NEW Boss IR-200 Amp Simulator - Is It Better Than The Strymon Iridium?

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  • Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
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    Believe it or not, the new Boss IR-200 allows you to have classic Fender, Marshall & Vox type tones in one pedal! The IR-200 is loaded with over 150 high quality cab impulse responses from Boss and Celestion Digital. There are also an additional 128 slots for loading your own IRS too! The IR-200 is also packed with a host of useful stereo effects including modulation, delay and reverb, allowing you to add those finishing touches to your tone.
    So knowing all this, we had to compare this new beast to the Strymon Iridium, one of the best selling amp simulator of all time!
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    » 0:00 Intro Jam
    » 1:48 What are We Looking at Today?
    » 3:49 What is the Boss IR-200?
    » 6:32 Let's Take a Listen to the First Preset!
    » 8:53 Moving on to Preset 2
    » 11:19 Preset 3
    » 13:10 Preset 4
    » 14:24 Preset 5
    » 16:29 What do the Knobs do?
    » 17:25 Back to Preset 6
    » 18:52 Preset 007
    » 21:52 Preset 8
    » 23:18 Let's Try the Bass Presets!
    » 26:25 Boss IR-200 vs Strymon Iridium
    » 34:07 Thoughts?
    » 36:00 Lee Tries the Boss IR-200
    » 39:48 Conclusion Time
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  • @BobCrosley
    @BobCrosley 2 года назад +223

    I saw a rig rundown with Nita Strauss that is changing how I look at modelers. She said that if you spend your time trying to get the model of a JCM 800 to sound exactly like a JCM 800, you’ll never get there, and you’ll just make yourself crazy and be disappointed with your sound. Instead, just find a sound you like, and don’t worry about what it’s supposed to sound like, just get the most out of how it sounds.

    • @geoffmartin4541
      @geoffmartin4541 2 года назад +15

      Which is why I continue to find use with my DigiTech RP255.

    • @Reportageandart
      @Reportageandart 2 года назад +8

      Agreed.... Or just use the JCM 800 :) If you can't, then accept nothing will be like it...

    • @coupe-lee
      @coupe-lee 2 года назад +7

      This is 100% how I feel about some of the content on That Pedal Show. Every once in a while they’ll get gear claiming to do the same thing as the original. Often times these products do a really good job, but they always realize it’s not the same thing by the end. Duh! A “not a JCM 800” or [whatever piece of gear your thinking of] will always not be the thing you’re wanting it to be.
      I wish these demos would focus more on the pros and cons of the units instead of comparing to the original pieces of gear they are supposed to emulate.

    • @rangerdoc1029
      @rangerdoc1029 2 года назад +5

      Ironically, there's something in tube distortion that I don't like. A high end crackle or sizzle. Unfortunately all modellers add that in for the sake of authenticity.

    • @indagdnm
      @indagdnm Год назад +1

      She's totally right. In the end if it's a usable sound that you like that's all that matters. I have been a pro guitarists for 30 years and I have guitars that I know I love and yet in one or two live venues they just didn't sound good. So now I just listen and tweak things until the sound is something I can use.

  • @dykeneuk
    @dykeneuk 2 года назад +39

    I sold my iridium and bought the ir200. Because the boss has an FX loop, extra foot switch option to boost solos and because it can be used as sound card device. The clean sounds are more varied too.

    • @PianoandCoffee
      @PianoandCoffee 2 года назад +1

      How’s it been to you tone wise? Is similar better or worse?

    • @Reportageandart
      @Reportageandart 2 года назад +4

      Yeah... I agree... the fact that you can't go from the Iridium to the computer or have FX loop has me thinking about the switch to the IR200. So long as it sounds good.

    • @robertscorpio8432
      @robertscorpio8432 2 месяца назад +1

      I would like to see a unit from Roland with Cab IR's and EFX only - for use with Preamp outs from Amps / Tube guitar Preamps etc . asba professional studio device with great reverbs and EFX and the ability to use 2 IRs simultaneously in parallel [ left and right with pan control ] OR in SERIES - because two IR's in series give additional filtering and smoothness which is needed sometimes.

  • @ProfVonW
    @ProfVonW 2 года назад +55

    I think Andertons is the only guitar vendor where the owner does his own demoing, and does so with very credible playing. And of course Pete is brilliant as always!

    • @AbcDino843
      @AbcDino843 2 года назад +5

      Peach Guitars?

    • @jjbast
      @jjbast Год назад +1

      He wants to be the star on his own channel. He does it well!

    • @MeTuLHeD
      @MeTuLHeD Год назад

      P

    • @RockG.o.d
      @RockG.o.d Год назад

      It’s why I only shop at Anderson’s. Plus they have a big store with a shit ton of equipment you can try.

    • @JAHDUBProductions
      @JAHDUBProductions 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@RockG.o.d I'd shop there if I lived over there. I have no local music store and ordering everything online is annoying.

  • @johnladdsmusic
    @johnladdsmusic 2 года назад +13

    I bought the iridium and started seeing all these comparisons to the ir200…I promptly exchanged it for the Boss and wow it’s fantastic! There’s nothing wrong with either one, but Boss offers a lot more for roughly the same price. I never thought I’d be able to get a live amp sound from my PA like I’m now getting. I love my amps, but for smaller rooms and/or when you need lower stage volume it’s the perfect solution for someone like me who’s heavily invested in pedals; making a kemper or Helix complete overkill. And I haven’t even begun to wrap my mind around all the ir’s and recording capabilities!

  • @jaymzleutz
    @jaymzleutz Год назад

    The best review video, for sure! All the knobs, subtleties, comparison to iridium. All here! Thank you, guys!

  • @geralr
    @geralr 2 года назад +64

    I agree with Pete’s comment that there should be a shootout between the modelers and the modelees, same for the tone master series, etc

    • @Theaquaponic12345678
      @Theaquaponic12345678 2 года назад

      TPS already did a Tone master shootout. Others as well but yeah.

    • @ivorharden
      @ivorharden 2 года назад +2

      I've always wanted to hear a Marshall code 100 JCM800 patch vs an actual JCM800.

    • @Theaquaponic12345678
      @Theaquaponic12345678 2 года назад +3

      @@ivorharden lol

    • @jmabs5096
      @jmabs5096 2 года назад +5

      @@ivorharden Marshal code is absolutely the worst sounding modeler.... Marshal should be ashamed of putting it's name on that pile of garbage. Your closer to a JCM800 sound through a boss katana patch.

    • @ivorharden
      @ivorharden 2 года назад +1

      @@jmabs5096 have you actually used one? For us who do use it, we can get good tones. It's an amp which needs to be dialed in and cranked unlike the Katana which is plug and go.

  • @Redpepper917
    @Redpepper917 2 года назад +4

    Thank you Andertons for a world of education on guitar gear! I am always well informed by these videos.

  • @mralgebro
    @mralgebro 2 года назад +10

    I have the iridium. I always use pedals with it though so it’s just to get an edge of breakup tone to play from. I like the fender setting best actually. It seems to take pedals and different guitars well. But I love an amp better any day. Great video as always!

    • @gregmize01
      @gregmize01 2 года назад

      Are using it for recording exclusively?

  • @davelouis4004
    @davelouis4004 2 года назад +8

    Some comments I’ve heard hear are saying the Ir 200 is thin , everything looks to be at 12:00 , so the bottom end as other frequencies can be adjusted ! The Boss IR200 has many possibilities, a winner for me !

    • @ampcruz2540
      @ampcruz2540 2 года назад

      I know thats right sir !!!

  • @XENONEZZ2
    @XENONEZZ2 9 месяцев назад

    Brilliant playing from Pete as usual !!..😊

  • @andyhinds542
    @andyhinds542 Год назад +1

    These videos are well worth watching just for the amazing guitar playing. I wish I could play like that.

  • @rafito1280
    @rafito1280 2 года назад

    I use emulated sound in churches to FOH with my Bass. The main trick is using a Active DI to boost the signal to the board after you dial in your tone in you pedal. Sending a hot signal to the board help to get that moving air feeling that the amp produce. Also use a FRFR speaker combine with the FOH tone do wonders.

  • @denverdave12
    @denverdave12 2 года назад +25

    The reverb on the Boss is nice, but I think Strymon is assuming you will be using an external reverb pedal most of the time to compensate for that. Very well done demo though....thanks guys!

    • @nedim_guitar
      @nedim_guitar 2 года назад +2

      I'm so going to use my Boss IR-200 with my pedalboard, including the reverb pedal, for silent recording in the evenings!

    • @KodyXXVll
      @KodyXXVll 2 года назад +4

      yes but you can't insert the reverb where it belongs with the iridium, in between the amp and cab. with the boss you can. also iridium does not have the option to combine different amps and cabs for two different stereo outputs. you're stuck with the same output L and R.

  • @jakobrinman1134
    @jakobrinman1134 2 года назад

    As always, thank you for an awesome video!

  • @gregmize01
    @gregmize01 2 года назад

    This was an enlightening video...great job!

  • @paulsonn1308
    @paulsonn1308 2 года назад +39

    Just bought another guitar from you guys today. Keep up the good work. I know the RUclips videos cost money to make and are free but I've definitely shopped more from you guys because if it, and I'm sure there are plenty of ppl like myself doing the same

    • @Thumbii
      @Thumbii 2 года назад +4

      I would have bought all my new gear from Andertons were it not for Brexit and me being from Sweden.. But I sure do use their videos when deciding what to get :D

    • @simonk833
      @simonk833 2 года назад +1

      Bought my first from them the other day (I'm in Australia) but unfortunately they sent me the wrong one. It happens, they must have hundreds going out all the time, but I must admit I'm a little nervous that a) they still have the specific guitar I chose and it hasn't gone to someone else and b) they're able to get it to me and hopefully cover the costs, as it cost an arm and a leg (for me) in customs duties. All that said, I bought from them purely because of this channel and I wanted to support them, love your work guys :)

    • @simonk833
      @simonk833 2 года назад +2

      Just replying to this as Andertons were fantastic about it and got the correct guitar sent to me with very minimal fuss :)

  • @benlogan430
    @benlogan430 2 года назад +5

    I like the Terror Stamp myself. Small, inexpensive, sounds good and super easy!

    • @oneandonlyarajivp
      @oneandonlyarajivp Год назад

      hi, i have the terror stamp too. Glad to hear someone else actually mentioning this gem of a pedal. How are you then recording from this to your daw? I'm struggling with this. I've tried the torpedo cab m+ and that's too noisy. I'm about to try the iridium and i'm looking at the dream65. I've also considered micing my cab (orange 1x8 ppc108) but there's no way i can setup a decent mic system for that tiny amp). What are you using? thanks

  • @thetruthexperiment
    @thetruthexperiment 2 года назад +8

    I just obtained this pedal today. My finger tips haven’t felt more destroyed in years. Just plugging in the headphones is a joy. I have to say. This is a God send. I will certainly augment my finished songs with mic’d amps but I can sure as heck demo and prep with this pedal like crazy. The last amp modeler I had was from 1999. This is eons better and it gives me new life. I love and damn if it doesn’t look way better than the iridium. I love it.

  • @lyleanderson5407
    @lyleanderson5407 2 года назад +3

    Tons of choices for IRs. Not sure I would get the value out of a dedicated IR when most newer multi effects already have them built in. Great Demo but I agree with Pete about comparing
    the IR to the real deal.

  • @mariomazza9235
    @mariomazza9235 2 года назад +1

    I’ve tried them all, all the latest floor modellers thinking I could replace my Marshall valve amp by plugging one of these digital boxes into a powered cab or pa. Unfortunately, they all suffer from the same thing when you turn up the gain ,a thin and buzzy sound that you just can’t dial out. I fell for the hype and bought a few of them but they are now collecting dust. On a positive note thought I would try just once more and bought a secondhand Kemper .Loaded it with professionally made profiles and haven’t looked back, nothing comes close for feel and sound, it’s not perfect but it’s the closest yet and it’s nearly 10 years old. Pete nailed it when he said they don’t really sound like the real thing, bravo for your honesty.

    • @ampcruz2540
      @ampcruz2540 2 года назад

      If I bought a high dollar modeler or digital amp ,,,I would never pay for so called pro. Profiles ,,,,no way I'd rather make my own bad ass tones with it ,,,that is part of the fun for me anyway ,,, but anyway I see what u mean because the Kemper is unique and like no other

  • @christopher7310
    @christopher7310 2 года назад

    Good morning/afternoon gents! Lovely intro as always. Hope all is well and awesome for you both

  • @alanredversangel
    @alanredversangel 2 года назад +11

    The Boss Natural preamp has been the secret weapon on their units for years. You can do everything with it.

  • @nedim_guitar
    @nedim_guitar 2 года назад +2

    What about running a pedalboard through the Boss IR-200, with overdrive, distortion and fuzz, a Uni-Vibe, delay, reverb...? That would be very helpful to me, because I would like to record with my pedalboard silently (evenings is almost the only time I have for recording).

  • @Mesa3077Boogie
    @Mesa3077Boogie 2 года назад +2

    This pedal has changed my practicing life. I'm playing so so so much more now that I can just plug some headphones in or even use the headphone Jack and play through a JBL speaker. For what it is it's amazing and absolutely worth every penny I would highly recommend this.

    • @jonthehermit8082
      @jonthehermit8082 Год назад

      I’m using for my live rig, plugged into the power section of a boss katana lol and one line to the pa, sounds great, my heavy amps are gathering dust.

    • @stevosmusic
      @stevosmusic Год назад

      I have Hx stomp and some just plug into my interface and jam through my studio monitors. And when I gig no amp to haul around. So great

  • @acevedoa89
    @acevedoa89 2 года назад +8

    I like how Cap's Tele is just like a third host hanging off to the side.

  • @michaelfrancis1
    @michaelfrancis1 2 года назад

    Cheers from Texas!
    🤘😎🤘
    Long time fan.
    Thanks ever-so-much.
    M

  • @MusicWizard85
    @MusicWizard85 2 года назад +8

    $400 Boss IR-200 or $200 Guitar Rig 6?!
    It would be cool to see you guys do a blind comparison between the popular modelers: Helix (full or Stomp), Headrush (full or MX5), Fractal FM9 (or FM3), Boss GT 1000 (or 1000 Core), etc.

  • @BramMouse
    @BramMouse 2 года назад +20

    I did really like the clean sound but the gainy presets are a little bit thin i think.

    • @alanredversangel
      @alanredversangel 2 года назад +1

      Probably easy to fix. Also if you're using a pa speaker those things have a lot of bass so it probably cancels out.

  • @peterschaefer1665
    @peterschaefer1665 2 года назад

    I don't know what your hearing there but your drive pedals sound really good through the Boss.

  • @GaborUdvarhelyi
    @GaborUdvarhelyi 2 года назад +24

    It would be interesting to load the same IR on both units, choose the same amp and then do the comparison again.

  • @liontone
    @liontone 2 года назад +7

    Iridium for me. The IR has “more,” but I think the Iridium is more straight forward, and faster. The Fender tone in the Iridium can be unlocked with a boost pedal. I know, it’s cheating, but it works.

  • @l3yfajamz
    @l3yfajamz Год назад

    Would this type of pedal amp work with a focusrite scarlet or would the output be too much for it to handle, as using a real amp to record mic’d up is a big no go where I live lol so I’m looking for a quieter alternative to get creative with home recording?. Great demo as always thanks 🤘🤘🇬🇧

  • @riccardogiuliani1045
    @riccardogiuliani1045 10 месяцев назад

    Ciao bel video. Solo una domanda: per richiamare i preset in un contesto live è indispensabile scorrere in alto ed in basso con i due comandi?? C'è un modo per richiamarli con un unico click?

  • @daseinoseven4514
    @daseinoseven4514 2 года назад

    Maybe I’m missing something, but do I really need to turn on the effects loop for every sim? Is there a global setting for the send return? It only seems to save to the current memory slot?!?

  • @vnvtraining7203
    @vnvtraining7203 2 года назад +2

    I owned the Iridium, returned it after about 7 days of trying to use it with my DAW, the noise was terrible 😞 so I returned it. I only liked one amp and cab sound sound that was usable with pedals. At $497 CDN you are better off finding a lunch box tube amp and use that with pedals…the Boss looks interesting but I’m back to using 🎙 microphones for guitar recording. I would consider the the REVV D20 that has twonotes built in…

  • @cbeserra
    @cbeserra 2 года назад

    Sometimes I forget how awesomely musical Pete is when just messing around.

  • @scize
    @scize 2 года назад +11

    BOSS seems to be more responsive to your picking than IRIDIUM but doesnt' have both lowend and topend. My choice will be ACS-1.

  • @user-ry9hl9lx7e
    @user-ry9hl9lx7e Год назад

    I have a plethora X5 and the Boss OD-200 Hybrid Drive Pedal could I just get this and plug it into my two Genelec 8010A monitors? And that’s it… no amp, no messing around?

  • @erikkorhonen
    @erikkorhonen Год назад

    what is that gold relic'd offset hanging there with the mini humbuckers and 2 white knobs??

  • @ArenaPAsys
    @ArenaPAsys 2 года назад

    Any idea how the 1 plug Stereo Return works? I have a Boss DD-200/Golden Reverberator and do I need a separate Y shaped TS-to-TRS connector to get the most out of their stereo functions?

  • @jamesrick7474
    @jamesrick7474 Год назад

    Can either of these be plug straight into a 2x12 or 4x12? Would you need a pre amp?

  • @mcnasty3303
    @mcnasty3303 2 года назад +1

    Need some help here guys, so i can use an IR by plugging my guitar into the IR out to headphones or my amp? Thanks in advance!!

  • @normaljeans908
    @normaljeans908 2 года назад

    Could one use this pedal as a normal pedal connected between the guitar and the amplifier? No computer to add Ir's or what ever. Effects and built in ir's only. Thank you. good show.

  • @Gabetorres1976
    @Gabetorres1976 Год назад +1

    Can you hook up Overdrive pedals pre IR-200 and effect pedals via the effects loop and all the pedal sounds will carry over to the computer?

    • @leal77
      @leal77 9 месяцев назад

      Yes

  • @xxmanx1
    @xxmanx1 2 года назад +1

    I could see the use for this but agree with Pete that it would be gig ready with delay and (i add) chorus. I could get by with just that and so can many. The Mooer 200 includes effects but it's bigger with less connectivity and harder to navigate presets...but someone is gonna nail the right combination im sure..

  • @paulhurt839
    @paulhurt839 2 года назад +7

    This is so difficult. I think Iridium sounds great, but as a tool for recording quickly and conveniently in a home setting, the IR200 has a lot going for it. It has a broader range of tone, and as for those scratchy presets, I just wouldn't use them. The effects loop is an important addition (eg for adding a spring reverb where it's meant to be - before the cab). And I'd def get a lot of use out of those bass amp models. I also think people forget what a mic'd amp actually sounds and feels like over control room monitors - those crapping on the Boss here might find that it's much closer to that experience than they realise. On the other hand, i just want to eat those Iridium sounds up. I'd have to sit down for a couple of hours and compare them side-by-side before making a decision. Or just hang on in the hope that Strymon have a more versatile, programmable modeller on the way. They'd be crazy not to have one in development, the question is how long you would be prepared to wait for a product that may never arrive?

    • @DapperHesher
      @DapperHesher Год назад

      " I also think people forget what a mic'd amp actually sounds and feels like over control room monitors"
      Tough to forget when that's exactly how every recording works. It's just the difference between guys who like to play guitar and guys who actually want to make music.

    • @paulhurt839
      @paulhurt839 Год назад +1

      @@DapperHesher A huge proportion of guitar players spend all their time either rehearsing or playing gigs, and only occasionally hear their rig mic’d up over monitors (and probably never over really good monitors). They’re making music, just differently. It’s not surprising that when they hear a modeller thru a pair of 5” KRK Rokits they think it’s nothing like their 4 x 12, or even a 1 x 12 combo.

  • @Zeinzu2
    @Zeinzu2 2 года назад

    This just goes to show, modern equipment (across the board) is so EFF'N good. There is no loser, or winner for that matter here. I might get both.

  • @Mesa3077Boogie
    @Mesa3077Boogie 2 года назад +4

    All of the amp sounds are SO dependent on which cab and mic choice you use so anything can sound good. it's really hard to make a purchase decision based off the video but I can there is definitely something in there for everyone.

  • @josealaras9191
    @josealaras9191 2 года назад +1

    I love Strymon but the Boss IR-200 has Aux In and goes directly to your laptop without having to go thru an interface first. Both sound great tho!

  • @bangermetal09
    @bangermetal09 10 месяцев назад

    Talking about the Quality of the amps sound, the ir200 is it better than the gt1000 core?

  • @jmabs5096
    @jmabs5096 2 года назад +1

    18:35 a super rare sighting as the Danish tiger claws it's way through unfimlar territory.... 😂 what a sight!

  • @philelrod603
    @philelrod603 8 месяцев назад

    Have any of you recorded with these units into your DAW? Clean sound...I don't play overdrive or distortion...

  • @Musicislife668
    @Musicislife668 4 месяца назад

    Can you use the Boss IR 200 and the Iridium at the same time? Like a dual amp setup.

  • @gtmuse329A
    @gtmuse329A 2 года назад +1

    I am always going direct through a multi use pedal board and am looking forward to the Boss as I can set up patches for Jazz, Rock, acoustic guitar modeling, bass, etc. all in one unit. The eq options are great too because I find, whichever modeler I’m using, eq can really fill in any sonic “holes”.

  • @tripledistilled2822
    @tripledistilled2822 2 года назад +1

    I like a lot of what Pete is saying on this.

  • @Youtuberkit7
    @Youtuberkit7 4 месяца назад

    I’m buying the boss now thanks for the demo

  • @bruiserdan
    @bruiserdan 2 года назад +1

    Lee's face at 0:33 cracks me up!

  • @Wurmt0ngue
    @Wurmt0ngue 2 года назад

    Very sleek nice looking little box

  • @erikzen1
    @erikzen1 2 года назад +1

    I use the Ampli-Firebox with bass. I use the Bassman model and load an Ampeg 4x10 cab IR.

  • @stefano.cavallaro
    @stefano.cavallaro 2 года назад +23

    The sound of Boss IR-200 is at times thin, at times compressed, sometimes harsh. The iridium sounds way more natural.

  • @johnmchakeres
    @johnmchakeres Год назад

    WOW dood has chops lol, and it sounds pretty good through the cab sim.

  • @davidramos4317
    @davidramos4317 2 года назад +2

    I own the IR and I’ll say that the Strymon sounds great. For exactly the same price with the boss you get an effects loop and the ability to make presets plus it does have more amps. It’s really a toss up and both are great.

    • @coupe-lee
      @coupe-lee 2 года назад

      I’m looking at both, plus the Walrus ACS1. I’ve heard of noise issues with the IR-200. Has that been an issue in your experience?
      I’ve heard that swapping out the impulse responses for the same/similar quality ones on the Strymon makes all the difference in sound, but people also say that the analog preamp is what makes the difference.

  • @christophertaylor1671
    @christophertaylor1671 2 года назад

    I would like to see a sampling rate comparison between amp cab modelers. I understand that the Boss IR 200 boasts a 96k sampling rate, which is double that of most others.

  • @BCTGuitarPlayer
    @BCTGuitarPlayer 2 года назад

    I’ll never trade in my Mesa dual rectifier reco-verb 25. Of course I’m an old codger that never gigs anymore but nothing sounds like my little amp head, packed with tubes and I’ve had all kinds of tube & ss amps. Anyway, fun to watch.

  • @6stringsandapick
    @6stringsandapick 2 года назад +8

    Wish you guys carried Quilter and tested out their pedalboard amps.

    • @stevenlewis4385
      @stevenlewis4385 2 года назад

      Pretty sure they do. They've tested some Quilter stuff.

  • @noobtuberguitarist6277
    @noobtuberguitarist6277 Год назад

    Yep I get it that nothing beats the amp but are these not directed for more bedroom/home studios where you cannot get these amps working anyway

  • @trevortwigg1384
    @trevortwigg1384 2 года назад +1

    I feel like if you properly fiddled with the EQ on the Boss one it’d be better. Also the ability to download new IRs kind of makes it superior still.

  • @alexreever5788
    @alexreever5788 2 года назад

    Can you run the ir200 into a power amp as a preamp

  • @mikevanleeuwen2858
    @mikevanleeuwen2858 2 года назад +3

    I think you have to try these modelors or amp in a box pedals with a powered monitor (wedge) . Not studio monitors. Play them trough a powered p.a. monitor against a fender hot rod deluxe . So the feel thing and volume is there in both sitations. Put some room mics around them so we could get an impression on how it sounds and feels . It would be very interesting. Some people buy these units for silent recording or an ampless situation but there are a lot of players that want that volume and ampfeel in the room but don't want the hassles / problems of a tube amp or the "one sound" they give you . There are many video's of thes modelors straight trough an interface but there are no video's with the modelors / amp boxes through powered wedges. Please , make some sort of a video. Thanks, Mike

    • @STF_YVR
      @STF_YVR 2 года назад

      The IR-200 sounds great through Studio Monitors

  • @RafaelYamaga
    @RafaelYamaga 2 года назад

    Exactly what one would expect from a Boss IR box. Sounds like boss. Not good. Not bad. Just Boss.

  • @droliver
    @droliver 2 года назад +3

    The simplicity and functionality of the Strymon makes it the easy choice to me. I hate(!!!!!!!) digital menu tweaking on boxes like the Boss.

    • @Reportageandart
      @Reportageandart 2 года назад +1

      Yeah... Thats why I got rid of the Helix... Got the Iridium, it is easy and well made but it is lacking in some areas... no FX loop so everything goes striaght in and it gets very noisey when you add gain.

  • @chriscuthbertson
    @chriscuthbertson 2 года назад +10

    I wish it had balanced XLR outs, would save having to add a DI box to my board.

    • @DudeMcGuybro
      @DudeMcGuybro 2 года назад +3

      Agreed, what's the point of buying fake amp if I need buy a fake cab to go with it? lol.

    • @JohnPaulSheets
      @JohnPaulSheets 2 года назад +1

      @@DudeMcGuybro in what world is a direct box a fake amp?

    • @JohnPaulSheets
      @JohnPaulSheets 2 года назад

      A DI can be so small it’s practically negligible.

    • @DudeMcGuybro
      @DudeMcGuybro 2 года назад +1

      @@JohnPaulSheets It's a joke, don't be too literal about it lol. I just want a unit to have XLR outs because I'm a picky doofus.

    • @denverdave12
      @denverdave12 2 года назад

      Agreed. One of the best uses of amp sims is to run direct to FOH and you need XLRs to do that.

  • @frankpitman3431
    @frankpitman3431 2 года назад +2

    The Iridium was next on my list until I saw the Boss IR had more features for the money. But, after hearing them both on several videos, for my style tone is really important and I really like the Iridium’s tone better so, I’ll be sticking with the Iridium. If I played louder music or metal I might like the Boss IR better.

    • @havokca
      @havokca 2 года назад +2

      The cab (IR in this case) makes most of the tone, and they showed 8 of the 180 on the BOSS… plus you can load your own on it.
      Way more flexibility for the money, and a higher likelihood of finding the tone you love.
      For me, I’d want to try them both. Stores are too far away for me though, so I ordered the BOSS 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @ldp7090
      @ldp7090 2 года назад +1

      why do you think its designed for loud music/metal? I'm using ir200 with stereo ownhammer IRs based on fender deluxe reverb 1x12 and vibroverb 1x15 it sounds great. I haven't tried iridium though so can't compare

  • @aquilarossa5191
    @aquilarossa5191 2 года назад +4

    The way to fairly compare these modellers to amps is to run the amps into the Ox Box or something (when comparing in person, so the experience is similar). The presets of modellers generally always include the signal flow from the amp, speaker, mic, mic pres and mixer etc. What you hear in DAW using a model is meant to be similar to what you would hear in a studio control room when the amp is miked up in an iso booth. That is never going to sound like being in front of a cranked amp. I facepalm when people like Pete say it is not pushing air like an amp. He should know better.

  • @9outof10
    @9outof10 2 года назад

    Would be interested for you to explore different guitars through these. Is there an extent to which amp modelling renders the type/pickup of your guitar less important?

  • @PaulMorini
    @PaulMorini 2 года назад +2

    I'd really like to hear a comparison between the real gear and the sim...

  • @zer0tzer0
    @zer0tzer0 2 года назад

    The Iridium has a fuller tone, which is fine for practice on your own, but is that really what you want with a band, or in the context of a mix? Maybe not. But, of course, you could EQ it out.

  • @Paul-D
    @Paul-D 2 года назад +28

    I feel like Sims, VSTS have been at a point thats convincing, usable studio or live for a while - and can sound great. But anyone who also uses Piano VST's that are at a similar level nothing beats the real thing for giving you that feeling. The happy feeling haha. Theres just nothing lihe hearing that real amp and real speakers around you, much like theres nothing like that mechanical huge sound you get from playing a real piano.

    • @CitizenOfEverywhere
      @CitizenOfEverywhere 2 года назад +14

      There's just nothing like screaming down the road at 200km/h on your motorbike, but it similarly suffers from limited opportunity to do so, for most of us. What you say certainly isn't wrong, but (and please don't take the the wrong way), I'm a little bored of hearing it, and its really time to embrace the here and now.

    • @Paul-D
      @Paul-D 2 года назад +4

      @@CitizenOfEverywhere Good analogy! I agree and do embrace it. I use plugins and amp sims daily. Because of the reason you said haha.

    • @Radical_Middle
      @Radical_Middle 2 года назад +1

      @@CitizenOfEverywhere so you are saying.. ;) that we shall embrace new tech regarding how it sounds? this boss sounds like crap and will not cut thru mix properly. but maybe it is not relevant for some. you bored about hearing the truth? well, have no comment on that.

    • @CitizenOfEverywhere
      @CitizenOfEverywhere 2 года назад +2

      @@Radical_Middle I don't know why you are so offended that other people can find value in these products. That's obviously the truth you are bored of hearing.

    • @Radical_Middle
      @Radical_Middle 2 года назад

      @@CitizenOfEverywhere Im not offended at all:) peace bro:) why would I? I disagree with you on this one that's all. If you gonna use that crap, good for me, my recs will have sound quality advantage over yours. so by all means - go for it!! :)

  • @tonedowne
    @tonedowne 2 года назад +5

    The Boss is a way more accurate representation of those amps as heard through those microphones, but the Iridium is built to feel good under the fingers coming out of a monitor speaker. That is why it has so much more bass and low mid resonance.

  • @TheOligoclonalBand
    @TheOligoclonalBand 2 года назад +1

    I bought the IR-200 and pair it with my Eventide H9 in the fx loop. With that I can pitch shift my guitar and after I try a few IRs for bass amps and eq seetings I get a pretty good bass sound. It's so great to be able to switch between paying "bass" and guitar in an instant. When I play along to songs I sometimes switch between my simulated bass and guitar for certain parts. I also use an EQ pedal for boost or de-boost and a few things for the direct sound of the guitar. Great fun.

  • @whitepony1913
    @whitepony1913 2 года назад +2

    They should have matched the ambience in the higher gains. The Iridium was always big where you can tell the 200 was tighter making it seem smaller.

  • @jmabs5096
    @jmabs5096 2 года назад

    Another thing that probably you need to do with the boss is ditch the presets to find its true potential. For instance boss katana mk1 all the tones where pretty "good" then I found the sneaky amps patch and man that really unlocked the true potential for the high gain sounds

    • @esposoman
      @esposoman 2 года назад +1

      I have a Boss GT1000 core and yes, the true potential comes out when you dig deep with the parameters.

  • @benjaminkoskinen5835
    @benjaminkoskinen5835 10 месяцев назад

    PLS tell me. Is this thing stereo in/stereo out? If not, I will go with something else…

  • @helmanfrow
    @helmanfrow 2 года назад

    You're likely not going to sell it but I'd be curious to hear you try the Mod Dwarf.

  • @davidyoung8875
    @davidyoung8875 2 года назад

    what I want to see is Pete's big new looper pedal. Can you do a video about that Please.😀

  • @Pulse2AM
    @Pulse2AM 2 года назад +1

    I have a GT-1 this sounds more like a real amp though I have got some really good tones out of the GT-1. Not every amp is great on the GT-1 and you really have to be willing to experiment with what's on tap to get a tone you like.

  • @yourguitarist
    @yourguitarist 2 года назад +14

    The reason why the experience of playing through studio monitors is "underwhelming", is because your monitors are too wimpy and not nearly loud enough... get better (bigger) monitors and crank those puppies! I get can get controlled feedback and shake the studio even with a cheapo joyo modeler.

  • @TungstenOvergaard
    @TungstenOvergaard 2 года назад

    Can this be connected to a couple of speakers and that’s all? (PA)

    • @STF_YVR
      @STF_YVR 2 года назад

      Yes if active … or an iPhone / iPad … great portable option

  • @SilverbackOrangutan71
    @SilverbackOrangutan71 2 года назад

    Pulled the trigger on one today.. I’m tired of lugging amps… and more reliable than running AmpliTube out of Mac book but cheaper as well. Amplitude is killer I’ll continue to use it.. how not as much as ir200

  • @irasnyder8562
    @irasnyder8562 2 года назад

    For the $, would buying a Headrush MX5 be a better choice?

  • @robinmatjanoski5318
    @robinmatjanoski5318 2 года назад +1

    Pete should get paid. Lee's gear enthusiasm is still there.

  • @dasenase
    @dasenase Год назад

    How's this compare to the helix

  • @scke3717
    @scke3717 Год назад

    Should AB this sans reverbs with Tonex pedal.

  • @Mesa3077Boogie
    @Mesa3077Boogie 2 года назад +1

    The x high gain in real life is really nice actually. Better than the built in bogner in my opinion.

  • @timhopkins3810
    @timhopkins3810 2 года назад +4

    I would agree that the Boss digital amps don’t do distortion well, they’re ok but they’re one of the companies where you can still hear digital artifacts a bit. The other parts of the device like connections, an fx loop and midi are great though and all of the cab sims should be looking to have these on their devices.
    The one point that I’d note is that the ir-200 can’t separate amps and IRs like the iridium or a two notes cab m plus so you can’t use just one or the other on it’s own. That’s a bit of a deal breaker for my situation.

  • @-SILON
    @-SILON 2 года назад

    That was a great demonstration of the line 6 pod... 😁 Ugh....

  • @peoplewithpixels
    @peoplewithpixels 2 года назад +3

    IMO the Iridium sounds more natural. Also, looking at the comparison, I cannot help but notice how much Cap fiddles with the IR-200 before getting to a sound they like. Personally, that should be time used to play the guitar. But that's just me, thanks for the comparison/presentation guys!

  • @jmacc9876
    @jmacc9876 2 года назад

    Wish the irridium had an fx loop, it's a shame because it sounds better and seems way more approachable than the IR 200. The effects loop would be particularly handy for using delays/whatnot but then also using the headphone jack for silent practice etc.

  • @blackmasiyach
    @blackmasiyach 2 года назад +1

    Iridium sounds more natural and warm to my ears. It feels like listening to an actual amp compared to IR200

  • @kuzeyrfatkzgnkaya7274
    @kuzeyrfatkzgnkaya7274 2 года назад

    it takes pedals really good by the way.