7 Differences Between Indonesia and Malaysia
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
- In this video I talk about two countries that have a lot in common, but also a lot of differences: Indonesia and Malaysia. I talk about seven of the most notable differences between the two sibling countries.
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Hi, everyone! I hope you like the video! There's a mistake @6:08 because I misread an infographic from the Malaysian government. Here's the infographic:
►www.mycensus.gov.my/index.php/125-newsletter-infographics/343-infographics#gallery6d2b70fcaf-5
►18.7% is Buddhist, 9.2% is Christian, 6.1% is Hindu, and 0.9% is other.
The names of the religions are staggered on the infographic, but I thought they were directly above the percentage that applies to them.
Ohh i was confuaed at that part because i am a malaysian and i see alot more buddhist stuff than christian stuff
@@David242Rblx Yes, I thought it seemed strange and I looked at that infographic again to confirm, but still misunderstand the way it was written.
after see malaysia & indonesia flag , , , , , , i remember flag from us & poland , , , , , , , , ,
Exactly i was going to say that and so thats another difference having the main religious minority different
There are more Budhists in Malaysia however the numbers are decreasing as lessening Malaysian Chineses claim themselves as Budhist or Taoists. Many of them less believing on God and becoming atheists and some of them converted to Christian and Islam. However in Borneo still predominantly Christians.
You forgot to mention about the government. Malaysia is federal parliamentary with constitutional monarchy, while Indonesia is unitary presidential republic. Malaysia has sultans that elected among 9 sultans as the head of state and prime minister as the head of the government, while Indonesia has the president as the head of state and the head of the government, and also commander in chief for armed forces.
true
Malaysia also has 3 non monarchies daerahs. It is Sarawak, Sabah and Labuan.
Also Indonesia Has One monarchy daerah it is Jogyakarta.
As a simple explanation are
Majority Constituents daerahs Malaysia is monarchy so it oke to be country parliamentary federal monarch system. But
Majority Constituents daerahs Indonesia not Monarchy so it suitable to presidential or parliamentary non hereditary system
@@timurlink9332 Malaysia has four non-monarchy states. Penang, Malacca, Sabah and Sarawak. Labuan is a federal territory which it is under federal administration that ruled by the paramount leader (YDPA) which is sultan.
@@zhofirzamani yes. I forget Penang-seberang Perai..
@@timurlink9332 Yogyakarta in Indonesia, yeah those monarch is legally recognize but they don't really have power, their power is under central government because the Sultan of Yogyakarta serve as Governor of the province
I love the word "Chinese Malaysian" in the video! Thanks for calling us as a Malaysian and not Chinese people in China, there are a lot of people who don't understand that we are not Chinese people in PR China, we only consider ourselves as a Malaysian!
No problem, that seemed clear to me! 👍🏻
but in Indonesia, it doesn't matter if you are Chinese, Indian, Arab, but if you are an Indonesian citizen, then you are Indonesian.
@@ahmadbinmadsuri okay and your point is? OP is Malaysian too, doesn't matter he Chinese Indian or whatever
@@ahmadbinmadsuri how is that relevant? The person is talking about Malaysia being chinese descendants... and he/she is proud of being Malaysian
@@ahmadbinmadsuri so? he/she clearly stated that "we only consider ourselves as a Malaysian!"
Im Malay Indonesian, For your information: Sumatran Muslims are more similar to Malaysia, Sumatrans are more conservative in religion, Islam and culture have been integrated and strongly recognize similarities with Malaysia, so actually ethnicity influences everything here, so the difference is more Javanese and Malay. Java is still heavily influenced by Hindu-Buddhist cultural customs while Sumatra, except for the Batak, is strongly influenced by the Hadrami Arab Muslim culture which is anti-syncretism with previous beliefs (puritan).So for us Malays, religion and culture have been integrated into one, you could say we are an ethnoreligious community
I'm palembangnese!
we are the ancestors of the Malay nation, it has become an informal agreement, and just ask the majority of Kings in Malay realm
evidence:
1. the oldest ancient human fossils in Sumatra are here (harimau cave, Padang Bindu, south Sumatera)
2. the largest and most complete megalithic site is here (Pagaralam Besemah south Sumatera)
3.Queen Shima the queen of Java is from Sribuja Malay (Musi Banyuasin)
3. we are Sriwijaya descendant (Minanga Ogan Palembang)
4. parameswara, first king in malay peninsula from Palembang,
5. princess dara petak dara jingga,
6. Raden patah, First muslim sultan in Java is a Palembangnese,
7. grandpa of hang tuah 'the greatest melakan admiral' from Sekanak Palembang,
8. most of habaib 'prophet descendant' in the archipelago are in Palembang, Palembang was known as second hadramot
9. the oldest city in the Malay world 'nusantara' is Palembang.
10. Term of Malay come from malayan kingdom and Melayu Sribuja around Palembang until Jambi before conquered by srivijayan empire
Therefore we have an obligation to provide this explanation that we are ethnoreligious people.
Pernah ke Jawa?
Tidak semua sumatra muslim, disna ada suku batak, suku nias, suku mentawai yg bukan non muslim
@@vhydaranante1542 itu sudah saya tulis kecuali Batak, Mentawai, Nias bukan sumatera mereka pulau tersendiri
@@vhydaranante1542 baca yg teliti boss, udah ada batak disitu
@@hafizhradhitya4861
Lah, aku ni lahir di Sumatera bro, aku orang Bangko, Merangin, Jambi. Tau dak kau ada kota di Indonesia yg namanya kayak ibukota Thailand?🤣
Btw, aku dari lahir sampai SMA di Sumatera, baru merantau setelah lulus SMA
Another (kinda) random thing I'd like to mention about the differences between the 2 countries, especially in terms of the language, is that some specific mathematical terms in Indonesian are mostly loaned from English, while in Malaysian Malay they would use a pure Malay term or sometimes Arabic terms, for example :
English - Indonesian - Malay
Integration - Integral - Pengamiran
Differentiation - Turunan - Pembezaan
Limit - Limit - Had (from Arabic, حد)
Sequence - Barisan - Janjang
Variable - Variabel - Pembolehubah
Diagram - Diagram - Rajah
Coordinate - Koordinat - Satah
Constant - Konstan - Pemalar
Exam - Ujian - Peperiksaan
Permutation - Permutasi - Pilih atur
Multiply - Kali - Kali or Darab (from Arabic)
Subtract - Kurangi - Tolak
Etc.
As an Indonesian I've been interested on education in Malaysia and I was amazed on how the Malaysians came up with these new words that I've never seen or heard, yet sound so unique and fascinating.
Greetings from Indonesia to my Malaysian Brothers and Sisters
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Itulah cerdasnya ahli bahasa indo bikin bhs indo mendunia contoh parkir tetep parkir stop=stop invest=investasi jd klo investor luar mau invest ke indo gk bingung kyk malaysia invest= pelaburan wtf?, bayangin klo semua kata serapan diubah ke Malay jadi kacau bray push up= perkosa bumi, joysstick= batang kenikmatan wtf?
Satah is also arabic (سطح) meaning a plane or surface where you put the coordinates
When it comes to borrowing words, BI is more open and liberal, BM is more conservative. BM tends to create new words equivalent to English counterparts and not just directly borrowing everything.
@@netease4289 mungkin kalo kalian bisa Bahasa Inggris lebih banyak investor akan invest di Indonesia. Soalnya kalian ga sama sekali. Per kapita kalian terlalu kecil untuk negara dengan tenaga kerja yang ramai ketimbang Malaysia. Do better bestie.
@@netease4289 nampak sangat kau percaya hoaks yg dicipta dari kalangan kamu.. Mana ada istilah perkosa bumi dan batang kenikmatan dlm bahasa Melayu, itu istilah yg kalian cipta saking bencinya dgn negara tetangga jdi akan lbh ramai yg ikut2 utk memperngunjing..
I'm Indonesian and everything is great! Another points might be:
▫️Both countries have a love for sports especially badminton and football (soccer).
▫️ biggest palm oil producers in the world.
▫️ Malay and Indonesian language are mutually intelligible. However, both have developed to different paths, so choice of words are different.
▫️ Indonesia is the place where majority of ancient kingdoms of Sriwijaya and Majapahit's temples can be found.
(Edit) oops, this video is about the differences, but what I point out the similarities 😆
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Sriwijaya and Majapahit does not exclusively belong to Indonesia, now this is the problem with Indonesian
Yep thats the problem with Indonesians claim Majapahit and Sriwijaya exclusively belong to Indonesian civilization. In fact both are ancient civilizations belong to the whole region ruled under both Empires. At that time there were no such nation states eg Indonesia, Malaysia etc. Sriwijaya is well known an ancient Malay civilazation but it is not belong to Malaysia neither Indonesia.
@@hafizhassan3234 precisely, thats also the reason why Indonesians have such superiority complex to the point that they degrade others
@@hafizhassan3234 So where the Srivijayan temples in Malaysia? Destroyed? Even Thais preserve the temples better LMAO
As a Malaysian, I should say you are fair in your description about the two countries.. perhaps of your good command in both languages
Indonesian here. Indonesia and Malaysia really feels like two twin brothers who grew up with different parents (Great Britain and the Netherlands respectively). There are many differences but deep down we know we're still related. Some other differences to note include:
- In Indonesia, the word "Malay" (Melayu) refers to just the Malay people/tribe who primarily inhabit the most of the provinces of Riau and Riau islands, and some of the provinces South Sumatra, Bangka Belitung, and West Kalimantan. They are different from the other tribes in Indonesia. In Malaysia, though, the word "Malay" (Melayu) has become a catch-all term for all "native-born" people, including basically almost all Austronesian people (from what I understand). This has made some different view on what constitutes as "Malay culture".
- In Malaysia, a Malay person by law is only allowed to follow Islam and is not allowed to convert to any other religion. It's pretty much Malay = Islam. In Indonesia, everyone can follow any religion* they want (*as long as it's one of the six official religions of the country or if not, they can put the "Religion" field in their identity card blank). This has led to some funny encounters like if a Javanese Christian person from Indonesia orders pork in West Malaysia and people look at them weirdly.
- From what I've seen, and please take this with a grain of salt, Indonesians are more likely to be proud of their pre-Islamic past compared to Malaysians.
btw, AMA, I'll try to answer from an Indonesian perspective :)
There's also suspicion that Malaysia use 'Malays' as catch-all term in order to increase its numbers against the Chinese.
Speaking of pride of pre-Islamic history, mostly with the Javanese, and Sundanese to some extent. Malays not so sure, but they had Srivijaya Empire.
Agree. But if you’re Indonesian and speak in Indonesian and orders pork we pretty much understand where you came from since you don’t speak Malay and not from Malaysia
utk pesan makanan yg ada babinya itu kejadian di teman saya waktu liburan ke malaysia hehehe
krn teman saya dan rombongan org jawa semua dan kebetulan katolik
tapi krn dari aksen dan logatnya beda jadi deh makan bak ku teh
Not exactly. We use the term Bumiputera for all "native-blooded" people. Bumiputeras include the Malays (who constitutionally adhere to Islam) and other native groups such as the Dayaks and Orang Asli, many of whom are non-Muslim.
I want to visit Malaysia
As a Indonesian-American I’ve noticed many big differences between the two siblings.
1. Malaysians are more conservative Islam than Indonesians. Mostly due to what I would say is the amount of longer Muslim populated land In Nusantara. Most of Indonesia didn’t become predominantly Muslim until the late 1800s to most of the 1900s.
2. Indonesia is more ethnically diverse and the “foreign Indonesians” tend to be more patriotic than the one’s found in Malaysia, who tend to be more proud of their land of origination as opposed to land of residence. A couple of my cousin’s Chindo friends went to Malaysia once for either a business trip or vacation and was looked down upon or sometimes, whether on purpose or not, insulted by the Chinese-Malaysians for not being able to speak Chinese.
3. The similarities between Malay and Indonesian is like Irish/Scottish and American English. Malaysians can understand Indonesians due to years of watching Indonesian entertainment but not so much the other way around 😅. They can also only mostly understand a western or, to be more accurate, Jakartan speaker as opposed to someone like me who is an Eastern Indonesian speaker.
Other than what I could think of so far, we are really just the same people divided by a political boundary. I also think that the Filipinos should count as Nusantara considering how the Srivijaya empire also controlled parts of the Phillipines and how also very similar they are to both Indonesia and Malaysia, and no it has nothing to do with them also being Austronesian 😂. BUT hey Malaysians and my fellow Indonesians continue being yourselfs and roasting each other in good fun. Y’all roasting each other is what made me realize that we are the same people divided by political boundaries. 😂
Side note: When the Spanish came to the Phillipines they had to use Malay (the language not people) speakers as translators. They tried to do in the Phillipines what they did in the Americas and force people to speak Spanish which is why the Filipino Lingua Franca is what it is today. Can y’all imagine three types of spoken Malay if the Spanish had just tried to use Malay. English influenced, Dutch Influenced, and Spanish Influenced. I wonder what that would sound like.
“Oh Dios anak! Porque Kamu taruh itu di muka.”
“Porque aku mau keliatan Bonita mama!”
😂
Or
Malaysian: “Tolong ambil Tual (English: Towel) itu.”
Indonesian: “Tolong ambil Handuk (Dutch: Handdoek) itu.”
Filipino: “Tolong ambil toaya (Spanish:Toalla) itu.”
Point 3: Did you mean Gaelic with English or Irish/Scottish English with American English? Because if you think the latter, boy, they're actually two different languages and not just like different accent
@@danan2721 Scottish English and Irish English yes.
Your last point on the probable Spanish-influenced elements towards Bahasa is intriguing. But bear in mind that the Malay language in the Philippines is quite different. The language has been influenced by other regional languages also.
@@syedputrasyedabubakar2007 I agree it would be different as we can see in Indonesian and Malaysian but it would still be interesting to imagine.
Point no 2: Yes I totally agree with you on Malaysians tend to be proud of their ethnicity rather then their nationality wise. Malaysian tend to called themselves as Malaysian Chinese instead of Chinese Malaysian. Both hold different meanings and values although similar. Can't blame Malaysians why they behave so because that's how our history and education system moulded the citizens the way they are now. Fun fact# We also need to declare our race on our ID card (Not going into that in depth).
I do feel that being unable to speak your ethnicity language is nothing to be ashamed of but of course no harm learning an extra language. However, somehow some Malaysians just don't seem to understand the differences among people with different backgrounds and upbringing.
P/s: Speaking from my own life experiences as a Chinese from Malaysia who can't speak fluent Chinese at all. Haha I somehow survived..
The real difference is the last point you've mentioned.
Malaysians (especially Malay) tend to associate them and Indonesians are similar, while
Indonesians (mostly non-Malay which are 90% of the population) tend to segregate and disassociate themselves with Malaysians
im malaysian btw. i dont want to associate with indonesians bcoz we are a predominantly malay country while indonesian is java race country. and we are more modern and progressive country. we dont want to associate with any backward nation.
@@thegamexxx9011 malaysia is conservative country that still practice racist law (appartheid law) and has no freedom of press. malaysia's economy relies on 20-25% ethnic chinese.
@@thegamexxx9011 malaysia's national debt is higher that indonesia to their gdp percentage
@@thegamexxx9011 indonesia is not a javanese race. javanese, sundanese, balinese, madurese, batakese, buginese, minahasan, torajan, dayakese, malay
Just be honest.... Aren't y'all the ones who'd throw the word "Serumpun" thousand times . Especially your goverments. Been obessed with us this whole time huh? Haha.@@thegamexxx9011
Indonesians prefer to identify themselves with their ethnicity or 'tribe' (the direct translation of 'suku') rather than race like in Singapore or Malaysia. So it isn't uncommom for unique cases like racially Chinese people who identify as Javanese or people who identify as Arab even though their majority heritage is something else
In essence, identity in Indonesia is more fluid and doesn't necessarily reflect their heritage. For example, I am majority Minang by blood (the majority ethnicity in West Sumatra), but I tend to identify more as Malay and Betawi (the ethnicity mostly found in Jakarta)
@Damai saja You're right, though I suppose the reason Malaysia broadly groups these different ethnicities into Malay is because alot of the Austronesian peoples of Malaysia are descendants of migrants from the East Indies (the area of modern Indonesia), especially from surrounding Sumatra & Borneo. So the modern Malays of Malaysia are actually a diverse mix of peoples who are similar enough to Malays that the British just didn't care enough to recognize and just grouped them up into Malay
Oh interesting.
When I went to live in Bali for 4 and a half months, I went through Java (Jakarta) twice.
Inbound to Bali and outbound to Singapore.
When in Jakarta I made a friend. An Oilfield Roustabout Worker. I was stranded at the Jakarta Airport because I missed my flight. The Airline (Garuda I think it was) gave me another flight with the same old out of date ticket because I was a bewildered, lost in the World, travelling college student. I was sitting there thinking I had to sleep in the airport chair for a darn week and gotta eat in the airport for a week because the next flight out they gave me as a substitute was one week later 😆😁!!
An Indonesian Man saw me sitting there. He knew I was in trouble. He talked with me and understood my predicament. I could speak really elementary Bahasa and he could speak even better english, so we communicated good. He got me a hotel room and took me places in Jakarta like his two homes and to greet his two wives. He had two tiny houses deep inside the rough inner city neighborhoods however the houses were really nice inside and he drove a nice Mercedes Benz. He was on a hiatus from the Arab oilfields. Just inside the middle of his inner city neighborhood was an immense, gigantic Mosque covered in glittering gold.
We went out to eat every night there riding the rickshaw, and eating nasi goreng and good stuff.
When we went out at night to eat food out in the neighborhoods, the locals all thought I was Batak Tribe Group.
Ya, everybody is a Tribal Group from someplace.
It’s also worth mentioning that some ethnic groups like Minangkabau, Bugis, Jawa and etc are grouped and assimilated into ‘Malay’ here in Malaysia. However on the eastern Borneo side, people rather be identified by their ethnic group such as Iban, Kadazan, Dusun, Melanau and so on.
Why you identify as Malay instead of Minangkabau? You bring shame to your family.
Indonesians identify more strongly with religion than race/ethnicity
Hi Paul. I'm from Malaysia. I am so impressed with all the videos you have produced. The videos you put out are very beneficial to me and also to the public. May you continue to produce videos that can benefit the world community.
Thank you for the kind words!
I agree!!
I donated $ to this Channel by Paul !
He got the religion stats from Malaysia wrong.
@@cyber1991 Why do you say so?!
Love Indonesia and Malaysia from Bangladesh 🇧🇩🥰🥰🥰
We love Bangladeshi for their hardwork here. But why Bangladeshi man loves to hold hands when walking together? Please explain
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@@thebrightlord7973 AHHAHAHAHAA LOL
@@PENIUPWISEL I often saw it too in KL LOL
Indonesian treasure their ancestor culture, hence many cultural aspect that predates Islam still preserved. The tendency of coexistence or even synchreticism have already been practiced long before modern Indonesian. While generally accepted that calm trait with peaceful and projected mind as virtues, Indonesian can be very brave and willing to self sacrifice when it comes to their liberty and dignity. Majority Indonesian follow revolutionary route to fought for their own freedom from colonial power, whilst overthrow old and helpless feudals and monarchs who were not supporting the Idea of Unitary Indonesian Republic. Indonesian are very friendly on the base of equality, but wont bows when its about power struggle and only see the relation to be benefited or won. Though some religion extrimist and fundamentals lost it, many todays Indonesian are still similar with their predecessor in which they will accept differences and coexist, and break the harmony only when the principle of balance, harmony, and independence or peoples dignity is under threat. PS: I think that the religion extremist movement in Indonesia is minor. Acts to weaponize religion for political purpose do occur, ranging from illegal underground movement to the use of religion sentiment by some politiciants in order to scrap votes of more religious minorities. Due to the very active states of democracy that is Indonesia todays.
Nicely put!
Some other points comes to mind:
- government system
- foods are spicier in Indonesia
- Malaysian are much more fluent in English to the point they develop own accent
- while no Indonesian speaks Dutch
- Indonesian GDP PPP is higher
- ethnicities in Indonesia feels more diverse (Javanese, Sundanese etc have their own distinct culture) but practically no or minimum racial segregation
- Hindu influence (usually in names or lores) are more present in Indonesia, most likely due to Javanese being majority
Cmiiw
• Foods are spicier in Indonesia? Depends on which place? As for instance people in Central Java and Yogyakarta their food are not spicy, but sweet instead. Indonesia is too big to be generalized.
• Both GDP nominal & PPP, Indonesia is higher, but also both percapita nominal & PPP Malaysia is higher.
• "Malaysians are much more fluent to the point they develop own accent" I don't think accent has something to do with fluency. As the Japanese, Russian, and Chinese also have their own accents when they speak English, yet their average people don't speak good English.
• Hindu's influence, it's not just the Javanese. As can find Indian influence names easily across the Indonesia. People in Palembang (Sumatra) even name their football club by the name of Buddha/Hindu's kingdom "Sriwijaya FC".
Cmiiw
I'm Indonesian. I've been to Malaysia and their chili sauce doesn't even spicy at all.
In 1945 5% Indonesia can speak Dutch
@@risannd our chili sauce was not supposed to be spicy thats why
Just to add on the language part: in Malaysia we call it Bahasa Melayu. This has always been the case since the formation of Malaysia in 1957. However, there was a shift in the late 70s-late 80s when some political parties urged everyone to start calling it Bahasa Malaysia. This was the result of trying to establish the identity of Malaysia, just as Indonesia called theirs Bahasa Indonesia.
However, this caused a rift between historians/anthropologists vs politicians at the time. If Indonesians call it B.Indonesia and we call it B.Malaysia, what about other speakers in Brunei, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Cambodia etc? What would they call it?
Eventually, it was then reverted back to Bahasa Melayu, to reflect the use of the language inherited since the pre-colonial era. This is not at all mean B.Melayu belongs to the Malays only.
Indonesia language so different with Malayu language....
@@risalfrstama8690 Indonesian is influenced largely by the Dutch language (Eg. Peron for station) while Malaysian receives influence from the Queen’s English (UK) (Eg. Stesen for station)
@@risalfrstama8690 Of course it is different now. But we still can understand each other. Give it enough time, it'll be totally different just like what happened with Tagalog.
@@risalfrstama8690 but still it come from the same root because Malay people can still understand it. If it is from Java or Sunda language, then it's not from Malay obviously because we cant understand. Indonesian language cant stand by it own sentences without Malay language. Your country just change the language identity to a different name.
@@risalfrstama8690 Okay. Kalau anda 100% tidak faham apa yang saya katakan dalam komen ini, jadi kenyataan anda tadi betul
Tapi masalahnya, anda faham kan? Jadi 'indonesian is so different than malay' salah. Kerana Bahasa Indonesia dan Bahasa Melayu Malaysia merupakan dua standard berbeza bagi Loghat Melayu Johor - Riau
Silakan bangkang kalau anda rasa anda langsung tak faham komen saya
Jangan gaduh2 ya, setiap negara ada kelebihan dan kekurangan, walau gimana pun kita tetap bersaudara dan 1 nusantara
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Ogah
Betul.
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@@ekosudyono4737 semuanya bisa, semangat 💪
Thank you for the video. Geographically Indonesia has more volcanos and makes a shield against typhoons for Malaysia.
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reading this, basically Malaysia having shield from ID on the west side (Sumatra island) and shield from ID and PH on the east side.
also China government claiming area of the sea in SEA, Malaysia got affected a lot. hopefully Malaysia would be the shield of preventing tension against China. as long as I know the claim from China "stealing" a lot of Malaysians maritime area. affected the most, hopefully being the most tough to fight so basically PH ID BR would live peacefully
bru, this is correct lmao
lucky bastards lmao
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Nice.... you love geography?
Indonesia 🇮🇩 and Malaysia 🇲🇾 forever brothers
I think this new format allows you to give us several new shapes of interesting data like how deep are they with religion and laws. Well done Paul, congratulations!
I'm rooting for Indonesia 😎✨
Excellent background research on these 2 countries … never seen any video as detailed as this and very well presented… kudos to you
The 8th point, oh my gosh, when a Malay Malaysian start to describe who is a Malay, me as Indonesian of Sundanese ethnicity would be like: ok, say whatever you want but please don't count me in, i don't have anything to do with Malay
Check your dna. You could be chinese, african, or even jew
Didn't ask tho
Just to be clear I'm joking
Oh fine, i'm just stating my opinion, so you are, no hard feeling
except the language… Sundanese and Javanese trade/port society have many loanwords from Malay. Probably due to proximity with Batavias where Betawi-version of Malay was widely spoken among pribumis.
The language is well preserved among Agriculture society, but for the coastal/trading/port area not so much though.
I'm from Indonesia studying in Malaysia at the moment. Most of these are right. It really surprised me of these differences, especially the school part.
I was confused when I met Chinese who can't speak Bahasa Melayu because Bahasa was something Indonesians have to know and yeah! Hey! They have different school systems and am like :oooo
Bullshit, orang malaysia ngaku org indonesia hadeh
Indonesia more advance than maysia. Indonesia can build airplane, train inka, warship, helicopter, tank boat antasena , and etc
@@f4u21ramon8 paan wae dah, bang wkwkw xDD w bilang w kagok sama sistem sekolah di Malay, lu malah ngomongin transport 🤦♂
@@f4u21ramon8 why you are so rude? fellow indonesians pls educate him
@@f4u21ramon8 overproud Indonesian be like:
Wow! By far the most detailed and most well researched video on Malaysia and Indonesia ever.
Indonesia & Malaysia are brothers, unquestionable. Both share same value.
Thank you. As an Indonesian, there are some facts I overlooked, one of them is that Indonesians tend to emphasize the differences between them and Malaysians. Well, that's interesting to say the least. Again, thank you for this useful knowledge.
You forgot to mention that both countries have languages of Tamil and Sanskrit mix.
Geographically, malaysia has no volcanoes as it is not on the pacific ring of fire. It does have tremors usually felt when earthquake strikes indonesia.
Thanks for adding that! 👍🏻
Hello, sorry to burst your bubble. Remember 2015 earthquake happen in Sabah (Borneo)?? You're still holding to the lies that was booked in school text books and to be clearly, Malaysia is not about the Tanah Melayu only. Everything in the school text books (educational systems) are full of lies. That's goes to information as well.
@@teomai but Malaysia still free from major earthquake. unlike indonesia which on the pasific ring.
Nice video!
Just want to add 3 more differences;
1. The majority native ethnic in both countries:
Melayu (in Malaysia)
Java (in Indonesia)
2. Language:
Bahasa Melayu have most loanwords from Arabic and English.
Bahasa Indonesia have most loanwords from Bahasa Melayu, Arabic, Sanskrit and Dutch.
3. Chinese ethnic
All Chinese ethnics are non-native ethnic in Malaysia.
Meanwhile in Indonesia, Hakka-Chinese is considered as Kalimantan/Borneo's one of the 12 native ethnics. Hakka-Chinese is the pribumi of Singkawang-Bengkayang (from Monterado Republic), and Mandor (from Lanfang Republic) in Kalimantan-Barat/West-Borneo, eventhough other Chinese ethnics are non-native (Teochiu, Inghwa, Hainan, Cantonese, Hokkien, etc...).
Cheers!
Bahasa Melayu have loanwords from Dutch, Portuguese, Persian, Sanskrit, English etc... Bahasa Indonesia is from Bahasa Melayu so of course
@@purnamamerindu8166 bahasa indonesia have loan words from english,dutch,sankrit,arabic,portuguese,spain,javanese,sundanese,madurese,papuan,banjarese,balinese,moluccan,and much more...,and yess the root of bahasa indonesia is bahasa melayu riau,yeah riau indonesia
@@Mellonesia of course Bahasa Indonesia have loanwords from Portuguese, Dutch, Persian, Sanskrit and other foreign languages because Bahasa Indonesia is from bahasa melayu, so automatically you borrow all tuose words from bahasa melayu which has already been put into the malay languages for the past 600 years ago... now the issue is you guys always said there are words from bahasa daerah, which i dont see from it
@@purnamamerindu8166 yeah,that's the problem,you don't see it,the words like ceking,begah,nyolong,begal,jambret,nyeri,guyon,alun alun,and thousands more
@@Mellonesia and riau is part of Johore Riau Empire and of cos Bahasa Melayu! Period
I really love living in Malaysia. We have multi-racial citizens, diversity of foods, different culture but we live in harmony and peace. The key is respect each other.
Meanwhile in indonesia, the majority religion always bully the minority
@@user-dv6nh3mu3y pity of the minority. They deserve better.
did chinese and india there can speak malay fluently? i bet no most of them use their own language and english thats it. it's a shame
@@goldenboy6667 it's depend on person actually. But majority who born here can speak in Bahasa Malaysia. If they don't know how to speak Bahasa Malaysia maybe they are not Malaysian or they studied in international school.
@@lina_myI'm a Chinese Malaysian and I don't know how to speak Malay because I didn't listen in school.
You should mention about race in Indonesia, because people think Indonesia are Malay, yes Malay Indonesia also exist but not all of them are Malay tho
because malay-race in maleis is based on religion (islam), so ofc Indonesian REJECT that brainded concept 😂
Javanese is an etnic..not race
@@user-xb2lk1ln8qwhat about NTT/Papua?
Kudos again for the unvarying excellence of your research, explication and editing.
This is the best comparison both country. Better than Most Indonesian RUclipsrs/Tiktokers spread hoax facts.
Good research! Thank you GEOfocus.
Despite having less Muslim population than Indonesia, Malaysian Muslims are a lot more conservative while Indonesian Muslims are generally more secular. The gap between very devout and very liberal Muslims in Indonesia is huge too so you can have one Muslims that would oppose everything Islamic to extremism and militants which would terrorize the innocent civilians. It’s almost unheard of in Malaysia.
Things that can be added on the video:
1. Indonesia is a unicameral presidential republic while Malaysia is a bicameral parliamentary (rotational-elective) constitutional monarchy.
2. Indonesia is a unitary while Malaysia is a federation.
3. Malaysia has monarchies, 9 in total. Indonesia don’t (except Yogyakarta where the Sultan still hold significant role in the province). The concept of monarchy is so distant to general Indonesians these days.
4. Indonesia’s currency is Rupiah while Malaysia’s currency is Ringgit. The value differs greatly.
5. Malaysians tend to be more proficient in English than Indonesian. Malaysia ranked third in English Proficiency Index in Asia.
6. Bahasa Melayu Malaysia is more conservative in borrowing words from foreign language while Bahasa Indonesia is much more open and liberal about it. Hence why Bahasa Indonesia expand on a fast rate compared to Bahasa Melayu and explains why BM speakers tend to code-switch a lot.
7. In the early years of their foundation, Indonesia was lead by a more leftist-leaning leaders and party while Malaysian founding fathers were rightists and Anglophiles. Understanding this would make it easier to understand Konfrontasi era, etc.
8. When it comes to politics, Indonesians are a lot braver and fiercer than Malaysians. Malaysia barely ever have riots, if we have one, it’s usually a peaceful ones and organizer needs a permit from the authorities in which we usually obey (funnily and ironically enough). Indonesia is braver in this sense while Malaysians is the Britishey posh ones that usually discuss conflicts over a cup of tea 🤦♂️
9. Malaysia has its own English variety called Malaysian English (MyE) or Malaysian Standard English (MySE) alongside a uniquely Malaysian English-based creole called Manglish (very similar to Singlish). MyE is formal English based on British while Manglish is a colloquial lect of English Creole. As far as I’m aware, Indonesia has neither.
10. Malaysia has states (like the US) while Indonesia has provinces (like Canada).
So which one is better?
@@Sharif_iraqi depending on your viewpoint
@@notusneo what's yours?
@@Sharif_iraqi i prefer the more secular view since im myself are agnostic and muslim extremism isnt really that good on the whole national unity in Indonesia
@@Sharif_iraqi one country is 88% muslim, but the so called muslim population (in Java) still worship a goddess deity of the javanese sea and send offerings and prayers to Nyai Roro Kidul while proclaiming to be a beliver of monotheistic faith, while the other country is only 60% muslim, the smallest ethnic population among the major ethnics of Southeast Asia, but was the biggest force of Monotheism the region has ever known and has apparently complete clarity and practice of their monotheistic faith. One is society of confusion, another is of certainty. Which one you think is better?
Love Malaysia and Indonesia ❤️🇲🇾❤️🇮🇩
The way you use maps helps understand better! Very good job! Thank you!
Great video. The Portuguese were the first Europeans to reach the Nusantara region in 1509 in Melaka and conquered it in 1511...who were followed by the Dutch in 1641 and the Brits in as early as 1795 in Penang which eventually led to the 1823 British-Dutch Agreement to split Malaya Peninsula and Indonesia between themselves.
Great video!
The word "Pribumi", Which basically means "Native" is a pretty sensitive word. I think you should have break down the specific percentage of each ethnicity. Because a lot of people with chinese, arab, indian and even european background already consider themself as Pribumi. They want people to treat them equally
I’m pretty sure I got that from an Indonesian government survey. That would mean the numbers are based on self-identification. I can’t break the numbers down beyond self-identification, because I don’t have that data.
But I said that the number of people with Chinese roots is higher than the number that self-identified as Chinese.
@@GEOfocusChannel Yes, because of past discrimination in Indonesia many people with chinese roots tried to make themselves less chinese, hiding their ethnic identity, these days though their children simply don't care enough whether they are considered chinese or not, because most have been assimilated. It's also the reason why Indonesia seems to have such a low percentage of Chinese ethnicity, in reality the country have the highest number of people with chinese roots in the entire world outside of China. This is also the reason why the word "pribumi" are never used in daily conversation anymore in Indonesia, as it was used to alienate the chinese ethnicity in Indonesia in the past, no matter even if they have settled in the country for generations and assimilated.
The word "pribumi" and "cina" (the word used to called people of chinese ethnicity in Indonesia) are close like the "N" word in america, not used in daily conversation, while not being a complete taboo word, people barely use them anymore unless in private conversation. These days people of chinese ethnicity in Indonesia are officially called chinese (yes the english word) or tionghoa (also means chinese but in the hokkien dialect).
All of this has also led to the unique situation where Indonesia one of the few, if not the only country, that calls China by their "real name". Most country call them China, but in Indonesia, people also use Tiongkok (it means China but in hokkien dialect, in Mandarin China is Zhongguo).
@@askkedladd , Indonesia is not the only country that doesn't use China, Vietnam also use Trung Quoc, pronounced as chungguok like Cantonese. Thailand use Chin. Russia use Kitay or Cathay , Japan use Chu Goku. Korean use Chung Kuk etc. Laos and Cambodia and Myanmar also have their own name to call China
Actually there are 3 Malay countries, another one is the small but oil rich Brunei.
While Philippines native languages may be related to Malay, but quite different， they can't communicate using own language, but Brunei Malay can easily understand the national languages of Indonesia and Malaysia， vice versa.
There are also some Malay people in South Thailand
@@sc5252 and Singapore
Despite all those differences, both countries are equally great!💙
Your research is very accurate. As an Indonesian, I aprrove this
There are 137 languages in Malaysia and many Malay dialect.. so not only specifically Hokkien.... we also mix with our regional languages sometimes like jom, menganjing, kantoi etc.... among chinese people yes they mix a lot with chinese language when they speak malay... and lastly, all Malaysians can speak Malay as it is the national language of the country... if you fail Bahasa Melayu in your exam of school, you cannot further your studies at University/College...
Well it’s true that Chinese Indonesians were strongly discriminated back in the day, but after that period the community was allowed to follow their traditions, even allowing Mandarin to be taught in schools and even celebrating Chinese New Year as a national holiday. I myself am an Indonesian with a Chinese background, and speaking Mandarin was challenging but fun
My grandpa is a Chinese that born in java island, and he told me that his grandparents can't even speak chinese and only speak local language, so i'm guessing that chinese descendant especially the south part of indonesia, have been here even before the dutch came, and mostly trader. so when the chinese cuture ban happen, it doesen't have any impact to them other then they need to change their name, so they pretty much Native Indonesian that looks Chinese. and all the hate towards chinese probably started around the dutch era, because the dutch separate the pribumi chinese and european into deffrent classes. and my mom told me (she is a javanese) that back when she still in high school and in university, that she and her friend always wandering what kind of do chinese people eat, and how they live, and questioning if there any poor chinese?, so all the misconception of a race come because people never meet or hangout with them and only heard things from family or friends. ada pepatah tidak kenal maka tidak sayang, jadi alangkah baiknya salaing berkenalan satusama lain dan menjalin silahturahmi bersama. saling menghormati dan saling membantu antar sesama manusia.
Good explanations.
I m glad about the "non-assimilation" part on Msia. Reads "tolerance and generosity".
I was talking to a Malaysian man who lives in Indonesia the other day and I asked him about the differences between Bahasa Malaysia and Bahasa Indonesia
The way he described it is that
they can understand each other but the Malaysian sounds rough and the Indonesian sounds smooth and beautiful
reminded me of my Lebonese friend saying that his arabic was more smooth but Iraqi Arabic makes the sounds more coarse and rough
it's cool to hear these like textural descriptions people come up with for each other interculturally
I imagine most cultures do it
Whatever..who care.meaningless
Just imagine the British and American slang. Thats how different is ours
@@akari3354 that's a difference, and yesterday I just heard it from a Malaysian? I would never know if the Malaysian didn't say it, bahwa Indonesia bercakap itu lembut 😂 perangai sedang marah sedang happy nada dia sama saja katanya 😂😂 it's meaningfull for me as Indonesian 😂✌️✌️✌️
@@sitinuryanti5717 I think that's more about culture than the language itself.
For me, it's the other way around. Indonesian language is more thick and rough.
Great work Paul! Keep it up! 👍
Thanks, Marc 👍🏻
Muy interesante. De nuevo, gracias. 👍
Thank you 😊. Your video is very informative ! Cheers! 👌 👍
So proud being Indonesian because ONLY ONE NATIONAL IDENTITY IS ACCEPTED THAT IS INDONESIAN
ThTs why you all are way way behind. Let’s face the truth ya. there are only one Malaysian as well. What you trying to say it seems like we have difference national identify idiot. Your mentality cause your brain not functioning well dude .
Indon maling bahasa melayu 😁😁
Despite the background difference from colonial time between Indonesia (Dutch) and Malaysia (British). Indonesia and Malaysia both drive on the left of the road. Sir Thomas Stamford Bingley Raffles in 1811 changed the way people drive the carriage in Java from the way in the Netherlands (right of the road) to the way in Britain (left)
Is there a reason he did that?
@@azarimy because he's british.. and that's what's imperialists do.. unfortunately 😅
No, there are few reasons for this. First is because historically Dutch had been driving(or riding, I guess) on the left side of the road ever since coming to Indonesia the very first time. It’s been established like that and kept it that way even until after Napoleon changed the way Europe(including the Netherlands) to drive on the right side of the road. Additionally, most cars manufacturers during the rising of automobiles were coming from Japan which primarily have steering wheel of the right and used on the left side of the road
I love your channel bro. Keep up the good work.
You may find some ethnic Malays in malaysia are able to converse in Mandarin. Quite a number of malay parents send their children to chinese school. Also its quite common to see malaysians speaks 3 languages. On the part where people code-switch. Attempting to speak fully in Malay can be challenging at times and in some syntax, we partially mix it in english. Its because sometimes we are lost in translation, even for a malay native. Bad habit in my opinion. We should attempt to speak the language in full rather than mixing it around , otherwise it will be rojak manglish.
well even Malaysia politician speaks with mixing Malay + English, so rojak is ok.
@@jimli3604 No its not. Wether the politicians or the sultan children did that, it is NOT ok to rojak. And trust me, I've grown with rojak malay, and it's not something to be proud of tbh.
@@zebimicio5204 i don't know, from my perception mixing languages are so unique tho.
@@sitromidori Fluent in various language and able to change it easily while talking is super cool
But let me show you what happened when you are mixing language
If gua cakap like this ma, lu rasa lu wanna si right? (If i speak like this, you feel you wanna go to die right?)
@@Vladyz1671 seems right to me..nothing apocalyptic
This is amazingly Good Video. Keep on Creating, how about Singapore and Brunei, they are rich younger brothers of us....
malaysian like to say "saudara serumpun" with indonesian people.. it's maybe true for indonesians who come from Sumatra but the eastern part of Indonesia (Maluku, Papua, Nusa Tenggara timur) doesn't really agree to the term serumpun with malaysia because it will exclude them..
so that's why I am as Indonesian will call malaysian as negara tetangga because Indonesia is big.. and the part that resemble malaysia just the western part..
(Sumatra and Kalimantan maybe)
I am a muslim but I dont want the country change into islamic country I think our founding fathers knew that The current Indonesia is the best for all the people who call themselves indonesians
Yeah...maybe your can answer using pancasila in front of god in the hearafter
Maybe I'm agree with you Sumatra and Malay peninsula has lot ties. I wanna Javanese include to.... But Javanese alone excluded themselves. Furthermore the Javanese considered themselves as descendants of Anthropopithecus erectus, Pithecanthropus erectus or widely knows as Java man.... Poor people's 🤣😂🤣
@@timurlink9332 no need
@@zuyrie Islam only teaches differences and mutual respect for the affairs of the hereafter depending on each person
@@timurlink9332 the last line, do you heard it somewhere or did you make that up?
This was a great video!
I guess partly the reason why Malaysia is so called more conservative religiously is because the power of the Sultan and Mufti as well as the Judges of Sharia Law is enshrined in the Federal and State constitution. Hence it is more easy to implement religious presence in the society.
Looking forward to it
It should be an interesting one!
I am Dutch and in Dutch we also use Malay words that were brought to the Netherlands by seafarers from the 16th century. Words like: Pisang, Senang, Pienter, Kakkies, Pieker, Soesa, Sinjo, Toko, Bazar, Mata-Glap, Karbouw, Tempo-Doeloe, Patjakker, Sarong, Koelie, Kroepoek, Klamboe, Amok, Sate, Soebatten, Ketjap, Branie, Pakkie-An, Banjeren, Bakkeleien, Goeroe, etc.
In the Netherlands, the Indonesian diaspora who came in 1950 say that they speak 'Maleis' (Malay) and not Indonesian. The Bahasa Indonesia did not yet exist when the Indo's and Maluku people arrived in the Netherlands.
I hope Indonesian read this comment because they heavily denied that Bahasa Indonesia is Bahasa Melayu.... have a good day
@@purnamamerindu8166 we denied calling Bahasa Indonesia is FROM Malay Msia because its FROM RIAU not your country. And OUR PUREST MELAYU FROM RIAU NEVER USE YOUR "EiBiSiDi" spelling 🥴
and there is no such a thing as "Indonesians Diaspora in 1950", beacuse YOU DUTCH STILL CLAIMING INDONESIA AS YOURS UNTIL 1949! Those people that come to YOUR COUNTRY is called "ANTEK BELANDA". They NEVER become WNI (Indonesians) in the first place 🥴 Because after "Masa Bersiap" is done ALL DUTCH citizen and their PUPPETS must go or all of them will be killed.
@@bonnieculla6210 nobody say its from Malaysia... it is indeed Malay language... Johor-Riau Malay..... that use jawi spelling.... and purest Malay also doesn’t use Dutch spelling, A Be Ce De 💁🏻♂️
@@purnamamerindu8166 it is useless to explain to them.
Tank you so much, good information. 🙏🏻
Thank you for the good explanation in this video. Gain new knowledge 😊
Nice video. However please add a lit bit about administration or governments system both countries. Thank you.
Congratulation again. This video work is of very high quality, for full of accurateness, complete and concise at the same time + very clearly schematized. Very professional and pedagogue you are indeed, Dennis. As always. Thank you for working for an easy but quite fair knowledge of your viewers.
His name is PAUL, not Dennis!
@@manfredneilmann4305
You are quite right, I should have double checked. Thank you v. m., Manfred.
Big congratulation to Paul, then.
The bohey dulang as BGM is so beautiful 😻
Very good info. Keep it up
Like a siblings, there is love-hate relationship between Indonesia and Malaysia. But at the end of the day, we share so many similarities and we have each other's back ✌️
URAAA!
spot on! Thank you for being respectful while making video like this.. i am Malaysian and I totally agreed with the differences.. but all and all we are the same, we are human 😄
great info.
Terima Kasih for study about two country semoga makin suksess selalu ... Hope you more better in future
Great video once again, Paul! As I said yesterday, I would definitely watch you play geography games or something else if you streamed on this channel. Will you take ideas from viewers for streaming ideas/suggestions?
If you have ideas, go ahead and write them. If I don't think they'll work well, I just won't do them.
My objection to requests on Langfocus is that people feel very entitled to have me do the topic that they personally want, and they get very aggressive about it (posting the same request on 100 different videos, getting angry when I don't do it, calling me racist when I don't do it, etc.) It really went overboard on Langfocus. If it had just been people sharing ideas I would have never pushed back against it.
@@GEOfocusChannel
Pay no attention to those people. Unfortunetely, we're living in a world where people want everything NOW and they cannot (or don't want to) wait.
The OP's idea is great, I'd love to see you play some geo-games, and not necessarily streamed. Sporcle has some good games (which flag belong to the countries, finding countries on a blank map, finding countries without borderlines on a blank map, finding countries by their capitals, etc.), give it a try. Like you did Mystery Languages on Langfocus years ago. :-)
@@Limpi43 Thanks, I'll look at Sporcle.
I'm familiar with Geoguesser, and also their old games under the name Seterra. Sporcle sounds similar to Seterra, but might have a nicer and newer-looking interface.
I think you should mention how variety ethnic group as background of Indonesia, that makes Indonesia different from Malaysia. As Java is the majority in Indonesia, not the Malay tribe, then it impact to the outcome of Indonesian identity. Also Indonesian language is heavily affected by Arabic language because they are merchant who visited most of Indonesia regions in old age.
I was literally looking this up two days ago!
Thanks Paul.
I really hope you make a GEOfocus video focus on Malaysia and I really hope you mention our Monarchy as well. Our Monarchy is unique compare to other monarchies in the world.
Different colonizer = Different things in many aspects of life
1. 🇮🇩Indonesian language borrowed many Dutch words
🇲🇾Malaysian langauage borrowed many English words
2. 🇮🇩Indonesian alphabet uses
Dutch pronunciation (uh bé sé/ché dé é)
🇲🇾Malaysian alphabet uses English pronunciation (ay, bee, see, dee, ee)
3. 🇮🇩Indonesia uses 24-hour system just like continental Europe
-17:00 (05:00 pm)
-09:00 (09:00 am)
-20:00 (08:00 pm)
🇲🇾Malaysia uses 12-hour system with their own language
-05:00 petang (05:00 pm)
-09:00 pagi (09:00 am)
-08:00 malam (08:00 pm)
4. 🇮🇩Indonesia uses decimal point(.) as separator
-10.000 = ten thousands
-2.000.000 = two millions
- $ 1,25 = one dollar twenty-five cents
🇲🇾Malaysia uses decimal comma (,)
-10,000 = ten thousands
-2,000,000 = two millions
- $ 1.25 = one dollar twenty-five cents
Other unique differences
5.🇮🇩Indonesia has 3 different time zones (WIB, WITA, WIT)
•WIB (western Indonesian time)= GMT +7 /Sumatera, Java, Western Borneo •WIB is the standard time for news
•WITA (central Indonesia time)= GMT +8 /Bali, Nusa Tenggara isles, Western Borneo, Sulawesi
•WIT (eastern Indonesia time)= GMT +9 /Maluku isles and Papua
🇲🇾Malaysia only has one time zone that is GMT +8, so it's equal to WITA in Indonesia.
6. 🇮🇩Indonesia is Republic
🇲🇾Malaysia is Federal state
7. 🇮🇩Indonesia is democracy
🇲🇾Malaysia is monarchy
8. 🇮🇩Indonesia has no official religion, but Indonesia recognizes 6 religions (Islam, Protestantism, Catholicism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Confucianism)
🇲🇾Malaysia's official religion is Islam. But Malaysia also recognizes other religions
9. Differences in mother tongue and second language
🇮🇩(L1 = regional/ethic language, L2 = Indonesian language)
🇲🇾(L1 = racial language, L2 = English)
10 . 🇮🇩Islam in Indonesia is mostly less strict and conservative
🇲🇾Islam in Malaysia is mostly more strict and conservative
11. 🇮🇩Malay (Melayu) term in Indonesia is an ethnic/a tribe, who reside in eastern coast of Sumatera and western part of Borneo
🇲🇾Malay (Melayu) termin Malaysia is a race.
Malaysia practices Parliamentary Democracy with Constitutional Monarchy and His Majesty The King as the Paramount Ruler
Thanks for sharing, I have a teacher from Malaysia when I was a kid in Indonesia, they act like Indonesian but more religious.
Good information...
90% right
Malaysian here. Great video Paul, everything you said are pretty much spot on! Would love to see more videos on Southeast asian countries. Keep it up
6:34 it depends on which area. People in Sumatra, Kalimantan and Sulawesi are generally more religious. Previously, Java was also religious (actually Java is still the center of Islamic studies until now), but since the nativization project carried out by the Dutch, where the Dutch made propaganda saying that you cannot be fully Javanese if you become Muslim and so On the other hand, they tried to separate Islam from Java (this is written in one of the literatures at Leiden University in the Netherlands). this was not without reason, the Dutch were traumatized by the Java vs Dutch war led by Prince Diponegoro, the most influential Islamist general in his era, Prince Diponegoro called the Javanese war as Fi Sabilillah war (holy war). The war was very costly and drained the Dutch of energy, the Dutch loss during the Java war was equivalent to the income of the Dutch kingdom during 20 years of colonization. so they made a project that separated Java and Islam, actually the Dutch were not interested in religion, but when it got in the way of their interests they would act. They also did the same thing to the Malays of Sumatra, Aceh, they sent a Dutch orientalist named Snouck Hurgronje because Aceh put up a big fight against the Dutch, but it seems that Islam is already strong for the Acehnese, while in Java, even though it is 90% Muslim, the hinterlands still carry out ancient rituals that has nothing to do with Islam. The British did not do the same thing to the Malays of Malaysia because the Malaysian malay did not put up a big fight against the British.
"The British did not do the same thing to the Malays of Malaysia because the Malaysian malay did not put up a big fight against the British."
This is so wrong. The Malays did put up a big fight against the British and most of them have been wiped out easily by the modern weapons of the British. The Sultans who were against Britsh and show sympathy towards rebels has been replaced by another pro-British Sultan.
spot on
Another huge difference: Indonesia has 17,508 islands of which about 6000 are inhabited, and Malaysia has around 878 islands, most of which are uninhabited. (But, according to Wikipedia and the Department of Survey and Mapping, Malaysia, there are over 20,000 islands in the country.) So, it is probably impossible to compare the coastlines of these two countries. 😏
Who is here after "sex outside marriage is illegal" law passed in Indonesia....
Really interesting the fact that Indonesia is less conservative than Malaysia, with regards to Islam and seeing many issues. Kinda feel that Indonesia is something like Brazil, and Malaysia is like the colonies that UK had in the Caribbean. All these islands in the Caribbean are very multicultural and diverse. Just a thought I had! :P
If you go to urban areas in Malaysia, it is much more multicultural than the national stats. In KL, Malays and Chinese have almost the same proportion.
Well if you count local tribe/ethics, Indonesia is way more diverse. In Jakarta as a capital, you can find more than 10 local language different vocabulary. According to law in Indonesia who is born and rises in Indonesia can call themselves pribumi. So you can find people like Chinese or india or Arab but not speak and act like their ancestors.
Indonesia way more diverse than malaysia, only malay and dayak etnic that exist in malaysia, those chinese and indian, are not indigenous, so its not count.
Indonesia has more 700 more etnict and they are not tribal like brazil did, their living like modern people, they still preserve they culture and their do part in the government, we are definitely not like brazil where immigran from europe dominating and exploit from indigenous people
Im indigenous people and im being indigenous that glad living in indonesia than being indigenous in canada, amerika or brazil where we being exploited, murdered and the land taken from invasive european people or maybe chinese
And i really worried to outside immigrant like chinese or indian tribe who want to exploit our country in the fuuture 😥
@@jhondoe4526 only malay and dayak? What are you talking about, where Semai, Bateq, Temiar, Senoi, Bulungan, Sulu, Sungai, Kadazan goes?
The religion composition of Malaysia is not as shown in the video.
As of the 2020 Population and Housing Census, 63.5 percent of the population practices Islam; 18.7 percent Buddhism; 9.1 percent Christianity; 6.1 percent Hinduism; and 2.7 percent other religion or no information.
Points mentioned in this video is by far the most accurate than most comparison videos out there. I was also caught by surprise that Buddhism is not as populated in Malaysia....hmm maybe times have changed 🤔
See the pinned comment for a correction to the religion statistics.
Basic close-to-fact research, very good... i give this video a B+ rating
Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Brunei , Thailand , Taiwan , Philippines, we all Nusantara
Love both countries
Yep. I concur with all 7 (8 actually) that you presented.
The method of independence for the two countries was also different, namely Indonesia by attacking the colonialists while Malaysia was given independence by the British
FYI, since 2008, Indonesia's law prohibit the use of the term "Pribumi" (native Indonesian) in an attempt to fight discrimination against race and ethnicity.
Its LAW? Link, please.
@@GEOfocusChannel This might help 👇
www.bphn.go.id/data/documents/98ip026.pdf
@@GEOfocusChannel hi, Geofocus. The prohibtion cna be found under UU No 40 tahun 2008 tentang Penghapusan Diskriminasi Ras Dan Etnis and the Instruksi Presiden Nomor 26 tahun 1998 tentang Menghentikan Penggunaan Istilah Pribumi dan Nonpribumi dalam Semua Perumusan dan Penyelenggaraan Kebijakan, Perencanaan Program, ataupun Pelaksanaan Kegiatan Penyelenggaraan Pemerintahan. Dalam Ingub. We are now called Warga Negara Indonesia (People of Indonesia)
As Indonesian, I love Upin, Ipin & Kak Ros.
Let's sing brother don't combat on comment😂
Tanam-tanam ubi, tak perlu di bajak
Orang yang berbudi, pandai berbahase
Naik kereta api, turun padang tembak
Kalau tak hati-hati, kita kan terjebak
Semarakkan hari ini, kita nyanyi ramai-ramai
Goyang badan gerak kaki, Laungkan lagu damai✨✨
OK(Not fighting just say ok)
Great video!
I love Malaysia and Indonesia!
They have wonderful tropical fruits and harmony multicultural society!
New channel of Paul
It’s not really new, but I’ve reactivated it. 👍🏻
Malaysia Was Not Only Invaded By British But Also Invaded By Portugese, Dutch, And Japanese
So was Indonesia, plus Spain.
Just malaka
@@landove1486 lol, we got 1 more huh..., where did spain land again? already forgot..
@@landove1486 and France
Historically some part of Malaya was also invaded by foreign forces such as SriVijaya and Majapahit Empire.. and some other parts which originally belong to Siamese Kingdom but later on seceded to British
As an Indonesian myself, another major differences between the 2 countries are how worse traffic jam in Jakarta compare to Kuala Lumpur, and how fluent Malaysians in speaking English compare to Indonesians in general. Great video anyway
Didn't know there could be an Indonesian with the name of Awang as that name only can be found (from my limited observation) on the East coast of Malaysia, especially Kelantan. If you don't mind, what ethnicity you are?
@@hammerfall6666 hello there, thank you for your comment. My ancestors are Chinese, they live in south Borneo (Kalimantan) since almost a century ago. The funny part of my name is most Indonesians in Java mistakenly thought that I'm a Malaysian. LOL
Interesting.
good point
im from malaysia...I still remember when I was a kid there is some books written as Tas tangan (handbag) wonder how come the name becomes not so popular and went into disused
Thanks for the video..
Most Malaysians muslim are conservative especially in West Malaysian or Peninsular Malaysia.
In East Malaysia or Malaysian Borneo are different. Different ethnics, which is islam in faith, are look more secular(Muslim Secular). Sometime, being conservative will destroy our ethnic's cultures. we came from different ethnics, religions, cultures. Diverse ethnics in Malaysia, make Malaysia and Malaysians are special.
When I was primary school, my teacher said, long time ago around 1200y one of a kingdom at the Sumatera Selatan called Sriwijaya, they build new kingdom in Malaysia, Brunei darussalam, and Singapore is a part of Malaysia before. That's why Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei darussalam speak malay