I had this movie on VHS and used to watch it constantly. The music at the beach landing scene was EPIC. Also, the irony of a movie where the vast majority of characters die, yet Sean Bean survives.
the only thing I remember is two armies stopped fighting "for the day" when a kid got killed or something. I never got over the ridiculousness of that :)
The fight scene between Brad Pitt and Eric Bana was one of the best sword duels ever put to film. I heard the two actors trained for weeks before they shot the scene.
Easily one of the greatest, they all thought Hector had a chance against Achilles, heck I even did.......for a minute......then Bradd Pitt did a spear dance in the middle of the fight and..........well
This is a highly underrated film. It's quotable, has some of the coolest fight choreography, and it holds the line on being truly epic without feeling silly. Achilles presented as more of a Michael Jordan, rather than mythical demigod is just the right amount of sauce. Everything is a little more grounded for Homer epic. 👍👍
Agreed. But most of the scenes were very 'blocky', standard fare. There was very little drama in the camera angles and perspectives shown. It was too 'set piece' to be a great film.
check out Centurion! if you like Troy, brave heart, gladiator type movies check out Centurion with Michael Fassbender. It even has a grate beginning like Troy does. That is the most underrated of all underrated movies ever, that and Mr Brooks with Kevin Costner, thats a different type of movie but still way underrated!
Troy is still a great historical epic for me, and the duel between Hector and Achilles is still one of my all time favorite scenes. I prefer the director’s extended version, but favor the theatrical soundtrack.
unfortunately there is no history in this "historical epic". The looks are almost a thousand years too modern for example... more Persian Wars/Alexander era than 1250 BCE. And if you wanted to ditch the gods and religious aspects, why not actually go with greek Trojans and anatolian Hittites like the historical research favors?
@@Ugly_German_Truths Well, the Iliad isn't historical in itself- it's a saga developed hundreds of years after the events it's based on took place, and naturally reflects the culture of its own time more than the Bronze Age, which we know more about than the Greeks of say the ninth century did.
@@peterwyetzner5276 An absolutely valid point, but then again, if they wanted to depict a Trojan War as the later Greeks themselves imagined it, why throw out all the supernatural elements that were to the same Greeks an integral part of their story?
You did a great job on this. I was a stuntman on the movie and spotted myself a few times which brought back great memories. I was a young 28year old fairly new stuntman then and it blew my mind how massive this all was. Such fond memories. I screen grabbed some shots of myself and the stunties. I’ll be sending them some good pics. Regards Dan
And horners score in that scene is amazing. I also like how its implied that Achilles is spiritually protected without showing gods..in that scene achilles hurls his schield to his back and at that precise moment it blocks an arrow that would’ve killed him
"Troy" only years later gained the status it had always deserved. For me, this film has always been very underrated. I was also very happy with the director's cut.
@@Emy-fv5ny I disagree at least with Troy. adaptations need to make changes, and I enjoyed the movie. Besides DnD gave us 4 seasons of peak television, doesn't mean they didn't fuck it up in the end but hey
@@Emy-fv5ny but that's no argument for why making changes to a tousand year old poem is "f... other ppl's work". also you can say Im childish but 1. I didn't say anything about the movies quality only that I liked it 2. even if I had you didn't make a argument for why it's average regardless of weather it is or not. 3. if it was average that still means it worked as a movie which it wouldn't have without making changes and leaving things out
@@revengance4149 Nothing good comes from someone who doesn't respect the creators of the pieces of work he has to adapt and I don't need to mention the examples for prooving my case. As I don't need to make an argument about this movie. Do You like the movie? Great, good for you.
I always enjoyed Troy. There are decisions that might not rub some people the right way, but I think it was an entertaining and enjoyable movie. I'd always hoped for a "sequel" with Sean Bean reprising Odysseus in a retelling of the Odyssey.
Hoped for sequels? Well, I hate to tell you this: it's best to watch the filmmakers' extended version. Although "Troy" was an financial success it has earned an Academy Award nomination for Bob Ringwood's lavish costumes in 2005.
I'm surprised we didn't get an Odyssey with Sean Bean following Troy. The movie was a financial success and fans loved it. Troy followed up on the success of Gladiator and it was followed by Clash of the Titans and Percy Jackson 6 years later. 300 was also well received even if it was incredibly inaccurate. I'm really shocked they didn't trying to get the Odyssey out there by 2008. Troy really seemed to spark a Greek Mythology resurgence in theaters and letting Sean Bean headline would have been perfect since fans loved him as Odysseys and he was a huge draw after doing Clear and Present Danger, Goldeneye, and Lord of the Rings.
Due to its nature, The Odyssey would have been best told as a TV series. Who knows? If this had been made today after such series as Rome and Game of Thrones perhaps we woudl have seen a 1-2 season series of The Odyssey following on from Troy on one of the big streaming platforms. And Bean was the perfect casting as Odysseus.
I LOVE Troy and it’s definitely up there in the ranks for me when it comes to historical war epics. That opening “fight” with the big body builder dude was so badass and sets up Achilles character and mystique expertly!
@@batkhulegjargalsaikhan8497 The Iliad exists in the combination of mythology and history that was basically all history for millennia, just like say the Romance of the Three kingdoms does, there was a historical city of Troy, there was a war between allied Greek states and the city, the war became an epic of the oral tradition before becoming the Iliad as we know it today, it is neither fully history nor fully myth: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_the_Iliad
I absolutely loved Troy, Troy and Kingdom of Heaven (both starring Orlando Bloom) are so highly underrated. The vast battle scenes of Troyand the choreography make it unforgettable 15:17
The Director's Cut of Kingdom of Heaven is a masterpiece imo. The theatrical is fine. But man, I wish more people would see the Director's Cut and give it the credit it is due.
It’s a great testament to the greatness of Kingdom of Heaven The Directors Cut that Orloomo Bland does not really diminish the movie although LOTR managed with an even more monumental achievement of having the perfect part for him
@@mattzalot2576 oh no man, for me they are unforgettable, especially Kingdom of Heaven. I also got a lot of respect for films with sets and practical effects
I honestly never understand why this film gets so much hate. It was perfectly cast even down to the smaller roles. I was maybe 19 or 20 when it came out and when I first saw Diane Kruger I thought to myself “that is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen.”
Anachronisms and distortion of the moral and ethical values of Mycenaean society. Achilles was born in archaic Greece and not in Los Angeles. In addition to the completely wrong historical reconstruction. It is commonly accepted that the Trojan war happened circa 1200 BC, although the archaeological evidence and the astronomical information given by Homer point to about two thousand years earlier. During those times, Greece's cultural phase was the Minoan/Mycenean. The wall paintings in the Minoan and Mycenean palaces and the archaeological findings show us exactly what armor, shields and weaponry were used back then by Greeks. Instead, in the film we see slightly modified versions of weaponry of the Classical period. The same goes with naval vessels. Myceneans, Spartans, Minoans etc. did NOT have triremes
@ebenezer4107 I think most people will forgive inaccuracies if the movie is great, chariots of fire is a film I love but it's not totally accurate. The problem was it did seem to commercial, too Hollywood, trying to make it into more of a good v evil story is like trying to fit a round peg into a square hole with the source material. The romance between Helen and Paris was completely flat if we're honest and it just seemed too concerned with getting to the next action sequence. It comes off as more of an action movie than a proper historic epic movie.
I LOVE this film and most-SWORD and-SANDALS-films,enjoyed it from start to finish. GREAT fight scenes,especially armies against other armies.I didn't know about all the crazy things that happened during production tho,but, they pushed forward and finished it. SALUTE.
I love Troy, we should cherish all these historical epic movies like Alexander, Ben Hur, Braveheart, Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, Spartacus and Troy. You will not see movies like this again, filmed on film with no modern day social or political messaging. Epics that used practical sets, real stunt work, live action military battles, hammy acting and visceral violence.
Sword and Sandals will come back into style one day, However it absolutely will include.. -Women who can fight just as strong and badass as Achilles ok!! -Socialist utopia propaganda, - -White people-Evil,Cowardice / yellow brown black people-Heroic,Brave, Not a bad bone in their body perfect … And these tropes will continue until Hollywood goes bankrupt or something or someone rises to threaten Hollywood’s monopoly at the top #fuck2010+ Hollywood
"nah Alexander the Great is very accurate"@@Chris-yv2iv No they made him a whiney unhinged beta boy driven primarily by mother/father issues, who is clearly gay/bi (which is non-historical speculation, unproven), and who no army would ever follow. Colin Farrell is widely panned for his performance.
I loved the scene between O'Toole and Pitt. It was heartbreaking watching a father plead for the body of his dead son, so that he can put the coins on his eyes and offer him to the gods.
Sadly I remember watching this as a teen and this is the only movie I found Brad Pitt incredibly sexy. I never noticed the scene between the king and him until 2 days ago when I rewatched it again
Fun movie. Personally, I don't care if it was historically accurate or true to the book. I watch it for the entertainment value, not to prep for a college exam. But maybe that's just me.
I've read the Iliad and the movie simply improves on the book, there's no other way to say it. It'd impossible to adapt it faithfully and make a good movie. It's a book written around the 8th century b.C., there's no way it'd appeal to the public of today. The fatalism, the lengthy descriptions, the constant intertwining with the Olympus... All these things would be horrendous for a movie. The script took all the more dramatic pieces of the story and made a cohesive narrative adequate for the medium. Anyone who complains about the story either hasn't actually read the Iliad or knows nothing about cinema.
@@davidfernandez8515 Well of course Hollywood will make changes, its normal. This is a great popcorn movie that we shouldnt take it too seriously. Those kinda movies are like "Shut your brain and watch - movies" I liked the movie because its more grounded and there are no gods, but i will never tell that the movie improves the book... this is nonsense in many ways.
I get why Greek myth/historians don't like it due to the massively conpressedtimeline and some changes in motivations for some of the characters, but as a standalone film, I absolutely LOVE this movie.
The problem with Troy is the script by David fucking Benioff. There is just no depth to it. It’s all surface. The characters all go on and on saying this is the greatest war of all time. But do we actually see anything to make it great? Pitt nails it with his comment.
Exactly right, there is no depth within or between characters. I see no great love with Paris and Helen. There is nothing to indicate the scope of the war. Which lasted ten years. The film gives us information, but it doesn't make us feel anything.
Bro what, I didn't know this movie was "underrated" D: It's one of my childhood's classics! My only criticism is the lack of ""historical"" accuracy, but that's a curse all Trojan war movies/series seem to have. It's kinda funny because they go great lengths to invent or design new fantasy armors and weapons all while we literally know the exact type of armor and weapons that the Bronce Age Mycenaeans used to wear. Same with the story, why they always invent something entirely new? Bruh you literally have the Iliad and Quintus of Smyrna's "Posthomerica". It's way more difficult and costly to brainstorm new ideas and scripts than to just follow the d4mn books!
Peter O'Toole & Julie Christie's casting was a nice throwback to the classic epics, Lawrence Of Arabia and Doctor Zhivago. Wolfgang Petersen definitely had the spirit and clearly wanted to make a great epic himself, even if some of its own cast had their problems with it.
"Men are haunted by the vastness of eternity. And so we ask ourselves: will our actions echo across the centuries? Will strangers hear our names long after we are gone, and wonder who we were, how bravely we fought, how fiercely we loved?" Epic.
Thank you for putting the salaries of the extras in contrast to the ridiculous amounts the stars made. Troy is an amazing and immensely watchable epic. The production quality is very high, made in a time without fatiguing amounts of bad CGI. Of course, most of the casting choices are ridiculous for ancient greek/turkish people, but they used the right faces for the right characters. Brian Cox and Brandan Gleeson are perfect for their respective roles.
@@albertofernandez2490 no, but Trojans, citizens of a place that was arguably located somewhere in todays country of Turkey. The point being, most likely very few of the participants in a Trojan war would have looked like Brendan Gleeson, Diane Kruger or Brad Pitt. But it’s a work of a time with way less sensibility for these topics.
Disagree with you saying Troy isn't viewed as a good movie. Most people I've talked to loved Troy even more than 300 or Gladiator. Which are more appropriate comparisons that those other films you listed.
I'm a fan of the flick and revisit it at least once a year. Although the version I revisit at least once a year is the Director's Cut, which I prefer. That said, I don't remember ever disliking the Theatrical version, just that the additional scenes and character development strengthened the epic nature of such a story.
I remember reading the Iliad when i was in High School. Troy for me gives a down to earth version of the story. It makes the characters more human with no mystical interferance. Despite of the problems and unwillingness Brad Pitt had in the movie, His portrayal of Achilles was just a perfect fit.
Dude this movie will forever be remembered as a masterpiece. I've bonded over this movie with fellow 90s kids, never met a single person i didn't like that enjoyed troy lol
In my opinion this isn’t just a fantastic grand epic historical movie but one of the absolute best the sets are fantastic the acting is superb and i do my best to rewatch this movie at least once a year which is something i only do with my top 15 fav movies of all time
I love this movie, I watched it first as a kid and it was part of my childhood always pretended while playing in the woods with my friends to be Achilles lol
Gladiator, Troy, Braveheart, The Last Samurai - I've seen these movies countless times, absolute masterpieces IMO and infinitely rewatchable. And all of these movies have wonderful soundtracks.
The movie holds up. It's easily in my Top 5 for Historical Dramas; right up there with Braveheart, Gladiator, The Patriot, and 13th Warrior. Honourable mentions: the Guy Ritchie King Arthur movie, A Knight's Tale and Last Of The Mohicans. These are in no particular order.
For me it is because Patroclus was not Achille's lover. They are one of the best couples in history and he was relegated to a younger relative of Achilles :( When we visited Troy this year, the tour guide made many mentions of the importance of this couple which was nice to hear. The movie set Trojan horse is featured prominently in the city center and was awesome to see!
I remember being so excited to see this movie! And the first combat scene was so amazing! No playing around, just rushing in for the kill first chance. I was a little disappointed in the story line, wishing they had stayed closer to the original. But what really turned me off were the following battles and duels, especially the "Saving Privat Ryan" beach landing. No. Just no. Despite the precedent set by the first duel, the rest of the fights look carefully choreographed dances. Instead of just going in for the kill, they show off some extremely ridiculous moves that would have got them killed instantly if the other combatant hadn't agreed to play their game. I left so disappointed. If only they had read the book. War is not glorified there. It's heroes challenging each other, mostly scared out of their wits but pushed by their sense of honour and pride. and then trying to kill with spears and rocks. Yeah, a lot of rocks get thrown. Then more people will rush in to try claim the body, and more importatnly, the armour. If all goes well, they may push further, trying to kill retreating enemies since that's safer than trying to kill men holding their ground. So yeah, Brad Pitt was right. "Here's the hero!!!!". Could have been so epic, but instead it was crap with pretty packaging.
People can say whatever they want about this movie, and sure there are a lot of historical mistakes, but I love this movie and I will never get tired of seeing it!
What happened behind the scene is just interesting side notes. The movie itself is grand and epic. I watched it several times and was deeply satisfied each time. Thank to all the people involved and especially to Wolfgang Petersen
Troy is actually one of my favorite movies and has been since it first came out. I'm a sucker for anything Greek history related, but in my opinion it still holds up really well.
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I had this movie on VHS and used to watch it constantly. The music at the beach landing scene was EPIC. Also, the irony of a movie where the vast majority of characters die, yet Sean Bean survives.
the only thing I remember is two armies stopped fighting "for the day" when a kid got killed or something. I never got over the ridiculousness of that :)
@@interdimensionalsteve8172 That's because you're a dunce.
I enjoy the film but reminds me of a aftershave ad
nobody asked
@@stellviahohenheim shoo, shoo
The fight scene between Brad Pitt and Eric Bana was one of the best sword duels ever put to film. I heard the two actors trained for weeks before they shot the scene.
You don’t say
Easily one of the greatest, they all thought Hector had a chance against Achilles, heck I even did.......for a minute......then Bradd Pitt did a spear dance in the middle of the fight and..........well
It's true. They also had a gentleman's bet for accidental hits. Eric Banah didn't owe Brad Pitt a thing....Brad Pitt however. Hahaha
@@frankrabbit2247 So what they said in the video, then? Wow.
@empirate100 to be honest, wrote that before I got to that part of the video.
Absolutely love it. Everyone is great in it, but Eric Bana as Hector steals the show.
Which i thought they wanted Orlando Bloom to do... whose role was cut just a tiny bit too much to have any such effect.
I love Bana, Chopper is one of my favorite films. But his Aussie accent constantly comes out. Doesn't bother me, it happens though
The moment Bana died I was ready to walk out. It was obviously going to be downhill from there.
HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@petel5781you didn’t read _the Iliad_ then? It’s the one thing that was actually accurate in this movie.
I really liked Troy. The Peter O’Toole scene with Pitt, asking for his son’s body back was my favorite scene.
In the Iliad this is the last chapter.
"I loved my son from the moment he opened his eyes until the moment you closed them."
Masterpiece scene, captures brilliantly the empathy developed along the epic battle between the heroes of both armies
That is literally the finale of the Iliad.
peter o tool best performance is The lion in the winter and Lawrence of arabia
This is a highly underrated film. It's quotable, has some of the coolest fight choreography, and it holds the line on being truly epic without feeling silly. Achilles presented as more of a Michael Jordan, rather than mythical demigod is just the right amount of sauce. Everything is a little more grounded for Homer epic. 👍👍
Damn Straight
Brad did... okay as Achilles.
Agreed.
But most of the scenes were very 'blocky', standard fare.
There was very little drama in the camera angles and perspectives shown.
It was too 'set piece' to be a great film.
Every minute is amazin'
check out Centurion! if you like Troy, brave heart, gladiator type movies check out Centurion with Michael Fassbender. It even has a grate beginning like Troy does. That is the most underrated of all underrated movies ever, that and Mr Brooks with Kevin Costner, thats a different type of movie but still way underrated!
The buildup leading to the duel between Hector and Achilles and then the actual quality of the duel itself make it possibly the best ever filmed.
Troy is still a great historical epic for me, and the duel between Hector and Achilles is still one of my all time favorite scenes. I prefer the director’s extended version, but favor the theatrical soundtrack.
unfortunately there is no history in this "historical epic". The looks are almost a thousand years too modern for example... more Persian Wars/Alexander era than 1250 BCE. And if you wanted to ditch the gods and religious aspects, why not actually go with greek Trojans and anatolian Hittites like the historical research favors?
@@Ugly_German_Truths Well, the Iliad isn't historical in itself- it's a saga developed hundreds of years after the events it's based on took place, and naturally reflects the culture of its own time more than the Bronze Age, which we know more about than the Greeks of say the ninth century did.
Yeah, the video makes it sound like this was some kind of absolute disaster in all aspects, but the end result is a great and entertaining flick.
@@peterwyetzner5276 An absolutely valid point, but then again, if they wanted to depict a Trojan War as the later Greeks themselves imagined it, why throw out all the supernatural elements that were to the same Greeks an integral part of their story?
Troy is not based on history, its a myth 😂
Mongol empire is history kid...
You did a great job on this. I was a stuntman on the movie and spotted myself a few times which brought back great memories. I was a young 28year old fairly new stuntman then and it blew my mind how massive this all was. Such fond memories. I screen grabbed some shots of myself and the stunties. I’ll be sending them some good pics. Regards Dan
This is literally my favorite movie of all time. Idk how anyone can not like it or find it memorable
Same bro. My top three for me too
It’s different than the Iliad
Man that beach battle scene. Especially the climax when Achilles was going up the stairs killing everyone in his path… that was epic as hell.
And horners score in that scene is amazing. I also like how its implied that Achilles is spiritually protected without showing gods..in that scene achilles hurls his schield to his back and at that precise moment it blocks an arrow that would’ve killed him
"Troy" only years later gained the status it had always deserved. For me, this film has always been very underrated. I was also very happy with the director's cut.
Finding out David Benioff wrote Troy makes so much sense
"If that meant that I was cheating on Homer then so be it" Benioff was born to f... other ppl's works.
@@Emy-fv5ny I disagree at least with Troy. adaptations need to make changes, and I enjoyed the movie. Besides DnD gave us 4 seasons of peak television, doesn't mean they didn't fuck it up in the end but hey
@@revengance4149 Also, the movie is not good just because YOU like it, that's childish.
The movie is average.
@@Emy-fv5ny but that's no argument for why making changes to a tousand year old poem is "f... other ppl's work". also you can say Im childish but
1. I didn't say anything about the movies quality only that I liked it
2. even if I had you didn't make a argument for why it's average regardless of weather it is or not.
3. if it was average that still means it worked as a movie which it wouldn't have without making changes and leaving things out
@@revengance4149 Nothing good comes from someone who doesn't respect the creators of the pieces of work he has to adapt and I don't need to mention the examples for prooving my case.
As I don't need to make an argument about this movie. Do You like the movie? Great, good for you.
I always enjoyed Troy. There are decisions that might not rub some people the right way, but I think it was an entertaining and enjoyable movie. I'd always hoped for a "sequel" with Sean Bean reprising Odysseus in a retelling of the Odyssey.
Hoped for sequels? Well, I hate to tell you this: it's best to watch the filmmakers' extended version. Although "Troy" was an financial success
it has earned an Academy Award nomination for Bob Ringwood's lavish costumes in 2005.
I'm surprised we didn't get an Odyssey with Sean Bean following Troy. The movie was a financial success and fans loved it. Troy followed up on the success of Gladiator and it was followed by Clash of the Titans and Percy Jackson 6 years later. 300 was also well received even if it was incredibly inaccurate. I'm really shocked they didn't trying to get the Odyssey out there by 2008. Troy really seemed to spark a Greek Mythology resurgence in theaters and letting Sean Bean headline would have been perfect since fans loved him as Odysseys and he was a huge draw after doing Clear and Present Danger, Goldeneye, and Lord of the Rings.
Due to its nature, The Odyssey would have been best told as a TV series. Who knows? If this had been made today after such series as Rome and Game of Thrones perhaps we woudl have seen a 1-2 season series of The Odyssey following on from Troy on one of the big streaming platforms. And Bean was the perfect casting as Odysseus.
True.@@jarrodbright5231
@@jarrodbright5231 It is was made today then unfortunately they would make half the characters black and probably force lots of woke rubbish into it.
Great movies especially the duel with Achilles and Hector, the emotion by all actors including the observers and even the choreography was awesome
I LOVE Troy and it’s definitely up there in the ranks for me when it comes to historical war epics. That opening “fight” with the big body builder dude was so badass and sets up Achilles character and mystique expertly!
Again, Troy is not based on history, its a myth. Mongol Empire, Alexander the Great is history
@@batkhulegjargalsaikhan8497 The Iliad exists in the combination of mythology and history that was basically all history for millennia, just like say the Romance of the Three kingdoms does, there was a historical city of Troy, there was a war between allied Greek states and the city, the war became an epic of the oral tradition before becoming the Iliad as we know it today, it is neither fully history nor fully myth:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_the_Iliad
I absolutely loved Troy, Troy and Kingdom of Heaven (both starring Orlando Bloom) are so highly underrated. The vast battle scenes of Troyand the choreography make it unforgettable 15:17
Kingdom of Heaven directors cut DVD
The Director's Cut of Kingdom of Heaven is a masterpiece imo. The theatrical is fine. But man, I wish more people would see the Director's Cut and give it the credit it is due.
It’s a great testament to the greatness of Kingdom of Heaven The Directors Cut that Orloomo Bland does not really diminish the movie although LOTR managed with an even more monumental achievement of having the perfect part for him
So weird
I consider both of those movies to be bloated, forgettable, and not nearly worth their inflated budgets
@@mattzalot2576 oh no man, for me they are unforgettable, especially Kingdom of Heaven. I also got a lot of respect for films with sets and practical effects
One of the few movies I own on DVD and at least watch once a year. Really good.
Just once? You should watch it once every week.
Yes, it is very rewatchable. Definitely in top 10 for epics.
Facts!!!!
The directors cut is super bloody. It's like 30 minutes more and it's all gore.
I honestly never understand why this film gets so much hate. It was perfectly cast even down to the smaller roles. I was maybe 19 or 20 when it came out and when I first saw Diane Kruger I thought to myself “that is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen.”
Anachronisms and distortion of the moral and ethical values of Mycenaean society. Achilles was born in archaic Greece and not in Los Angeles.
In addition to the completely wrong historical reconstruction.
It is commonly accepted that the Trojan war happened circa 1200 BC, although the archaeological evidence and the astronomical information given by Homer point to about two thousand years earlier.
During those times, Greece's cultural phase was the Minoan/Mycenean. The wall paintings in the Minoan and Mycenean palaces and the archaeological findings show us exactly what armor, shields and weaponry were used back then by Greeks. Instead, in the film we see slightly modified versions of weaponry of the Classical period. The same goes with naval vessels. Myceneans, Spartans, Minoans etc. did NOT have triremes
@ebenezer4107 I think most people will forgive inaccuracies if the movie is great, chariots of fire is a film I love but it's not totally accurate. The problem was it did seem to commercial, too Hollywood, trying to make it into more of a good v evil story is like trying to fit a round peg into a square hole with the source material. The romance between Helen and Paris was completely flat if we're honest and it just seemed too concerned with getting to the next action sequence. It comes off as more of an action movie than a proper historic epic movie.
I think it was just overhyped at the time and people got annoyed
I love the movie. It's my favorite Brad Pitt movie plus it had an all-star cast. It's my favorite interpretation of the Greek Story.
Do you watch it at least once every day?
@@justicierodelaliga No, but I've seen some of it a few weeks ago on sci-fi
I LOVE this film and most-SWORD and-SANDALS-films,enjoyed it from start to finish. GREAT fight scenes,especially armies against other armies.I didn't know about all the crazy things that happened during production tho,but, they pushed forward and finished it. SALUTE.
@@kerry-j4m Exactly. It's a very well shot movie. The cast is absolutely fantastic and Brad Pitt shines as Achilles.
@@flyguy7825 AGREED. Live Long and Prosper.
For one reason or another, Troy just feels special, and will always remain special to me.
I love Troy, we should cherish all these historical epic movies like Alexander, Ben Hur, Braveheart, Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, Spartacus and Troy. You will not see movies like this again, filmed on film with no modern day social or political messaging. Epics that used practical sets, real stunt work, live action military battles, hammy acting and visceral violence.
Sword and Sandals will come back into style one day,
However it absolutely will include..
-Women who can fight just as strong and badass as Achilles ok!!
-Socialist utopia propaganda, -
-White people-Evil,Cowardice / yellow brown black people-Heroic,Brave, Not a bad bone in their body perfect … And these tropes will continue until Hollywood goes bankrupt or something or someone rises to threaten Hollywood’s monopoly at the top #fuck2010+ Hollywood
We won't see movies like them again because they were all garbage movies with bad writing and over inflated budgets
Big NO to Alexander. That movie was the "Ridley Scott's Napoleon" of its time. But otherwise, I agree!!
@@punchforpound2808nah Alexander the Great is very accurate what are you talking about? I love the movie I like Troy also.
"nah Alexander the Great is very accurate"@@Chris-yv2iv
No they made him a whiney unhinged beta boy driven primarily by mother/father issues, who is clearly gay/bi (which is non-historical speculation, unproven), and who no army would ever follow. Colin Farrell is widely panned for his performance.
I loved the scene between O'Toole and Pitt. It was heartbreaking watching a father plead for the body of his dead son, so that he can put the coins on his eyes and offer him to the gods.
Sadly I remember watching this as a teen and this is the only movie I found Brad Pitt incredibly sexy. I never noticed the scene between the king and him until 2 days ago when I rewatched it again
Fun movie. Personally, I don't care if it was historically accurate or true to the book. I watch it for the entertainment value, not to prep for a college exam. But maybe that's just me.
This is exactly what i thought about Ridley Scott's Napoleon
There was a book??
(jk)
I've read the Iliad and the movie simply improves on the book, there's no other way to say it. It'd impossible to adapt it faithfully and make a good movie. It's a book written around the 8th century b.C., there's no way it'd appeal to the public of today. The fatalism, the lengthy descriptions, the constant intertwining with the Olympus... All these things would be horrendous for a movie. The script took all the more dramatic pieces of the story and made a cohesive narrative adequate for the medium.
Anyone who complains about the story either hasn't actually read the Iliad or knows nothing about cinema.
@@davidfernandez8515iunno I've always wanted to see Diomedes with a battle aura like an anime character as described in the text lol
@@davidfernandez8515 Well of course Hollywood will make changes, its normal. This is a great popcorn movie that we shouldnt take it too seriously. Those kinda movies are like "Shut your brain and watch - movies"
I liked the movie because its more grounded and there are no gods, but i will never tell that the movie improves the book... this is nonsense in many ways.
I get why Greek myth/historians don't like it due to the massively conpressedtimeline and some changes in motivations for some of the characters, but as a standalone film, I absolutely LOVE this movie.
The problem with Troy is the script by David fucking Benioff. There is just no depth to it. It’s all surface. The characters all go on and on saying this is the greatest war of all time. But do we actually see anything to make it great? Pitt nails it with his comment.
lol sadly I enjoyed it for the Brad Pitt eye * candy
Exactly right, there is no depth within or between characters.
I see no great love with Paris and Helen. There is nothing to indicate the scope of the war. Which lasted ten years.
The film gives us information, but it doesn't make us feel anything.
Troy is a great blockbuster. Saw it my last days of senior year in High School during English class back in 05. Awesome memories.
I love this movie: - the power of Achilles, the braveness of hector - and the coolness of Odysseus!
This is one of my all time favorite movies. Had it on VHS and now on DVD. This movie is criminally underrated
I just watched the directors cut a few weeks back. This movie was phenomenal. I think most people enjoyed this film.
I loved that movie. And I still do.
Pitt gave us the definitive Achilles (and there is no one else!) and Bana was amazing as Hector.
It doesn't do the source material justice, but that fight between Bana and Pitt was rad.
That's to be expected from a movie trying to compress a whole war into 2,5 hours of screenplay.
Still one of my favourite movies ever.. watched it many times, it's always entertaining like the first time
Bro what, I didn't know this movie was "underrated" D: It's one of my childhood's classics! My only criticism is the lack of ""historical"" accuracy, but that's a curse all Trojan war movies/series seem to have. It's kinda funny because they go great lengths to invent or design new fantasy armors and weapons all while we literally know the exact type of armor and weapons that the Bronce Age Mycenaeans used to wear.
Same with the story, why they always invent something entirely new? Bruh you literally have the Iliad and Quintus of Smyrna's "Posthomerica". It's way more difficult and costly to brainstorm new ideas and scripts than to just follow the d4mn books!
10:16 Boagrius is not a Trojan warrior, he was a Thessalonian. He is the best fighter of King Triopas of Thessaly.
I watch this movie at least once a year. The directors cut is even better.
The way the movie shows both armies equally makes it that much more compelling. Still holds up IMO
The fight between Hector and Achilles was the best fight scene in a long time
TROY is literally one of my top 10 favorite movies....... It a surely reached its rank as box office hit 💯
Troy is actually one of my favorite movies we need movies like this again with real actors.
“Look at his face when he lands”
Let me just put a ton of text right over his face I told you to look at
Peter O'Toole & Julie Christie's casting was a nice throwback to the classic epics, Lawrence Of Arabia and Doctor Zhivago. Wolfgang Petersen definitely had the spirit and clearly wanted to make a great epic himself, even if some of its own cast had their problems with it.
Troy is amazing and I’ll continue to watch it again and again, while I’ll avoid Braveheart like the plague.
Troy and Kingdom of Heaven get far too much undeserved flak. Both of them are massively underrated films.
The directors cut of Kingdom of Heaven is a very good film.
This was a great movie. I remember if I was ever flipping thru channels back in the day and it was on, I'd watch it every single time.
It didn't try to be anything other than what it was and it worked. One of my favorite movies.
"Men are haunted by the vastness of eternity. And so we ask ourselves: will our actions echo across the centuries? Will strangers hear our names long after we are gone, and wonder who we were, how bravely we fought, how fiercely we loved?" Epic.
i love the battle with hector and achilles. I remember watching this movie as a kid with my fam and secretly rooting for the greeks😬
Loved the biographical masterpiece Troy. Who doesnt? Excellent acting by all involved.
Thank you for putting the salaries of the extras in contrast to the ridiculous amounts the stars made.
Troy is an amazing and immensely watchable epic. The production quality is very high, made in a time without fatiguing amounts of bad CGI. Of course, most of the casting choices are ridiculous for ancient greek/turkish people, but they used the right faces for the right characters. Brian Cox and Brandan Gleeson are perfect for their respective roles.
there were no Turkish people there in 800 BCE
@@albertofernandez2490 no, but Trojans, citizens of a place that was arguably located somewhere in todays country of Turkey. The point being, most likely very few of the participants in a Trojan war would have looked like Brendan Gleeson, Diane Kruger or Brad Pitt. But it’s a work of a time with way less sensibility for these topics.
@@nealandkriz do you understand that Turkish people stated migrating to Asia Minor 2000 years after The Iliad was written?
@@albertofernandez2490 I did not know that. Thank you for educating me on this, still completely missing the point of the original post
@@nealandkriz how should they look then? like Turkish people who weren't there for another 2000 years?
Disagree with you saying Troy isn't viewed as a good movie. Most people I've talked to loved Troy even more than 300 or Gladiator. Which are more appropriate comparisons that those other films you listed.
I'm a fan of the flick and revisit it at least once a year. Although the version I revisit at least once a year is the Director's Cut, which I prefer. That said, I don't remember ever disliking the Theatrical version, just that the additional scenes and character development strengthened the epic nature of such a story.
I remember reading the Iliad when i was in High School. Troy for me gives a down to earth version of the story. It makes the characters more human with no mystical interferance. Despite of the problems and unwillingness Brad Pitt had in the movie, His portrayal of Achilles was just a perfect fit.
Nothing happened to it. The dvd is still on my shelf
This is my family’s movie. It’s the one we would ALL sit to watch it again and again every summer 🥹
how would watch the adult scenes with family lol
@ it was awkward the first times I guess but now we don’t mind. I always wonder how families watch game for thrones though, I can’t imagine in mine 😅
RIP Wolfgang Petersen
Troy was FANTASTIC! And they play it on TV all the time…
What about it has been forgotten?!?
Oh there's a director cut. I did not know that. 😮
I'm getting it for sure
Dude this movie will forever be remembered as a masterpiece. I've bonded over this movie with fellow 90s kids, never met a single person i didn't like that enjoyed troy lol
In my opinion this isn’t just a fantastic grand epic historical movie but one of the absolute best the sets are fantastic the acting is superb and i do my best to rewatch this movie at least once a year which is something i only do with my top 15 fav movies of all time
Troy is not historcal movie, its just a good mythical entertaining movie. Mongol Empire, Alexander the Great are history
One of my favorite movies of all time. So underrated.
I love this movie, I watched it first as a kid and it was part of my childhood always pretended while playing in the woods with my friends to be Achilles lol
Directors cut is fantastic and one of my favourite epics. I try to watch it every other year.
Gladiator, Troy, Braveheart, The Last Samurai - I've seen these movies countless times, absolute masterpieces IMO and infinitely rewatchable. And all of these movies have wonderful soundtracks.
Literally one of my favorite, most underrated historical epics ever. I love it. It's just so good
Troy is not based on history. Mongol Empire, Alexander the Great are history
Really?? Anyone I talk to about Troy has nothing but good things to say about the film. Especially Eric Bana’s performance
I would rewatch this masterpiece hundreds of times back in the day
How hard can it be to pronounce “Das Boot” correctly?!
Troy is one of my favourite movies ever! It’s forgotten because it doesn’t insist upon itself like most epic historical movies
I liked it a lot.
The movie holds up. It's easily in my Top 5 for Historical Dramas; right up there with Braveheart, Gladiator, The Patriot, and 13th Warrior. Honourable mentions: the Guy Ritchie King Arthur movie, A Knight's Tale and Last Of The Mohicans.
These are in no particular order.
I liked it quite a bit
forgotten? dude its in my mind living rent free for decades
For me it is because Patroclus was not Achille's lover. They are one of the best couples in history and he was relegated to a younger relative of Achilles :( When we visited Troy this year, the tour guide made many mentions of the importance of this couple which was nice to hear. The movie set Trojan horse is featured prominently in the city center and was awesome to see!
Patroclus is not Achilles's lover in the Iliad, that is literally made up.
Gay
Literally have seen it a couple hundred times, it's my all-time favorite movie
IT'S YOURS TAKE IT !!!!!!
One of the movies ive rewatched time and again. Never met anyone who didnt like it.
Troy: The Director's Cut is objectively one of the best movies ever made. Period.
When I think of historical epics I love and can rewatch pretty much anytime, Troy definitely tops my own list, no matter what anyone says.
Troy is not based on history, its a myth. Mongol Empire, Alexander the Great are history
@@batkhulegjargalsaikhan8497 Details, details.
Chopper wasn't a prison drama, its was a semi auto Biographical movie which had scenes within prison at varying times
Best childhood movie
I remember being so excited to see this movie! And the first combat scene was so amazing! No playing around, just rushing in for the kill first chance. I was a little disappointed in the story line, wishing they had stayed closer to the original.
But what really turned me off were the following battles and duels, especially the "Saving Privat Ryan" beach landing. No. Just no. Despite the precedent set by the first duel, the rest of the fights look carefully choreographed dances. Instead of just going in for the kill, they show off some extremely ridiculous moves that would have got them killed instantly if the other combatant hadn't agreed to play their game.
I left so disappointed. If only they had read the book. War is not glorified there. It's heroes challenging each other, mostly scared out of their wits but pushed by their sense of honour and pride. and then trying to kill with spears and rocks. Yeah, a lot of rocks get thrown. Then more people will rush in to try claim the body, and more importatnly, the armour. If all goes well, they may push further, trying to kill retreating enemies since that's safer than trying to kill men holding their ground.
So yeah, Brad Pitt was right. "Here's the hero!!!!". Could have been so epic, but instead it was crap with pretty packaging.
I didn’t know that this wasn’t a huge movie until I watched this video lol. This is one of my favorite movies!
People can say whatever they want about this movie, and sure there are a lot of historical mistakes, but I love this movie and I will never get tired of seeing it!
“Historical mistakes”? This is based on fiction, not non-fiction. It’s all made up for the most part. Even Homer.
@@JK-vc7ie Sorry I meant to say close to the source material
@@sd659 Fair enough
In my personal life most people I’ve encountered know of this movie. And it stands as one of my favorites, so definitely not forgotten imo
What happened behind the scene is just interesting side notes. The movie itself is grand and epic. I watched it several times and was deeply satisfied each time. Thank to all the people involved and especially to Wolfgang Petersen
Oh boy! My uncle introduced me to this masterpiece. We would sit by the fire and recite the script! Epic days!😊
I absolutely love Troy, it's one of those movies I could always rewatch.
Your opening monologue is news to me. Troy has Always been a top 10 all time film for me.
James Horner's score for Troy stands as one of the most beautiful, emotional and powerful soundtracks ever composed for a movie.
I loved this movie so much. It’s sad the people behind it didn’t.
One of my all time favorite movies. I thought Banna's career was going to sky rocket after this.
❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥One of the hardest movies ever made. Troy and Kingdom of Heaven. That was my 2000s
Troy is definitely a film I rewatch every now and again.
I’d rank it higher than braveheart or gladiator
One of my favorite movies. I watched this so many times as a kid on VHS when it came out.
Was 18 going on 19 when I went with my family to see it - undeniably one of the big-screen events of my early young adulthood.
Troy is actually one of my favorite movies and has been since it first came out. I'm a sucker for anything Greek history related, but in my opinion it still holds up really well.
This was my favorite movie when I was a kid ! Still has a place in my top 5 ever
Love to see these comments. I saw this movie in theaters and have LOVED it ever since.
Wow the treatment of the extras just wow. This will forever mar my view of this movie.
Troy is the best movie about Greek mythology ever done. I don’t care what anybody has to say. I’ve watched all of them. It’s the best one hands-down.