If anyone want to know sidestep becomes an option if you are either plus 4 or minus 4 frames. Try to step small moves in quick Play before going ranked with that. Also attacking and stepping instead of continuing flowchart is a good thing. Sidestep sheet helps a lot because every char Has their weak side.
Winning in this game feels like I just put guessed my opponent. Doesn’t really feel like I’m actually better than them lol more interactions doesn’t mean much when the interactions are forced 50/50 into massive damage. It’s literally just who guesses better and/or whose character has the best 50/50 pressure
Still the best player wins, or everyone would be GoD. Everyone is playing under the same conditions, it feels like guessing, some characters are spammy and cheese but at the end of the day it still requires skill imo.
I don't think power crush heat engagers should be a thing, and if they are make them take away a little bit of heat. Not as much as heat burst, but like half that.
@@davidcunha01 yeah the forced guess on hs ob needs to go for the simple reason that a 1 button 50 dmg move shouldnt give you an advantage regardless of if you used it well or not. it should give up your turn ob or at least reset neutral
I think everyone understands that safe, heat engager power crush moves are intentionally pushed and take a big part of the characters power budget. They are still highs, so there is some limited counterplay, but they certainly make the characters that have them a lot better. I'd compare safe, heat engaging power crushes to 15f hopkick launchers; very strong tools that are a clearly there to make the character more competitive in comparison. Dragunov has neither of those tools, so he gets a better "basic toolset" as a tradeoff.
Remember how the early character trailers DIDN'T show a single sidestep, to the point where some people thought they would even remove some side movement? Crazy times. How could we have known side steps would be improved when preview footage only conveyed offense and combos because it looks cooler?
I'll never stop saying it but if Tekken 7 had actually good sidestepping it would've been the best game ever. It's like Bandai forgot they're the ones who designed the game bc they were like ugh why is everyone so defensive in t7, but then didn't adjust the game to fix the reason why lol. Now in 8 they made movement better but if ur opponent is in heat it's t7 all over again except the nukes hit WAY fucking harder 😭. Namco please 😭😭😭
One really cool thing about Tekken 8's Heat System is that you are super encouraged to be aggressive while you have Heat; If you get combo'ed while you have Heat, you can recover all of that damage taken. Even getting launched while having heat is not THAT bad, so you are encouraged to just go ham while you have it. Chip on every attack and making all combo damage recoverable just screams "Go!".
I never played tekken before 8. And this is now my favorite fighting game(until 2xko comes out) it constantly fun learning people's set up. Movement. And finding combos with weird interactions based on the 3d format
A FG tale as old as time. Unpolished complexity of a different kind seen as watered down baby mechanics until perfected, looked at in retrospect, and out of the competitive spotlight so people can play it just for pure enjoyment.
T8 is my first fighting game and therefore my first Tekken and I was really disappointed to here how unhappy people were with the game. Looking at the gameplay from T7, I don't think I personally would have enjoyed it that much. I think the bones of T8 are pretty good and once the outliers and heat gets tuned down a bit, I think the core of the gameplay will stand up and I hope people's opinions change over time.
It will eventually. The community has to have a tantrum first, the ones that were never really fans to begin with weeded out..Happens with every tekken game. Trust me this is nothing new.
@@jeanschyso hmm. Took a few years for people to stop crying about t7 and that's after the game was a total dumpster fire its first 2 to 3, and few head a** patches down the line plus t8 existing... so.....
I think you're right now. I have fun playing and watching the game so I'm happy with it. It's fine to dislike it too but i think some people are just salty haters because fighting games are hard and it's easier to say it's a bad game than it is to adapt and improve
So ive been playing tekken since tekken 3 and for years i spent hours and hours trying master every hard mechanic of the game and playing it to its full potential, i fully mastered backdashing wavedashing , jsfr electrics perfect electrics, playing while moving not mashing like an idiot and i found that is wt made tekken the greatest fighting game ever until they brought this dumb shit trash shadow of tekken game tekken 8, does that make me a salty hater? Tekken 8 is trash and this guy phidx unfortunately is a shill and i can guarantee u he is not speaking the truth, he has much to lose if he talks shit about this trash game and if he is telling the truth about really enjoying the game u wouldve seen him play competitive as he did b4 in 7 and try every big tournament possible to him but he knows for sure that this game is not for competing.
I don't understand the controversy. Control through movement offensively and defensively is still very much there. Sidestepping big moves or heat bursts/smashes can very easily turn a losing situation into a winning one, and I frequently use crouch dashes to bait moves and punish. Yes, there are some braindead characters and offense is really strong, but shouldn't it be? Why would you want a fighting game that favors defense over offense? I never played any other tekkens but the way the tekken 7 gameplay is described seems super boring. Proactive gameplay should be rewarded over perpetual sitting and trying to catch someone with a low parry. And the majority of players barely sidestep, if ever, so why on earth would you want a 2d tekken with a penalty for attacking? I thought this was a fighting game. In pro tekken they're constantly doing kbds, chain dashing in each other's faces and full crouching right in front of each other. if that isn't control through movement idk what else is
took a small hiatus from tekken 8 due to personal reasons, but i’m back now and ima catch up on your vids. always appreciate the in depth analysis videos, as i continue to learn more and more about the game :D
I still think heat needs some work. One significant difference is availability. In 7, you only got these moves when in rage, whereas in 8, you can access them at any time you really want. I also think that side-stepping is a lot riskier than backdashing. A lot of moves can still clip you or track to certain sides, so even now, many heat bursts more than in 7 have crazy tracking with the ability to turn a lot moves that wouldn't normally launch into full launches. You have characters with 10f counter hit launching heat dashes and more with heavily tracked heat bursts. So you have the issue where you don't to be aggressive in fear of eating a heat burst for a third of your health or getting launched by fast move.
Tekken has changed for the better, but it has been an over correction. Too many characters are hyper aggressive with their move sets in the current iteration, and a few other characters have been left behind to where they just don’t work like they should. Needless to say, more tuning needs to be done.
Glad to see you support the Tekken competitive scene and its community, despite the consistent negativity of others for calling you a 'corporate shill' for even enjoying T8. Keep doing what you do and never let others get you down! ✌😁
@3:30 I think one version of counterplay on defense is that highs are duckable no matter what. I'm new to competitive Tekken, but i am used to plus frames being frame traps no matter what the following move is. It seems like you cant jail in T8 if you use highs as followups to plus moves. Was it always like that in Tekken? Tekken experts correct me if im wrong.
It depends, certain strings can jail in a way where you're forced to take a high. If you're talking about doing a high that's a seperate move after the first hit then in that case you'll always have a chance to duck the high.
@@blaximum what do you mean? Electrics are already existent since T3 if I'm not mistaken. Guard breaks was.introduced in T7 and that's one of the reason why Fahk is so strong. Also, you can EWGF me anytime and I'll welcome it since it does nothing when you block it. Guard break on the other hand can lead to devastating combos on walls and only accessible to select few
Tekken 8 is leagues better than Tekken 7. What’s sad is the twitter community is the worst thing about Tekken. Playing the game makes most want to play more of the game. Reading twitter just makes many people depressed and down on the game. I really don’t k ow how you fix when a community leans into toxicity more than it should. ESPECIALLY becuase no game exist in a vacuum, that is compare the price, value, depth, almost every metric Tekken is the best or in the running anmong the best compared to all the AAA fighting games. Except its twitter community. Really is a shame. Don’t get me wrong feedback is important, but it should be constructive criticism and not what we get, lower review scores on steam for a $5 dollar stage nonesense. Cutting off your nose to spite your face. SMH
I would even love Tekken 8 more if they incorporate combo routes from bound, tailspin, and tornadoes, but I don't know how it will look in the actual game, but I have a feeling it is really good. This is my vision for Tekken 9, hope it will come true. 🦂🦅🕷️🤓❤️
For me mid power crush -15 heat smash plus frame must be removed ra only 1 in a match Unblockable, charged attacks, heat smash parry not working is ridiculous Except King (character theme) other characters cannot be broken, throw is annoying
I’m a new gen player but I liked the more clean gameplay without worrying about heat resource but I otherwise love the variety of combos in tekken 8, I think if these were changed to something that isn’t resource like but just a part of their kit again in tekken 9/sequel. Attacking feels good in tekken 8 but defending feels almost anxiety inducing because you need to assert yourself with offence, I think that some sort of mid way ground that could allow for heat burst extended combos but not have it tied to a heat bar at all. Rage art has stayed clean and easy to read in the middle of a match but heat is a bar that can go up or down which doesn’t seem as intuitive to me. But I really can’t say much, I have 600 hours in tekken 8 and 8 hours in tekken 7.
Yeah attack moves can stop opponent pressure, but whats even better is choose a heave plus frame on block char and dont let opponent make you 50/50; ulsan and atif wins a lot of tournaments but using dragunov and even with that they dont win all tournaments; tekken 8 is a gambling game even on pro scene, sure you need skill, but less than previous tekken, namco can mitigate movement power without touching it, decrease combo damage and keep old movement, tekken is a 3d game, movement was the thing about this game and makes it different from other francise
Great video, too bad most the comments are going to be about the only difference in your haircut being a 2" length. But for real, the new movement plus a more interaction heavy defence is what makes T8 so addictive to me, looks shallow at first but the consistency at the top level shows that it's not endless 50/50s, the game rewards you for understanding and interacting.
The game in it's current state feels like either you get launched twice and you die or 1 launch and a couple of good pokes and you die. For me, it's getting to be a bit stale...
Ive been saying this since t8 came out. Alot of the people crying need to go back. Play and watch what old tekken was. The play part is hard because skill level.and if the comments over the months are any indication well...yea that point wont really come across strong. Half the community still doesn't know what a actual 50/50 is. Yet stay complaining about them lol. As always time will go on. The real players will figure it out, take the nostalgia glasses off. Patches will come...the scrubs will be scubs,ect. Slowly its already showing. *Like i know it will* 9 will be out before you know it and the cycle will continue. Like always with this community. On the namco side they need to tighten up. And realize this ant fortnight. And everything will be fine. At the end of the day ppl gonna moan regardless. It's their job to not give them ammo. Or at least less of it. They are failing miserably at that.
To me, there are 2 most irritating things about new mechanics: 1) Some good and powerful moves are heat engagers, while others are not. What if I don't want that move to go to heat? Why do I have to spend that meter to play normal tekken :D? Why not making any non-poking move to enable heat by, for example, pressing the attack button twice quickly?(or any better way) For me, it's either give players more control over it or turn that sht off lol. 2) Accidental heat dashes. nuff said.
I think you're wrong about you being wrong about Tekken 8. This game sucks. They turned my favorite game into an bullshit anime casino fighter. This isn't Tekken.
Honestly, even tho my main is not in the game, I have to agree. I am still having a lot of fun with T8. Frame data replays that you can go over and fix. This is the strongest I have ever been in Tekken and I don't really see myself not having fun anytime soon.
Kazuyas 50/50 with axe kick isn't true, you can fussy guard the axe kick. It's hard yes but it's possible. I actually think tekken 8 is a better game than 7 and by the end of it's life cycle it's going to be clear.
Claudio's RD was balanced out by the fact you can only use it once per round. It's not the same as the all day ungabunga of Tekken 8. Noctis and Fuckram were also cheap, that's why nobody liked them. Overall, i do believe that the end years of Tekken 7 reflected the shift in philosophy to more aggressive game play. It didn't start with Tekken 8. The last seasons of Tekken 7 were the prototype for this shift.
I WISH PHI WOULD BRING THIS UP! I WANT Tekken 8 to be great. I want them to change two simple things for Tekken 8 to be the best it can be they should: change the heat value to zero at the start of every round, make gaining heat only possible from blocking. This will reward Good Tekken Players, while teaching people to block for an incentive of heat. I WISH THEYD ERASE ALL POWERCRUSH/Armor Moves. Ive gotten 4 hits on a powercrush, and still get full combod by enemy after.
@@daniilefr957 the move can stay but the invulnerable property of these moves is absolute bullshit. I loved Tekken 7 but hated that L1 was a one button powercrush on every character. I was hoping they’d move away from invulnerable guaranteed safe attacks , but they doubled down and made it so you can combo after you use one of these moves . Some players only use these moves as a result and its just not fun anymore
Power crushes have been in the game for a while now. Making them unsafe would be better for the game, especially the heat engage ones. Also, all of the heat engage ones shouldn’t wall splat. Ones like Reina’s B1+2 should since not only it’s unsafe on block, I think it’s -14 on block. Plenty of time to punish.
Let be real PhiDX when you say you prefer movement heavy Tekken you really mean “I prefer KBD for 80% of my movement options” as you clearly showcase T8 has better sidestep options. KBD made the game so one dimensional, make whiff then punish, it was boring to watch and gate kept people who could not KBD at ridiculous levels, and gate kept characters that has a poor whiff punish option. So me thinks your idea of “movement” might be a little lacking… lol all love bro,
The game is BET365 8 through Tekken God ranks. It's as if you don't take into account that there are many ranks below. I know you don't care about those ranks.
the problem is you just say the game is not trash because thats your work make videos about the game and playing it (maybe bamco pay you to say is super, and make videos about it!), thats 100% the reason u talk the game is good and has future and u was wrong in the old video! everybody know the game is a laggy troll fiesta... today i played after 3 month again my highest rank is battle ruler, after 45 min i deinstall it! another problem is iam not interestet in complete rooster or the dlc nobody ask for! the only char i play is azucena...rest i will never touch! look these eddy, jin, dragunov, heihachi , yoshimitsu nonsense...and u say the game is good? in my rank battle ruler every game is over in 2 min because everybody can do easy 100dmg conbos... all characters have all azucena nothing...the only reason you play or mainman, knee is because is your job! the game is nonsense laggy troll fiesta! 100% no fun the only one play it longer than 1 hours is you and these people thats there job... winning feels shit because i know is nonsense how i won, no skill nothing involved... losing i feel nothing because the game is a joke 100% nonsense thats why i lose! i had 78% winrate with azucena from 0 - battle ruler and i feel nothing...feels emty! now u can defend and lie about how much fun the game is, and has a golden future, i say 75% of the players gone and play other games because it suuk, and u know it!
"deinstall" has me rolling I'm definitely using this word now 😂 On a more serious note, I think if you genuinely do not like the game, just separate yourself from it and go play other games instead of spending your time writing an angry post about it. I myself am gonna try Cyberpunk 2077 later today and really looking forward to it. Games should make you happy at the end of the day.
Shilling propaganda for Tekken 8 again I see. The game is garbage. And you're part of the reason why. I love sidestepping after Lars homing fullscreen neutral skip. After half the heat smashes. Oh wait... I can't.
Posted not even after watching the full video while calling him a shill. Doesn't even point out WHAT is the shill or counter argue why what he is arguing is a shill.
"I also had an insane haircut"
Has the same haircut
Yeah and it's insane
I’m willing to bet 80 percent of tekken players have never sidestepped and that’s being generous
yeah, I didn't learn to sidestep until battle ruler/fujin (kept demoting and promoting)
@@sanicboi9187 I mean I refuse to
I find it hard to do, i start tea bagging instead of stepping
Sidestep is why I bought Tekken 3. Getting zoned in SF killed my vibe.
If anyone want to know sidestep becomes an option if you are either plus 4 or minus 4 frames. Try to step small moves in quick Play before going ranked with that. Also attacking and stepping instead of continuing flowchart is a good thing. Sidestep sheet helps a lot because every char Has their weak side.
Past PhiDX looks like a younger version of present PhiDX……..
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aint no way
🤔 nah thats wild
Noctis haircut
no way hommie said he had an insane haircut to only have the same exact one rn..... love u bro it looks great even if ya let it grow king
12:39 Bro deadass paused lmfaoooo
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"I had an insane haircut"
..has the same haircut
He’s got that Guest F cut
Winning in this game feels like I just put guessed my opponent. Doesn’t really feel like I’m actually better than them lol more interactions doesn’t mean much when the interactions are forced 50/50 into massive damage. It’s literally just who guesses better and/or whose character has the best 50/50 pressure
I agree
Still the best player wins, or everyone would be GoD.
Everyone is playing under the same conditions, it feels like guessing, some characters are spammy and cheese but at the end of the day it still requires skill imo.
I don't think power crush heat engagers should be a thing, and if they are make them take away a little bit of heat. Not as much as heat burst, but like half that.
Agree. I dont like heat smash being plus on block, it should be neutral or -1, -3. We already have to guess in heat engagers and heat dash on block
They already do this with Zafina. Her azazel moves can become power crushes but they take away heat meter. And they aren't power crushes without heat.
@@davidcunha01 yeah the forced guess on hs ob needs to go for the simple reason that a 1 button 50 dmg move shouldnt give you an advantage regardless of if you used it well or not. it should give up your turn ob or at least reset neutral
Well shoot, safe high power crushes shouldn't even be a thing either.
I think everyone understands that safe, heat engager power crush moves are intentionally pushed and take a big part of the characters power budget. They are still highs, so there is some limited counterplay, but they certainly make the characters that have them a lot better.
I'd compare safe, heat engaging power crushes to 15f hopkick launchers; very strong tools that are a clearly there to make the character more competitive in comparison.
Dragunov has neither of those tools, so he gets a better "basic toolset" as a tradeoff.
Remember how the early character trailers DIDN'T show a single sidestep, to the point where some people thought they would even remove some side movement? Crazy times. How could we have known side steps would be improved when preview footage only conveyed offense and combos because it looks cooler?
Reacting to your own content is actually genius
Infinite content farm
Really been looking forward to this video since the last one. Always appreciate these vids bro
I'll never stop saying it but if Tekken 7 had actually good sidestepping it would've been the best game ever. It's like Bandai forgot they're the ones who designed the game bc they were like ugh why is everyone so defensive in t7, but then didn't adjust the game to fix the reason why lol. Now in 8 they made movement better but if ur opponent is in heat it's t7 all over again except the nukes hit WAY fucking harder 😭. Namco please 😭😭😭
I think TTT2 was that but obviously with the tag mechanic
This video opened up my third eye now I have a new-found appreciation for the game
One really cool thing about Tekken 8's Heat System is that you are super encouraged to be aggressive while you have Heat; If you get combo'ed while you have Heat, you can recover all of that damage taken.
Even getting launched while having heat is not THAT bad, so you are encouraged to just go ham while you have it.
Chip on every attack and making all combo damage recoverable just screams "Go!".
That's only a "cool thing" if your a braindead noob
I feel like in a few years Tekken 8 will be looked upon as an amazing game and one of the best Tekkens ever as it gets better and better.
X to doubt.
@@davidparry5310 Of course someone would say that.....I like to stay optimistic okay
I only played T3, was never interested in any other Tekken until T8 came along, and I keep playing. It has flaws, but the game is so much fun.
I never played tekken before 8. And this is now my favorite fighting game(until 2xko comes out) it constantly fun learning people's set up. Movement. And finding combos with weird interactions based on the 3d format
Thats a given. It happened to tag 2 and its happening to 7.
A FG tale as old as time. Unpolished complexity of a different kind seen as watered down baby mechanics until perfected, looked at in retrospect, and out of the competitive spotlight so people can play it just for pure enjoyment.
Haircut looks the same 🤔
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T8 is my first fighting game and therefore my first Tekken and I was really disappointed to here how unhappy people were with the game. Looking at the gameplay from T7, I don't think I personally would have enjoyed it that much. I think the bones of T8 are pretty good and once the outliers and heat gets tuned down a bit, I think the core of the gameplay will stand up and I hope people's opinions change over time.
It was good
Just 8 is better tbh
It will eventually. The community has to have a tantrum first, the ones that were never really fans to begin with weeded out..Happens with every tekken game. Trust me this is nothing new.
@@Ock_mantis game's been out for 10 months. How long is a tantrum?
@@jeanschyso hmm. Took a few years for people to stop crying about t7 and that's after the game was a total dumpster fire its first 2 to 3, and few head a** patches down the line plus t8 existing... so.....
I think you're right now. I have fun playing and watching the game so I'm happy with it. It's fine to dislike it too but i think some people are just salty haters because fighting games are hard and it's easier to say it's a bad game than it is to adapt and improve
So ive been playing tekken since tekken 3 and for years i spent hours and hours trying master every hard mechanic of the game and playing it to its full potential, i fully mastered backdashing wavedashing , jsfr electrics perfect electrics, playing while moving not mashing like an idiot and i found that is wt made tekken the greatest fighting game ever until they brought this dumb shit trash shadow of tekken game tekken 8, does that make me a salty hater?
Tekken 8 is trash and this guy phidx unfortunately is a shill and i can guarantee u he is not speaking the truth, he has much to lose if he talks shit about this trash game and if he is telling the truth about really enjoying the game u wouldve seen him play competitive as he did b4 in 7 and try every big tournament possible to him but he knows for sure that this game is not for competing.
I don't understand the controversy. Control through movement offensively and defensively is still very much there. Sidestepping big moves or heat bursts/smashes can very easily turn a losing situation into a winning one, and I frequently use crouch dashes to bait moves and punish. Yes, there are some braindead characters and offense is really strong, but shouldn't it be? Why would you want a fighting game that favors defense over offense?
I never played any other tekkens but the way the tekken 7 gameplay is described seems super boring. Proactive gameplay should be rewarded over perpetual sitting and trying to catch someone with a low parry. And the majority of players barely sidestep, if ever, so why on earth would you want a 2d tekken with a penalty for attacking? I thought this was a fighting game.
In pro tekken they're constantly doing kbds, chain dashing in each other's faces and full crouching right in front of each other. if that isn't control through movement idk what else is
I love how Phi looks at his past self like judging (asian) father.
Interesting analysis all the way back then. Thank you for sharing!
took a small hiatus from tekken 8 due to personal reasons, but i’m back now and ima catch up on your vids. always appreciate the in depth analysis videos, as i continue to learn more and more about the game :D
I love how I called t8 a game of dueling offenses and people said I was stupid yet now people are finally starting to get it.
I still think heat needs some work. One significant difference is availability. In 7, you only got these moves when in rage, whereas in 8, you can access them at any time you really want. I also think that side-stepping is a lot riskier than backdashing. A lot of moves can still clip you or track to certain sides, so even now, many heat bursts more than in 7 have crazy tracking with the ability to turn a lot moves that wouldn't normally launch into full launches. You have characters with 10f counter hit launching heat dashes and more with heavily tracked heat bursts. So you have the issue where you don't to be aggressive in fear of eating a heat burst for a third of your health or getting launched by fast move.
Tekken has changed for the better, but it has been an over correction. Too many characters are hyper aggressive with their move sets in the current iteration, and a few other characters have been left behind to where they just don’t work like they should. Needless to say, more tuning needs to be done.
Glad to see you support the Tekken competitive scene and its community, despite the consistent negativity of others for calling you a 'corporate shill' for even enjoying T8. Keep doing what you do and never let others get you down! ✌😁
No wonder Why mr.phidx loved noctus. My man got the anime guy haircut when he was younger. PogChamp
@3:30 I think one version of counterplay on defense is that highs are duckable no matter what. I'm new to competitive Tekken, but i am used to plus frames being frame traps no matter what the following move is. It seems like you cant jail in T8 if you use highs as followups to plus moves. Was it always like that in Tekken? Tekken experts correct me if im wrong.
It depends, certain strings can jail in a way where you're forced to take a high. If you're talking about doing a high that's a seperate move after the first hit then in that case you'll always have a chance to duck the high.
Strings can have jailing highs but MK style "got hit by D4 so you can't neutral duck a jab" doesn't exist.
i love phidx
Guard break should not be a thing, because not all characters have them
By that logic, I guess we should get rid of electrics. 🤷🏾♂️
@@blaximum what do you mean? Electrics are already existent since T3 if I'm not mistaken. Guard breaks was.introduced in T7 and that's one of the reason why Fahk is so strong. Also, you can EWGF me anytime and I'll welcome it since it does nothing when you block it. Guard break on the other hand can lead to devastating combos on walls and only accessible to select few
Easily my least favorite thing is guard breaks
Guard breaks in tekken are literally older than electrics. There is a good video about tk3 guard break followups for example
@@blaximumright wtf lol
Tekken 8 is leagues better than Tekken 7. What’s sad is the twitter community is the worst thing about Tekken. Playing the game makes most want to play more of the game. Reading twitter just makes many people depressed and down on the game. I really don’t k ow how you fix when a community leans into toxicity more than it should. ESPECIALLY becuase no game exist in a vacuum, that is compare the price, value, depth, almost every metric Tekken is the best or in the running anmong the best compared to all the AAA fighting games. Except its twitter community. Really is a shame. Don’t get me wrong feedback is important, but it should be constructive criticism and not what we get, lower review scores on steam for a $5 dollar stage nonesense. Cutting off your nose to spite your face. SMH
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I would even love Tekken 8 more if they incorporate combo routes from bound, tailspin, and tornadoes, but I don't know how it will look in the actual game, but I have a feeling it is really good. This is my vision for Tekken 9, hope it will come true. 🦂🦅🕷️🤓❤️
I started playing eddy recently and this game is too 50/50 heavy. I never feel like I outplayed my opponent. They just guessed wrong
For me
mid power crush -15
heat smash plus frame must be removed
ra only 1 in a match
Unblockable, charged attacks, heat smash parry not working is ridiculous
Except King (character theme) other characters cannot be broken, throw is annoying
I’m a new gen player but I liked the more clean gameplay without worrying about heat resource but I otherwise love the variety of combos in tekken 8, I think if these were changed to something that isn’t resource like but just a part of their kit again in tekken 9/sequel.
Attacking feels good in tekken 8 but defending feels almost anxiety inducing because you need to assert yourself with offence, I think that some sort of mid way ground that could allow for heat burst extended combos but not have it tied to a heat bar at all. Rage art has stayed clean and easy to read in the middle of a match but heat is a bar that can go up or down which doesn’t seem as intuitive to me.
But I really can’t say much, I have 600 hours in tekken 8 and 8 hours in tekken 7.
Claudio b42 heatdash is basically homing. There’s no counterplay to that sequence. Unfortunate example of a move to prove your point.
Game so cooked, bro is analyzing his video analyzing a trailer
There's one thing that was positive about T8 for me. It's that I realized that, instead of T8, I like games that have footsies.
Ayo when did Phidx look so good on camera
Yeah attack moves can stop opponent pressure, but whats even better is choose a heave plus frame on block char and dont let opponent make you 50/50; ulsan and atif wins a lot of tournaments but using dragunov and even with that they dont win all tournaments; tekken 8 is a gambling game even on pro scene, sure you need skill, but less than previous tekken, namco can mitigate movement power without touching it, decrease combo damage and keep old movement, tekken is a 3d game, movement was the thing about this game and makes it different from other francise
I still miss rage drive
Heat smash is the same thing with a different meter
Great video, too bad most the comments are going to be about the only difference in your haircut being a 2" length.
But for real, the new movement plus a more interaction heavy defence is what makes T8 so addictive to me, looks shallow at first but the consistency at the top level shows that it's not endless 50/50s, the game rewards you for understanding and interacting.
Pls upload more 😭😭😭
heat is just boring.
I disagree
No
Bot..
Heat sucks I agree. Super repetitive seeing the same moves and animations every round.
@GrownManPat not everyone who disagrees with you is a bot
Nice vid!
The game in it's current state feels like either you get launched twice and you die or 1 launch and a couple of good pokes and you die. For me, it's getting to be a bit stale...
W yugioh reference
you literally have the same haircut
Ive been saying this since t8 came out. Alot of the people crying need to go back. Play and watch what old tekken was. The play part is hard because skill level.and if the comments over the months are any indication well...yea that point wont really come across strong.
Half the community still doesn't know what a actual 50/50 is. Yet stay complaining about them lol.
As always time will go on. The real players will figure it out, take the nostalgia glasses off. Patches will come...the scrubs will be scubs,ect. Slowly its already showing. *Like i know it will*
9 will be out before you know it and the cycle will continue. Like always with this community.
On the namco side they need to tighten up. And realize this ant fortnight. And everything will be fine. At the end of the day ppl gonna moan regardless. It's their job to not give them ammo. Or at least less of it. They are failing miserably at that.
To me, there are 2 most irritating things about new mechanics:
1) Some good and powerful moves are heat engagers, while others are not.
What if I don't want that move to go to heat? Why do I have to spend that meter to play normal tekken :D?
Why not making any non-poking move to enable heat by, for example, pressing the attack button twice quickly?(or any better way)
For me, it's either give players more control over it or turn that sht off lol.
2) Accidental heat dashes. nuff said.
1) that's sounds absolutely horrendous lol.
2) execution issue.
Phi the spin doctor for BAMCO as always
I think you're wrong about you being wrong about Tekken 8. This game sucks. They turned my favorite game into an bullshit anime casino fighter. This isn't Tekken.
Definitely some freaky ass sentences in this video. I'm with it
why bro aged 6 years in 1 year
Honestly, even tho my main is not in the game, I have to agree. I am still having a lot of fun with T8. Frame data replays that you can go over and fix. This is the strongest I have ever been in Tekken and I don't really see myself not having fun anytime soon.
the namco shill money mustve been running low. ShillDX had to make another piece.
Phi dropped
Kazuyas 50/50 with axe kick isn't true, you can fussy guard the axe kick. It's hard yes but it's possible. I actually think tekken 8 is a better game than 7 and by the end of it's life cycle it's going to be clear.
Swag
I like tekken 8 alot
Claudio's RD was balanced out by the fact you can only use it once per round. It's not the same as the all day ungabunga of Tekken 8. Noctis and Fuckram were also cheap, that's why nobody liked them. Overall, i do believe that the end years of Tekken 7 reflected the shift in philosophy to more aggressive game play. It didn't start with Tekken 8. The last seasons of Tekken 7 were the prototype for this shift.
I WISH PHI WOULD BRING THIS UP! I WANT Tekken 8 to be great. I want them to change two simple things for Tekken 8 to be the best it can be they should:
change the heat value to zero at the start of every round, make gaining heat only possible from blocking. This will reward Good Tekken Players, while teaching people to block for an incentive of heat.
I WISH THEYD ERASE ALL POWERCRUSH/Armor Moves. Ive gotten 4 hits on a powercrush, and still get full combod by enemy after.
Not shure about all armored moves but high + safe on block + heat engage + wall splat needs to go.
@@daniilefr957 the move can stay but the invulnerable property of these moves is absolute bullshit. I loved Tekken 7 but hated that L1 was a one button powercrush on every character.
I was hoping they’d move away from invulnerable guaranteed safe attacks , but they doubled down and made it so you can combo after you use one of these moves .
Some players only use these moves as a result and its just not fun anymore
Power crushes have been in the game for a while now. Making them unsafe would be better for the game, especially the heat engage ones. Also, all of the heat engage ones shouldn’t wall splat. Ones like Reina’s B1+2 should since not only it’s unsafe on block, I think it’s -14 on block. Plenty of time to punish.
Lows break power crush armor.
I think normal power crushes are fine, But power crush heat engagers are a bit much.
Let be real PhiDX when you say you prefer movement heavy Tekken you really mean “I prefer KBD for 80% of my movement options” as you clearly showcase T8 has better sidestep options. KBD made the game so one dimensional, make whiff then punish, it was boring to watch and gate kept people who could not KBD at ridiculous levels, and gate kept characters that has a poor whiff punish option. So me thinks your idea of “movement” might be a little lacking… lol all love bro,
Seems like someone didn't learn KBD on both sides 🧐
N#3
The game is BET365 8 through Tekken God ranks.
It's as if you don't take into account that there are many ranks below. I know you don't care about those ranks.
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Mid tier haircut. Ive done worse.
Every new tekken took something away from wt made the game great until we reached the trash called tekken 8.
So which game did this degeneration start from, then?
the problem is you just say the game is not trash because thats your work make videos about the game and playing it (maybe bamco pay you to say is super, and make videos about it!), thats 100% the reason u talk the game is good and has future and u was wrong in the old video!
everybody know the game is a laggy troll fiesta...
today i played after 3 month again my highest rank is battle ruler, after 45 min i deinstall it!
another problem is iam not interestet in complete rooster or the dlc nobody ask for!
the only char i play is azucena...rest i will never touch!
look these eddy, jin, dragunov, heihachi , yoshimitsu nonsense...and u say the game is good?
in my rank battle ruler every game is over in 2 min because everybody can do easy 100dmg conbos...
all characters have all azucena nothing...the only reason you play or mainman, knee is because is your job!
the game is nonsense laggy troll fiesta!
100% no fun the only one play it longer than 1 hours is you and these people thats there job...
winning feels shit because i know is nonsense how i won, no skill nothing involved...
losing i feel nothing because the game is a joke 100% nonsense thats why i lose!
i had 78% winrate with azucena from 0 - battle ruler and i feel nothing...feels emty!
now u can defend and lie about how much fun the game is, and has a golden future, i say 75% of the players gone and play other games because it suuk, and u know it!
You lose cause youre ass bro
"deinstall" has me rolling I'm definitely using this word now 😂
On a more serious note, I think if you genuinely do not like the game, just separate yourself from it and go play other games instead of spending your time writing an angry post about it. I myself am gonna try Cyberpunk 2077 later today and really looking forward to it. Games should make you happy at the end of the day.
Of course you do! You've since jumped into the pocket of corporate sponsors of Tekken, and can ill afford to utter a single bad word about T8 anymore!
Shilling propaganda for Tekken 8 again I see. The game is garbage. And you're part of the reason why. I love sidestepping after Lars homing fullscreen neutral skip. After half the heat smashes. Oh wait... I can't.
hey buddy drama class is in the other hall
Holy cringe
Posted not even after watching the full video while calling him a shill. Doesn't even point out WHAT is the shill or counter argue why what he is arguing is a shill.
And yet somehow most of the players who were dominant in T7 are still relevant in T8. Interesting facts indeed.
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I’m early as hell
Hella early
1st wow
ofc ure wrong uall better player been wrong everyone hating first then liek it thats why i hate overall content creator only hating
Noctis Shill Alert. Just stop bro