I’m sorry if this is a dumb question but this being a MILITARY BASE... I’m wondering how there couldn’t be any surveillance cameras in the room she was last seen in or any footage at all from that day
As a service member myself, Most military bases do not not have cameras. Especially Fort Hood. I think it is weird too but I believe it has to do with the high personnel presence, military police, and supposed trust in your fellow soldiers that are supposed to have the mentality that they would die for you. There will always be bad people in this world and I believe that there were other soldiers that provided the cover needed for that horrible man to escape. It’s not a coincidence and perfect timing but the army will always cover their ass. Vanessa did not deserve to die and I hope they find her justice.
Gemma Sandoval Oh I’m sure there were definitely cameras that showed something, what that something is not sure, you would also definitely think a camera would be in a room that contains nothing but fire arms wouldn’t you think? And how Ft Hood can get away with not handing those surveillance footage over.
Not only is it a military base, it’s the largest one!!!! Having no CCTV in bases is ignorant. They need to start being proactive instead of reactive!!!
Protect and serve? That's the cops. A solider vows to defend their country from enemies both foreign and domestic. My question about Vanessa is why was she transferred three times in two years? My guess is she received a" hardship" reassignment.
Well we cannot control everybody and every person. They could not control this guy obviously he was stalking her and obsessed with her probably mad that she kept refusing his advances. Maybe he raped her then killled her but it seems he was stalking her and coming on to her and she didn't like it but he would not stop. He probably killled her somewhere on base it is huge than put her body in something and drove off with it. The only thing I think they could do is one move him to another base which would make him mad or move her to another base if she wanted to. Or the cops would have to issue and get a restraining order on him which that does not work in a lot of cases but all you can really do. This is like women that get a restraining order and they still get killled by person but the cops and people cannot stop them and follow this person 24/7 all day long. All she could do is move or him move which would probably make him even more mad and maybe want to hurt her. I think he killled her though because she was refusing his advances and he wanted her he also might have raped her and then killled her or he tried to and she was fighting him and he killled her
I just can’t imagine the fear in her eyes. Bless her heart. I also think he killed himself because he knew more than he told. I think there were other people involved because how do they dismember her body and no one see the blood?
I think it was premeditated. He would’ve had blood all over his clothes after he left that room! He must have switched clothing. Also Cecily told authorities that when Aaron opened the tough box she recognized the body as Vanessas..she was bludgeoned in the head multiple times w a hammer and stuffed in a box and showed to u hours later..how is that even possible?????
Anna G those questions don’t add up, I am so glad people are seeing that. Do you think AR could have hit Vanessa in the arms room, taken her body out in tough box to Leon river where CA says she “recognized Vanessa”? You’re right how could CA have recognized her if AR beat her in arms room?
@Layla Lyles I agree it absolutely seems others must have been involved. According to CA’s arrest affidavit she helped AR dismember Vanessa’s remains at Leon river.
Fort Hood needs to be shutdown. Not only is it disgusting that they’re trying to cover up Vanessa’s murder, there’s another fellow Latino soldier that went missing and ends up dead, and there’s some sketchy underground work going on there!!
What happened to Vanessa is a disgrace. It is a horrible tragedy that she was victimized and murdered. Multiple soldiers have gone missing from FH in addition to being victimized in multiple ways. The last thing that needs to happen is closing FH. If that occurred all the predators and those involved in serious crimes would be sent to posts all over the country. What the POTUS is doing is correct. Post Commander was scheduled to transfer to Fort Bliss. The POTUS removed him from his position and blocked his transfer. The roof needs to be torn off FH. Every soldier within the ranks of 40K stationed there that is involved in this crime and any criminal activity need to be removed and sent to Leavenworth.
Vanessa story has been spreading through every social media outlet before her video. She’s just another white privileged white girl who is profiting off a brown woman murder. This video is not enough. Use your white privilege to make a change, that’s if you even really care.
Just so y’all know, Aaron isn’t a ‘special agent’, he’s a specialist, which is the rank after Private First Class. It’s a relatively low rank, only a couple years in service usually. I know that it doesn’t seem super important, but he’s an even lower rank than a sergeant, which means that he isn’t the sergeant that was sexually harassing her
@@mozelie9531 he was just a puppet. They were using him n the other girl as a cover up to save their own asses. That story they said is bullshit. We may never TRULY know HOW and WHY they killed her and WHO really did it
It was such a coward move for Aaron to end his life. Like what was he hiding? Why did he kill Vanessa? We need answers! Vanessas family needs answers!!!
I feel like he was a puppet. There may be some higher ups that actually committed this crime, but used aaron as a scape goat! A higher up was harassing her ...
Yes. Who called Vanessa into work? Who was aware AR was going to be alone in arms room? I’m so glad I heard Lupe recently say she wants Vanessa’s chain of command to directly answer her questions.
Evening next información i wanna know who was responsible for putting them in the room together after clearly someone (the lawyer) was aware of the harassment
Cecily knew EVERYTHING and was making all those "proud", "edgy", carefree posts...all while Vanessa's poor family was desperately looking for answers to what had happened to her. And she didn't give a shit about them. Makes me sick.
not to mention the fact that she comes from a Latin family, out of every career there was waiting for her arrival, she chose to serve a country that she was blessed to be born in, having so many advantages, only to be dishonored in the most outrageous way. My prayers go among her family. 💔 no family and I mean NO FAMILIA should EVER go through this, especially hers, considering her family came to this country to seek asylum, just to be led down by the new american generation she was starting to create. she put all her will to sacrifice herself by serving this country, the country that she was in favor devoted into. However, when it came to the base handling the situation, they did absolutely NOTHING, for justice. I’m truly disappointed by how the base handled the situation. If only she knew that her former alibis did nothing to get justice for her. Me and my family would also be mad disappointed that she didn’t get any support from the base when it came to evidence, whatsoever. May she Rest In Peace. QUE VIVA LA RAZA!! 🇲🇽❤️
I dont think her being of Latin decent has anything to do with anything. The man who killed her was black and had a girlfriend that was also of Latin decent. That beautiful girl was an American and there are evil people everywhere you go regardless of ethnic background. It is something people that have good hearts and morals have to deal with. Im not sure of the narrative but regardless they need to step up MP at all times and even though that is not the higher up who was sexually harassing her, they must practice professionalism and guidelines for such harassment.
Vanessa's mom has been saying more higher ups are involved, and that they used Aaron to do the murder, also what happened with Aaron?? Nobody has talked about him since he "killed himself" Vanessa's mom also said that some higher ups have been moved from foort hood, why??
The evidence points to higher ups... not sure Aaron actually committed the crime.. no evidence of this.. just that he dismembered and buried her... her supervisor was replaced on June 19th.
Same thing came to my mind. The people responsible didn't expect that this story would go viral! Therefore, something had to be done. Someone had to take the blame. God Knows best... it just doesn't feel right. May God give her family strength to keep going. Ameen
I actually know Cecily from my hometown in Michigan, before she moved to Texas. It's crazy to me that she even did this and that she's also trying to escape prison as well. My heart breaks for Vanessa's family 🥺
As much as people would like, they won’t shut down fort hood. Sketchy stuff happens everywhere in the military. My husband was stationed there & he did tours in Iraq & Afghanistan. You should hear the things that happen overseas.
You don't shut a base down that is stupid you change things if they need to be changed. It is the biggest base in the world with lots of people that work on there of course things are going to happen sometimes. But if something needs to be changed than you change it not shut the building/area down lol
What happened to Vanessa is a disgrace and tragedy. Multiple soldiers have gone missing from FH in addition to being victimized. Closing FH would ensure predators and those involved in serious crimes would be sent to posts all over the country. What the POTUS is doing is correct. Post Commander was scheduled to transfer to Fort Bliss. The POTUS removed him from his position and blocked his transfer. The roof needs to be torn off FH. Every soldier within the ranks of 40K stationed there that is involved in this crime and any criminal activity need to be removed and sent to Leavenworth.
My thing is if Aaron did “shoot himself” where is the body? Why didn’t they show the body camera of him doing this? Where is the evidence that he truly did this to himself? Why haven’t they had an obituary or something? I don’t buy that he really is dead. All of this is a big cover up and I pray all this comes to light soon.
I joined the Latin Kings when I was 9 years old in Chicago and I've done some unspeakable things throughout that time but this is truly unpardonable to me and if I could've stopped it I would've done this to him or worse.
This case is just so crazy smh sad how she wasn’t even protected and the army didn’t even care to shut everything down to look for Vanessa but if a gun goes missing the base is shut down 🤦🏻♀️ It should be the same way they know something reason why they didn’t care to look for her correctly!
There’s definitely an upper person involved. Yesterday I watched an Interview of Vanessa’s mom speaking after her memorial service she says something along the lines In Spanish “they moved him, we know who he is. They have lied to us and we won’t stop until every perpetrator is exposed” she didn’t elaborate much on the details but my guess is this person who was moved was transferred and that leads me to believe it could possibly be the person who called her in. (Most likely a superior)
Name the person that were move what his name they cover everything the so called good old boy stick to gether always. Ft Hood is a bad place to b have many problems.
I have been waiting for this ever since I saw the mugshot from the killer. By the way, You and Eleanor Neale are the actual best True Crime youtubers. ❤️
How come she can’t she was already dead sure enough but she tried to burn her body I mean she probably would of took part in killing Vanessa if she was there when she died so yeah she should be charged with murder or at lease tapering with evidence.
Damn she posts a lot of pictures of herself everyday + i saw Kendall Reas video and she said that the army base was keeping secrets from the police because they did not let police see the cameras of that day and said the people at the base saw the cameras and said nothing was wrong, that base has a lot of weird cases of people disappearing.
I don’t believe the selfies are the problem I believe it’s what she’s captioning under the selfie. Just saying I mean this Savannah chick posts nothing but selfies as well 🤷🏻♀️ Plus everyone perseves themselves a certain way in social media so yeah she might make herself “greater than though” but doesn’t everyone? What makes Cecily a horrible human being is the fact that she can do that to another human being. It’s just horrific. Vanessas family needs justice.
Joe Sanchez I agree she did a great job and I never said she did a bad job. She clearly did her research and did a fine job telling the story. I was more saying this bc those two title are in two separate branches of government (Army/military & CIA). Was saying it more to inform and not to be a Dick
also in the valley the murals are perfectly done I know some of the Guillén family and helped them come down to see the murals with large supporting friends in our communities
There’s for sure more than what’s being told . Being someone who debated on going to the military for the benefits or getting in debt with medical college & days later reading SO many stories of females being harassed , raped , etc .. it’s definitely not worth it . I just pray Vanessa’s family gets ALL the answers some day .
I truly believe she was murdered by the Sergeant who harassed her and had Aaron clean it up. I feel they are not being truthful about anything. Rest in peace Vanessa. You did not deserve this!!!
My boyfriend is in the Army and he said she should’ve never have been alone.The place where he is stationed they make everyone take a “buddy” to the bathroom, etc. They started this because of sexual assault, if she had someone with her this probably wouldn’t of happened, this is so sad.
He could have told her that’s what Vanessa was planning on doing. So that’s why she helped him. Idk. Either way she deserves to be in jail for the rest of her life.
My husband is a specialist as well, and believe me, he does not get to ask higher ups to schedule someone in. That is completely up to the superior sergeants. This is why I believe someone either told him to do it or he was assisted in murdering her by a higher up.
Wow, I've seen several videos about this young woman's murder, but your video is by far the most detailed. What happened to her is nothing short of disgusting. And I feel so bad for her and her family. Rest in Peace, Beautiful. You did not ask for or deserve what happened to you. And I hope that girl gets nothing short of a life sentence.
This women's murder was unjustified that's what. If one of your loved ones was harrassed sexually and dissapeared, you would have been outrage also if you were keep in the dark without being told the truth.
Y’all this case really hurts my heart, I myself am a Latina Army Veteran and see myself in her. This should have never happen and I completely hold Fort Hood Accountable. Also this case is also why in the military they stress so much the importance of battle buddies travel in pairs everywhere you go on and off base. This by no means is me saying it was her battle buddies fault this is her chain of command failing her. Period. Accountability is even more stressed in the military. And her NCO’s failed her too. Battles take care of your battles please.
You should definitely look into the LaVena Johnson case! She was in the army and was found dead in her tent in Iraq in 2005. The army ruled it a suicide but her family has been fighting for justice ever since.
Literal tears rolling down my face as I'm watching this video. Thank you for doing such an amazing job at spreading awareness for Vanessa's case. #JusticeForVanessaGuillen
I was sexually assaulted in the army a year ago (still in the army) and nothing was done. The command wasn’t supportive either. We need justice for us all
What if she was alive when he put her in the box? That would explain the lack of a bloody crime scene in the arms room. He could have incapacitated her somehow and put her in the box to kill her at a more secure location. Sad he will never pay for this. I hope Cicely gets just punishment at least. Such a tragedy. RIP Vanessa 😢
So fkn wierd. The second I read your comment, someone on a Netflix show I was watching was told to wipe away the Dorito dust in his beard. This shit is really crazy.
I spent almost an hour trying to find your channel because I couldn’t remember your name. I thought I was subscribed but apparently I wasn’t. Anyways no one explains the cases as great as you do so I’m so glad I found your channel again.
This story hits different for me since it involves the army. My husband is in the army so just talking about the tough box knowing I have one sitting in my garage right now with all his gear in it... I just can't imagine how heartless by has to be to discard her the way they did.
Aaron was put on what’s called “restriction” in the military for pending legal adjudication. And people “escape” restriction all the time... nothing is preventing them from just walking out and they’re only “checked” on every two hours, aka knocking on their door to make sure they’re still in there.
I honestly believe that he was attracted to her. Vanessa didn't want him and he couldn't handle the rejection so instead he was sexually assaulting her. Then his so-called girlfriend was jealous of her because she knew that he likes her. Which is why she helped him with his murder
Arms room are usually sound proof ! Of what I have heard ! This man is sick!! So sad to know he got away with it all !! I pray for peace for her family and everyone involved💗
I feel you! This case really frustrates me because I was expecting a good outcome. And it’s so unfair how Vanessa won’t get to tell her story but Cecily gets to tell one. Idk if that makes sense but I’m just so upset and sad. Vanessa deserves justice!! Thank you for covering this case
Her story literally breaks my heart every time I hear it and the sad thing is that she wanted to be in the army to protect the very same country that failed to protect her since she was a little girl RIP Vanessa Guillen
I believe Aaron and the others involved planned this wanting to take advantage of Vanessa and then getting rid of her, thinking they were going to get away with it, like you say it was pre meditated, it was planned. RIP Vanessa Guillen
Struggled to watch the entire thing, literally has me shaking !! My heart hurts for her- but also for her loved ones because that’s a type of closer no one can bring them to not be able to reach her! I know no mothers love will repair after this type of loss! May she rest when this is said and done! The karma that await that girl in prison is going to be great!! I hope you keep us updated as the case goes on!! Just wow!!
I'm a bell county resident and this happened 6 min away from my place. I visited the place where they found her. Sad. God bless her. Ps. They found another soldier body while looking for venessa.
Savannah I love your voice! When I worked night shifts I couldn’t sleep during the day and i found your podcasts and duuuude listening to your stories and your calm voice literallllllly soothed me lol !!! Thank you for your videos you are awesome!!!!
She might believe the “real motive” was about exposing their relationship because that’s what he told her to get her to help him get rid of the body. He made it seem like he was protecting their relationship. Disgusting and so heartbreaking!!
I was thinking you update ASAP, but late is better then never. SAV great videos thanks for your work I know it’s exhausting, finding the time, gathering knowledge, recording, and then edit 🥵 it’s a lot! Keep ‘me coming ✌🏽☮️
I love your channel. Ur amazing. Mental health is very important good for u to using ur platform, amazing. I just want to say I sympathize with this story n the story of the two that were found in suitcases by tik tok app in Seattle. My bf n I met at 12 in 92 n last September she was murdered n discarded in 50 gal drum, first a tote then the drum n kept locked in her murders family garage. My bf it broke my heart. I feel better the more I talk about it, cus I NVR felt pain like that except when my mother passed away. Ik my mother has her n their together. I thank God our daughters are friends n it warms my heart the relationship they have n I remember my bf for her she was, not how she died or disposed of. The monster confessed n is in jail. Plead not guilty? Waiting for his trial. God bless u for u putting out stories like this.
20 year?!? She needs more year she doesn’t deserve to be free! She should get more for lying, and plus year that Aaron was suppose to get. The family needs justice!
I love your videos! This case really got to me. I feel such a strong connection towards Vanessa. When I heard that they found her body and announced how she was killed, I literally teared up. Thank you for spreading awareness about her case! 🥰
This is so sad and painful that we are living in a world where people kill each other up until today. There is just no excuse to kill someone. I hope there will be the time when this can end forever. Thank you for the video
The disturbing fact is that you’re not even safe in a military base!!! During lockdown!!! This just shows that people in the world are cruel and absolutely sick it makes me sick to my stomach. This base should be shut down and how the hell can there not be any cameras or any form of security cameras at a military base
I’m from Tyler tx and we did a March for her back on the 9th of July and it was very touching seeing the whole community come together her family is not alone Vanessa is not alone the whole world is with her is very sad how her life was taking away just like that no one should ever go through that #ripvanessa
Im in the national guard and this last drill weekend we had a meeting and talked about this case and what happend. I was shocked that this happend actually on a base. So sad,rest in peace.
Just a few things for you to understand the military better...and to how worse this all is. 1. There are no "special agents" in the Armory. Special Agents are federal. This guy was a soldier (a Specialist...a very junior rank in the Army) 2. Motorpool...is where we keep ALL vehicles (not some)...including Strykers if it is a Stryker Unit. This is where Maintenance, storage, and prep is done on all and any vehicles. They are huge....picture 100 Humvees and 25 Strykers. 3. your missing...the Armory...is the most secure place in any building. There is usually a lot of traffic that passes in front of the armory cage (usually a cage or walk in safe). These armorys are not usually in remote places...as in everyone in the Unit will walk past the entrance numerous times a day. Highly visible area. It is also not a good practice to have 1 soldier in the Arms room at a time. And Civilians are forbidden to enter...so someone seeing a gf in there....huge problem 4. Cheating on a spouse...you need proof as in video tape of the sexual act. Also cheating happens often with junior enlisted and junior officers. Cheating really doesn't negatively impacts your career...unless high ranking or in a high position. An E4 would get probably zero reprimand. 5. Soldiers aren't "scheduled" to work...it in not like being a server. Usually placement of soldiers are done by the Commander giving his objective for the day. ..then the 1st Sergeant's getting it done. It is unlikely that an E4 made the decision of putting her there. A lot goes into it....commanders intent, Battalion Commander's needs, company responsibilities, soldiers on takings. Very very unlikely that an E4 would have authority to place a soldier somewhere. 6. The armor room doesn't have a door...it has a vault. This vault is usually left open with a chained door so the room is visible. Highly unlikely someone didn't hear or see something. 7. You should not really speak on what the military does and does not do with sexual harassment. We, with any organization, can do better, but you didn't even touch on anything the military does to prevent sexual harassment. In my 15 years....2 cases....one was male vs male. The other was a low ranking soldier having an affair with a high ranking officer. Not saying it is a problem, but you are speaking on something you know zero about. You didn't even mention SHARP. You should research more about the military.
The fact that her body was found like that was absolutely heartbreaking
HAHAHAH I say it was funny 😂 they found her body in pieces LOL
Exotiic Erick wtf is wrong with you? Have some respect.
Exotiic Erick yeah... your karma about to be REAL.
@@Erick-wj1fr you need to go to a minister and ask him to pray the devil out of you.
@@Erick-wj1fr disgusting tf
I’m sorry if this is a dumb question but this being a MILITARY BASE... I’m wondering how there couldn’t be any surveillance cameras in the room she was last seen in or any footage at all from that day
As a service member myself, Most military bases do not not have cameras. Especially Fort Hood. I think it is weird too but I believe it has to do with the high personnel presence, military police, and supposed trust in your fellow soldiers that are supposed to have the mentality that they would die for you. There will always be bad people in this world and I believe that there were other soldiers that provided the cover needed for that horrible man to escape. It’s not a coincidence and perfect timing but the army will always cover their ass. Vanessa did not deserve to die and I hope they find her justice.
Gemma Sandoval Oh I’m sure there were definitely cameras that showed something, what that something is not sure, you would also definitely think a camera would be in a room that contains nothing but fire arms wouldn’t you think? And how Ft Hood can get away with not handing those surveillance footage over.
Not only is it a military base, it’s the largest one!!!! Having no CCTV in bases is ignorant. They need to start being proactive instead of reactive!!!
that's not a dumb question at all. That's actually a question that anyone with logic would ask
You'd be surprised how many military facilities don't have surveillance cameras. Government wouldn't want to pay for it.
“She’s vowed to protect and serve a country that didn’t didn’t do the same for her.” Exactly 💔
Protect and serve? That's the cops. A solider vows to defend their country from enemies both foreign and domestic. My question about Vanessa is why was she transferred three times in two years? My guess is she received a" hardship" reassignment.
The bad/evil people won't escape all the time! They will be punished!
@GG Jones yeah its sad i haven't even heard one Latino celebrity talk about this
Well we cannot control everybody and every person. They could not control this guy obviously he was stalking her and obsessed with her probably mad that she kept refusing his advances. Maybe he raped her then killled her but it seems he was stalking her and coming on to her and she didn't like it but he would not stop. He probably killled her somewhere on base it is huge than put her body in something and drove off with it. The only thing I think they could do is one move him to another base which would make him mad or move her to another base if she wanted to. Or the cops would have to issue and get a restraining order on him which that does not work in a lot of cases but all you can really do. This is like women that get a restraining order and they still get killled by person but the cops and people cannot stop them and follow this person 24/7 all day long. All she could do is move or him move which would probably make him even more mad and maybe want to hurt her. I think he killled her though because she was refusing his advances and he wanted her he also might have raped her and then killled her or he tried to and she was fighting him and he killled her
@GG Jones
Salma Hayek have spoke about this case.
I just can’t imagine the fear in her eyes. Bless her heart. I also think he killed himself because he knew more than he told. I think there were other people involved because how do they dismember her body and no one see the blood?
They did it out in the woods, Im sure it could be easily covered up.
I think it was premeditated. He would’ve had blood all over his clothes after he left that room! He must have switched clothing. Also Cecily told authorities that when Aaron opened the tough box she recognized the body as Vanessas..she was bludgeoned in the head multiple times w a hammer and stuffed in a box and showed to u hours later..how is that even possible?????
Anna G those questions don’t add up, I am so glad people are seeing that. Do you think AR could have hit Vanessa in the arms room, taken her body out in tough box to Leon river where CA says she “recognized Vanessa”? You’re right how could CA have recognized her if AR beat her in arms room?
@Layla Lyles I agree it absolutely seems others must have been involved. According to CA’s arrest affidavit she helped AR dismember Vanessa’s remains at Leon river.
Didn't this happen to another male soldier not too long ago? He was also dismembered. The hell is going on?
This story breaks my heart. She swore to protect her country & her country failed her..
Fort Hood needs to be shutdown. Not only is it disgusting that they’re trying to cover up Vanessa’s murder, there’s another fellow Latino soldier that went missing and ends up dead, and there’s some sketchy underground work going on there!!
I think they need to have 3rd party independent investigators reviewing what is happening.
Rip Gregory Morales 🕊
Houston Texas needs to be shutdown , because it’s a lot of sketchy shit there. Does this sound logical?
What happened to Vanessa is a disgrace. It is a horrible tragedy that she was victimized and murdered. Multiple soldiers have gone missing from FH in addition to being victimized in multiple ways.
The last thing that needs to happen is closing FH.
If that occurred all the predators and those involved in serious crimes would be sent to posts all over the country.
What the POTUS is doing is correct. Post Commander was scheduled to transfer to Fort Bliss. The POTUS removed him from his position and blocked his transfer.
The roof needs to be torn off FH. Every soldier within the ranks of 40K stationed there that is involved in this crime and any criminal activity need to be removed and sent to Leavenworth.
Several are murdered every year at Fort Hood. And Dozens go missing.
I just wanna let u know that u r doing a great job by spreading the word on such cases and making people aware of such things💜💜💜luv ya
Tysm for the like sav💜✨
Yes, I am new here. It's wonderful to meet you
Yessss . We appreciate you Savannah
Vanessa story has been spreading through every social media outlet before her video. She’s just another white privileged white girl who is profiting off a brown woman murder. This video is not enough. Use your white privilege to make a change, that’s if you even really care.
@@raqueldlcz I get you but she's trying her best
Just so y’all know, Aaron isn’t a ‘special agent’, he’s a specialist, which is the rank after Private First Class. It’s a relatively low rank, only a couple years in service usually. I know that it doesn’t seem super important, but he’s an even lower rank than a sergeant, which means that he isn’t the sergeant that was sexually harassing her
Thank youuuu!!! IVE BEEN SAYING THIS! I feel like it’s been overlooked a lot . I feel like he was just a puppet.
@@mozelie9531 he was just a puppet. They were using him n the other girl as a cover up to save their own asses. That story they said is bullshit. We may never TRULY know HOW and WHY they killed her and WHO really did it
I agree. I just commented as well, that Vanessa didn't name who was harassing her. Only that the person was her superior.
I came here to say this as well lol.
yeah that’s what i was wondering the whole time because her mom said it was a sergeant and he’s not a sergeant
It was such a coward move for Aaron to end his life. Like what was he hiding? Why did he kill Vanessa? We need answers! Vanessas family needs answers!!!
I feel like he was a puppet. There may be some higher ups that actually committed this crime, but used aaron as a scape goat! A higher up was harassing her ...
He was sexually harassing her & was about to file a report on it.
Jams La but there has to be something else. How could’ve he known she was gonna report him?
Yes. Who called Vanessa into work? Who was aware AR was going to be alone in arms room? I’m so glad I heard Lupe recently say she wants Vanessa’s chain of command to directly answer her questions.
Evening next información i wanna know who was responsible for putting them in the room together after clearly someone (the lawyer) was aware of the harassment
I feel like there’s another person in the base that help Aaron with the murder of Vanessa.
jib jabs mcadoo nah that’s not really how it works. Highly doubt a general was involved lol.
Hmmmm that sounds pretty true...
I agree. I think Aaron did someone else’s dirty work. He was just the fall guy for someone higher up.
Yes,I too feel there's more to the murder of Vanessa that has yet to be discovered
right someone had to have cleaned up all that blood
Cecily knew EVERYTHING and was making all those "proud", "edgy", carefree posts...all while Vanessa's poor family was desperately looking for answers to what had happened to her. And she didn't give a shit about them. Makes me sick.
@Purplefire wish she could be given additional charges for “aiding and abetting” or anything as result of not coming forward like you said.
I was surprised that a black man did that- only white people do that
RIP to Vanessa. It's definitely a heartbreaking case.
I wonder if people who are murdered can actually Rest In Peace.
roter13 Thats Really Something To Think About Honestly
LOL it’s was funny how they found her body it was in pieces 😂
not to mention the fact that she comes from a Latin family, out of every career there was waiting for her arrival, she chose to serve a country that she was blessed to be born in, having so many advantages, only to be dishonored in the most outrageous way. My prayers go among her family. 💔 no family and I mean NO FAMILIA should EVER go through this, especially hers, considering her family came to this country to seek asylum, just to be led down by the new american generation she was starting to create. she put all her will to sacrifice herself by serving this country, the country that she was in favor devoted into. However, when it came to the base handling the situation, they did absolutely NOTHING, for justice. I’m truly disappointed by how the base handled the situation. If only she knew that her former alibis did nothing to get justice for her. Me and my family would also be mad disappointed that she didn’t get any support from the base when it came to evidence, whatsoever. May she Rest In Peace. QUE VIVA LA RAZA!! 🇲🇽❤️
I dont think her being of Latin decent has anything to do with anything. The man who killed her was black and had a girlfriend that was also of Latin decent. That beautiful girl was an American and there are evil people everywhere you go regardless of ethnic background. It is something people that have good hearts and morals have to deal with. Im not sure of the narrative but regardless they need to step up MP at all times and even though that is not the higher up who was sexually harassing her, they must practice professionalism and guidelines for such harassment.
Vanessa's mom has been saying more higher ups are involved, and that they used Aaron to do the murder, also what happened with Aaron?? Nobody has talked about him since he "killed himself" Vanessa's mom also said that some higher ups have been moved from foort hood, why??
Her mom tossing out all kinds of crap. The 1st day she said Vanessa never made a report.
The evidence points to higher ups... not sure Aaron actually committed the crime.. no evidence of this.. just that he dismembered and buried her... her supervisor was replaced on June 19th.
@@robertlove8593 many women dont report doesn't mean it didn't happen!
Same thing came to my mind. The people responsible didn't expect that this story would go viral! Therefore, something had to be done. Someone had to take the blame. God Knows best... it just doesn't feel right. May God give her family strength to keep going. Ameen
I actually know Cecily from my hometown in Michigan, before she moved to Texas. It's crazy to me that she even did this and that she's also trying to escape prison as well. My heart breaks for Vanessa's family 🥺
Thank you for making a update and informing people on the situation.
Their is actually a new soldier body been found around a lake this the 3rd body been found in a month from fort hood we need to shut that base down!!
As much as people would like, they won’t shut down fort hood. Sketchy stuff happens everywhere in the military. My husband was stationed there & he did tours in Iraq & Afghanistan. You should hear the things that happen overseas.
Krista Marquez can you talk about what kind of things you've heard of?
Source, please!
You don't shut a base down that is stupid you change things if they need to be changed. It is the biggest base in the world with lots of people that work on there of course things are going to happen sometimes. But if something needs to be changed than you change it not shut the building/area down lol
@@miac2382 that is way too reasonable!
rest in peace vanessa :( this was so preventable, fort hood needs to be shut down.
What happened to Vanessa is a disgrace and tragedy. Multiple soldiers have gone missing from FH in addition to being victimized.
Closing FH would ensure
predators and those involved in serious crimes would be sent to posts all over the country.
What the POTUS is doing is correct. Post Commander was scheduled to transfer to Fort Bliss. The POTUS removed him from his position and blocked his transfer.
The roof needs to be torn off FH. Every soldier within the ranks of 40K stationed there that is involved in this crime and any criminal activity need to be removed and sent to Leavenworth.
My thing is if Aaron did “shoot himself” where is the body? Why didn’t they show the body camera of him doing this? Where is the evidence that he truly did this to himself? Why haven’t they had an obituary or something? I don’t buy that he really is dead. All of this is a big cover up and I pray all this comes to light soon.
I agree he didn't shoot himself hes in a military prison somewhere hidden
That’s a good point
I just don't understand how people can do things like this and live with themselves.
I joined the Latin Kings when I was 9 years old in Chicago and I've done some unspeakable things throughout that time but this is truly unpardonable to me and if I could've stopped it I would've done this to him or worse.
This case is just so crazy smh sad how she wasn’t even protected and the army didn’t even care to shut everything down to look for Vanessa but if a gun goes missing the base is shut down 🤦🏻♀️ It should be the same way they know something reason why they didn’t care to look for her correctly!
There’s definitely an upper person involved. Yesterday I watched an Interview of Vanessa’s mom speaking after her memorial service she says something along the lines In Spanish “they moved him, we know who he is. They have lied to us and we won’t stop until every perpetrator is exposed” she didn’t elaborate much on the details but my guess is this person who was moved was transferred and that leads me to believe it could possibly be the person who called her in. (Most likely a superior)
Name the person that were move what his name they cover everything the so called good old boy stick to gether always. Ft Hood is a bad place to b have many problems.
Interesting 🤔
@ TrueCrimetalk
Annie Jones exactly! They’re definitely holding back important information. Vanessa’s mother made it very clear in the video I watched.
Shawnee Skywalker my thoughts too.
Her supervisor was moved on June 19th. No mention of where he went. very little info on him on the internet at all.
I have been waiting for this ever since I saw the mugshot from the killer. By the way, You and Eleanor Neale are the actual best True Crime youtubers. ❤️
Also Kendall Rea
Facts they are the best🥰🤩
Simrat Shergill OMG yesssssss
Kendall Rae and bailey sarian are also great youtubers!! 💕
They are the only true crime people I am subscribed to they are the best!!!❤️
She can't be charged with murder because Vanessa was already dead when she became involved.
How come she can’t she was already dead sure enough but she tried to burn her body I mean she probably would of took part in killing Vanessa if she was there when she died so yeah she should be charged with murder or at lease tapering with evidence.
Kymora Nash I’m sure she will be charged with Gross abuse of a corpse, among other things as well.
She can get charged for being an accomplice for getting rid of body and also foe not saying anything to authorities
@@Saii.a right but not actual murder
Wth :(
Damn she posts a lot of pictures of herself everyday + i saw Kendall Reas video and she said that the army base was keeping secrets from the police because they did not let police see the cameras of that day and said the people at the base saw the cameras and said nothing was wrong, that base has a lot of weird cases of people disappearing.
Cameras where?
Jessica Rodriguez the army base cameras
I don’t believe the selfies are the problem I believe it’s what she’s captioning under the selfie. Just saying I mean this Savannah chick posts nothing but selfies as well 🤷🏻♀️ Plus everyone perseves themselves a certain way in social media so yeah she might make herself “greater than though” but doesn’t everyone? What makes Cecily a horrible human being is the fact that she can do that to another human being. It’s just horrific. Vanessas family needs justice.
The rank is just “Specialist” not “special agent”. The two soldiers are in the army not the CIA
Well she did good how about you inform us with all your knowledge. I'll wait
Joe Sanchez I agree she did a great job and I never said she did a bad job. She clearly did her research and did a fine job telling the story. I was more saying this bc those two title are in two separate branches of government (Army/military & CIA). Was saying it more to inform and not to be a Dick
You should see the beautiful murals here in Houston made for her. Absolutely heartbreaking to see her family go through so much pain.
I’m in Houston rn. Where are they at?
also in the valley the murals are perfectly done I know some of the Guillén family and helped them come down to see the murals with large supporting friends in our communities
Nicole Anderson taqueria del sol is where one of them are
I think its trash that fort worth basically ignores when people go missing,get killed etc. They dont care
You mean Fort Hood
@fear God 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 nah I'm good. Il take my chances with hell😂
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Families need to advocate for loved ones like the Guillen's more often... then more attention will be placed on finding them.
one of my friends went through basic with her 🥺😔 praying for her and her family and thanks for updating her case 🤍
There’s for sure more than what’s being told . Being someone who debated on going to the military for the benefits or getting in debt with medical college & days later reading SO many stories of females being harassed , raped , etc .. it’s definitely not worth it . I just pray Vanessa’s family gets ALL the answers some day .
I truly believe she was murdered by the Sergeant who harassed her and had Aaron clean it up. I feel they are not being truthful about anything. Rest in peace Vanessa. You did not deserve this!!!
Omg that would make sense, maybe that’s also why Aaron killed himself so he couldn’t tell on the sergeant because he might’ve been threatened by him
She actually wasn’t supposed to work that day. It was her day off & she got called into work for the armory room.
I was waiting on this video!
Houston loves you Vanessa!!! RIP 🥺💖
I live in Houston also. My heart breaks for her! May she Rest In Peace!! 🥺💛
My boyfriend is in the Army and he said she should’ve never have been alone.The place where he is stationed they make everyone take a “buddy” to the bathroom, etc. They started this because of sexual assault, if she had someone with her this probably wouldn’t of happened, this is so sad.
He could have told her that’s what Vanessa was planning on doing. So that’s why she helped him. Idk. Either way she deserves to be in jail for the rest of her life.
The v on your necklace is flipping up and down when you talk lol
I saw that too! Now I want one
My husband is a specialist as well, and believe me, he does not get to ask higher ups to schedule someone in. That is completely up to the superior sergeants. This is why I believe someone either told him to do it or he was assisted in murdering her by a higher up.
I Agree!!!
Wow, I've seen several videos about this young woman's murder, but your video is by far the most detailed. What happened to her is nothing short of disgusting. And I feel so bad for her and her family. Rest in Peace, Beautiful. You did not ask for or deserve what happened to you. And I hope that girl gets nothing short of a life sentence.
Where the hell is the outrage and protest to get justice for this woman??!
This women's murder was unjustified that's what. If one of your loved ones was harrassed sexually and dissapeared, you would have been outrage also if you were keep in the dark without being told the truth.
But people had plenty of time to protest & riot for George Floyd’s murder? Or does Vanessa’s life not matter bec of who her killer was?
Krista Marquez who will you be protesting? Civilians? That won’t work
This case is so sad and sickening
Y’all this case really hurts my heart, I myself am a Latina Army Veteran and see myself in her. This should have never happen and I completely hold Fort Hood Accountable. Also this case is also why in the military they stress so much the importance of battle buddies travel in pairs everywhere you go on and off base. This by no means is me saying it was her battle buddies fault this is her chain of command failing her. Period. Accountability is even more stressed in the military. And her NCO’s failed her too. Battles take care of your battles please.
My heart breaks for Vanessa & her family 😔💔
You should definitely look into the LaVena Johnson case! She was in the army and was found dead in her tent in Iraq in 2005. The army ruled it a suicide but her family has been fighting for justice ever since.
It came out that she was never scheduled to work that day..They called her into work
Can we just SaY......Cecily is CEO of CATFISHING
Princess MeganElsa lol she looks like a meth addict in the picture on the news and such but social media... it’s not that bad lol
She looks like chad daybells chin twin!!
prolifik 1977 cryyyying 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Lol
he was a coward by taking the easy way out. rest in peace vanessa guillen 💗
Yes it was very much a coward move but he won’t have the easy way out I believe that god forgive me but that he will rot it hell
Literal tears rolling down my face as I'm watching this video. Thank you for doing such an amazing job at spreading awareness for Vanessa's case. #JusticeForVanessaGuillen
Thank you for bringing awareness to this case. You are doing an amazing job 💖
I was sexually assaulted in the army a year ago (still in the army) and nothing was done. The command wasn’t supportive either. We need justice for us all
What if she was alive when he put her in the box? That would explain the lack of a bloody crime scene in the arms room. He could have incapacitated her somehow and put her in the box to kill her at a more secure location. Sad he will never pay for this. I hope Cicely gets just punishment at least. Such a tragedy. RIP Vanessa 😢
I want to say to please not make fun of this case please respect everyone thank you and be safe
On an unrelated note I am amazed at how clean you’ve been able to keep that blanket/pillows. If it was me it would be covered in dorito dust. 😂
So fkn wierd. The second I read your comment, someone on a Netflix show I was watching was told to wipe away the Dorito dust in his beard. This shit is really crazy.
Thank you for posting this, Rest In Peace Vanessa 🙏🏼💜
I spent almost an hour trying to find your channel because I couldn’t remember your name. I thought I was subscribed but apparently I wasn’t. Anyways no one explains the cases as great as you do so I’m so glad I found your channel again.
This story hits different for me since it involves the army. My husband is in the army so just talking about the tough box knowing I have one sitting in my garage right now with all his gear in it... I just can't imagine how heartless by has to be to discard her the way they did.
Aaron was put on what’s called “restriction” in the military for pending legal adjudication. And people “escape” restriction all the time... nothing is preventing them from just walking out and they’re only “checked” on every two hours, aka knocking on their door to make sure they’re still in there.
I honestly believe that he was attracted to her. Vanessa didn't want him and he couldn't handle the rejection so instead he was sexually assaulting her. Then his so-called girlfriend was jealous of her because she knew that he likes her. Which is why she helped him with his murder
He text her telling her to come to the Arms room, they saw those texts when checking his phone.
it is very sad to see how people who risk their lives for their country get treated in such disgusting ways. Sending prayers to her family
Arms room are usually sound proof ! Of what I have heard ! This man is sick!! So sad to know he got away with it all !! I pray for peace for her family and everyone involved💗
Thank you for sharing this story it’s so close to my heart being that I live here in belton and could never imagine anything like this.
This breaks my heart R.I.P. Vanessa you will be missed very much😢 and my prayers go out to her family🙏🏼
This is so scary I literally live in belton and I remember going to restaurant just last month and seeing pictures of Vanessa
Yes!!! I requested this. Thank you Savannah. Much love from me.
I feel you! This case really frustrates me because I was expecting a good outcome. And it’s so unfair how Vanessa won’t get to tell her story but Cecily gets to tell one. Idk if that makes sense but I’m just so upset and sad. Vanessa deserves justice!! Thank you for covering this case
SPC = Specialist, not special agent. “Special Agent” isn’t even a rank in the army.
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Her story literally breaks my heart every time I hear it and the sad thing is that she wanted to be in the army to protect the very same country that failed to protect her since she was a little girl RIP Vanessa Guillen
R.I.P Vanessa G 🙏🏽 Good job on this video Savanna, you aced this!! 👍🏽
I believe Aaron and the others involved planned this wanting to take advantage of Vanessa and then getting rid of her, thinking they were going to get away with it, like you say it was pre meditated, it was planned. RIP Vanessa Guillen
Bet I’m the only one who noticed Savannah looks sorta like Catherine Paiz especially both share the same weird line in their chins😹🍑
I love her chin, it’s super cute!
Struggled to watch the entire thing, literally has me shaking !! My heart hurts for her- but also for her loved ones because that’s a type of closer no one can bring them to not be able to reach her! I know no mothers love will repair after this type of loss! May she rest when this is said and done! The karma that await that girl in prison is going to be great!! I hope you keep us updated as the case goes on!! Just wow!!
I'm a bell county resident and this happened 6 min away from my place. I visited the place where they found her. Sad. God bless her.
Ps. They found another soldier body while looking for venessa.
Savannah I love your voice! When I worked night shifts I couldn’t sleep during the day and i found your podcasts and duuuude listening to your stories and your calm voice literallllllly soothed me lol !!! Thank you for your videos you are awesome!!!!
Thank you for making videos 💜
God Bless you and thank you for assuring these young ladies that they have a voice that should be utilized in any ways for their safety!
She might believe the “real motive” was about exposing their relationship because that’s what he told her to get her to help him get rid of the body. He made it seem like he was protecting their relationship. Disgusting and so heartbreaking!!
Thank you for making an update! I love you!
I was thinking you update ASAP, but late is better then never. SAV great videos thanks for your work I know it’s exhausting, finding the time, gathering knowledge, recording, and then edit 🥵 it’s a lot! Keep ‘me coming ✌🏽☮️
I love your channel. Ur amazing. Mental health is very important good for u to using ur platform, amazing. I just want to say I sympathize with this story n the story of the two that were found in suitcases by tik tok app in Seattle. My bf n I met at 12 in 92 n last September she was murdered n discarded in 50 gal drum, first a tote then the drum n kept locked in her murders family garage. My bf it broke my heart. I feel better the more I talk about it, cus I NVR felt pain like that except when my mother passed away. Ik my mother has her n their together. I thank God our daughters are friends n it warms my heart the relationship they have n I remember my bf for her she was, not how she died or disposed of. The monster confessed n is in jail. Plead not guilty? Waiting for his trial. God bless u for u putting out stories like this.
this is such a tragic case 😥 thanks for updating us ! love u savannah 🥰
20 year?!? She needs more year she doesn’t deserve to be free! She should get more for lying, and plus year that Aaron was suppose to get. The family needs justice!
*specialist not special agent
Just for future reference 😊
I love your videos! This case really got to me. I feel such a strong connection towards Vanessa. When I heard that they found her body and announced how she was killed, I literally teared up. Thank you for spreading awareness about her case! 🥰
Savanah, you are honestly glowing. You are looking so amazing and happy... despite the horrible case.
This is so sad and painful that we are living in a world where people kill each other up until today. There is just no excuse to kill someone. I hope there will be the time when this can end forever. Thank you for the video
The disturbing fact is that you’re not even safe in a military base!!! During lockdown!!! This just shows that people in the world are cruel and absolutely sick it makes me sick to my stomach. This base should be shut down and how the hell can there not be any cameras or any form of security cameras at a military base
it’s so crazy hearing all these towns i’m in almost everyday. it’s also so scary that i’ve driven past where her body was found numerous times.
What a wicked people, rest in peace Vanessa,.. Thanks for the update 💓.
I'm from North Carolina and never heard of this case until 3 weeks ago
Love the passion u put into these cases, thank u🙏
I’m from Tyler tx and we did a March for her back on the 9th of July and it was very touching seeing the whole community come together her family is not alone Vanessa is not alone the whole world is with her is very sad how her life was taking away just like that no one should ever go through that #ripvanessa
I’m late but IVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO DO THIS!!
THIS is what we should be speaking about, Thank you Savannah!
Thanks for being awareness to her case.
Thank you for spreading the word❤️.
Im in the national guard and this last drill weekend we had a meeting and talked about this case and what happend. I was shocked that this happend actually on a base. So sad,rest in peace.
That’s so sad imagine how scared she was 😔💔
You doing such a great thing with these videos ❤️ keep doing what your doing
This is absolutely devastating
Just a few things for you to understand the military better...and to how worse this all is.
1. There are no "special agents" in the Armory. Special Agents are federal. This guy was a soldier (a Specialist...a very junior rank in the Army)
2. Motorpool...is where we keep ALL vehicles (not some)...including Strykers if it is a Stryker Unit. This is where Maintenance, storage, and prep is done on all and any vehicles. They are huge....picture 100 Humvees and 25 Strykers.
3. your missing...the Armory...is the most secure place in any building. There is usually a lot of traffic that passes in front of the armory cage (usually a cage or walk in safe). These armorys are not usually in remote places...as in everyone in the Unit will walk past the entrance numerous times a day. Highly visible area. It is also not a good practice to have 1 soldier in the Arms room at a time. And Civilians are forbidden to enter...so someone seeing a gf in there....huge problem
4. Cheating on a spouse...you need proof as in video tape of the sexual act. Also cheating happens often with junior enlisted and junior officers. Cheating really doesn't negatively impacts your career...unless high ranking or in a high position. An E4 would get probably zero reprimand.
5. Soldiers aren't "scheduled" to work...it in not like being a server. Usually placement of soldiers are done by the Commander giving his objective for the day. ..then the 1st Sergeant's getting it done. It is unlikely that an E4 made the decision of putting her there. A lot goes into it....commanders intent, Battalion Commander's needs, company responsibilities, soldiers on takings. Very very unlikely that an E4 would have authority to place a soldier somewhere.
6. The armor room doesn't have a door...it has a vault. This vault is usually left open with a chained door so the room is visible. Highly unlikely someone didn't hear or see something.
7. You should not really speak on what the military does and does not do with sexual harassment. We, with any organization, can do better, but you didn't even touch on anything the military does to prevent sexual harassment. In my 15 years....2 cases....one was male vs male. The other was a low ranking soldier having an affair with a high ranking officer. Not saying it is a problem, but you are speaking on something you know zero about. You didn't even mention SHARP.
You should research more about the military.