This is the first video I've seen where somebody actually put this to the test. Its been a question many have pondered and even though some of us know, in theory, what would happen its never been tried. Great job!
Thank you for this video! It’s not even my car and I cringed every time you hammered the throttle 😂. I know boosting high compression engines has been done for a long time now but it still blows me away that we put 10-12 pounds of boost to a stock engine with 11 or 12:1 compression and it can survive. High compression and high boost was a bad combo lol back in the day. Gotta love engine tech and guys like Justin who figure it out. Great work!
Just wow…you guys are brave souls to do that experiment. I always tell guys that a tune is far more static than the fuel quality and or temperature. You just never know what you’ll get in a day to day basis.
Great video, finally someone crazy enough to do this test lol. I wish someone would do this with a stock Gt with 87 and then 93. Wonder since Ford says 87 at 480hp. Curious to see if you get a bump stock in the timing and hp department.
Fuel is generally very close to the posted octane number at the pump. Its close enough to round up, or within a few tenths above. The variance is usually due to the RON and MON numbers. If RON is higher, MON can be lower and still average out to meet the posted octane rating. Lower MON hurts how the fuel acts at WOT. Winter blends have a lot of butane (a high octane component). If its not stored properly the butane can evaporate and lower octane as well. Lots of variables.
All fuel contains the same power per droplet. But it's the octane and addictives that allows the timing. ECU's these days are so quick in adjusting timing to suit it makes it safer. But what we tell customers, yes you can daily on a cheaper or lower grade fuel, but if you choose to race or abuse it with that lower grade fuel, you will run the risk of damaging the engine from det, knock and poor ignition, and engine building excessive heat. However, some manufacturers have tuned ECU's with back up information, that if the customer does put lower grade of fuel in, it will actually start injecting more fuel than being on premium or ultimate, to help reduce cylinder temps, but who wants to really run the risk of loosing the engine, and costing more for fuel?
What irritates me with Whipple, is why TF do they not take advantage of the mustangs, and f-150’s e-85 capabilities from the factory. Guy at OZ Tuning has files where the stock fuel system will support it… With a bone stock Whipple stage 2 kit, and the gains can be had with as little as 30% content… Why Whipple wouldn’t do the same thing… Ask the customer, what fuel do you plan to run? We have a 91/93 tune, and an E-85.
Nobody should really be buying premium fuel in new vehicles unless you plan on driving it hard like track etc or he very few high performance cars. The computer will just pull timing they have knock sensors. It will still make good power. Should of done all the pulls in 4th gear. Making a baseline run then doing them all different after makes no sense and proves nothing. And what was the octane number after the additive?
Back in '08 when gas prices got crazy, I had a '07 Infiniti M45 sport that said "premium fuel REQUIRED for maximum performance." I always put 93 in until it was $5/gallon. I switched to 89 and it did make a difference in performance. The car wasn't as quick, wouldn't brake traction, and overall didn't feel the same. I have a '20 M5 competition now that also requires at least 91 octane for maximum performance. It even goes further and recommends Shell V-Power of which I do run most of the time. I probably could put 87 or 89 in there, but I suspect it wouldn't even start😂.
This is the first video I've seen where somebody actually put this to the test. Its been a question many have pondered and even though some of us know, in theory, what would happen its never been tried. Great job!
Almost no one tests things. They just know a friend of a friend of a cousin that blew an engine.
Thank you for this video! It’s not even my car and I cringed every time you hammered the throttle 😂. I know boosting high compression engines has been done for a long time now but it still blows me away that we put 10-12 pounds of boost to a stock engine with 11 or 12:1 compression and it can survive. High compression and high boost was a bad combo lol back in the day. Gotta love engine tech and guys like Justin who figure it out. Great work!
Just wow…you guys are brave souls to do that experiment. I always tell guys that a tune is far more static than the fuel quality and or temperature. You just never know what you’ll get in a day to day basis.
Great video, finally someone crazy enough to do this test lol. I wish someone would do this with a stock Gt with 87 and then 93. Wonder since Ford says 87 at 480hp. Curious to see if you get a bump stock in the timing and hp department.
I can’t remember if VMP did that test or not but someone did. Good results for sure.
Fuel is generally very close to the posted octane number at the pump. Its close enough to round up, or within a few tenths above. The variance is usually due to the RON and MON numbers. If RON is higher, MON can be lower and still average out to meet the posted octane rating. Lower MON hurts how the fuel acts at WOT. Winter blends have a lot of butane (a high octane component). If its not stored properly the butane can evaporate and lower octane as well. Lots of variables.
You lost me at STD smoothing showing RWHP and RWTQ numbers.
Any serious tuner uses SAE as the new and current standard 😂
For science!!
Why didn't you guys stay in 4th for all the test
About 15yrs ago I had a Honda b18b1 56mm turbo and I was able to make 300hp on 87 with no knock obviously 93 did more power and safer but I was amazed
That exactly why I add a shot of Boostane to every fill up. Well, that and it helps me sleep at night.
You are a brave Man! Is there any benefit to adding Boostane to 93 octane fuel, or is it just a waste of money?
Love the content
All fuel contains the same power per droplet. But it's the octane and addictives that allows the timing. ECU's these days are so quick in adjusting timing to suit it makes it safer. But what we tell customers, yes you can daily on a cheaper or lower grade fuel, but if you choose to race or abuse it with that lower grade fuel, you will run the risk of damaging the engine from det, knock and poor ignition, and engine building excessive heat. However, some manufacturers have tuned ECU's with back up information, that if the customer does put lower grade of fuel in, it will actually start injecting more fuel than being on premium or ultimate, to help reduce cylinder temps, but who wants to really run the risk of loosing the engine, and costing more for fuel?
Really good to know thanks!😊
would love to charge my 2019 gt, just gotta swap jobs first.
Can the fuel system take e85? If so would it be worth it to add a couple gallons of e85 if you can only get 91 vs 93?
What irritates me with Whipple, is why TF do they not take advantage of the mustangs, and f-150’s e-85 capabilities from the factory.
Guy at OZ Tuning has files where the stock fuel system will support it…
With a bone stock Whipple stage 2 kit, and the gains can be had with as little as 30% content…
Why Whipple wouldn’t do the same thing…
Ask the customer, what fuel do you plan to run?
We have a 91/93 tune, and an E-85.
Reopen the Keystone!
does it have a return style fuel system.
Cool, but risky test VMP!!
✊
Knock knock
Don’t answer
😂
It's going to pull timing and limit power.
When will your Gen 3R go on sale now that you have kicked the 2007-2009 Shelby GT 500 owners to the curd and your going with Wipple …When. ?
Well you went to circle k… go to shell or Costco.
So basically you re explained the adaptive octane logic from 2011…good job
Kinda weird to be working with the competition. It looks like a whipple that you rebadged.
Tell me your sponsored....without...
So it’s a fuel additive ad…. Lol
Sounds like it's an if you screw up there's a way to fix it tho. Nice to have an option
I miss my Loki Boss so much
Nobody should really be buying premium fuel in new vehicles unless you plan on driving it hard like track etc or he very few high performance cars. The computer will just pull timing they have knock sensors. It will still make good power. Should of done all the pulls in 4th gear. Making a baseline run then doing them all different after makes no sense and proves nothing. And what was the octane number after the additive?
Back in '08 when gas prices got crazy, I had a '07 Infiniti M45 sport that said "premium fuel REQUIRED for maximum performance." I always put 93 in until it was $5/gallon. I switched to 89 and it did make a difference in performance. The car wasn't as quick, wouldn't brake traction, and overall didn't feel the same. I have a '20 M5 competition now that also requires at least 91 octane for maximum performance. It even goes further and recommends Shell V-Power of which I do run most of the time. I probably could put 87 or 89 in there, but I suspect it wouldn't even start😂.
Stupid the truck has same engine runs 87 all day
These dum videos again... yalll just clowning at this point
What was dumb about this one?
Junk car 🤮🤮
Sell outs
Love the Carbon intake