To all the people who are considering moving to Germany because they saw this video, please consider the following that was not discussed in the video, the difference in taxes, if you earn 100,000USD in Germany you will pay around 38% tax, your Net salary would be around $ 62,000, while in Switzerland for every $ 100,000 you will pay around 15% m and you will retain $ 83,000 of the net salary. There is no capital gains tax in Switzerland, while in Germany it charges 25%. (if you like to invest in the stock market) So this will depend on your lifestyle and profession.
Money is not everything Enrik. You also should be happy living where you are. I earned so much more in Switzerland but was very unhappy there. Now I am in Berlin and get more for my money and also like the culture better.
You are saying the half truth dude. From this you need to deduct the cost of health insurance. Moreover the cost of living in CH is much higher than in DE, it can reach up to 2 times. Also if you need to send your kids to the kindergarten you need to pay around 1.500CHF+ dependening on the canton. So CH can easily become a financial nightmare...
It depends on your stage of life too. Now that I have 2 school aged children and don’t go clubbing anymore, safe green and clean Switzerland is perfect. Even small kids walk to school by themselves and so much beautiful outdoor activities so close. Ski school is 20 min away, clean lake you can swim or sail, pedestrian friendly town...
You can also ski and do many amazing things outdoors in Germany or France. You people make Switzerland out to be something which is far from reality. It's a very dull country just like the people.
I am from Spain and my kids also walk to school by themselves in Germany. We used to live in Switzerland and there is not really a difference to what you described. We live in Bavaria now and tend to visit Austria more often than Switzerland.
@@yogamazing5941 Yeah they make it seem like children walking to school is something that's exclusive to CH. To my knowledge, most European children walk to school on their own.
Switzerland: + High Salary + Low taxes + Very scenic + Highly organized, disciplined + Equality + Public transport - Costly - Very tough for non-EU (Getting/ changing job, PR) - Lack of freedom (Changing job, canton, yearly permit renewal) - Language tougher but a must - Making friends is tougher, no social life
here in switzerland you will have a lot of money.. this is not expensive to live for swiss people because we have more money then germany in the end of the month.. As a Busdriver you have 7600.- in the end of the month.. this is more then 7200 Euro.. This is in every job here.. this is why we have expensive things here. Because we have the money. in germany the things are cheep, but they have not a lot of money in the end of the month like in switzerland
Money is not worth the boredom in Switzerland. Too expensive to be that boring. It is easier to make friends in Germany to be honest, friendships and family are always first. Swiss people have money but are super depressed. Not impolite, but not really friendly country.
@@jenmeier4366 Im grow up here in switzerland and i'm very open and frindly.. But you right, not a lot of people here in my country are like me.. Sometimes i miss that... And i don't know why so many peoples are so closet.. I'm to open for that.. i'm happy my family are all swiss people but they are all extremly frindly and open
I do not agree. I worked in Switzerland and in Germany in IT. In Germany you earn around 8000 as an IT specialist, and I only pay 700 Euros rent for a three bedroom apartment. I earned nearly the same in Switzerland but paid around 3000 Swiss Francs per month so right now I have so much more money left. I know a nurse in Switzerland who only earns 6000 Swiss Francs and that is not much when you have children and rent to pay. I prefer the German lifestyle.
@@palomajessy1760 i'm moving to Zurich in a near future and i'm very excited about that but one of the considering things is that Swiss are conservative people.. my own people are very conservative too especially toward expats and i get that but i was really looking forward to take advantage of this opportunity and make new friends and as you may know moving to Switzerland is very challenging which isn't bugging me as much as the first subject
I fully agree with you, and not to mention the quietness, the cleanliness, the high culture, the views of the mountains, greenness, job opportunities, and the power of the passport comparing to Germany.
You can’t compare Germany and Switzerland with regard to the cost of products, Germany has 10 times the population of Switzerland, they have a bigger market to sell to. Also i can buy shampoo in Switzerland for Sfr. 2.50 (Schwarzkopf) at Otto’s. There are some shampoos which cost more, it depends on what brand you want. No-one forces you to have a drink in a restaurant, you can buy a drink in a supermarket and drink it in the park. Berlin has about 4 to 5 million people, no city in Switzerland is that big, so it’s a bit dopey to compare such a large city to places in a smaller country. Zurich and Geneva are the two most expensive cities in Switzerland, the other towns in Switzerland are cheaper to live in. We have a very high standard of living in Switzerland that’s why things are dearer. We have very good services etc but we pay for them. I’m Swiss and i love my country, i’ve lived in Australia and travelled to a lot of countries and every time i come back home to Switzerland i am grateful that i live in a great country. I realise that my apartment i own is like living in luxury when comparing how a lot of other people live in this world. I am grateful for what i have. I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else.
I know what you mean, my, son lives there and I lived in Switzerland before, and if ever I went away I, loved coming home, a lot of people think the Swiss are posh , and distant, that is also not true,
Hallo LMH Wie geht est ihnen or bonjour? My name is Sofia i agree with u 100 procent. I live Amsterdam in Holland and i am nurse by the way and i will be moving soon in Switserland alone Geneva or Zurich or Luzern. What i learn from other foreign people is that they expect everything in same way as their home country!! which is very wrong becouse every country is different from other country. I am realy learning German and french right now very wel becouse i want to adapt swiss lifestyle in order to get along with other. In that way my life will be very easer for me.
Lm h, I totally agree with you, 👍 I come from England and people say oh London is so expensive, yes it is but like you said , you must work out your life. My, daughter lives in Switzerland and she goes to friends etc, and she is connected to live there 😊👍
I agree that the prices seems to be ridiculously high, but when you have a job here it seems to be quite doable. I am now transferring from our office in Japan to our company office in Switzerland in March 2021. I was slightly shocked when they told me that my base salary will be around 86K CHF (80K EUR), whereas in Tokyo the same job at the same company is paying me 6,7M yen (55K EUR). Also taxes in Switzerland are lower than in other European countries or Japan.
You are right. The high cost is offset by the higher salaries as well. Even the minimum wage in Switzerland is higher than what's obtainable in Germany. I wish you all the best with your relocation. Thanks for watching 😊
Well, to be objective, there is a vast difference between the two countries. For instance, Germany is bigger, with a growing economy so the country can accomodate bigger numbers of labour with different levels and sets of skills. Switzerland on the other hand is a small country with a stable rock solid economy that attracts the highest skilled professionals only, and that makes it really difficult to find a job if you have a mediocre set of skills. Also, Swiss people are of conservative nature and that makes it hard to find swiss friends, however, the big cities are cosmopolitan so you can find all sorts of people from all kinds of backgrounds to be friends with. In conclusion and according to my personal experience. People don't choose to live in Switzerland. People aspire to live in Switzerland, nevertheless, it's not for everyone.
The girl on the left seems to lack a true understanding of Switzerland. Of course prices are higher when compared to Germany. Across the board, people in Switzerland make significantly higher incomes than the same profession in Germany. How does she think does salaries can be paid? Only by having higher prices for everything. Also, Swiss have a much lower tax burden than Germans.
No, she knows exactly what she is talking about. And life is not all about money. Money does not make you happy and the perfect example is Switzerland where people have everything but are so empty inside.
@@mellyklint6199 Totally agree. There are SO many countries on earth where you can earn good money and live a happier lifestyle than in Switzerland. I am from Ukraine and lived in both countries, my money gave me more freedom in Germany than in Switzerland. For example, you earn 5000 Euros in Germany or 7000 in Switzerland, 5000 Euros gives me more money at the end because rent is only 600 Euros, food is cheaper, health insurance is cheaper and the small stuf is cheaper too, for example going out for diner etc.
I agree with the comments above me. Switzerland is not the only country with low taxes, and in Germany you get a lot back for paying high taxes and not everyone pays high taxes. Dont make Switzerland appear as a paradise compared to Germany. I like Germany much better!!!
Red Flag: Zürich is NOT the capital! It's Bern. 😉 Or, because Switzerland is different in so many ways: to be very precise, there is no Capital just a "Bundesstadt". But if you have to name a City as a capital, it is Bern.
@@manuelweichelt528 Thats so racist. Swiss not only speak Swiss German. So dont say if you speak Swiss German life is amazing, because you forget about the Italian and French speaking part. That is what I hate about Swiss Germans. They think Swiss German is first of all necessary to be liked, which is bullshit, because if I befriend you, I dont care what language you speak, and second of all, I have many Swiss friends who speak French and Italian as their FIRST language! I hope you arent Swiss, because that would be very weird as you should know that in Switzerland we speak 4 languages.
@@konstruktivismuskonstru9360 Uiii, they take nothing easy. Have you ever met a real Swiss Buenzli? Damn, the majority of Swiss Germans are very hard to deal with. I have a Swiss mum and family in Switzerland and spend there a lot of time. Its one of the most rule following xenophobic societies EVER. You cant be yourself and the people arent really relaxed at all, expect for Ticino which is heavily influenced by Italy.
Thank you both so much for this video. I've been going back and forth in my mind for some time about living in Germany vs Switzerland, and this video provides some great perspective and experience ❤
I think the issue was that she was learning high German and it was difficult to practice outside the classroom because everybody spoke Swiss German. It's a bit difficult to learn 2 languages at the same time. 😊
@@Waleochronicles Understood. I would like say though, it is no different then Castilian Spanish vs Cuban Spanish, British English vs Scottish English vs Southern American English or Portuguese vs Brazilian. She's not at all wasting her time learning high German(after all it's good to know where it all comes from). It's essentially the same language just different dialects. I just think the issue is immersion. If I was her, I would have avoided any kind of English and English speaking media. Outside of the classroom, she could hiring a tutor to practice conversation with and assist her with accent reduction(it cost money of course). She was lucky because she even had a member of the opposite that Swiss to practice conversation with. Yes learning a language is tedious but the process is accelerated and become much more easier when you're in the country of your targeted language(at least from my experience). Best of luck to your friend.
Thank you for this well worded suggestion. I will pass across the message to her 😊 Learning a language requires full immersion like you said. Its not easy but it is possible.
i am a foreigner and everyone speaks high german with me my students of course like to teach me swiss german because I teach them english swiss german is basically high german with the end of the word cut off, like in french, and „li“ is added to the ends of a lot of. and there are also some simple french and itallian words added (simpler to pronounce than the german words) - like vélo (bike), trottoir (footpath), springen (sprint), gummeli (potato), zahni (10), guggeli (hen), poulet (chicken), porc (pork) and everything is written in 3 languages everywhere so it is easy to guess what something is the problem with learning hochdeutsch in Switzerland is that the foreigners dont learn hochdeutsch, so if you only mix sith other foreigners then you will only go backwards. there are a lot of germans in Switzerland to speak german with and also most swiss who speak hochdeutsch, even the mountain farmers who have a very low level of education
Thanks for the info. Personally, I see this issue like a very individual perspective. I mean, the living experience of each person depends on so many factors, including luck.
If you just want to stay in Switzerland as a tourist than it is way more expensive than Germany. But if you want to stay for good and work you earn so much more in Switzerland that it more than compensates for the higher prices. And you will also soon find out where and how to shop in order to get more value for money. But it is hard to find a good job in Switzerland, competition is harsh.
Money is not everything. I rather want to have good friends and people around my than a high paying job and lots of competition. A high salary does not compensate loneliness and Switzerland can be very lonely.
@@jeanine8290 Yes definitely, but so can any country. You can make friends easy in Switzerland if you are friendly and helpful and come without prejudice.
@@Bluepeter62 No, you cannot because Swiss are full of prejudice, They wont even give you a job in service industry when you do not speak Swiss German. The guy told me the customers do not want people to speak standard German with them even when you have C1 level. Discrimination at its best. It tells me a lot about how racist Swiss are. Maybe they should start looking at themselves and be more welcoming instead of expecting others to be "friendly and helpful". In a welcoming country, the people want to appear friendly and helpful to their GUESTS! They put themselves second. In Switzerland people do not invite strangers like friends of friends because there arent enough "drinks for everyone at home". "They werent prepared and everyone has to bring their own drinks". You know what, in countries like Israel people want to show you that they care about their guests and want the people to show that their country is nice, they do not look at you first and judge you based on your personality and then decide if you are worthy their time, they ARE welcoming. In Israel I go to a shabbat dinner of strangers and there is ALWAYS enough food and drinks!! Friends of friends invite you to their homes without having to prepare weeks in advance. You just go because people want to enjoy time with each other. In Switzerland it takes years in order to get invited by someone and then it is very conditional, you have to fit into their little Swiss world and behave like a Swiss. In other countries people want you to be who you are, So fuck it, you are WRONG! I really dislike Switzerland.
To buy a beer and drink it in the street ist maybe not the case in Zürich, but in Bern, the capital city, it is part of the culture! Alternative city 😉
Income tax will in Germany is 40%. Income tax in Switzerland is 25% and other taxes in Switzerland and much lower, I heard. I need a lot more research. We need a comparison video about taxes.
But you pay nearly 400-500 Swiss francs for health insurance per month :/ Its really expensive. You also spend at least 100 Swiss francs on groceries per weeks. Goin out is way too expensive and the food isnt really good. A pizza is 20 Swiss francs and more. Thats already nearly a 1000 bucks just for health insurance and grocery shopping plus eating out per month. You need the low taxes to cover basic living. Not everyone has the salary of a doctor in Switzerland. As a cashier or other normal job , you only earn around 4000-5000 Swiss francs. Rent is at LEAST 1000 Swiss francs per month. Plus other insurances for car etc. there is oftentimes not much left.
We have 4 official languages in Switzerland. Swiss german, with many different dialects, french, Italian and Romansh. We learn “High German” in Elementary School, French comes next and English in High School. We are very proud to be Swiss for many Generations.
I lived in Switzerland for 11 years, went to school here and my circle of friends is like non-existent. Most of my friends are expats as well & I met them at church. It's hard to make friends here, they don't seem like they share too much of their emotions. I feel like they don't have problems in life, all they do is party & have fun lol
@@carloandreaguilar5916 what I mean is that in germany the people are also like in switzerland but in some cases they are much stricter for example talking about their history, their culture etc.
@@carloandreaguilar5916 try to go to different cities like Basel, Bern or even Genf. Also Germany people also are very anti social. Only minding their own business and not share it with others
@@reduniverse796 I experienced it the other way. Swiss people seemed waaaay more strict than Germans. I think Germans are much more open-minded and like us Americans. Swiss people are more like Canadians, more shy and emotions off.
@@reduniverse796 I do not agree that Germans are more anti social than Swiss. I made more friends in one day in Germany than in 5 years in Switzerland. I prefer to live in Germany ;)
Loved the video and how genuinely you introduced everything! Thank you for all the information!. It seems like Berlin would be a great place to start a new life! 💚
I don’t know how your friend came up with the idea, that people in the French part of Switzerland speak less English than in the German part. Maybe in small villages, but that would be the case elsewhere in Switzerland also. However in cities like Geneva and Lausanne speaking English really shouldn’t be a problem.
@Leonardo Viegas Well, one of my good friends is from Lausanne and her and her friends English is as good as mine. But there are different people everywhere. ✌🏻
Switzerland is in the worldwide EFI (English Proficiency Index) only at Rank 29. Netherland 1, Germany 10, Austria 3. And the reason why an educated country like Switzerland has that bad result is mainly due to the French speaking part - just like France (Rank 34) ... the German speaking part speaks MUCH better and more English in relation. And everyone how has a bit knowledge about international communities (e.g. online computer games) know that French speaking ppl are usually the ones with 'bad/broken English' just like ppl from Russia or Turkey - which makes team building much more difficult. This does of course not mean that there are not ppl from France or the French speaking part in Switzerland who speak good English, but the amount of ppl is lower comparted to many other countries.
Am I the only one who thinks 400 swiss Francs for a double room is a good deal? In California in most cities (unless you are in the deserted parts) you'll be lucky to spend 800 USD for a small double room.
Referring to pizza gurl ("sounds like Switzerland is the California of Europe"): Well, there are big differences especially by each language-region. And actually the culture changes in every valley you go. And there are manny. Zürich is a mix out of California and NY. Unfriendly, busy and crowded. But clean and "fancy". Clean it is actually everywhere in the german part of CH. Geneva or Lausanne... I avoid! Expensive is every one of the bigger cities we have. For general big price differences, the country is too small. Except the rents. If you check the smaller cities, you get really nice flats for small money (relatively). Aarau for example is much cheaper than Zürich, Geneva or Bern. But why would you move to Aarau beside a cheap apartment? P.S. In Switzerland is the area close to the station THE place to be! It's almost impossible to get a flat there you can afford to pay. Dirty Geneva might be a exception. About the rents I know Bern and there, EVERY flat for 2 people or more, for less than CHF 1'000.--/ month - is crap! But the cheapest ones are anyway almost 1'000.--. So if you spend like 930.-- you get something no native swiss person would move to, if there is a choice. If you spend a 100.-- more, you can already get something really nice. So keep that in mind if you ever gonna look for a apartment in CH.
Ich muss ehrlich sein. Ich werde offen sein. Ich bin Eisenbahnfan UND ein starker Verfechter aller Formen der Elektrifizierung des Verkehrs. Berlin hatte gerade diese schrecklichen Straßenbahnen von Alstom, einem Schienenhersteller in Frankreich, erworben, die, da die ältere Ausrüstung Fenster hatte, um beide Enden zu sehen (wie Frontend-Sicht), wie die beiden anderen elektrischen Schienen in Berlin, die S-Bahn und die U- Bahn haben jetzt sogar die Straßenbahnen diese pechschwarze feste Wand zwischen dem Fahrer in diesem abgerundeten klaren Fenster (Windschutzscheibe), so dass selbst die Straßenbahnen nicht mehr möglich sind, als Passagier vorn zu sehen. Versteh mich nicht falsch, Berlin ist eine wunderschöne Stadt als Hauptstadt Deutschlands. Viele Dinge zu sehen und zu erleben, aber ich mag die U-Bahn, die S-Bahn oder auch die Straßenbahn nicht, obwohl sie alle elektrisch sind! Ich nehme an, der Direktor der öffentlichen Verkehrsmittel in Berlin seit der Nachkriegszeit hat Probleme damit, Eisenbahnfans oder der breiten Öffentlichkeit zu erlauben, aus der Vorderseite einer elektrischen Schiene in Berlin zu sehen! Ich war so am Boden zerstört, dass ich, abgesehen von kurzen Besuchen, nicht glücklich wäre, in Berlin (obwohl es die LGBTQ-Hauptstadt für ganz Europa ist) dauerhaft dort zu leben. Ich bin in Bern in der Schweiz geboren und aus den Trams in der Schweiz kann man größtenteils vorne heraussehen, Zürich hat diese Fähigkeit auch, verwendet aber immer noch klares Glas mit einem Hauch von Blaustich. Ich möchte zurück nach Europa ziehen, und Leipzig scheint mir die günstigste Stadt zum Leben in Deutschland zu sein. Die Straßenbahnen haben durchsichtige Fenster und man kann dort auch über die Schulter des Fahrers nach vorne sehen! Ich glaube, ich wäre in Leipzig glücklich! Ich bin deutsche Schweizer deshalb verstehe die Beiden, Hochdeutsch und Bärndütsch. Man könnte sich die Frage stellen, warum lebst du nicht in deinem Land, der Schweiz? Antwort in einem Satz: ES IST ZU VERDAMMT TEUER! ICH BIN NICHT UNBEDINGT REICH! (Ich wünschte doch, ich wäre es)!
also als Bahnfan sollte Berlin trotzdem weit interessanter sein. In der Schweiz wie auch in Leipzig gibs ueberhaupt keine vergleichbare U-Bahn oder S-Bahn. Und alles nur von den abgedunkelten Scheiben abhaengig zu machen ist doch reiner Unsinn. Du hast so gut wie nie eine freie Sicht auf den Fahrer in den U-S-Bahnen der Welt (auch nicht in sonstigen Zuegen wie ICE, konventionellen). Und auch in Berlin haengst von den Trams ab, mal davon abgesehen, dass man eh mehr sieht, wenn man nicht auf den Fahrer blickt (egal ob Bus oder Tram), sondern auf der rechten Seite vorbei - was in der Regel geht. Sieht also so aus, dass dich lediglich ein bestimmter Strassenbahntyp stoert. Bei mir ists uebrigens die neue S-Bahn. Ich fand das alte Interieur als auch die Taucherbrillen-Erscheinung besser (aehnlich bei den U-Bahnen, die eher wie Trams aussehen. Mag ich weniger, sieht schlechter aus usw.)
Once you are older and further in your career, you will discover the "miracle" of taxes. That's when Germany becomes tax hell. There are various studies that despite the high prices and the cost of living, on the net side the Swiss have more disposable income. Then again, money is not everything.
@Jean juju Well, I refer to an OECD study that shows clearly that Swiss have considerable more disposable income than Germans after taxes and with the high prices. I have many German friends that seriously disagree with you. But hey, a free world and you can live wherever you want. As for me, I like Germany and the cost of living is a clear advantage. Then again, the German system also has a lot more advantages for freeloaders. You also seem to have a reading disability. I wrote "Then again, money is not everything" and you answer "Not true. Money is not everything." I guess you not being in Switzerland anymore is a win win situation for both sides then. All the best!
@Jean juju Yeah, I bet you would feel more at ease at the "Reichshauptstadtslum" Berlin. Enjoy! I lived 20 years of my life in other countries, in Africa and Latin America. So I am not the "typical Swiss". The perfect country does not exist. Also Switzerland has problems and working poor. The rest all comes down to personal life style, preferences and circumstances. Switzerland is a place where achievements and hard work are still rewarded. But you are absolutely right. To get paid peanuts, give half of it away, but having the work life balance you want, is a personal choice.
@@mellyklint6199 I did not write that anywhere. So I do not know where you read that. There is many countries offering opportunities and rewards. Myself I work with and in Latin America.
The girl representing germany would actually fit in well anywhere because she is very open, rather than complaining about everything. she would also fit in very well in Switzerland (especially in the french speaking part)
"fit in very well" Omg, so people have to be a certain way to fit into Switzerland? Haha why dont you just accept people for who they are, this would bring more variety to the boring Swiss lifestyle.
the French speaking part is btw. the main reason why Switzerland is in the EFI Ranking (English Proficiency Index) only at rank 29. Like France they suck with English (the German part of Switzerland is much better - as the girl in the video correctly mentioned).
Judging from what Stefy says about the two countries, I will go with Germany as well. I mean,I already feel like m so up tight here, and it's worse in Switzerland.... Girlllll....I love Berlin. If freedom was a city,it would be Berlin😅
Thanks for watching. Germany is wonderful but Switzerland also has so much to offer as well. You just have to consider what your end goal is and decide accordingly.
Pls I need to fast reply about This how can I apply for Swiss university for my post graduate diploma. My father is a citizen of Switzerland but I live in Nigeria
But it is more boring in Switzerland. Switzerland is too boring to be that expensive. And money does not bring you happiness. I am way more happier in Berlin than I was in Zurich.
Stop that "high swiss income" propaganda. It's so annoying! 80% swiss are average or even below-average earners. Only a tiny minority (probably 10-20%) really earn high salaries. If salaries are so high in Switzerland why does it according to statistics have the lowest home ownership rate in Europe? The typical swiss worker might earn averagely higher than his counterpart in neighboring countries but at the end of the day has less in the pocket due to their extortionate price levels be it rent, food, clothing, entertainment, healthcare.
@@yogamazing5941 Exactly! The swiss are so full of themselves but they are nothing but corporate workers being constantly milked by their own government. It's just that the banking system over there attracts very high net worth individuals and multinational firms. It's always rumored to be a "rich" country but actually refers to the group of wealthy individuals that reside there. The swiss in fact are not living better or larger than other europeans but strangely have an exaggerated sense of self-importance due to complexities and the false narratives attached to their tiny country.
@@valwesle8509 I totally agree. I know many expats in Switzerland who wanted to buy a house but 1 million Swiss Francs does not bring you far, maybe on the country side but maybe not where you want to buy and live. In their home countries, they would get a huge house for the same amount or even two houses :D
Most Germans think swiss people are talking swiss german, when they actually try to speak high german. "Isch gut gsi" "(Es) ist gut gewesen (gsi). It was good.
Switzerland is not bad at all. It just depends on what you want. The comparison between Zuerich/Switzerland and Berlin is also kind of extreme. Berlin is also compared to Germany a bit different. And the stereotypes between Munich and Berlin are quite similar. People who prefer Southern Germany/Austria over Berlin are likely also prefer Switzerland over Berlin and the opposite. Different ways of life ...
@@publicminx Zurich is the worst city in Switzerland :/ Too many rich Buenzlis The only truly nice region in Switzerland is Ticino with kind-hearted and warm people.
I feel like the ecuatorian girl didn't get a very good experience living in Switzerland. I feel like she looks back at those days with pain in the chest, she's not being objective. I believe everyone has to have her/his own opinion.
@@mellyklint6199 my point is: if you are considering moving to Switzerland, take into consideration that this girl obviously didn't have a good time there. She talks like everything in that country is bad, and that Germany is way better. So, she's not actually giving an objetctive point of view. I mean, everyone has his/her own opinions based on experiences; she didn't have a good one but that doesn't mean the country is all wrong
@@giulianaclerc3416 That's because when it comes to Switzerland many people like to exaggerate and put up a facade in order to give a wrong impression. She was actually being objective and truthful with her opinion unlike some imbeciles who say stuff just to please the crowd. Many people (mainly foreign residents and the expat group) like her have had similar bad experiences and are speaking out on other platforms, if you care to know.
@@giulianaclerc3416 Being objective does not mean she is wrong about the stuff she is talking about, being objective means to have an OWN opinion and to not follow the crowd as many Swiss people do.
Guiliana: no. The point here is rather that comparing Zurich/Switzerland with Berlin is kinda extreme. You had similar results if you compare Munich to Berlin. If you are younger, more outgoing, like to meet thousand ppl, run into thousand things everyday then of course Berlin is way more attractive. If you prefer a slightly different way of life then Southern Germany, Austria or Switzerland is more interesting. Or more gradient: other parts of Germany ...
this illustrates the intelligence of this girl in relation to her knowledge of the two countries. this is her response to my comment about trains being late in Switzerland . her response talks for itself🙄 „ Comdeia Divina Have you ever heard of Deutschland Bahn?? 😅 il y a 5 jours 1 “
@G M you never was in Switzerland right? The kitchen is level and you have job opportunities as well, but you must be high educated. We have lower taxes than Germany. The landscape in Germany is better, really? What you call a mountain is just a hill in Switzerland and our lakes are bluer than the heaven in Germany.
@G M Baden-Würrtemberg is very simular to Switzerland, but don't forget, Switzerland is older than Germany. Better job opportunities is not true, a lot of this jobs in Germany are underpaid. I mean 450€ per month is absolutely disastrous.
@G M the age is important because you said, Germany is more cultural than Switzerland. Second, 1600€ per month is absolutely bullsh*t. Look at the social carta of Germany, what happens there, when someone loses his job. The social carta in Switzerland is much better. And, we never attacked an other country (ok, not in the last 150 years), Germany started two WWs (and lost both 😂). We are the only country in the world with the direct democracy, so the real power comes from the people, not from politicians. Is Germany still better? We are not perfect, of course not, nobody is perfect, but we are unique.
@@tomhan100 Lmao you seem to be a delusional Swiss nationalist who can't come to grip with the fact that Germany is significantly better than Switzerland. First of all, your claim about 450 Euros per month is absolute BS. Even Balkan countries have higher average monthly salary than that, let alone Germany. Average monthly salary in Germany currently stands at 2560 Euros. Secondly Germany is culturally richer than Switzerland(by far), has friendlier and more open people, larger job market, stronger workers protection, more diverse landscapes ( literally everything you can find it CH you can find in Baden Württemberg), much better cuisine and is in the EU. Finally, you never attacked anyone because a) you would be crushed by your larger neighbours if you attempted to do that and b) because European powers have imposed neutrality on you in 1815, Vienna Congress. THe only reason why Germany never invaded you is because you are small, landlocked and strategically insignificant country that was perfectly willing to play ball with the Nazis. Not to mentioned you massively profited of the WW2 by stealing Jewish possesions and have redirected them back to Germany when they tried to cross your borders so you might want to get off your high horse before mentioning history.
@@JC-to5by i'm not a nationalist, but i will defend my country against lies. Like yours. I did not say, Switzerland is better than Germany, i think both countries are very close. So, don't talk about our culture, when you know nothing about Switzerland. Did you know, that Switzerland is the oldest democracy in Europe, that still exists? You know what direct democracy is? We have it and it means, that the power comes from the people. Germans are friendlier and more open? Thats unfortunately true.
You are saying things that relate to you You were not integrated into the Swiss society That is your problem, you expect others to love you You are nothing You don’t even know that in the french speaking parts that English is spoken by most people And you think that the German train company is called « Deutschland Bahnh » Oh my god Your brain is so small You post videos expecting people to love you But when they give an honest response that you don’t like then you lash out You are not a star. Get over yourself The girl representing Germany is much more intelligent, mature and likable than you In Switzerland people who are arrogant like you are not welcome. The girl representing Germany would however be liked everywhere because she is open and not arrogant . She would be welcome in Switzerland and make a lot of friends.
as a non german speaking (non integrated) foreigner you only get the shit accommodation. zurich isnt Switzerland. it is its own country. the second language in Geva and Lausanne is english.
There are some really great insights in this video, but please try and control the laughing😉 Switzerland is a very highly rule bound, but consequently very respectful, country. The infrastructure, and especially the public transport, is superb, second to none. There are so many outdoors activities at all times of the year. But yes, don't expect the Western ideal of a 24/7 culture. Even in the main urban areas, there is a lot of respect for people having quality time with family or whatever they choose, rather than being worked to the bone.
Switzerland is no paradise, dont even try to portray it as the perfect country. It is boring, racist and arrogant. Never have been to a place where so many people walk around with sad and judging faces.
What nonsense, Marco Willi. Swiss-German is a set of dialects and these are most definitely not a literary language. One of the four national languages of Switzerland is German, i.e. High German, and not any of the dialects.
Yeah Bavarian is a written dialect too, just as Swiss German. Its a German dialect and not a language. Bavarian is very different from standard German but its still German, same goes for Swiss German. I have a Swiss mum and a Bavarian dad so I know both are written differently with some sort of grammar, but it doesnt count as a real language.
as a third country national you will have zero chance at getting a permit for long term employment in Switzerland (unfortunately- as they have an EU regulation that favors EU citizens) Germany - since march 2020 everyone has an equal right to a job ( since the asylum seekers who were prioritized over non EU people didnt end up being brain surgeons and dont want to work and Germany needs workers) so for that sole reason, Germany wins and for the much better variety of food on all other factors Switzerland wins
Don’t waste ur time to learn German, because out of Switzerland or Germany, this language is useless. I am sure u will be fed up soon or later to leave the country.
OR... you could demonstrate your interest in their country and culture by trying, and you'll have a better experience if you can understand the language
I think the girl on the left isn't very talented in foreign languagues. I have an Irish friend who attended a Swiss German course in Zurich and after two months she spoke it like a native speaker. This might be extreme but just to show you that everything is possible. 👍🏻
Switzerland: each canton is very different. Geneva - international, muggings Lausanne - very international, risk of mugging in some places, high crime Zurich - arrogant people. also a lot of international people Bern - friendly mix of people, swiss and international Argau - lower social class (because of cheaper housing) Zug - small community of international people (who learn english rather than german) Lucern - a lot of arabs / muslim men, too many chinese tourists Schwyz - the first canton and very traditional - you are expected to greet everyone and there are a lot of parades of cows decorated with bells and flowers Ticino - very latino / italian Basel - full of prostitutes, criminals, zigeuners (Romanian Gypsies), transvestites. Popular with germans who live in Freiburg DE. Advantages - awesome hiking - cheaper universities than in Germany - people are more reserved (you are welcome if you dont make a big noise) - ability to talk and vote about things - free food on trees, you can have your own vegie garden - free housing if you are integrated (i have my own house in the mountains) - you make good lasting friendships, rather than superficial friendships - very cheap train tickets (if you are integrated you know where to find these) disadvantages - trains are often cancelled or stop running halfway through their journey (due to electrical problems, avalanches on the track, problems in border countries - italy) - lack of variety of food. and when it is marked down because it is basically inedible then it is still twice the price if nice fresh food in germany - trains stop running at around midnight Germany - has changed a lot - very difficult to get cheap housing now - university fees have increased significantly - too many muslim men (as a white female with blond hair I am always stared at) - even old ladies complain about the asylum seeker men asking them for sex on a daily basis and not understanding the meaning of the words „no, never“ - a social state where there are a lot of people who never work (they spend their lives taking drugs, smoking etc) advantages of germany - great variety of food - cheaper food - trains that run 24/7 - awesome water parks and adventure parks ! - cheap swimming pools disadvantages of germany - safety is now a big issue - has returned to the DDR - university fees skyrocketed for international students - lack of housing - no mountains , no places like Switzerland has to go hiking - they have cancelled their cheap express train deals - some germans are very arrogant and aggressive against the swiss. (the swiss will just walk away) - old germany was great. but new germany is sadly not as great - swimming areas are now no longer safe for females
To all the people who are considering moving to Germany because they saw this video, please consider the following that was not discussed in the video, the difference in taxes, if you earn 100,000USD in Germany you will pay around 38% tax, your Net salary would be around $ 62,000, while in Switzerland for every $ 100,000 you will pay around 15% m and you will retain $ 83,000 of the net salary.
There is no capital gains tax in Switzerland, while in Germany it charges 25%. (if you like to invest in the stock market)
So this will depend on your lifestyle and profession.
exactly
but in switzerland there is the wealth tax.
i didnt know about germany‘s capital gains tax, thanks
The tax savings go a lot further than that. But then you have the health insurance and the "cost of living" tax.
Money is not everything Enrik. You also should be happy living where you are. I earned so much more in Switzerland but was very unhappy there. Now I am in Berlin and get more for my money and also like the culture better.
You are saying the half truth dude. From this you need to deduct the cost of health insurance. Moreover the cost of living in CH is much higher than in DE, it can reach up to 2 times. Also if you need to send your kids to the kindergarten you need to pay around 1.500CHF+ dependening on the canton. So CH can easily become a financial nightmare...
It depends on your stage of life too. Now that I have 2 school aged children and don’t go clubbing anymore, safe green and clean Switzerland is perfect. Even small kids walk to school by themselves and so much beautiful outdoor activities so close. Ski school is 20 min away, clean lake you can swim or sail, pedestrian friendly town...
I have two children, but we moved away from Switzerland because of social isolation. So I do not agree. My kids walk to school on their own in Berlin.
You can also ski and do many amazing things outdoors in Germany or France. You people make Switzerland out to be something which is far from reality. It's a very dull country just like the people.
I am from Spain and my kids also walk to school by themselves in Germany. We used to live in Switzerland and there is not really a difference to what you described. We live in Bavaria now and tend to visit Austria more often than Switzerland.
@@yogamazing5941 Yeah they make it seem like children walking to school is something that's exclusive to CH. To my knowledge, most European children walk to school on their own.
Switzerland:
+ High Salary
+ Low taxes
+ Very scenic
+ Highly organized, disciplined
+ Equality
+ Public transport
- Costly
- Very tough for non-EU (Getting/ changing job, PR)
- Lack of freedom (Changing job, canton, yearly permit renewal)
- Language tougher but a must
- Making friends is tougher, no social life
here in switzerland you will have a lot of money.. this is not expensive to live for swiss people because we have more money then germany in the end of the month.. As a Busdriver you have 7600.- in the end of the month.. this is more then 7200 Euro.. This is in every job here.. this is why we have expensive things here. Because we have the money. in germany the things are cheep, but they have not a lot of money in the end of the month like in switzerland
Money is not worth the boredom in Switzerland. Too expensive to be that boring. It is easier to make friends in Germany to be honest, friendships and family are always first. Swiss people have money but are super depressed. Not impolite, but not really friendly country.
@@jenmeier4366 Im grow up here in switzerland and i'm very open and frindly.. But you right, not a lot of people here in my country are like me.. Sometimes i miss that... And i don't know why so many peoples are so closet.. I'm to open for that.. i'm happy my family are all swiss people but they are all extremly frindly and open
I do not agree. I worked in Switzerland and in Germany in IT. In Germany you earn around 8000 as an IT specialist, and I only pay 700 Euros rent for a three bedroom apartment. I earned nearly the same in Switzerland but paid around 3000 Swiss Francs per month so right now I have so much more money left. I know a nurse in Switzerland who only earns 6000 Swiss Francs and that is not much when you have children and rent to pay. I prefer the German lifestyle.
@@palomajessy1760 i'm moving to Zurich in a near future and i'm very excited about that but one of the considering things is that Swiss are conservative people.. my own people are very conservative too especially toward expats and i get that but i was really looking forward to take advantage of this opportunity and make new friends and as you may know moving to Switzerland is very challenging which isn't bugging me as much as the first subject
I fully agree with you, and not to mention the quietness, the cleanliness, the high culture, the views of the mountains, greenness, job opportunities, and the power of the passport comparing to Germany.
You can’t compare Germany and Switzerland with regard to the cost of products, Germany has 10 times the population of Switzerland, they have a bigger market to sell to. Also i can buy shampoo in Switzerland for Sfr. 2.50 (Schwarzkopf) at Otto’s. There are some shampoos which cost more, it depends on what brand you want. No-one forces you to have a drink in a restaurant, you can buy a drink in a supermarket and drink it in the park. Berlin has about 4 to 5 million people, no city in Switzerland is that big, so it’s a bit dopey to compare such a large city to places in a smaller country. Zurich and Geneva are the two most expensive cities in Switzerland, the other towns in Switzerland are cheaper to live in. We have a very high standard of living in Switzerland that’s why things are dearer. We have very good services etc but we pay for them. I’m Swiss and i love my country, i’ve lived in Australia and travelled to a lot of countries and every time i come back home to Switzerland i am grateful that i live in a great country. I realise that my apartment i own is like living in luxury when comparing how a lot of other people live in this world. I am grateful for what i have. I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else.
I know what you mean, my, son lives there and I lived in Switzerland before, and if ever I went away I, loved coming home, a lot of people think the Swiss are posh , and distant, that is also not true,
Hallo LMH Wie geht est ihnen or bonjour? My name is Sofia i agree with u 100 procent. I live Amsterdam in Holland and i am nurse by the way and i will be moving soon in Switserland alone Geneva or Zurich or Luzern. What i learn from other foreign people is that they expect everything in same way as their home country!! which is very wrong becouse every country is different from other country. I am realy learning German and french right now very wel becouse i want to adapt swiss lifestyle in order to get along with other. In that way my life will be very easer for me.
Exactly!!!
Lm h, I totally agree with you, 👍 I come from England and people say oh London is so expensive, yes it is but like you said , you must work out your life. My, daughter lives in Switzerland and she goes to friends etc, and she is connected to live there 😊👍
@@sophiedion1738 where are you Sofia?
I agree that the prices seems to be ridiculously high, but when you have a job here it seems to be quite doable.
I am now transferring from our office in Japan to our company office in Switzerland in March 2021. I was slightly shocked when they told me that my base salary will be around 86K CHF (80K EUR), whereas in Tokyo the same job at the same company is paying me 6,7M yen (55K EUR). Also taxes in Switzerland are lower than in other European countries or Japan.
You are right. The high cost is offset by the higher salaries as well. Even the minimum wage in Switzerland is higher than what's obtainable in Germany. I wish you all the best with your relocation. Thanks for watching 😊
@@Waleochronicles are those salaries mentioned above after tax? And where can you save more money with the same salary and similar job?
in the border towns ? that isnt Switzerland, that is the border
Well, to be objective, there is a vast difference between the two countries. For instance, Germany is bigger, with a growing economy so the country can accomodate bigger numbers of labour with different levels and sets of skills. Switzerland on the other hand is a small country with a stable rock solid economy that attracts the highest skilled professionals only, and that makes it really difficult to find a job if you have a mediocre set of skills. Also, Swiss people are of conservative nature and that makes it hard to find swiss friends, however, the big cities are cosmopolitan so you can find all sorts of people from all kinds of backgrounds to be friends with.
In conclusion and according to my personal experience. People don't choose to live in Switzerland. People aspire to live in Switzerland, nevertheless, it's not for everyone.
Not all people. Only wage slaves.
The girl on the left seems to lack a true understanding of Switzerland. Of course prices are higher when compared to Germany. Across the board, people in Switzerland make significantly higher incomes than the same profession in Germany. How does she think does salaries can be paid? Only by having higher prices for everything. Also, Swiss have a much lower tax burden than Germans.
Always the same propaganda of high salaries and low taxes being touted by parrots. So boring and annoying.
No, she knows exactly what she is talking about. And life is not all about money. Money does not make you happy and the perfect example is Switzerland where people have everything but are so empty inside.
@@mellyklint6199 Totally agree. There are SO many countries on earth where you can earn good money and live a happier lifestyle than in Switzerland. I am from Ukraine and lived in both countries, my money gave me more freedom in Germany than in Switzerland. For example, you earn 5000 Euros in Germany or 7000 in Switzerland, 5000 Euros gives me more money at the end because rent is only 600 Euros, food is cheaper, health insurance is cheaper and the small stuf is cheaper too, for example going out for diner etc.
I agree with the comments above me. Switzerland is not the only country with low taxes, and in Germany you get a lot back for paying high taxes and not everyone pays high taxes. Dont make Switzerland appear as a paradise compared to Germany. I like Germany much better!!!
I honestly enjoyed the conversation very much, informative and fun 😄
Red Flag: Zürich is NOT the capital! It's Bern. 😉 Or, because Switzerland is different in so many ways: to be very precise, there is no Capital just a "Bundesstadt". But if you have to name a City as a capital, it is Bern.
exactly, she has absolutely no idea about Switzerland
Oh my when she had to choose and chose Germany made me wowed after all the good things she said about Switzerland. Really chilled clip.
if you speak swiss german and have a circle of friends switzerland is amazing if not it is very hard to become happy here.
@Jean juju I find Swiss people more relaxed. They take it all easy. It is not so busy everywhere; the nature and the quiety calms down a lot.
@@manuelweichelt528 Thats so racist. Swiss not only speak Swiss German. So dont say if you speak Swiss German life is amazing, because you forget about the Italian and French speaking part. That is what I hate about Swiss Germans. They think Swiss German is first of all necessary to be liked, which is bullshit, because if I befriend you, I dont care what language you speak, and second of all, I have many Swiss friends who speak French and Italian as their FIRST language! I hope you arent Swiss, because that would be very weird as you should know that in Switzerland we speak 4 languages.
@@konstruktivismuskonstru9360 Uiii, they take nothing easy. Have you ever met a real Swiss Buenzli? Damn, the majority of Swiss Germans are very hard to deal with. I have a Swiss mum and family in Switzerland and spend there a lot of time. Its one of the most rule following xenophobic societies EVER. You cant be yourself and the people arent really relaxed at all, expect for Ticino which is heavily influenced by Italy.
Thank you both so much for this video. I've been going back and forth in my mind for some time about living in Germany vs Switzerland, and this video provides some great perspective and experience ❤
Great video, love the energy you guys have!
Thanks for watching 😊
I don't know why there's an issue with this young lady learning Swiss German. They have Swiss German tutors. You just need to look.
I think the issue was that she was learning high German and it was difficult to practice outside the classroom because everybody spoke Swiss German. It's a bit difficult to learn 2 languages at the same time. 😊
@@Waleochronicles Understood. I would like say though, it is no different then Castilian Spanish vs Cuban Spanish, British English vs Scottish English vs Southern American English or Portuguese vs Brazilian. She's not at all wasting her time learning high German(after all it's good to know where it all comes from). It's essentially the same language just different dialects. I just think the issue is immersion. If I was her, I would have avoided any kind of English and English speaking media. Outside of the classroom, she could hiring a tutor to practice conversation with and assist her with accent reduction(it cost money of course). She was lucky because she even had a member of the opposite that Swiss to practice conversation with.
Yes learning a language is tedious but the process is accelerated and become much more easier when you're in the country of your targeted language(at least from my experience). Best of luck to your friend.
Thank you for this well worded suggestion. I will pass across the message to her 😊 Learning a language requires full immersion like you said. Its not easy but it is possible.
@@Waleochronicles No problem
i am a foreigner and everyone speaks high german with me
my students of course like to teach me swiss german because I teach them english
swiss german is basically high german with the end of the word cut off, like in french, and „li“ is added to the ends of a lot of.
and there are also some simple french and itallian words added (simpler to pronounce than the german words) - like vélo (bike), trottoir (footpath), springen (sprint), gummeli (potato), zahni (10), guggeli (hen), poulet (chicken), porc (pork)
and everything is written in 3 languages everywhere so it is easy to guess what something is
the problem with learning hochdeutsch in Switzerland is that the foreigners dont learn hochdeutsch, so if you only mix sith other foreigners then you will only go backwards.
there are a lot of germans in Switzerland to speak german with
and also most swiss who speak hochdeutsch, even the mountain farmers who have a very low level of education
Thanks for the info.
Personally, I see this issue like a very individual perspective. I mean, the living experience of each person depends on so many factors, including luck.
If you just want to stay in Switzerland as a tourist than it is way more expensive than Germany. But if you want to stay for good and work you earn so much more in Switzerland that it more than compensates for the higher prices. And you will also soon find out where and how to shop in order to get more value for money. But it is hard to find a good job in Switzerland, competition is harsh.
Money is not everything. I rather want to have good friends and people around my than a high paying job and lots of competition. A high salary does not compensate loneliness and Switzerland can be very lonely.
@@jeanine8290 Yes definitely, but so can any country. You can make friends easy in Switzerland if you are friendly and helpful and come without prejudice.
@@Bluepeter62 No, you cannot because Swiss are full of prejudice, They wont even give you a job in service industry when you do not speak Swiss German. The guy told me the customers do not want people to speak standard German with them even when you have C1 level. Discrimination at its best. It tells me a lot about how racist Swiss are. Maybe they should start looking at themselves and be more welcoming instead of expecting others to be "friendly and helpful". In a welcoming country, the people want to appear friendly and helpful to their GUESTS! They put themselves second. In Switzerland people do not invite strangers like friends of friends because there arent enough "drinks for everyone at home". "They werent prepared and everyone has to bring their own drinks". You know what, in countries like Israel people want to show you that they care about their guests and want the people to show that their country is nice, they do not look at you first and judge you based on your personality and then decide if you are worthy their time, they ARE welcoming. In Israel I go to a shabbat dinner of strangers and there is ALWAYS enough food and drinks!! Friends of friends invite you to their homes without having to prepare weeks in advance. You just go because people want to enjoy time with each other. In Switzerland it takes years in order to get invited by someone and then it is very conditional, you have to fit into their little Swiss world and behave like a Swiss. In other countries people want you to be who you are, So fuck it, you are WRONG! I really dislike Switzerland.
To buy a beer and drink it in the street ist maybe not the case in Zürich, but in Bern, the capital city, it is part of the culture! Alternative city 😉
Income tax will in Germany is 40%. Income tax in Switzerland is 25% and other taxes in Switzerland and much lower, I heard. I need a lot more research. We need a comparison video about taxes.
But you pay nearly 400-500 Swiss francs for health insurance per month :/ Its really expensive. You also spend at least 100 Swiss francs on groceries per weeks. Goin out is way too expensive and the food isnt really good. A pizza is 20 Swiss francs and more. Thats already nearly a 1000 bucks just for health insurance and grocery shopping plus eating out per month. You need the low taxes to cover basic living. Not everyone has the salary of a doctor in Switzerland. As a cashier or other normal job , you only earn around 4000-5000 Swiss francs. Rent is at LEAST 1000 Swiss francs per month. Plus other insurances for car etc. there is oftentimes not much left.
@@mariaagosti-pm7tk I live in a very left-wing socialist city on the west coast of America. That's exactly how expensive it is here, I hate it.
Yet you haven't moved to right leaning southern America. Bro be honest.
@@gozzy538 You have to ask yourself why no one really wants to live there. Rent can only be cheaper because the demand is less.
We have 4 official languages in Switzerland. Swiss german, with many different dialects, french, Italian and Romansh. We learn “High German” in Elementary School, French comes next and English in High School. We are very proud to be Swiss for many Generations.
Swiss German is NOT a language, its a German dialect.
Since when Swiss German is a language? It is considered a German dialect.
Good job. So many European countries can seem so nice at first glance, but they are so "off" in so many ways.
That's true. Whereas the U.S seems OFF in so many ways on paper, it is actually a really good country to live in ;)
I lived in Switzerland for 11 years, went to school here and my circle of friends is like non-existent. Most of my friends are expats as well & I met them at church. It's hard to make friends here, they don't seem like they share too much of their emotions. I feel like they don't have problems in life, all they do is party & have fun lol
Same for germany but more strict
@@carloandreaguilar5916 what I mean is that in germany the people are also like in switzerland but in some cases they are much stricter for example talking about their history, their culture etc.
@@carloandreaguilar5916 try to go to different cities like Basel, Bern or even Genf. Also Germany people also are very anti social. Only minding their own business and not share it with others
@@reduniverse796 I experienced it the other way. Swiss people seemed waaaay more strict than Germans. I think Germans are much more open-minded and like us Americans. Swiss people are more like Canadians, more shy and emotions off.
@@reduniverse796 I do not agree that Germans are more anti social than Swiss. I made more friends in one day in Germany than in 5 years in Switzerland. I prefer to live in Germany ;)
You guys are a whole vibe 👏🏾👏🏾
Loved the video and how genuinely you introduced everything! Thank you for all the information!. It seems like Berlin would be a great place to start a new life! 💚
I don’t know how your friend came up with the idea, that people in the French part of Switzerland speak less English than in the German part. Maybe in small villages, but that would be the case elsewhere in Switzerland also. However in cities like Geneva and Lausanne speaking English really shouldn’t be a problem.
exactly. the second language in geneva and Lausanne is english
@Leonardo Viegas This can"t be. Only when she attended the lowest level of education and a while back.
@Leonardo Viegas Well, one of my good friends is from Lausanne and her and her friends English is as good as mine. But there are different people everywhere. ✌🏻
Switzerland is in the worldwide EFI (English Proficiency Index) only at Rank 29. Netherland 1, Germany 10, Austria 3. And the reason why an educated country like Switzerland has that bad result is mainly due to the French speaking part - just like France (Rank 34) ... the German speaking part speaks MUCH better and more English in relation. And everyone how has a bit knowledge about international communities (e.g. online computer games) know that French speaking ppl are usually the ones with 'bad/broken English' just like ppl from Russia or Turkey - which makes team building much more difficult. This does of course not mean that there are not ppl from France or the French speaking part in Switzerland who speak good English, but the amount of ppl is lower comparted to many other countries.
Am I the only one who thinks 400 swiss Francs for a double room is a good deal? In California in most cities (unless you are in the deserted parts) you'll be lucky to spend 800 USD for a small double room.
It is beyond good. I live in a 1.5 bedroom apartment in Zurich and pay Fr. 700.-, and it‘s subsidized as well as student housing.
You will get you own apartment for 1000 Swiss Francs, like a small room outside of the big cities. In Germany you will get 2-3 rooms for 1000 Euros.
@@jeanine8290 Please define Germany: you are going to have a really hard time finding an apartment for 1000EUR in Munich, for example.
@@vasilyaf Thats true, I think she meant cities such as Duesseldorf or Duisburg, Leipzig etc. Munich is an extreme example.
That was brilliant, thank-you girls!!!
I never been to Berlin but I love Switzerland I been there at 2018_2019 it was great experience.
You both seem to be a part of what I would call 'Das Salz in der Suppe' (of Berlin in this case)
Referring to pizza gurl ("sounds like Switzerland is the California of Europe"):
Well, there are big differences especially by each language-region. And actually the culture changes in every valley you go. And there are manny.
Zürich is a mix out of California and NY. Unfriendly, busy and crowded. But clean and "fancy". Clean it is actually everywhere in the german part of CH. Geneva or Lausanne... I avoid! Expensive is every one of the bigger cities we have. For general big price differences, the country is too small. Except the rents. If you check the smaller cities, you get really nice flats for small money (relatively). Aarau for example is much cheaper than Zürich, Geneva or Bern. But why would you move to Aarau beside a cheap apartment?
P.S.
In Switzerland is the area close to the station THE place to be! It's almost impossible to get a flat there you can afford to pay. Dirty Geneva might be a exception.
About the rents I know Bern and there, EVERY flat for 2 people or more, for less than CHF 1'000.--/ month - is crap! But the cheapest ones are anyway almost 1'000.--.
So if you spend like 930.-- you get something no native swiss person would move to, if there is a choice. If you spend a 100.-- more, you can already get something really nice.
So keep that in mind if you ever gonna look for a apartment in CH.
So nice to see people just showing some actual personality. Thank you for this, it was really refreshing.
I’ll just stay living in Washington Hights, it seems to be a lot simpler
We do write swiss german with each other in a casual way. We don't have grammer tho, so just write it how it sounds....
Lots of good info here from you both - vielen dank!
I love Germany 🥰
My dream Country German🌺
Great women. strong women. this video is very very good. I love it.🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
Many many thanks 😊
This lady is so extrovert . I like her
This is really insightful
Thanks for watching 😊
Great Video! I would Love to know what you think about the Work ethic in Zürich compared to Berlin? Is there a difference?
berlin lazy
swiss - hard working, loe taxes
germany - pay a high tax to support all of the druggies who dont want to work
I love this video, the positive vibe is great. How do I relocate to Switzerland?
Ich muss ehrlich sein. Ich werde offen sein. Ich bin Eisenbahnfan UND ein starker Verfechter aller Formen der Elektrifizierung des Verkehrs. Berlin hatte gerade diese schrecklichen Straßenbahnen von Alstom, einem Schienenhersteller in Frankreich, erworben, die, da die ältere Ausrüstung Fenster hatte, um beide Enden zu sehen (wie Frontend-Sicht), wie die beiden anderen elektrischen Schienen in Berlin, die S-Bahn und die U- Bahn haben jetzt sogar die Straßenbahnen diese pechschwarze feste Wand zwischen dem Fahrer in diesem abgerundeten klaren Fenster (Windschutzscheibe), so dass selbst die Straßenbahnen nicht mehr möglich sind, als Passagier vorn zu sehen.
Versteh mich nicht falsch, Berlin ist eine wunderschöne Stadt als Hauptstadt Deutschlands. Viele Dinge zu sehen und zu erleben, aber ich mag die U-Bahn, die S-Bahn oder auch die Straßenbahn nicht, obwohl sie alle elektrisch sind!
Ich nehme an, der Direktor der öffentlichen Verkehrsmittel in Berlin seit der Nachkriegszeit hat Probleme damit, Eisenbahnfans oder der breiten Öffentlichkeit zu erlauben, aus der Vorderseite einer elektrischen Schiene in Berlin zu sehen!
Ich war so am Boden zerstört, dass ich, abgesehen von kurzen Besuchen, nicht glücklich wäre, in Berlin (obwohl es die LGBTQ-Hauptstadt für ganz Europa ist) dauerhaft dort zu leben.
Ich bin in Bern in der Schweiz geboren und aus den Trams in der Schweiz kann man größtenteils vorne heraussehen, Zürich hat diese Fähigkeit auch, verwendet aber immer noch klares Glas mit einem Hauch von Blaustich.
Ich möchte zurück nach Europa ziehen, und Leipzig scheint mir die günstigste Stadt zum Leben in Deutschland zu sein.
Die Straßenbahnen haben durchsichtige Fenster und man kann dort auch über die Schulter des Fahrers nach vorne sehen! Ich glaube, ich wäre in Leipzig glücklich! Ich bin deutsche Schweizer deshalb verstehe die Beiden, Hochdeutsch und Bärndütsch. Man könnte sich die Frage stellen, warum lebst du nicht in deinem Land, der Schweiz?
Antwort in einem Satz: ES IST ZU VERDAMMT TEUER! ICH BIN NICHT UNBEDINGT REICH! (Ich wünschte doch, ich wäre es)!
also als Bahnfan sollte Berlin trotzdem weit interessanter sein. In der Schweiz wie auch in Leipzig gibs ueberhaupt keine vergleichbare U-Bahn oder S-Bahn. Und alles nur von den abgedunkelten Scheiben abhaengig zu machen ist doch reiner Unsinn. Du hast so gut wie nie eine freie Sicht auf den Fahrer in den U-S-Bahnen der Welt (auch nicht in sonstigen Zuegen wie ICE, konventionellen). Und auch in Berlin haengst von den Trams ab, mal davon abgesehen, dass man eh mehr sieht, wenn man nicht auf den Fahrer blickt (egal ob Bus oder Tram), sondern auf der rechten Seite vorbei - was in der Regel geht. Sieht also so aus, dass dich lediglich ein bestimmter Strassenbahntyp stoert. Bei mir ists uebrigens die neue S-Bahn. Ich fand das alte Interieur als auch die Taucherbrillen-Erscheinung besser (aehnlich bei den U-Bahnen, die eher wie Trams aussehen. Mag ich weniger, sieht schlechter aus usw.)
Once you are older and further in your career, you will discover the "miracle" of taxes. That's when Germany becomes tax hell. There are various studies that despite the high prices and the cost of living, on the net side the Swiss have more disposable income. Then again, money is not everything.
@Jean juju Well, I refer to an OECD study that shows clearly that Swiss have considerable more disposable income than Germans after taxes and with the high prices. I have many German friends that seriously disagree with you. But hey, a free world and you can live wherever you want. As for me, I like Germany and the cost of living is a clear advantage. Then again, the German system also has a lot more advantages for freeloaders. You also seem to have a reading disability. I wrote "Then again, money is not everything" and you answer "Not true. Money is not everything." I guess you not being in Switzerland anymore is a win win situation for both sides then. All the best!
@Jean juju Yeah, I bet you would feel more at ease at the "Reichshauptstadtslum" Berlin. Enjoy! I lived 20 years of my life in other countries, in Africa and Latin America. So I am not the "typical Swiss". The perfect country does not exist. Also Switzerland has problems and working poor. The rest all comes down to personal life style, preferences and circumstances. Switzerland is a place where achievements and hard work are still rewarded. But you are absolutely right. To get paid peanuts, give half of it away, but having the work life balance you want, is a personal choice.
@Jean juju Don't waste your time arguing with the paranoid alp folks. They have the horizon of an ant.
@@midas1929 So no other country rewards hardwork and achievements but only Switzerland, right?
@@mellyklint6199 I did not write that anywhere. So I do not know where you read that. There is many countries offering opportunities and rewards. Myself I work with and in Latin America.
Swiss German is a dialect of German. Zurich is not the capital of Switzerland, Bern is called the capital.
No, Switzerland has no capital city.
@@danielmeyer3795 Not de jure but de facto.
The girl representing germany would actually fit in well anywhere because she is very open, rather than complaining about everything. she would also fit in very well in Switzerland (especially in the french speaking part)
"fit in very well" Omg, so people have to be a certain way to fit into Switzerland? Haha why dont you just accept people for who they are, this would bring more variety to the boring Swiss lifestyle.
the French speaking part is btw. the main reason why Switzerland is in the EFI Ranking (English Proficiency Index) only at rank 29. Like France they suck with English (the German part of Switzerland is much better - as the girl in the video correctly mentioned).
Thank you both 💜
Our pleasure!
Als Norddeutscher bin ich manchmal schon in Bayern aufgeschmissen oder muss 3 mal hinhören :D
Nice that you are here🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
Judging from what Stefy says about the two countries, I will go with Germany as well. I mean,I already feel like m so up tight here, and it's worse in Switzerland.... Girlllll....I love Berlin. If freedom was a city,it would be Berlin😅
Thanks for watching. Germany is wonderful but Switzerland also has so much to offer as well. You just have to consider what your end goal is and decide accordingly.
she hasnt lived in Switzerland, she has only been a foreigner there
Munich VS Zurich which is better?
Munich
Zürich has a lake
Munich for sure
if you are a female and like being attacked by asylum seeker men then go to Germany
In switzerland, Zurich isnt the ideal city. Bern is great
@@katjaaaluond4740 Keep quiet
You make amazing tandem. :) Very nice video indeed.
Pls I need to fast reply about This how can I apply for Swiss university for my post graduate diploma. My father is a citizen of Switzerland but I live in Nigeria
Check online
Swistzerland government about migration for students
but the income is also much higher than in Germany
True
But it is more boring in Switzerland. Switzerland is too boring to be that expensive. And money does not bring you happiness. I am way more happier in Berlin than I was in Zurich.
Stop that "high swiss income" propaganda. It's so annoying! 80% swiss are average or even below-average earners. Only a tiny minority (probably 10-20%) really earn high salaries. If salaries are so high in Switzerland why does it according to statistics have the lowest home ownership rate in Europe? The typical swiss worker might earn averagely higher than his counterpart in neighboring countries but at the end of the day has less in the pocket due to their extortionate price levels be it rent, food, clothing, entertainment, healthcare.
@@yogamazing5941 Exactly! The swiss are so full of themselves but they are nothing but corporate workers being constantly milked by their own government. It's just that the banking system over there attracts very high net worth individuals and multinational firms. It's always rumored to be a "rich" country but actually refers to the group of wealthy individuals that reside there. The swiss in fact are not living better or larger than other europeans but strangely have an exaggerated sense of self-importance due to complexities and the false narratives attached to their tiny country.
@@valwesle8509 I totally agree. I know many expats in Switzerland who wanted to buy a house but 1 million Swiss Francs does not bring you far, maybe on the country side but maybe not where you want to buy and live. In their home countries, they would get a huge house for the same amount or even two houses :D
Hello everyone.Thanks for the video.What about sport?In which country is it easy?
What kind of sport?
Amazing ... It made me laugh
Thanks for watching. 😊
Intelligent and funny girls. I really enjoyed your video :)
Most Germans think swiss people are talking swiss german, when they actually try to speak high german. "Isch gut gsi" "(Es) ist gut gewesen (gsi). It was good.
@Panos Raf Yes, with swiss relatives I learned to understand when they were speaking swiss german.
it depends on the canton
my swiss friends speak to me in high german
i cant understand them when they speak in dialect
Why is the girl not tagged?? What is her name and social media??
Does she have a RUclips channel?
wow, I am binge watching your videos and I love your content
Watching from Philippines 🇵🇭 :)
this really seems like Switzerland is very bad which isnt truth at all.
Switzerland is not bad at all. It just depends on what you want. The comparison between Zuerich/Switzerland and Berlin is also kind of extreme. Berlin is also compared to Germany a bit different. And the stereotypes between Munich and Berlin are quite similar. People who prefer Southern Germany/Austria over Berlin are likely also prefer Switzerland over Berlin and the opposite. Different ways of life ...
Berlin makes people from third world countries feel more accepted@@publicminx
@@publicminx Zurich is the worst city in Switzerland :/ Too many rich Buenzlis The only truly nice region in Switzerland is Ticino with kind-hearted and warm people.
It is bad. The people are aggressive and play police all the time.
i'm still on a way learning Swiss-German
which passport is more worth the Swiss or European union
i asked that question couple of times to myself at the airport because even in Zürich the line doesnt seem to move faster iwhen you are swiss :D
the german one for sure
I feel like the ecuatorian girl didn't get a very good experience living in Switzerland. I feel like she looks back at those days with pain in the chest, she's not being objective. I believe everyone has to have her/his own opinion.
So what's your point? That nobody should have a bad experience in Switzerland?
@@mellyklint6199 my point is: if you are considering moving to Switzerland, take into consideration that this girl obviously didn't have a good time there. She talks like everything in that country is bad, and that Germany is way better. So, she's not actually giving an objetctive point of view. I mean, everyone has his/her own opinions based on experiences; she didn't have a good one but that doesn't mean the country is all wrong
@@giulianaclerc3416 That's because when it comes to Switzerland many people like to exaggerate and put up a facade in order to give a wrong impression. She was actually being objective and truthful with her opinion unlike some imbeciles who say stuff just to please the crowd. Many people (mainly foreign residents and the expat group) like her have had similar bad experiences and are speaking out on other platforms, if you care to know.
@@giulianaclerc3416 Being objective does not mean she is wrong about the stuff she is talking about, being objective means to have an OWN opinion and to not follow the crowd as many Swiss people do.
Guiliana: no. The point here is rather that comparing Zurich/Switzerland with Berlin is kinda extreme. You had similar results if you compare Munich to Berlin. If you are younger, more outgoing, like to meet thousand ppl, run into thousand things everyday then of course Berlin is way more attractive. If you prefer a slightly different way of life then Southern Germany, Austria or Switzerland is more interesting. Or more gradient: other parts of Germany ...
Waleochronicles is a lovely girl
Ja
this illustrates the intelligence of this girl in relation to her knowledge of the two countries.
this is her response to my comment about trains being late in Switzerland . her response talks for itself🙄
„ Comdeia Divina
Have you ever heard of Deutschland Bahn?? 😅
il y a 5 jours
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sounds like Switzerland is the California of Europe
California is even more expensive :D But has a more relaxed lifestyle.
the swiss are hard working (democratic)
there are a lot if people who are bludgers in Germany (it is a social state)
trains are often late and cancelled in Switzerland and dont run after 1am
no i haven’t actually
have you never caught a train ?
I didn't know that Swiss German was quite different from German in Germany. So many weirdos in Berlin or what?
the latino is arrogant, no wonder the Swiss didnt like her, she should return to her home country
@@katjaaaluond4740 She is not, she is telling the truth about Swiss people. They are rude and xenophobic.
Germany over Switzerland anyday.
@G M you never was in Switzerland right?
The kitchen is level and you have job opportunities as well, but you must be high educated. We have lower taxes than Germany. The landscape in Germany is better, really? What you call a mountain is just a hill in Switzerland and our lakes are bluer than the heaven in Germany.
@G M Baden-Würrtemberg is very simular to Switzerland, but don't forget, Switzerland is older than Germany. Better job opportunities is not true, a lot of this jobs in Germany are underpaid. I mean 450€ per month is absolutely disastrous.
@G M the age is important because you said, Germany is more cultural than Switzerland.
Second, 1600€ per month is absolutely bullsh*t. Look at the social carta of Germany, what happens there, when someone loses his job. The social carta in Switzerland is much better.
And, we never attacked an other country (ok, not in the last 150 years), Germany started two WWs (and lost both 😂). We are the only country in the world with the direct democracy, so the real power comes from the people, not from politicians. Is Germany still better?
We are not perfect, of course not, nobody is perfect, but we are unique.
@@tomhan100 Lmao you seem to be a delusional Swiss nationalist who can't come to grip with the fact that Germany is significantly better than Switzerland. First of all, your claim about 450 Euros per month is absolute BS. Even Balkan countries have higher average monthly salary than that, let alone Germany. Average monthly salary in Germany currently stands at 2560 Euros. Secondly Germany is culturally richer than Switzerland(by far), has friendlier and more open people, larger job market, stronger workers protection, more diverse landscapes ( literally everything you can find it CH you can find in Baden Württemberg), much better cuisine and is in the EU. Finally, you never attacked anyone because a) you would be crushed by your larger neighbours if you attempted to do that and b) because European powers have imposed neutrality on you in 1815, Vienna Congress. THe only reason why Germany never invaded you is because you are small, landlocked and strategically insignificant country that was perfectly willing to play ball with the Nazis. Not to mentioned you massively profited of the WW2 by stealing Jewish possesions and have redirected them back to Germany when they tried to cross your borders so you might want to get off your high horse before mentioning history.
@@JC-to5by i'm not a nationalist, but i will defend my country against lies. Like yours. I did not say, Switzerland is better than Germany, i think both countries are very close.
So, don't talk about our culture, when you know nothing about Switzerland. Did you know, that Switzerland is the oldest democracy in Europe, that still exists? You know what direct democracy is? We have it and it means, that the power comes from the people.
Germans are friendlier and more open? Thats unfortunately true.
um
she hasnt really lived in Switzerland. she has just been a foreigner there.
Just stop..
maybe you stop
you have no idea about Switzerland
you dont even know what the national train service in Germany is called
and you were never integrated in Switzerland
@@katjaaaluond4740 You have no idea about me.. stop making assumptions..
You are saying things that relate to you
You were not integrated into the Swiss society
That is your problem, you expect others to love you
You are nothing
You don’t even know that in the french speaking parts that English is spoken by most people
And you think that the German train company is called « Deutschland Bahnh »
Oh my god
Your brain is so small
You post videos expecting people to love you
But when they give an honest response that you don’t like then you lash out
You are not a star.
Get over yourself
The girl representing Germany is much more intelligent, mature and likable than you
In Switzerland people who are arrogant like you are not welcome. The girl representing Germany would however be liked everywhere because she is open and not arrogant . She would be welcome in Switzerland and make a lot of friends.
I am from America BUT I did my 23 and me dna and it came back 78.8% grisons switzerland and baden wuttemburg germany! I'm both lol
Hı how are you telesha?
@@amerikadakhklibirogretmen77 good , how r you ?
@@TELESHARICE thanks do you Live in Amerika,?
@@amerikadakhklibirogretmen77 I do live in America 🇺🇸
@@TELESHARICE are you student telesha? How can i write you.have you göt instgram?
as a non german speaking (non integrated) foreigner you only get the shit accommodation.
zurich isnt Switzerland. it is its own country.
the second language in Geva and Lausanne is english.
Zurich is not it’s own country.
@@ilovesuisse1 it was a figure of speech i think
This is really interessting as a Swiss.😂
She exagerates! You can find a cheap supermarket like Aldi, Lidl and buy a medium good quality shampoo for 4 swiss francs!!
@@angiehuber1911 4 swiss francs is still too expensive.. SMH
There are some really great insights in this video, but please try and control the laughing😉
Switzerland is a very highly rule bound, but consequently very respectful, country. The infrastructure, and especially the public transport, is superb, second to none. There are so many outdoors activities at all times of the year. But yes, don't expect the Western ideal of a 24/7 culture. Even in the main urban areas, there is a lot of respect for people having quality time with family or whatever they choose, rather than being worked to the bone.
Switzerland is no paradise, dont even try to portray it as the perfect country. It is boring, racist and arrogant. Never have been to a place where so many people walk around with sad and judging faces.
Visit Bayern, Ostfriesland, Sachsen then tell us again about German dialects. ha ha ha
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The best of Switzerland is Roger Federer and Peter Müller 👍
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Just for your information Swiss German Also a written language so don't ever say we don't write Swiss German because we do
Ooh, somebody's a bit sensitive xD
it's not standardised everyone writes it their own way, it's impossible to make a "standart swiss german" because regional dialects are very different
What nonsense, Marco Willi. Swiss-German is a set of dialects and these are most definitely not a literary language. One of the four national languages of Switzerland is German, i.e. High German, and not any of the dialects.
Yeah Bavarian is a written dialect too, just as Swiss German. Its a German dialect and not a language. Bavarian is very different from standard German but its still German, same goes for Swiss German. I have a Swiss mum and a Bavarian dad so I know both are written differently with some sort of grammar, but it doesnt count as a real language.
What you are trying to say at 3:26 is “it was good” es isch guet gsi, germans say es war gut, and “no idea” is kei anig, in german it is keine Ahnung.
A smattering of platitudes in Pidgin English. Underwhelming.
as a third country national you will have zero chance at getting a permit for long term employment in Switzerland (unfortunately- as they have an EU regulation that favors EU citizens)
Germany - since march 2020 everyone has an equal right to a job ( since the asylum seekers who were prioritized over non EU people didnt end up being brain surgeons and dont want to work and Germany needs workers)
so for that sole reason, Germany wins
and for the much better variety of food
on all other factors Switzerland wins
Don’t waste ur time to learn German, because out of Switzerland or Germany, this language is useless. I am sure u will be fed up soon or later to leave the country.
OR... you could demonstrate your interest in their country and culture by trying, and you'll have a better experience if you can understand the language
So basically any other language which is not English is a waste of time? Wow, you are a welcomed immigrant everywhere.
@@Rondo2ooo What he's basically saying is that english is more widely accepted internationally than german or french.
I am very glad you two beautiful girls are happy. But hard to understand you because you talk too fast and laugh too much.
I think the girl on the left isn't very talented in foreign languagues. I have an Irish friend who attended a Swiss German course in Zurich and after two months she spoke it like a native speaker. This might be extreme but just to show you that everything is possible. 👍🏻
I just spoke high german because I knew that already, but when I switched schools I immediatly spoke Swiss German
Switzerland: each canton is very different.
Geneva - international, muggings
Lausanne - very international, risk of mugging in some places, high crime
Zurich - arrogant people. also a lot of international people
Bern - friendly mix of people, swiss and international
Argau - lower social class (because of cheaper housing)
Zug - small community of international people (who learn english rather than german)
Lucern - a lot of arabs / muslim men, too many chinese tourists
Schwyz - the first canton and very traditional - you are expected to greet everyone and there are a lot of parades of cows decorated with bells and flowers
Ticino - very latino / italian
Basel - full of prostitutes, criminals, zigeuners (Romanian Gypsies), transvestites. Popular with germans who live in Freiburg DE.
Advantages
- awesome hiking
- cheaper universities than in Germany
- people are more reserved (you are welcome if you dont make a big noise)
- ability to talk and vote about things
- free food on trees, you can have your own vegie garden
- free housing if you are integrated (i have my own house in the mountains)
- you make good lasting friendships, rather than superficial friendships
- very cheap train tickets (if you are integrated you know where to find these)
disadvantages
- trains are often cancelled or stop running halfway through their journey (due to electrical problems, avalanches on the track, problems in border countries - italy)
- lack of variety of food. and when it is marked down because it is basically inedible then it is still twice the price if nice fresh food in germany
- trains stop running at around midnight
Germany
- has changed a lot
- very difficult to get cheap housing now
- university fees have increased significantly
- too many muslim men (as a white female with blond hair I am always stared at)
- even old ladies complain about the asylum seeker men asking them for sex on a daily basis and not understanding the meaning of the words „no, never“
- a social state where there are a lot of people who never work (they spend their lives taking drugs, smoking etc)
advantages of germany
- great variety of food
- cheaper food
- trains that run 24/7
- awesome water parks and adventure parks !
- cheap swimming pools
disadvantages of germany
- safety is now a big issue
- has returned to the DDR
- university fees skyrocketed for international students
- lack of housing
- no mountains , no places like Switzerland has to go hiking
- they have cancelled their cheap express train deals
- some germans are very arrogant and aggressive against the swiss. (the swiss will just walk away)
- old germany was great. but new germany is sadly not as great
- swimming areas are now no longer safe for females
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What about the German Alpen?? Bavaria is Germany 😂