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  • Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
  • Comparing three double stack 1911 or 2011 style guns - the Staccato P, the Springfield Armory Prodigy, and the Bul Armory Tac 425.
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Комментарии • 739

  • @TheHumbleMarksman
    @TheHumbleMarksman  9 месяцев назад +3

    Be sure to check out thehumblemarksman.locals.com for more behind the scenes footage.

  • @Yellow_Flannel
    @Yellow_Flannel Год назад +398

    All double stack 1911 should cost no more than $1776.

    • @qdog5678
      @qdog5678 Год назад +39

      Agreed and if any double stack cost more than 2,000 it better have zero recoil and can take any ammo you throw at it with no jams.

    • @2nd_a_dad4791
      @2nd_a_dad4791 Год назад +8

      This is the way

    • @boldlionpro2814
      @boldlionpro2814 Год назад +2

      Here! Here! 💪🏼

    • @jesusquiroz2449
      @jesusquiroz2449 Год назад +3

      Staccato's are over $2000

    • @randominternetprofile8270
      @randominternetprofile8270 Год назад +43

      @@jesusquiroz2449 right over your head

  • @Quality_Guru
    @Quality_Guru Год назад +77

    You can't help yourself - even when reviewing 3 different pistols you still provide us with valuable training advice that we don't get to hear anywhere else. At 14:35 is the first time that I heard that a lower trigger weight will assist you in developing the dexterity/flexibility in your finger to better feel the trigger and thus enable you become a better shooter with practice. It seems counter intuitive, but you make absolute sense when you stop and think about it.

  • @gagunshooting803
    @gagunshooting803 Год назад +19

    I recently bought the 4.25 Prodigy. I had about 12 FTF out of 150 rounds shooting it straight out too the box. Cleaned it and ran another 120rounds with one FTF. Took it home and cleaned it and noticed that it was super dirty from shooting such a low round count but I just chalked it up to possibly being just dirty ammo. I then ran across a video where a guy bought a brand new Prodigy that had no rounds shot through it and when he got it home he cleaned it and his was just as dirty as mine after shooting the 120 rounds. It was concluded that it was the cerakote wearing off from the slide and frame. He ended up doing a manual break in of 3k manual racks of the slide and cleaning about every 250 racks, each time resulting in more and more cerakote wearing off. I did the same break in of 3.5k and took it out to the range and shot 300 rounds without any issue. I’m still doing some manual racks to continue to break it in…with each 250 racks I am getting less cerakote wearing off after each cleaning. I highly suggest new owners of the Prodigy to do a manual break in.

    • @TheHumbleMarksman
      @TheHumbleMarksman  Год назад +3

      Good info

    • @TheAmerican1963
      @TheAmerican1963 9 месяцев назад +2

      I believe I know the video you are talking about and he was right. The cerakote was a problem that he fixed. Good call !!! 🙂

    • @jimmysp4des229
      @jimmysp4des229 6 месяцев назад +2

      I saw this comment when it was a week old, followed the instructions, but probably manually racked mine about 6k times, never had an issue since.
      Thanks.

    • @gagunshooting803
      @gagunshooting803 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@jimmysp4des229 GREAT!!! I’m glad that you saw the comment and that you did the manual break in. The Prodigy is a sweet shooter and it can be disappointing when you take it out and it fails on you.

    • @gregmatherne7173
      @gregmatherne7173 4 месяца назад +2

      I have a Prodigy 4.25 barrel and haven’t had 1 issue. I’ve only ran 200-225 thru mine. Cleaned it for the 1st time last night and damn.. it was filthy!! I’ll start implementing your suggestions and see how it responds

  • @Bend-Oregon
    @Bend-Oregon Год назад +14

    One of the very best gun comparison video's I have ever seen. Tons and tons of fantastic information here, presented quickly and thoroughly. We'll done! Love the Bul Armory Tac!

  • @JC-cv3up
    @JC-cv3up Год назад +43

    I have the 5” Prodigy and it’s running great. I did change the recoil spring before shooting it to a 12# recoil spring. So far ran 650 rounds of Winchester, Federal, Remington and Browning with only one FTE (From Winchester). I did oil and clean as well before shooting it for the first time. I also decided to change out the disconnector because there was a drag. I changed it to the Wilson combat disconnector and I did notice a significant improvement but every now and then I do feel a drag after racking it manually a bunch of times. I would say the next step would be tuning the sear if I want it completely drag free. However, from old 1911 timers from forums that have experience with 1911s, they say that disconnector drag goes away if I keep shooting 🤷🏻‍♂️. I do enjoy the gun a lot and glad I bought it the only expensive part to add on is the guide rod replaced with a Dawson precision tool less guide rod. I wish Springfield never used that guide rod that needs a tool 😕. Just wanted to offer my experience with the Spring Field Prodigy 5”.

    • @NotGonnaTel
      @NotGonnaTel Год назад +4

      Have the prodigy 5” and put in a 12 lb spring, it runs great. Zero issues now!

    • @locoflahute8916
      @locoflahute8916 Год назад +3

      Add enough Dawson Precisions parts and you'll end up w a Staccato!

    • @rayemenears8996
      @rayemenears8996 Год назад

      Too many problems so far.

    • @chriss7991
      @chriss7991 Год назад

      @@locoflahute8916 lol

    • @AS-vk4kf
      @AS-vk4kf Год назад

      As a newbie 1911 shooter, would it be recommended to get the bul since you did spend more for the prodigy upgrade?

  • @josephhacker5358
    @josephhacker5358 Год назад +130

    I think you have to re-enact the diving football catch into sand as a "torture test" for each gun. I don't make the rules, but those are the rules.

    • @TheHumbleMarksman
      @TheHumbleMarksman  Год назад +41

      Damn he’s right

    • @lbwlawyer
      @lbwlawyer Год назад +8

      Complete with slow motion. Music from NFL Films would be preferable, but might be tricky due to rights issues.

    • @lbwlawyer
      @lbwlawyer Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/W12J7BYlj-E/видео.html

    • @giantfever6322
      @giantfever6322 Год назад +9

      @@TheHumbleMarksman we’re shilling for this reenactment to happen.

    • @geebeaux
      @geebeaux Год назад +4

      Im down with that, but no Nerf balls. And I dont know how they grade sand.. but.. coarse.

  • @granddad-mv5ef
    @granddad-mv5ef Год назад +9

    Oddly, I do not remember seeing your channel prior to today. But certainly happy to see your video. I have been promoting BUL 1911s to anyone who would listen for five years; but they are still difficult to find. You produce a very good video, thank you!

  • @jophoto934
    @jophoto934 Год назад +6

    Stumbled on this video. Very glad I did! I’ve been shooting for 53 years. Have competed for 3 decades and carried for duty and protection for 3 decades. It is so nice to finally find someone that actually knows what he is talking about and also understands what is important comparing handguns. Great video. I’ll be looking for more.

  • @patgleason2993
    @patgleason2993 2 месяца назад +2

    I'm digging these 2011 comparisons. Great job! Answering the questions on all of our minds

  • @herman66mi83
    @herman66mi83 Год назад +9

    I think you provided a pretty accurate summary of + and - of MIM manufactured parts. Competition amongst the manufacturers is good for consumers.

  • @stovepipe8966
    @stovepipe8966 Год назад +27

    I’d take the Bul cause I have one of their 1911’s and the triggers are generally better OotB for an off the shelf 1911/2011 . IMO, this platform is really all about the trigger. I guess if you want to carry one , you may want a heavier trigger pull but that’s what the safety is for ? The assumption being, once you’ve taken the safety off , you intend on firing the pistol .

    • @elihollingsworth6852
      @elihollingsworth6852 Год назад

      Bul armory is insane quality for the price. They make the desert eagle 1911s.

  • @auroraborealis2393
    @auroraborealis2393 Год назад +27

    Excellent video. You do a superb job of highlighting some of the details between these guns. Personally I don’t think a buyer would be disappointed in either of them, as long as they consider the guns intended role and buy accordingly. The small things matter.

  • @klausb1758
    @klausb1758 Год назад +5

    Dude. Awesome video. You're spot on. I bought the Prodigy to shoot, not carry. I even bought the 5" knowing I was never going to carry it AND it was heavier. I absolutely love shooting it.

  • @sanchezfamily2869
    @sanchezfamily2869 Год назад +2

    It's nice to hear your comments not dumbed down, as an engineer I appreciate the comments that make me learn so I know the reasons companies put in (or not) the features of a handgun. In my research I had already narrowed down my selection for a double-stack 1911 to the Springfield Armory Prodigy because of its features, shooting ability, and price in comparison to the pricier handguns at this stage of my usage.

  • @shellyrobinett9971
    @shellyrobinett9971 Год назад +3

    I must agree with you, I am old & prefer to stay at home at night. I use my lights, primarily, as a weight. My FN 45 Tactical is my bed side weapon & use that light as a light. Thank you for your content!

  • @darrelllynn2847
    @darrelllynn2847 Год назад +16

    Appreciate your middle of the road review; hitting the the high points of each pistol. Again, excellent review. Congrats on the growing viewership. I always like it when a Texas boy does well (;

  • @prone_wolf8871
    @prone_wolf8871 Год назад +11

    Excellent comparison, very unbiased and professional 👏.
    Now tell Bul they will make lots more sales if they get more product into the country.....love the looks of their shorty UR and their comped gun..

    • @donaldist7321
      @donaldist7321 4 месяца назад

      I hate the look of the comped UL! It looks like pig snout. I am actually waiting for them to change the design before I buy one.

  • @LordPerique
    @LordPerique Год назад +9

    Seems like a fair and balanced comparison review as I can imagine different people finding good reason to pick any three of these guns. Personally the Bul does it for me, once the Prodigy was announced I held out on buying one but this video was what i needed to finally make that decision. I see why someone would choose it, but the grip, safety, trigger, and carryability are all too important to me.

  • @3wheelmannc860
    @3wheelmannc860 Год назад +15

    I am really pulling for SA to knock this offering out of the park and for them to offer an upgraded version in the near future. I would buy a But Armory TAC immediately if one could be found at a reasonable price (not jacked up above MAP pricing. Staccato rocks, but that is above my pay grade or willingness to step up to that price.

  • @marksigel9701
    @marksigel9701 Год назад +3

    By far the best side by side review I’ve ever watched. Excellent detail. Changed my mind on which i like.

  • @assaultgoat3054
    @assaultgoat3054 Год назад +10

    I have both the Staccato P and the Prodigy. Day one after buying the Prodigy, it was jamming after every shot and I noticed after shooting a few rounds the slide was shaving metal off on either the safety or slide stop. The Prodigy is back on it’s way to Springfield within the week of owning it. Great video btw.

    • @sterlingcannonii7201
      @sterlingcannonii7201 Год назад +2

      I’m curious did you field strip, clean, and oil the firearm before firing?

    • @assaultgoat3054
      @assaultgoat3054 Год назад +1

      @@sterlingcannonii7201 no I didn’t. However, I did call Springfield before firing the gun and I informed that the Prodigy was catching on something when I would cycle the gun without a mag. They said to still shoot it and see if it loosens up.

    • @paulparadis66
      @paulparadis66 Год назад +8

      @@sterlingcannonii7201 That's not going to fix anything when these guns are shaving metal off. It's really sad what lengths people will go to to make excuses for companies with poor QC.

    • @rayemenears8996
      @rayemenears8996 Год назад +1

      Yeah they need to take this gun off the market until they fix it!

    • @RickDeckard2049
      @RickDeckard2049 Год назад

      @@sterlingcannonii7201 yeah the gun literally failing and tearing itself apart is because he didnt field strip it and oil it /s

  • @jeffrichardson4941
    @jeffrichardson4941 Год назад +7

    The staccato is the OG of these types of guns. The first one I ever shot and it’s been a goal since. I just can’t get myself to pony up that kind of coin for what is essentially a toy.

  • @davidn.3369
    @davidn.3369 Год назад +5

    Nice comparison video. I cannot wait to see the next comparing different barrel lengths.

  • @michaelphillips5786
    @michaelphillips5786 Год назад +2

    You are the surgical scalpel of reviewer's. But what's cool about you is the self deprecating humor and humor in general that you bring to the 2A community. I can show this gun review to non gun people and I think it would hold their attention and make them laugh. Most of all I think non gun people might come away with a different view of the 2A scene compared to what the big media likes to portray..
    I would love to see you and Colion Noir team up and do some gun review's together...

    • @wehrewulf
      @wehrewulf 4 месяца назад

      r e v i e w e r s

  • @juiceguy4784
    @juiceguy4784 Год назад +1

    Back in high school, my best bud's step dad was Virgil Tripp. The T in STI. I worked at STI for a summer. They were only making parts at the time. The only job a regret leaving.

  • @idahoag
    @idahoag Год назад +1

    The RUclips algorithm worked for me this time to show me you channel. Excellent and informative video.

  • @michaelmoreno4968
    @michaelmoreno4968 Год назад +3

    The grip safety counter was hilarious. Nice video man, keep it up!

  • @GBGuns
    @GBGuns Год назад +1

    THANK YOU for the point about MIM. People seem resistant to the concept that MIM technology has improved quite a bit. I've never had a MIM part break contrary to the lore out there.

    • @TheHumbleMarksman
      @TheHumbleMarksman  Год назад +1

      It’s in a ton of guns we consider the most reliable - I don’t get it

    • @GBGuns
      @GBGuns Год назад

      @@TheHumbleMarksman I don't either. Folks from the 1970's though continue to shout at their keyboards

    • @danielhenderson8316
      @danielhenderson8316 Год назад

      @@GBGunsI think it was your breakdown, but someone broke down a Bul and found all the mold marks and seems with filed off suggesting they were oversized and fitted to the gun. Tool steel is better, but if you're going to MIM, that's the way to do it.

  • @willo7734
    @willo7734 Год назад +41

    I’d love to see the Staccato comparison. I had a hard time deciding between the P and the C2 when I bought mine. I ended up going with the C2 but I’m still thinking about the P.

    • @308sniper3
      @308sniper3 Год назад +9

      I bought the optic ready P, love it but still think about the C2. Trying to figure out how to get another $3000 pistol past the wife.

    • @michellelawrence1775
      @michellelawrence1775 Год назад

      @@308sniper3 do you conceal carry the P? if so, do able?

    • @308sniper3
      @308sniper3 Год назад +2

      @@michellelawrence1775 I usually carry a Shadow MR920. Glock type clone. I would like to carry the P but losing $3000 worth of gun in a shooting would probably kill me from a heart attack. I personally like a full size gun so wouldn’t hesitate to carry it.

    • @codyhipp451
      @codyhipp451 Год назад +1

      I have a stacatto P and I love it. I carry it using an LAS appendix holster. My friend has a C2 and I personally didn’t like it nearly as much.

    • @perezdoitbest7540
      @perezdoitbest7540 Год назад

      @@308sniper3 lol

  • @mar1video
    @mar1video 3 месяца назад +1

    Phenomenal, very detailed comparison of three beautiful guns !

  • @jtaylorb88
    @jtaylorb88 Год назад +1

    Bought a staccato P today only because I couldn't find a bull armory around anywhere. When they get more made I'll be picking up that Bul Tac ASAP.

  • @jado4149
    @jado4149 Год назад +1

    This video confirmed it. I'm getting the Prodigy and putting a Cheely aluminum grip, EGW internals and lightening the slide. All finished will be about the same $ as Staccato with a much nicer grip and trigger. I was leaning Bul but already having 19 STI mags sealed the deal.

  • @bannoneldridge9269
    @bannoneldridge9269 6 месяцев назад +1

    This is probably the best gun review video I’ve ever seen. Ever. Honest opinion, no BS, all meat, no fluff. Thanks.

  • @waynecastleman1363
    @waynecastleman1363 Год назад +2

    Really good comparison you done here, my choice in the run BUL , Staccato, and Springfield, it's just a personal choice based on mostly price, weight , and what I'd rather carry. Well done 👍😎🇺🇸

  • @ryand5041
    @ryand5041 Год назад +1

    Massive value, one of my favorite guntubers, who has given me harsh criticism that I appreciated. No BS straight up this guy 💯 percent tells it like it is.

  • @Bryan-1980
    @Bryan-1980 Год назад +4

    I think you truly get what you pay for with these 3 examples, and the fact he uses the bul in competition and does really really well says a lot. I think the bul and the staccato are the best of the bunch and are pretty much stepping stones. Get the bul and master it, then get the staccato and remember why you love a 1911. Great no nonsense review Marksman!

  • @ytbenavraham9553
    @ytbenavraham9553 Год назад +1

    I have Bul EDC. I carry every day and I train every weekend. I have the bull 🐂 barrel. This pistol is amazing to shoot. I train with the 45 and the 9. I'm not worried about the ammo prices. I feel it's better to train like you fight. The trigger on the Bul is amazing.

  • @thefrogking481
    @thefrogking481 Год назад +1

    Been an STI guy for years, I see no reason to switch now. Virgil made my origional Eagle in 40, I still use it. My Costa Comp gets ran also, the C2 is my EDC.
    Yeah, I'm country and brand loyal.

  • @johnparrish9215
    @johnparrish9215 Год назад +3

    I'm looking forward to the Girsan 2311 and the LFA Apollo 11 coming out soon, the two are both 2011 style pistols that cost LESS than a thousand dollars.
    Your review on them both and assessment on how much it will cost to make them equal to the Bul Armory will be helpful.

  • @sp-yu1rr
    @sp-yu1rr Год назад +1

    FYI, as a left hander, I find the non flushed slide release invaluable. It's easy to lock and release using my left index finger.

    • @vita-girl4345
      @vita-girl4345 Год назад +1

      Ahh, I was wondering this. When I saw that comment, I kept thinking, why make it flush? I like my non flush one in my desert eagle. Then after seeing your comment it makes sense. I too am left handed!

  • @marksd5650
    @marksd5650 Год назад +1

    I’ve been disassembling my Springfield TRP with a hex key for about seven years, and it’s a hell of a lot easier to disassemble than my Nighthawks, simply because the slide to frame fit is so tight on the Nighthawk that it takes me 10 minutes to remove the slide stop. Geeez

  • @crooksight
    @crooksight Год назад

    Had my 4 1/4 inch prodigy to the range today she worked flawlessly both magazines and three different kinds of ammo very well pleased * did takedown , clean & lube first

  • @PatriotPaulUSA
    @PatriotPaulUSA Год назад

    Nice, the 3 newer 2011 style guns all together! I think of the 3 as the Staccatto as the Ferrari , Light weight, most expensive, most hand fitted and leader of the type. The Bul, the Ford GT, super light, fast and clean and finely machined but at a price point 1/3 less. The Springfield, the working mans version of the other 2. Kinda Corvette like. Built in the same style with lesser parts and less hand fitting, but at half the price of the Staccatto. I think your review summed them up very well. Glad to see the 3 guide rods compared! Nobody else has shown that. I am still saving for the Bul.

  • @traeucity6087
    @traeucity6087 Год назад

    I'm so glad you called out those who are quick to throw around the 'shill' label. You were classy and subtle about it, but you addressed it. Thank you.

  • @beware3586
    @beware3586 6 месяцев назад

    1911's love grease over oil in my experience. I have fully cleaned and lubed a gun, placed it away and grabbed it a year later for it to feel bone dry. Switched to grease and have a functioning lubricated gun years after cleaning.

    • @TheHumbleMarksman
      @TheHumbleMarksman  6 месяцев назад

      Depends on the gun and how much your are shooting - if you are shooting a lot eventually all the extra crap emulsifying the oil to make grease is stuck in the rails - introduce grit and it becomes a lapping compound. I would rather have to re-oil after storage - personally.

  • @chamberlin1
    @chamberlin1 Год назад +6

    Big takeaway from this video for me: BUL is finally getting a Mec-Gar magazine partnership! Whoohoo. That was final piece I've been waiting for before committing to a BUL SAS II Ultralight.

    • @stromjockey
      @stromjockey Год назад +1

      I caught that but my googlefoo is failing me and can't find actual reference for this anywhere

    • @chamberlin1
      @chamberlin1 Год назад +2

      @@stromjockey 😱 hope we can confirm this somehow!

    • @stromjockey
      @stromjockey Год назад +2

      @@chamberlin1 Found it on Bul's facebook page, post from Sep 9, will only be available from their distributors and technically for full frame guns, would stick out of UL grip

    • @chamberlin1
      @chamberlin1 Год назад +2

      @@stromjockey 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️damn, now I gotta get a full frame BUL too!

  • @thomaswalker9277
    @thomaswalker9277 Год назад +1

    Been wanting a good quality 2011 for a long time now. And I think the Bul is the best overall "bang for the your buck"

  • @aarondavis5519
    @aarondavis5519 Год назад +1

    Mr. Humble Marksman, you do a great video. Thanks for such a great comparison. I'm real excited about the SA Prodigy since I've wanted a Staccato but I'm a Glock shooter and think in Glock Currency - the Staccato costs like 5 Glocks. Not sure I'll still forego the Staccato for the Prodigy, but you're helping the decision...

  • @varyingpierced
    @varyingpierced Год назад

    I watched the Robbie Weaton video about the duramags and ordered the new springs, followers, and magazine spacers from Grams Engineering…
    I got the Dawson tooless guide rod and Taran Tac +1 base pads and I over lubed and racked the crap out of it (2500+) times and that got rid of tons of the Cerakote on the rails and completely got rid of the disconnecter drag….
    I have 500 rounds of 124 9mm coming…
    I’ll let you know how it goes…
    Great “Humble” review as always w/ the BDE…..lol

  • @keithbarjj6748
    @keithbarjj6748 Год назад

    I just got my first 1911/2011 or whatever you want to call it. I really wanted a staccato c2 but I just couldn’t justify it as a carry … that I probably will not carry that much as my custom Glock 43x or custom 19c is just much more comfortable, concealable, and lighter, at least after owning the prodigy 4” for 2 hours. I’m going to port my prodigy and get a trigger job, and swap out the internals. After I do this, I probably could have just bought a c2.. but … baby steps. Thanks for the video.

  • @WheeledandWellArmed
    @WheeledandWellArmed Год назад +1

    Great review, i have the Bul Armory SAS2 Commander and Staccato P and my Staccato P is my wouse.

  • @johnmoorefield76
    @johnmoorefield76 Год назад +1

    WOW, that was a long video David!! You killed it with your breakdown of these 3 awesome handguns! With the different price levels of the guns, most of us would probably be buying the Prodigy. From what you have said about the Prodigy and other RUclips channels, it will be a fine handgun to carry! Have a good one Brother!

  • @chokeout412
    @chokeout412 29 дней назад

    Best review I've seen so far. Great job.

  • @chris-pe2ml
    @chris-pe2ml Год назад

    I want to thank you for BDE and keeping the channel clean. I have two youngsters that like to watch videos with me, and the list of channels I can let them watch keeps getting shorter.

  • @hypnoticautopsy
    @hypnoticautopsy Год назад

    All three are nice guns, great review. I own a C2 and were looking at the prodigy, though I don’t really see a reason to add one to my collection. Springfield basically copied the Stac P, add a DLC barrel and you basically have the same gun save for some minor differences.
    Now the ammo issues I don’t think are a result of the ammo itself but more so the Staccato magazines. I have those stove pipe issues with my C2 no matter the ammo. To verify, I loaded one mag with S&B, another with Sig Elite, and another with Hornady. Each mag experienced the same issues; a round chambered, dump the mag and a round would fall out. All three had double feed issues, with all types of ammo. Each mag had the same issues where manually stripping a round the following would slide 1/2 the length of the previous allowing it to be pushed out of the magazine.
    When the slide cycles and eject the casing, a loose round is already out and dwelling in the breech, then your slide attempts to strip another. It doesn’t happen every time, but it happens enough for me to deem the C2 unreliable, and shelf it over my Sig as my EDC. I measured the top of the Stac mags which hold the round and act as a guide before tge round hits the feed ramp vs my other 9mm mags. The Stacs are about 1/8-1/10th shorter in length which allow a round to prematurely rise before being stripped by the slide, resulting in stove pipes and double feeds.

  • @arthuroubre7562
    @arthuroubre7562 Год назад

    I put a Dawson 4.15 tool less guide rod in my Bul SAS II lightweight 4.25 pistols. It works with no problem.

  • @richadent968
    @richadent968 17 дней назад

    The Browning Highpower was the first "Wonder 9" or double stack 1911. Almost 100 years ago,.

  • @teamtate322
    @teamtate322 Год назад +1

    I have the Bul Armory Tac 4.25 and love it!!

  • @mikelewis809
    @mikelewis809 Год назад +3

    So basically, if you have Staccato money buy one. If you don’t, buy the BUL. And after watching all the reviews, like everyone else. If you like a project gun buy the Springfield.

  • @spencermcelroy617
    @spencermcelroy617 Год назад

    I had to send my Prodigy back due to the Sig Sauer ammo, it jammed inside the barrel, had to take to Gun Smith for them to remove the live round, Now it's been with Springfield Warranty for a month. Yeah!!

  • @johndilday1846
    @johndilday1846 Год назад

    A very nice, in depth review. The sarcastic humor was a definite plus.

  • @peters303
    @peters303 Год назад +2

    Excellent comprehensive review as we have come to appreciate 💪🏼
    One point, perhaps a Bill drill comparison or similar?
    Would've been a rip to see those run full throttle

  • @parkerf7623
    @parkerf7623 Год назад +1

    This things gonna be insane if a custom shop gets ahold of it. Something like what Hayes Custom does with the RIA Tac Ultra. New coating, trigger work, reliability tuning, etc around $500. Somewhat custom 2011 experience at reasonable price

    • @shooterqqqq
      @shooterqqqq Год назад

      I found there is nothing the Tac Ultra needed except for the cheap plastic instead of fiber optic material. That was changed immediately. Sorry, I forgot I had a trigger job. It's two pounds.

  • @bonjovi2757
    @bonjovi2757 Год назад +1

    Best video comparison ever in the class of guns. Thank you. You could drop the BDE schtick, but I get it and it's ok.

  • @brandondane4777
    @brandondane4777 Год назад +1

    the limited edition in my opinion is much nicer. Also cost more. The trigger is like 2 pounds. I put a comp on it from threat cadre and it works really nice.

  • @plissken3336
    @plissken3336 Год назад

    Stacatto xl w/ dragon scale grip module is the greatest thing I will ever own, and you can't convince me any of those 3 perform as amazing as the XL

  • @ghost101049
    @ghost101049 Год назад +2

    Really appreciate the level of detail you go into on these vids.

    • @ghost101049
      @ghost101049 Год назад

      ...also appreciate the jokes! I almost coughed up my coffee when the Red Schill Demon came up.

  • @jimmyjameswu6474
    @jimmyjameswu6474 Год назад

    Great Video, I was dying with the shirt hahahah. I just realized how uneducated I am with the 1911 (2011) platform. I own a Staccato P with the Aluminum Frame, and Staccato C2 that only comes in the aluminum frame to my knowledge. The Staccato P has a much better new tactile grip, but the Staccato C2s grip just sucks, so I sent it out to Darkside Precision to get that secure concrete grip, they also do a double undercut and grip
    reduction. I’m purchasing the Bul Armory next , the lightning cuts actually serve a purpose rather than just reduction with slide weight. You can oil the Bul Armory at a moments notice and that’s huge. Again thanks for the video, education, and your unrelenting honest take. It would be great if you started offering classes at some point, but I know you have competition, this channel, and that dad job. Looking forward to more knowledge. Much obliged big guy.

  • @tc2540
    @tc2540 Год назад

    I compete with BUL Armory SAS II UR and will choose the BUL over the other two 2011. The quality, finished and runs out of the box is superb. I have a STI Edge (Staccato) comp ready in SS finished from Dawson Precision, and it is a fantastic USPSA Limited pistol. Thank you for the review. Good luck to anyone buying the Springfield Crapdigy. 🤣 My advice, spend a bit more (BUL or STI) for piece of mind.

  • @1911funtime
    @1911funtime Год назад

    I have both 5 & 4 .25 inch prodigy and both run smoothly no problem i been shooting them for three months now waiting for a 3rd one that im going to have ported and change grip handle to metal one. I love this gun.i want a staccato p to see how they run!

  • @trullmann
    @trullmann Год назад

    Not overthinking this one, getting the 4.25 DS with the red dot for my new range toy.
    Great review of the three!

  • @105Flintrock
    @105Flintrock Год назад +7

    I have two Bul 1911's and SAS II UL 3.25", I love them all and so I put myself on a waiting list to get a 5" SAS Tac. I admit that I thought about getting a SA 5", but the more I hear about the Prodigy and the more I shoot my Bul's, the more I understand why the Prodigy is cheaper than the Bul and the Staccato. There's generally a reason why a product is significantly cheaper than the competition, and it's rarely a good reason.

    • @TheHumbleMarksman
      @TheHumbleMarksman  Год назад +2

      Buls are way better spec from the box but is that spec important to you- that’s for you to decide

    • @alenmoradian6875
      @alenmoradian6875 Год назад

      I also have an sas ultralight, but I have had so many malfunction o gave up.

    • @derrickburnett8703
      @derrickburnett8703 Год назад +1

      I love my Bul SAS 2 tac light, would love to be able to get more mags for it. Can’t find them anywhere

    • @shannonevo
      @shannonevo Год назад +1

      @@derrickburnett8703 MBX has Bul mags. Expensive but worth it

    • @jcoll6518
      @jcoll6518 3 дня назад

      typically anyone spending north of $8000 on some pistols has some good excuses on why they did, some prefer on spending money on ammo rather than their pistols, I have a first gen 586 that will go toe to toe with any Python made, sometimes some pistols are just over priced...

  • @whysoserious13218
    @whysoserious13218 Год назад

    I shot both Staccato P and Prodigy 4.25" ....For some reason, I like the way how Prodigy look and the grip of its.
    Prodigy has some issue but if you can fix it, it's a wonderful gun

  • @CA.0verview
    @CA.0verview Год назад

    20:53 yup he’s right , that helps my g19 settle gentler when I shot my +p controlled chaos 9mm from underwood. My g19 Is ported too.

  • @jupiterjunk
    @jupiterjunk Год назад

    0:28 - ROFLMAO !!!
    That's my three boyz' as soon as I get home. Dinosaurs, questions, over-talking each other, and all. I look forward to it every evening.

  • @bulleit9459
    @bulleit9459 Год назад +1

    Another great vid bro! And its sealed the deal for me…im getting the bul 4.25!

  • @cosmiccharlie8294
    @cosmiccharlie8294 Год назад

    I shot many thousands of hand loaded .45 acp rds. years ago in matches. I would use my barrel as a case gage before a match and weed out rds. that did not chamber properly. probably a good practice for a 2011 as well.

  • @proudamerican7895
    @proudamerican7895 Год назад

    Good job, great video from a fellow Texan ! Recently bought a Prodigy 5" haven't shot it get, but I have been practicing indoors on LaserLyte Targets to get used to the gun and trigger

  • @jordangarrick703
    @jordangarrick703 Год назад +1

    I recently bought a new 4.25 Prodigy DS. Have run about 1,000 rounds through it. Maybe 5 or 6 FTF's - I'm going to try out a Staccato magazine and see if that helps. Overall, very happen with the pistol. Great feel and not much muzzle flip....

  • @helas9
    @helas9 Год назад

    Great review @Humblemarksman. I think your the first to show the Bul compared to the Prodigy. It’s the closest cost wise.

  • @rmarms6702
    @rmarms6702 Год назад +3

    Bul SAS II Tac 4.25” for the win.

  • @Shai-Tes
    @Shai-Tes 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hi, Your videos are intresting and entertaning. I enjoy watching and hearing your thoughts and opinions. Thanks. I am seriously considering purchasing a SAS II TAC 4.25 and would like to have some more information to help me make the right choice. How many rounds have you fired with the pistol so far? Have you experienced any problems with the pistol ? and if so, what kind ? What do you think about the reliability of the pistol ? Do you consider the pistole a range toy, or worthy as an everyday carry for self-defense usage ?

  • @alu.304
    @alu.304 Год назад +7

    Hilton Yam sums the Prodigy up more perfectly than anyone. Not much else needs to be said about it.

    • @herman66mi83
      @herman66mi83 Год назад

      “108performancelab” RUclips channel episodes 85,84 review of Prodigy in 4.25” & 5”

    • @TheHumbleMarksman
      @TheHumbleMarksman  Год назад +2

      He does a great job - a lot of my 1911 knowledge came from his old blog

    • @thefrogking481
      @thefrogking481 Год назад +1

      Agreed.
      Hes a loyal springfield guy, and he held nothing back.
      I use some of 10-8 parts for a 1911 I have.
      Hilton, while being a little dry, is about as straightforward as you get.

    • @michaell397
      @michaell397 Год назад

      @@thefrogking481 I much appreciate 10-8's dry way of reviewing. No fluff just pure straight forward down and dirty real world experience.
      KnifeMaker

  • @davidinc.6351
    @davidinc.6351 Год назад

    I have both staccato p and c2. Run great can’t remember the last malfunctions. Never shot the bul. I picked up the prodigy this summer and problems galore. Front sight fell off. Lots of feeding issues. Sight plate cam loose and yes installed to exact specs. And the latest. The right side safety fell off. I fixed all these myself cause I’m impatient. But yes now that it’s broke in it’s running a lot better and is the one I shoot better with. And I agree. More pleasant to shoot. Won’t bet my life on it tho.

  • @patrickgjorven7832
    @patrickgjorven7832 Год назад +1

    With shooting issues with the Prodigy I hear once in a while. As Krieger once said years ago, "just shoot the damn thing, and it will smooth out the rough spots and shoot better!"

  • @jblcrown100
    @jblcrown100 Год назад +2

    Awesome video I'm so glad you made this video I don't think Bul Armory gets a fair shake because where it's made. Thanks for the honesty. finally Bul vs Staccato video please compare the 5 inch models and the Bul Armory 4.25 tac comp version vs. Staccato XC. Well done ✅👍👍👍👍 p.s. can you show Bul and Staccato undercut side by side please thanks in advance!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @ISPhotographic
    @ISPhotographic Год назад

    My 4.25” Prodigy is running like a top, but the front sight has fallen off. Twice. It’s going to Harrison to have a new fitted sight pinned in. After that it’s getting an EGW ignition kit and will still be well under $2k for the gun. Oh, and my LGS has Prodigy mags for $39… already have eight.

  • @brandondane4777
    @brandondane4777 Год назад

    I have the c2 limited and the p.
    It’s used all the crappy cheap ammo I buy. From steel case to cheap brass. Never used aluminum yet.
    But it’s worked fine so far. I’m going to test some browning ammo soon. I just got it.

  • @travisatkins7134
    @travisatkins7134 4 месяца назад

    I put the one piece atlas guide rod and trigger in my prodigy and it definitely changed the gun

  • @marksd5650
    @marksd5650 Год назад +1

    The Springfield is way too dangerous to own in Massachusetts because the magazine capacity is more than 10. Maybe someday Springfield will produce itty bitty magazines so it’ll cease to be dangerous.
    Are your children that young? My Texas grandchildren are in high school. You’re a young man, with dad energy. Best Regards sir.

  • @toothlessreptiles9283
    @toothlessreptiles9283 Год назад

    I still haven't seen anyone review the bul tac pro model with the ported barrel. Love your content!!

  • @jasestrong
    @jasestrong Год назад

    Thank you that was a great video and informative for the folks that don’t shoot guns at this level. It really makes me want to get a Bull!

    • @wehrewulf
      @wehrewulf 4 месяца назад

      B u l, not Bull.

  • @a.c.garcia9983
    @a.c.garcia9983 Год назад

    Great breakdown of all of these three guns. Thank you

  • @prim6542
    @prim6542 Год назад

    I got that Bul Sas Tac 2 month ago and ended up buying th UL 3.25 to carry there are insane.

  • @SeymourPettigrew
    @SeymourPettigrew Год назад +1

    Based on price point, I’m going Prodigy all day. Based on performance, Bul, Staccato, Prodigy… in that order.

  • @ronmartblog
    @ronmartblog Год назад +3

    As a owner of a P and someone who spent three days evaluating a friends Prodigy, I have to say this is a fair and balanced review
    I also had issues with Sig M17 FMJ +P ammo
    I had more problems with F2F that were resolved by using a LOT of slide grease (oil was not enough)
    The Prodigy is ridiculously accurate and a pleasure to shoot, but it’s a shame they have such a gritty trigger at this price point. As you say, it works well but it begs for something better.
    I’m thankful to see more competition on price and I do think a lot of the Internet hate is coming from Staccato fanboys / dreamers

    • @TheHumbleMarksman
      @TheHumbleMarksman  Год назад +2

      All 3 guns were lubed with gun butter so it’s “oil” but kinds of like a very light grease. Locking lugs were greased

    • @ronmartblog
      @ronmartblog Год назад +1

      @@TheHumbleMarksman that qualifies
      A dab of rem oil doesn’t
      My Staccato P had F2F for its 30 rounds then ran great after that, but I lubed it as they recommended with the included Hoppes Black

  • @sv2697
    @sv2697 Год назад

    Thanks for the vid, these are exactly the 3 guns I'm looking to compare and buying one of them next year. My only problem with bull armory is their 2011 are impossible to find.

  • @NeverGone23
    @NeverGone23 Год назад

    Bul is kind of the Glock of 2011's? Great video. I've been waiting for the Bul to come out for over a year and thought, It's never coming here. I bought a Prodigy. Now the Bul website has dropped the price, has a store and actually takes orders on them. I'm hoping the start showing up in Gun store this year. Great video.

  • @keithrange4457
    @keithrange4457 2 месяца назад

    I shoot about 70% better with my EDC dot than without,and i shot irons for many years. Im not everyon3, but the dot is GREATLY preferred for my self defense weapon. I want every advantage i can get if the worst day of my life ever comes (also why i comp'd my EDC - and vetted it with about 5k rounds comp'd)