to pay for you, he will make it clear.
@@dagda3000 Yes, I’m aware of it and I appreciate it. But that shouldn’t mean cheap people. Kindness and generosity could live together. Just making sure I don’t mind to also pay for my dates or not have any problem in split sometimes. But found it a bit annoying that almost everyone is just counting cents and not willing to treat you and finding it pleasant . Yes I agree. Those cities might be different. I lived one year in Hamburg but was busy to date enough :p
I pay for my own stuff nowadays, cause I already met guys who where really disappointed that paying for my drinks during the night didn't mean for us to have sex. Also I hear alot of women talking passionatly about being treated as an equal, but when it comes to paying they expect the man to pay for dinner, buy expensive gifts,... The thought of somebody "buying" me like an object disgusts me. On the other hand if he wants to genuinly pay for it if he likes you and isn't expecting any sexual response in return it is ok for me. It is easy to spot the difference though, you do you.
Thanks for watching.😊 Like you said it's easy to spot the difference between those who genuinely wanna pay and those who have expectations. In the end every woman will do what she is comfortable with.
as a man, i think it depends how the date develops when it comes to the bill-question, i have no problem when a woman wants to pay her pwn part. But when i invited her, i would pay because of the inventation and it dosent matter if ir is a date our just friend. its just a part of giving and taking, one timw i pay next time the other pay.
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My German husband says if you buy for the woman then she might feel obligated to you, best to to treat like an acquaintance which a date is which means paying for yourself in Germany. Dating is very casual and informal here, it’s basically hanging out to see if you like each other as friends or more
It would have been nice to hear also the views/perspectives from a black girl. Latinas and black girls are considered exotic here so having more of a discussion instead of a interview format would also be cool. Love the Video thou🙂👍🏽
Omg i am already Fascinated by his woman such a knowledge she has. I live and work in Berlin for quite few months now but haven’t came across such a fantastic personality.
2:31 spot on. Granted, there are a lot of creeps, and typically, if a guy is handsome he can get away with it, but a lot of other guys feel like they are called a creep because of the notion that is even very hip in movies etc of woman being as good and powerful as men if not better
Call me old fashioned, but if a man asked me out, I expect him to pay for our first meal. Obviously I will still take out my card, and if he doesn’t offer to pay for the whole bill, I will pay my part. That way, I leave with a clean conscience and when I cut him off later, I feel no guilt. That’s just me tho.
Dating is difficult in big cities because of the pressure of work. In Dubai, it's very difficult getting a decent partner, 90% are either wants an open relationship or a one night stand. Great content 👍
So this open relationship phenomenon is more widely practised that i thought. Well to each his own. As long as the 2 parties are equally aware and informed and are in agreement.
As a guy in Germany you HAVE to offer to pay the whole bill at the end of a date with dinner, for example. You have to offer it...and then the women quickly say to the waiter: No, split the bill, please. So you have to offer it and then the women (mostly) say quickly: No split the bill. That is like a ritual and it happens nearly every time. At least to me. It is very rare that the women are accepting it that the man is paying everything. But again: As a man you have to offer it and you have to tell the waiter, that you are paying. I dated many women in the past and there were only a few times, where I really had to pay everything. In fact I remember only one time paying everything and she came from an Arabic background. All other women were "bio"-Germans and they want to demonstrate their independence and the fact, that one can't "buy" them with a dinner. I respect that...and I never felt bad about it. Quite the opposite, because it isn't meant as a rejection (at least most of the time) and I save the money. :-)
@@miasanarsenal9950 Only the women really care about that subject. It is like a fetish for them for many different reasons. No matter if they are traditional, regular or "Girl-Power"-women. I never cared. I give a damn about the fact that I have to pay or not to pay. I really don't care. Whatever makes the girls happy... 😄🙄 It only was very unusual, that the Arab girl didn't "played the German game" and therefore I remember it.
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What happen to German man? I'm German, was raised by my German mother. I never had an experiment like she is talking about. I lived in Germany for 24 years. Not once did I have to pay half of my dinner or the next drink. If a man invites me to dinner, then he pays for it. If I would invite a man, then I would pay for it. But that never happen to me. In my experience, German man are hard to talk to. That's why I married an American. They are fun to be with and always paid for everything. It never occurred to them to ask a women to pay half. If that was the case, I would not go out with him again. He asked me, not the other way around. He bought me 24 roses on a date. But then my German upbringing kicked in. I asked him why he got me flowers. Told him the will be dead in a few days. From then on he bought me other things. One or twice he got me a watch. After that a friendship ring, etc. It went all the way up to a wedding ring. I had a very good marriage with him. But then he got very ill and died. I still miss him 14 years later and I stayed true to him. I will till my time comes. I loved him so much and still do.
He was a lucky man. I grew up in the southeast US and it never occurred to me that a woman I asked out should pay. Even if she asked me simply by saying yes in my mind I would still pay. The girls are a product of a broken narrative. Sad. Have a good day
Listen sister, this the most beautiful thing ive read all day. I'm glad you found something so special, true love by the looks of it. And you refuse to share that intimacy with anyone else? Respect, respect 200%.
@@awesomebearsWhy do you respect that she chooses not to date other men? Would you disrespect her if she didn't? When a woman dies, men are back on the horse of dating as soon as possible. Their "grieving" consists of finding another woman to look after them. Interesting........
@@toomuchinformation dawg you making my good compliment and positive energy and turning it into an argument. Do something better. On a side note. I would respect any man or woman that does the same as this person did. You are literally generalising men and women. You forget, everyone is different.
As an American woman, I've had so many conversations about this topic of paying for the first date with Germans. Although it is changing to some degree, for the most part, in America, it is widely expected that the man pays for the first date. It is considered extremely offensive and rude to suggest that the woman pay half. Now, I've heard from numerous Germans about this, who find this abhorrent. They find this behavior from American women selfish, greedy, and gold-digging. But really, I think it comes down to a wide difference in cultural standards. An American woman is often expected to put a major investment (both in time and money) into a first date. Depending on the date, she could easily spend $200 on new makeup and clothes and over 4 hours getting ready for the date. I know that probably sounds excessive (and perhaps it is), but that is also the cultural expectation held by a lot of Americans. Although this does occur in Germany, this seems to be rare. It seems to be the norm that women simply wear something they already own, use makeup they already own (if they wear makeup at all), take a quick shower, wear their hair naturally, and go out with a very natural look. If German men and German women are investing an equal amount of time and money into the pre-date process, then it's fair to pay 50/50. But if there's an expectation set that one person is supposed to look in some way that costs an excessive amount of time and money, then it's fair for the other member to pay for the cost of the date. In America, it's very common for men to show up to the date in gym shorts and a dirty t-shirt, having not showered after the gym, messy hair, while simultaneously expecting the woman to have manicured nails, a pedicure with no chips, highlights in her hair, makeup that is classy but not trashy, a nice outfit that shows off her goods without looking slutty, classy accessories. In these situations, why should the woman also pay half?
That is actually true. Obviously, a german doesn’t force a woman to do all that chic stuff, but let’s be honest, none of them would say no to a good looking lady and everyone would definitely pick her over a mediocre one. Women spend so much time and money for their looks, whereas men don’t. So if we’re talking about equal contribution, it would be fair for them to take care of that cup of coffee.
I'm American and I disagree; a woman from a first-world country should at least offer to pay. In fact I have dated many German and Austrian men and I have always offered/tried to pay but they really appreciate the offer. It's not unreasonable for a guy to expect us to split the bill because we are just getting to know one another. Also, I am from Southern California where there is A LOT of competition. The average girl going to the gym has her hair done, make up and nice clothes. Maybe in Ohio or Kentucky it be a big deal to dress up but the standard of what you wear when seeing a guy is high. Obviously, it's easier to date pretty anywhere else on the planet away from LA but you girls in these other states are really spoiled.
@@heatherfeather9951 Im sorry but calling women spoiled for not wanting to pay half is dumb. I dont call you desperate for wanting to pay half. It is to each their own really. At the end of the day some women want to be courted and taken care off and would rather not pay. Other women want to have a 50/50 relationship (which does not exist in my opinion) and pay the other half. Both are fine and each women is allowed to choose what they want without being shamed. I have never been on a date where I paid half. How are you going to ask me out and then let me pay half? Thats crazy to me😂 I even sometimes pay for my friends when I ask them out to eat so with me personally that could not fly. But again, to each their own.
@@msgirly6827 Anyone can demand whatever they want/expect from a man but that doesn't mean they will get it. Similarly, just proclaiming oneself to be a "queen" or a "goddess" doesn't make it so. If there are guys who want to spoil you as you feel entitled to be spoiled then so be it. I believe that equal privilege means equal responsibility. I don't see paying my own way as a problem because I expect to be treated as an equal, and most Western European men have no problem with this. Also, if you're not in the top ten percent of looks wise (I'm not claiming to be myself) you really can't be that demanding. Women who are not trying to look feminine cannot expect to be accorded traditional female benefits (ie having a man treat them). You don't have a profile picture or any videos for which to show your feminine charms.
@@heatherfeather9951 I am confused as to what the intention of the last part of your comment means. Care to explain? I am little confused because indeed I dont have a profile picture and videos but what does that have to do with anything?
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I recently moved to Munich (from London) and found that living 12 years in London I got approached maybe 5 times during that whole time. In Germany it's just so much easier to strike up a conversation as the pressure is just not as high. In London if a guy would approach he would be so obvious about it with explicit words. While in Germany they would just have a convo, very easy going, unless they would just want to have some fun then they would be more forward.
Okay I’ve subscribed and liked even before finishing the video . Now give me the tea because Germany is on my list of European countries to move to ! Lol 😘
the whole dating thing your talking about sounds so far from "the bubble" that i live in.😅 im from berlin (i´ve never used dating apps in my life) and whats strange is that i´ve met women that were like "wow your from berlin, thats so cool! your the first person from berlin that ive met." and for me thats kinda strange too. because im an open person and i used too meet a lot of "foreigners" before covid. so how come im the the first berliner u meet when u actually living in berlin?? for me "dates" arent supposed to be something super special (like dressing up and going to a fancy restaurant). the dates i most enjoyed most were the ones when i took the girl to paint graffitti with me or to a rooftop watching over the city having a beer or climbing over a fence and watching the trains beneath us while enjoying the sunset and having a nice conversation. nothing fancy and way more of a special moment than having dinner in some restaurant. at least thats my opinion
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Honestly, I got approached all the time even on the street in Berlin , its super common not to mention in a bar and I have heard this from other women as well😅
Why would you pay for him? You can just pay for your own stuff 😅 and just because he chose to pay for you doesn’t mean you have to pay next time coz he chose to do so
Personally, I fear of bothering a person or getting misunderstood due to language etc. Also some women try to act like everyone is a harasser which is very bad.
I liked the video! Estefania says real intelligent, well-thought things. And you can tell she really tries to understand the Berliners instead of holding on to the way they date in Ecuador. One thing tho, its 2020, and like Estefania said, Berlin is keen in womanpower. So about the dating apps, she's using them because men don't ask her out. Is it their responsibility to initiate cause they are men? If she sees a guy whom she thinks is cute, why doesn't she ask him out? In the video, it seems like it doesn't even cross her mind, she could actually do that.
I'm glad you liked the video. 😊 As for approaching guys, I believe Estefania would if she did find the guy interesting. However, some women just enjoy being approached. To each her own.
Hell no I’m Hispanic and old school the man is head of the household you better believe he will pay but I do believe in treating him as well sometimes is nice as well.
Well, germans have no game to begin with, everyone knows that. We suck at flirting compared to other Europeans. We don't have a dating culture, men are shy here and just don't know what to do. In Germany we go out, drink liquid courage and hook up. Berlin is even more extreme when it comes to dating compared to the rest of Germany. People here are less open and friendly, more reserved. Cologne for example is the polar opposite. You will get approached and make friends so easily.
@@veeran_official At the moment with the pandemic, it will be hard to meet new people and date, I have to say. For now online dating via OKCupid or Bumble will do. Stay away from Tinder. Only creeps are on Tinder in Berlin, for real. As soon as life goes back to somewhat normal it will be easier to meet people. But you will mostly meet them when you go out. Berlin has a rich club culture, it used to at least pre pandemic and it's easier to meet new people at clubs or open airs and festivals. And thru those new people you will meet in your social life, you will meet people to date. I have two tipps for you for meeting new people: Stabi, Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin, thats the library all students eventually hang out to study, is a great place to meet people during daytime, might sound odd, but it's 100% true! Also Hotel Bar in Kreuzberg, is a small and cosy bar, where you will meet people easily. A lot of expats and germans hang out there and are very flirty!
@@veeran_official Kinda, we are sow to warm up to people, that is true, but once we do, we will be in it for life. And as for the club scene, germans will approach you in the club and other expats even more. You will see. It will work! I hope you are going to have the best time in Berlin once it's all opened up again!
@Nidhi Roy Why would I or Germans in general be worried? Quite the odd question. Marriage hasn’t been a thing since Gen X, nobody cares about marriage around here, because it is not necessary. It’s literally an antiquated tradition. People still reproduce without marriage. Also, planet earth is overpopulated and surely doesn’t need more Germans.
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I don’t feel any less then a woman if he pay the bill. I can equalise giving also back emotionally, especially if he is successful. And I am proud of that.
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@@silvanelsire5971 So do girls not care about a guy's socioeconomic status? I find it hard to believe that women in Germany aren't looking for a financial provider. Are female doctors, lawyers etc willing to date plumbers, sales clerks etc?
@@yuckie3204 a couple turkish guys, there was one russian guy (he told me), a couple of black guys (don't remember their nationality but I remember they were expats from our conversations) There was only one german guy that I remember trying to pursue me in the very first month of me coming to Germany but he was a little too persistent and it rubbed me the wrong way so I blocked him.
@@graced.6711 Well I only get catcalled by turkish guys. They honk their horn whenever I walk by and they yell in their cars in German. It's annoying the amount of times I have been catcalled. For some reason the black men here don't like me lol. And a German guy has never approached or hit on me.
It's not specific to Berlin, it's everywhere in germany ... germans don't approach in everyday life. Why??? This flirting culture just doesn't exist. Women tend to be very defensive, not open, and even if they give you their number most likely (90%ish of the time, probably even higher than 90%) nothing is going to happen. It doesn't matter what happened beforehand how much time you had with her etc. Men also have to be careful with touch. For some women touching their shoulders seems to be the equivalent to touching their breasts. Also approaching is very frightning (even for men). Just imagine (if you are a girl) you see a good looking man and you approach him, you would probably be nervous, your legs might shake (especially if it is your first time). German girls also don't give (m)any clues. She might be interested in you but looking at her face you don't see any of it. Dating apps are common for people to meet???? No girl, it's maybe for you common but not for men. We men have a tough time on dating apps, check out the video of Alexander Grace tinder experiment and you get an idea of how difficult it is for most men.
You're saying the flirting culture doesn't exist because of the german women mentality right? But if you know the girl in front of you is not german (Asian/African...) then you know that you can try to approach her because she won't be offended right? So german men should take this into perspective.
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I met my last girlfriend in Guadalajara while shooting videos on the street. If i were being more deliberate, I would have tried Language classes, gym classes like Birk Yoga, community service, improv classes, etc
well i would also pay for the date, i mean i am the man and i invite you to dinner it's an *invitation* well the first date i would understand if everyone pays their stuff or if the woman doesn't accept that the guy wants to pay it. but well, if i ask let's go to the cinema or something like that then i invite the woman to spend time there with me and that she is carefree i'm a generous and thats NOT a topic 4 me .
im gonna share...im immigrating to berlin, and im so afraid of the culture shock im expecting, i fear becoming lonely i want to have friends hopefully.
Moving to a new country is always scary no matter what part of the world it is in. I wont pretend like there will be no culture shock for you, cos there will be. Especially depending on where you are coming from. But the most important thing is to keep an open mind and give it time. Wishing you all the best in your move 😊
@Anushan I love Sydney! One of my favorite cities in the world. The winter and fall in Berlin can be quiet grey and depressing I have to say. And coming from Sydney ... it'll take sometime adjusting to the lack of sun here in the winter and fall months. As for friends, Berlin has a huge expat community so you will surely make friends. all the best with your relocation 😊
Its so sad, I always considered myself a feminist because of course I want equal rights but I am not a man hater and I dont want to scare men away..its because everything is sexual harassment every little case even when its not and now they are scared and dont approach. As long as they back off when i say im not interested, and they ask respectfully, whats the problem? Feminism really became something else..distorted anger
Haha finally an honest video about dating Germans or dating in Germany haha I also dated some Germans, In Germany and in Mexico haha I can confirm about the guys from southern Germany haha but I like them the most hahah and the Latina stereotype haha there a lot of guys that asked me out because I’m Mexican and didn’t even asked my age or something else hahaha 🤣 and the guys are crazy about Latin cultures 😊 I haven been in Berlin yet
German Men like mostly beautiful spanish Girls not poor Ecuadorians or girls from other Bananarepublics maybe old Men!! but not succesful good looking young german Men
Germany belongs to the northern european maternal society where machismo is not regarded an wanted or even accepted behaviour. Perhaps it is the legacy of viking shield maidens that is still around. It is a sign of respect and equality to let a girl pay.
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Ladies please, no 50/50. It is not how get an engagement ring from a high value man. Relationships are not equal. ( women's equality primarily helps ALL of society) Its a give & take. Men are not women.
😂 Well I don’t want to be engaged. I’m a real Feminist and I agree. No splitting. I don’t know what this bs is about rejecting men cause they are using “male power” to talk to me etc. these are the ideas of very unintelligent men and women who don’t understand feminism and make up crazy nonsense. So ask me out and no splitting. I will be nice if not interested. If he is rude only then will I be rude.
@@ChiChi-qd3go I agree 100% except for being rude back. As men are apt to take " revenge ". No point in making enemies of any of them. I learned to face whatever rudeness with ladylike sweetness, until I was away from them. Men can lash out in many ways ( from ruining your reputation, to sabotaging future relationships, to stalking, physical v..lence , etc. Its simply part of the game & why they pay the bill. Also, if a guy is exceptionally dangerous, its best to let HIM end it with you. ( that can be the funniest! 😄) ( I once told a dangerous guy, who was insisting on a 2nd date that yes, we could go to that fancy restaurant in 2 weeks, because I had to go to my ex's lakehouse with him, since i had promised to help babysit his kids while they were out boating. Hahaaa! & He never bothered me again. ) Anyways- ladies need to always take safety first 😀🥂 cheers!
Just go talk to her if you want to. Don`t touch her while you are talking to her, that`s it. As long as you don`t shout after women on the street and don`t approach with somethin like "Hey babe what are you doing tonight?", but just start a normal conversation, there is no problem. (German woman here)
Young men are no more active in Germany, because they are afraid of being accused of anything. They don´t want to be offensive or even nice to unkown women, some even don´t want to work with women because of that. Part of an outcome of feminism in my opinion. I always see groups of girls and boys going out seperated. And I know many young guys which don´t want a girlfriend, because they are to demanding. Young woman behave like princesses, everyone thinks she is sooo special and she deserves to be treated as such, it is horrible. I know football teams where not one is having a girlfriend. Young women of today in Germany screw it up and then accuse the men that it´s their fault, because it couldn´t be their own fault, because they are so fantastic.
Yes but there's many nationalities in Germany, the easiest thing to do is to be in a r.s with a foreigner which is not that hard considering the amount of foreigners in the country.
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Disrespectful ?! You know what is direspectful, when I spend 2 hours for hair removal, nails, hairbrushing, make up before a date (because a man expect a pretty woman, wich is normal), and then I am still expected to pay.
@@sweettagada22 nope. You are not expected to put on makeup. I've had quite some dates (mostly through internetapps). And not a single woman did anything. Of COURSE you are expected to pay half. You are not a child anymore, are you? An adult pays for himself
@@fischersfritz468 what a cultural choc (I’m French). I dress well and put on make up for dates. And the kind of men I date they expect such an elegant woman. Paying for someone doesn’t mean she can’t do it or that she’s a child. It’s just showing respect, showing you are interested in her, that you can treat her right after. Also I would add women earn less money than men and that they have do spend more money per month (periods, bras, pills, clothes, haircut, hair removal, nails) so that is for the rational aspects. The irrational aspect is just about seduction, you need to show you are a real man
@@sweettagada22 no. A woman needs to show me, that she is a real, independant woman. Not a golddigger. Not offering to pay half would be very disrespectful from her. Nails, hair, makeup, clothes... not needed. Ok, better: some clean clothes are enough. Everything else is unnecessary. She can do it if she wants, but no one really cares. Btw: Depending on where you live, woman don't earn less anymore. Ah yes: I'm swiss. Half french half swiss, but i grew up in the german speaking part of Switzerland
OMG. What are you talking about? (I'm German by the way). Why is only the one girl talking and talking and talking and talking? It's also very weird to listen to: Germans think like this, Germans think like that, coming from a girl from Ecuador. I was just shaking my head listening and really wished the other girl had said something as well.
OMG what the hell are you talking about!! When I first read your comment, I thought it's going somewhere interesting. But you're complaining about the video format!!! Seriously!!!
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I am a German guy and I kind of like traditional gender roles (only to a certain extent of course, not like "woman barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen" level). So, the paying question on a first date is actually a good indicator. If the girl seriously refuses to let me pay, it is clear that we have a different mindset as to gender roles and that we should better not start a serious relationship.
I 100% agree. As an American, I have been "conditioned" towards traditional gender roles more than most Western European women have been. There's a long history behind these differences, mostly dating back to the World Wars. American men came back from the world wars - and well, European men did not. When American men returned, it was strongly enforced that women were to return back to the home and the children. European women were needed in the workforce, at least for awhile. American soldiers, married and single, were often "plagued by beautiful foreign women" in all of our various foreign affairs - and the consequence was men brought venereal diseases home to their wives. The army tried to combat this problem by soliciting the wives' "help" - by saying "you had better stay attractive enough or else your husband will be tempted by these beautiful foreign women and bring home venereal diseases. It is your duty to America to stay beautiful and attractive so that your man will stay faithful to you when he is overseas."
Although these are obviously no longer conscious thoughts of American girls today, this was the mentality that has permeated our culture over the last 100 years.
I understand that some people will say that it's wrong to uphold these traditional gender roles. But to me, part of equality is having the CHOICE and the KNOWLEDGE and the UNDERSTANDING to make the decision for myself that I simply prefer traditional gender roles.
Interesting.
I gave up dating in Berlin, because I found people cheap. That doesn’t mean I’m expecting or want someone to pay stuff. Just means I found nice when people wants to treat you.
@@MegaVieira1990 Berlin is different. It is very woke and LGBQT and feminist, etc. Not many traditional men in Berlin. I mean the rich/middle class parts of Berlin - there are obviously parts with many Muslims, etc. that are very macho (which is also not good).
You should try cities like Munich or Hamburg.
@@justlivinglife2532 You can not know it. I also do not know if a woman wants to pay for herself. You must just try it. Just pretend that you are willing to pay for yourself (e.g. put your wallet on the table) and if the man wants to pay for you, he will make it clear.
@@dagda3000 Yes, I’m aware of it and I appreciate it. But that shouldn’t mean cheap people. Kindness and generosity could live together. Just making sure I don’t mind to also pay for my dates or not have any problem in split sometimes. But found it a bit annoying that almost everyone is just counting cents and not willing to treat you and finding it pleasant .
Yes I agree. Those cities might be different. I lived one year in Hamburg but was busy to date enough :p
I pay for my own stuff nowadays, cause I already met guys who where really disappointed that paying for my drinks during the night didn't mean for us to have sex. Also I hear alot of women talking passionatly about being treated as an equal, but when it comes to paying they expect the man to pay for dinner, buy expensive gifts,... The thought of somebody "buying" me like an object disgusts me. On the other hand if he wants to genuinly pay for it if he likes you and isn't expecting any sexual response in return it is ok for me. It is easy to spot the difference though, you do you.
Thanks for watching.😊 Like you said it's easy to spot the difference between those who genuinely wanna pay and those who have expectations. In the end every woman will do what she is comfortable with.
as a man, i think it depends how the date develops when it comes to the bill-question, i have no problem when a woman wants to pay her pwn part. But when i invited her, i would pay because of the inventation and it dosent matter if ir is a date our just friend. its just a part of giving and taking, one timw i pay next time the other pay.
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My German husband says if you buy for the woman then she might feel obligated to you, best to to treat like an acquaintance which a date is which means paying for yourself in Germany. Dating is very casual and informal here, it’s basically hanging out to see if you like each other as friends or more
Exactly! You described it pretty accurately.
It would have been nice to hear also the views/perspectives from a black girl. Latinas and black girls are considered exotic here so having more of a discussion instead of a interview format would also be cool. Love the Video thou🙂👍🏽
I think how you start is how you finish. If you start paying in the beginning you set the expectation that it will be a 50/50 relationship...
Do you thinks your granny's book "How to use man! Tips and tricks." is working in Germany?
@@Lootsizimanition wtf 🥴
@@MA-zg2pz you drunk. Go to toilet 🙈
@@Lootsizimanition 🥴 you’re cringey af.
@@Lootsizimanition you have some issues comrade
Berlin is very different from the rest of Germany. Please keep that in mind!
Is it really ? 🤔
Omg i am already Fascinated by his woman such a knowledge she has. I live and work in Berlin for quite few months now but haven’t came across such a fantastic personality.
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2:31 spot on. Granted, there are a lot of creeps, and typically, if a guy is handsome he can get away with it, but a lot of other guys feel like they are called a creep because of the notion that is even very hip in movies etc of woman being as good and powerful as men if not better
Call me old fashioned, but if a man asked me out, I expect him to pay for our first meal.
Obviously I will still take out my card, and if he doesn’t offer to pay for the whole bill, I will pay my part.
That way, I leave with a clean conscience and when I cut him off later, I feel no guilt.
That’s just me tho.
Dating is difficult in big cities because of the pressure of work. In Dubai, it's very difficult getting a decent partner, 90% are either wants an open relationship or a one night stand. Great content 👍
So this open relationship phenomenon is more widely practised that i thought. Well to each his own. As long as the 2 parties are equally aware and informed and are in agreement.
Hi guys am visiting Berlin this weekend
As a guy in Germany you HAVE to offer to pay the whole bill at the end of a date with dinner, for example.
You have to offer it...and then the women quickly say to the waiter: No, split the bill, please.
So you have to offer it and then the women (mostly) say quickly: No split the bill.
That is like a ritual and it happens nearly every time. At least to me.
It is very rare that the women are accepting it that the man is paying everything.
But again: As a man you have to offer it and you have to tell the waiter, that you are paying.
I dated many women in the past and there were only a few times, where I really had to pay everything. In fact I remember only one time paying everything and she came from an Arabic background.
All other women were "bio"-Germans and they want to demonstrate their independence and the fact, that one can't "buy" them with a dinner.
I respect that...and I never felt bad about it. Quite the opposite, because it isn't meant as a rejection (at least most of the time) and I save the money. :-)
So was it a turn off that the Arab girl let you pay? or it didn't bother you?
@@miasanarsenal9950
Only the women really care about that subject. It is like a fetish for them for many different reasons. No matter if they are traditional, regular or "Girl-Power"-women.
I never cared. I give a damn about the fact that I have to pay or not to pay. I really don't care. Whatever makes the girls happy... 😄🙄
It only was very unusual, that the Arab girl didn't "played the German game" and therefore I remember it.
@@megatwingo She probably wanted to be honest about her way of thinking and not try to be someone else.
@@miasanarsenal9950
Maybe. We will never know, what she really thought.
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What happen to German man? I'm German, was raised by my German mother. I never had an experiment like she is talking about. I lived in Germany for 24 years. Not once did I have to pay half of my dinner or the next drink. If a man invites me to dinner, then he pays for it. If I would invite a man, then I would pay for it. But that never happen to me. In my experience, German man are hard to talk to. That's why I married an American. They are fun to be with and always paid for everything. It never occurred to them to ask a women to pay half. If that was the case, I would not go out with him again. He asked me, not the other way around. He bought me 24 roses on a date. But then my German upbringing kicked in. I asked him why he got me flowers. Told him the will be dead in a few days. From then on he bought me other things. One or twice he got me a watch. After that a friendship ring, etc. It went all the way up to a wedding ring. I had a very good marriage with him. But then he got very ill and died. I still miss him 14 years later and I stayed true to him. I will till my time comes. I loved him so much and still do.
He was a lucky man. I grew up in the southeast US and it never occurred to me that a woman I asked out should pay. Even if she asked me simply by saying yes in my mind I would still pay. The girls are a product of a broken narrative. Sad. Have a good day
Listen sister, this the most beautiful thing ive read all day. I'm glad you found something so special, true love by the looks of it. And you refuse to share that intimacy with anyone else? Respect, respect 200%.
@@awesomebearsWhy do you respect that she chooses not to date other men? Would you disrespect her if she didn't?
When a woman dies, men are back on the horse of dating as soon as possible. Their "grieving" consists of finding another woman to look after them.
Interesting........
@@toomuchinformation dawg you making my good compliment and positive energy and turning it into an argument. Do something better.
On a side note. I would respect any man or woman that does the same as this person did. You are literally generalising men and women. You forget, everyone is different.
As an American woman, I've had so many conversations about this topic of paying for the first date with Germans. Although it is changing to some degree, for the most part, in America, it is widely expected that the man pays for the first date. It is considered extremely offensive and rude to suggest that the woman pay half.
Now, I've heard from numerous Germans about this, who find this abhorrent. They find this behavior from American women selfish, greedy, and gold-digging. But really, I think it comes down to a wide difference in cultural standards.
An American woman is often expected to put a major investment (both in time and money) into a first date. Depending on the date, she could easily spend $200 on new makeup and clothes and over 4 hours getting ready for the date. I know that probably sounds excessive (and perhaps it is), but that is also the cultural expectation held by a lot of Americans.
Although this does occur in Germany, this seems to be rare. It seems to be the norm that women simply wear something they already own, use makeup they already own (if they wear makeup at all), take a quick shower, wear their hair naturally, and go out with a very natural look. If German men and German women are investing an equal amount of time and money into the pre-date process, then it's fair to pay 50/50. But if there's an expectation set that one person is supposed to look in some way that costs an excessive amount of time and money, then it's fair for the other member to pay for the cost of the date.
In America, it's very common for men to show up to the date in gym shorts and a dirty t-shirt, having not showered after the gym, messy hair, while simultaneously expecting the woman to have manicured nails, a pedicure with no chips, highlights in her hair, makeup that is classy but not trashy, a nice outfit that shows off her goods without looking slutty, classy accessories. In these situations, why should the woman also pay half?
That is actually true. Obviously, a german doesn’t force a woman to do all that chic stuff, but let’s be honest, none of them would say no to a good looking lady and everyone would definitely pick her over a mediocre one. Women spend so much time and money for their looks, whereas men don’t. So if we’re talking about equal contribution, it would be fair for them to take care of that cup of coffee.
I'm American and I disagree; a woman from a first-world country should at least offer to pay. In fact I have dated many German and Austrian men and I have always offered/tried to pay but they really appreciate the offer. It's not unreasonable for a guy to expect us to split the bill because we are just getting to know one another. Also, I am from Southern California where there is A LOT of competition. The average girl going to the gym has her hair done, make up and nice clothes. Maybe in Ohio or Kentucky it be a big deal to dress up but the standard of what you wear when seeing a guy is high. Obviously, it's easier to date pretty anywhere else on the planet away from LA but you girls in these other states are really spoiled.
@@heatherfeather9951 Im sorry but calling women spoiled for not wanting to pay half is dumb. I dont call you desperate for wanting to pay half. It is to each their own really. At the end of the day some women want to be courted and taken care off and would rather not pay. Other women want to have a 50/50 relationship (which does not exist in my opinion) and pay the other half. Both are fine and each women is allowed to choose what they want without being shamed. I have never been on a date where I paid half. How are you going to ask me out and then let me pay half? Thats crazy to me😂 I even sometimes pay for my friends when I ask them out to eat so with me personally that could not fly. But again, to each their own.
@@msgirly6827 Anyone can demand whatever they want/expect from a man but that doesn't mean they will get it. Similarly, just proclaiming oneself to be a "queen" or a "goddess" doesn't make it so. If there are guys who want to spoil you as you feel entitled to be spoiled then so be it. I believe that equal privilege means equal responsibility. I don't see paying my own way as a problem because I expect to be treated as an equal, and most Western European men have no problem with this. Also, if you're not in the top ten percent of looks wise (I'm not claiming to be myself) you really can't be that demanding. Women who are not trying to look feminine cannot expect to be accorded traditional female benefits (ie having a man treat them). You don't have a profile picture or any videos for which to show your feminine charms.
@@heatherfeather9951 I am confused as to what the intention of the last part of your comment means. Care to explain? I am little confused because indeed I dont have a profile picture and videos but what does that have to do with anything?
This channel is soo educative
it depends how beautiful and smart u are, if ure avarage, they are not interested, u are not goona get good feedback in dating scene
I will never pay for a first date if we are in a relationship yes such I will treat my man for a nice dinner or get him gifts 😁
😄😄 😄 I totally agree but everyone has different approaches i guess.
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I recently moved to Munich (from London) and found that living 12 years in London I got approached maybe 5 times during that whole time. In Germany it's just so much easier to strike up a conversation as the pressure is just not as high. In London if a guy would approach he would be so obvious about it with explicit words. While in Germany they would just have a convo, very easy going, unless they would just want to have some fun then they would be more forward.
Hallo I am in regensburg near by munich can i know about you?
You must be pretty. In London, I never got approached.
I am not paying for shiiiit on the first date. Lol
😂🤣😂 I kuku trust you.
That's the way it use to be...in every country...until women changed it!
😂
So glad I’m gay….
She is speaks genuinely .I like how she is.Try and interview her on different topics often.
Okay I’ve subscribed and liked even before finishing the video . Now give me the tea because Germany is on my list of European countries to move to ! Lol 😘
😄😄😄 Thanks for subscribing. It looks like I will have to do a follow up video for this topic 😄
the whole dating thing your talking about sounds so far from "the bubble" that i live in.😅 im from berlin (i´ve never used dating apps in my life) and whats strange is that i´ve met women that were like "wow your from berlin, thats so cool! your the first person from berlin that ive met." and for me thats kinda strange too. because im an open person and i used too meet a lot of "foreigners" before covid. so how come im the the first berliner u meet when u actually living in berlin??
for me "dates" arent supposed to be something super special (like dressing up and going to a fancy restaurant). the dates i most enjoyed most were the ones when i took the girl to paint graffitti with me or to a rooftop watching over the city having a beer or climbing over a fence and watching the trains beneath us while enjoying the sunset and having a nice conversation. nothing fancy and way more of a special moment than having dinner in some restaurant. at least thats my opinion
Wow..that's so simple and natural unlike a plastic date..well explained
Love your comment :)
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Wow. Love that!
Spill the tea 🫖 honey 😆😆😆😆 I’m planning on moving that way to finish my studies.
She’s so beautiful, intelligent and outspoken 💯❤️
You have dated German guys?
I wonder how would it be for me, cause I'm black AND latina 😂
😂😂😂 I would like to hear your dating stories. You must have really special encounters 😂
I was thinking the exact same thing 🤣🤣🤣
Honestly, I got approached all the time even on the street in Berlin , its super common not to mention in a bar and I have heard this from other women as well😅
Why would you pay for him? You can just pay for your own stuff 😅 and just because he chose to pay for you doesn’t mean you have to pay next time coz he chose to do so
That's totally true. Men are afraid to talk to women because they fear to face a feminist or something like that, specially men born after 2000.
Mmmmhmm
Personally, I fear of bothering a person or getting misunderstood due to language etc. Also some women try to act like everyone is a harasser which is very bad.
@@cems7258get some balls man
@@JeBusInYoutbe Bro I do have balls that is not a fear of rejection. Fear of misnaming.
@@cems7258 fear is fear same thing. A nd if the problem is the Germans date other women . This people don’t deserve much attention.
I liked the video! Estefania says real intelligent, well-thought things. And you can tell she really tries to understand the Berliners instead of holding on to the way they date in Ecuador. One thing tho, its 2020, and like Estefania said, Berlin is keen in womanpower. So about the dating apps, she's using them because men don't ask her out. Is it their responsibility to initiate cause they are men? If she sees a guy whom she thinks is cute, why doesn't she ask him out?
In the video, it seems like it doesn't even cross her mind, she could actually do that.
I'm glad you liked the video. 😊 As for approaching guys, I believe Estefania would if she did find the guy interesting. However, some women just enjoy being approached. To each her own.
@@pwndering_my_orb Mann, was laberst du da?!
The same guys on Bumble are on Tinder I deleted them both.
did you find anything else you would recommend?
Hell no I’m Hispanic and old school the man is head of the household you better believe he will pay but I do believe in treating him as well sometimes is nice as well.
Welcome madmoselle Kat❣️♥️♥️
Yea that's not how life in Germany works, luckily
Don't date Germans. German guys want a partner not a follower. And German women love it that way.
Well, germans have no game to begin with, everyone knows that. We suck at flirting compared to other Europeans. We don't have a dating culture, men are shy here and just don't know what to do. In Germany we go out, drink liquid courage and hook up. Berlin is even more extreme when it comes to dating compared to the rest of Germany. People here are less open and friendly, more reserved. Cologne for example is the polar opposite. You will get approached and make friends so easily.
@@veeran_official At the moment with the pandemic, it will be hard to meet new people and date, I have to say. For now online dating via OKCupid or Bumble will do. Stay away from Tinder. Only creeps are on Tinder in Berlin, for real. As soon as life goes back to somewhat normal it will be easier to meet people. But you will mostly meet them when you go out. Berlin has a rich club culture, it used to at least pre pandemic and it's easier to meet new people at clubs or open airs and festivals. And thru those new people you will meet in your social life, you will meet people to date. I have two tipps for you for meeting new people: Stabi, Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin, thats the library all students eventually hang out to study, is a great place to meet people during daytime, might sound odd, but it's 100% true! Also Hotel Bar in Kreuzberg, is a small and cosy bar, where you will meet people easily. A lot of expats and germans hang out there and are very flirty!
@@veeran_official Kinda, we are sow to warm up to people, that is true, but once we do, we will be in it for life. And as for the club scene, germans will approach you in the club and other expats even more. You will see. It will work! I hope you are going to have the best time in Berlin once it's all opened up again!
@Nidhi Roy Why would I or Germans in general be worried? Quite the odd question. Marriage hasn’t been a thing since Gen X, nobody cares about marriage around here, because it is not necessary. It’s literally an antiquated tradition. People still reproduce without marriage. Also, planet earth is overpopulated and surely doesn’t need more Germans.
@Nidhi Roy Who cares. You don’t have a clue and sound nationalistic.
I've had tinder gold for months and get like 1 or 2 likes a month and their all bots.... Fml 🤦🏼♀️ here’s my tlegram @Annapeggy any aged responsible man here wanna talk?
I don’t feel any less then a woman if he pay the bill. I can equalise giving also back emotionally, especially if he is successful. And I am proud of that.
What's that Latina stereotype about?? Never heard German men have a thing for Hispanic women
Ohh.. some of them do… they want to be called “papi” jajaja
Me either
@@melissacarvajal142 hahaha
Doesn't everyone has a fetish or type of some kind?
in every corner of the world are fetishs why would you think they dont?
What about courting a woman? Old Fashioned values? Are they not appreciated?
Not too much, it is about equality. We only go halfway.
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@@silvanelsire5971 So do girls not care about a guy's socioeconomic status? I find it hard to believe that women in Germany aren't looking for a financial provider. Are female doctors, lawyers etc willing to date plumbers, sales clerks etc?
@@4evahodlingdoge226 the answer is yes
Loved this video!! I laughed a lot 😂😂 the guy I’m talking to is from Bavaria and I’m a Latina and we think almost the same I hope this can work
Thanks for watching. I wish you goodluck with your Bavarian boo 😊
All the times I've been approached by guys just out and about, it was never a German guy.
Like what foreigners approach you here? I never get approached in Berlin, I only get catcalled.
@@yuckie3204 a couple turkish guys, there was one russian guy (he told me), a couple of black guys (don't remember their nationality but I remember they were expats from our conversations)
There was only one german guy that I remember trying to pursue me in the very first month of me coming to Germany but he was a little too persistent and it rubbed me the wrong way so I blocked him.
@@graced.6711 Well I only get catcalled by turkish guys. They honk their horn whenever I walk by and they yell in their cars in German. It's annoying the amount of times I have been catcalled. For some reason the black men here don't like me lol. And a German guy has never approached or hit on me.
It's not specific to Berlin, it's everywhere in germany ... germans don't approach in everyday life.
Why??? This flirting culture just doesn't exist. Women tend to be very defensive, not open, and even if they give you their number most likely (90%ish of the time, probably even higher than 90%) nothing is going to happen.
It doesn't matter what happened beforehand how much time you had with her etc.
Men also have to be careful with touch. For some women touching their shoulders seems to be the equivalent to touching their breasts.
Also approaching is very frightning (even for men).
Just imagine (if you are a girl) you see a good looking man and you approach him, you would probably be nervous, your legs might shake (especially if it is your first time).
German girls also don't give (m)any clues. She might be interested in you but looking at her face you don't see any of it.
Dating apps are common for people to meet???? No girl, it's maybe for you common but not for men.
We men have a tough time on dating apps, check out the video of Alexander Grace tinder experiment and you get an idea of how difficult it is for most men.
You're saying the flirting culture doesn't exist because of the german women mentality right? But if you know the girl in front of you is not german (Asian/African...) then you know that you can try to approach her because she won't be offended right? So german men should take this into perspective.
Why would you even touch a stranger?
@@miasanarsenal9950 genau!
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Super Cool 👌....... I love this content ❤️ well done girl
Thanks for watching 🙂
I met my last girlfriend in Guadalajara while shooting videos on the street.
If i were being more deliberate, I would have tried Language classes, gym classes like Birk Yoga, community service, improv classes, etc
... and what does that have to do with this video?
well i would also pay for the date, i mean i am the man and i invite you to dinner it's an *invitation* well the first date i would understand if everyone pays their stuff or if the woman doesn't accept that the guy wants to pay it. but well, if i ask let's go to the cinema or something like that then i invite the woman to spend time there with me and that she is carefree i'm a generous and thats NOT a topic 4 me .
I'm intereseted your content video
Love your vedio and that for real
im gonna share...im immigrating to berlin, and im so afraid of the culture shock im expecting, i fear becoming lonely i want to have friends hopefully.
Me too! Moving there from Sydney so scared of the weather change and no friends !
Moving to a new country is always scary no matter what part of the world it is in. I wont pretend like there will be no culture shock for you, cos there will be. Especially depending on where you are coming from. But the most important thing is to keep an open mind and give it time. Wishing you all the best in your move 😊
@Anushan I love Sydney! One of my favorite cities in the world. The winter and fall in Berlin can be quiet grey and depressing I have to say. And coming from Sydney ... it'll take sometime adjusting to the lack of sun here in the winter and fall months. As for friends, Berlin has a huge expat community so you will surely make friends. all the best with your relocation 😊
@@Waleochronicles Thank You! I look forward to the adventure :)
@@ashanraful ❤️❤️
Wale, lol, I jumped back too lol
Its so sad, I always considered myself a feminist because of course I want equal rights but I am not a man hater and I dont want to scare men away..its because everything is sexual harassment every little case even when its not and now they are scared and dont approach. As long as they back off when i say im not interested, and they ask respectfully, whats the problem? Feminism really became something else..distorted anger
What does she say at 3:20? Did she say it is common to take 'stuff' in the club?
yeah I totally think she's meant drugs
In a lot of clubs in Berlin that`s pretty common, yes.
Haha finally an honest video about dating Germans or dating in Germany haha I also dated some Germans, In Germany and in Mexico haha I can confirm about the guys from southern Germany haha but I like them the most hahah and the Latina stereotype haha there a lot of guys that asked me out because I’m Mexican and didn’t even asked my age or something else hahaha 🤣 and the guys are crazy about Latin cultures 😊 I haven been in Berlin yet
They like Latinas maybe for months to have fun in Bed but if they know your real mentality they don't want you..maybe old men
@@ibizamaria and what kind of mentality is that exactly?
German Men like mostly beautiful spanish Girls not poor Ecuadorians or girls from other Bananarepublics maybe old Men!! but not succesful good looking young german Men
@@N3dita they hate Golddigger
Why you haharing
Germany belongs to the northern european maternal society where machismo is not regarded an wanted or even accepted behaviour. Perhaps it is the legacy of viking shield maidens that is still around. It is a sign of respect and equality to let a girl pay.
Germany doesn't have anything to do with Vikings or Shieldmaidens. The Vikings lives in Scandinavia/Northern Eruope, Germany is Western Europe.
@@pwndering_my_orb I am sure you are american. In Germany men do how their women command. It has always been so.
@@JakobFischer60 What you are talking about? The gender roles in Germany are still way more traditional than in many other western countries.
@@dagda3000 So it is more traditional that the girl pays for herself?
@@JakobFischer60 No, it is more traditional if the guy pays.
there are more women in Berlin than men, the women all have jobs and are very emancipated. the women often approach a man.
Hi. I think that Matched you haha I from Galápagos Islands. 😂
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1:37 Not only in Berlin, its unfortunately everywhere in Germany, you mostly getting mean or no reaction :C
Met on dating online, he 46years old,divorced. Hope find single man. Not pervert man
Hallo
How to meet a serious and responsible woman in Germany for Marroage .....
I love German guys❤️
Try one and see how much u will love them 😂😂
Ladies please, no 50/50. It is not how get an engagement ring from a high value man. Relationships are not equal. ( women's equality primarily helps ALL of society) Its a give & take. Men are not women.
😂 Well I don’t want to be engaged. I’m a real Feminist and I agree. No splitting. I don’t know what this bs is about rejecting men cause they are using “male power” to talk to me etc. these are the ideas of very unintelligent men and women who don’t understand feminism and make up crazy nonsense. So ask me out and no splitting. I will be nice if not interested. If he is rude only then will I be rude.
@@ChiChi-qd3go I agree 100% except for being rude back. As men are apt to take " revenge ". No point in making enemies of any of them. I learned to face whatever rudeness with ladylike sweetness, until I was away from them. Men can lash out in many ways ( from ruining your reputation, to sabotaging future relationships, to stalking, physical v..lence , etc.
Its simply part of the game & why they pay the bill. Also, if a guy is exceptionally dangerous, its best to let HIM end it with you.
( that can be the funniest! 😄)
( I once told a dangerous guy, who was insisting on a 2nd date that yes, we could go to that fancy restaurant in 2 weeks, because I had to go to my ex's lakehouse with him, since i had promised to help babysit his kids while they were out boating. Hahaaa! & He never bothered me again. )
Anyways- ladies need to always take safety first 😀🥂 cheers!
15th century BS, im looking for a partner, not a provider.
You shouldn't date Germans then. Your attitude is seen as a huge red flag here.
German are so stingy and economic in everything. Dont enjoy life cause they count every single €. U never see that before.
She’s so beautiful 😍
You leave Berlin?
Thanks for deleting my comment. I guess they'll never know what I wrote. Thanks
Wait. Do men pay in Nigeria? I didn't get the answer to that.
Yes men pay in Nigeria
Yes men pay
All over in africa they paid
I think better to meet in a public park…or try to date on your fasting day 😎if paying bills is a issue for someone 😂 LOL.
I LOVE YOU
Same here. I am in Berlin for 7 months but I fear to approach any woman here.
Good LOL
@@ChiChi-qd3go what good in it Madam ji?
@@mohammedsufi304 don't spread your pedo worshipping religion
@@ChiChi-qd3go if men cant approach women anymore then also women arent allowed too, but thats complete bs
Just go talk to her if you want to. Don`t touch her while you are talking to her, that`s it. As long as you don`t shout after women on the street and don`t approach with somethin like "Hey babe what are you doing tonight?", but just start a normal conversation, there is no problem. (German woman here)
Walle a beaut.
Get for me Germany man
Are African women interested in dating European guys?
@@Star50046yes
@@amalsuzanne7151 you have dated a few?
Did you get one
I only wanted to say german lie and broke my heart
Its not true
Really.
We are so much, but dont lie. Only because your man did this says nothing to the rest.
For men dating is dead everywhere... for women its a big supermarket of endless options. Very unfair.
Young men are no more active in Germany, because they are afraid of being accused of anything.
They don´t want to be offensive or even nice to unkown women, some even don´t want to work with women because of that.
Part of an outcome of feminism in my opinion.
I always see groups of girls and boys going out seperated.
And I know many young guys which don´t want a girlfriend, because they are to demanding.
Young woman behave like princesses, everyone thinks she is sooo special and she deserves to be treated as such, it is horrible.
I know football teams where not one is having a girlfriend.
Young women of today in Germany screw it up and then accuse the men that it´s their fault, because it couldn´t be their own fault, because they are so fantastic.
Yes but there's many nationalities in Germany, the easiest thing to do is to be in a r.s with a foreigner which is not that hard considering the amount of foreigners in the country.
Was laberst du? Sei lieber froh, dass der Sexismus hier abnimmt und Frauen die gleiche Behandlung erfahren wie Männer
You seem scared of women? 🤔
@@yamatonadeshiko567 Do you think you are special?
ahhhh oke
Ahhhhhhhhh
AHHHHHHHHH
This lady is sweet.
As a man I would never pay everything at a first date. That would be disrespectful.
I've had tinder gold for months and get like 1 or 2 likes a month and their all bots.... Fml 🤦🏼♀️ here’s my tlegram @Annapeggy any aged responsible man here wanna talk?
Disrespectful ?! You know what is direspectful, when I spend 2 hours for hair removal, nails, hairbrushing, make up before a date (because a man expect a pretty woman, wich is normal), and then I am still expected to pay.
@@sweettagada22 nope. You are not expected to put on makeup. I've had quite some dates (mostly through internetapps). And not a single woman did anything.
Of COURSE you are expected to pay half. You are not a child anymore, are you? An adult pays for himself
@@fischersfritz468 what a cultural choc (I’m French). I dress well and put on make up for dates. And the kind of men I date they expect such an elegant woman.
Paying for someone doesn’t mean she can’t do it or that she’s a child. It’s just showing respect, showing you are interested in her, that you can treat her right after. Also I would add women earn less money than men and that they have do spend more money per month (periods, bras, pills, clothes, haircut, hair removal, nails) so that is for the rational aspects. The irrational aspect is just about seduction, you need to show you are a real man
@@sweettagada22 no. A woman needs to show me, that she is a real, independant woman. Not a golddigger. Not offering to pay half would be very disrespectful from her.
Nails, hair, makeup, clothes... not needed. Ok, better: some clean clothes are enough. Everything else is unnecessary. She can do it if she wants, but no one really cares.
Btw: Depending on where you live, woman don't earn less anymore.
Ah yes: I'm swiss. Half french half swiss, but i grew up in the german speaking part of Switzerland
Man in indonesia good.
OMG. What are you talking about? (I'm German by the way). Why is only the one girl talking and talking and talking and talking? It's also very weird to listen to: Germans think like this, Germans think like that, coming from a girl from Ecuador. I was just shaking my head listening and really wished the other girl had said something as well.
You do realize this was the format of the video, the black girl is presenting the topic by discussing this from the viewpoint of the guest.
OMG what the hell are you talking about!! When I first read your comment, I thought it's going somewhere interesting. But you're complaining about the video format!!! Seriously!!!
They're right about everything. All things i hear from other foreigners that date Germans
You have to learn German at first.
No they don't if they don't want to 😂
@@pavlidou2901 As na mathoun ellinika tote😁
@@Lootsizimanition they don't live in Greece and if they don't want to learn a language they don't have to learnt it
Hey I looking for an elder man 55 and above
You are looking for money, nothing more....
How can a great guy in the USA meet a great German woman?
get on over there
i want a German Girlfriend for serious relation
Mit Puepsen geht alles besser!! Pfui!!🤩🤮👻
Hi you are very sweet. Can I meet you. I am an Engineer by profession. I like the way you Talk.
Any updates? It's been a year dude!
draußen sein und leute sehen! learn german too! boring video!
Welcome miss mon ❣️
the video wasn't for you
They don't have to learn German if they don't want loooool