That’s because us dudes all get together on Fridays to discuss how we can prevent them from being interested in that sort of thing. It’s clearly one of the top priorities of The Patriarchy Inc. That’s what my gender studies degree told me.😅
They hate worrying like 90% of our moms do, imagine having to pick (Your bike or me) after you have kids!!!! Happened to more than one buddy of mine, I would pick Bike 🏍️
I commute over 50 minutes each way (mostly country roads) on a 600RR with a number of damaged disks and my back generally feels better after commuting. It forces me to use the muscles more regularly and in different ways helping core strength.
I'm also a cyclist and tbh the supersports are way more uncomfortable haha. At least on a bicycle you can move your legs around, no stuffy gear. Imagine that same position but you can't move and you're wearing leather
idk, at least on a sports bike you can squeeze your crotch muscles and hold on with your legs. A little. But I guess it evens out on a bicycle since you're constantly pushing with legs and taking weight off your hands.
@@yammienoob I'm way more comfortable on my R7 and can use my legs to support my back. To eleviate the strain on my back on a road bicycle I either need to pedal very hard or lean a lot on my wrists. I hate that about my road bike. But maybe it's too long for me. (that's what she said)
@@mihel Depends on the bike and riding posture, as well as your seat. When I cycle, I use a semi-aggressive stance versus fully aggressive lean or neutral because it feels more comfortable for me considering the distance and speed I bike (I regularly make three 33 mile road rides every week for exercise, a little under 2 hrs per ride in a hilly area). Peddling can have adverse effects on your spine and butt depending upon how strong your core is and how aggressively/hard you peddle, where riding a motorcycle you can let your body relax a bit more as it lacks the peddling. If you're doing a relaxing bicycle ride, your body's not going to be under much stress at all... but that ends once you start going longer distances or turning the ride into a workout. In terms of heat sitting in the middle of traffic... yeah, motorcycle is going to be way more uncomfortable due to gear and bike radiating heat! On the plus side, it's more comfortable in colder weather than a bicycle. Personally, I find a motorcycle generally more relaxing than cycling, but being fair one is for fun and the other is for exercise.
I used to commute on an R1. It was heavy and awkward at first but I got used to it quick and it got me in pretty decent shape. After a few weeks or I could be on it for hours without any sense of fatigue or soreness. Next I got an XSR900 because I didn’t “need” a rocket of a bike. It was a great bike but truth is I was bored with it almost immediately. So, I sold that and got another new R1 to commute on. I also picked up a new ZX-6R for my around-town ride. I won’t say they are the most comfortable bikes but keep yourself in decent shape and ride regularly and you’ll be totally comfortable on long rides.
@@dariomladenovski7047 Actually my daughter's 50CC Yamaha scooter was the best for in city riding. It was quick and nimble in traffic. She replaced it with a Honda CBR125R because it would do highway speeds. Now she is a Mum and it sits unloved in her garage.
I loved scooters when I lived in Europe. Plenty of scooter parking everywhere, and generally good cultured drivers all around. In the US, particularly Florida, not so much lol.
Correction on the Women don't care about motorcycles. Women don't care about being a pillion or excessively talking about motorcycles (like men do), but I know quite a few who love riding them. My wife and 2 daughters all ride, but are not as obsessive about it as I am.
@@aao331 I'd say yes, because my wife has been riding dirt bikes since she was 11 and road bikes once she was old enough to get her licence. That was long before she met me, and it was one of the common interests we shared when we first started dating. Of course my daughters were always immersed in motorcycle and car culture because that was a big part of their upbringing. So I couldn't say for sure if they would have picked up riding on their own. It doesn't really matter, does it? They enjoy it, and in their words, "they will never be some dude's backpack"! As a long time rider who is also a dad, I couldn't be prouder.
“Doth my eyes deceive me!?!” Is that a picture of a Kawasaki Ninja 1000sx!!! You DID it! You included some small morsel of a reference to the BEST Sport Touring bike in the history of the world… Thank you, Thank you, THANK YOU!!!
In my early 20's I did a year and a half with an r6 as my only vehicle in Austin. Daily rider, even took it as far as Winter Park, CO. Loved it. Now... I read the headline to your video and went ahead and took some ibuprofen just thinking about it 😂
Yammie, decide yourself: Sportbikes - uncomfortable and not practical; ADVs - the SUVs of two wheels; Cruisers - why tho; 😅 I kid, you are correct. If I'd commute, I'd get an MT07 and call it a day. Fortunately, I need not do it and I can use a bike as a toy only.
Same here. The semi active suspension is amazing. You only feel large bumps and it even eats them better than other bikes I've owned. Also I've had no issues at all with it other than getting a little hot in traffic on really hot days.
When i was younger i did this, i lived with it because its cool but actually sucked at city commuting so hot specially when the fan turns on, your helmet will become an instant sauna haha
I borrowed a buddy's sport bike to go to a meeting in the next city over (126 km one way), when I was young man my back was killing me afterwards. He would ride that bike for hundreds of KM.
Any bike is good for commuting!! My past - CBR600 F4i; Ducati Cafe Racer; now ZX6r, cant agree. Any bike that erases your day's bs, is a good commuter bike.👍
I’ve put 20,000 miles on my 2021 cbr1000rr since I bought it new August of 2022. I’m extremely short, and have a stupid long reach, so the riding position isn’t uncomfortable for me, like it is for most people. I’ve been faulting it for two years now, and they’ll pry it out of my cold, dead hands.
Dailying a sport bike is not nearly as bad as people like to pretend it is. At most theyre hot in traffic. Thats all. You don't need to be in pocket formation all the time. The seats are large, especially on liter bikes. I can go from riding nearly upright against the tank to full prone position by pushing against the tail. Also they offer wind buffering which is something naked bikes dont do. I can ride my s1000rr all day without a single issues other than my butt gets a lil sore if I sit in one position for an extended amount of time, which is an easy fix with a comfort seat. The only time I had a problem with hand or wrist pain or numbness is because my gloves were too tight. Plus I put a slightly taller aftermarket puig racer windscreen on it and now the wind flows right over my helmet
I love my R7 in traffic, with its mirrors folded in it’s narrower than scooters, so I can squeeze into extremely tiny gaps. if a bike is following me in heavy traffic, they just have to stop for gaps I comfortably fit into, I love it. I also experience no wrist pain at all, yeah my back is shit but that’s been shit for a decade.
Shows how trends change. In the 80s and 90s everybody HAD TO HAVE a sport bike. The next fad that will get a change of underwear is the adventure bike thing.
I still won't be giving up my R6 daily. So guess I'm a 6'3" 185lbs 600cc sportbike Chad. That said 1 summer on a Panigale 959 got me to say I'll never ride another Panigale/Oven ever again.
It's nice to see makers like Suzuki come out with bikes like the GSX-8R. Supersport looks with a peppy engine but not having to rev it out, and a fairly relaxed position.
Yeah the engine on that thing is really gr8 but the cheapness elsewhere is lacking-- non-adjustable suspension, too relaxed upright ergo's IMO and bad brakes make it a let down in stock form. I'm a big Suzuki fan but I wish it was a better all around set up because the engine is killer. RS660 nailed what all of these are trying to be.
Lifelong buddy of mines kid, just bought a 2000 Yamaha R6 as his first bike. Rides it to work and back. Has an exhaust muffler that sticks out past the back of the bike 10" inches or so. It's comical.
@@hugoa4856 that’s a shame… i’ll take the r1 off ur hands it’s no good, how about $20 and a chicken sandwich from popeyes? i’ll throw some biscuits in if you want
I will ride my gsxr till it falls apart. Does my back hurt? Yes. Does my hand/wrist hurt? Yes. Am I a soon to be 30 year old squid in denial? Maybe. But I love my gsxr 750. She’s gotten me through many downpours and long rides. ❤️
I rode 750/4 1100 Yamaha etc etc etc. then i tried my neighbor's 250cc Honda scooter with a trunk and a top case. Twenty minutes later I was selling my giant overpowered bike and looking for a Honda Helix. That was about 25 years ago, and I'm still riding it.
Great bike! Fun to ride around, great ergonomics, excellent fuel economy, 87 octane, fast enough for the interstate roads, kawasaki reliability and in the right hands a track weapon.
Yam makes perfect sense on this 1. I started my motorcycle life on cruisers. Git a sports tourer and realized how bad cruisers are around town. Switch to a 750 naked bike and then realize how bad, V-twin, 1000cc sports tourers are on the rear tire. Supersports are uncomfortable to me. Cruisers are slow and heavy. Naked bike....👍.
Daily ride a cbr600rr in ft worth about 50 miles a day minimum and can tell you the heat is straight facts. But other than a bobber or something I couldn’t see myself riding anything else. I love my sport bike and will ride it for as long as my body allows. I’m 33 and already notice a bit of wrist pains and such but idgaf
My 04 zx6r isn't bad. I ride it to work everyday. I've been working on my legs to avoid putting weight on hands. I do live in the country though. So lots of open road and two way lanes. Worst thing I come across is a rig carrying sand. I'm sure in winter I'll have to look out for deer and hog but I'll cross that bridge when it comes lol
I have a 2015 CBR1000rr along with a bad back due to spinal stenosis. I am 63 and probably eat too many donuts but somehow the athletic crouched position lets me ride, Even when it is so bad when i can't stand to sit in a car - especially if I am not driving. I bought an old rear seat and modified it to take a GIVI Monokey rack and mount a 2 helmet top box back there. Groceries - Beer runs - etc all possible, convenient, and fun
That's why I love my Kawasexi ZX14R 💚 Comfortable touring ergonomics with passenger/luggage capacity. Sport performance that will spank any Litre bike on the street. Best of both worlds.
Same with my ZX4RR, best of both worlds. I only need to spank cars so they don't hit me, which it does just fine. Little tailbag for food pickups. Needs a cupholder tbh lol
I used to ride my '06 Honda 599 Naked bike to the office daily when I was working. Made a great commuter bike but the lack of storage was a pain. Solution was a backpack for wet weather, lunch and office stuff. Luckily for me I live on the outside of a city and my office was just on the edge, therefore my commute was mostly on country roads with only a couple of traffic lights. Although my colleagues used to point out if it was raining. That stopped when I would say, "I've plenty of dry clothes at home". Keep on riding everyone and be safe out there.
Im 6'3 and i am so much more comfortable with the seating position on my gsxr 1000, than i was on a harley or boulevard. I also put cruise control on it so that helps.
I rode a CBR-600RR on a daily basis for 10 years in Mexico City traffic, branded as the worst traffic in the world by many studies. I can only say: Riding a SuperSport in the city is like robbing a candy shop with an assault rifle. Way overkill and unpractical. Riding a literbike is like robbing the same store with a bazooka. Why? Just why? Returned to the basics: A reliable Sv650 ABS.
R1 as my only vehicle. I love the bike. Rain, cold, everything. Ow and it's a 2008 so no electronics to protect me. Biggest drawback is the amount of heat it hits you with sitting at a red-light mid summer. My poor inner knees get hit with stove type heat.
Always funny watching sport bikes come up to intersection and have to stretch their backs, arms and legs. Riding with legs behind you just looks painful. One point you missed is insurance. My insurance provider called and said we cut your rates in half as Harley riders are the safest on the road. Asked the provider how they are going to make up for the price reduction, they said we doubled sport bikes rates…..
Uhh, if you don't crash, why would they need to make it up anywhere else? They'd be raking in easy money every year already since they don't have to pay for any claims. 🤔 Obligatory "insurance is a scam"
I daily a 2002 Bandit 1200s. Besides not having ABS or rider aids, it's the perfect bike for commuting. It's fast as heck too, but I can putter around at 15 mph and filter at the same time. I can do almost all the maintenance myself. It's also cheap to run and insure. I keep on thinking of buying something new, but I come back to the Bandit.
I daily drive a 600cc Hornet. An old one, 4 cylinder and carburetors. I love that it's tame at low revs but most of all, I love the refined sound of a 4 cylinder engine. 2 cylinder sound makes my stomach knot...
At 55 years old and 6' 1" I couldn't handle the rider triangle on every sport bike I tried. Bought a Triumph Speed Triple RS last year and love it for my daily commute and quick blasts to the mountains.
FZ1/FZ6 instead of R1/R6, riding with elbows locked is a bad habit/bad form. My ‘82 GL500i SilverWing is a great daily rider, good in cold weather too.
As someone who's had sports tourers and cruises, I don't get the current fashion for the clamshell riding position on current non-bagger cruisers; no more comfortable than sportsbikes over distance. And what's with the 2" rear shock travel? If you want a hardtail just buy one, worst of both worlds otherwise
i rode my R6 on a 7000 mile road trip and can confirm it gets uncomfy as fast as it hits redline but makes for good memories once you get a comfy bike, the super duke R is a sweet spot for me
I'm currently daily a GSX8R. well, not fully daily, any day the weather plays nice, I ride to work. When it's time to get groceries, or it's going to rain on the way to or from work I take the car. But annoyingly, I love riding the bike as much as I can. I say annoyingly because it means if I want to grab a bit to eat before work, I have to go inside. No drive thrus. I can't have a ciggerette because I'm bored at a red light thanks to the helmet. I have to try and beat the crazy amount of people I work with out of the parking lot, or wait for them all to leave. And of course there's taking the backpack in every day, sitting in the hot sun only causing my back to get soaked in my own juices. But at the same time, I get off at 2-4am, somewhere in that time frame. Roads aren't to crowded and when you've had a bad day, 100mph is very easy to obtain with out endangering anyone but your self. So it's somewhat of a trade off. No way could I have just a bike for my only mode of transportation. When you live alone, and have house projects and such that occasionally need done, it's just not reasonable. But I will find any excuse to ride if even for just a trip up the street I can.
One of the reasons why many move to scooters. The current "Super Scooters" offer a far more comfortable riding position, as well as rather superior degree of frontal protection, yet have most of the fun element of traditional motorbikes. Under-seat storage is also a major advantage.
I love my VFR800!! It looks like a sportbike, it's fast enough to land me in jail, the exhaust note is a symphony, it can carry groceries, and I can ride it all day long and never get sore. Yes, it's heavy, but it does not feel heavy on the road. As a former pro mechanic, I've ridden everything on two wheels and my daily ride will always be a VFR.
If a cbr300 is a sports bike, technically it is, you should have no problem comfortably riding in traffic or around town and even highway speeds easily. Paired with a helmet box you should be able to take care of all of your grocery shopping if you're a bachelor and it does 71 miles to the gallon.... and you can find them all day under 3000 dollars. Very convenient and saves a ton on gas. Basically, pays itself off in 2 years so long as you're ridding it for all possible errands.
I'm 72. I don't do much "commuting" but I do about 9K a year on country roads. I've put 50K on my Scout in 5 years. A sport bike would kill me. Cruiser is for me. Although I would prefer mid controls over forward controls.
I know some will hate it, some will mock it, but my 30 year old metric cruiser, has been my daily commuter, for quite a few years. I don't ride in the winter, but for the other three seasons, it's almost indestructible. Also, I'm sure my sciatica could never handle a sport bike, of any kind.
Yup, ex sports biker here. In my 20s I’d never admit it was crap. I’m 40 now, pain in the ass for anything longer than an hour. I hade a choice between 2024 Pani v4 and SFV4 grey Nero. After trying both , went with the Sfv4. FAR BETTER. Heading on tour with it shortly.
As an asian with a height disadvantage, Cruisers are my only choice to have a chance of flatfooting, plus the only thing that gets tired in my hand with the clutch lever when im city riding
In Portugal people are usually short, at least until my generation, many people said they felt more comfortable on a SS instead of some others, because they were fitting the bike perfectly, one guy even told me once, that was the perfect bike for him that he was just resting the body against the tank.
I daily a 24 S1KRR. It is the most comfortable supersport that I have ever ridden. Coming from an MT09 and XSR900 though makes me agree with you. My wrists hurt and I am 6 foot 3 so I feel like a grasshopper riding a tricycle. 4/10 would not recommend. But, being able to comfortably do 190+ makes my pp go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I ride a '23 GSXR 750 on average 2-4 times a week depending on the weather. Bought it in May last year and already have 10.2k miles. My commute is 106 miles round trip, and I fill daily with 2.1 gal. It's never that uncomfortable because the route keeps my body moving. I also only hit 4-5 stop lights. The beauty is never being stuck behind a log truck on the back highway with 5 other cars doing 45 in a 55. 😂
Gixxer's are relatively comfy tho, the bars aren't super low and pegs aren't jacked way high. Same with CBRs. R6 and ZX6 are pretty taxing after about an hour and Ducati's are very taxing.
My work commute is actually 100 miles and I ride a Husqvarna 701 and even that's not comfortable and that's at least a neutral riding position. My brother has an R6 and it's great for 20 minutes, after that it gets old quick.
My zx14 makes gobs of low rpm torque, is much more comfortable than other sport bikes I’ve ridden, and gets better fuel economy than my gold wing. It does suck carrying a backpack everywhere though. I’ve done 1000 miles in a day on the goldwing, haven’t done more than 150 on a sport biek
At 56 , my wrists have given up on the clip on's . I came across a 400 Majesty scooter , and for commuting on highway and running quick errands , it far exceeds expectation. 90 mph if needed on the x way , actual storage , 53 mpg....
A lot of good points and data here. Many naked bikes are just as good as super sports because most people can't ride them to where it actually makes a difference anyhow. May as well save money and pain.
I like the looks, the revs, the wind protection and to have a bike which pleases me everytime i look at it instead of feeling like a mid life crisis guy
Yammie noob is right about high cc racings and storage problem but low cc racing bikes KTM RC 390, Suzuki GSX 250R, Yamaha R25 and the like has great fuel economy and ergonomics which is great for commuting.
I have a 2023 500 CXA Honda and get 60-75 mpg average highway if I pull with heavy throttle 45-50 mpg Did 300 mile ride on the Honda and filled up once 3.6 gallons after starting with a full tank was down to 1/2 when I got back MT10 40-45 mpg highway if I’m pulling it’s less Did 440 mile ride on the MT10 2x filled up about 3.7 gallons 2.7 and started with a full tank finished 1/4 of a tank Definitely both are ok and getting gas before the next part of a trip that’s long without a station is a great way to hydrate and alleviate before having to crouch behind a bush or Tommy Boy it right next to the highway
I ride my zx6r everywhere not a daily but every chance I get. my back honestly feels better and stretched out compared to how I feel after being slouched on my suzuki boulevard
I've been commuting 100mi each day on a s1000rr, zx10r and cbr1000. I have no issues. I honestly feel comfortable on these compared to the upright riding position of touring bikes.
For some reason, my ‘02 FZ1 ( which doesn’t have the side/lower plastics ) doesn’t put out much heat, hardly needs the radiator fan if it’s ridden easy, even on 100f+ days.
The comfort thing was the reason I mourned the loss of the sportsbike (CBR600F, Thundercat, gen 1 or 2 R6, ZX9R) in favour of a race bike for the road (CBR1000RR, ZX10)
Sportbikes can be made more comfortable with Heli bars and aftermarket rearsets but the manufacturers should offer optional ergos to keep sales going before they discontinue the bike for poor sales😎
The best daily in my honest opinion is a 2012+ WR450F. Even on knobbies it’s a blast. Is an Africa twin more comfortable? Absolutely, but the WR is so much fun and perfect for small commutes to and from work. Throw in a few wheelies here and there and you’ll never regret getting one.
i had a naked bike, it wasn't as good a commuter as my zx6r, my sportbike has fairings so you barely feel the wind, and i can rest on the tank on the highway
I love it. It's a detuned R1 engine, thicker head gasket to lower compression and smaller carbs. In this setup, the engines last way longer and require way less maintenance despite only losing a few ponies. It's the most comfortable bike I've ridden. Perfect seating position IMO. Relaxed and comfortable but you can still tuck in easily enough
20 years ago if you wanted a performance based machine you really had no choice but a dedicated sport bike. Nowadays the standard/naked category has gotten so good I don't see a need for them unless you want a track machine. Also the sport touring segment is gotten much better with the advent of the XR, Multistrada, Super Duke GT, etc.
Bro my fz6r is king. Love that thing. Super peppy. Leans in amazingly. Crazy torque although it starts at like 7k rpm. And the seats super comfortable.
Super sports and sport bikes are different. I ride a sport touring like an adv bike. I so want a new Buell super touring. I get gas every other day. Unless on the old 360 2 stroke. I have my own 2 stroke dance at the gas pump.
Giveaway MT09 SP is up for grabs on yammienoob.co ! Don't miss it
"Women do not care about motorcycles - at all"
Truer words have never been spoken.
That’s because us dudes all get together on Fridays to discuss how we can prevent them from being interested in that sort of thing. It’s clearly one of the top priorities of The Patriarchy Inc. That’s what my gender studies degree told me.😅
I keep seeing this sentiment but women seem to like me more. Granted I'm doordashing so these are women who see me all the time.
@@MylesKillisThey wanna ride, just not the bike…
@@dans2971 If I wasn't religious AF I'd be a menace
They hate worrying like 90% of our moms do, imagine having to pick (Your bike or me) after you have kids!!!!
Happened to more than one buddy of mine, I would pick Bike 🏍️
Yam, they make cargo bags for busas because you need somewhere to put your extra flip flops, tank tops, and gym shorts.
You mean turbo bags?
I commute over 50 minutes each way (mostly country roads) on a 600RR with a number of damaged disks and my back generally feels better after commuting. It forces me to use the muscles more regularly and in different ways helping core strength.
Seems legit.
Happy to hear it helps.
Try a naked like the MT09 I think maybe you'll be converted
@mandrakejake I've been riding for over 20 years, I have ridden a little of everything and I've always preferred 600s.
You can make bike more comfy with Heli bars and rearsets, I did that with a 2024 ZX6R that I love to ride😎
I ride my sport bike everywhere lol and my wrist kill me everytime
Work on squeezing with your knees on the tank to take the weight off of your wrists.
My wrists hurt until I got used to it… squeeze the knees! Repeat it to yourself every time your wrists start to fatigue until it’s natural.
@coreyh3170 NICE!!! thanks for the advice!! Going on a ride this afternoon gonna try it!
Get tank grips and thank me later
Get tekspec grips. I got some on my ninja and now I can free up my grip anytime I break.
As a cyclist I’m used to having garbage ergonomics so it probably wouldn’t be the worst thing 😂
I'm also a cyclist and tbh the supersports are way more uncomfortable haha. At least on a bicycle you can move your legs around, no stuffy gear. Imagine that same position but you can't move and you're wearing leather
@@yammienoob I guess I didn’t think about the gear and lack of movement. That crap would give me a cramp probably LOL
idk, at least on a sports bike you can squeeze your crotch muscles and hold on with your legs. A little. But I guess it evens out on a bicycle since you're constantly pushing with legs and taking weight off your hands.
@@yammienoob I'm way more comfortable on my R7 and can use my legs to support my back. To eleviate the strain on my back on a road bicycle I either need to pedal very hard or lean a lot on my wrists. I hate that about my road bike. But maybe it's too long for me. (that's what she said)
@@mihel Depends on the bike and riding posture, as well as your seat. When I cycle, I use a semi-aggressive stance versus fully aggressive lean or neutral because it feels more comfortable for me considering the distance and speed I bike (I regularly make three 33 mile road rides every week for exercise, a little under 2 hrs per ride in a hilly area). Peddling can have adverse effects on your spine and butt depending upon how strong your core is and how aggressively/hard you peddle, where riding a motorcycle you can let your body relax a bit more as it lacks the peddling. If you're doing a relaxing bicycle ride, your body's not going to be under much stress at all... but that ends once you start going longer distances or turning the ride into a workout. In terms of heat sitting in the middle of traffic... yeah, motorcycle is going to be way more uncomfortable due to gear and bike radiating heat! On the plus side, it's more comfortable in colder weather than a bicycle. Personally, I find a motorcycle generally more relaxing than cycling, but being fair one is for fun and the other is for exercise.
I used to commute on an R1. It was heavy and awkward at first but I got used to it quick and it got me in pretty decent shape. After a few weeks or I could be on it for hours without any sense of fatigue or soreness.
Next I got an XSR900 because I didn’t “need” a rocket of a bike. It was a great bike but truth is I was bored with it almost immediately. So, I sold that and got another new R1 to commute on. I also picked up a new ZX-6R for my around-town ride.
I won’t say they are the most comfortable bikes but keep yourself in decent shape and ride regularly and you’ll be totally comfortable on long rides.
You got bored because you ride for other people rather than just yourself . Riding is fun as is, it only gets boring when it becomes about pride
Wdym it kept you in shape? How?
I rode sport bikes for 35 years on a daily basis. Never had any issues until I was around 59. Now I ride a Kawasaki Z900RS.
I love the 900rs.
I did the same & I agree I'm 52 & ride standard bikes now
Same but 57 and now I ride an MT09SP.
This is one dead horse Yammie just wont stop beating. We're going to daily sportbikes no matter how much you complain.
cheers to that. we love ya, yammie, but i'll do it all the same ❤
Yuup
Nothing beats a Maxi Scooter for city riding. (400cc) Plenty of power for just about anything. Storage galore, comfort, and great MPG.
A buddy of mine used to have a Bergman 650 scooter lots of storage space and although I prefer my '06 Honda 599 I thought that his was a sweet ride.
@@misamsung6191 Xmax 300 is the goat when it comes to city ride, Burgamn is heavy af
@@dariomladenovski7047 Actually my daughter's 50CC Yamaha scooter was the best for in city riding. It was quick and nimble in traffic. She replaced it with a Honda CBR125R because it would do highway speeds. Now she is a Mum and it sits unloved in her garage.
My Honda Metropolitan is an incredible grocery getter despite being 50cc
I loved scooters when I lived in Europe. Plenty of scooter parking everywhere, and generally good cultured drivers all around. In the US, particularly Florida, not so much lol.
Correction on the Women don't care about motorcycles. Women don't care about being a pillion or excessively talking about motorcycles (like men do), but I know quite a few who love riding them. My wife and 2 daughters all ride, but are not as obsessive about it as I am.
Way more women riding now vs 20 years ago.
Would they ride if you dont? no. They to it because you introduced it to your hobby.
@@aao331 I'd say yes, because my wife has been riding dirt bikes since she was 11 and road bikes once she was old enough to get her licence. That was long before she met me, and it was one of the common interests we shared when we first started dating. Of course my daughters were always immersed in motorcycle and car culture because that was a big part of their upbringing. So I couldn't say for sure if they would have picked up riding on their own. It doesn't really matter, does it? They enjoy it, and in their words, "they will never be some dude's backpack"! As a long time rider who is also a dad, I couldn't be prouder.
Buuut your girl friends dont
7:42 you did not just say that 😂
Lmaoooo caught that
😂
I was like no way he just did that
I heard it too😂
“Doth my eyes deceive me!?!” Is that a picture of a Kawasaki Ninja 1000sx!!! You DID it! You included some small morsel of a reference to the BEST Sport Touring bike in the history of the world… Thank you, Thank you, THANK YOU!!!
In my early 20's I did a year and a half with an r6 as my only vehicle in Austin. Daily rider, even took it as far as Winter Park, CO. Loved it. Now... I read the headline to your video and went ahead and took some ibuprofen just thinking about it 😂
Yammie, decide yourself:
Sportbikes - uncomfortable and not practical;
ADVs - the SUVs of two wheels;
Cruisers - why tho;
😅
I kid, you are correct. If I'd commute, I'd get an MT07 and call it a day. Fortunately, I need not do it and I can use a bike as a toy only.
I daily my S1K. It is comfortable to ride. I'm 6' and 285. Fight me 🤣
No need to fight you, your bike does that for us 😋🤣
@@LAskeHosting 🤣🤣
Same here. The semi active suspension is amazing. You only feel large bumps and it even eats them better than other bikes I've owned. Also I've had no issues at all with it other than getting a little hot in traffic on really hot days.
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When i was younger i did this, i lived with it because its cool but actually sucked at city commuting so hot specially when the fan turns on, your helmet will become an instant sauna haha
I borrowed a buddy's sport bike to go to a meeting in the next city over (126 km one way), when I was young man my back was killing me afterwards. He would ride that bike for hundreds of KM.
ahhh the advantages of being the perfect height... 5' 8"
So true honestly not that sad being 5”8 😭
Any bike is good for commuting!! My past - CBR600 F4i; Ducati Cafe Racer; now ZX6r, cant agree. Any bike that erases your day's bs, is a good commuter bike.👍
I’ve put 20,000 miles on my 2021 cbr1000rr since I bought it new August of 2022. I’m extremely short, and have a stupid long reach, so the riding position isn’t uncomfortable for me, like it is for most people. I’ve been faulting it for two years now, and they’ll pry it out of my cold, dead hands.
Dailying a sport bike is not nearly as bad as people like to pretend it is. At most theyre hot in traffic. Thats all. You don't need to be in pocket formation all the time. The seats are large, especially on liter bikes. I can go from riding nearly upright against the tank to full prone position by pushing against the tail. Also they offer wind buffering which is something naked bikes dont do. I can ride my s1000rr all day without a single issues other than my butt gets a lil sore if I sit in one position for an extended amount of time, which is an easy fix with a comfort seat. The only time I had a problem with hand or wrist pain or numbness is because my gloves were too tight. Plus I put a slightly taller aftermarket puig racer windscreen on it and now the wind flows right over my helmet
I love my R7 in traffic, with its mirrors folded in it’s narrower than scooters, so I can squeeze into extremely tiny gaps. if a bike is following me in heavy traffic, they just have to stop for gaps I comfortably fit into, I love it. I also experience no wrist pain at all, yeah my back is shit but that’s been shit for a decade.
It’s cool to hate on sports bikes and pretend that no other bikes have issues of their own. Get with the latest fad group-think
@@Rothbardylol
Shows how trends change. In the 80s and 90s everybody HAD TO HAVE a sport bike. The next fad that will get a change of underwear is the adventure bike thing.
I still won't be giving up my R6 daily. So guess I'm a 6'3" 185lbs 600cc sportbike Chad. That said 1 summer on a Panigale 959 got me to say I'll never ride another Panigale/Oven ever again.
It's nice to see makers like Suzuki come out with bikes like the GSX-8R. Supersport looks with a peppy engine but not having to rev it out, and a fairly relaxed position.
Yeah the engine on that thing is really gr8 but the cheapness elsewhere is lacking-- non-adjustable suspension, too relaxed upright ergo's IMO and bad brakes make it a let down in stock form. I'm a big Suzuki fan but I wish it was a better all around set up because the engine is killer.
RS660 nailed what all of these are trying to be.
Lifelong buddy of mines kid, just bought a 2000 Yamaha R6 as his first bike. Rides it to work and back. Has an exhaust muffler that sticks out past the back of the bike 10" inches or so. It's comical.
Growing old tends to put sports bikes out of range particularly in the neck department as it becomes increasingly harder to crane one's neck to see
Or….OR….stay in good shape. I am 43, work out six days a week and daily my Panigale V4S and S 1000 RR. I’m good, yo.
the chad he was on about
Yup! I’m 57. Workout all the time. I can do 3 hours on my ninja ZX6R no problem.
@@TylerG7777 chad #2
i’m 23, workout everyday, and my back hurts after 20 minutes on my R1 😂
@@hugoa4856 that’s a shame… i’ll take the r1 off ur hands it’s no good, how about $20 and a chicken sandwich from popeyes? i’ll throw some biscuits in if you want
I will ride my gsxr till it falls apart.
Does my back hurt? Yes.
Does my hand/wrist hurt? Yes.
Am I a soon to be 30 year old squid in denial? Maybe.
But I love my gsxr 750. She’s gotten me through many downpours and long rides. ❤️
I rode 750/4 1100 Yamaha etc etc etc. then i tried my neighbor's 250cc Honda scooter with a trunk and a top case.
Twenty minutes later I was selling my giant overpowered bike and looking for a Honda Helix.
That was about 25 years ago, and I'm still riding it.
Scooters are very underrated
Honda Helix is one of the best scooters ever made! I wish they made modern versions!
@@dcamnc1 oh, I still have a Honda 750, but it's just for special occasions
Ill take the nimbleness of my Ninja 400 over other motorcycle types.
try an R7, bit more power, same nimbleness
Great bike! Fun to ride around, great ergonomics, excellent fuel economy, 87 octane, fast enough for the interstate roads, kawasaki reliability and in the right hands a track weapon.
Yam makes perfect sense on this 1. I started my motorcycle life on cruisers. Git a sports tourer and realized how bad cruisers are around town. Switch to a 750 naked bike and then realize how bad, V-twin, 1000cc sports tourers are on the rear tire. Supersports are uncomfortable to me. Cruisers are slow and heavy. Naked bike....👍.
I KNOW I’m not the only one that heard “demure” Get off TikTok YAMMIE!! 🤣🤣🤣
Daily ride a cbr600rr in ft worth about 50 miles a day minimum and can tell you the heat is straight facts. But other than a bobber or something I couldn’t see myself riding anything else. I love my sport bike and will ride it for as long as my body allows. I’m 33 and already notice a bit of wrist pains and such but idgaf
My 04 zx6r isn't bad. I ride it to work everyday. I've been working on my legs to avoid putting weight on hands. I do live in the country though. So lots of open road and two way lanes. Worst thing I come across is a rig carrying sand. I'm sure in winter I'll have to look out for deer and hog but I'll cross that bridge when it comes lol
I have a 2015 CBR1000rr along with a bad back due to spinal stenosis. I am 63 and probably eat too many donuts but somehow the athletic crouched position lets me ride, Even when it is so bad when i can't stand to sit in a car - especially if I am not driving. I bought an old rear seat and modified it to take a GIVI Monokey rack and mount a 2 helmet top box back there. Groceries - Beer runs - etc all possible, convenient, and fun
Anyone selling a puppy? 🤣🤣🤣 Yammie said i need one
Video ideas could be a follow up of what are the best bikes for commuting nakeds or tourers or ADV bikes
That's why I love my Kawasexi ZX14R 💚
Comfortable touring ergonomics with passenger/luggage capacity.
Sport performance that will spank any Litre bike on the street.
Best of both worlds.
Same with my ZX4RR, best of both worlds. I only need to spank cars so they don't hit me, which it does just fine. Little tailbag for food pickups. Needs a cupholder tbh lol
I used to ride my '06 Honda 599 Naked bike to the office daily when I was working. Made a great commuter bike but the lack of storage was a pain. Solution was a backpack for wet weather, lunch and office stuff. Luckily for me I live on the outside of a city and my office was just on the edge, therefore my commute was mostly on country roads with only a couple of traffic lights. Although my colleagues used to point out if it was raining. That stopped when I would say, "I've plenty of dry clothes at home". Keep on riding everyone and be safe out there.
Im 6'3 and i am so much more comfortable with the seating position on my gsxr 1000, than i was on a harley or boulevard. I also put cruise control on it so that helps.
I rode a CBR-600RR on a daily basis for 10 years in Mexico City traffic, branded as the worst traffic in the world by many studies. I can only say: Riding a SuperSport in the city is like robbing a candy shop with an assault rifle. Way overkill and unpractical. Riding a literbike is like robbing the same store with a bazooka. Why? Just why? Returned to the basics: A reliable Sv650 ABS.
R1 as my only vehicle. I love the bike. Rain, cold, everything. Ow and it's a 2008 so no electronics to protect me. Biggest drawback is the amount of heat it hits you with sitting at a red-light mid summer. My poor inner knees get hit with stove type heat.
Hayabusa is a great daily, and comfy too 😂
Always funny watching sport bikes come up to intersection and have to stretch their backs, arms and legs. Riding with legs behind you just looks painful. One point you missed is insurance. My insurance provider called and said we cut your rates in half as Harley riders are the safest on the road. Asked the provider how they are going to make up for the price reduction, they said we doubled sport bikes rates…..
Uhh, if you don't crash, why would they need to make it up anywhere else? They'd be raking in easy money every year already since they don't have to pay for any claims. 🤔
Obligatory "insurance is a scam"
My Michelin Pilot Road GT rear lasted 18,000 miles the started to show nylon in the center. Worth the cost.
I daily a 2002 Bandit 1200s. Besides not having ABS or rider aids, it's the perfect bike for commuting. It's fast as heck too, but I can putter around at 15 mph and filter at the same time. I can do almost all the maintenance myself. It's also cheap to run and insure. I keep on thinking of buying something new, but I come back to the Bandit.
I daily drive a 600cc Hornet. An old one, 4 cylinder and carburetors. I love that it's tame at low revs but most of all, I love the refined sound of a 4 cylinder engine. 2 cylinder sound makes my stomach knot...
Is a r3 considered a sport bike?
I’ve ridden one and it certainly feels like it.
even the R125 is considered one imo
At 55 years old and 6' 1" I couldn't handle the rider triangle on every sport bike I tried. Bought a Triumph Speed Triple RS last year and love it for my daily commute and quick blasts to the mountains.
New daytona 660 is comfy enough to ride a hour to the twisty roads and sporty enough to enjoy those roads
With the exception of heat and fuel economy a Super Blackbird is a wonderful motorcycle to live with.. dirt cheap too
As a euro squid having more than 1 bike + car is almost cost prohibitive. But yet im dailying my r1 rn12. Riding sane also cuts down on maintenance.
FZ1/FZ6 instead of R1/R6, riding with elbows locked is a bad habit/bad form. My ‘82 GL500i SilverWing is a great daily rider, good in cold weather too.
As someone who's had sports tourers and cruises, I don't get the current fashion for the clamshell riding position on current non-bagger cruisers; no more comfortable than sportsbikes over distance. And what's with the 2" rear shock travel? If you want a hardtail just buy one, worst of both worlds otherwise
Can’t tell me my sport bike isn’t made for daily use, it has cruise control 🤷🏼♂️😂 (also a bigger rider 6’5 200+lbs)
i rode my R6 on a 7000 mile road trip and can confirm it gets uncomfy as fast as it hits redline but makes for good memories once you get a comfy bike, the super duke R is a sweet spot for me
I'm currently daily a GSX8R. well, not fully daily, any day the weather plays nice, I ride to work. When it's time to get groceries, or it's going to rain on the way to or from work I take the car. But annoyingly, I love riding the bike as much as I can. I say annoyingly because it means if I want to grab a bit to eat before work, I have to go inside. No drive thrus. I can't have a ciggerette because I'm bored at a red light thanks to the helmet. I have to try and beat the crazy amount of people I work with out of the parking lot, or wait for them all to leave. And of course there's taking the backpack in every day, sitting in the hot sun only causing my back to get soaked in my own juices. But at the same time, I get off at 2-4am, somewhere in that time frame. Roads aren't to crowded and when you've had a bad day, 100mph is very easy to obtain with out endangering anyone but your self. So it's somewhat of a trade off. No way could I have just a bike for my only mode of transportation. When you live alone, and have house projects and such that occasionally need done, it's just not reasonable. But I will find any excuse to ride if even for just a trip up the street I can.
One of the reasons why many move to scooters. The current "Super Scooters" offer a far more comfortable riding position, as well as rather superior degree of frontal protection, yet have most of the fun element of traditional motorbikes. Under-seat storage is also a major advantage.
At age 64 I just moved from a FZ-09 to a GSX-S1000GT+. Couldn't be happier.
I love my VFR800!! It looks like a sportbike, it's fast enough to land me in jail, the exhaust note is a symphony, it can carry groceries, and I can ride it all day long and never get sore. Yes, it's heavy, but it does not feel heavy on the road. As a former pro mechanic, I've ridden everything on two wheels and my daily ride will always be a VFR.
As a 47 year old ZX6R rider this list is 100% but for the 10% of my ride that just hooks up perfectly I just can't give it up!!! 😊
If a cbr300 is a sports bike, technically it is, you should have no problem comfortably riding in traffic or around town and even highway speeds easily. Paired with a helmet box you should be able to take care of all of your grocery shopping if you're a bachelor and it does 71 miles to the gallon.... and you can find them all day under 3000 dollars. Very convenient and saves a ton on gas. Basically, pays itself off in 2 years so long as you're ridding it for all possible errands.
I'm 72. I don't do much "commuting" but I do about 9K a year on country roads. I've put 50K on my Scout in 5 years. A sport bike would kill me. Cruiser is for me. Although I would prefer mid controls over forward controls.
I know some will hate it, some will mock it, but my 30 year old metric cruiser, has been my daily commuter, for quite a few years. I don't ride in the winter, but for the other three seasons, it's almost indestructible.
Also, I'm sure my sciatica could never handle a sport bike, of any kind.
Yup, ex sports biker here. In my 20s I’d never admit it was crap. I’m 40 now, pain in the ass for anything longer than an hour.
I hade a choice between 2024 Pani v4 and SFV4 grey Nero.
After trying both , went with the Sfv4. FAR BETTER.
Heading on tour with it shortly.
As an asian with a height disadvantage, Cruisers are my only choice to have a chance of flatfooting, plus the only thing that gets tired in my hand with the clutch lever when im city riding
Yammie: Sport bikes are impractical.
Yammie: We're giving away a sport bike
Reasons why you should buy a sports bike:
1. They look good
2. They heal your demons
3. The sound
In Portugal people are usually short, at least until my generation, many people said they felt more comfortable on a SS instead of some others, because they were fitting the bike perfectly, one guy even told me once, that was the perfect bike for him that he was just resting the body against the tank.
I daily a 24 S1KRR. It is the most comfortable supersport that I have ever ridden. Coming from an MT09 and XSR900 though makes me agree with you. My wrists hurt and I am 6 foot 3 so I feel like a grasshopper riding a tricycle. 4/10 would not recommend. But, being able to comfortably do 190+ makes my pp go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
just did 1500 km in dolomites - Italy on my GSXR600 and was no problem.
IM 52 years old and I can ride for ever on my sports bike
I’m 57. I keep myself in good shape. I can ride my Ninja ZX6R for hours. 😁
@@TylerG7777 Nice! Stay healthy!
I ride a '23 GSXR 750 on average 2-4 times a week depending on the weather. Bought it in May last year and already have 10.2k miles. My commute is 106 miles round trip, and I fill daily with 2.1 gal. It's never that uncomfortable because the route keeps my body moving. I also only hit 4-5 stop lights. The beauty is never being stuck behind a log truck on the back highway with 5 other cars doing 45 in a 55. 😂
Gixxer's are relatively comfy tho, the bars aren't super low and pegs aren't jacked way high. Same with CBRs. R6 and ZX6 are pretty taxing after about an hour and Ducati's are very taxing.
My work commute is actually 100 miles and I ride a Husqvarna 701 and even that's not comfortable and that's at least a neutral riding position. My brother has an R6 and it's great for 20 minutes, after that it gets old quick.
I keep a Harley road king for destinations and a Triumph street triple for excitement
My zx14 makes gobs of low rpm torque, is much more comfortable than other sport bikes I’ve ridden, and gets better fuel economy than my gold wing. It does suck carrying a backpack everywhere though. I’ve done 1000 miles in a day on the goldwing, haven’t done more than 150 on a sport biek
Just bought a busa and the most shocking thing about it is the TERRIBLE fuel economy 😢
At 56 , my wrists have given up on the clip on's . I came across a 400 Majesty scooter , and for commuting on highway and running quick errands , it far exceeds expectation. 90 mph if needed on the x way , actual storage , 53 mpg....
Oh , forgot to add it was $1000 us and had 5k miles on it. Just needed a battery and a fresh tank of gas after sitting for 5 years.
...Like you're on a superfast scooter.... SO FUNNY!
He's not wrong... 😂 seems so silly.
A lot of good points and data here. Many naked bikes are just as good as super sports because most people can't ride them to where it actually makes a difference anyhow. May as well save money and pain.
I like the looks, the revs, the wind protection and to have a bike which pleases me everytime i look at it instead of feeling like a mid life crisis guy
Yammie noob is right about high cc racings and storage problem but low cc racing bikes KTM RC 390, Suzuki GSX 250R, Yamaha R25 and the like has great fuel economy and ergonomics which is great for commuting.
One Brit bike magazine once described the passenger accommodation on a Duke 1098 as a 200mph beer mat (coaster)
With age, ADVs make the best sense, particularly round town.
I have a 2023 500 CXA Honda and get 60-75 mpg average highway if I pull with heavy throttle 45-50 mpg
Did 300 mile ride on the Honda and filled up once 3.6 gallons after starting with a full tank was down to 1/2 when I got back
MT10 40-45 mpg highway if I’m pulling it’s less
Did 440 mile ride on the MT10 2x filled up about 3.7 gallons 2.7 and started with a full tank finished 1/4 of a tank
Definitely both are ok and getting gas before the next part of a trip that’s long without a station is a great way to hydrate and alleviate before having to crouch behind a bush or Tommy Boy it right next to the highway
I ride my zx6r everywhere not a daily but every chance I get. my back honestly feels better and stretched out compared to how I feel after being slouched on my suzuki boulevard
I've been commuting 100mi each day on a s1000rr, zx10r and cbr1000. I have no issues. I honestly feel comfortable on these compared to the upright riding position of touring bikes.
I would also argue a belt drive is better for a daily rider.
This greatly increases the maintenance to miles ratio.
For some reason, my ‘02 FZ1 ( which doesn’t have the side/lower plastics ) doesn’t put out much heat, hardly needs the radiator fan if it’s ridden easy, even on 100f+ days.
The comfort thing was the reason I mourned the loss of the sportsbike (CBR600F, Thundercat, gen 1 or 2 R6, ZX9R) in favour of a race bike for the road (CBR1000RR, ZX10)
Sportbikes can be made more comfortable with Heli bars and aftermarket rearsets but the manufacturers should offer optional ergos to keep sales going before they discontinue the bike for poor sales😎
The best daily in my honest opinion is a 2012+ WR450F. Even on knobbies it’s a blast. Is an Africa twin more comfortable? Absolutely, but the WR is so much fun and perfect for small commutes to and from work. Throw in a few wheelies here and there and you’ll never regret getting one.
i had a naked bike, it wasn't as good a commuter as my zx6r, my sportbike has fairings so you barely feel the wind, and i can rest on the tank on the highway
The ergonomics and riding comfort of my gen 4 ZX10R allows me many painless hours in the saddle compared to upright seating bikes.
Hehe..mine is a sports tourer, Ninja 300. So I never face any issue while going to office, gym or groceries.
I daily a FZ1. Best of both worlds
How is it? Is it the same engine as the R1? How are the ergonomics?
I love it. It's a detuned R1 engine, thicker head gasket to lower compression and smaller carbs. In this setup, the engines last way longer and require way less maintenance despite only losing a few ponies. It's the most comfortable bike I've ridden. Perfect seating position IMO. Relaxed and comfortable but you can still tuck in easily enough
@@boxtruckman2929 been eyeballing one for a while now. think you just sold it for me xD
Glad to help haha. You can find them in great condition for sub $4k pretty easily. Best of luck and keep the shiny side up
Dad-bike, concourse 1400, hard bags for groceries. Sort of a fast bike.
A 150hp 4-cylinder in a 650 # (Ninja with larger fairings and detachable bags) is a “sort of fast” motorcycle for “Dads”. Alrighty then.
20 years ago if you wanted a performance based machine you really had no choice but a dedicated sport bike. Nowadays the standard/naked category has gotten so good I don't see a need for them unless you want a track machine. Also the sport touring segment is gotten much better with the advent of the XR, Multistrada, Super Duke GT, etc.
Bro my fz6r is king. Love that thing. Super peppy. Leans in amazingly. Crazy torque although it starts at like 7k rpm. And the seats super comfortable.
Super sports and sport bikes are different. I ride a sport touring like an adv bike. I so want a new Buell super touring. I get gas every other day. Unless on the old 360 2 stroke. I have my own 2 stroke dance at the gas pump.