It needs better connection but not awful mechanically atleast, if they get the fluid connection like elden has the combat would be the best/most balanced possibly, all they need is some performance fixes which they've been doing
@@christopherdamon6599 I have full pvp set dummy By worst experience, I mean the connection and disconnect issues, the fact that I can just use 1 spell to delete people, the level loss glitch issue (because at some point I lost 80 levels after an invasion). This was by far the worst pvp of any souls like.
My first invasion sadly ended with me getting sniped by a radiant Pilgrim right after I tossed the invader off a (damaging but nonlethal) drop with the umbral lamp's soul-flay. Love the moveset variety on weapons. Lights, heavies, swapping 1h-2h, kicks, the L1 + R2 attacks, etc. I just feel like we're missing an indicator for our own posture. Also I feel it's kinda weird that Pieta's sword is not a Long Sword? Does make me want to swap to a Radiance build instead of the Str + Radiance I was planning.
Pietas sword is the meta weapon in the game. It does rediculous damage and procs smite nearly instantly with each hit. And the radiance spells are all ridiculously hard hitting in pvp and pve
@@Fleebuss wait and buy. The devs are patching the game super fast. They just dropped another patch like an hour ago so when you do get it, it will be solid at the rate things are going
That fight at 7 mins was freaking awesome even though you lost. Most souls streamers if I remember right don't showcase their defeats. So that makes you awesome. Also how many invaders are allowed? And is it like elden ring where you can only invade active coop sessions?
It's not peer to peer like in Souls, but everything is dependent on the host. Only what the host sees matters, so if he's got a bad connection, it's gonna suck (for the invader)
@@Oroboro yea that’s what I mean and it’s kinda annoying to watch you get stunned because you can’t tell so you can play a bit more defensive once it’s low. I’m new and just trying to get my buddy to join co-op is a nightmare
The game is really fun playing with another person or by yourself is great and I love that aspect of the game. PvP is a joke though if you’re not dealing with terrible lag then it’s an OP host that one shots you
It's a lot of fun, the ideas of the game are very intriguing. Has some flaws obviously, but I feel like the devs actually care and wanna work with the community for future updates.
I watched your vids before getting AC6 and I ended up doing all 3 endings and getting 100%. I also got pretty good in the PVP. Is this game worth the full price? Whats its length like? Im always nervous buying Souls-like games from devs that arent Fromsoft. I think the only one i enjoyed was Nioh
4:00 is uberhaxornova just came from watching his vod to see if he made it in the video. poor guy was trying to get his vigor back when it popped up and I couldn't stop laughing because I knew what was coming for anyone interested in seeing the other perspective it happens at 05:48:52 on his first vod on twitch
I like the visuals and the attacks. Pretty cool, pretty cool.. i don't know about the invasion though. Maybe it's because it's not that old yet and there things to optimise. But honestly, pretty neat.
I’ve played PVP pretty heavily over the last week to get the Adyr Set. My takeaway from about 200 invasions with my Lvl 35 Umbral build: - Host almost always gets priority hits due to invasions being host-based instead of peer-to-peer. - Radiance is OP. If you come across someone with Pieta’s sword, put on something with radiance protection and keep your distance. - Poison is very effective, especially at low levels where they don’t have much health. - Charred fingers are often not worth the risk of investment. Only use them when you’re certain you’re going to win. Sometimes the payout doesn’t even happen, which I hope they fix. - PVP is overall not as bad as people say it is, but it still needs a lot of work.
I got invaded one time and had a random helper appear. They both died to the invaders attack which killed them both. Invaded another time and did *_no_* damage to the invader. Only 52 damage total at a time with a Grand Axe. Not to mention, the game is just... it's not worth invading right now. Best I can say
I think so but it’s not evident in the game. I equipped a poise ring but I don’t think it made a lick of difference. One smack with the longsword and I’m cut out of my animations. With “increased poise”
There is a shared shrine of sorts you can donate you're hands to. It's a covenant system. There appears to be stuff you can buy with the hands too, but I don't know what those are yet.
Invasions are the only thing they could have done better than Fromsoft but at this point I wish they didn’t implement it and put resources into something else.
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The game is solid, just as the other guy said, dont play online just yet.
be careful bro new bug just dropped that permanently randomizes your stats when hosts dc from you. bricked my first playthrough charater a couple of hours ago just cause i wanted to do a few invasions. now hes a lvl 75 with less stats then a lvl 45
ive yet to have one where i dont de sync or disconnect/face huge amounts of lag. every other games multiplayer is working fine. switched from this to elden ring and everything worked on elden ring. they need to fix the net code
I'm running dual of those holy swords with the holy posture damage talisman, and posture damage runes and they're op. 68 is max scaling level it seems. Mana continues going up
These invasions actually look like one of the best soul-like elements in this game. The umbral system gives the host that classic host advantage but with some flavor, and as a host you really don't want to have to go into that advantage HP since it means you'll be in umbral until you get your next chance to rest (though iirc LotF gives the ability to plop down a psuedo-bonefire to un-umbral, but it's still a cost I think?) Anyway, this is making me a lot more interested in trying this game than your PvE vods did tbh.
@@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshinyou're meant to play it on ps5, barely have issues on mine, most come from PC since it's designed for SSD and rlly should prob be exclusive at launch so people will stop complaining
Looks way more scuffed and unsatisfying than I thought it would. Guess Fromsoft really are the only ones who do animation and technical combat mechanics the way I like..
Brandon, imo, Elden Ring would be the perfect game if it had DS2 covenants and invasions. Do you agree? And consecutive wins in the ER arena will give you a glowy effect just like in DS2.
the peer to peer is busted for coop and pvp single player is dependent on how well the optimization works on your platform pc/console setup @@sethrussell7771
I just had my first PvP invasion a bit ago. Dude just stood there and healed when I ran out of stamina. I eventually killed him when he ran out of healing. Then I popped the Xbox achievement and immediately went offline.
I can't do invasions had to go offline to keep from being invaded usually I love pvp but it's so laggy with this game I can dodge or parry I just get r1 spammed to death
It's desyncing issues, there basically is no animation you just see the attack and get stun locked. These were better connections than I ever saw and it still looked horrible.
Well said. I’m loving every aspect of the game including PvP but that side of it could use a few tweaks to smooth out the experience. Especially for the invaders. It’s saying something that I’ve never lost to an invader in my world, but flipping the script and becoming the invader is like taking a cheese grater to the face 😂😂😂 I’ve been melee struck from bow and spell range as well as double teamed by a pair both dual wielding Pietas sword for a whopping total of 4 Pieta swords. Instant smite. Every touch earns a lightning bolt straight to my dome. 😂😂😂
@@NinjaAF2099 radiance heal and there’s another aura that heals constantly but drains mana over time, that’ll let you wield any other weapon and tank every bit of smite, ring of posture will save you as well. Once they nerf pieta and blessed reflections everyone is gonna call the game trash cause their weapon was nerded and have zero clue how to build anything else
@@NinjaAF2099 their servers need a lot of work, and since it’s a peer to peer connection if their internet sucks or your on the other side of the world you’ll lag a lot
@@SamuelLua true in a way the game sets you up with a meta sword super early so everyone is inclined to radiance at the moment. I’m working towards umbral strength but trying to iron out the level caps. It’ll be a higher level build to do any real damage.
Is dudes like I was trying to be nice but you were the one who invaded the other dude in the first place under no circumstances is the person that's being invaded have to be nice to the invader 🤡. Play for real if you invade somebody and you get tea bag taunted slow claps get the point down emotes done to you it's literally all fair game because you're the one invading somebody else that was minding their own business.
Pvp right now its just stupid 😅 the host have such a huge advantage in therm of connection the host cant be hit even if my blade go right on him and he dont get stagger at all
I already know what it will be Elden ring doesn't happen with 1 game, this is like early demon souls stage, and this looks like emergency adding feature like what code vein who originally single player to have coop online What i think best for this type is since this is peer to peer connection, adding rollback like fighting game kinda nice idea
Luv how the characters sprints. Like this man is on a mission.
Character be sprinting like they left the stove on.
Invasions in this game just leave you stunlocked and rubber banded all over the place. Hope the fix it.
Still like this today. I can roll away 4x yet rubber band and get hit by an attack that shouldn’t even be within phantom range
This game is a lot of fun to watch. Pretty sure this vid convinced me to pick this game up. Great content, as always
The main pve game is such a blast, even more with a buddy. The pvp ? Worst experience ever. Not playable
It needs better connection but not awful mechanically atleast, if they get the fluid connection like elden has the combat would be the best/most balanced possibly, all they need is some performance fixes which they've been doing
Sounds like someone been gettin wrecked 😂
@@christopherdamon6599 I have full pvp set dummy
By worst experience, I mean the connection and disconnect issues, the fact that I can just use 1 spell to delete people, the level loss glitch issue (because at some point I lost 80 levels after an invasion). This was by far the worst pvp of any souls like.
@@tarnishedsouls7976tried wolong pvp, i think its the best souls pvp game🤷♀️
I didn't know this game had invasions, so that's a nice surprise
i wasnt expecting it but this game looks super good honestly, my only gripe is the camera moving up and down too much during a fight in a tight space
Pvp unfortunately is trash in this game the lag framerate are awful not to mention they get two lives makes it trash
@@midnighttrain522why thats trash?
Holy shit this game sucks at pvp. Horrible
@Ryuzaki280 it makes the fight longer than it needs to be
The game looks quite clunky to me. No clean animations.
My first invasion sadly ended with me getting sniped by a radiant Pilgrim right after I tossed the invader off a (damaging but nonlethal) drop with the umbral lamp's soul-flay. Love the moveset variety on weapons. Lights, heavies, swapping 1h-2h, kicks, the L1 + R2 attacks, etc. I just feel like we're missing an indicator for our own posture.
Also I feel it's kinda weird that Pieta's sword is not a Long Sword? Does make me want to swap to a Radiance build instead of the Str + Radiance I was planning.
You only have the big hammers if you wanna go STR+Rad, right??
@@hellxapo5740There are also some Greatswords, like the Justice or the Revager's.
Pietas sword is the meta weapon in the game. It does rediculous damage and procs smite nearly instantly with each hit. And the radiance spells are all ridiculously hard hitting in pvp and pve
I got invaded and the guy just shot me through a wall with a laser beam
Lords of the Fallen:
From Software: Look at what they must do to replicate a fraction of our power...
😂
But honestly, its pretty darn close. And i prefer this games world design, its far more foreboding and creepy. I missed that since Bloodborne
@@pedroj3432samee🥵 I love that dark Gothic art style it's so immersive 🔥
Lies of P is wayy better in doing that haha, it actually feels like a From game
@@Holynoelle you mean the floaty character game with horrid animations? Nah man ill pass on that one 😅
@@pedroj3432Your loss. Missing a great game and a great experience.
it just looks like a jankier demon souls
This game doesn’t look that bad, I might actually pick this up
I bought it about 3 weeks ago, and it's great. Before that I only played elden ring souls-genre wise
Is awesome. 10/10 would buy again
I dont if its the latency but.. this pvp looks like a fcking fever dream 😂
Seeing this game just makes me realise how great the SoulsBorneRing games are.
Facts. This looks awful
The pve is really good, netcode is bad and will probably get fixed, chill
FieldsCoreSoulsBorneKiroRing-like
i wanna cop this game but aghh it looks bad lmao is it worth $70 😅😅
@@Fleebuss wait and buy. The devs are patching the game super fast. They just dropped another patch like an hour ago so when you do get it, it will be solid at the rate things are going
That fight at 7 mins was freaking awesome even though you lost. Most souls streamers if I remember right don't showcase their defeats. So that makes you awesome. Also how many invaders are allowed? And is it like elden ring where you can only invade active coop sessions?
only 1 invader, and one summon allowed. and no you can be invaded if solo as well :) ur typical souls pvp not elden rings bs
This is the best pvp content I’ve seen so far and it’s still abysmal. What even is this netcode????
It’s Bec of Unreal engine 5
It's not peer to peer like in Souls, but everything is dependent on the host. Only what the host sees matters, so if he's got a bad connection, it's gonna suck (for the invader)
@@wezerdsource on that?
@@realcuondaotherside Jeenine's video on the multiplayer problems in this game
@@wezerd disappointing given that multiplayer was such a big selling point in the marketing for this game. I’m inclined to refund it at this point
8:37 is there really not posture bar I can watch to make sure I’m not the one being stunned?
There really is no posture bar 🥲
@@Oroboro yea that’s what I mean and it’s kinda annoying to watch you get stunned because you can’t tell so you can play a bit more defensive once it’s low. I’m new and just trying to get my buddy to join co-op is a nightmare
Love the jump stab chug punish
The game is really fun playing with another person or by yourself is great and I love that aspect of the game. PvP is a joke though if you’re not dealing with terrible lag then it’s an OP host that one shots you
They have settings now that keeps you only connecting with people with low latency/ping
Is it like elden ring invasions or like just by being online you can get invaded?
How do you do pvp with say a friend? like is there a way i can 1v1 my friend like we use to in elden ring?
Game looks good and refreshing from the first can’t wait to pick this up after I finish off lies
It's a lot of fun, the ideas of the game are very intriguing. Has some flaws obviously, but I feel like the devs actually care and wanna work with the community for future updates.
I watched your vids before getting AC6 and I ended up doing all 3 endings and getting 100%. I also got pretty good in the PVP. Is this game worth the full price? Whats its length like? Im always nervous buying Souls-like games from devs that arent Fromsoft. I think the only one i enjoyed was Nioh
10/10 would buy again
What level is advisable for pvp?
For invasions any level, for duels 125
4:00 is uberhaxornova just came from watching his vod to see if he made it in the video. poor guy was trying to get his vigor back when it popped up and I couldn't stop laughing because I knew what was coming for anyone interested in seeing the other perspective it happens at 05:48:52 on his first vod on twitch
Is this build a throwback to the quest for hatemail days with the spell buffed falchion?
Why is your pvp smooth but mine is a glitchy mess?
Can any body tell me what armor set hes wearing in this? LOOKS SICK
i cant wait to play this!!
I like the visuals and the attacks. Pretty cool, pretty cool.. i don't know about the invasion though. Maybe it's because it's not that old yet and there things to optimise. But honestly, pretty neat.
i havent been able to actually get an invasion once, it just does matchmaking for like 5 min then stops
What's Oro playing this on? PC?
Ps5 I think
mfkr is rich he play on ps5
@you're crazy if you think a PC that will run this game is cheaper than a ps5
I'm running it just fine on a 2016 £1,000 PC, it's probably worth about £50 these days@@quinnbeasley94
@@quinnbeasley94 probably not a technologically adept individual
Has anyone else been avoiding all LotF gameplay like the plague to avoid spoilers? Or is it just me? 😅
Didn't realize you could attack people on the groudn, damn.
I’ve played PVP pretty heavily over the last week to get the Adyr Set. My takeaway from about 200 invasions with my Lvl 35 Umbral build:
- Host almost always gets priority hits due to invasions being host-based instead of peer-to-peer.
- Radiance is OP. If you come across someone with Pieta’s sword, put on something with radiance protection and keep your distance.
- Poison is very effective, especially at low levels where they don’t have much health.
- Charred fingers are often not worth the risk of investment. Only use them when you’re certain you’re going to win. Sometimes the payout doesn’t even happen, which I hope they fix.
- PVP is overall not as bad as people say it is, but it still needs a lot of work.
Is it fixed
@LindyKnight I think so, I'm having a blast with it. New option too to only connect with low ping ppl
I got invaded one time and had a random helper appear. They both died to the invaders attack which killed them both.
Invaded another time and did *_no_* damage to the invader. Only 52 damage total at a time with a Grand Axe.
Not to mention, the game is just... it's not worth invading right now. Best I can say
Anyone know if there's Poise/ something like it?
I think so but it’s not evident in the game. I equipped a poise ring but I don’t think it made a lick of difference. One smack with the longsword and I’m cut out of my animations. With “increased poise”
Great stuff - is there any benefit for PvP or just for the fun?
is gameplay from PC?
There is a shared shrine of sorts you can donate you're hands to. It's a covenant system. There appears to be stuff you can buy with the hands too, but I don't know what those are yet.
What sword are you using??
First boss sword!
What would you all say is the most efficient way to get consistent invasions?
Progress further and further into the game
And people thought this would be serious competition for from
Invasions are the only thing they could have done better than Fromsoft but at this point I wish they didn’t implement it and put resources into something else.
The game is solid, just as the other guy said, dont play online just yet.
the pve could be if they iron out a few kinks
@just wait for the "playability patch" bro. This game will totally be worth 60 USD in 4 months
The ER killer... yes indeed. Kinda cool if you found 60 bucks lying around and are bored though.
Do the boss weapons not have unique attacks ?
I still have a problem with this game crashing and freezing when loading or when creating a character
be careful bro new bug just dropped that permanently randomizes your stats when hosts dc from you. bricked my first playthrough charater a couple of hours ago just cause i wanted to do a few invasions. now hes a lvl 75 with less stats then a lvl 45
What The Fuck
Dude I used to watch u when I was like 10 years old and now I’m 20 godamn
WOW I feel old 😂 👴
The yellow sword telegraphs your movement windup in the darkness
Is this going to be my second ds2? Please let it be
The Lord Provideth lol. 10/10 wud git again
Not gonna lie I enjoy the AC6 videos way more
Not gonna lie I enjoy everything Oro uploads, regardless of what game he plays
need more pvp
Come back later today and tomorrow 🙂
This game looks oddly jank and alot more different from the 2014 version than i was expecting.
It's a reboot from a completely different studio so it makes sense. It's a much better game I'd say
@@Loran93I’d fucking hope so, since the Original lords of the fallen is one of the worst games in history lmao.
Yeah; its janky, but it kinda just feels. . . right?
Could definitely use work, but I'm excited to see more invasions lol
Why do I get 300 severed hands every time I defeat a host? 🤔
Where did you get the Stuff from the first boss ?
Umbral merchant in the hub. You have to give him an item first, though.
Man the animationws are so.. blah. UE5 is a much better engine. i wish the animations showed it.
im surprised at the quality of the player connections showcased, in some other footage it was extremely laggy/de-synced.
I’ve heard the bad quality comes from the PC version, he plays it on the PS5.
@@outerheaven4384 i play on ps5 and is laggy too
ive yet to have one where i dont de sync or disconnect/face huge amounts of lag. every other games multiplayer is working fine. switched from this to elden ring and everything worked on elden ring. they need to fix the net code
Xbox has the worst quality of the game
im just happy i was able to get a refund on ps5. after only playing a few hours of it@@audreyposey3090
Thanks , good pvp .
I'm running dual of those holy swords with the holy posture damage talisman, and posture damage runes and they're op. 68 is max scaling level it seems. Mana continues going up
shocker
These invasions actually look like one of the best soul-like elements in this game. The umbral system gives the host that classic host advantage but with some flavor, and as a host you really don't want to have to go into that advantage HP since it means you'll be in umbral until you get your next chance to rest (though iirc LotF gives the ability to plop down a psuedo-bonefire to un-umbral, but it's still a cost I think?) Anyway, this is making me a lot more interested in trying this game than your PvE vods did tbh.
Nah invasions suck so much it's far to laggy and unstable that as the invader your guaranteed to lose
@@_fireVFX ah that's a shame, yeah game-feel stuff like lag can be hard to tell in video unless it's super obvious.
@@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshinyou're meant to play it on ps5, barely have issues on mine, most come from PC since it's designed for SSD and rlly should prob be exclusive at launch so people will stop complaining
Looks way more scuffed and unsatisfying than I thought it would. Guess Fromsoft really are the only ones who do animation and technical combat mechanics the way I like..
Invasion LVL please?
Proof you can have fun with sub par PvP
That’s why we love all soul games Bec pvp is always sub par in from softs games but it’s still fun
Guess I’m buying it now.
Looks fun hope for more oro!
Ok, is this game actually worth getting?
No
Copy that, thanks boys.
Crazy how unbalanced the pvp is, you do next to no damage unless you use a holy weapon.
I get invaded by people and I be doing no damage to them with 2 max out lord swords and still I hit them for like 50 damage
This game is great but the multiplayer has more lag than any game I've seen in the last 15 years.
Looks really clunky.
The game isn't clunky at all
My multiplayer takes forever I’ve only found 1 co op
anyone else feel like the footage is at x1.25 speed?
dat netcode tho
WTF? its hard to pay attention to whats going on with all this floaty movement and animations, the weapons don't sound very impactful at all
idk if its just me but this game to me feels like ds1 and old souls games
Nah 100% the pve and overall world of this game made me feel heavy demons souls vibes which is why i picked it up mainly. Gotta say im glad i did
Brandon, imo, Elden Ring would be the perfect game if it had DS2 covenants and invasions. Do you agree?
And consecutive wins in the ER arena will give you a glowy effect just like in DS2.
I can’t get multiplayer to work at all despite having good internet 😅
Seems hella unbalanced
Its day 1 of the game ... dude already doing pvp with a legendary sword vs noob people with trash weapon
This is literally the first boss weapon on a character I created today lmao
@@Oroboro the classic crying continues 🤣, just like every game
Imagine having the audacity release a game in this state.
Yeah it has such a.. clunky feeling? Seems retarded imo
Money grabs always win
What do you mean? Having a blast in this game
the peer to peer is busted for coop and pvp single player is dependent on how well the optimization works on your platform pc/console setup @@sethrussell7771
@@sethrussell7771 PC performance is non existent.
I just had my first PvP invasion a bit ago. Dude just stood there and healed when I ran out of stamina. I eventually killed him when he ran out of healing. Then I popped the Xbox achievement and immediately went offline.
Why does the game look so low quality
I can't do invasions had to go offline to keep from being invaded usually I love pvp but it's so laggy with this game I can dodge or parry I just get r1 spammed to death
You're the boss!!
Yo what it has pvp??? Exciting! Hope it's fun and can last :D
pvp looks neat but animations could maybe use some cleaning up. the attacks are looking a little choppy and hard to see.
It's desyncing issues, there basically is no animation you just see the attack and get stun locked.
These were better connections than I ever saw and it still looked horrible.
this game has invasions????????
Something about the combat animations feels super off...
You were getting your butt kicked on PVP.
man the scaling is so shit..like they do next to no dmg to you
This is a great example of a game underperforming by trying way too hard. It's funny they tried to out "dark souls" Fromsoft.
Yo what weapon is that 😂
The first boss weapon 😍
@@Oroboroappreciate it, I must've skipped by it in my inventory 😂🔥
Wow multiplayer so smooth on pc
Ps5 is horrendous
Another pietra sword user 😂
Well said. I’m loving every aspect of the game including PvP but that side of it could use a few tweaks to smooth out the experience. Especially for the invaders. It’s saying something that I’ve never lost to an invader in my world, but flipping the script and becoming the invader is like taking a cheese grater to the face 😂😂😂 I’ve been melee struck from bow and spell range as well as double teamed by a pair both dual wielding Pietas sword for a whopping total of 4 Pieta swords. Instant smite. Every touch earns a lightning bolt straight to my dome. 😂😂😂
@@NinjaAF2099 radiance heal and there’s another aura that heals constantly but drains mana over time, that’ll let you wield any other weapon and tank every bit of smite, ring of posture will save you as well. Once they nerf pieta and blessed reflections everyone is gonna call the game trash cause their weapon was nerded and have zero clue how to build anything else
@@NinjaAF2099 their servers need a lot of work, and since it’s a peer to peer connection if their internet sucks or your on the other side of the world you’ll lag a lot
@@SamuelLua true in a way the game sets you up with a meta sword super early so everyone is inclined to radiance at the moment. I’m working towards umbral strength but trying to iron out the level caps. It’ll be a higher level build to do any real damage.
Rubber band the video game
I want to fight ppl lukr this all i get is lightning spammers lmao
Is dudes like I was trying to be nice but you were the one who invaded the other dude in the first place under no circumstances is the person that's being invaded have to be nice to the invader 🤡. Play for real if you invade somebody and you get tea bag taunted slow claps get the point down emotes done to you it's literally all fair game because you're the one invading somebody else that was minding their own business.
I’ll keep playing elden ring:)
network effects seem even worse in this game than in souls games. and souls games were already terrible when it comes to this. super disappointed
Pvp right now its just stupid 😅 the host have such a huge advantage in therm of connection the host cant be hit even if my blade go right on him and he dont get stagger at all
Pvp isnjust unplayable 90% of the fight is ghost hits laggy caracter fun time
big man using the dev build...
wat
I already know what it will be
Elden ring doesn't happen with 1 game, this is like early demon souls stage, and this looks like emergency adding feature like what code vein who originally single player to have coop online
What i think best for this type is since this is peer to peer connection, adding rollback like fighting game kinda nice idea
The PvP is host based in this game which equals bad. It is so horrible. PvE is alot better