Jura ENA 8 In-Home Review
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- Опубликовано: 31 мар 2020
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The JURA ENA 8 is an award-winning super-automatic espresso machine with impressive user functionality and impeccable design. The ENA 8 Signature Line comes in Nordic White, Sunset Red, and Metropolitan Black panel options. The water reservoir, located on the left side of the machine, is hard to miss with its crystal clear design and diamond-shaped pattern, which pairs perfectly with the elegant design of the machine.
The ENA 8 features a 2.8” TFT color display with 10 built-in specialty beverages to choose from, including a cortado, latte macchiato, and even more where that came from. At the touch of a button, the machine can deliver crema-rich espresso beverages with no extra effort required on your part. The ENA 8 is truly a masterpiece of a machine and we haven’t even discussed the other details yet.
Inspired by traditional craftsmanship and modern technology, the ENA 8 blends the two worlds seamlessly, crafting beverages that taste like your local barista handmade a cappuccino just for you. But, instead of having to wait in line for seconds, the machine is ready to brew a list of beverages made from freshly ground coffee including a ristretto, espresso, espresso doppio, coffee, macchiato, latte macchiato, cappuccino, flat white, milk foam, and hot water. The most popular espresso and milk beverages that you could want are all in one machine, at the touch of a button, right in the comfort of your own kitchen or office.
Perhaps one of our favorite aspects of the machine is that the JURA ENA 8 doesn’t take up much space at all-it’s a small machine standing at 12.7” high, 10.7” wide and 17.5” deep, so you’re not taking up tons of counter space, which we love!
To add onto its greatness, the ENA 8 is equipped with JURA’s most innovative and notable features including P.E.P (Pulse Extraction Process) which pulses water through the puck to extract all of the flavors and aromas out of your coffee, the I.W.S (Intelligent Water System) which uses RFID technology to detect if the Clearyl Smart Water Filter is in the machine and is actively filtering out unwanted impurities, and the Aroma G3 grinder which ensures fast, quiet and even grinding using high-quality burrs. With the ENA 8, you’re getting all of the features that we know and love on JURA machines in addition to updated features that make this award-winning super-automatic a joy to work with.
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Such a great review. I just purchased this and was hoping to watch a video to familiarize myself. This video was perfect for that. Nice job. Thank you.
Thanks for the information! Just received ours and absolutely love it!! Can’t wait to try some of the unique drinks!
Awesome! Glad to hear you're loving it so far!
AJ
Great video. Just got the ENA 8 and it's very impressive. Love this machine.
This video was fabulous. Thanks for taking the time!!’
Thanks for watching!
AJ
Of all the reviews I've seen so far.. you're the first to show the 'milk in a glass' option. Everyone else uses the additional glasscontainer.. so It wasn't clear to me if I could use this machine with just a pack of milk directly from the fridge (my wife and I use a different kind of milk so having a milk container is a bit useless to us).
So in short: Thanks for this video.
Hey Don, You're welcome!
Thanks for this great video, I’ve just got my one Ena 8 😎
Hi g, you're welcome - enjoy your new machine!
Terrific and thorough review ... and rare in detailing the cleaning process.
(With high-end automatic machines, the cleaning ritual can be annoying and costly. "Jura's" approach seems especially straightforward.)
Thanks for the comment! Jura's cleaning process is one of the more straightforward ones.
AJ
best video I have seen explaining in details al what I needed to know before purchasing this
Thanks for the comment!
@@Wholelattelovepage I wanted to purchase it through your website but had two questions; do you get credit for that ? Because you deserve it for your objective review
And #2, will it come with full factory warranty?
We do not get credit for it - that would make being objective more difficult! It does come manufacturer 2 year limited warranty.
thanks for sharing this. it helped me on my decision :)
You're welcome! Enjoy the machine!
AJ
Thank you so much for your wonderful presentation! I am looking forward for my machine any day
Hi Diane, You are welcome and thank you for taking a moment to leave a comment - it's appreciated! I'm sure you will enjoy you new machine!
Marc
Great video! What I don't like is the manual cleaning after using milk drinks. I believe the Gaggia Accademia has the self-cleaning feature which is great.
We have the Gaggia Accademia and we do not like it at all. I am just about to order this one.. Gaggia, has been the worst investment.
I love it, thanks.
Hi Gaeton, Glad you like it!
Became a proud owner of 1 today!
Already have E8 Chrome for grandparents and parents. Everyone’s in love with those beautiful beverages, now it’s time to pamper myself!
Hi RE, A whole latte coffee love in your family!
@@Wholelattelovepage grandpa and I are fans of lungo, but we use E8 chrome, it has 16 grams of coffee max capacity to make a single tablet, ENA8 has only 10, I’ll have to reduce water by 60% in order to get the same intensive lungo and make it double.
Ohhh cool! So I can just use ground coffee from the other input for decaf and normal beans for whatever I drink regularly. Thats nice!!!
You got it! Most all super-automatic machines have a bypass doser for pre-ground coffee.
Thanks. My current Jura is 8 years old and is starting to leak. Time for a new one and this one looks like a perfect upgrade.
You're welcome. The ENA 8 would be a good choice!
AJ
@@Wholelattelovepage I hope so, just ordered it :D
Great review! Which one would you recommend for a newbie - Delonghi Dinamica Latte Crema or Jura ENA 8? Thank you 😊
Hi Divyashri, the ENA 8 fits my needs better in a small household and I prefer its interface and design. If your family drinks more than a couple cups a day, or like the convenience of the milk carafe, the Dinamica with Latte Crema may be a better choice. Here's a review video on that machine: ruclips.net/video/8qKLgQkBtxY/видео.html
AJ
Good video, have you witnessed any problems with the milktemperatur? Mine is way too cold for a latte or cappuccino.
Hi Jakob, I have not experienced this. The sweet spot for milk is around 140F. Some people prefer it hotter, but when you go higher it starts to burn and lose its sweetness. Sometimes pre-heating your cup and/or raising your coffee temp will help.
AJ
AJ - Nice overview video. I have been leaning to the E8 but now aware of ENA 8 model and like the smaller dimension. Can you confirm the coffee strengths and coffee temperatures in the ENA 8 are same as the E8 when you compare regular coffee or espresso options? Thanks
Hi Brad, temperatures should be comparable on the two machines, but dosing is a little different. The "strength" setting on the ENA8 adjusts your dose from 6g-10g, on the E8 the range is 5g-16g.
AJ
Thanks so much for this video! Super helpful. I recently ordered the ENA 8 from Whole Latte Love and it's in transit to me now. This is my first ever super-automatic espresso machine. I'm upgrading from a Keurig. While I wait for my ENA 8 to arrive, I've been reading the user manual online (found it on Jura's website). I have a question about one of the maintenance procedures. After the section called "Cleaning the milk system" that describes the process using the milk system cleaner and container, there is a section titled, "Dismantling and rinsing the dual spout". It says that "The dual spout must be dismantled and rinsed
daily if milk has been prepared..." It says to rinse the milk pipe, remove the milk system from the dual spout, take it apart, rinse the components, reassemble it and put it back in machine. Well, doesn't the milk system cleaning process already clean out the pipe and the milk system? Is it really necessary to then also manually rinse out the milk tube and dismantle the milk system and rinse it on a daily basis? It seems redundant to do both procedures daily. What do you advise? Maybe do the milk system cleaning process daily (assuming I use the milk system daily), but then do the "dismantling and rinsing" process every few days, or does it really need to be done daily also? Also, could you possibly do a video showing the "Dismantling and rinsing the dual spout" procedure? It would be most helpful. Thanks!
Hi Edith, it's always best to follow manufacturer recommendations, BUT, when I had this machine in my house I certainly didn't do both daily. I would do the milk system cleaning on days I made milk drinks, and the dismantling and rinsing maybe once a week. Also note that the machine will automatically do a quick rinse of the milk system 15 minutes after making a milk drink, so that's a good backup in case you forget.
Here's a video from JURA on cleaning the milk system: ruclips.net/video/aui9R4vShWY/видео.html
The dismantling and rinsing is really straightforward and the pictures in the manual show it pretty well. Everything just pulls apart, no tools or anything required. This process actually takes less time than the full cleaning.
AJ
Thanks for the review. I'm upgrading from a breville semi-automatic and don't mind the investment, but aesthetics are leaning me towards the ena8.
I've been going back and forth with a gaggia line. Its hard for me to understand the nuances beyond the features (You're tasting the beverages and interacting with both products) Are you confident enough with the ena8 to recommend it over a gaggia (super easy milk cleaning) and 30% less the price? Furthermore-- with this intense milk cleaning ritual, does the milk have a noticeable quality difference over a comparable gaggia machine?
Hi Craig, first question is why are you moving on from your current machine? Both the Juras and Gaggias, being super-automatic, will be very different experiences from your current one. Less control over variables and tweaking to espresso taste and milk steaming. The trade-off is convenience - less time and waste dialing in coffee. Easy, repeatable results. If that's what you're going for, totally cool and here's my opinion:
Taste of espresso will be comparable between Jura and Gaggia. Maybe a very slight edge to Jura due to their P.E.P. brewing which pulses water through the puck to bring out more flavors. Otherwise, you're paying for features, programmability, and ease of use. Juras tend to be easier to maintain since you don't need to remove and clean the brewing unit, but the cost of cleaning products can add up over time. Some models of each brand use slicker displays and more or less drink options. I tend to prefer the milk systems more on Gaggia machines, unless you're upgrading to something like the Jura Cool Control, which comes with its own price tag.
AJ
what would be the next good superauto model that had just a bit more capacity? 40oz or more? thanks
Good video. What glasses did you use they are so cool. Are they specially made for hot and cold?
Hey CA, Thanks for the comment. Used a variety of glasses - just what I had in the house. Nothing special as far as design for hot/cold.
Hi, AJ. I hope you don't mind me asking another question. Complete newbie here. What grinder setting on the ENA 8 would you recommend for an 8 oz. coffee using medium roast beans? Is the finest setting best for an espresso and espresso-based drinks? What if I regularly make both long coffees (8 oz. coffee in the morning) and espresso-based drinks (like a latte or cappuccino in the afternoon)? Is there a happy medium setting so I don't have to adjust the grinder setting back and forth every day? Maybe leave the grinder on the middle setting? I'd really appreciate your advice. Thanks!
Hi Edith, I don't mind at all. On super-autos we tend to use the finest setting for espresso drinks as long as it doesn't choke the machine (no liquid comes out), and something closer to the middle for coffees. Just note that your milage may vary based on your specific machine, beans, water quality, etc. Your suggestion of finding an in-between is pretty common for people who regularly switch between espresso and long coffees and don't want to be constantly changing grind size. If you're doing this, I'd start by leaving it 2-3 clicks away from the finest, and see how things taste.
AJ
@@Wholelattelovepage Hi, AJ! Oh, thank you so much for your helpful advice! Right now, I have my ENA 8 grinder set 3 clicks away from the finest (i.e. if you number the markings from 1-7, where 1 is the coarsest, and 7 is the finest, my grinder is set at a 5). I haven't tried any espresso drinks yet, as I'm still trying to get my morning long coffee the way I like it. Yesterday, I tried it with a strength of 4 full beans. It wasn't quite as strong as I like it, so today I bumped it up to 4.5 beans. Better, but will try it at full strength (5 beans) tomorrow. It could also be the blend I'm trying out at the moment. It's pretty mellow. I assume if the taste still isn't bold enough at full strength that the next step would be to try to set the grinder one click finer. Correct? Then I can scale back the strength again and work my way up if needed. Once I get the coffee sorted out, I'll try making some espresso milk drinks to see how they taste. At least that's my plan. I'll figure it out eventually. So different from my no-brainer Keurig, so I have lots to learn. LOL! Thanks again!
Hi. Nice video 👍
In all the reviews I have seen on coffe machines, none mention the taste of the regular coffe.
I just whant a great cup of coffe! 😄 Quick! Will I get that?
Thank you so much.
Hey Ragnar, yes! It's easy for us to overlook the simplest things with a machine this advanced, but you can absolutely get a great cup of fresh coffee at the touch of a button.
AJ
Thanks for the video. I've had two Ena 8's (old model and new model), and I cannot seem to get the Latte Macchiato to separate like it does for you. I end up with a flat white cappuccino instead. I've tried using whole milk, reduced fat milk, cold and colder. I've adjusted my settings to be like yours, 14 seconds of milk, 20 seconds of separation. I've adjusted the espresso temperature between Hot and Normal. No Joy! What am I missing?
Hi Jay, I've found that the size and shape of the cup helps a lot for the layering. For me, taller, skinnier glasses work better than short and wide ones.
AJ
same here. only 2 layers instead of 3. disappointed a little bit.
Hi, thanks for the review, it's really very informative! Question - does the machine indicate of the water tank is getting empty?
Hi m, You are welcome and thanks for the question. Yes it does alert to refill in the display. Also with location of tank it's easy to visually see how much water is left.
Do you get hot milk from the Frother? I get lukewarm. I’ve returned the machine to Jura twice as I was told my milk should be 140-180F. Mine comes out at 74-80. If this is the way it is, so be it, but if it’s supposed to be hotter, I’m going to return it again. Can you help?
Hi Ann, I do get milk at a proper temp of ~140F. 74-80F is very low. One thing you might check is that the frothing components are clean. With some use and not cleaning properly milk residues can accumulate in components and reduce heating. Do you see any steam when milk is frothing? if so that's an indication the machine is working properly. You could check that by removing the pickup tube from milk source and see if you get steam out of the froth dispensing nozzle. If you see steam with that check then I would make sure components are clean and properly installed. Hope that helps.
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Do you have the put the solution in with the water during the daily rinse or could you just do straight water and add the solution maybe once per week?
Jura recommends using the cleaning solution daily when preparing milk drinks and that's probably the best for cleanliness and machine longevity. That said, I've personally done what you're describing when I'm in a rush or feeling lazy, and haven't noticed ill effects.
AJ
Amazing video, thank you for posting it. May I ask where is this machine made?
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Hi AAK, Thanks for the comment. The ENA 8 is manufactured in Portugal.
Whole Latte Love Thanks 🙏🏻
This is the unit I am looking at for my wife and myself, should be able to provide enough options if we have guests for dinner. However the Philips 3200 Latte Go is interesting as well for alot less. What else could we consider in between?
Thanks for the detailed review! My only concern is that the brew group isn't removable and I have seen on RUclips how dirty it gets even with regular cleaning of other components and descaling. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks!
Hi Ynvonne, I've never actually been inside one of these machines after longterm use, so I can only go off the manufacturer's claims and experiences. With routine cleaning based on their recommendations, you shouldn't have any issue with cleanliness inside the brew group. We regularly get reports from customers who have used their machines for 10,000+ brew cycles and with proper maintenance have had no issues.
AJ
oh that is unfortunate, i just reviewed the proces to remove the brew group on ifixit and it is definitely not a user friendly process and requires special tools; at least it is possible though if there were ever a breakage outside of warraty or if you wanted to do a deep clean, it's possible, just not easy.
Does the milk foam button just do the foam? I also want to make tea lattes and wondering if that would work for like a London fog latte?
Hi EJ, Thanks for the question. The ENA 8 does a very finely frothed milk. I've never had London fog latte but I looked it up and it seems they commonly use finely frothed latte style milk. on standing, the froth from the machine will settle a bit so you'll get more of a steamed milk (little to no bubbles) in lower section of glass and a cap of finely frothed foam on top.
I have a Gaggia Cadorna Prestige coming tomorrow, but now I feel like this machine might be better. The design is not a priority for me though Juras are clearly winners there. I got the Cadorna because of one-touch Americanos and true flat whites. The Ena does a one shot flat white and two-touch Americano. But that milk looks a lot better than the carafe milk and the pausing for separation is slick. Did I make a mistake?
Hey Rollingstone, I don't think you made a mistake. I've actually had both ENA 8 and Gaggia Cadorna in my kitchen at different times this year. Both have their strengths as you mentioned. If you drink a lot of Americanos like I do, the ability to press one button and walk away is great. The programmable interval is nice for making pretty latte macchiatos, but if you're mostly doing flat whites it's a nonissue. I agree that the milk looks nicer coming out of the Jura, but I think you're going to be very happy with your Gaggia!
AJ
Hello, great review, thanks! Can u tell me please what is milk foam temperature when its get to the cup?
Hi Piotr, I don't know the exact milk temp but I found it comparable to most other super-automatic machines. If you want hotter milk drinks, we recommend pre-warming your cups and/or using the hottest setting for your brew water.
AJ
👏👏👍👌👏👏👏👏 I love it, .... thanks
Hi Verell, thank you!
AJ
I am almost near to buy ENA8 or Delonghi dynamica plus and the only reason that I can't easily decide, is because I am trying to find out ,which one off the 2 makes better and stronger coffee. can you please help?
Hi K, thanks for the question. IMO the ENA 8 makes a stronger coffee. It has some of the highest single cycle coffee dosing of any manufacturer and it's PEP brewing used for espresso beverages produces a deeper more aromatic extraction. If you like it really strong then I would brew 2 smaller beverages or maybe one of my favorites the Red Eye which is a long coffee with a shot of espresso over the top.
Marc
I have noticed that sometimes i get a sort of matallic taste in my espresso shots. I use the water filter and change that when im supposed to, descale every so often, should i maybe try descaling tablets again, its been a few months since i last descaled
Hi a, Cleaning/descaling may help. Any chance it's the coffee you're using? Sometimes people describe very bright acidic coffees - typically very fresh lighter roasts as having a metallic flavor taint.
Hey . Does the power cable come out from the back of the machine?
The machine is 44.5cm deep, my counter top is 45cm. If there's a big chunk of cable protruding out on the backside of the machine I'm out of luck.
Hi SG, The power cable does come out of the back. It is flexible and does not have a bulky connector plugging into the back. You'll need about 1.5cm of clearance for the flexible cable. The feet of the machine do not extend to the front edge of the drip tray so if you're okay with a 1 cm or so of drip tray overhanging the front edge of your counter you may be in luck!
Thank you! What about new Jura E8 (EB/SB) 15355 ? Are you going to review the machine?
Hi DM, You are welcome. I have reviewed the E8 here: ruclips.net/video/uojPuqkQBfA/видео.html and have this livestream comparing the E8 and ENA 8: ruclips.net/video/b1WN8W-OKY4/видео.html
I looked up the model number you provided and did not find an E8 with that model number available in the US. Perhaps it's available in other countries or the model number is a cosmetic change or other non-functional revision.
Marc
I am deciding between Ena8 and Gaggia Babila, what are the main differences?
Hi YY, Thanks for the question. Here's a link to a side by side spec comparison of the ENA 8 and Babila with current pricing and access to more video on each machine through the product listing: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/compare?products=NDQ5MDMwNjU4NDYzMCwxNTQ1OTcyODQyNTU1
I've used both machines extensively so I'll this:
Babila:
Milk carafe with auto steam clean so carafe can go straight back to fridge for later use
Manual steam wand - go to latte art quality frothing
Flow control on spouts restrict for deeper espresso extraction - let it flow for longer coffees
Older display style
More precise control of grind size
Regular descaling required - extended time span with filter use
Can make 2 coffee drinks at same time. Does a second grind cycle automatically to maintain beverage strenght
ENA 8
More contemporary design - color display
Smaller form factor
Pick up tube for milk. A little less convenient than carafe
More milk drink options
No descaling required if filter used as directed
Premium version with full aluminum case available: www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-ena-8-espresso-machine-aluminum
Hope that helps!
Marc
How can you empty the beans receptacle if you wanted to swap your regular beans for decaf ones?
Hi s, Thanks for the question. To use whole bean decaf you'd have to manually empty the bean hopper and grind out any remaining beans. Most people use the pre-ground coffee bypass doser on top of the machine if they want to make a decaf.
Marc
Is the tray where the cup sits still plastic? I was disappointed when the chrome finish on mine started to wear from rough bottom cups.
Hi Sandi, Thanks for the question. Yes the drip tray is still plastic chrome finish. Best not to use rough bottom ceramic cups to maintain finish.
It s a product of switzerland, the brand of JURA.
What a beautiful machine. Can you do 2 cups of espresso at 1 time?
Hi Elena, no easy way to do two cups at once on the ENA 8. You could brew a doppio which would grind, tamp, and brew twice during the process, but you'd have to swap glasses in between.
AJ
Hey, nice video! I got this machine recently. When I clean the milk system, there is so much steam and it makes screen foggy, is this normal?
Yes, nothing to worry about. You can simply wipe the screen after or just wait for it to evaporate.
AJ
With the smaller puck size, is there a difference in the quality of the drinks?
Hi g, the 10g max dose per grind cycle is about what you'll get from most automatic machines regardless of manufacturer. It's in the upper dose range of singles made on semi-automatic (portafilter) machines. For reference, a traditional Italian single dose is 7g.
Marc
How good are the espresso shots from these? Do you "dial" this thing in?
Hi Jason, They are very good. Compared to semi-automatic machines you do give up some potential quality for the convenience and consistency of these machines. Good shots start with then beans of course but in my experience these machines produce a better shot than what you'll get from mass market coffee shops but not as good as what you'd get at a specialty cafe made with care by a barista with real skills. You do have control of grind size and coffee dose but do not dial in grind size or time/weigh extractions like you would on semi-autos.
Hi, can you please tell me the milk temperature coming out of the spout. Thank you in advance.
Hi T3RM, I'm not sure of the exact temperature but I will say it's on par with other superautomatic machines I've used. If you want it hotter, there are a couple tricks you can do such as pre-warming your cups or raising your brewing temperature setting.
AJ
Will a 20 oz cup (such as a 20 oz stainless steel to go cup) fit under the spout for this?
Depends on the shape of your cup, but a 20oz probably wouldn't fit. Max cup height is 5.4"
AJ
Hello, i have the exact model and i'm having trouble with the water tank- it doesn't come out, seems like it's stuck down there, any suggestions ? Thanks !
Hey Ruxi, I haven't encountered that, mine comes off pretty easily. It sounds like something may be wrong. I'd reach out to who you purchased it from - if that's us, you can submit a support ticket at support.wholelattelove.com/hc/en-us
or contact Jura directly at us.jura.com/en/customer-care/hotline-and-customer-service
Hope this helps!
AJ
How to make those orange, blue lights over the glass on? Are there ENA 8 versions w/o these feature?
Hi x, I think all the ENA 8's have the lights. But maybe a model version I'm unaware of. If you look under the spout do you see the LED?
@@Wholelattelovepage I guess it could be LED but I don't recall it was ever like this. Maybe energy saving mode is the reason?
Wow this is awesome. I might not want to buy the Nespresso vertuoplus anymore! This looks way better. Does it take a lot of counter space?
Hi Catherine, Do yourself a favor and get a machine like this that works with whole beans ground fresh. Nespresso coffee is very expensive. The ENA 8 is a very slender machine. More info and complete dimension here: www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-ena-8-espresso-machine-in-black
Im buying this machine. Do have any recommendations for organic beans ?
Hi AA, Just did a review tasting of 6 varieties of Barrie House whole bean coffees. All are USDA Organic, Fair Trade and 100% Arabica. In the range are 2 single origins, espresso blends and 2 darker roasts. All work well in super-auto machines like the Jura ENA 8. Check out our video tasting/review here: ruclips.net/video/zQoHGQRLOqk/видео.html
Marc
We have two users in the house, do we have to use the same drinks, or can you have your profiles or save your own drinks.
Hi MsK, The ENA 8 does not have profiles for multiple users. You can customize drink parameters but only possible to save 1 version of each. For machine with multiple profiles you might take a look at the Gaggia Cadorna Prestige: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-cadorna-prestige
Does this machine let you adjust the amount of froth for the milk or is it a set amount?
Hi Jolene, you cannot adjust the amount of froth for the milk on this machine.
AJ
You can choose how much milk froth by adding more seconds to your drink.
Hi AJ, I just got ENA8 today...can I use any kind of milk? like almond milk, oat Milk, coconut milk?
Hi Kathy, that shouldn't be an issue. Here's a video where I compared all kinds of plant-based milks on both super-automatic and semi-automatic machines: ruclips.net/video/jO9l7oENq1Q/видео.html
AJ
does this do well with light roasts? if not then this won't be good for me.
Hi, The ENA 8 can use light roasts without issue. I've put a couple bags of this Ethiopian SO through the machine and enjoyed the results: www.wholelattelove.com/products/whole-latte-love-ethiopia-g1-limmu-single-origin-whole-bean-coffee
I ran the clean cycle and dropped the cleaning tablet down the bypass chute, and then when I emptied the drip tray after the 20 minutes, I noticed that the cleaning tablet was in the back inside the machine still in full tact and I had to remove the tablet from the machine and it did rinse for 20 minutes but I thought the tablet is supposed to dissolve, any fixes?
Hi Adam, any chance you added the tablet before the machine asked you to do so? When doing a cleaning cycle I believe the machine cycles the brew unit. If tablet added too soon the cycle would eject the tablet into the used coffee drawer prior to the main cleaning cycle.
@@Wholelattelovepage that must have been the problem so I should put the tablet in when the machine says, so I'm assuming I should retry again since it probably didn't get the machine clean yesterday
@@awolejko14 Yes, I would retry and wait for message to add tablet.
Hi - How would you compare the Gaggia 2 higher end models vs. the ENA 8.
Stylistically, I definitely prefer the ENA 8 for the high-quality screen, form factor, and appearance.
Functionally, I prefer the Babila/Accadamia for the flow control, larger capacities, and carafe/manual steam wand options.
AJ
I just ordered this machine from your company today.
I've been watching a lot of videos but no one really covers the grind setting.
Can I just set this to the fine setting and leave it?
I'm most likely going to mostly be doing espresso's.
That's generally what we do - start at the finest setting, then work coarser if the machine is choking or slowly dripping out espresso. I'm hoping to get a little more scientific with this recommendation in a future video.
AJ
@@Wholelattelovepage thank you! I will give that a go!
Hello, Is there a way to do an iced drink with this machine?
Hi Richelle, there's no built-in iced coffee feature on the ENA 8, however I've gotten good results brewing a full-strength espresso over ice cubes and adding cold milk/cream. If you're looking for a dedicated iced drink feature, check out the Delonghi Dinamica with LatteCrema: www.wholelattelove.com/products/delonghi-dinamica-with-lattecrema-espresso-machine
AJ
My ENA 8 still seems to have a chemical taste to it. I'm using crema wave espresso. I did a cleaning cycle and descaling cycle, not sure what to try next
Hi a, Do you have a filter in the machine or filter water before use? Chemical taints are most often from source water chlorination. From time to time I have heard people mistake the brightness of a very fresh from roast coffee as a chemical taste.
@@Wholelattelovepage yes I always use the jura filter, I mostly use medium roast beans
I already have filtered water, can I remove the water filter that comes with the machine?
Hi Connie, that depends on the quality of your water and what your filter is removing. For example, a reverse osmosis filters remove too much of the mineral content leaving you with bad tasting espresso and potential to leach materials from inside your machine and cause corrosion. More info on that in this video: ruclips.net/video/1v9WSIXtpos/видео.html
AJ
can anyone tell me if the milk is a good temperature not to cold when making a latte or cappuccino. I do t want to spend this much money and find it’s Luke warm at best
Hi Rhys, Milk temps from machines which automatically froth run 125 - 140F/52 - 60C. That's in milks sweet zone and the temps well trained baristas use for best flavor. Final temps depend on starting milk temp. If you prefer extra hot milk you might consider a machine with manual frothing which gives you complete control of final milk temperature. The Gaggia Accademia has manual frothing and an auto-frothing carafe. Also has a heated cup warmer. In our tests the Accademia carafe dispensed frothed milk at 136F/58C from milk starting at 45F/7C. If interested, you can learn more about the Accademia in this video: ruclips.net/video/jZWS38_Jge4/видео.html
Jura is from Switzerland and the J in Jura is pronounced like a Y. Phonetically it’s Yoora. ( Not being mean saying this, by the way).
Hi LM H, Thanks for the comment. You are 100% correct. Here in the US Jura corporate goes with pronunciation as heard in the video.
Can you make a comparison between ENA 8 and E8 which is better for home use
Hi Mohammed, before the ENA 8 I had an E8 at home, so I can certainly compare. In my opinion, the ENA 8 wins in looks and style over the E8. I like being able to customize all parameters of drinks with a press-and-hold (vs. having to go into the menu in the E8). I also prefer the grouping of espresso/milk/hot water spouts on the ENA 8 because I never have to move my cup when preparing any drinks. The ENA 8 is also slightly smaller, which I prefer since I'm limited on counter space.
The E8 wins in capacity - not only a larger water tank, bean hopper, and dreg drawer, but the dual spouts give you the option for two espresso drinks at once (by double-pressing espresso/ristretto/coffee). If you're making a high volume of drinks at home, the E8 may be the best choice. I also like that the E8 gives you two options for milk foam, instead of just the one on the ENA 8.
Overall, they both have their advantages and which is "better" depends largely on your living and drinking circumstances.
AJ
The new ENA 8 touch should be the better option for home use
I have the ENa 8 at home..Its a great machine if u make 4-5 cups in a day..Also which type of milk would produce the best froth?
Hi MG, Thanks for the comment sharing your experience! IMO whole fat milk makes for the best froth and rich creamy flavor. One can use lower fat milks if desired and many non-diary milk alternatives work as well.
I’ve just ordered this machine, but worried as I like a thick froth milk that you get from a flat white or latte. I’m thinking I should return it and order one of brevilles barista machines....
Does anyone know how long the machine needs to brew a regular coffee? We feel like it takes longer and longer. Latest result was 1 minute 45 seconds. Is this normal? Thanks in advance to anyone who can give us a comparable time.
Hi t, I do a couple long coffees on this machine daily at ~8oz/240ml and 1:45 is excessive. Don't have machine in front of me at the moment but guessing mine finish in less than 1 minute.
@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you! Now my suspicion feels more realistic that there is something going wrong.
Does anyone know why my milk based drinks seem to taste like to much milk and not really tasting strong coffee. I'm using whole milk with medium roast espresso beans
Hi Adam, Sounds like you would prefer a more coffee forward flavor. Just program the drink for more coffee or less milk.
@@Wholelattelovepage thankyou I shall try that out
@@Wholelattelovepage what blend of medium roast espresso would you recommend if I want a stronger cup of long coffee, I can't seem to get the strength that I'm looking for
@@awolejko14 I'm assuming you have strength set to highest setting on the machine. If not, set to that. Keep in mind the max coffee dose at highest strength setting is 10g which is a light dose for larger long coffees. For stronger long coffee you may want to brew 2 smaller coffees into the same cup. Also take a look at your grind setting. a finer grind setting will give deeper/stronger flavor. Another option is to make an Americano starting with an espresso doppio on the machine. The doppio automatically grinds twice so coffee dose for a doppio maxes out at 20g. From there, add hot water from the machine to taste. Americanos generally have deeper and more pure flavor than same beans made as a long coffee. "Strong" medium roast beans can mean different things to different people. Strong like more caffeine? Then an Italian blend with some Robusta beans in the mix like most Lavazza coffees. Some people associate strong flavor with the roast of the bean. Tasting the roast comes only with a darker roast profile. For others, stronger means I like the flavor of this bean but want it more intense. For that, you need less water through a given amount of ground coffee.
Aside from the Lavazaa I mentioned this Carraro Globo Rosso is a blend I'm familiar with and one I'd call bold and strong with an extra caffeine kick. It's a bit darker than most medium roast: www.wholelattelove.com/products/carraro-globo-rosso If you go to the link there's a video in which I taste it along with 4 other Carraro coffees. Hope that helps!
I just bought it yesterday and today it dumped dry ground coffee into the tray. Anyone knows what is the problem? I used ground coffee and not beans. It was the second coffee we tried to make this morning. It just made one coffee
Hi SS-D, Dumping ground coffee without brewing usually means you put in too much. Make sure you're sticking with the recommended amount of pre-ground coffee.
@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you for your reply. I put just one spoon (its own ground coffee spoon). It did not work so I tried again with a new coffee from the menu and it showed the same error (not enough coffee) so I added another spoon of coffee and same problem. Will give it another try today. Hope we do not need to return it.
Has anyone tried using homemade almond or oat milk? Do they clog the line?
Not this particular machine, but I have used a variety of plant-based milks in other super-automatic machines as seen in this video: ruclips.net/video/jO9l7oENq1Q/видео.html
AJ
Make lungo this machine?
Hi Leo, The Ena 8 had a preset for "coffee" but not "lungo." You could program the volume for the coffee drink to be lower and essentially replicate a traditional lungo.
AJ
who is the ENA8 made for? why choose this machine over a Z line machine?
I see the ENA 8 as a machine for someone who wants to luxury and quality of JURA, but lives in a smaller space, maybe in a household of one or two coffee drinkers. The Z line has larger capacities all around, more drink options, more versatility (multiple types of milk foam, parallel preparation on the Z8, etc). The Z line will also come with a higher price tag, so there's certainly a trade-off for those extra features. Here's a more in-depth review of the Z8: ruclips.net/video/f189JUynYSw/видео.html
AJ
I wish you had gone through the cleaning process. Once a day sounds expensive.
Hi Jay, the full cleaning process can be seen in our video with Gabby here: ruclips.net/video/V5wYmuQhwAk/видео.html
AJ
Jay G. I have a S8 and the cleaning is fairly easy, as i mainly drink espresso. Around once per month it will do a full clean, requiring a cleaning tablet. You can get these cheap enough off amazon. For milk drinks, I just rinse out the hose under the tap when done, and run a hot water cycle through for say 30 secs to flush out the nozzle. No issues as yet. And I might add, a far better quality coffee is to be had when compared to pod machines, and cheaper cups of coffee as you are using your own beans. I am getting my beans at the moment from Aldi, of all places!, and these are $14 aud per kg ($4 usd per pound approx), which lasts me about a month. They are good quality beans, they roast them daily in Melbourne, which is often viewed as the coffee capital of Australia. For an equivalent bean from a fancy roaster cafe named after a bicycle part Aussies pay around $50 aud per kg ($14 usd per pound), and generally the price hike is not worth it.
Adding to ozzycarnuts comment; I have the WE8 (these models are all very similar) and we live on cappuccinos with around 6-10 per day being made and cleaning it is a simple process and not at all expensive. I actually just run fresh water through the milk system as if I was frothing milk using the 2 compartment cup that comes with it after each use and it only requires a (special Jura milk cleaning liquid, single capful) clean around once a month. overall, a very cheap and easy machine to run and the coffee is really good. If I had to put a dollar value to the cost of cleaning, using the Jura cleaning products it might be $3-$4 per month or around $50 per year..if that. 18 months in and going strong, would be hard to live without it.
This one vs miele cm5310 vs gaggia babila? Help me pls. 🙏 I was looking also at some mellitas but I guess the three above are superior to this? I only need to make 2/3 espressos a day and around 2 capuccinos/lattes.
Hey Adam, we don't carry Miele and I've never used the cm5310. Both the ENA 8 and Babila are great machines. ENA 8 wins for style and user interface. Much nicer display and a very polished look for the machine. Babila wins for capacities (hopper/reservior/dreg drawer) and versatility (flow control, option for manual milk steaming). I also like the Babila's carafe and auto-rinse function. All depends on which features are more important to you, but there's no wrong answer between those two.
AJ
@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you so much, that really helped :)
I want the Z10 in the worst way!
I don't blame you, the Z10 is an incredible machine. Here's a video we filmed about it while visiting JURA earlier this year: ruclips.net/video/4jf9oeyGeoE/видео.html
AJ
Jura machines looks so nice but the tube connection to a glass of milk makes the machine looks incomplete
Hey el c, There are other milk containers avavilable for Jura machines like this: www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-glass-milk-container
Even a countertop refrogerated unit: www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-cool-control-0-6-l-black-1
Marc
this one or jura e8 ?
Hi Ruben,
In my opinion, the ENA 8 wins in looks and style over the E8. I like being able to customize all parameters of drinks with a press-and-hold (vs. having to go into the menu in the E8). I also prefer the grouping of espresso/milk/hot water spouts on the ENA 8 because I never have to move my cup when preparing any drinks. The ENA 8 is also slightly smaller, which I prefer since I'm limited on counter space.
The E8 wins in capacity - not only a larger water tank, bean hopper, and dreg drawer, but the dual spouts give you the option for two espresso drinks at once (by double-pressing espresso/ristretto/coffee). If you're making a high volume of drinks at home, the E8 may be the best choice. I also like that the E8 gives you two options for milk foam, instead of just the one on the ENA 8.
Overall, they both have their advantages and which is "better" depends largely on your living and drinking circumstances.
AJ
@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you so much for taking the time to give such a specific response ! It will definitely gonna help take a decision !
does it do a mocha
Hi Kishore, for a mocha I would add your powder or syrup to the cup first before brewing your drink into it.
AJ
My only complaint is the plastic tray
Some of the higher-end JURA machines like the Z8 and GIGA 6 have glass drip trays.
AJ
3000.00 coffee machine isn’t glass tray/stainless steel worthy
Just brought this machine and with all the coffee settings set on high the cappacino and hot chocolates are way too cold and undrinkable. There is no settings to increase the milk foam. I run my finger through the milk form as it comes out and still very cold. The the price of this machine to make cold milk foam and cold cappacinos is crap. Jura are saying to in increase the coffee strength for a hotter cappacino but not everyone wants a stronger capacino and what is the point of milk foam if it comes out cold. Going back to get a refund
Hi Altina, I cannot be certain but sounds like there might be a problem with your machine or you're expecting the milk to be hotter than what these types of machines are designed to produce. A well trained barista froths milk to a finished temp of about 140F/60C as that is the temp where milk gains the most apparent sweetness due to heating. If your milk is "very cold" coming out something is not right. Dirty milk frothing components affects performance.
@@Wholelattelovepage only made around 6 coffees with this new machine and has already run a cleaning milk cycle so the machine is definitely does not need cleaning
I just had my new Elna 8 taken to Jura to look at. Was something definately wrong with the machine which has been fixed now. I have the coffee on the high setting and the cappacinos are now nice and hot.
miért hintáztatja a kamerát, uram!
translation: why are you swinging the camera sir!
Szeret táncolni - It likes to dance😁
@@Wholelattelovepage oh, ok!😂😂😂😂
Inches?? Ounces?? Seriously?
Lol, unfortunately, that’s what we’re stuck with in US. In most videos we use metric or both. Believe me we’d hear it from the other side here. No win situation 😀
US is still stuck in the 60s timewarp, they're a stubborn bunch they don't want to change
Canadian, eh?🤦♂️😂
U r cute. Still living with another person or single already? 😏😎
This would be awesome if it had a sensor activation that greet you and ask you how you like your drink what type.Also it hookup to Siri or goggle.okay quite while running and it display drink self cleaning. 🙋🏽 Futuristic design.11/2021
That would be cool!