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Bul Armory SAS II Tac 4.25 - A Staccato for Less?
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- The Bul Armory SAS II Tac 4.25 is a service sized gun in the single action only vein. They're made in Israel and tough to find but absolutely fantastic shooters.
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0:00 Intro
0:46 Overview
2:29 Why would you want an SAO gun?
5:51 Tac 425
10:07 Negatives
11:45 Conclusion
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We've come full circle, now we've got valid arguments for a manual safety, hammer-fired gun. Just a couple more years and folks will be back to my favorite, DA/SA with decocker.
Walther P99 / Canik TP9 DA (👈🏼my favorite).
@@v.german11b I LOVE that gun, I only stopped carrying it because I was concerned I wouldn't be able to easily replace it.
@@GBGuns the P99 or the TP9 DA?
@@GBGuns I really love the decocker on my HK45! I prefer a decocker to a safety. Of course the HK45 has both
Unless it's a berretta 92 Jesus that da is horrible
I was able to buy a Bul 1911 in .45 ACP for $550 used(very lightly, if at all). I got rid of my Kimbers, Springfields and Colts as the Bul quickly became my favorite.
Damn good deal! I'm jealous 🤤
@Wade Irwin Wheelin' and Dealin', Congrats!
Similar experience as me. Bought a Desert Eagle 1911 ( made by BUL ) years ago for $600. Beats any Kimber and easily matches up against $1000 Springfields.
Was it a commander in stainless? I may be the one who sold that to you!
@@nolatone no, it was 5” full size.
Picked up the bul 1911 9mm. Slide is like butter and accurate. Love it and it truly is made to shoot.
Ditto - my Bul 1911 9mm Trophy Saw is my most accurate pistol . Check out the Armanov 1911 asymmetrical CNC Alu grips - Best 1911 upgrade IMO
Yeah those guns look extremely accurate I kind of fell in love with the ultralight as my carry.
as a lefty, one of the first things I learned was how to hit the mag release with my trigger finger, some right handed people even like to wrong side the mag release so they can do the same, as using your trigger finger for the mag release doesn't require breaking your grip and you're already removing your finger from the trigger guard for the reload.
Couldn't agree more. Back in the day shooting USPSA I used a conversion made by Smith&Alexander on all my 1911's that allowed you to move the mag release to the other side and being a "righty" meant using trigger finger (which has to come off the trigger any way) when doing mag changes.
That's another plus for the H&K/Walther paddle mag release. Your finger barely left the trigger guard and you're swapping mags.
Derp.
These are a great option! I really like the 4.25 Comp version!
You’re absolutely correct about them not being wildly available. Locally the only Bul that I have seen was the polymer Cherokee. Beautiful handgun. Thank you very much for sharing it with us
Out of dozens of guns I’ve purchased, I’ve bought one locally and I e lived in top ten metropolis most of my life. It just happened to be a semi custom 1911 used for 70% of its msrp. No way you can have the inventory without this thing called the internet, unless you want to pay 20% more.
Thanks again, David, for another smart, accurate review. Well, we now own 2 handguns in common (and a sense of humor). I have the previous generation of this gun - the Bul Sas II Tac Commander w/ fiber optic iron sights bought 1.5 years back for $1350. Have found it to be superb - GREAT trigger, endlessly reliable, comfortable w/ great ergonomics & feel, and very accurate / low recoil for its size. I use this as my home pistol, but certainly enjoy bringing it to the range often. Also bought the MPA DS9 Hybrid about 5 months back (prior to seeing your review), as my super-premium perfection piece (which I'll start shooting in September - when I believe I'll finally be worthy of its magnificence😃). And hoping / praying my lovely wife will buy me the Staccato XL for our 10th Anniversary in December - sending hints & suggestions galore. Might I suggest you take a look at / review the Tanfoglio Defiant Limited Master ... it's barely ever reviewed, and I find it to be a super-accurate, smooth, soft-shooting, affordable, out-of-the-box, entry-to-mid-level competetion gun for Limited. Of everything I've shot over the past 2 years - I haven't seen it surpassed (for $1,300, that is). Would love to hear your opinion on it above just about anyone else. Just a suggestion. Cheers, SJR
I always wanted a 1911, saw a couple of reviews of the commander in 9mm with the heavy barrel. I got my about 2 months ago and it has become my favorite 9mm. I'm not an expert but fit and finish is excellent, trigger is just 2 lbs overall it's a great value. They are a little hard to find and in Long Island NY, they are like a "good politician".... nobody has ever seen one.
To be fair, Yeager was right when he said that 10+ years ago... Design/technology/the market has blessed us with much better equipment now.
I was a couple of weeks away from ordering a Staccato C2, but I might take a closer look into this Tac 4.25.
For 6 mo I tried to buy a Bul SAS II Tac 4.25 . NO CAN DO. I was on every list, to get one, Bul put in on a list and NEVER got a call from anyone. So I bought a Beretta M9A4 With Optis Bundle Steiner Red Dot. Would Love a Bul, sure I will get this one down the road I hope...
Great review. Definitely the best in the game! I haven’t seen a Staccato P DPO review but i did see your C2 review. I chose the staccato p DPO over this gun because i was more familiar with them. I should of got it in .40 cal so i could shoot limited division with it. I still might give it a shot in limited minor. Maybe it won’t be that hard to keep up.
I shoot in limited minor and although I'm at a disadvantage, it's still fun.
I recently (2 weeks ago?) found this channel, quickly becoming one of my favorites! Bul & Masterpiece are on my radar, and you have good content on both.
Welcome aboard!
Same here after researching Bul Armory! Now if they can keep them in stock or on order now days.
Thanks for sharing your opinion on Bul Armory.
Great, Honest review as usual! Not the same old bought with product schill common on the googletube these days. Man I want the Bul Armory Tac 2 4.25". I've been looking and watching reviews for a year now. I wish they were more available. I am going to call Bul and check again when I get enough nickels saved up. I didn't realize they use the old Para mag design over the Staccatto. Maybe my old RIA mags will work as well. Up until now I've had a RIA Doublestack 1911 commander , that I have outfitted with Wilson parts. Its fine for what it is but I want to move up in quality and go to a Holosun optic. That pretty much leaves Staccato and Bul and Atlas etc in doublestack guns. The Bul is the only one that is affordable.
Love your videos. After watching this one and several others I made the leap and ordered one. Boy did it take a long time to get one! If you didn't order immediately after the notification email went out, you were SOOL. Anyways, got mine delivered today. Put 250 rounds through it and what an amazing piece of craftsmanship. Great trigger (though a little light for my taste) and deadly accurate with iron sights (25 yards)right out of the box. Will add an optic next. Thanks for your amazing review, it gave me the confidence to order one!
I have a SAS II Tac Government 9mm. I guess you call it the first gen of the Bul. It's probably one of the most fun guns I own to shoot. And it hits way above it's price point. Only negatives, magazines are expensive and hard to come by. If Limited Minor was ever a thing it would be a fantastic choice.
What's the slide to frame fit like? I know it's not a Wilson or a Nighthawk or something, but is it relatively tight/smooth? I really want either this gun, or maybe the 5" version, or even one of their "traditional"/single stack 1911s.
What's your take on it compared to the newer guns?
I have four of these 2 in 4.25 and 2 in 5.0 each one is a different finish slide and frame. They are the Best Also have several 1911’s in the classic, TAC and EDC. The fit and finish is second to none. Great trigger and really fun to shoot. Have a local dealer in my area GP ARMS and he is great to work with. Give Gilbert a call very knowledgeable I’m sure you have come across him in the competition world. He was one of there first dealers in USA. Always has great inventory. I highly recommend the BUL ARMORY PISTOLS. I pretty much got rid of my other 1911’s after I got turned to them. A pure joy to shoot. Great review as usual always learn something from them 👍👍
Does the 5.0 inch shoot better than the 4.25?
If you wanna sell one hit me up haha I need one of these
Would you rate this better than Staccato C2 for concealed carry and home defense as well
how did you find it?
Great job on review! Awesome gun, after seeing your review I ordered one from Miami. Shipped in 3 days! Gun is well made, very accurate. If you have the direct e-mail , no issues with customer service. I'm still waiting on my MPA DS9 hybrid you reviewed. Over 12 weeks. I think you were spot on about the Bul Armory 4.25 . Thanks
glad it's working well!
EXCELLENT Review! Thanks for taking the time on this. I cut my teeth in the USMC on the 1911 platform and have never looked back. Recently the new crop of 2011s on the market have given me some pause. The BUL looks to be the absolute best value for what you can get. I just need to convince the CFO of our household that I need it. 🤔
i own the bul and the walther Q4sf you may want to check out the walthers the pdp and the q4sf are more accurate than my bul. If i was to do it over i would own 3 walthers, the ppq the pdp and my q4sf.
I like them better than STI. The BUL SAS II Viper is my favorite pistol of all time. Shreds. The mags are based of Para mags I believe which means Rock Island armory mags should work too.
Bul found the sweet spot on quality, function and price. Have the sas-ll and wishing they made a dot version so this is encouraging to see.
Picked up the Bul Armory 45 Government and that is a fantastic shooting gun! Excellent machining, accurate as a mofo, and looks great! Love your videos David, I will look into the TAC as I'd like a 9mm 1911.
from where?
@@thephantomzoneboxing I got it from Magnum Ballistics for $799
Love to see an update on this one
Love you're videos ! Love the humerus content you add to them ! Thank you for your service !
I appreciate the video and your comment about fundamentals…guns are like golf clubs, even the best of them in the hands of a shooter with poor fundamentals won’t make any difference…ask me how I know, but I still love to look ‘em all over.
Picked up 2 Bul pistols last year just before X-Mas (couldn't make up my mind between 9 mm and .45 ACP as BOTH are Excellent choices, and Heck! It's Christmas - just put'em on the card...!). Lol...
Can't wait to get my hands on the pistol you've reviewed (Great commentary and review on the pistol, by the way!).
I'll be checking out your channel from now on, on more Great Reviews on Firearms.
(By the way, being big and tall is a PLUS...Isn't it? Carrying a 1911 Full Size without it even "printing" even in the Summertime, is Great...!. Haha!
RIP James Yeager. Good video on this gun, looking at getting one.
Great video as always! I recently got their new 4.25’’ tac light aluminum frame while picking up a transfer at my local FFL and I’m super impressed. Phenomenal shooter at a great value. I was also on the list for a SAS 4.25 tac comp and got an email from BUL this week. out for delivery as we speak! Very excited
I'm waiting on my Tac Light now. Gonna have to put an Ambi Safety on it I'm a lefty. I will definitely go with Green Fiber Optic front sights to match my Hayes Customs RIA 1911/2011
@@teamtate322 how does it shoot?
@@paulh6101 The RIA runs like a sewing machine. After the Hayes Customs magic I would put it up against any gun on the market. I have the race gun pkge. The Bul Armory is a Tac Driver. The polymer grip makes it very light. The recoil is soft and smooth.
@@teamtate322 nice. I've read horror stories about customer service making rethink purchasing
@@paulh6101 Hopefully I won't have to use customer service. So far so good.
The only thing that would make Bul 1911s better is if they made them with full length dust covers and slab slides.
Straighten one leg of a staple gun staple for a guide rod tool. Easier, and you generally always have access to staples in your range bag
big brain stuff right here.
I love the 1911 platform. Most people that bash it are normally in two categories... #1 Never even held a 1911 platform gun and #2 Purchased it, took it to the range one time and then never trained on it again and complained about how awful it was..
Mann I really love this video love the way you illustrate everything got one question why haven’t you considered staccato , cause I love this , and was considering buying one of these Just cause of the way you reviewed it 😊
I have staccatos now - they have better coatings - the Bul compares favorably still - staccato is a bit higher spec
Awesome gun, awesome review, definitely interested. I’ve been looking at their SAS models as well. Thanks for the video.
Bul armory looks good but the only problem with the Bul armory pistols is they don’t use staccato/2011 mags. You have to buy specific bul armory mags.
Great review! Really toying w getting one of these.
Just bought the 5" gun from Bul Armory USA. Thanks for the video!
How are you enjoying the 5 inch?
Bul should offer this gun with their compact grip (16rds).
Rob, did u end up buying Staccato C2 or this one. I’m still deciding.
@@lgonlinetv neither. I bought some more Sigs and a couple new golf clubs lol.
I have 4.25 Comp a d wish I could get regular barrel for it so I can shoot it in IDPA , but BulArmory said no when I asked about replacement barrel , was told it will void warranty. Thinking just getting aftermarket barrel and have it fitted.
I had the same marks on mine from the button on my jeans rubbing when carrying appendix.
Does anyone know what the delivery timeline on these are running right now?I hear theres a scammer sight out there offering quick delivery,but I've never seen any posts mentioning how long it took to get one.
Was the shiner from not asking your old lady before buying another Bul!! Lol another quality vid brother
I’d really like to get one of these in the future. It’s a lot of gun for the money, in my opinion. I have the SAS UL2, everyone loves it when they see it or pick it up. Holster options are tough, especially since I have a light on it. The guys at Priority One tell me they’re in the beginning stages of making holsters for it with the TLR-7A installed. I’m waiting patiently. Great video, thank you.
My UL fits in my C2 Tenicor holster. It’s a hair tight but it fits. I can probably loosen it up a bit to not be as tight if I want
@@jvz1448 Thank you for the heads up, I’ll have to check it out.
@@mi_cheap_guns2925 no problem, I have a TLR7 on mine as well
@@mi_cheap_guns2925 no problem, I have a TLR7 on mine as well
Great review. I have a Bul 1911 Stainless Commander with bull barrel this is absolutely awesome for $800
Buls are always sold out everywhere and i bought a walther q4sf and now my sas 2 ultralight never gets used,
@thehumblemarksman
For IDPA, which would you choose between a CZ Shadow 2 (assuming it made weight at 45 ounces) or the SAS II Tac Pro (ported, 30 ounces)? Which do you think would have faster follow-up shots? I've heard porting reduces recoil about 30 percent over the same non-ported pistol. However, would love to hear more about if you think a heavier gun or lighter, ported gun would better reduce recoil and have faster follow-up shots. I think that would be a great video you have knowledge about!
Damnit, I just ordered a S&W M&P 2.0 PC CORE...... Now I need to get one of these. I got to save up for one and the magazines.
Never understood the manual safety complaint. Especially from guys who say they train or use an ar for home def or truck gun or whatever.
Nice pistol. Sticking with my 2011 Staccato XL tho.
Comparing this to the XL I definitely would stick with that one too
They raised their prices on all sas models since they gained popularity
Very nice pistol and not that expensive really. About like a couple tanks of gas and a cart load of groceries . . . and way more fun.
I've been waiting on this review for weeks.
I'm a smaller person, only about 5'-8" tall and only weigh about 110 lb so I'm pretty skinny. I've been carrying my CZ Shadow 2 in an appendix inside waistband holster for about the past year now. The only part that gets annoying is how heavy it is.
I like my standard video game controller, it allows more room for error. It's not as sensitive so I have a few milliseconds to make adjustments before I engage the trigger controls. (G19)
When I use those new fangled high speed tech fine tuned gaming controllers, they are so sensitive to every little movement that you have no room for error, thus you can't make those quick human reactionary adjustments before engaging the trigger controls... (Staccatos)
you can develop a more sensitive trigger finger - but you can't do that on a 5-6# trigger.
@@TheHumbleMarksman But do we really want our booger pickers that sensitive?
@7:27 you said the Frame was Steel. That is actually incorrect information. It's aluminum and one of the reasons it's lighter weight making it decent for carry .. just figured you'd wanna issue a correcting addendum stating that pinned at the top. But other than that great stuff as always! Thank you!
no - it's not incorrect information because the models changed in 23/24. Mine is in fact steel - it's a 21 or 22. The frame is magnetic. In 23 it was aluminum unless you bought Pro and 24 they changed again where they introduced the EDC version of the gun and the Tac version got an update - with pro models still available.
@@TheHumbleMarksman wow thank you very much for clearing that up with me and humbling me. Here I am thinking I had accurate information which is completely false. Even before I posted this comment I was like I've never heard of the SAS II TAC with a steel frame so I Googled it just in case so I didn't look stupid in case they offered it in steel and all the info I sorted through certainly told me there was no steel framed version and when I felt confident that i was correct in my assumption I posted this comment. I guess that goes to that there's always room to learn something new! Thank you very much for making me look foolish hahaha but in a good way. I definitely don't mind eating a slice of humble pie every now and again. Much respect !
No worries - this stuff happens a lot believe it or not - a model changes and folks watch with the current model in mind
Nicely Presented! Carry On
Love the channel! Have a CGW P01 as my do all and EDC. Decided to pull the trigger on a 2011. In between this and the C2. The bul is longer and heavier, not really by much though really. How would you say the muzzle flip/recoil compare? Are the shooting characteristics worth the length and weight for a EDC. The lifetime staccato warranty with more aftermarket are also a plus.
Thanks for another great review. Now it’s off to find one…
The 2023 model comes with aluminium frame part, woud that be just as good as the steel one. Was gooing to order one her in Norway, but when I notised that is was changed to alu then I had to think about it some more. Great channel by the way
Yeah they updated it this year
@@TheHumbleMarksman Is the alu a update? for a high round count gun, steel woud be better
I’ve been on the Ultimate Racer list since you uploaded your last Ultimate Racer video. Sucks waiting lol
LOVE MY STACCATO C2 9MM WITH GREEN DOT
I think I’ll buy American but decent choice if you wanna save a few bucks. I’ll take the C2.
Phenomenal guns (when they’re properly built) but if you expect customer service, be prepared to wait forever. It’s non-existent.
I have to agree with you💯 percent, I recently purchased the SAS 2 TAC 4.25 this past Thursday from my FFL and noticed the barrel and guide rod had major scratches along with the pvd finish underneath the guide rod chipped off as well as a different optic plate that’s not advertised in the pictures on there site which looks worn and scratched and I immediately called there Miami location just to get their voicemail I left messages and emails with pictures to show the difference between what they have on their site versus what I’ve gotten along with the cosmetic issues and had I known the it would be this difficult to actually talk with someone especially if something goes wrong with the firearms, I would have paid the extra money for the customer service
@@rockwithfonz8424 I purchased a sas 2 ul, and first day I took it to range, the sights (rear and front) came apart. Immediately contacted them with no answer and no way to leave a voicemail. Over 150 times I called with no way to get anyone on phone. I also emailed over a dozen times with no response. Finally gave up and had to have a gunsmith fix the gun. Very disappointing. Hope you’re issue turns out better than mine.
Bul Arm has a problem fixing problems in there post purchase warr. Meaning if you have a problem with it cycling it on you.
They will not help you with a FF/FB problem.
Great video as always!
The Bul Armory Tac is very difficult to find.
Anyone else having noticeable difficulty with reinserting the slide stop when reassembling their Bul Armory SAS II TAC 4.25 like me? Any suggestions is much appreciated. (Bul Armory customer service is failing to get back with me to assist me with the slide stop issue I'm experiencing.)
Great video! For home defense, range toy, and otherwise not specifically for EDC, what would be your ranked choices between the Bul SAS TAC II 4.25, vs the SAS II TAC 5, vs the Staccato P?
Always government if you're not talking EDC
Shot after a customer allow me to, and the weapon is butter❤️
I had to watch this after the Springfield prodigy dropped and chance we can get a head to head with the Springfield the bul and sti of the 4.25 “ verity?
I don’t have an STI. I need to figure that out
@@TheHumbleMarksman apologies a staccato I just refuse to call them that lol I’m sure you knew what I meant all honesty the bul and Springfield would be fine as well that’s what I would like an honest comparison on but curious how close they are to the sti/staccato
Beautiful gun!
You say you “really really LIKE this pistol” therefore which pistol of that size and weight do you actually LOVE??
Very detailed review with that BDE!
Please advise
But the real question is- if money wasn’t a concern, would you rather carry a P DPO?
Well actually if you are going to carry a gritty gravel trigger glock it should actually be a G45 gen 5
Love this channel
Lego wound to your right eye, tells me you need to work on your Star Wars trivia
Why can’t you find any of these or the 5 inch anywhere?
Email usa@bularmrory.com is your best chance
Well, finally a proper bul pistol review. Thanks 👍. Would you consider to make one on an axe (or whatever model of a duty one that you have)?
Yes waiting on optics screws to finish that video
Great review
I'm so offended! You called me a nut! Good video. I hope my fundamentals, aren't that nutty?
I have a good video funny wouldn’t know you were 64 on the videos that’s for sure… That is my type a gun. All around… like you said the biggest negative is price and availability . Not many people know this staccato offers military 15% off .
I am a military veteran.
My question would be do you think staccato is really better then Bull ? Thanks
Since you seem to be close to Bul, could you maybe get a loaner Bullesteros and review it (and compare it to the ULTIMATE RACER)?
And maybe the Tac 4.25 Comp, and how effective it is (especially with +p self defense ammo)?
Now if only these were as available as staccato.. or at least had an online ordering system. They’re missing out big time by not having one
Exactly I got a staccato C2 love it but can’t find where to order bul fire arms
BUL Armory's website is set up as a webstore now. Except for both Tac models, just about everything else is available on their site including spare magazines.
Are you expecting more 2011 guns being produced for limited optics? I would love to see a Sig 2011 with a tungsten infused grip module! Tell Phil lol
Ultimate racerrrr... Lol.. Love it
That’s a really nice gun!
I see that the muzzle flip with this handgun is way less than your gov. Size bull armory handgun review.
Why is that? I always wanted a full size 9mm 1911 but seeing this makes me re-think it. Thanks in advance, love your vids.
My government is a 45- this is a 9
@TheHumbleMarksman Ah I see! If they were both in 9mm, is there much difference?
I mean, it's less than a Staccato, but not by much. It's a 1900.00 gun. It's pretty much preference at that point
Optics ready staccato is 2650
Have you tried the bul armory sas ii ultralight?
David hi curious did your SAS Tac come with any scratches on the tip of the barrel and guide rod face underneath the barrel
No it was pristine when I got mine
@@TheHumbleMarksman wow because mine has little stress/scratch marks on it and they said all barrels and guide rods are scratched because of the mechanical part? I’m so confused with what there telling me is normal and I am no gunsmith but I to believe it should be in pristine condition but thank you for reaching back out to me
Bul armory killing it lately. That price is a little easier to justify than the staccato for sure.
Do the grips feel similar between the bul and staccato or is one the clear winner?
Thank you for the review.
I've held both and thought that the Staccato was bulkier and less comfortable, just my opinion though.
@@TallTimbersUSA Thanks for this info. I sold a Staccato P because the grip felt like a 2 x 4 in my hands. Now I'll look into the Bul
Id like to see how you get you footage from matches and how you decide where to put it for the best footage for the stage during a sanctioned event
Outside of co witnessing, can you shoot well with the front sight being all black. Was wondering incase the optic malfunctions
This or MPA IDPA model for 2gun and 3gun (and I guess IPDA)?
the heavier gun is a bit more tame - the 5" version is better than 4" without a comp.
I've definitely been trying to find one in STOCK at my LGS. I've always wanted to own 2011 again .
Why did it go up so much in the last year? Staccato is just a few miles from my home and does NOT cost 6-700 bucks more and doesn't have to be sent over seas for warranty work for months if needed. Other than that I had a request in for one, but not paying hundreds more for a few months difference of when I put in the order. GRRRRRR!!!
It was a true bargain with high quality. It is still of high quality. But no longer a bargain by a long shot!
KnifeMaker
I haven’t seen a P DPO for less than 2400 and you still have to buy the $100 plate. They have a gunsmith in Miami who can do warranty work.
@@TheHumbleMarksman that is good to know about the Miami gunsmith. Thanks.
So what's a good 45 caliber pistol that has a 13 round mag?I looked at Rock island 1911A1 14+1 that was nice.
Thanks for the review! Any idea if the .40 126mm mags will work with this model?
So... as a current Staccato owner, who is eligible for the the discount program which will get me to price parity, would you get another Staccato or on of these. (Side not IIRC if you remove the grip module it is about 10 mins of finessing the frame to get Staccato nags to work. MDX mags are just a few thou narrower near the top)
If you are in the staccato ecosystem already the difference isn’t that great - I would just get trigger jobs on my Stacatto and call it good
If they could only ditch the grip safety, that would be awesome
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Where do I buy one of these beautiful toys?
Would you suggest this or the 5” as a CO IDPA gun?
Yes 5” over a 4”. I haven’t put one in the box but I imagine it would fit