Blade 200 SRX - BIG Power Increase!

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  • Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
  • Video showing my experiments with increasing power on the Blade 200SRX. Awesome heli, but totally gutless. I'm am trying Walkera V200DO2 blades on it and the video shows the results of that test. I have cut 3/4" off the end of each blade, because at full length they just have too much power. I have not experienced tail blowout even with the full length blades and I have also not noticed any significant increase in motor temperature during testing. The motor barely gets warm. I have chosen to work with the blades rather than changing the gearing because the head speed is already so high. High head speed just means much more damage in a crash. I have seen to much of that on my TREX 250. I think the blade change is a much better solution. I have flown the heli with the full length V200 blades and it flew fine except applying excessive power in fast forward flight resulted in some instability. This is why I have decided to cut the blades down a little. Note that this is a work in progress and that I will do more flight testing with these and report back (if the wind here ever stops). :-) BTW: The Walkara blades only cost $3.85 as compared to $9.99 for the stock ones so that's just a bit of a bonus. :-) Note that the V200DO1 blades are the same as the D02 blades except that they are yellow. If you cut the blades, be sure to screw them together first so that they remain in perfect balance.
    ...Tiger

Комментарии • 92

  • @AlejandroMartinez-jt3zu
    @AlejandroMartinez-jt3zu 10 лет назад

    My blades came in today, and tomorrow my bird will be flying after the modification. I can't wait. Thanks again Tiger.

  • @paulatrounce7522
    @paulatrounce7522 9 лет назад

    Makes perfect sense to me! I just came back from my first flight and even as a beginner i found the lack of lift worrying and the 200% increase didn't appeal at all. I bought this heli to learn on and i don't want to ruin what i loved on my first flight.
    Blades ordered! Bread knife at the ready!
    Thanks for this Tiger.
    Paula.

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  9 лет назад

      Bread knife??? Hope you're not going to try to cut them with that! If you don't have some kind of saw, you could probably cut them with heavy scissors. You'll want to be sure follow my instructions posted earlier about bolting the two blades together for cutting. If you have to cut with scissors, bolt the two blades together and cut them one at a time. When you get the top one cut, you can use it as a guide by laying it back down on the bottom one. When you're done cutting, you'll still want to sand them together to make them identical for perfect balance. You can use some sandpaper on a block of wood for that. Happy Flying! ...Tiger

    • @paulatrounce7522
      @paulatrounce7522 9 лет назад

      I'm a big fan of the bread knife! I do have some tin snips too. I'm hoping this mod will help when i fit my scale body. Looking forward to it. Cheers

  • @ultragroove1
    @ultragroove1 9 лет назад

    Yep, I did exactly the same thing when I spun this heli up for the first time. I thought there was something wrong with the throttle, and yes, I even bumped it up to full 200%. With the stock blades, it's got zero punch out of a bad situation. I am a Walkera guy from my earlier days in FP, and had a bunch of v200 both versions lying around. I replaced them and noticed an immediate improvement in zip and throttle/elevator. I don't know why anyone would complain about boosting performance. This may be a beginner helicopter, but it's a lot of fun and does have the three modes. I fly this at intermediate to maintain some degree of flybarless gyro, whereas the expert is exactly like flying an old HoneyBee FP, (can't believe someone referenced that) but its so true! I wish Blade would have engaged some degree of 6 axis in the expert setting but oh well. I can live with it. For the money, this is a darn nice FP flyer. Lots of mods available and I bought one with a buddy who is new to the hobby so I could go along as he progresses. I still prefer CP, but I don't miss rebuilding CP birds after horrendous crashes. So hey, if a set of blades off the V series Walkeras make this heli punch out and thus WAY more controllable, I'm happy. After all, this is a hobby full of tinkering and modification. It is no fun to fly anything stock. imho
    Thanks for the video, and for confirming what I had hoped others had figured out. The blade switch out WORKS!! :)

  • @DanielMigneault
    @DanielMigneault 9 лет назад

    Thank you so much for your input and bet you i will get a blast...very soon!

  • @oned8305
    @oned8305 10 лет назад

    200 SRX mod. I have gotten the v200D02 blades and cut them down 1-1/4" and they work great so far only have 2 flights indoors but so far so good seems to be a little more stable definitely has alot more lift, instead of being at 3/4 throttle to hover i'm just a little over 1/2 throttle now go to full and the heli jumps up quick. I was also looking for more lift not head speed, it already has good head speed especially for a beginner to intermediate pilot, I am intermediate and very happy now, before i almost hit the fence outside due to not being able to gain altitude fast enough now it will have no problem getting out of a situation like that. Thanks Tiger
    .

  • @oned8305
    @oned8305 10 лет назад

    Thank you for the what tool to use answer, I accidentally asked question with my brothers account anyway I'll try the blades when they show up.
    I'll leave a post after I try the new blades out.
    thanks for the time you put in to telling us how to modify and get a much more pleasurable experience flying the 200 srx

  • @TigersToys
    @TigersToys  10 лет назад +4

    To all who have asked questions... Guys - I'm not ignoring you here. I do see your questiions, but for whatever reason, I keep getting locked out of my own post. I don't know what's different today, but it seems to have let me in so I'm posting. First let me say that most of the questions that are being asked have already been answered in previous posts (which is frustrating). Please read the old posts so I don't have to keep answering the same questions over and over.
    SuperDrummer311 and others - Yes you can get what you need by upping the power to 150-200%. BUT... The whole point of changing the blades is so that you DON'T HAVE TO increase the head speed. I talk about that in other replies and even in the video. It's not that you can't get more power that way or that I don't know about it. The new blades are just a much better solution for most folks that have this heli. The Walkera blades work wonderfully at the stock head speed and I still recommend it. If you were a 3D pilot in another life and don't mind massive damage when you screw up, by all means stay with the stock blades and jack up the speed. I will continue to be thrilled with the new blades, low head speed, and how this is flying. Under no circumstances should you run the Walkera blades AND up the head speed. The blades are not strong enough for that and anyway, the tail is going to blow out.
    With regard to balancing the blades, there is no need to do that if you attach them together to cut and sand like I suggested. These are injection molded blades and are virtually identical so they will be in balance unless you cut the two different. Balance isn't as much of an issue anyway with the modest head speed.
    Rebelman810 - Yes, I continue to super pleased with the Walkera blades and the way I have them cut now. I have not made any other changes from the stock setup. The heli flys wonderfully and I still recommend this change. Pretty much all of the other guys here that fly the 200 have made this modification now and are equally pleased.
    Brian Verbel - Yes it's 1-1/4" off of EACH blade (not total). As I mentioned earlier, it's a good idea to screw the two blades together and cut and sand them at the same time to maintain balance. You'll find it very stable in flight. If you've got a wobble in yours, you might want to take a close look at other things like the main shaft.
    Ron Miller / Shane Miller - I keep receiving this question. Yes I know about reprogramming the head speed using the Horizon procedure. Horizon came out with that very early in the game, because they realized they had a serious problem. I really think it would have been much better for them to acknowledge the problem and change the blades. Their solution with head speed is in my mind totally inconsistent with the "fun fly" nature of this helicopter. Jacking up the head speed turns it into a completely different animal. If you're looking for a "completely different animal", then I'd suggest you buy a different helicopter.
    FINAL COMMENT - I know there are those of you that don't agree with what I'm saying here. I'm really not interested in debating the merits of this with you. If 200% head speed makes you happy, then go for it! I posted this for the other 99% of guys that just want a cheap and simple solution to making this the sweet little thing I think it was intended to be.
    Happy flying!!! ...TIger

  • @TigersToys
    @TigersToys  10 лет назад +4

    UPDATE: I have trimmed my blade a little more and I think I have finally found the sweet spot for the length. I have now cut 1-1/4" (total) off the blade and it would appear to strike a perfect balance between power and stability. It's REALLY nice to fly now! Plenty of power to pull out of a dive, but not so much as to overcome the tails ability to counteract the torque. The best way to cut this is to make a template out of cardboard (or whatever) that is 1-1/4" wide and offer it up to the angled tip of the original blade. This makes marking the cut line very easy. After you cut, you'll want to sand the corners round again. It's best to bolt or tape the blades together for this operation in order to keep them identical and balanced.
    ...Tiger

    • @zero-ol2nt
      @zero-ol2nt 10 лет назад

      Did you still use the v200D02 blades for this? Also can you explain again what you mean by the easiest way to cut these? Thanks

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  10 лет назад +1

      themahonster
      Yes, I am still using the v200D02 blades. As for how to cut them, what I was basically saying is that you want to cut them both at the same time to keep them identical and in balance. To do this, lay one on top of the other and put a screw through the mounting hole. A #2 machine screw works well. This bolts the blades together in perfect alignment. Then down on the far (tip) end of the blade it's nice to tape them together so that that end can't move around. With the two blades secured together like that, you can trim the end off and know that the two are still going to be identical. Hope that helps! :-) ...Tiger

    • @nhsledfreak
      @nhsledfreak 8 лет назад

      I run the Extreme Production 8 degree pitch and I get the same climb rate as you are getting. Saves the hassle of cutting and balancing also :)

  • @williamdonohue7470
    @williamdonohue7470 9 лет назад

    Just wanted to let you this solved my problem. I could hardly get my 200SRX off the ground, even with motor power at 200%. Problem being I'm at 9150 ft. elevation. This rotor blade swap did the trick. This has now become the first rc heli that actually flies for me at my altitude.

  • @georgia_helinut3406
    @georgia_helinut3406 10 лет назад +1

    I just recently bought my 200 srx in the rtf version. I have 3 flights on mine. Although this is a great heli . I agree with you on it being gutless. Once you're up in the air flying it flies great but when you c** load off the ground and try to accelerate away from the ground it just does not have enough ass with those skinny little blades so I saw your post and decided to do something just like you but instead of those Walkera blades I have some the 912 slaves that are about a half inch shorter than the stock 200 blades but significantly wider once I install them about a quarter stick the 200 Haley was up in the air and I had so much torque under full throttle going straight inline it did have just a little bit of tail blowout but not too bad it was so much more fun to fly I also was looking at those walkie raw high performance blades which those are the black and white ones I'm not sure the link on those I may have to trim them down like you did with it be 200 c0 2 blades as far as the head speed I agree with you on that it is plenty fast

  • @anthoneyking6572
    @anthoneyking6572 10 лет назад

    Just brought me one will arrive tuesday im thinking the way to go is with better blades but im hopeing more will try this here and post so ill know the best Blades to add to mine
    all the best Paul

  • @stephenvieira4309
    @stephenvieira4309 10 лет назад +1

    Nice work, but I am curious if you ever used the new Eflite instructions on entering the ESC programming and changing the main motors power output to 200%? I personally increased the main motor power to 200% and the tail motor to 150% and it flies rest now with more than enough power. It's like a new heli. You should give it a try and let us know what you think.

  • @TigersToys
    @TigersToys  10 лет назад

    Jason Day - I agree, but that would be too easy. :-) Cutting the blades is really a piece of cake if you bolt them together to do it. You can't really mess anything up or get it out of balance that way. You can use plastic, cardboard, or just about anything for the shim. You can cut something out with an exacto knife. Just be sure to make it about 3/8" in diameter and you'll be fine. I had one local guy try to use washers and because the diameter was so small, the blades didn't seat in the grips and they flopped around making the heli unstable.

  • @morrismercier9849
    @morrismercier9849 2 года назад

    Did you know you could do a power increase by going into programming for the remote. Look it up on RUclips you will find it quite useful and you won't end up with as much as 200 power increase with this little SRX it's absolutely amazing when done the right.

  • @RuudyL
    @RuudyL 7 лет назад

    I have recently bought Xtreme carbon blades that are especially for the 200 they come in different pitch angles and work very well

  • @jamesm568
    @jamesm568 9 лет назад +6

    If I want more pitch from the stock blades I just heat them up and twist them.

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  9 лет назад +1

      James M That's an interesting idea! Never heard of anyone doing that. Be easy to do, but I sure don't see how you would bend them both perfectly equally. I'm sure the blades would be less efficient, but might work in a pinch. :-)

    • @jamesm568
      @jamesm568 9 лет назад +1

      TigersToys I take my 200 out on the road with me and when it sits inside a hot vehicle the damn blades straighten out so I have to twist them back. I've always done it with my fixed pitch helis with no issues.

  • @Msonata1
    @Msonata1 10 лет назад

    I couldn't find a source for the V200D02 but I did find the D01's. They are a vast improvement over the stock blades as well

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  10 лет назад

      Carl - The D01 blades you got are exactly the same as the D02 blades I'm using. The only difference is the color. I actually like the D01's better. The best blade is the one you can actually find to buy. :-) Have fun!
      ...TIger

  • @jwhit4097
    @jwhit4097 9 лет назад

    nice vid - thanks

  • @gmodesike
    @gmodesike 8 лет назад +1

    with the change in blades you could have turned down the head speed and had good response, right?

  • @Wuffty
    @Wuffty 8 лет назад

    I just stumbled upon your interesting video, also an interesting idea :-)
    Just wondering which walkera blades you mean: You mentioned using the V200D01/2 blades or the ones from the cb180. But the all have different dimensions, so I am confused %-)I looked in several shops and got difference technical details for this 3 blades 190mm lenght for V200D02, 185mm for the CB180-Z (the on that Daniel Migneault mentioned a year ago) and 200mm for the V200D01 blades. What is the original lengh of the blades you used and how long is it after cuttung off ? (I am confused about measuring in inches.... ?-) Thanks !

  • @rebelman810
    @rebelman810 10 лет назад

    Hi Tiger,
    It has been a couple of weeks since your last video and posting. I was just wondering how these blades are continuing to work out? Have you been able to try the Walkera blades in all three modes to make sure the A3X stability still functions normally? Have you found an optimal end of the blade shape,i.e. striaght, curved, angled, etc.? Any new videos to show us the blade modifcation itself? I think someone asked too for the actual blade length for the final modification for us to use as a guide. And any new flying videos to show the improved performance? Thanks again and great information.

  • @mssippijim
    @mssippijim 9 лет назад

    Careful with increasing the blade pitch. You will decrease head speed and wind handling capability. It is my belief that the relatively high head speed (for a fp) and relatively low blade pitch are what helps to make this handle the wind amazingly well for a fixed pitch heli. Anyone ever try to fly a honeybee fp in a breeze??

  • @greenstx
    @greenstx 10 лет назад

    good idea and video. can you post the blade type and what you did to them. my sound is messed up and keeps getting static-y

  • @MitchellPetersoncustomdrone
    @MitchellPetersoncustomdrone 10 лет назад

    I don't know why you'd go w different blades when all you need to do is increase the motor gain as outlined in the Blade web site. The difference is like night and day with and increase in power of at least 100%. I use a Nano tech 1000mah that gives me 20 minuets of flight

  • @zero-ol2nt
    @zero-ol2nt 10 лет назад

    great video..if you wanted to install a 13t pinion on this where would you purchase the 13t gear from?

  • @SuperDrummer311
    @SuperDrummer311 10 лет назад

    Answer the questions previoulsy posted please .......... did you up the power to 150% or 200% before you did this?
    Or since? And if since..... results?? Also did you balance the blades after cutting them? It's very important to do so!

  • @ronwilson9080
    @ronwilson9080 10 лет назад

    Eflite already has a procedure to increase the motor power to 200% via ESC programming for the RTF transmitter. Was that procedure attempted first before swapping blades?

  • @DanielMigneault
    @DanielMigneault 9 лет назад

    Ok fine, so a 3/4 '' cut is needed and for the long run do you think they could arm the motor??. Thanks for your support, really appreciated!

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  9 лет назад

      Daniel - Using these blades is a LOT easier on the heli than the 200% mod many other people have suggested. That's one reason I did it this way. I and a ton of other guys have been flying these for months and months and months now with no issues of any kind. Just read the earlier posts about the best way to cut them and go have a blast with your new heli. :-) ...Tiger

  • @arizonapooltileclean
    @arizonapooltileclean 10 лет назад

    I just ordered some v200Do2 blades to try them out I understand the method for trimming just want to know what tool you used to do the trimming thanks for video

  • @TigersToys
    @TigersToys  10 лет назад

    For those still looking for a 13T pinion, I ran into a couple leads that might help. First, the pitch on my 450 heli seems to mate with the 200 main gear just fine so I think that makes the pitch .5mod. That should narrow the search quite a bit. Note that the hole in the 450 gear is to big so you still have to find something with a smaller hole. Second, if you can read German, I think these guys are selling the 13T gear: www.nanoheli.net
    I still think changing the blade is a better plan, but if you are looking for the pinion, I hope this helps! ...Tiger

    • @stephenvieira4309
      @stephenvieira4309 10 лет назад +2

      Rakonheli.com sells 11T, 12T and 13T replacements along with lots of other upgrades. Best part is everything is in English, so no confusion! ;) Happy flying!

  • @erichouston4868
    @erichouston4868 9 лет назад

    How do the higher lift blades handle higher winds? With the increased lift it seems like it would have a hard time decending in 10+mph winds. Thanks for the great information.

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  9 лет назад

      Hello Eric! I wish I could tell you that they handle the wind better, but they really don't. I suppose the good news is that they don't work any worse either. :-) My experience is that fixed pitch helis all tend to flare up when they hit a gust of wind. When you combine that characteristic with the light weight of the 200 and it's just a problem. I try to fly the little birds early in the morning or late in the afternoon when the wind tends to be less. If it's windy, I reach for my 400 or 450 sized collective pitch rigs that are heavier and do a lot better. If you live in a place where it's windy all the time, like my friend in Texas, you might try increasing the head speed with the regular (lower pitch) blades. That's a last resort to me, because you end up with all the problems that come with high head speed. On the other hand, if it's your only option, I guess it's your only option. :-) If you're somewhat new to helicopters, I'd struggle with the wind situation for a while or find a place to fly indoors until you hone your skills to where you rarely crash. Happy flying! ...Tiger

  • @choopinyoo889
    @choopinyoo889 10 лет назад

    Good idea. Can I know your actual total length of a blade ?
    Thank you, and regards from Belgium -)

  • @kevincarlisle1212
    @kevincarlisle1212 9 лет назад

    This is a noob question, but would the blade change increase the flight time any? It obviously increases lift and aids in recovery. Thank you for the video.

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  9 лет назад +1

      Hello Kevin! Blade changes of any kind generally do not change flight time very much. It pretty comes down to how much energy it takes to keep the heli in the air and that energy has to come from your battery. There are minor differences in blade efficiency I suppose and also minor changes in motor efficiency at different rpm's, but all of these tend to be small in comparison to overall power consumption. That said, if you make the blade change I'm suggesting, your flight time should remain about the same. I do think however that your "flight experience" is going to be better and that seems pretty important to me. Enjoy!
      ...Tiger

  • @edwinmendija8087
    @edwinmendija8087 9 лет назад

    What exactly was the "instability" that you experienced when the DO2 were at full length? I installed a new set and the helicopter is now experiencing a very bad wobble to the whole helicopter. Any help appreciated....oh and thanks for sharing this video!

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  9 лет назад +1

      Edwin Mendija Hello Edwin. I don't remember ever having a lot of "wobble". With the blades too long, the problem is more a matter of not having the power to pull them. "Wobble" sounds more like some other problem. The first things that come to mind are: Be sure you put a washer on the blades to take up the slop in the blade holders that are a little wide. The next thing that comes to mind is blades out of balance. Did you screw them together to cut them like I suggested? Hard not to get a pretty good balance if you cut and sand them together like that. If you did cut them one at a time, screw them together now and sand them to match perfectly. Lastly, did you go to the new blades after a crash with the factory blades? Easy to get a bad wobble from a bent main shaft. This is a long shot, but one of the guys here had a horrible wobble that turned out to be the frame screws not being tight enough. It was a really ugly problem that drove him crazy for weeks. Acted like a bent main shaft, but what was really happening was the main shaft bearings were moving around a little because the frame wasn't clamping them hard enough. That was a real head scratcher. Look close at everything and you'll find something. If you crashed, be sure to check the servo gears. That bird is known to eat servos. :-)
      ...Tiger

    • @edwinmendija8087
      @edwinmendija8087 9 лет назад

      TigersToys I did switch over to the same blades you have and cut it 1.25 inches. I put a small bolt through the hole and then taped the ends together, used a fine file to smooth the corners. I did have a bad crash d/t a bad ESC and replaced tail rotor, main gear, and aileron servo...all fixed now. The copter starts to wobble badly when it gets to a certain RPM...I back down...and it goes away. I WILL check the frame screws and main shaft next. Thanks so very much for the help!

  • @MILLERS066
    @MILLERS066 10 лет назад

    have you raised the motor gain? or is it stock settings? I just ordered these blades but have no problem with the stock ones. I have my motor gain set to 200%

  • @MZBallistic
    @MZBallistic 10 лет назад

    Did you cut then down to original size?I see they are 7 1/2 inches long,i thought of trying 120 sr blades but they are only 6 1/4 inch.

  • @Tarpmanbv1
    @Tarpmanbv1 10 лет назад

    How is it to fly is it stable or does it wobble? Is it still one and a quarter inches total that you have cut off is that per blade or combined between the two?

  • @gemster18
    @gemster18 9 лет назад

    I have a question. ..does Horizon have upgraded larger replacement blades? That you can purchase? That will fit perfectly?

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  9 лет назад +1

      I'm sorry to say that they do not. Their response to the problem was to release the high head speed fix when they realized they were in trouble. While there are a few more experienced pilots out there that actually appreciated that, it seems to me this "fix" is totally contrary to the original intent of the product. It would have been so easy for them to offer more appropriate blades, but they didn't. What would really have been nice would have been a blade fix for most people and then still release the head speed change for the few that liked it. I suspect that could have led to problems though since if you upgraded the blades and increased the head speed, something might have smoked under the heavy load. Not a big deal, different blades is still an easy fix that you can do on your own. Next time they make something like this, I think they need to test fly it a little more before releasing it. :-)
      ...Tiger

  • @TigersToys
    @TigersToys  10 лет назад

    1) I'll answer all three posting below here. Sorry, I don't know where to get the 13T pinion. I didn't even look for it after I calculated that the head speed would be over 4000rpm. I need more lift, but I don't want that head speed in the process.
    2) I also looked at the 120SR blades, but they are too small and as I recall to thick. The Walkera blades have to be shorter than the originals, because they are a lot wider. Shortening them makes them a little more stiff which is a good thing.
    3) The blades I'm using are Walkera P/N HM-V200D02-Z-01. I got mine here: www.wowhobbies.com/hm-cb180-z-33receiver-1-1-1.aspx I cut exactly 3/4" off the end of each blade at the angle of the original end. I've done more test flying since this video and think I need to cut more. Today I'm cutting off another 1/2". There is still excessive power and full throttle in fast forward flight causes some instability. I think that's from the tail rotor not being able to keep up with all the main rotor torque. I'll post again after I test the new blade length.

  • @nagathachristie6851
    @nagathachristie6851 9 лет назад

    Just curious, does the shape of the different blades affect its performance in the wind?

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  9 лет назад

      Hello Shelley! Not sure what kind of "performance" you are talking about, but you will have more power if that would help. One thing it won't help is the kind of flaring up when going into the wind. That seems to be a characteristic of all fixed pitch heli's. When it's windy, I always fly heavier collective pitch helicopters. They don't mind the wind so much. More weight helps a lot. Fixed pitch is more of an indoor or calm day choice. If you live where there is wind all the time, like some of my Texas friends, you might do better with stock blades and jacking up the head speed a little (not all the way). If you do that, it could do better in the wind at the expense of more damage when you crash. Personally, I'd just try to avoid the wind with this kind of helicopter. Here, it's almost always calm in the early morning so that's when I'd choose to fly.
      Have fun! ...Tiger

  • @erichouston4868
    @erichouston4868 9 лет назад

    Thanks

  • @DanielMigneault
    @DanielMigneault 9 лет назад

    Ok fine, then i will cut them in order to get 14 5/16 total and again thank you for your support!

  • @Thejasond1979
    @Thejasond1979 10 лет назад

    Good video, Just wish someone would sell the blades pre cut ans shimmed.

    • @BrGoBu
      @BrGoBu 9 лет назад

      Yo everyone....I just did an experiment with the blades off of a MJX F46 today on my 200 SRX, and they work GREAT!! No muss, no fuss (with gain adjustments) just slap these blades on and fly. The throttle up power is excellent and you don't have to cut the blade down in size. Fast forward flight was good as well.

  • @ultragroove1
    @ultragroove1 9 лет назад

    This may seem like a dumb question but what did you use to get super clean cuts while trimming the blade length?
    Thank you

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  9 лет назад +1

      ultragroove1 Well... I used a sheet metal shear, but I don't think many guys have that option. :-) Other guys around here have just been sawing them off using whatever they have to do that with. A band saw works great. Just be sure you screw the two blades together like I mentioned earlier. That way they are going to be identical no matter how you do it. Then if it's a little ragged, you can just file the end clean or use sandpaper on a block of wood. This lets you make them nice and smooth and even round the corners nicely. What's important is that they are identical for balance. Mine cut clean on the shear, but I still use sandpaper to round the corners and make them look nice. ...Tiger

    • @ultragroove1
      @ultragroove1 9 лет назад

      TigersToys Thank you so much for clearing this up!!
      Cheers!!

  • @TigersToys
    @TigersToys  10 лет назад

    It isn't obvious that my last post has more lines. Move your cursor around until is says "Read more (11 lines)". I don't know why it cut me off like that. Also, I have fine tuned the length of the blade. I will post that as soon as the wind slows down and I can make my final tests. It's really flying great now! ...Tiger

  • @mb9996
    @mb9996 10 лет назад

    Mine is very gutless seems like the climb rate is about 1 foot per second :(

  • @BobQueenoutlaw
    @BobQueenoutlaw 8 лет назад

    turn your motors up to 200 percent! you do it w/your radio I have a 200 an a 230 the 230 uses the same main motor! !

  • @AlejandroMartinez-jt3zu
    @AlejandroMartinez-jt3zu 10 лет назад

    Tiger I have a question. Could you also go with the same tail rotor, meaning the walkera V200D02 tail rotor or do you recommend to stay with the tail rotor that comes stock with the helo?

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  10 лет назад

      Alejandro - You absolutely DO NOT want to change the tail rotor. The tail motor is already under powered and has a crazy high KV rating. If you put anything larger on there, I'm sure the motor will burn up. The tail motor is definitely the weak point on this heli, but when it's working correctly (tail blade facing right direction), it makes adequate power (just). So I guess the good news is that you really don't need anything larger back there. It tail works just fine as it is even after you upgrade the main blades. ...Tiger

    • @AlejandroMartinez-jt3zu
      @AlejandroMartinez-jt3zu 10 лет назад

      TigersToys
      Thanks Tiger. I only have one more request. Could you please tell me the company you went through to obtain the main rotors. Walkera; the main company is at this time completely out; also if you could please tell me the part number. Thank You.

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  10 лет назад

      Alejandro Martinez I usually buy my Walkera parts from Wow Hobbies (wowhobbies.com), but I just went to their site and they seem to be out of stock right now. You can keep an eye on their page for when they come back into stock. (www.wowhobbies.com/walkera-v200d02-parts.aspx) I'm sure you could also do a google search and turn up some other sources. These blades are used on several Walkera helicopters so you can also look for these: V200D01, V200DQ01, V200D02, CB180D, CB180Q, CB180Z ...Tiger

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  10 лет назад

      TigersToys
      Oops... Just notices a posting on Wow that said the CB180 blades are about 1/4" longer than the V200 blades. Otherwise, they say they are the same. You could avoid those or just cut an extra 1/4" off if you can't fine the 200's. ...Tiger

    • @AlejandroMartinez-jt3zu
      @AlejandroMartinez-jt3zu 10 лет назад

      Thanks Tiger. I found some blades on ebay, due to the fact that everywhere else the blades are sold out. I guess people were really paying attention to your youtube tip on the 200. Thank you very much and if you have any other tips and/or tricks for tbe 200 please post and I'll be there.

  • @davechaney6084
    @davechaney6084 9 лет назад

    I tried cutting an inch off of Walkera HM-CB180Z-Z-01 Main Blades. I got a very bad wobble. I cut the blades down fastened together. any suggestions.

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  9 лет назад

      Hi Dave! You're the first one to ever say these blades caused a wobble so I suspect you did one of two things wrong. You either didn't get the two cut exactly the same length (I explained how to do them in an earlier post) or you didn't make little bushing washers to fill the gap between the thinner blade and the holder. Even a little cardboard washer works for that. ...Tiger

    • @davechaney6084
      @davechaney6084 9 лет назад

      ok thank you i did cut them the way you said. I will try different bushings. thank you

    • @leavyowens7394
      @leavyowens7394 9 лет назад

      TigersToys
      Hey tiger. All I did was take sandpaper and "sharpen" my stock blades. Sanded the leading edge from top to bottom making it sharper as if it were a knife. I did the same with the tailing edge, all in all it removed about.30 grams weight from each blade which is also how I balanced them with a small digital scale. WOW TOTALLY DIFFERENT BIRD! First flight and I hit a light fixture on the ceiling in a blink. Power is much much much better. Hovers at 40% throttle where as before it took 80-90% with fully charged batt. I love this heli now.

  • @DanielMigneault
    @DanielMigneault 9 лет назад

    ''Update: If you have not read all the postings, you may not realize that I finally ended up with 1-1/4" cut off the blades. I mention this because when I posted the video, I was cutting off a little less.''
    So in final! how long should the walkeri blades be?
    The one i'll get soon are a little more than 8'' long!

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  9 лет назад

      Just measured my blades mounted on the heli and they are 14-5/16" from tip to tip. The end of the blade is not square so it's tip to tip. I looked for the video you mention and I can't find it. It's not in this comment list as far as I can see. I also looked at your channel and didn't see anything there either. What video are you referring to? When you say 1-1/4", are you talking about off each blade or the overall span? ...Tiger

  • @erikeggenbakstad
    @erikeggenbakstad 9 лет назад

    Anyone knows if any web store have does Walkera V200DO2 blades in stock? And if so give me a link to them?
    Or maybe some other blades with similar length blades can be used?
    Thanks, Erik

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  9 лет назад +1

      Hello Erik! I get the blades from Wow Hobbies (wowhobbies.com). I just looked and they are still in stock. The blades for the Walkera V200D01, V200D01, and I think the 180 helicopters are all the same except for color. You shouldn't have any trouble finding them. Happy Flying! ...Tiger

    • @erikeggenbakstad
      @erikeggenbakstad 9 лет назад

      +TigersToys Thank you! But I find them as out of stock though..
      But I manage to find another store this night and ordered 3 sets of blades. They cost about a dollar more, but it's okay. They are still almost half price from stock ones.
      For others interested getting them, here is the link where I ended up buying them: www.helipal.com/hm-v200d02-z-01-main-blade.html
      Part number: HM-V200D02-Z-01
      TigerToys: Correct me if I am wrong here about the blades I found, I don't want to give out any false information.
      Again, thank you for the video and helping me getting the blades. Looking forward to get some more lift at less head speed now :)

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  9 лет назад +1

      Yes Erik those are the correct blades. I don't understand WOW being out of stock, but I'm glad you found some. I think you'll really like how they fly.
      ...Tiger

  • @thainnei
    @thainnei 10 лет назад

    Have you ever had the problem with tail moter BLADE 200 SRX ?

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  10 лет назад

      Sai Sai - I've never had a problem with the tail motor and I've flow it a lot. I know some early buyers had trouble with the motor heating up, but my understanding is that some of the helis had the tail blade on backwards causing the motor to run much harder than it should. I assume that problem was solved in later production. Nobody I fly with here has had a problem with the tail motor either.

    • @thainnei
      @thainnei 10 лет назад

      yea my is the tail motor is faster then the main motor. And i don't know how to fix it. Right after i bought that the motor smoked and i replace a new one it spin very fast and i can't fly it. I haven't had a chance to enjoy my Blade 200 srx outside.

    • @TigersToys
      @TigersToys  10 лет назад

      sai sai thain I don't know what to tell you other than make sure the blade is on in the right direction. If it's on backwards, the motor will run to fast and get hot. Maybe you could look at one on another helicopter and compare it to yours. There are no markings on the blade to tell you what is the right direction.

    • @thainnei
      @thainnei 10 лет назад

      I'll try and let you know thanks a lot for your advice.

  • @tigerstoys9319
    @tigerstoys9319 10 лет назад +1

    Guys - Sorry about my absence here, but this Google+ crap they are trying to cram down our throats has had me locked out of my own postings. I seem to be in right now so I'll answer several of you here. RUclips was so nice for so long, but now Googles "we know what's best for you and we want all your information" policy has me ready to throw them under the bus. Anyway... I have been unable to answer several of you in a timely way and I'm sorry for that.
    Mark Nuetzman - I used a shear to cut the blades, but there are lots of easy ways to do it. Just remember you need to make them identical in order to maintain balance. You could even cut them one at a time with scissors and then bolt them together and sand them to be identical. Another good way is bolting them together and bandsawing them. Just make sure they are identical when you're done and they'll work great.
    You Other Guys - Several of you keep asking me why I don't just up the gain using the procedure on the Horizons site. You must not be listening to what I've been saying. Yes! You can increase the gain and get more performance. I KNOW THAT. The whole point of my blade change is to avoid doing that very thing. I don't want to increase the head speed. I keep saying that! High head speed is not a good thing unless you have no other alternative to get the job done. I definitely don't recommend the gain increase for guys starting out with helicopters (the guys most likely to buy this SRX). Personally, I am really enjoying the blade change and I have many years of experience flying larger CP helicopters. I find this change totally consistent with the design and purpose of this little heli. This thing is super fun and relaxing to fly and I'd like to keep it that way. If I want to fly 3D or do something wild, I have lots of other helicopters for that. :-)
    Update: If you have not read all the postings, you may not realize that I finally ended up with 1-1/4" cut off the blades. I mention this because when I posted the video, I was cutting off a little less.
    Thanks to all of you for posting! ...Tiger