3D Printing in 2 Colors with OpenSCAD and Simplify3D
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- I modified a parametric box from Thingiverse so I could print in 2 colors on my Flasforge Creator Pro. I used OpenSCAD to do the modifications, and Simplify3D to slice everything. The boxes turned out incredible!
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Quick tip for you Joel. If you double click on an object in Simplify3D it will bring up a menu with numbers for you to adjust position, scale, and rotation. Much easier to align things.
+Nick Moretto Yes! I know to do that, and ALWAYS do that, and I cannot believe I didn't think to do that here. Dang it. :)
I got a hulk model from thingiverse, used the laso in meshmixer to 'cut' the legs and torso off so i could do him in green and pants in blue. As for joining, i just printed the two models overlaying, green on right blue on left tool heads, and then let the slicer sort it out.
Print came out perfect and as strong as if it had been a single part.
So much good information AND the "Pause" and "Rewind" buttons you've asked RUclips to include makes Viewing and REVIEWING a snap. All kidding aside I'm impressed you "went deep" and took us with. Thanks for the ride and -
Thanks for sharing...
Good stuff.. i have been really meaning to try and learn OpenSCAD :D Ill put some more work into it!
Almost 20k subs! Good to see!
how do you prevent oozing? I tried printing with dual extruder but the inactive extruder would ooze onto the part
Really enjoy these kind of videos, Joel. You sold me on Simplify3D (a choice I have not regretted) and seeing clever tricks like this and the Ghost video really showcase things you cna do. Just ordered some Boots Premium PLA to try this weekend. Next up is trying to create my own STL file. #HIGHFIVE
Glad to hear you got your FFCP back online. This was a great project to bring it back to life with. Thanks for sharing it! #highfive
+Adam Macey Thanks! It was a neat project - something I did almost a year ago! I just found the footage and thought it was time to put the video together.
Ah, so is the FFCP still offline then??
Adam Macey NO! Totally fixed! Working on a new video 3d printing the Hamilton musical logos on it!
AH that was good. Learning more about Simplified is much needed.
+Mark Reyes (Mark the Jeweler) Thank you! I LOVE doing videos like this!
Highfive from Germany Joel! I Realy like ur chanel !! keep on going !
it is called a finger joint. Dovetail is different shape. This finger joint is really strong because the layers are a few dozen microns off of each other(unlike wood where you need more space to slide pieces together). They also are also milted together in some parts most likely.
+Jake Abel That's right! Thank you!
More like this please. Techniques, tools. You could go deeper with OpenSCAD and screencast for example. Could try a number of joining designs and strength test them to failure. Better than just unboxing another printer or printing something massive.
+Andrew Cox YES! I love doing these sorts of videos. I still need to do unboxing and massive print videos because those are quite popular on the channel. However, I'm going to prioritize technical videos higher and try to get more of them out. That's the goal!
Hey Joel, I've recently stumbled across your channel, and your videos are informative and interesting! You mentioned that you used the Flashforge Pro for this project, and I was actually looking at getting a Flashforge Pro as a solid first 3d printer. Do you recommend it?
Another great vid Joel. HIGHFIVE!
+Spike Kent #HIGHFIVE
I don't know if you can do this in S3D. In Marlin I enter object position manually and since you're using single object that was split in halves, entering the same numbers for both halves would result in them being perfectly aligned.
Yes , thanks great video.
Cool tongue and grove joint. Maybe you could print and impossible dovetail joint ie a box made from two pieces but joint by dovetails on each side such that you could never put it together except by 3D printing it. If you made the space between the models just right the parts could be separated so they would wiggle and appear to have been assemble. It would be cool in two colours as we'll to heigh light the different parts.
Could you print vertical woodgrain using wood filament in both extruders. set at different temps?
+Lyonhardht Yes, that would work! In fact, Anthony over at The Hot End did that when he 3d printed a digeridoo
You can use edit to align two objects for dual extrusion is step of doing the sketchy pick and place technique. Simplify has a tutorial going over how.
Just a hint: There is a dual extrusion assistent in Simplify3d under extras. That makes life much easyer ;) (and more precise prints)
+The Xack Hey! Oh, I know about that thing, it's SO cool. Unfortunately, for this, the Dual Extrusion assistant doesn't work. The dual extrusion assistant is assuming to the two parts to be printed are going to be on top of one another. These were side by side.
+3D Printing Nerd Hm... I think it uses the Origin of the model for positioning on dual extrusion, maybe somethings wrong with that... could you upload the files? I'm curious what could be the reason ;) one more thing (you probably know that but maybe it helps someone reading this comment): if you double click the object in the simplify3D build space you can move it by editing the x,y,z coordinates. BTW Sub ;)
Grazie Mobile is genius! its a shame, that beautiful ideas like that just lack funding or aren't in the right place at the right time.
this video is right on time for me im updrading my prusa i3 to dual extruder this weekend! thanks! HIGHFIVE
If you are somehow able to export it from OpenSCAD where the models are together in 1 STL file or have geometry indicating that they are together then you don't need to line them up. I printed a butterfly -- actually in 4 colors, I had the butterfly body with holes for where the colored dots in the wings were, then the dots had positions so that they line up with the holes. Then if you tell S3D not to move your models on insert and import all the models together, then you get them orientated together. Then you can group them and position them on the bed -- I did that with the butterfly body, the dots, and then using your trick of color layering, I added the outline and some more detail in 2 more colors. Really fun print -- time consuming as I had to setup 2 colors first then again with 2 more colors. I'm surprised you could print without the ooze shield, I get a lot of color bleed, maybe need more retraction on extruder change.
+kazolar good point on the two stl export and then the grouping.
+kazolar This is GREAT info! To be honest, I did the work in OpenSCAD about a year ago. I've learned a LOT since then, and this is how I would go about it. You're so right.
Hey Joel what is the best 3D printer for a new user, that wants a printer that can print all materials. Also under 700 dollars. Sorry if I'm asking for to much but I want a good printer but can't justify one that's over 700 dollars.
can you do a video on which 3d printer you should buy and what you need to take into account while buying a printer?
+fauxbug nl That's the plan, it's in the queue!
Almost 20k! I think everyone loves scooby snacks. Lol. I just found your second channel. What was the video playing in the background at the very end.
+Panoreth 3D Printing My second channel? You mean my very, very first channel that I've had since 2006? :) In this video, the one playing at the end was one of the club nights my buddy and I hosted when we had our startup company!
+3D Printing Nerd lol, i mean other
Could there be a Tardis printing out of frame?
Its called a tongue and groove joint. Ancient wood working technique.
why didn't you use the dual extrusion wizard of simplify 3d?
+MasterMatt I just didn't this time. I've used it before, but, just not this time. No specific reason.
Excellent video #highfive.
Quick question though. When you going to make the lunge and get a E3D Kraken? 4 Extruders FTW :D
+Christopher Reed right?!?! how cool would that be!
+3D Printing Nerd It would be EPIC! Not sure if anyone has gotten it setup to use all 4 print heads, mind you I haven't looked. It looks sweet though let me tell you. Mind you, I don't have a 3D printer...Yet. But I just so happen to be designing a 3D Printer (personal use) around the Kraken. Already have the Kraken in a box, but small budget so it's Slooooooow! Hope to continue work on it one day and will share results.
So you're filming your timelapse with your Gopro and you charge it while filming. But how do you get that to work? My Gopro just won't film and charge at the same time. Gopro even send me a new one but it just won't work. How do you do it?
And again, great video ;)
And of course a high five from Germany :D
+BLACKY Wait, yours will NOT film and charge at the same time? Really? While it's running, I plug in the USB cord. That's it. I have to plug it into a wall adapter, and NOT a computer.
+BLACKY RETURN FIVE from the states!
+3D Printing Nerd That's all I do. I tried different chargers and cables but it just won't work. Dang it!
BLACKY Poop. That sucks. I'm sorry.
Awesome videos Joel! Double HIGH FIVE!
I'm beginning to learn Simplify3D on a WanHao i3.... coming from a Makerbot machine, I have so much to learn.... It would help me a lot if you care to share your Wanhao machine profile for Simplify3D... There's so much settings!!!
+WayCool ALL THE SETTINGS! For the Di3, I used the default profile in Simplify3D - that's it! #ReturnFive
Hey! I bought that Simplify3D program, because it is so much lauded. I think a great program, but there are small flaws.
What should not be 150 € in the program.
On the exterior dimensions and in recitals holes do not stay down in dimensions.
And for that defect, is not able to correct the settings. I do not think that is due to my printer.
Of that there is no harm if I printed out only decorative objects. In fact, I printed out the mechanical parts, so there is at least to me of great importance.
Thank you for outstanding videos !! HighFive!!
How do you keep one extruder from oozing while the other is running? Seems I read a bunch about that problem around the net.
+Dark Alchemist In this application, I got the temp AND the retraction JUST RIGHT. Don't worry, when I was doing a lot of dual extrusion printing, I had a LOT of printed things with colors where they didn't quite below :)
3D Printing Nerd
LOL. I never understood how they wouldn't just drip out if they are just sitting there idle waiting for their turn. Only way I could think would be to have a sliding door like thing to close when it isn't needed and open right before it is but I bet blobs would happen.
+Dark Alchemist I don't quite understand it myself.
+Dark Alchemist You mean like that? www.thingiverse.com/thing:1362557
Watch the video, it works amazingly well!
Julien Dodokal
Yep, like that only I never would have thought of the panning method. Mine would have been the blocker moving towards the nozzle not the nozzle towards it.
That was a nice video. As I have a little experience with dual extruders, might I add some suggestions? It makes for better (harder) parts if you insert one material part into the other a little more - say, 0.4mm or 0.8mm inside. This way it won't bulge too much and the fused materials will stick with much more force. This is specially important for articulated parts (e.g one part rigid material, other part flexible material). This can be done in the slicer as you did, but is more robust if done in the model and leads to more exact parts.
Also, I noticed that you had to manually align the different materials (let's not say just "colors" - dual extruders are sooo more capable than that!). Is this really necessary? When you design the parts in openscad, it automatically export them to STL using proper coordinates. I understand that as you loaded them as STLs simplify3d would never guess they are part of the same object, but you can get the STLs and join then in an AMF file (which is a format accepted in most slicers for double extrusion) and this problem would never ensue. One way to join the two STL files, since they will be under the proper coordinates, is installing slic3r - which I highly recommend as an alternative, since I am concerned that the 3d printing ecosystem is becoming increasingly "monocultural" due to simplify3d - and use its command-line utility stl-to-amf to convert your stl files to AMF, or doing it inside its interface ( manual.slic3r.org/expert-mode/multiple-extruders ).
Also, if one is interested in dual-extrusion models, I highly recommend this 3ders article: www.3ders.org/articles/20160310-top-30-best-dual-extruder-multicolor-3d-prints.html
+1, nice comments.
+Maker Linux THANK YOU for this wonderful comment! I did this initially almost 1 year ago, and it's amazing how much I've learned in that one year. I love this idea, and I'll do it this way if I project in the future needs it. Again, thank you!
Nice
Dual extruders = Twice the headache = Three times the fun! #HighFive
+Richard T only twice? I bet it's more than twice. :)
+3D Printing Nerd Indeed, but I was trying to be a good boy and not tell you how I REALLY feel about double extruders ... after all children may be watching ;)
Have you ever done a review on the cube pro trio ?
+brettcollectibles Hmm, no I haven't.
+3D Printing Nerd,I have one which was quite expensive.It does 3 colors at a time.It holds 3 diff spools inside the casing.I have pla&abs.it's really nice looking with a nice size platform& looks like something apple would make.anyway I prob shouldn't have bought it cause I know nothing about computers and was thinking that the program's that I bought with it would already have item in it that I could just click and print.But the programs are for making designs which are pretty good.I'm an idiot when it comes to computers&don't know about making files and transfer it to here and make it to there etc etc.I'm an hands on person&can't grasp a thing reading instructions.so I'm good once I see someone do it.Between the filament extra stick glue&usb sticks for saving and transferring(don't know what it's called,told u I was dumb with comp)well when I was done it was around $10k.I think the machine was around $6k.It's nice so try to get one donated for a review.Thanks for the respond
do you ever sleep joel?
what if you had 1 clor on the inside and the other on the outside
Instead of aligning them by hand wouldn't the dual extrusion wizard have done the job ?
+Webdevvie Um... I'm not sure. I think the dual extrusion wizard is the same as holding shift while clicking the "center on build plate button". This was all thought up and done about a year ago, before I knew most of what I know now. When I get home from work I'll try with the dual extrusion wizard.
+Webdevvie Ah there we go. It's based on the model origins. Got it.
Now, will this work if I take the head from my M3D printer and duck tape it to my Duplicator i3? hahahaha [Digital Digital Dual Dual High High Five Five]
How can people dislike useful videos like this one :( #HIGHFIVE
+Peter Keijzer (Hardcore4Life) Those people are robots!
Yeah i guess so. Glad that I am not a robot hehe.
Peter Keijzer Me too, dude. Me too.
#highfive keep up the good work
Real printer hours?
+Chase Maimbourg (fatel28) Do you mean how long did the print really take? It was a little more than 4 hours.
Good Stuff, Joel!!! First to spell your name right!!! #PainfulHigh5
+thedarknightiscoming #SoothingReturnFive
I don't understand why you need to do a tongue and joint unless they are different materials that don't adhere to each other.
+Malcolm Hunter I had to the that because the models would just be printing next to each other, and the horizontal adherence at the point would be almost nonexistent.
+3D Printing Nerd So you could get around that by turning them through 90 degrees, but then you'd need supports for the final horizontal.
Malcolm Hunter That's correct. I didn't want supports. I have having to print support materials! I mean, I know it has to be done at times, but, I just hate it.
3D Printing Nerd I always orient my prints to minimize supports. You never get the same quality where the support meets the model. Not sure if you can improve that with s3d
Malcolm Hunter I've found that I can get really close. I can adjust the gap distance between the support and the piece, plus, kick in the fan. It seems to work well.
Its called tongue and grove.
Doh hmm turns out not an original idea there are heaps of impossible dovetail joints on thingiverse ... Still kind off cool ps ...... HIGH FIVE ..... or the game we play with our kids..... Give me high 5, now on the side, down low ... Oh too slow ....
not giving the creator of Openscad file the proper creds is not not ok.
nice Joe. first comment
+Hobby at home You forgot the L!
+3D Printing Nerd good video Joe L ;p
+zak robbins Hahahahaha. :) Thank you!