The Jones Mountain Twin Snowboard Review 2020
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2019
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Bought this month ago after watching your review. Your review was spot on. Very playful, easy to go from toe to heel, vice versa, little vibrations at high speed on groomed snow but very stable, carves really good. The graphics are good too. Thanks!
Just bought last years model. I’m a beginner and in the past I’ve rented, but I fell in love with snow boarding. I’m definitely an all mountain rider I love carving and jumping and also pow. But I also want to get into freestyle riding a little bit too. Definitely excited to hit the slopes this Christmas break with my new board.
the more I learn the more I understand your lingo, I've watched the goliath review for 20 times by now, it's a user manual that never came with the board, damn, you're good xD
Agreed, on everything, except I haven’t ridden the 2020 model yet so can’t comment on softer flex.
I will say, when I put people on this board last year, men or women, they bought it almost every time. I would say my highest demo-to-purchase ratio in shop.
This vs Capital Mercury?
5'8 200 lbs 11 boot .
what size right for me
@@redartisanwolf6716 im 5'11, 180 lbs and got a 160cm, perfect size and such a smooth board
I have just buy it, I love it
Hi, i was riding classic camber for some yars, now looking for update, thanking about mountain twin or burton custom flying v, a bit afraid that flying v might be unstable, my day usually just going downhill, sometimes a bit off piste, but i would like to learn some basic tricks like 180, would you suggest Mountain twin? Or flv? And what size would be the best 183cm 78kg
Very nice board that I don't want to miss on the mountain! and a beautiful design! just awesome! it's actually how you describe it. Poppy and the board will catapult you out of the turn. at high speed the board does not flutter.
Woo, that's beautiful!
You're beautiful dan.
Got a Yes Typo 2018, but I just saw it's too small. Looking at getting something different on a larger size. Would you say the Jones MT is stiffer than the Typo?
OH yeah.
Has anything changed in the 2020 Aviator from its previous model?
I don't believe so.
What would you advise for an intermediate boarder looking for an all mountain board with a preference for freestyle? I know you hate the Skate banana, but i am indecisive for a while now on these three boards: Lib tech Skate Banana, Jones mountain twin and the Ride Machete (all wide 158/159 and models of current season). As a skateboarder the skate banana looks tempting, but i think in the long run the mountain twin is more versatile. Thanks dudeeee
Go buy the Skatebanana and then find out how much a pile of shit it truly is. Either get the Ride Machete or go check out something else like a DC PBJ or PLY, Rome Buckshot or Agent.
In your opinion if you had to choose between the Rome Ravine or the Jones mountain twin which would you pick? (I know they are kinda different but I’ve seen both of your reviews on them they both look convincing) I definitely like to carve more but occasionally will hit jump or two. I have a ride helix rn which is nice but not exactly for powder or slush in my opinion.
Sounds like a Ravine would suit you better.
I'm grabbing a new all mountain deck, something for a little bit of everything on days I dont know what to ride or when there is some pow but also a groomer/maybe a bit of park day. My park board is a 154 ipp honalee, freeride 159 gnu müllair, pow/trees is a 154 jones mind expander. I have an old NS proto type two(157) and funsliger 153 for all mountain and park respectively that I really dont like either of those anymore. My local shop said I can trade those boards in and they will give me a new one. They have a 157 Rome Ravine and a couple of these mountain twins that I'm interested in. Which one should I bite on? Looking to lay a trench, slash pow, and maybe play in the park a little bit when i dont want to bring more than one board to the mountain.
Thanks for all work Angry!
Mountain Twin will be the most versatile.
Do you prefer this or the mercury capita? i have a flagship already for the deep days and wanna mix it up
Mercury all day every day.
Hey I am intermediated I ride 5 vacations (6 days each) and I am looking for one board do it all terrain,pow,little jumps
But most I want to feel
Stable on speed but also easy to ride and forgiven with one to buy Jones MT, Eviltwin, twin pig or some other suggestions?
hey man. if you not going to the park, than go for the Jones MT (2018) is a little bit stifer but more stable. i have it and used it last year and had a great time. maby you can get it a little cheaper to.
Ive got a mountain twin which Ive had for about 5 years. absolutely love it. powder and piste primarily. any advantage to having this newer board or worth looking elsewhere? cheers
It's not broken in, they changed the flex pattern on it, updated materials.
@@AngrySnowboarder ok cheers. so worth changing?
Your call.
Hey thanks for all your efforts. Moving from a k2 raygun and looking at this, the algorhythm and mercury. 200lb, 5'7, mainly carving groomers, dabble in park, jumps and backcountry. Looking for stability, easy carve and forgiving but can charge hard as I progress. Recommendations between the 3, and size? Ty.
The Mercury would be the best option for what you're describing.
@@AngrySnowboarder thanks mate. 8.5 boot size at 200lbs, what do u reckon size wise?
59.
I just saw Jones are updating the shape of this for 2021 model and a new "3d contour base" which might be a bit like their version of 3bt shaping. Prefer the new 2021 graphic too. But yeah...trying to choose between the MT, Capita Mercury & Bataleon Magic Carpet for a twin board to fck around on. the Bataleon is the odd one out there I know, but the soft flex and the fact that its a twin designed for pow still appeal... I want to progress/improve with jumps/sidehits/booters and butters.. which of those 3 would you recommend? All mountain freestyle basically...
Get a Mercury.
@@AngrySnowboarder Thanks dude. Was kinda leaning that way.. I know you love it! Although you said you love the Asymulator more? But its more freestyle niche and less good for pow and as allrounder? I saw next year's Asym deck is blacked out sexiness tho!
Can you get a decent euro carve on the mountain twin?
I can, don't know about you.
hey, making decision between this one and arbor foundation. which one is better for more advanced?
Well the Arbor Foundation is for beginners so...
Yo, trying to decide between the Yes Standard and the Jones mtn twin for my 2nd snowboard (already have a 154cm lobster park board so looking to get a more all mountain thing/ better for off piste). I love zooming about popping off side hits n few butters here n there but also looking to get into powder riding a lot more this year. Any advice? (ps im 6,1 and size 10)
I would probably go with the Standard as you'll end up with a bit more overlap with the MT and Park Board.
@@AngrySnowboarder Would you still say that even though i am considering the 21 models as the 21 mtn twin has that new spoon technology for better float in powder? i thought the mtn twin was more freeride flavoured and the yes standard more freestyle flavoured but your saying its the reverse?
Which has stiffer center flex Mt Twin or Capita Mercury?
MT.
I've been riding the Jones Explorer 156 all previous season. It's almost perfect, but I would add just a little more stiffness and stability to it. Should I try the Mountain Twin 157? How do you compare MT with Explorer?
That is the next logical progression in the Jones line. You're going to get a more twin shape, and little more aggressive of a ride, stiffer flex.
@@AngrySnowboarder Thanks!
Great Review! I've ridden the Flagship for the last couple years, but am looking for something that's a little easier to ride switch, butter, and ollie. Still want it to carver really well and hold it's own in the chunder and POW. Sounds like you prefer the Capita Mercury. Any reason for me to go with the MT, based on what I'm looking for? Thanks Avran!
It makes a logical sense to go down to the MT over the Mercury as you're looking for something more soft and forgiving. I also think the MT busts through Chunder better.
@@AngrySnowboarder Thanks!
@@AngrySnowboarder wait, so the Mercury is stiffer? just noticed above you mentioned the MT had the stiffer center flex and tips
@@nickwoodward819 No
Hey Angry, awesome review! You've sold me on this board for this years model. I was wondering if you could give some advice on size. I'm 5"8, 135lbs, size 8.5 boots and fall right in the middle of the (151 cm) length, or could go with the (154 cm) and be at the bottom end (light) size for that board. I want to be able to throw the board around at the resort, jibs, butters, some park, but also be able to take it through pow when I get the chance. Any feedback on this would be great, thanks again for the reviews.
Get the 51 and when the snows deep set your stance back on the tail so you have more nose.
@@AngrySnowboarder Awesome, thanks for the feedback. Stay angry.
Do you think there would be a lot of overlap having this and a huck knife in the quiver? Was looking for something more all mountain / freeride
There will definitely be overlap, maybe get a Flagship instead since you want a more freeride board. Or even get an Aviator.
Angry Snowboarder thanks Angry!
You are going to review the Jones stratos?
Eh maybe.
Which has softer tips Mt Twin or Capita Mercury.
Mercury.
@Angry Snowboarder I've been burning through your videos looking for my next board. I want to be able to hit some medium jumps and side kicks and learn to ride switch better. I consider myself an intermediate to advanced rider (when my good foot is forward). I love carving and tree runs more than anything else but I'm on the ice coast so I don't find myself in the woods as often as I like. I have no desire to jib. Does the MT fit the bill in your opinion? Can it hold my hand through the park while I hold it's hand through the trees? Or do you have other suggestions?
Thanks for all the content! Definitely a subscriber now.
Do it.
Since its more freestyle focused do you recommend getting a slightly smaller size?
Depends on what you're doing.
@@AngrySnowboarder i bought an 160 cm for heliski/pow days. i'm 178 cm height and 70 kg weight. when i m on piste i enjoy just playing butters, 180s and just playing. i used to have a 156 cm capita doar for that but lost it. Would you recommend i pair the mountain twin with a smaller board for these activities or do you think i should just stick and do it all with the board i just purchased ? if you would recommend i buy a shorter softer board for play, which one would be your pick ? thanks !
Hmm, always thought the mountain twin was not that stiff to begin with. Could the softening up have to do with the fact I don't see the Explorer in their range anymore?
Still think the flexratings on the Jones website are a joke though. Mountain twin as 8/10 (should be 5 /10) and then the much stiffer ultra twin 1 higher with 9/10.
Explorer was renamed Frontier due to a cease and desist order. Flex ratings in general are a joke.
wish they would make the wides wider, even 26 isn't anyting in the wide world.
Wich size do you think would be best. I am about 95 kg's and size 8.5 in boots.
59 to 61.
Hey Angry, back riding again after a LONG time out raising a couple of kids (who now ride) and thinking about upgrading from my 2009 Palmer Crown.
Watched a lot of your reviews.
I want an all mountain quiver of one which I can still lay an either foot forward trench on.
What would you choose between the Capita Mercury (or Super DOA?), Lib Tech Ejack Knife, Jones UMT or is there something else out there? Size US 11 boot, 5’10”, 185lbs.
Many thanks in advance.
In this order is what I'd go with Jones UMT, Super DOA, Lib Hot Knife, or a Ride Berzerker.
Angry Snowboarder thanks so much for getting back to me so fast. UMT it is then. I was hoping you were going to say that.
Keep the channel going. Love the content. Especially the angry, sweary, sarcastic bits.
I'm a low-intermediate who wants to progress to solid intermediate. I want a board that will let me carve on the groomers really well as that will be the majority of my riding for now, riding switch maybe 10/15% of the time. I want the option to set back the stance and ride pow occasionally, but not as the primary focus. I'd like to practice butters a little, enough to be able to do nose rolls and a few butter 180s etc eventually, again, not the main focus. Would you recommend the Mountain Twin or the Frontier?
Frontier.
@@AngrySnowboarder Awesome, thank you for the reply. If I posed the same question, but Frontier vs the Capita Kazu?
Why would you ask about a board that's clearly beyond your ability level again? Just buy the Frontier.
@@AngrySnowboarder Yep, think I'll do just that! Thanks
Hi! Would burton genesis be okay with the MT?
Yes.
As a old in the game snowboarder that had only ridden camber, is this a nice transition to something new?
Been looking at this, flying v (but the ice...) Burton custom(well never had one). 190, 92kg and 13 shoes, with those shoes there aren't a ton to choose from.
This should be a nice board to play around with, switch(well got to get better), jib and generally carve? Or should an old dog stay with camber?
Whatever you do don't go to a flying v is you're used to camber. This should fit the bill or maybe a Yes Typo would work for you.
@@AngrySnowboarder thx man, I actually ran into a Burton custom (not FV) that was on 50% sale so was too cheap to pass, especially since I never had a Burton.
Let's see how I like it. Not the easiest to butter I've heard but I'll have to get used to it.
Might get a hybrid later on as alternative and for pow
How does this compare with 2020 yes standard?
Little more camber, little different rocker, overall flex is pretty similar.
I want to buy a stable board which i can play in the park when i'm in the mood (not so often). I would say that my lvl is intermediate. After some research i found this 2020 MT as a good fit but idk exactly what size should i choose - the best price on my local store offers min. size 160 cm - would be that good for me? (weight: 75kg, height 190cm, boots: 11-11.5). Thanks!
You want a 57 and you'll need a wide.
@@AngrySnowboarder Got it, thanks! 🍻 Now let's go shopping and wait for winter to come 😅
Struggling with heal drag on a Machette GT (*its the 2016 which wasn't as shit i promise*) with a waist width of 252, size 11 boots and union force bindings that I swear is making this shit worse.
Is the extra .8 width on the 161W really going to make any difference?
False Machete GT was always shit. Yes.
@@AngrySnowboarder Haha, how did I miss this. Ok, well I got it cheap anyway and now I'm selling/binning it
I hope you're happy
Angry thanks for all the great reviews. I'm weighting down this the Capital Outerspace and Ride Warpig, basically looking for a responsive but forgiving board, also I normally ride 154-155 but I'm 200 pounds and 5'6 is this right or should I be going higher?
Since you want responsive and forgiving going a little smaller isn't a bad option. If you go bigger in size you'll lose that forgiving flex but gain more response. Out of the three you have listed the Outerspace is going to fit the bill the best.
@@AngrySnowboarder Thanks for that boss, I like the soft flex of the Capita, but will that hold well on hard turns or will it be too soft? Also will you be reviewing the Rome Agent 2020 anytime soon? This was my goto board back 8-10 years ago, but not sure if it's the same nimble do-it all type board. Thanks again champ.
So they revamped the 2020 Agent it's basically a stiffer buckshot. Great board and yes we'll have a review when I get done playing catch up on the reviews I need to finish. If you're worried about the soft flex of the outerspace you could maybe bump up to the new DOA (review of that coming soon too).
Gregor Thomas is the carving really bad on it? Does it give out on you? Looking for something fun but with a little responsiveness. So the outer space looks good just not sure how it would handle at speed and through some carves.
@@AngrySnowboarder Good to hear and will keep an eye out for when it comes out, the 2019 Rome Mechanic is super cheap now on evo. Thoughts on this board? seems like the agent but probably just cheaper materials.
Hey , I think they softened the MT more than you realize. My 2020 is like a noodle compared to my friends 2018 and his is broken in. Cool board but I’m going back to umt . This thing way to much chatter for my 44 y/o knees
This is disappointing to hear 😶😞
Is there a reason my longitudinal flex and torsional flex aren't standardised and also given as two separate flex ratings.
It's getting seriously frustrating now.
My board arrived tonight. If this is a 7/10 flex, then my Flow Team from 2008 (or whenever) is an 11 or 12. 🙄.
I'm in two minds whether to send this back. I haven't taken the plastic off yet.
So glad that I didn't go for the Assassin, if that's rated as a 4/10 😏.
2020 Jones Mountain Twin Or the new shape 2021 version? Which would you think is better?
No clue haven't ridden it.
@@AngrySnowboarder Ah okay! Thank you!
Would it ride similar to the E. Jack or completely different?
While in the same category they ride entirely different. The MT has more snap because the camber zone is longer and it is slightly stiffer torsionally. The E Jack is a more damp ride, less snappy, and is easier to turn due to the softer torsional flex.
@@AngrySnowboarder Awesome, thanks
Hey Angry! I'm planning to buy a new board for the upcoming season. I will be riding in Park City, Utah. I mostly stick to off piste, trees and all, a bit of backcountry here and there, but I'd like to hit the kickers and rollers on the sides. Also, this season I want to work on my tricks a bit, get butter rolls, 360s, indie grabs and all down. So while my focus will be on freeriding, a bit of freestyle performance wouldn't hurt; would you advice me to go for the Mountain Twin or the Explorer for 2020? I don't think you've reviewed the latter yet. I might get a year older model anyways. Or do you have any other board suggestions?
Marcos, the Explorer is called the Frontier now - same board. (I think Ford got pissy at Jones snowboards over the explorer name, legal action etc etc)
Frontier (Explorer) review here ---> ruclips.net/video/4qzv8mbohvo/видео.html
Hello this board(or frontier)can fit my burton malavita or need other bindings?
You're golden.
Angry Snowboarder it’s mean? Sorry I didn’t understand the slang
YOU ARE FINE!
Great review. If you had the choice, Jones MT or Capita Mercury?
Mercury all day.
Epic, thanks.
@@AngrySnowboarder what did you like better about the Mercury? I'm still on the fence between the two.
@@chris_dana The overall flex pattern and camber profile is more conducive to my riding style.
@@AngrySnowboarder I ride on harder snow, would this be a better choice between the 2 boards on harder, icy snow? I do like the camber profile on the Mercury more then the Mountain Twin. Also would you say that the Mountain Twin compared to the Jones Frontier is a more aggressive board and if so why?
Got a 150 westmark camber for all-mountain/park and a 154 Skeleton key for powder/freeride, should I ad a 151 MT for all mountain riding and put my westmark camber for park only?
Nah too much overlap, go ride you’re good.
@@AngrySnowboarder cool cool, thanks angry
I'm 5'8" 9 1/2 boot 153lbs. "Rad Dad" pretty much hit the whole hill. My question/issue is I've been eating and hitting weights and will likely gain a good amount of weight. My guess is if I know my body (I do) I'll be 167 in a month. Soooooo 154cm still?
Bigger question why are you eating weights? Do you need to be one one of those weird shows about people that have a sick fetish? You'll be fine on the 54.
Pretty sure I was dropped as a baby. Now I'm going to buy this board and head straight for the biggest mogul field.
Thanks for the help.
Hi Angry, I currently own the rossignol XV and the rossignol jibsaw, I'm looking for a board softer than the XV but stiffer than the jibsaw. I live on the ice coast so magna traction is preferred. Would the jones MT be a good fit or would you recommend something different.
Mountain Twin would fit perfectly in there.
@@AngrySnowboarder awsome, really like the graphic this season also. Thanks for the response.
I have the Yes typo and that great in ice. But I’m upgrading this year and getting the mountain twin.
I just upgraded to the Mt. Twin from a Ride DH2 - looking for a more aggressive ride. I am surprised how flexible this board is, wondering if I should've gone for the ultra...
Ride has some things that make then rebound different, but the big thing is your DH2 was full camber and this is camrocker so what you're getting is a new flex point between the end of the inserts and the tip kick. Because it's built with this flex point in it, the nose/tail feels more flexible there. Ultra will be stiffer but more than anything you probably want something full camber.
I'm here trying to figure out the same thing, I have a ride dh from like the first year they came out 06/07? First year of slime walls, trying to find a new Comparable stick
5'8 195-200 lbs size 11 boot. please help me figure out what size i should buy. want to buy today
58w for sure.
@@AngrySnowboarder im torn between this and the DOA . what would u reccomend for sizing for that. since there boots say 10.5 b4 needing wide board.
i could prob fit in a 10.5 boot but i have new 11s that fit and feel great. but normal work boot i wear a 10.5 find new boots or get wide board?
Just get the wide.
@@redartisanwolf6716 wide is the correct answer especially if you like the boots. but check the overhang. i'm a size 11 on a 252 waist width and i'm looking to get a new board.
I got the frontier instead. 161w. It was a coin toss I don’t ride switch much so frontier works for me.
How do you like your frontier and is it the 2020?
bman1818 I like it but I did buy a flagship as well. The frontier is a decent daily driver like the twin but doesn’t excite like the flagship. Frontier wide is nice and stable and can butter on nose really easy. Ice performance good.
Looking for a board that i can teach extended family that visits to snowboard on. We get a lot of powder days so its a 50/50 on if it will be groomers or powder. I prefer to buy quality boards that if they continue to come back they can advance all the way to expert on. What do you recommend? Thanks for your time man!
Any all mountain freestyle board that's slightly direction and mid level will more or less work for them.
I’m getting one.
Is it good for advanced beginner?
No.
@@AngrySnowboarder what size would you recommend 195lbs 5”11
5’6 rider , I weigh about 165-170 with the chance of still gaining
Just ordered my mountain twin ✌🏽 will I be good with 151cm?
You should be on the next size up.
Angry Snowboarder fashawww
Will I be okay going through with it still or you suggest cancelling my order and are ordering ?
So I assume you're looking for an all mountain board. So what will happen with that 51 is you'll be over the weight limit which means the board will be softer and you'll flex it more. You'll be able to toss this thing around but it's going to suck when you drive into a carve and push off the tail to exit the turn. You'll also notice it won't be as stable. I'd re-order it.
Angry Snowboarder I appreciate your timely response and your advice ! I Just Re ordered the right one
Was able to get order in quick enough for arrival on Wedsneday . I have a big 5 day trip from Thursday - Monday riding ! I’m excited
@@AngrySnowboarder Hey angry, I'm 200pnds and 5'6 also, usually ride 154-156 is this right? I know for my weight most boards say 157-158 but then that's too long of a board for me since I'm short.
Do you think the 157cm will be a noodle for a 200 pound rider?
Won't be a full blown noodle but it will be softer than average.
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Hi
I'm 5'9'', 165 pounds and 11,5 boots. Should I go 55W or 58W?
Tks!
Denis Oksman 55 probably