I wish the turn signal got more love. The blinking of the turn signal is so beautiful, it’s a shame that the owner will never see it. It’s a treat for everyone else.
Applies to a lot of their cars. Same with “truckishness” on base tires which can be addressed with car tires of similar specs. Geolandars are awful as driving tires.
I hate the trend of giving SUVs and trucks rubber band tires. When I was a kid SUVs got fat meaty tires for comfort and off-roading. Now they get sedan tires.
doesn't address the suspension issues. it's a mess going over anything but perfect pavement ...especially off ramps and on ramps in the NE where you get snow and the roads aren't smooth all the time.
I’d definitely buy this over the others, because it has a regular transmission, turbo offering, and it doesn’t look pedestrian. I’d rather sacrifice fuel mileage for something worth walking up to, looking at, and getting inside to drive.
@@gilbomanis it the same unit as in a '21 CX30 Turbo? My buddy's doesn't feel particularly slow. You haven't seen a slow autotragic until you ride in a last-gen ('21) Tacoma. That thing is pathetic--lurches the truck, hunts gears, and has a preposterously tall and useless 6th.
Our dealership has had two 2023 model years and one 2022 model year cx-30s and they have just about the same infotainment system. If you aren't planning on using Carplay or Android Auto this infotainment system is bad enough to pass on the car. It's so hard/confusing to use while on the road.
It makes me happy to hear that you guys like this car, too. After two years and 42,000 miles on my ‘23 Turbo Premium Plus, I’m still in love with it. I like the heavier steering of my ‘23, and I’m curious how the new calibration of the updated models feels. My favorite part about it is that sometimes I forget that I’m driving a crossover; it’s sporty, and giving it paddle shifters with a sport mode and a fun chassis sets it apart from other boring transportation appliances. I just put new spark plugs in her during my 40,000-mile oil change last month (her eighth oil change) and she runs just as smooth as she did on day one! If anyone else reading this has the Turbo, make sure to follow the startup and shutdown procedure in the handbook: upon a cold start, let the rpms settle down before putting it in-gear (takes about 20 seconds), and before shutting the engine off after a long drive, let the engine run for 30 seconds before shut down (this is a good time to gather your things like your wallet, put your sunglasses away, have a sip of water, get situated, etc.).
@@Savethemanuals94 Doubt any modern car built in last 10 years would see 120k miles in this day and age. Things have changed, and the future is now, old man.
I rent a lot of vehicles while traveling for work. Almost all of them have issues that i don't like. This was one of the very few cars i got in, and I really liked it. Drove it for a week, and really enjoyed it for what it was.
I wouldn't admit this in public. That Alabama plant is producing some of the most problematic cars on the road. These CX50s are plagued with issues. Meanwhile, the CX5, which is built in Japan, is solid and gets excellent quality ratings.
We bought a CX-50 last week, although ours was the “preferred” trim level (second lowest). I feel that the lower trims is where the CX-50 really stands out from the competition. AWD was a requirement for us as it’s the easiest way to comply with Colorado’s traction law, but a similarly priced CR-V gives you steel wheels, bare minimum safety features, plus a CVT. The RAV felt outdated and doesn’t have wireless CarPlay, no keyless entry, and most importantly for us, no automatic climate control. We had company cars for years, and the CX-50 was the perfect escape from the mundane competition.
Mazda is offering 2500 cash on the Preferred , and many dealers are over stocked, are are willing to negotiate. I think this trim level at 5k under MSRP is a steal.
Buy a rav4 and you want AWD, they will add an extra $2k for it. You get AWD on the mazda, but remember it's front wheel drive first, AWD kicks in when it detects wheel slipping, with no button to push.
By default u can only use the touch screen while stop but u can change it on the settings to always have touch active. Plus the dial is honestly extremely easy to use
I initially dismissed the dial until I had a rental CX50 in Colorado for snowboarding last season The dial makes sense. You can touch while using CarPlay or Android Auto if you want but can use the dial alternatively for navigation around the interfaces. it may seem odd, but the latter is what I ended up using most often. :) Part of it is due to the size of the display the touch points would be smaller anyway. But after a little time, I found it very easy to spin the dial quickly and click. (for reference I normally drive a JLR vehicle with a big touch display).
Something I've never seen mentioned for taller people (6'2) that like to sit up higher: At a high seating position, the hood catches the reflection of cars in front of you and because the metal seems a little cheaper, it vibrates the reflection in your peripherals. It's annoying to the point that I had to lower the seat to eliminate the hood glare and of course I never noticed this on the test drive. Also the plastic casing on the gauge cluster somehow is pointed at an angle to where it reflects the sky on the top portion of the clear plastic, again all remedied by adjusting my seating position but it felt like both weird problems to be dealing with to begin with. Outside of that, I love the car. This is my first brand new car and it's the perfect amount of tech. The dial set up for infotainment works so good with Apple Car Play and I didn't think I'd appreciate wireless apple car play as much as I do, which the lower CX5 trim models didn't have. Every time I get in the car and start driving, it feels like I'm in a premium vehicle. The layout of everything just looks and feels right.
Mazda is just the best man, like yes, the torsion beam is a thing, and yes, Mazda historically don't have great space (or at least the have less space than their rivals), bit this has soul, this has an identity, it looks amazing and Mazda focuses on driving dynamics. And for that, though I wish Mazda had better packaging to have more space, Mazda is my favorite daily car brand.
Bought my CX50 in December of 2022, and I just love it more and more! I have the non-turbo CX50 in the same beautiful color combo of the Soul Red Crystal! Very happy with my purchase!
@@LazyTesla it depends on the type of road. Sometimes the road noise is higher than others. I don't know why Mazda didn't add the acoustic glass on the CX50 like with the CX5. I'm used to the power on it now after a year-and-a-half. My previous car had a v6, 275 horsepower. So there was a small adjustmnt, but It's pretty adequate. Yes, you have to pay extra for the Soul Red Crystal
Family member went into Mazda dealer looking at CX-90. Came out with the CX-50 non turbo premium plus. Loves it. CX-90 felt jittery and bumps crashed through the entire cabin. CX-50 felt much more nimble, and much more solid. Can live without the turbo. Not that much difference. Not worth the price upgrade. Previously had a CX-5 coming off lease. Lots of features. So far so good.
Wow. Really? I have the Turbo CX-5 and the Turbo makes a world of difference. Whenever I get a NA for a service loaner I cannot wait to get mine back. I’ve driven mostly 6cyl though so this was my first 4cyl and I cannot imagine it without the Turbo. But if you don’t notice the difference more power to ya, you’ll save a buck or two for sure.
Have to respectively disagree. The delta on a three year lease between turbo and non turbo was almost $120 per month. $4500 plus over three years. This car will be almost exclusively suburban driven. Does anyone really pay extra for premium fuel with the turbo when it runs fine on regular? I’ve owned the non turbo CX-5. It was fast enough. Sometimes it’s more fun to drive a slower car fast, than a faster car slow.
@@nathanielross8232 Sure. Many of these options are personal preference and or subjective. Personally I enjoy the extra boost of torque for city driving. The cost difference seems about right. It’s the same amount more whether you lease or buy it. I do run premium because it burns cleaner and is better for the engine and Turbo long term. I also enjoy the increased hp and torque at upper rpm when you really get on it. I just wanted to acknowledge that IMHO there is a significant difference in performance between the two.
@@nathanielross8232owners manual for the Turbo cx-50 says can run either 87 or 93.... difference in HP.... 227 when on 87, 256 on 93. Torque, only +/-10.
I totally agree with you. Either paint the fender flares, or make them narrower. And that is true for several other SUV’s as well. Seems like the stylists think wide, matte black wheel surrounds impart a sense of ruggedness, but to me it screams “cheap & ugly”.
Agreed. The plastic cladding is far too large for my liking - ruins the lines of the vehicle. Painting it would help. But it's not as hideous as the Subaru Outback Wilderness.
The plastic flares are awesome. They’re the most like spots to get damaged so when they inevitably do, you can either just leave the scratches be because they won’t be visible or buy a replacement fended for cheap and replace it yourself. If it were painted and then damaged, repair costs would easily double or triple.
I wish Mazda would make body coloured cladding and bumpers available from the first year of production. I bought a 2017 CX5 brand new and wish I could have had the body color bumpers and cladding as well as the turbo available that year. Having said that, the shape of the CX50 is very Audi Off-road esk. I love wagons so if it becomes available with the body colour cladding, or even contrasting high gloss cladding in a grey colour, I’d consider it.
Couple people have these in my apartment building and I always catch myself looking twice when I drive past in the garage. For an SUV, it's pretty attractive design wise, especially the more "rugged" trims.
Just picked up a 2021 CX-5 as a daily. Have to confirm Mark's comment about feeling nauseous in the back. Actually, I get nauseous taking longer drives as the driver. Just something about how its suspension is setup. It wallows in corners and with bumps in a way that seems to mimic waves on a boat. Keeping it because I love everything else about it, and I'm sure I'll get used to it like a person get's used to being in a boat or using VR. Also seems to be a problem not experienced by most, so most passengers should be alright. And before anyone comments that "maybe you're not used to more sporty tuned vehicles," I've owned a lowered MK7 GTI, stock OG M2, and currently own a slightly lowered 991.1 Carrera. Definitely used to sporty cars.
Anyone who equates the CX-5's ride with a sporty car is a bit daft IMO. Maybe the dampers on your CX-5 are on their way out though? I bought a '24 CX-5 last month and the ride/damping is pretty good, but all SUVs wallow and move around a lot due to their high center of gravity and high weight.
@@bradcomis1066 The only reason I added that second part was because when people post this complaint, the common response is "maybe you're just not used to sportier suspension," which is definitely not true in my case. This car is totally fine. It's a 2021 with less than 17k miles. It's basically brand new. No way the suspension is bad. Just think this one wallows in an uncanny valley way. Not so soft as to avoid the problem, but not so stiff as to avoid the problem. I'm sure I'll get used to it before long.
@@Love2Cruise A natural conclusion, and my guess, as well. But I do drive rental cars pretty often, and drive my parents' SUV, truck and minivan when I visit them. I thought that'd give me enough "exposure" to be able to handle it. Also, for other people who've expressed the same issue, I imagine they aren't all driving sports cars regularly. Likely this is just another reliable NPC car for them. You'd think they'd be used to it too. I dunno! Lol. Don't care toooo much, as long as I get used to it before long.
My old 2019 Rav4 was waay more wallowy. I owned a 2013 BRZ on coilovers and I'd put the CX-5 on the 19"s at least closer to that car than the Rav4 on the handling front. Maybe the 2024s like I have has updated damping compared to the 21's??
I’ve had a 23 Meridian Edition for a little over a year now and love it. It was before they made the suspension/steering changes but they honestly never bothered me. Use it for hauling PE Equipment to my schools, take my family camping with our teardrop, and everything in between. Words cannot describe how much I enjoy it.
Im surprised you guys are saying the reliability is not looking good for the 2.5T skyactive engine. From my numerous hours of research, its often regarded as a reliable engine and Mazdas in general are seem as a really reliable brand between Consumer Reports, JD power, Protegez-vous (a renown canadian consumer protection group), etc. Their reliability is the reason I pulled the trigger on my 2024 cx5 signature.
True, they have been using the engine for the cx9 for years, now it's in the 3, cx30, cx5, cx50. It would be bad for mazda if that engine was not reliable.
To Mazda's credit they are the only company that makes cars / SUV's that are enjoyable for the driver. They provide excellent feedback, and can be fun to drive. The competition, by comparison, makes "appliances". Honda, Toyota makes very good vehicles, that are very reliable, but appliances by comparison.
I really appreciate the overall fit, finish and attention to details. Bumper covers, door panels, interior and exterior trim pieces feels better engineered than Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Kia and Subarus. I'm no Sandy Munro, but being in the collision repair industry, certain details are nice to see.
I have yet to drive the ‘24 to compare but I love my ‘23 even with the NA engine. The handling lets you get away with so much more than you should be able to in something of this category. It’s the perfect option for “slow car fast” kind of driving in a practical package
I don't have the CX-50, but I own the 2019 Mazda6 with the N/A 2.5 and all independent suspension front and rear. About to hit 60K with no issues, and it's fun to drive. Too bad they quit making that car.
@@joesailor61it's supposedly making a comeback with a new design, RWD, and a inline6 with 8 speed transmission like the cx-90... but it's still in the rumor mill...for now. It's also to be priced above $60k... we shall only see what comes when announced.
Thanks for the review fellas! Looking forward to hearing your long term updates. Marks review of the 2016 CX-5 is what made me purchase that vehicle, and I've been super happy with that decision.
I remember when my driveshaft and rear diff looked that clean and well-put-together. But with years of stress followed by lack of use, my wife feels sick looking at the decrepit and atrophy'd state of it.
I recently got a CX-5 (I wanted a 50, but went with the 5 due to it's shorter dimensions, and independent rear - I traded in my 2015 GTI for it.) My wife got a CX-50 a couple of months later. Honestly, I can't understand how anyone shopping in this category price and sizewise doesn't choose a Mazda, unless you REALLY need the utility a CRV or RAV4 might offer. The Mazda's are so much nicer than the competition.
Remember, toyota is known for reliability... Honda likes to be competitive but use a CVT transmission.... while Mazda is the in-between. You don't get the roominess of the rav4 or CR-v, but you get a standard tried and true 6 speed transmission, that, unlike toyotas 8-speed is known to fail. Now if mazda gave 4 years maintenance, who could resist??
I am leasing a 2023 CX-50 Preferred Plus (trim dropped for 2024) non-turbo. This is my fourth Mazda. Eight years ago (it's been that long) I started with a 2016 Mazda3 hatchback Touring 2.0, followed with a 2018 CX-5 Touring AWD, and then a 2020 CX-5 Touring FWD. Compared with the CX-5's I prefer the wider and longer interior of the CX-50. I also find that the CX-50 has less body roll than the CX-5 (either AWD or FWD). I do with that Mazda used the better side windows of the CX-5 on the CX-50 as more noise gets through the glass (I can hear water run along the windows when it rains or using the windshield washers). I have no issues with the ride or steering of the CX-50.
Just bought the CX50 premium. Enjoy the solid ride and don’t feel like I am riding atop of a CUV. Found two software bugs. 1. you can add same station to favorites multiple times. Wish you could hold button to unfavorite 2. Screen Display At Night. Auto dimming does not work. Automatic and Day are same brightness. Switch to night goes dim. The dashboard buttons seem to override the screen settings. regardless auto dimming does not work. Aside from that enjoy how Mazda focuses on driving dynamics not flashy tech. Agree wish seats were a little longer.
I have a '23. Steering? It isn't heavy. I grew up driving cars with NO power steering and even as a 58yo male. I have not had an issue at all with mine.
A week ago, I test drove an NA '24 CX-5, which I liked a lot, and then an NA '24 CX-50. I immediately disliked the CX-50 to the point where I cut the test drive short. I went back to the CX-5 and traded in my '24 Seltos turbo. I liked the "tried and true" of a vehicle that has been in production for years.
@@gailenrique2804 It was a lease and the Mazda dealer made an arrangement with a Kia dealer to take the vehicle. The Kia dealer could "CPO" it and sell it for more money than the Mazda dealer. I work at a Kia dealer, which made it awkward. I bought the Preferred because for not much more money than the trim lower that that I got some features that were of value to me. Actually, my wife was there for a CX-90, I saw the smaller options and we got 2 vehicles.
I love my 50 Turbo. The steering and brake pedal feel puts a lot of sporty and dedicated sports cars to shame. The twist beam isn’t the fanciest, but it’s simple and doesn’t need to be aligned. And due to it also acting as the biggest rear anti-sway bar, it rotates better than something with independent suspension through corners. I like that it can tow 3500 lbs as well. Speaking of towing, it’s so stable with tow mode activated. I think it’s one of the better CUVs out there, especially for people coming from sports cars or people who want to add a CUV next to their sports cars.
I tested the '23 cx50 Turbo and it was a nice everywhere except power and mileage. Slower than my 14 year old V6 Venza with about the same fuel mileage (22 vs 24 mpg).
3:37 Looks like they changed the design of the coolant filler/cap housing, the black plastic piece at the bottom right of the engine cover with the radiator hose coming out of it. That blasted thing gave way at the seams on my 2018 turbo 6 and luckily it was just a few days before I went to change my spark plugs at 40k miles. I noticed the smell but nothing looked off until I took the cover off I found the green coolant sprayed all over the place. Always check for leaks under all the plastic bits any time you have your hood open for oil changes, etc.
These overviews are so intelligent and immensely helpful. I'm curious why when talking about competition and choices in this market, a car like the Subaru Forester isn't mentioned in the same breath as the CR-V or the Tiguan or the Rav4. Not a complaint, just curious.
Had a Rav 4 recently for a couple of weeks due to an accident , it was the most practical car I've ever driven. Good gas mileage, easy to drive, and great storage. Might be my next vehicle.
My parents were shopping the Honda CR-V as a replacement for their daily Ford Fusion runabout. I suggested they check out the CX-50, especially since Mazda tweaked the ride this year. They actually took my advice to check out Mazda, which originally wasn't really on their radar. Then they bought a CX-5. An aged car at the end of its lifecycle. They drove both, but just liked the ride and "feel" of the CX-5 more. We live in the rust belt too (MI) so I'm thinking the beam axle might have played a part in the CX-50 taking second place to the CX-5. I checked out their new ride recently and for an older vehicle/platform, it is still extremely impressive, especially with the turbo engine.
We had a RAV4 rental for a week in Yellowstone. I have to say that it was easy to drive and not as floaty/lack-of-feel as I was expecting. I normally drive a Mazda3. The main thing I didn’t like about the RAV4 was the CVT. For that reason, our next car will probably be another Mazda or whatever is out there with a normal transmission.
The issue with the 2.5 turbo was a simple problem of faulty valve seals d/t supply chain shortages that mazda has been replacing under warranty. Mine was replaced at 50,000 ml, and my engine hasn't had any issues since. My CX-30 has been bulletproof otherwise.
10:30 agreed, I want a hybrid version of the CX-30 and CX-50. I really wouldn't consider anything that doesn't have at least a hybrid at this point, HEV, PHEV, or EV only.
I own my cars until they are worn-out, so a hybrid is not something I want. The price of battery replacement often results in perfectly good cars being scrapped. I don't see how this is good for the owner or the environment.
@@ccrider8483 It’s not an EV, and hybrids have advanced far past early years. Plus hybrid battery replacements aren’t as extreme. Think of all the 300-500k Prius, Camry & RAV4 hybrids being beat to death as taxi’s, etc in big cities… Point to consider. But honestly any modern car is so complex, even non hybrid, long term is a concern for any brand & any car, anymore, even just with the features & other sensors & controls.
@@ccrider8483 you say that like you have to change the batteries every two years. Hybrids can easily go ten years or more without much to worry about. 150-200k miles is where lithium pack replacements seem to start to become necessary. And looking it up, replacing the battery in my Ioniq Hybrid is about $5k, which isn’t bad.
People buy what they’re familiar with. The CX-5 has the better suspension setup, while the CX-50 has the better turbo engine from a reliability standpoint (a simple twin-scroll turbocharger in the CX-50, versus Mazda’s proprietary and somewhat complex “dynamic pressure” turbocharger in the CX-5 and other models). The models that use the dynamic pressure turbo are prone to head gasket issues, and this is just due to the design of their dynamic pressure system.
@@clutch7366 they're really using two different turbocharger systems in the CX-5 2.5t vs the CX-50 2.5t? That's interesting. And strange. Either way I'd just buy the n/a 2.5L though.
Just got went to the CX50 preferred, downsizing from the CX9 Turbo. Its been good on gas, and still runs lovely. And i like the look of it. You feel the difference coming down form the Turbo obviously but Sport mode is surprisingly good. Mazda has been good to me 4 years in so far. Hoping for a hybrid in the future.
As much as i love mazda, their handling of the crack prone 2.5 turbo engines ( search mazda 2.5 turbo TSB) and people getting screwed when their whole engines had to be replaced, alot of times post warranty time but prior of hitting anything close to 100k+ miles , makes ne hesitant of longterm reliability of that engine, even with the revised parts.
I drove 2023 mazda cx50 and i did not feel good as the staring was heavy and the drive was not of a mazda, but in 2024 they fixed the flaws and now the drive is as god as cx5 and the driving and handling is great. iam so happy that mazda fixed cx 50 now and the car is as great as cx 5. Well did mazda u r great zoom zoom
My wife chose a top of the line turbo just before the 2024s came out. I like the old steering and braking, and love the power, but I don’t like the ride quality. Can owners of the 2023 switch the shocks to the ones on the 2024 or are they not compatible? Would it make a noticeable difference? Second, I don’t like the 20 inch wheels, but we had to get them to get a heated steering wheel, which the wife insisted on. I would like to switch to the factory 18 inch wheels with a nice all weather Michelin tire with a severe snow rating, but Mazda says I shouldn’t do it. Why not? Gas mileage sucks; lucky if I get 25 mpg on the highway and when I towed just 1000 lbs, I was getting 14 mpg. I don’t like the entertainment system; too hard to change radio bands and stations. I don’t like that the touch capacity of the screen is limited to using Apple CarPlay. Seats are hard, but I got used to them and an extra pad helps. Unlike my leased F-150s, I own this so I intend to change the oil every 5K to avoid issues down the line. Overall, I don’t think I’d buy it again, but it’s the wife’s car, so it’s her choice.
You could have chosen the Turbo premium which is one below the plus, it also has the heated steering wheel. You can do android auto... it works with it. You just have to pair your android phone to the radio. Works like apple carplay.
You got a CVT in that Forrester. In this cx-50 is a 6 speed transmission. If you go lite off-roading, go with a Turbo Meridian. Don't want to break the bank, or have a need for the turbo, but still have a balance of price and features, get the preferred.
Just got a carbon turbo cx30 last month :D All mazda needs is some hybrid options, and they''ll really steal some marketshare. Their current lineup is slightly antiquated for tech and drivetrain... but on the otherhand more bulletproof affordable and stylish than its competitors.
I’d like to know what reliability issues Jack is talking about. The 2.5T is a very complex engine that you have to take care of but I’ve owned two of these powertrains neither with any problems.
I agree with you, I have a 21' GTR (Grand Touring Reserve).. and it's old and bullet proof, most of the bugs are out that's why I bought it. So far, so good🤞
Deciding right now between a Mazda cx90, lexus rx 350, or gx 460. The mazda 0.9 apr for 60 months lets me get a bit more car. But as a breeder, I'm really drawn to lexus reliability
Thanks, for your video and the updated review. I'm also glad that you basically like it and the improvements. But overall, I still prefer the CX-5 Signature, like the one I drive, over the CX-50. I still think it's a little better and better built car with the multi-link suspension and features like the 40/20/40 rear seats and a better value, since it's priced a little less. I'll be looking forward to your review of the hybrid version when it comes out later this year. Thanks, again.
I had a 21 CX30..........Ride was so harsh I had to let it go......And back to Subaru........I really wanted a CX50, but read numerous reports that that ride was even more harsh than the CX30........I am 81...have been thru enough jarring rides and demand a smother ride........And I live on a pothole filled road...............In My Eyes the CX50 in soul ride is the most beautiful car on the road..........Please, Mazda, Give Us old timers a softer ride........And go back to 65 series rubber.........We drove on these taller sidewalls for 50 Years and never suffered any "HANDLING" problems..............All cars need not be designed for raceing....................Paul
CX-50 is built in USA alongside Toyota products. I bought a CX-5 three mos ago and yesterday I bought another CX-5 after a prolonged mental debate between them.
My FICO Auto Score 8 is 740 vs Auto Score 2 is 716 (overall FICO Score 8 is 770. What is chance of getting the best rate or the current Mazda 0% interest rate ? Should I wait for the Auto score 2 to increase to min 740? Appreciate if anyone can give me (first car buyer) few opinions
I drive one of these all the time when I'm dreaming at night. The steering is precise and the handling is surprisingly agile and there's a lot of room in the back for my 7 Japanese girl friends. Plus is looks rugged and tough, unlike my actual car which is the city bus I take to work at my local Amazon warehouse. I smell like onions.
i've got the '24 Meridian edition polymetal Gray and I love it, truly feels fun to drive. Makes our '24 Forester sport feel completely numb compared to it. I love the styling as well whoever gave it those fender flares did a great job with the shape. My wife chided me for paying extra for "hood decals" but they are cool...eighteen inch wheels also make a difference in sucking up the bad road conditions up here in Ontario.
18”s I feel like are they way to go for this car. It is too bad that the meridian isn’t a turbo premium plus in the States, as it is in Canada. Meridian here is equipped like a base turbo. I have been looking at Cx50’s here but I wish I could buy a Canadian market one for this reason.
Hasn't Mazda announced that they are putting a Toyota 2.5 liter hybrid powertrain in the CX-50? Wouldn't that make this the "perfect" vehicle (i.e., getting the 40 mpg instead of 320 ft-lb of torque)?
I think the proof is in the pudding here. Esp macro sense with Mazda and Savage geese. You don't long term a car you know you'll hate. So yes. Mazdas..folks buy more. And simplicity is good. It's reliable and consistant and earnest.
I upgraded from a 18 cx5 touring and now have a 24 cx50 2f.5 premium. Concern about long term turbo. The Cx50 is a better vehicle to me. I don’t see a decrease in quality I personally perfer the dash layout and wider cargo. It feels more planted. In comparison my Cx5 felt hallow. I don’t notice the difference between the torsion and the independent but I do know turn is in more lively in the CX50.
Car reviewers are awesome. So much opinion. You guys are great. You should try working in the car industry. We'd love to see that. Keep the deep voice, you'll go places.
I love mine. Most fun suv I’ve ever driven and looks amazing. It’s one of the few vehicles I’ve found exciting in years. I’ve owned the competition as well and it’s no contest.
When you say late built 2023 variants, do you mean model year or calendar year? I’m looking for a used CC-50 and hoping to snag the best bang for the buck. Thank you for the great content.
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“This is traditional Mazda, you have a rotary…..dial” almost got me with that one 😂
I had the same thought in that moment.
That explains their insistence on the damn thing lol
i enjoy it . easier to maneuver while driving once you get used to it and learning curve is simple.
@@carloscampos5469it was a play on rotary engine.
This is why I come back to SG
I wish the turn signal got more love. The blinking of the turn signal is so beautiful, it’s a shame that the owner will never see it. It’s a treat for everyone else.
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The turn signal indicator in the gauge cluster also has the fading effect!
Except it sounds like a popping speaker
@@ericchang5217 I love the sound
Swapped out the 20” wheels for 18s & 245/60 tires solved the harshness issue most complain about.
They should market 18 and even 17s as "comfort" wheels.
Applies to a lot of their cars. Same with “truckishness” on base tires which can be addressed with car tires of similar specs.
Geolandars are awful as driving tires.
I hate the trend of giving SUVs and trucks rubber band tires. When I was a kid SUVs got fat meaty tires for comfort and off-roading. Now they get sedan tires.
doesn't address the suspension issues. it's a mess going over anything but perfect pavement ...especially off ramps and on ramps in the NE where you get snow and the roads aren't smooth all the time.
PSA: I have the base model with 17 inch wheels - I just put on bigger tires (265/45/R17) and the ride is wayyy better
I’d definitely buy this over the others, because it has a regular transmission, turbo offering, and it doesn’t look pedestrian. I’d rather sacrifice fuel mileage for something worth walking up to, looking at, and getting inside to drive.
the 6 speed auto is awful. we have a 2023 and it jerks like hell and slow at same time
@@gilbomanis it the same unit as in a '21 CX30 Turbo? My buddy's doesn't feel particularly slow. You haven't seen a slow autotragic until you ride in a last-gen ('21) Tacoma. That thing is pathetic--lurches the truck, hunts gears, and has a preposterously tall and useless 6th.
Our dealership has had two 2023 model years and one 2022 model year cx-30s and they have just about the same infotainment system. If you aren't planning on using Carplay or Android Auto this infotainment system is bad enough to pass on the car. It's so hard/confusing to use while on the road.
@@gilbomanthere could be a TSB update... ask your service advisor.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..........Yes....A beautiful car..........Mazda gets many things right.........Just soften the ride, Mazda
It makes me happy to hear that you guys like this car, too. After two years and 42,000 miles on my ‘23 Turbo Premium Plus, I’m still in love with it. I like the heavier steering of my ‘23, and I’m curious how the new calibration of the updated models feels. My favorite part about it is that sometimes I forget that I’m driving a crossover; it’s sporty, and giving it paddle shifters with a sport mode and a fun chassis sets it apart from other boring transportation appliances. I just put new spark plugs in her during my 40,000-mile oil change last month (her eighth oil change) and she runs just as smooth as she did on day one! If anyone else reading this has the Turbo, make sure to follow the startup and shutdown procedure in the handbook: upon a cold start, let the rpms settle down before putting it in-gear (takes about 20 seconds), and before shutting the engine off after a long drive, let the engine run for 30 seconds before shut down (this is a good time to gather your things like your wallet, put your sunglasses away, have a sip of water, get situated, etc.).
Mark of a good car is how well it performs after 120k miles. Good luck.
@@Savethemanuals94that's true i always laugh when people write my is fine i only have 23K 🤣...... F...n idiots they should drive 123K than talk
I love the steering too. I hope they didn’t soften it to a boring appliance like a crv.
Funny enough, I do the same warm-up procedure on my non-turbo CX 50!😁
@@Savethemanuals94 Doubt any modern car built in last 10 years would see 120k miles in this day and age. Things have changed, and the future is now, old man.
I rent a lot of vehicles while traveling for work. Almost all of them have issues that i don't like. This was one of the very few cars i got in, and I really liked it. Drove it for a week, and really enjoyed it for what it was.
I spent 2 years of my life building this car in Huntsville, Alabama and never got to drive it. I might go to the dealership......
As an owner, thanks. It's a great car
Hey Patrick, do you still work at the Huntsville, Alabama plant?
I like how he has the nasa shirt and travel mug. Nice tribute to the plant being in Huntsville.
I wouldn't admit this in public. That Alabama plant is producing some of the most problematic cars on the road. These CX50s are plagued with issues. Meanwhile, the CX5, which is built in Japan, is solid and gets excellent quality ratings.
@@majed6956 No issues with mine so far. 23k miles. Patrick I will buy you a drink if you are ever in Denver
We bought a CX-50 last week, although ours was the “preferred” trim level (second lowest). I feel that the lower trims is where the CX-50 really stands out from the competition. AWD was a requirement for us as it’s the easiest way to comply with Colorado’s traction law, but a similarly priced CR-V gives you steel wheels, bare minimum safety features, plus a CVT. The RAV felt outdated and doesn’t have wireless CarPlay, no keyless entry, and most importantly for us, no automatic climate control. We had company cars for years, and the CX-50 was the perfect escape from the mundane competition.
For sure, the fines get pricey if you're not prepared for the snow!
Mazda is offering 2500 cash on the Preferred , and many dealers are over stocked, are are willing to negotiate. I think this trim level at 5k under MSRP is a steal.
Good deal for sure!
Not the auto climate control😱
Buy a rav4 and you want AWD, they will add an extra $2k for it. You get AWD on the mazda, but remember it's front wheel drive first, AWD kicks in when it detects wheel slipping, with no button to push.
it feels like Mazda makes 1 SUV and just gave it 8 different names.
Pretty much, small brand they can’t develop separate chassis and still make money.
And slaps on different amount of black plastic
peak marketing strategy
😂
They really make two cars, the CX-90 and then everything else. The CX-90 seems like a different brand even
By default u can only use the touch screen while stop but u can change it on the settings to always have touch active. Plus the dial is honestly extremely easy to use
I initially dismissed the dial until I had a rental CX50 in Colorado for snowboarding last season The dial makes sense. You can touch while using CarPlay or Android Auto if you want but can use the dial alternatively for navigation around the interfaces. it may seem odd, but the latter is what I ended up using most often. :) Part of it is due to the size of the display the touch points would be smaller anyway. But after a little time, I found it very easy to spin the dial quickly and click.
(for reference I normally drive a JLR vehicle with a big touch display).
This goal system is by far my favorite. The only other one i really like is the one i had in a Cadillac xt6 i drove for a weekend.
I have no need for such a vehicle. But if I did, this would be the one I would go for. It looks and feels much better IMO than it's competitors.
Something I've never seen mentioned for taller people (6'2) that like to sit up higher: At a high seating position, the hood catches the reflection of cars in front of you and because the metal seems a little cheaper, it vibrates the reflection in your peripherals. It's annoying to the point that I had to lower the seat to eliminate the hood glare and of course I never noticed this on the test drive. Also the plastic casing on the gauge cluster somehow is pointed at an angle to where it reflects the sky on the top portion of the clear plastic, again all remedied by adjusting my seating position but it felt like both weird problems to be dealing with to begin with.
Outside of that, I love the car. This is my first brand new car and it's the perfect amount of tech. The dial set up for infotainment works so good with Apple Car Play and I didn't think I'd appreciate wireless apple car play as much as I do, which the lower CX5 trim models didn't have. Every time I get in the car and start driving, it feels like I'm in a premium vehicle. The layout of everything just looks and feels right.
Mazda is just the best man, like yes, the torsion beam is a thing, and yes, Mazda historically don't have great space (or at least the have less space than their rivals), bit this has soul, this has an identity, it looks amazing and Mazda focuses on driving dynamics.
And for that, though I wish Mazda had better packaging to have more space, Mazda is my favorite daily car brand.
You hit the nail on the head!😁
Bought my CX50 in December of 2022, and I just love it more and more! I have the non-turbo CX50 in the same beautiful color combo of the Soul Red Crystal! Very happy with my purchase!
Did you pay extra for that color? How much??
How is the road noise? Do you still like the lower power?
@@LazyTesla it depends on the type of road. Sometimes the road noise is higher than others. I don't know why Mazda didn't add the acoustic glass on the CX50 like with the CX5. I'm used to the power on it now after a year-and-a-half. My previous car had a v6, 275 horsepower. So there was a small adjustmnt, but It's pretty adequate. Yes, you have to pay extra for the Soul Red Crystal
appreciate your no bullshit approach. never feels like anyone is slipping you money.
Family member went into Mazda dealer looking at CX-90. Came out with the CX-50 non turbo premium plus. Loves it. CX-90 felt jittery and bumps crashed through the entire cabin. CX-50 felt much more nimble, and much more solid. Can live without the turbo. Not that much difference. Not worth the price upgrade. Previously had a CX-5 coming off lease. Lots of features. So far so good.
Wow. Really? I have the Turbo CX-5 and the Turbo makes a world of difference. Whenever I get a NA for a service loaner I cannot wait to get mine back. I’ve driven mostly 6cyl though so this was my first 4cyl and I cannot imagine it without the Turbo. But if you don’t notice the difference more power to ya, you’ll save a buck or two for sure.
Have to respectively disagree. The delta on a three year lease between turbo and non turbo was almost $120 per month. $4500 plus over three years. This car will be almost exclusively suburban driven. Does anyone really pay extra for premium fuel with the turbo when it runs fine on regular? I’ve owned the non turbo CX-5. It was fast enough. Sometimes it’s more fun to drive a slower car fast, than a faster car slow.
@@nathanielross8232 Sure. Many of these options are personal preference and or subjective. Personally I enjoy the extra boost of torque for city driving. The cost difference seems about right. It’s the same amount more whether you lease or buy it. I do run premium because it burns cleaner and is better for the engine and Turbo long term. I also enjoy the increased hp and torque at upper rpm when you really get on it. I just wanted to acknowledge that IMHO there is a significant difference in performance between the two.
Haha. Good one.
@@nathanielross8232owners manual for the Turbo cx-50 says can run either 87 or 93.... difference in HP.... 227 when on 87, 256 on 93. Torque, only +/-10.
The CX-50 is a handsome CUV in my less than humble opinion, but it would look much better with painted fender flares.
I totally agree with you. Either paint the fender flares, or make them narrower. And that is true for several other SUV’s as well. Seems like the stylists think wide, matte black wheel surrounds impart a sense of ruggedness, but to me it screams “cheap & ugly”.
Agreed. The plastic cladding is far too large for my liking - ruins the lines of the vehicle. Painting it would help. But it's not as hideous as the Subaru Outback Wilderness.
Agreed
The plastic flares are awesome. They’re the most like spots to get damaged so when they inevitably do, you can either just leave the scratches be because they won’t be visible or buy a replacement fended for cheap and replace it yourself. If it were painted and then damaged, repair costs would easily double or triple.
I wish Mazda would make body coloured cladding and bumpers available from the first year of production. I bought a 2017 CX5 brand new and wish I could have had the body color bumpers and cladding as well as the turbo available that year. Having said that, the shape of the CX50 is very Audi Off-road esk. I love wagons so if it becomes available with the body colour cladding, or even contrasting high gloss cladding in a grey colour, I’d consider it.
22k miles and I love it. No major issues so far, only some inconveniences.
Storage in the front is poor.
Couple people have these in my apartment building and I always catch myself looking twice when I drive past in the garage. For an SUV, it's pretty attractive design wise, especially the more "rugged" trims.
So true!
This is an excellent and informative review of a crossover that I like, mainly because Mazda still cares about driving dynamics.
Just picked up a 2021 CX-5 as a daily. Have to confirm Mark's comment about feeling nauseous in the back. Actually, I get nauseous taking longer drives as the driver. Just something about how its suspension is setup. It wallows in corners and with bumps in a way that seems to mimic waves on a boat. Keeping it because I love everything else about it, and I'm sure I'll get used to it like a person get's used to being in a boat or using VR. Also seems to be a problem not experienced by most, so most passengers should be alright.
And before anyone comments that "maybe you're not used to more sporty tuned vehicles," I've owned a lowered MK7 GTI, stock OG M2, and currently own a slightly lowered 991.1 Carrera. Definitely used to sporty cars.
Anyone who equates the CX-5's ride with a sporty car is a bit daft IMO. Maybe the dampers on your CX-5 are on their way out though? I bought a '24 CX-5 last month and the ride/damping is pretty good, but all SUVs wallow and move around a lot due to their high center of gravity and high weight.
@@bradcomis1066 The only reason I added that second part was because when people post this complaint, the common response is "maybe you're just not used to sportier suspension," which is definitely not true in my case.
This car is totally fine. It's a 2021 with less than 17k miles. It's basically brand new. No way the suspension is bad. Just think this one wallows in an uncanny valley way. Not so soft as to avoid the problem, but not so stiff as to avoid the problem. I'm sure I'll get used to it before long.
You’re just not used to driving boats.
@@Love2Cruise A natural conclusion, and my guess, as well. But I do drive rental cars pretty often, and drive my parents' SUV, truck and minivan when I visit them. I thought that'd give me enough "exposure" to be able to handle it. Also, for other people who've expressed the same issue, I imagine they aren't all driving sports cars regularly. Likely this is just another reliable NPC car for them. You'd think they'd be used to it too.
I dunno! Lol. Don't care toooo much, as long as I get used to it before long.
My old 2019 Rav4 was waay more wallowy. I owned a 2013 BRZ on coilovers and I'd put the CX-5 on the 19"s at least closer to that car than the Rav4 on the handling front. Maybe the 2024s like I have has updated damping compared to the 21's??
The slower the car, the more exaggerated the "yeahhhhhhh" is when they floor it
I’ve had a 23 Meridian Edition for a little over a year now and love it. It was before they made the suspension/steering changes but they honestly never bothered me. Use it for hauling PE Equipment to my schools, take my family camping with our teardrop, and everything in between. Words cannot describe how much I enjoy it.
Im surprised you guys are saying the reliability is not looking good for the 2.5T skyactive engine. From my numerous hours of research, its often regarded as a reliable engine and Mazdas in general are seem as a really reliable brand between Consumer Reports, JD power, Protegez-vous (a renown canadian consumer protection group), etc. Their reliability is the reason I pulled the trigger on my 2024 cx5 signature.
True, they have been using the engine for the cx9 for years, now it's in the 3, cx30, cx5, cx50. It would be bad for mazda if that engine was not reliable.
There were issues with the 2.5t equipped cars from 2016-2019 and there is a TSB that was put out as well.
@@mr2turbo12 but those issues have been fixed since
it's no so much the engine, as it is the turbos
I have a cx-30 turbo. It is a total oil burner.
To Mazda's credit they are the only company that makes cars / SUV's that are enjoyable for the driver. They provide excellent feedback, and can be fun to drive. The competition, by comparison, makes "appliances". Honda, Toyota makes very good vehicles, that are very reliable, but appliances by comparison.
I have a 23 and actually love the heavier steering. So far, an awesome vehicle.
I really appreciate the overall fit, finish and attention to details. Bumper covers, door panels, interior and exterior trim pieces feels better engineered than Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Kia and Subarus. I'm no Sandy Munro, but being in the collision repair industry, certain details are nice to see.
I'm happy with my CX5 , it has multilink rear suspension and it feels great to drive
Good to know.
Would you know what's the advantage of the CX50? The CX-5 exterior looks better, to me at least.
I have yet to drive the ‘24 to compare but I love my ‘23 even with the NA engine. The handling lets you get away with so much more than you should be able to in something of this category. It’s the perfect option for “slow car fast” kind of driving in a practical package
I don't have the CX-50, but I own the 2019 Mazda6 with the N/A 2.5 and all independent suspension front and rear. About to hit 60K with no issues, and it's fun to drive. Too bad they quit making that car.
@@joesailor61it's supposedly making a comeback with a new design, RWD, and a inline6 with 8 speed transmission like the cx-90... but it's still in the rumor mill...for now. It's also to be priced above $60k... we shall only see what comes when announced.
@@gailenrique2804 I heard it was making a comeback, but if that's the price it is way too steep for me
Does NOT look like an Aztec.
The Aztec is it's own special ugly
It looks pretty similar to a Mercedes GLC.
Not at all. These two have really lost their touch.
Hmm. Scratching my head on that one. It’s a beautiful looking car!
That’s the Purosangue
Thanks for the review fellas! Looking forward to hearing your long term updates. Marks review of the 2016 CX-5 is what made me purchase that vehicle, and I've been super happy with that decision.
I remember when my driveshaft and rear diff looked that clean and well-put-together. But with years of stress followed by lack of use, my wife feels sick looking at the decrepit and atrophy'd state of it.
What about your wife's boyfriends drive shaft?
Are you... talking about a car?...
I recently got a CX-5 (I wanted a 50, but went with the 5 due to it's shorter dimensions, and independent rear - I traded in my 2015 GTI for it.)
My wife got a CX-50 a couple of months later.
Honestly, I can't understand how anyone shopping in this category price and sizewise doesn't choose a Mazda, unless you REALLY need the utility a CRV or RAV4 might offer.
The Mazda's are so much nicer than the competition.
Remember, toyota is known for reliability... Honda likes to be competitive but use a CVT transmission.... while Mazda is the in-between. You don't get the roominess of the rav4 or CR-v, but you get a standard tried and true 6 speed transmission, that, unlike toyotas 8-speed is known to fail. Now if mazda gave 4 years maintenance, who could resist??
@@gailenrique2804 And you get much better styling as well.
Still in love with mine after 12.5k miles
I am leasing a 2023 CX-50 Preferred Plus (trim dropped for 2024) non-turbo. This is my fourth Mazda. Eight years ago (it's been that long) I started with a 2016 Mazda3 hatchback Touring 2.0, followed with a 2018 CX-5 Touring AWD, and then a 2020 CX-5 Touring FWD. Compared with the CX-5's I prefer the wider and longer interior of the CX-50. I also find that the CX-50 has less body roll than the CX-5 (either AWD or FWD). I do with that Mazda used the better side windows of the CX-5 on the CX-50 as more noise gets through the glass (I can hear water run along the windows when it rains or using the windshield washers). I have no issues with the ride or steering of the CX-50.
Thank you for planning to do direct comparisons! Looking forward to it.
I love this for Mazda. Glad to hear this hits the mark in all the right ways over last year's model.
From what I have read, the 2025 CX-50 will offer a hybrid version using the Toyota Rav4 hybrid system & engine.
There's videos on RUclips showing a Toyota hybrid engine in the cx-50.... in China.
Big fan of these tests. Thank you guys for putting it through its paces. Big reason I got a Gen 3 Mazda 3.
i have a 24 with the 17inch wheels and its a very comfortable ride, you guys always test the 20 inch models the difference is day and night
You’re probably right, but I love the look of my 20 inch wheels on my CX 50!😎
Front storage is poor.
@@CRVgaragecompared to what?
Just bought one and it’s awesome
Just bought the CX50 premium. Enjoy the solid ride and don’t feel like I am riding atop of a CUV. Found two software bugs. 1. you can add same station to favorites multiple times. Wish you could hold button to unfavorite 2. Screen Display At Night. Auto dimming does not work. Automatic and Day are same brightness. Switch to night goes dim. The dashboard buttons seem to override the screen settings. regardless auto dimming does not work. Aside from that enjoy how Mazda focuses on driving dynamics not flashy tech. Agree wish seats were a little longer.
Mark's branded underwear comes pre-stained so nobody can tell if you thought the test drive was a bit too 'aggressive'
I have a '23. Steering? It isn't heavy. I grew up driving cars with NO power steering and even as a 58yo male. I have not had an issue at all with mine.
Agreed my gf has a turbo 23 and she doesn’t notice anything heavy about the steering and she’s 5ft tall, 110 pounds 😂
How does the meridian model do on the busted pavement? It has 17” rims instead of 19”. A little sidewall can make a difference.
As probably the only person that owns both a CX-50 and Pontiac Aztek, I agree with the styling similarities.
That is the funniest thing I've read this week 🤣
Uh,no!
Wonder what Walter White would say about a CX-50 ?
A Bowl of Cap'n Crunch, a menthol cigarette, a blinding sunrise, and SavageGeese...
What a way to start the week.
Well done.
I haven't been up before the sun since I started smoking menthols
Nutrient index:
Cap’n Crunch: 1%
Menthols Cigarette: 0%
Sunrise: 1%
Savagegeese: 98%
Checks out
@@oppos727 Cap'n Crunch isn't even a real captain. He only has three stripes on his uniform.
@@international-arms-dealer Try switching to natural tobacco (from non-establishment brands), then to vape, then to health and happiness.
Imagine having a family
A week ago, I test drove an NA '24 CX-5, which I liked a lot, and then an NA '24 CX-50. I immediately disliked the CX-50 to the point where I cut the test drive short. I went back to the CX-5 and traded in my '24 Seltos turbo. I liked the "tried and true" of a vehicle that has been in production for years.
You bought the Kia outright or paid it off before trading in?? Which trim level cx5 did you get?
@@gailenrique2804 It was a lease and the Mazda dealer made an arrangement with a Kia dealer to take the vehicle. The Kia dealer could "CPO" it and sell it for more money than the Mazda dealer. I work at a Kia dealer, which made it awkward. I bought the Preferred because for not much more money than the trim lower that that I got some features that were of value to me. Actually, my wife was there for a CX-90, I saw the smaller options and we got 2 vehicles.
@savagegeese when does the comparison video come out? Any thoughts on the 2025 VW Tiguan?
The HELMET 😂🤣🤣🤣
I love my 50 Turbo. The steering and brake pedal feel puts a lot of sporty and dedicated sports cars to shame. The twist beam isn’t the fanciest, but it’s simple and doesn’t need to be aligned. And due to it also acting as the biggest rear anti-sway bar, it rotates better than something with independent suspension through corners. I like that it can tow 3500 lbs as well. Speaking of towing, it’s so stable with tow mode activated. I think it’s one of the better CUVs out there, especially for people coming from sports cars or people who want to add a CUV next to their sports cars.
Well said!
This will likely be my next vehicle
Mark looking like "The Mighty Kazoo" in a CX-50 just made my Day
Great Kazoo…dum dum 😂
@@JodieMix
I’m sure you got the point , sounds like you still watch it?? 🤡🙄
Flintstones? Sure. Classic cartoon.
I tested the '23 cx50 Turbo and it was a nice everywhere except power and mileage. Slower than my 14 year old V6 Venza with about the same fuel mileage (22 vs 24 mpg).
Good video. Suggest dialing back a bit on the rapid speech--it often comes across as mumbling. Subscribing today!
3:37 Looks like they changed the design of the coolant filler/cap housing, the black plastic piece at the bottom right of the engine cover with the radiator hose coming out of it. That blasted thing gave way at the seams on my 2018 turbo 6 and luckily it was just a few days before I went to change my spark plugs at 40k miles. I noticed the smell but nothing looked off until I took the cover off I found the green coolant sprayed all over the place. Always check for leaks under all the plastic bits any time you have your hood open for oil changes, etc.
These overviews are so intelligent and immensely helpful. I'm curious why when talking about competition and choices in this market, a car like the Subaru Forester isn't mentioned in the same breath as the CR-V or the Tiguan or the Rav4. Not a complaint, just curious.
Had a Rav 4 recently for a couple of weeks due to an accident , it was the most practical car I've ever driven. Good gas mileage, easy to drive, and great storage. Might be my next vehicle.
My parents were shopping the Honda CR-V as a replacement for their daily Ford Fusion runabout. I suggested they check out the CX-50, especially since Mazda tweaked the ride this year. They actually took my advice to check out Mazda, which originally wasn't really on their radar. Then they bought a CX-5. An aged car at the end of its lifecycle. They drove both, but just liked the ride and "feel" of the CX-5 more. We live in the rust belt too (MI) so I'm thinking the beam axle might have played a part in the CX-50 taking second place to the CX-5. I checked out their new ride recently and for an older vehicle/platform, it is still extremely impressive, especially with the turbo engine.
I like your reviews. Jack’s 0-60 acceleration face is awesome! Next time you two argue over a car you should
Have a pistol duel. Flintlock style.
We had a RAV4 rental for a week in Yellowstone. I have to say that it was easy to drive and not as floaty/lack-of-feel as I was expecting. I normally drive a Mazda3. The main thing I didn’t like about the RAV4 was the CVT. For that reason, our next car will probably be another Mazda or whatever is out there with a normal transmission.
The RAV4 doesn't have a CVT.
Unless it was the hybrid model, the rav4 has an 8 speed.
The hybrid has an eCVT, no belt to fail.
@@ofcbob6391 only in the hybrid version
Get the Sportage.
The issue with the 2.5 turbo was a simple problem of faulty valve seals d/t supply chain shortages that mazda has been replacing under warranty. Mine was replaced at 50,000 ml, and my engine hasn't had any issues since. My CX-30 has been bulletproof otherwise.
10:30 agreed, I want a hybrid version of the CX-30 and CX-50. I really wouldn't consider anything that doesn't have at least a hybrid at this point, HEV, PHEV, or EV only.
This fall you’ll have the 2025 CX-50 Hybrid, with the RAV4 Hybrid powertrain dropped in. So the rest of the year, strong deals on all 2024 CX-50’s…
If they made a hybrid CX30 then it would be my next car without question. Hoping and praying that Mazda will do it.
I own my cars until they are worn-out, so a hybrid is not something I want. The price of battery replacement often results in perfectly good cars being scrapped. I don't see how this is good for the owner or the environment.
@@ccrider8483 It’s not an EV, and hybrids have advanced far past early years. Plus hybrid battery replacements aren’t as extreme. Think of all the 300-500k Prius, Camry & RAV4 hybrids being beat to death as taxi’s, etc in big cities…
Point to consider. But honestly any modern car is so complex, even non hybrid, long term is a concern for any brand & any car, anymore, even just with the features & other sensors & controls.
@@ccrider8483 you say that like you have to change the batteries every two years. Hybrids can easily go ten years or more without much to worry about. 150-200k miles is where lithium pack replacements seem to start to become necessary. And looking it up, replacing the battery in my Ioniq Hybrid is about $5k, which isn’t bad.
It's okay but as sales reflect most people still prefer the CX-5... 3-1 RATIO in sales.
People buy what they’re familiar with. The CX-5 has the better suspension setup, while the CX-50 has the better turbo engine from a reliability standpoint (a simple twin-scroll turbocharger in the CX-50, versus Mazda’s proprietary and somewhat complex “dynamic pressure” turbocharger in the CX-5 and other models). The models that use the dynamic pressure turbo are prone to head gasket issues, and this is just due to the design of their dynamic pressure system.
@@clutch7366 they're really using two different turbocharger systems in the CX-5 2.5t vs the CX-50 2.5t? That's interesting. And strange. Either way I'd just buy the n/a 2.5L though.
@@clutch7366 From the visual of the video, the back engine bay looked exactly the same as the other 2.5T
Great review, hope for improvements on the torsion beam and a hybrid soon
I'm very interested to see the rotary powered hybrid review.
Best looking and driving CUV in its class…the everyman’s BMW.
Of course Mark feels more comfortable wearing a helmet because it reminds him of his childhood rides on the small bus.
63 years later & Mark still remembers.
Just got went to the CX50 preferred, downsizing from the CX9 Turbo. Its been good on gas, and still runs lovely. And i like the look of it. You feel the difference coming down form the Turbo obviously but Sport mode is surprisingly good. Mazda has been good to me 4 years in so far. Hoping for a hybrid in the future.
As much as i love mazda, their handling of the crack prone 2.5 turbo engines ( search mazda 2.5 turbo TSB) and people getting screwed when their whole engines had to be replaced, alot of times post warranty time but prior of hitting anything close to 100k+ miles , makes ne hesitant of longterm reliability of that engine, even with the revised parts.
I drove 2023 mazda cx50 and i did not feel good as the staring was heavy and the drive was not of a mazda, but in 2024 they fixed the flaws and now the drive is as god as cx5 and the driving and handling is great. iam so happy that mazda fixed cx 50 now and the car is as great as cx 5. Well did mazda u r great zoom zoom
How did u get the 2024 updates in your 2023?
My wife chose a top of the line turbo just before the 2024s came out. I like the old steering and braking, and love the power, but I don’t like the ride quality. Can owners of the 2023 switch the shocks to the ones on the 2024 or are they not compatible? Would it make a noticeable difference? Second, I don’t like the 20 inch wheels, but we had to get them to get a heated steering wheel, which the wife insisted on. I would like to switch to the factory 18 inch wheels with a nice all weather Michelin tire with a severe snow rating, but Mazda says I shouldn’t do it. Why not?
Gas mileage sucks; lucky if I get 25 mpg on the highway and when I towed just 1000 lbs, I was getting 14 mpg.
I don’t like the entertainment system; too hard to change radio bands and stations. I don’t like that the touch capacity of the screen is limited to using Apple CarPlay. Seats are hard, but I got used to them and an extra pad helps. Unlike my leased F-150s, I own this so I intend to change the oil every 5K to avoid issues down the line.
Overall, I don’t think I’d buy it again, but it’s the wife’s car, so it’s her choice.
You could have chosen the Turbo premium which is one below the plus, it also has the heated steering wheel. You can do android auto... it works with it. You just have to pair your android phone to the radio. Works like apple carplay.
I bet this would be a great replacement for our Forester Wilderness that is abysmally slow and get similar MPGs to my truck.
You got a CVT in that Forrester. In this cx-50 is a 6 speed transmission. If you go lite off-roading, go with a Turbo Meridian. Don't want to break the bank, or have a need for the turbo, but still have a balance of price and features, get the preferred.
I like the Mazda CX50 Turbo, I think it would be a worthwhile exercise to do a comparison video against Acura RDX and Honda Passport
Just got a carbon turbo cx30 last month :D
All mazda needs is some hybrid options, and they''ll really steal some marketshare.
Their current lineup is slightly antiquated for tech and drivetrain... but on the otherhand more bulletproof affordable and stylish than its competitors.
Yes, the hybrid is needed like yesterday!
I’d like to know what reliability issues Jack is talking about. The 2.5T is a very complex engine that you have to take care of but I’ve owned two of these powertrains neither with any problems.
I prefer the CX-5.
I want them to review the current CX-5 as well
The current CX-5 is really nice but it’s a little dated. I think I would take the 50, personally.
@@sheputthelimeinthecoconut629dated also means most problems fleshed out and less repairs over the years plus the CX-5 is made in Japan
@@sheputthelimeinthecoconut629 ..new CX5 coming in 2025/26 !
I agree with you, I have a 21' GTR (Grand Touring Reserve).. and it's old and bullet proof, most of the bugs are out that's why I bought it. So far, so good🤞
We love ours.
I got one of these....love it
Deciding right now between a Mazda cx90, lexus rx 350, or gx 460. The mazda 0.9 apr for 60 months lets me get a bit more car. But as a breeder, I'm really drawn to lexus reliability
I like the styling of Mazdas
Just don’t lick the windows!🤣 Best reviewers!
I love my CX50 turbo 2024
Thanks, for your video and the updated review. I'm also glad that you basically like it and the improvements. But overall, I still prefer the CX-5 Signature, like the one I drive, over the CX-50. I still think it's a little better and better built car with the multi-link suspension and features like the 40/20/40 rear seats and a better value, since it's priced a little less. I'll be looking forward to your review of the hybrid version when it comes out later this year. Thanks, again.
Mazda’s Turbo CX50 AWD is probably more of a match to the base Acura RDX and base model Honda Passport
I had a 21 CX30..........Ride was so harsh I had to let it go......And back to Subaru........I really wanted a CX50, but read numerous reports that that ride was even more harsh than the CX30........I am 81...have been thru enough jarring rides and demand a smother ride........And I live on a pothole filled road...............In My Eyes the CX50 in soul ride is the most beautiful car on the road..........Please, Mazda, Give Us old timers a softer ride........And go back to 65 series rubber.........We drove on these taller sidewalls for 50 Years and never suffered any "HANDLING" problems..............All cars need not be designed for raceing....................Paul
CX-50 is built in USA alongside Toyota products. I bought a CX-5 three mos ago and yesterday I bought another CX-5 after a prolonged mental debate between them.
Although the improved steering is now lighter, how would you compare the steering to the CX-5 ?
My FICO Auto Score 8 is 740 vs Auto Score 2 is 716 (overall FICO Score 8 is 770. What is chance of getting the best rate or the current Mazda 0% interest rate ? Should I wait for the Auto score 2 to increase to min 740? Appreciate if anyone can give me (first car buyer) few opinions
I drive one of these all the time when I'm dreaming at night. The steering is precise and the handling is surprisingly agile and there's a lot of room in the back for my 7 Japanese girl friends. Plus is looks rugged and tough, unlike my actual car which is the city bus I take to work at my local Amazon warehouse. I smell like onions.
i've got the '24 Meridian edition polymetal Gray and I love it, truly feels fun to drive. Makes our '24 Forester sport feel completely numb compared to it.
I love the styling as well whoever gave it those fender flares did a great job with the shape. My wife chided me for paying extra for "hood decals" but they are cool...eighteen inch wheels also make a difference in sucking up the bad road conditions up here in Ontario.
18”s I feel like are they way to go for this car. It is too bad that the meridian isn’t a turbo premium plus in the States, as it is in Canada. Meridian here is equipped like a base turbo. I have been looking at Cx50’s here but I wish I could buy a Canadian market one for this reason.
Hmm in the states here u can get a turbo or non turbo meridian preferred.
Hasn't Mazda announced that they are putting a Toyota 2.5 liter hybrid powertrain in the CX-50? Wouldn't that make this the "perfect" vehicle (i.e., getting the 40 mpg instead of 320 ft-lb of torque)?
It sure would!
I think the proof is in the pudding here. Esp macro sense with Mazda and Savage geese. You don't long term a car you know you'll hate. So yes. Mazdas..folks buy more. And simplicity is good. It's reliable and consistant and earnest.
Mark looks like Commander Keen.
The soundtracks from those games live rent free in my head.
So what horsepower do you get when you put 91 octane in it (as opposed to 93)? Here in California, we’re limited to 91.
I upgraded from a 18 cx5 touring and now have a 24 cx50 2f.5 premium. Concern about long term turbo. The Cx50 is a better vehicle to me. I don’t see a decrease in quality I personally perfer the dash layout and wider cargo. It feels more planted. In comparison my Cx5 felt hallow. I don’t notice the difference between the torsion and the independent but I do know turn is in more lively in the CX50.
Nice thing about Mazdas is that most dealerships don't add on a bunch of crap in order to jack the price up.
Car reviewers are awesome. So much opinion. You guys are great. You should try working in the car industry. We'd love to see that. Keep the deep voice, you'll go places.
I love mine. Most fun suv I’ve ever driven and looks amazing. It’s one of the few vehicles I’ve found exciting in years.
I’ve owned the competition as well and it’s no contest.
You should try a BMW 330i
When you say late built 2023 variants, do you mean model year or calendar year? I’m looking for a used CC-50 and hoping to snag the best bang for the buck. Thank you for the great content.