Hey PhiDX! I was the Dragunov you faced in the video :)) Super stoked to have faced you and I am extremely happy that you thought I was a decently skilled player. I learned a lot from watching this over, and I think I know now where to focus in order to improve. Thank you so much for the kind words, and I hope to face you again some day!!
Hey Phi, just wanted to say I genuinely dont mind longer videos, 30-45 mins is a good watch for me. I may be a minority in saying so, but the more matches and insight I can get, the better
Yeah, same, anything above that might be a little hard to make time for, at least for me, but anything up to the 30-40 minute time frame is great. Less is also fine! I really just want each video to be however long it needs to be.
Was having a terrible time playing Tekken 8 online and against my better judgement decided to watch this video. If nothing else it improved my mood and made me want to play the game even more, keep up the good work. You are a positive beacon of light in the community regardless of what some may say.
I'm loving this series. It's nice to see the thought process you go into learning a new character. Also appreciate these videos being lengthier as it gives some time to crunch the information and see it in action. Keep on doing what you do, can't wait to see my main in a PP vid whenever that happens ^^
I'm a Raijin Jin main so I'm glad to see this. I've been using your videos since day one of T8 to break my cycle of "not being dope online" in this series so surely this will help me. Thanks I needed this!!!
Thank you. i have been playing him since tekken 3 and he is amazing in this current game format. Im loving your series of lets try this character because everyone can play with theory, but the application side of things is what is missing from a lot of discussion in fighting games today keep up the good work.
Why do people think he’s downplaying? Playing Jin just means almost everyone knows the r match up making it harder. Yes, Jin is great. Amazing. But knowledge on him makes it hard.
I fucking love your videos Phi, the energy and wisdom you have really help me in ranked learna AND even enjoy the experience. I hope you do more Jin Phi plays but honestly I love just watching you and hearing the analysis. Thank you for being what the tekken community should be ❤
As a responsibility-having adult I would like to petition a definitive pp tier list at the end of this series, with biggest to smallest pp rankings based on personal enjoyment of the characters.
Came back to this because I wanted to pick up Jin and it helped me win my first match against a Clive, who I've been struggling against on my main. Awesome video!
But but, according to MainManSWE, Jin is stupidly broken and carries you to GoD by himself, no skill needed, hes basically Tekken King for free, just spam d2, strongest move in the game bla bla
Love the longer videos, all I need now is one for Devil Jin. This is my first Tekken and I just got Jun to Garyu. I wanted to get a couple of character I like to red so I have a selection when I play with the boys.
Between this and the 3-move Nina Challenge, you're creating some real blue and purple rank monsters Phi, but I'm all for these PP series! As a Jin main, watching you completely de-construct his T8 game-plan and still be surprised when it worked as well as it did was hype as 😂 EDIT: Would LOVE to see a series on Raven or Lee, those guys have such ridiculous (and cool) skill plateau's and ceilings
i dont know how to describe it but if you plan to do more jin theres a good tech to teach people. after the screw in a combo, do down forward 3,3 and hold down forward and you can hit anyone with the 1 version out of the electric slide. the only way to stop it is to quick stand and it'll get blocked but you are also able to do a hell sweep and turn it into mind games
It can also be interrupted by toekick, which if the jin player gets a read on, it can be floated with his ws4 for a mini combo. It's a 3 way mind game, not exactly 50/50
Lol. The easy "you will never drop this combo" combo tech is something I uploaded a video about on my other account during the beta but no one watched it so I just deleted it. 😢 I think I named it "Even a beginner can do these Jin combos" or something 😂
I would love to see Leo! Also whats your tip on defending against other players frame trap. Specifically if the opponent constantly does a frame trap move like dragunov SNK 4 OR Bryan B+1 spam
What’s with some of these comments? We like the idea of a public forum in principle, but when you watch a professional-level player try a character and convey his honest opinion, please show some respect. He’s higher than you in the information hierarchy and at least deserves the benefit of the doubt. When professionals complain about the top characters, the expected corresponding data point is their win% vs these characters (not players) is skewed a few percentage points on average in the pilot’s favor. If you’re consistently losing to a character, it’s either a knowledge issue (go practice) or an actual skill issue (go practice). That’s it. Unless you’re a top 0.01% player, in this game, no other excuses are valid. If you want to noobstomp, pick Eddy or Hworang. If you want to win more easily up to TK, play Alisa or low-playrate tricksters (Zafina, Bears). If you want to win twt top8: be one of the world’s best players, play out of your mind tournament after tournament, get lucky multiple times and pick one of the best characters in the game to slightly improve your odds. Nothing is free. Your complaints are a display of ignorance, not wisdom. Do better. Much respect, Phi. Keep up the good work.
@@willywonka2808 I assumed it was common knowledge that even the world’s best players routinely lose to specialists playing low tier characters. The reason you see them in top 8s at tournament after tournament is they still win more games than they lose against these and all other players. It really does become a statistics thing once you factor in a year’s worth of tournaments. What do you think the spread actually is? And how should we measure it? What we would need to measure, specifically, is the impact of character choice alone on top level win rate over the span of, say, a year of tournament play. And isolating character choice from confounders is no easy feat.
Why is everyone hating on Jin? Not everyone is like your blue or purple rank jin spamming buttons though. It's like hating on asuka spamming sabaki in low ranks.
Jin mains arguing about reactable D2 and DB4 despite having multiple footage of pros like arslan and atiff getting clipped those lows multitple times, is mainly a distraction so people won’t talk about his monstrous mid option select. You people are just as sneaky as your main character. 😂😂
2:08 even as a jin player i wish they would obliterate this move, it is so insane and such a strange option for him to have when you look at how he was in previous games.
It's basically a zen 1+2 replacement and is there because his parry got butchered. Honestly hope they nerf it too and return 1+2 back as max damage punish and fix damn parry
Any jin mains here wanna throw me some knowledge? Is Jin's combo ender where he does ws+1,4 into ewhf guaranteed? I've tried quick standing and side roll.
If you mean ws1-3~3 -> ecd1 than no. You can toe kick it and quickstand for punish (press up on wakeup). If you're losing the last option you may be too slow
You mean the ws1, 3~3 ender into electric cd1? All you need to do is to hold up, but as soon as they figure out that you know how to defend it, they might mix it up with a hellsweep, so be cautious of getting mixed.
Watch replays and figure out what bad habit I'm leaning on. Sometimes it's knowing the matchup but other times it's likely something you're relying on too much.
What character/s do you mainly play and what prowess? In general, labbing common characters you struggle against is good and maybe even watch their guide or even play them tbh. But for habits on your own main, for me it was "always do the right habits even if you suck" cuz with practice and eventual muscle memory you will get it right (I main kazuya). If you're just in a slump, I'd suggest a 3-4 day break or a week like i did, and i played well again because it helped reset mental and stuff.
@istiruparguments I main kazuya dragonuv and lili but I'm switching around to Steve and Lee right now and my prowess went from 175k down to like 172k I just noticed it was dropping
Thanks phi, I know you mentioned you like playing steve. Can you do an educational video on how to play Steve atleast for opening up opponents. Ppl don't respect his lows and just mid guard all day
I've been waiting for this
my streamer oshi max
Same brother
Yes
Here comes the second "Road to Purple" series from The Dood.
@@Cogbyrn I would love to see that!
Hey PhiDX! I was the Dragunov you faced in the video :)) Super stoked to have faced you and I am extremely happy that you thought I was a decently skilled player. I learned a lot from watching this over, and I think I know now where to focus in order to improve. Thank you so much for the kind words, and I hope to face you again some day!!
Reading your comment made me realized that Drags out there were normal human being 😅
Awesome play dude, you were great 🔥
I can never get used to the fact that drag isn't played by just degenerate meta whores. Hope you'll have a great time playing and keep the grind up! 🎉
@@thoraerobruh ofc they are😂 what happens within the realm of tekken has no weight irl 😂😂😂
Hey Phi, just wanted to say I genuinely dont mind longer videos, 30-45 mins is a good watch for me. I may be a minority in saying so, but the more matches and insight I can get, the better
agree, 30-45 min videos is pretty fitting for these kinds of videos, makes up for waiting for rank matches
Hell Yea
agreed
Yeah, same, anything above that might be a little hard to make time for, at least for me, but anything up to the 30-40 minute time frame is great. Less is also fine! I really just want each video to be however long it needs to be.
Lol honestly i LOVE hour+ videos, but thatd make me tbe MAJOR minority; so I said 30-45mins as a nice middle ground
i love the part where jin says ‘its tekken time’
Women really don’t like it though when they try to flirt with Jin, but he just looks at Xiaoyu and then says “sorry, i’m already tekken”
Then he started tekkening all over the place!
Iconic quote from John Tekken himself
@@stefanjuarez6565
😂😂😂
@@stefanjuarez6565 hold up his writing is this fire? 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you for your content. You have no idea how good it feels to watch someone who enjoys the game.
Was having a terrible time playing Tekken 8 online and against my better judgement decided to watch this video. If nothing else it improved my mood and made me want to play the game even more, keep up the good work. You are a positive beacon of light in the community regardless of what some may say.
"im gonna do a panic move"
15:13
the jin main virus works fast! just a day after playing jin and phi is already downplaying him! stay safe folks!
The Jin Virus 😂😂😂
Man's is an affliction to your mental awareness.
First time I've ever rooted for Drag and against Phi lol. Imagine downplaying Jim mashima
@@Walamonga1313mashima is hilarious
Yeah dat Jim IS very strong
@@Walamonga1313
Next he will do a podcast with Devilster on how Devil Jin is stronger than Jin and DJ has to be nerfed accordingly 😂
I'm loving this series. It's nice to see the thought process you go into learning a new character. Also appreciate these videos being lengthier as it gives some time to crunch the information and see it in action. Keep on doing what you do, can't wait to see my main in a PP vid whenever that happens ^^
"being the main character is harder than i thought..."
4:30 phi 4 minutes later in the blue ranks
that’s just life at 300000+ prowess
I'm a Raijin Jin main so I'm glad to see this. I've been using your videos since day one of T8 to break my cycle of "not being dope online" in this series so surely this will help me. Thanks I needed this!!!
yes I giggle every time you say "welcome to PP"
6:50 that did more damage to phi then jin
cant wait for PPPP aka Phi plays Paul Phoenix
YES!!! He'll know what true struggle looks like
I got a Fist
I'm causing Death
AHHH!
Deathfist!
YESSIR THE ANALOGY GOES CRAZY
edit: acronym mb
URAGHHHH STRONGEST IN THE UNIVERSE
@@kdaristotle9529 he'll win with just df2 xD
This series rules, can't wait to see future episodes!
Thank you. i have been playing him since tekken 3 and he is amazing in this current game format. Im loving your series of lets try this character because everyone can play with theory, but the application side of things is what is missing from a lot of discussion in fighting games today keep up the good work.
Why do people think he’s downplaying? Playing Jin just means almost everyone knows the r match up making it harder. Yes, Jin is great. Amazing. But knowledge on him makes it hard.
I love this series, can't wait for more episodes.
I fucking love your videos Phi, the energy and wisdom you have really help me in ranked learna AND even enjoy the experience. I hope you do more Jin Phi plays but honestly I love just watching you and hearing the analysis. Thank you for being what the tekken community should be ❤
Oh and at the time of this comment. I want to also wish you a very merry christmas
“Worst thing to do is start passive “ got it
Me and the other 5 Feng Mains are waiting for the Feng guide.
👍 this is fun to watch, keep them coming.
It's all a matter of believing in your heart
great Tekken 7 video, Mr. PhiDX
Nah really, he played with too much dignity
@@GodlyDiamonds Jin vs Drag match deadass looked more like T7 with both doing T7 combos 💀💀💀
As a responsibility-having adult I would like to petition a definitive pp tier list at the end of this series, with biggest to smallest pp rankings based on personal enjoyment of the characters.
Yickadee…the legend never dies 😂
Came back to this because I wanted to pick up Jin and it helped me win my first match against a Clive, who I've been struggling against on my main. Awesome video!
Jin it
To Win It
Blazblue wisdom holds true
Except Tekken doesn't have Fenricci
Blazblue Jin needs 100 times more skill to play
@@MefedronNePomog lol delusional
But but, according to MainManSWE, Jin is stupidly broken and carries you to GoD by himself, no skill needed, hes basically Tekken King for free, just spam d2, strongest move in the game bla bla
yet TMM spams d2 while haven’t achieved GoD with him yet, almost a year in and jin unchanged for the most part lol
Perfect timing, I started learning this character last week
I just want to see Phi say "not if I get cooked". I just think it's neat
This guy already has Jin main potential. Every Jin main always starts off downplaying the character 😂
I understand the game they're playing 🤣
@@PhiDX 😂
20:34 blue rank in a nut shell
Love the longer videos, all I need now is one for Devil Jin. This is my first Tekken and I just got Jun to Garyu. I wanted to get a couple of character I like to red so I have a selection when I play with the boys.
Great Video! Ty my man!
Between this and the 3-move Nina Challenge, you're creating some real blue and purple rank monsters Phi, but I'm all for these PP series! As a Jin main, watching you completely de-construct his T8 game-plan and still be surprised when it worked as well as it did was hype as 😂
EDIT: Would LOVE to see a series on Raven or Lee, those guys have such ridiculous (and cool) skill plateau's and ceilings
this is the jin video I was waiting for
Song at 7:17?
Tekken 5 DR Meteor Shower - Estrada da Estrela
@@the0manslayer Appreciate you, friend
I reallly like the notations on the side and im learning jin atm so i can copy
Did you tap or double tap step that qcb1 at 9:00 ?
I've been waiting for this. Thank you.❤
I was playing Jin ranked, and have never been more excited for more PP
not enough D2
Scourge ⬇️🤜🏻⚡️
never enough d2
What I find incredible with you guys are high rank is your sense of timing ! Unfortunatly the only way to get good in this is playing
even if it's very simple, it's still highly effective
if the ranked Jins find this vid, local Tekken brackets might be cooked
Peep the profile pic. The streets need Phi Plays Paul
been waitin on this one thank u unc
i dont know how to describe it but if you plan to do more jin theres a good tech to teach people. after the screw in a combo, do down forward 3,3 and hold down forward and you can hit anyone with the 1 version out of the electric slide. the only way to stop it is to quick stand and it'll get blocked but you are also able to do a hell sweep and turn it into mind games
It can also be interrupted by toekick, which if the jin player gets a read on, it can be floated with his ws4 for a mini combo. It's a 3 way mind game, not exactly 50/50
And I'm pretty sure phi is aware of all this
Bro I'm 12 you gotta stop saying PP.
I'm 12 and have 170 reaction time to laugh at pp and hear my parents fight over who will own the house
Based
That never stopped Pokémon
Na we love phis pp
I'm 11 so I'm lively. (You will never get this joke)
“i’m deaaad noooooo” hahah
I just can't get used to use that Zen electric after a screw. I have to do it manually 😅 but that makes me drop it quite often.
Lol. The easy "you will never drop this combo" combo tech is something I uploaded a video about on my other account during the beta but no one watched it so I just deleted it. 😢 I think I named it "Even a beginner can do these Jin combos" or something 😂
I FUCKING LOVE LONG PHI VIDS
We need more match up knowledge like this 😁👍
Finally. My main! Been stuck with Tenryu for so long
More like being the ANSWER character is harder than you thought.
very entertaining Phi! Looking forward to Claudio. :D
I'm hoping we get a Jun video down the line. Since I main her, I'd like to see your take on her gameplay.
Good stuff bro
I would love to see Leo! Also whats your tip on defending against other players frame trap. Specifically if the opponent constantly does a frame trap move like dragunov SNK 4 OR Bryan B+1 spam
@PhiDX who do I talk to about getting coaching from you?
4:37 Is that a tekken map's theme?
Yes look up "tekstep fountain"
What’s with some of these comments? We like the idea of a public forum in principle, but when you watch a professional-level player try a character and convey his honest opinion, please show some respect. He’s higher than you in the information hierarchy and at least deserves the benefit of the doubt. When professionals complain about the top characters, the expected corresponding data point is their win% vs these characters (not players) is skewed a few percentage points on average in the pilot’s favor. If you’re consistently losing to a character, it’s either a knowledge issue (go practice) or an actual skill issue (go practice). That’s it. Unless you’re a top 0.01% player, in this game, no other excuses are valid. If you want to noobstomp, pick Eddy or Hworang. If you want to win more easily up to TK, play Alisa or low-playrate tricksters (Zafina, Bears). If you want to win twt top8: be one of the world’s best players, play out of your mind tournament after tournament, get lucky multiple times and pick one of the best characters in the game to slightly improve your odds. Nothing is free. Your complaints are a display of ignorance, not wisdom. Do better.
Much respect, Phi. Keep up the good work.
Has to be a jin main no other explanation lmfao
I wholeheartedly agree with the top and the bottom part, but the "skewed a couple %" part really had me laughing out loud :'>
@@willywonka2808 I assumed it was common knowledge that even the world’s best players routinely lose to specialists playing low tier characters. The reason you see them in top 8s at tournament after tournament is they still win more games than they lose against these and all other players. It really does become a statistics thing once you factor in a year’s worth of tournaments. What do you think the spread actually is? And how should we measure it? What we would need to measure, specifically, is the impact of character choice alone on top level win rate over the span of, say, a year of tournament play. And isolating character choice from confounders is no easy feat.
@alesscif define routinely because more often then not they dont
I get what you mean but "show some respect, he's higher than you" is pretty dreadful
Why is everyone hating on Jin? Not everyone is like your blue or purple rank jin spamming buttons though. It's like hating on asuka spamming sabaki in low ranks.
They hate him cause they can't be him fr fr
probably glaze over TMM even though he can’t get *his* jin to GoD yet despite spamming d2
@TomiokaGiyuus97 That's exactly it, tmm started this whole jin hate movement! But like you said he can't even get him to GoD smh 🤦🏿
Jin mains arguing about reactable D2 and DB4 despite having multiple footage of pros like arslan and atiff getting clipped those lows multitple times, is mainly a distraction so people won’t talk about his monstrous mid option select.
You people are just as sneaky as your main character. 😂😂
@@asdfghjlqwerty156 are snake edges reactable?
2:08 even as a jin player i wish they would obliterate this move, it is so insane and such a strange option for him to have when you look at how he was in previous games.
It's basically a zen 1+2 replacement and is there because his parry got butchered. Honestly hope they nerf it too and return 1+2 back as max damage punish and fix damn parry
Yeah i really hope they fuck it up, jins who spam and get away with it aren’t playing jin
Liked and commented for the algorithm buff 🐐
Any jin mains here wanna throw me some knowledge? Is Jin's combo ender where he does ws+1,4 into ewhf guaranteed? I've tried quick standing and side roll.
If you mean ws1-3~3 -> ecd1 than no. You can toe kick it and quickstand for punish (press up on wakeup). If you're losing the last option you may be too slow
You mean the ws1, 3~3 ender into electric cd1? All you need to do is to hold up, but as soon as they figure out that you know how to defend it, they might mix it up with a hellsweep, so be cautious of getting mixed.
@@soapman2 FIgured it was quickstand, just doesnt work in a match, might be to slow yeah. Thanks for the advice.
@PokemonSoulGold13 No problem, but just hold up as soon as you see them going for it, there is no specific timing needed.
will we see a phidx jin kazama challenge video?
What do you guys do when you start losing tekken prowess or start getting worse at the game/reverting back to old bad playstyle?
Watch replays and figure out what bad habit I'm leaning on. Sometimes it's knowing the matchup but other times it's likely something you're relying on too much.
What character/s do you mainly play and what prowess? In general, labbing common characters you struggle against is good and maybe even watch their guide or even play them tbh. But for habits on your own main, for me it was "always do the right habits even if you suck" cuz with practice and eventual muscle memory you will get it right (I main kazuya). If you're just in a slump, I'd suggest a 3-4 day break or a week like i did, and i played well again because it helped reset mental and stuff.
@istiruparguments I main kazuya dragonuv and lili but I'm switching around to Steve and Lee right now and my prowess went from 175k down to like 172k I just noticed it was dropping
I don't really know what the Tekken Prowess number means exactly so I ignore it completely. Focus on your game, watch some replays, have some fun.
Cant you do that beginning move with the stance dash with reina too? She has 1+3 Fukuteki which can slide into WGS with DF
Thanks for this. Looking for a little more juice to put me over the top and get me to Tekken God.
Still can't wait for Jack 8.
My problem with Jin is that I don't know proper movement with him. If anyone knows a video that I can watch on this topic I greatly appreciate it
More scourge more win
Mid tekken > small tekken
I'd love to see you play king
Put jin somewhere in the title or description. Unless I search your vids, I couldn't find this video through searching anything relating to jin
JIN SENPAI!!! 👀😈
thank you for this pp jin session, phi! 🙏
Hell yeah fk the jin haters the vid is sick, let the crybabies cry in their little corner
you'll do king eventually?
We all want you to come to the darkside: play King. 🐆👑
i hate wifi jim kazoomer
D2 needs to be locked out for all WiFi Jins ngl
Hell yeah more PP from Phi!
10 minutes in and no Scourge spam? Bad Jim
Thanks phi, I know you mentioned you like playing steve. Can you do an educational video on how to play Steve atleast for opening up opponents. Ppl don't respect his lows and just mid guard all day
Then go low! PKB d+1 baby
I know you’ve already played a lot of Lili but that has drawn a lot of us lili mains to your channel which means(: pls(: (:
We gotta get you a better Jin custom 🙏🏾
Hmm. so how would he play Paul?
Top hat.
Top tier.
I would love to see your take on Kazuya.
Thanks for this PP Jin video. I've looking for some more Jin resources to help me improve.
Jin is the 'answer' character. Do you have the answers?
very nice video bro
As a mid Jin player who can't do electrics, I needed this.
Idk if it can helps, but try to hold the 2 button when u go for EWHF, idk why it's more consistent for me.
@scarfacejvd you never really needed electrics with jin compared to the other Mishimas but in this game you really don't need them.
my man drag using the old t7 combos man step up yo game drag🗣️🗣️🗣️
Do a PP Zafina or a Lidia Phi! So people know what they can do with or against them (I'm genuinely curious)
Dragonuv proving he's still the alpha broken character 😎
Thanks phi now i suck a little less
Can’t wait to see you play Jun 🥺