Wife doesn't owe OP in story 2 anything. He only found out and wanted to apologize for his abusive behavior. He did towards his wife over his own insecurities .
Yeah, how can your entire male side of the family ruin your relationship just to try and get with your wife? That had been me, hearing that I would become the last male relative of our family, the rest of the male members just became missing people.
Ugh first story reminds me of an OP who also found out her mother slept with her husband. Except they were still sleeping together, had multiple children, and mom was grooming husband all the way back at age 14. This story doesn’t have the grooming excuse I hope OP remains strong. She got caught up in a family of snakes
I remember that story, the twins were devastated when they found out that their BIL is their bio dad. Even worse when mom and her family had history of serial cheaters.
With that story imo, there's a limit to how far the grooming excuse can go. Yeah, he was a kid, but to keep doing it for nearly 2 decades? And the horrible things he said to his wife? Yeah, no.
2nd Story: The last commenter needs to never give advice again 😅 OP was emotionally abusive to his wife over things that the men in his family were all saying to him and ultimately weren't true. I get that he was manipulated, but that doesn't give him an excuse to treat his ex the way he did, and she is making a mature and intelligent decision not to take a second chance on someone that likely left her with a lot of trauma. In the end, it sounds like she did forgive him, but forgiveness doesn't always mean reconciliation. In truth, she handled it way less petty than some of us would have, and deserves her flowers for handling it with as much grace as she did (though I wouldn't have begrudged her if she had been petty instead because what a prick). It also sounds like she tried to warn him about his family before by the wisdom she offered him in the end, but he never listened until it was too late for them. Frankly, he needs to listen to more women in his life, not just the men: if you're only listening to advice from one side, you're missing half of the conversation.
Somebody needs to try and tell me how "One thing led to another". Like the guy was happy, the Mom wasn't acting weird and they were having Dinner like they have done for years. WTF was the thing that led to fucking your Future In-Law?
story 1 in time they will suffer the consequences because if they cheat with you they will cheat on you and i dont see their relationship of cheaters lasting. Story 2 This doormat now he is sorry for what he put his wife through for being a moron and not even proving what they were saying was the truth, glad she didint take him back
Story 1 you just walk away you don't necessarily have to keep this toxicity in your life. Story 2 y'all need therapy seriously and you're not needed to stay in this circle of toxins S3 get therapy and try to find happiness you mostly need healthy healing to move forward
Because he was a child too from what it sounds like most people consider COCSA (child in child SA) as a victim on victim vi0lence situation rather than an ab*ser on victim vi0lence situation due to the fact most children don't SA others for no reason and they're usually suffering from it too
1st story title was worded wrong, I thought it meant mil knew the whole time, 2nd story the op was just stupid and deserved to be left, 3rd story the mom just let the brother touch the op? Brother needed to commit the self deletion
It seems like he did. I think the parents egged him on to abuse his sister. Abusive narcissistic types do relish into seeing their kids abusing one another.
It seems he did do that. I have a feeling the parents egged him on to abuse his sister. His self harm seems to be a call for help, that the parents redirected towards his sister. Abusive parents relish into using their kids to abuse their other ones.
Story 2 You NEVER talk to friends and family about your issues!!!!! EVER! you know who i talked to about my issues? Counselors, therapists There was 1 or 2 other people who weren't officially my therapist but they were definitely certified. My parents NEVER knew what was wrong in my marriage. Neither did his Nor my friends Because THIS can be the result The outright stupidity
There was an update 5 days ago: Update 19.08 - I'm moving!! Hi everyone! so I'm finally here with an update and a good one at that. IM MOVING TO SPAIN!!! I got the job as an au pair near one of the biggest cities in Spain. I'm so excited. I'm flying in a few days and starting 01.09 with the family. The kids are adorable too. I will be learning Spanish too, which I always wanted to do anyways so it all feels like heaven sent. I haven't told almost anyone about it, just a few friends I trust and of course my cousin who I live with. Also my boss. My mother has been telling people I'm being mean to her when she wants to fix everything. She made a mistake and is trying to fix it but I'm being difficult. She is just "human". Not surprising. I'm now really coming to terms on how self-centered she is and has always been. I'm sad I lost the mom I thought I had. Feels like if she died. My new therapist (yes, I got one the last week yay) said I'm grieving. Max has left me a bit a lone since the last call we had. I heard he is focusing on my little brother and just staying under the radar. I have had some short phone calls with my little brother which has been bitter sweet, but he is doing okay. He of course doesn't know what's really happening but he is happy with having a "new dad". It doesn't hurt as much as it did before, but still hurts. Thank you all for all the support
I thought the first story was bad.... the last one tho. All those people need to be in separate institutions. None of that is normal. Ever her at the end feeling bad that he's dead and missing him and thinking he was he best friend when he was her rapist as well as her brother. When she goes off the deep end, a lot of people are not going to make it.
In horrifically abusive situations, the mind will find ways to cope and adapt to survive. Love bombing isn't just a thing that happens in romantic relationships. It's an extremely common tactic to keep the victim from breaking free and make them feel guilty for telling anyone, hating their abuser, escaping, etc. That girl is going to need a fck ton of therapy to come to grips with what happened to her and be able to reconcile her mental image of the brother she loved and accept the painful truth that he was a monster. Unfortunately, SA and CSA survivors are at a high risk of being abused again by someone else. Predators are very good at zeroing in on vulnerable , damaged people, especially those who haven't fully identified the traits of a predator and what is and isn't normal.
@madalice5134 I am personally well aware of what can and does happen to some people who have lived through SA and CSA. The brother didn't try to guilt her tho. The brother didn't do any of that, just the parents. The brother was enabled by the parents even tho the mother had to see it with her own eyes when she was an infant. What I said still stands, when the truth finally hits her, a lot of people will pay the price for it.
Wife doesn't owe OP in story 2 anything. He only found out and wanted to apologize for his abusive behavior. He did towards his wife over his own insecurities .
I am standing in the kitchen listening to stories yelling out, WTF is wrong with these people? 😮 OH MAH GAWD. 😮
Yeah, how can your entire male side of the family ruin your relationship just to try and get with your wife? That had been me, hearing that I would become the last male relative of our family, the rest of the male members just became missing people.
Ugh first story reminds me of an OP who also found out her mother slept with her husband. Except they were still sleeping together, had multiple children, and mom was grooming husband all the way back at age 14. This story doesn’t have the grooming excuse
I hope OP remains strong. She got caught up in a family of snakes
I remember that story, the twins were devastated when they found out that their BIL is their bio dad. Even worse when mom and her family had history of serial cheaters.
God I remember that story too
With that story imo, there's a limit to how far the grooming excuse can go. Yeah, he was a kid, but to keep doing it for nearly 2 decades? And the horrible things he said to his wife? Yeah, no.
I remember that too that mother was a sicko
@@crowfather0249 grooming just doesn't magically disappear with age. Especially if you never got away from your groomer.
1 story her mother is disgusted doing that to OP I hope karma gets the both cheater’s and OP move on and find love in the future
2nd Story: The last commenter needs to never give advice again 😅 OP was emotionally abusive to his wife over things that the men in his family were all saying to him and ultimately weren't true. I get that he was manipulated, but that doesn't give him an excuse to treat his ex the way he did, and she is making a mature and intelligent decision not to take a second chance on someone that likely left her with a lot of trauma.
In the end, it sounds like she did forgive him, but forgiveness doesn't always mean reconciliation. In truth, she handled it way less petty than some of us would have, and deserves her flowers for handling it with as much grace as she did (though I wouldn't have begrudged her if she had been petty instead because what a prick). It also sounds like she tried to warn him about his family before by the wisdom she offered him in the end, but he never listened until it was too late for them. Frankly, he needs to listen to more women in his life, not just the men: if you're only listening to advice from one side, you're missing half of the conversation.
Dad and bros would find out what it’s like to go thru life without functioning legs , the inability to eat solid food , and frequent catheter changes
Somebody needs to try and tell me how "One thing led to another". Like the guy was happy, the Mom wasn't acting weird and they were having Dinner like they have done for years. WTF was the thing that led to fucking your Future In-Law?
Story 2: OP is stupid
#1 STORY WHAT THE ALMIGHTY EEEEEWWWWWWWWW!!??!!🤢😡
And here I thought this fucked up bs only happened in hentai
First story, Op's mother is just so disgusting, sleeping with your daughter's fiance who is 22 while you are 42. Thats just gross. 🤢
Story #1:
*What in the Hot Crispy Kentucky Fried F--K 😳😱!!??!?*
story 1 in time they will suffer the consequences because if they cheat with you they will cheat on you and i dont see their relationship of cheaters lasting. Story 2 This doormat now he is sorry for what he put his wife through for being a moron and not even proving what they were saying was the truth, glad she didint take him back
3rd girl needs therapy
No she needs the catharsis of …. Her parents
@@vlkafenryka788 and therapy
I'm sure she does, that was the first time i got so shocked by an OP on reddit.
Story 1 you just walk away you don't necessarily have to keep this toxicity in your life.
Story 2 y'all need therapy seriously and you're not needed to stay in this circle of toxins
S3 get therapy and try to find happiness you mostly need healthy healing to move forward
There isn't enough wtf in this galaxy for story one
Dude wtf is the first story 💀💀💀💀💀💀
I heard the first sentence and thought the same thing, I had to replay it twice
Why does Op believe that her parents abuse cause her brother to sa her? Was he saed?
I believe that nothing excuse his abuse, that was on him.
Because he was a child too from what it sounds like most people consider COCSA (child in child SA) as a victim on victim vi0lence situation rather than an ab*ser on victim vi0lence situation due to the fact most children don't SA others for no reason and they're usually suffering from it too
1st story title was worded wrong, I thought it meant mil knew the whole time, 2nd story the op was just stupid and deserved to be left, 3rd story the mom just let the brother touch the op? Brother needed to commit the self deletion
It seems like he did.
I think the parents egged him on to abuse his sister. Abusive narcissistic types do relish into seeing their kids abusing one another.
It seems he did do that. I have a feeling the parents egged him on to abuse his sister. His self harm seems to be a call for help, that the parents redirected towards his sister.
Abusive parents relish into using their kids to abuse their other ones.
"Easy manipulated"
yeh U got right sad
your story is great
Story 2
You NEVER talk to friends and family about your issues!!!!!
EVER!
you know who i talked to about my issues? Counselors, therapists
There was 1 or 2 other people who weren't officially my therapist but they were definitely certified.
My parents NEVER knew what was wrong in my marriage.
Neither did his
Nor my friends
Because THIS can be the result
The outright stupidity
Unless abuse I'd agree
There was an update 5 days ago:
Update 19.08 - I'm moving!!
Hi everyone! so I'm finally here with an update and a good one at that.
IM MOVING TO SPAIN!!!
I got the job as an au pair near one of the biggest cities in Spain. I'm so excited. I'm flying in a few days and starting 01.09 with the family. The kids are adorable too. I will be learning Spanish too, which I always wanted to do anyways so it all feels like heaven sent.
I haven't told almost anyone about it, just a few friends I trust and of course my cousin who I live with. Also my boss.
My mother has been telling people I'm being mean to her when she wants to fix everything. She made a mistake and is trying to fix it but I'm being difficult. She is just "human". Not surprising. I'm now really coming to terms on how self-centered she is and has always been. I'm sad I lost the mom I thought I had. Feels like if she died. My new therapist (yes, I got one the last week yay) said I'm grieving.
Max has left me a bit a lone since the last call we had. I heard he is focusing on my little brother and just staying under the radar.
I have had some short phone calls with my little brother which has been bitter sweet, but he is doing okay. He of course doesn't know what's really happening but he is happy with having a "new dad". It doesn't hurt as much as it did before, but still hurts.
Thank you all for all the support
I thought the first story was bad.... the last one tho. All those people need to be in separate institutions. None of that is normal. Ever her at the end feeling bad that he's dead and missing him and thinking he was he best friend when he was her rapist as well as her brother. When she goes off the deep end, a lot of people are not going to make it.
In horrifically abusive situations, the mind will find ways to cope and adapt to survive. Love bombing isn't just a thing that happens in romantic relationships. It's an extremely common tactic to keep the victim from breaking free and make them feel guilty for telling anyone, hating their abuser, escaping, etc. That girl is going to need a fck ton of therapy to come to grips with what happened to her and be able to reconcile her mental image of the brother she loved and accept the painful truth that he was a monster. Unfortunately, SA and CSA survivors are at a high risk of being abused again by someone else. Predators are very good at zeroing in on vulnerable , damaged people, especially those who haven't fully identified the traits of a predator and what is and isn't normal.
I can't even try to understand her logic, I'm shocked, i just can't believe what i heard.
@madalice5134 I am personally well aware of what can and does happen to some people who have lived through SA and CSA. The brother didn't try to guilt her tho. The brother didn't do any of that, just the parents. The brother was enabled by the parents even tho the mother had to see it with her own eyes when she was an infant. What I said still stands, when the truth finally hits her, a lot of people will pay the price for it.
TF with all these incest cheating stories?
2nd story: op f-ed it up and now pulling tye victim card... Nice very entitled op things on Reddit...
😂