What I like about Z's progressing art is that you can actually notice how much Goku has grown up. In the Buu arc he genuinely feels like an adult, a man, a father, an experienced fighter with tons of charisma.
YESSSS! That is exactly the feel I get from goku on the buu arch. He acts like a proper adult (for the most part). Not the stupid man child they decided to turn him on db super.
@@turbotrup96 it’s not that bad in DBS. I liked most the characters in DBS. DBS biggest issue is the clear lack of time they had to work on it. Cause it has these moments of genuine greatness.
@@sun332s7 Every potentially good moment in Super was destroyed with dumb writing, sooner or later, yes, but it's not like Toriyama can write much better these days, himself, either. Have you been following the Manga? It's not great by any means. It has some interesting moments, but they're overshadowed by recycled plot and fight choreography, bad power scaling, over the top plot armor (you know shit's bad when a raging SSB+ level villain is unable to KO or kill a Base Vegeta or Goku), bad pacing, etc. And I'm not a big fan of characters' personalities there either. As far as we've seen NOBODY working on this franchise is competent enough to satisfy the actual fans, by FAR.
@@turbotrup96 I disagree the granolah arc is one of the best in the franchise we’re seeing goku actually use most of the moves in his arsenal and them introducing characters that can bypass MUI is great stops making the manga more predictable and the fight itself goin on is crazy as hell it’s lit
ssj2 goku vs kid boo gets me every time. the effects, the environmental feedback, the colours, and the shading and expressions on the characters. when they get hit hard they REALLY show it on their face
Yeah, the the art was beautiful, even as a kid, I noticed the drastic change, compared to the previous episode. I always loved that fight, more than the SSJ3 one, I think because it felt more grounded with better cheography, while the SSJ3, felt like your more traditional DBZ fight, not making that a negative.
Are you crazy? The fillers were making the show unwatchable. It was taking 10 years to throw one punch. Thank God in super they focus mainly on the story and don’t branch out too much.
I used watch the kid buu fight through the vhs tape. It’s crazy how much they created when the manga didn’t dive too much into the fighting visuals. Great work!
Because they really weren’t that bad. I actually still like them. Compared to the really bad animation and art of many episodes of super this don’t seem bad at all.
Episode 279 is definitely one of the best-looking episodes of the Majin Buu Arc/Kid Buu Saga. I honestly love the smirk from Goku to Vegeta and the thumbs up too!!
I like that Ebisawa did minimum to no corrections to Kan'no's work. It makes it easier to identify the animator's art. Plus Kanno was the superior artist so it made sense to not worsen it. DB should never have less than four animators per episode. The proper corrections to the art and animation can be made if needed since the proper amount of staff would be present and the main animators wouldn't have to rush with their drawings. Studio should've had more than two animators.
@@forgottenrelics1197 I learned about that from your Ebisawa vs Uchiyama video. His corrections did get stronger as the series went on. As I was watching his GT episodes; I could barely identify Ohara's work. It was practically non-existent! I thought Uchiyama did the entire Studio Last House episodes by himself. I wish Shida stayed with the studio and Uchiyama backed off of him and Ohara.
This art style is extremely distinct, it inspired an entire generation. There’s something about DBS animation that feels way more… generic? All the round shapes and super bright colors make it feel like a cartoon instead of an anime. Somethings just a bit off nowadays and it’s heartbreaking in a way to know we might never see this particular art in the franchise again. The only thing so far in DBS to kinda come close to this were fights like Goku and vegeta vs Jiren.
@dangerousdays2052 nah bruh super only is better in the higher budget/time moments Z looks better overall normal moments vs super, super looks fricken werid sometimes
I'm sorry I cannot contain my laughter after seeing Goku and Frieza kicking in a loop for a few minutes straight, I just want to slap some cartoon sound effects to make it even better 🤣
It was even more noticeable because the episode prior was one of the best animated especially with the SSJ transformation, possibly the best looking one out of them all
@@shadowpersonoftheunknown6245 to be honest, Nakatsuru as a supervisor is mostly stock poses and expressions, and pretty heavy on corrections too. He does have a far better style than Ebisawa, but I wouldn't say the animation is the strong point of the episode, but rather the art style.
That ish with Frieza holding a pose while only moving his leg is HILARIOUS. I’m going to have it stop the video so I don’t spit out my food or cough up a lung. 😂
I'm always impressed at how you and other folks who analyze anime episodes/fights are able to pinpoint which artists worked on which scenes. It speaks either to how diligently the anime production teams document their work, or to how thoroughly you research for these analyses.
This video is really making me love the Majin Boo arc as most of the animators have matured or have some great correcting to make fights and reactions more dynamic!
This is why I always liked the Buu saga. It had some of the best animation & key framing of the whole series. I used to record vhs tapes of these last dbz episodes and play Hoobastank music over it to sync up with the action lol. That was before I knew about AMVs lol.
When a filler episode has the best animation in DBZ, lol (another filler episode whit great animation was when Goku and Piccolo learned to drive). But I think DBZ episode 179 (matsunaga was the animation director) could have been the best action episode from DBZ, but so many dialogues made that episode half great.
@@forgottenrelics1197 understandable but is still believe that there is much better work also thanks for commenting I don enjoy your work and how you don’t shit on dragon ball supers animation and give fair criticism so I will subscribe
@@iamyourdaddythereisnodenyi2669 That's fair enough dude and I just remembered that Goku did look pretty big at times in the driving episode (Seigasha), did you mean that one or the Cockpit one? And thanks for the sub!
In my opinion, the best looking episode of Z that WASN'T fight-based is 229 "Vegeta's Pride" when Majin Vegeta destroys part of the Stadium. That entire episode is writhing in tension and ultimate rivalry. The buildup to the legendary rematch is unmatched, and the animation and drawing style is downright GORGEOUS. I recently drew a Majin Vegeta that reflects this style, on my website.
The 35 seconds of staring was amazing, I remember as a kid wondering what they were thinking while staring at each other, it gave episodes something special
Has anyone decided to reverse the hue on a DVD or Blu-ray player to -3 and changing a standard TV hue/tint from 50 to 35 along with the natural colour setting of a TV from 50 to 40 and tried the DBZ Kai Final Chapters equivalent of time part 11:17 of their HD episode to see how gorgeous it looks in 1080p?
7:29 Yeah to me that’s supposed to represent her riding across the surface of the water… but as you pointed out, it dies look to show water spray backwards before she’s completely off land.
To be fair, the people making this had no idea it was even possible that they would one day be subject to such harsh public scrutiny. These dudes had a deadline to meet and they got the job done, which is particularly hard to do when you have to fill 3/4 of an episode with fighting.
I am half expecting people to come in and be like “Episode 89 is not a bad episode! Its actually my favorite episode in all of DBZ! I watch it every single day and love it!” Or something like that. There is always that one person.
How can he not mention the abysmal animation in the trunks saga??!!! Episodes 118-125 have some amazing animation and then the very next scene has a 4 year old animating it. It’s so back and forth with the quality it gives me a headache
That fight with kid buu in the anime is cemented in my brain for the rest of my life..the animation was so peak just the way goku is draw n portrayed makes him feel like a true badass hero✊😮💨
I would say there’s worse animated episodes. The one after cell becomes perfect and messes with vegeta was awful. The ones afterwards with the final flash was beautifully drawn though.
This video should be a huge wakeup call to those who believe that DBZ was this perfect series with pristine art and animation every episode. This mindset probably being a thing most likely because they haven’t watched full eps of DBZ in a while. For every beautiful episode of Z, there was always a rough episode out there and this video demonstrates the two different sides of the spectrum.
And this is why Faulconer music is key. While DBZ is just sitting there staring at Goku and Frieza, Faulconer fills the void by going to town on the synthesizer. Its like listening to a symphony
Masunaga although great at animation, is plagued with rubbery, super deformed, just unattractive and off model art. Genuinely surprised you'd consider his the best episode when theres episodes like Vegeta vs Recoome, Goku vs Nappa, Trunks vs Freeza, etc. But regardless to each his own. Huge fan and much respect to your channel and encyclopedic knowledge of the production🙏
They were great in terms of artwork, but this comparison was more so focused on animation, choreography and direction which this episode sits far above in. Also glad your enjoying the content :)
Yes! Especially, with Goku vs. Nappa. That whole episode, I believe it's titled "The Return of Goku," up until after Goku hit Nappa clean in his stomach, followed with Goku saying "That's for my friends. All four of them," was the best animation, in my opinion. The animation for episode 279 and all other episodes with that same animation are just unattractive and very deformed. It looks as if the animators just didn't want to take the time.
Are you serious? Masunagas artwork is incredible. He's the only animator i'd argue did better when he went off model. We got some of the best looking Goku shots in the whole series. Masunaga was amazing at emphasizing certain aspects of characters. Male characters looked masculine and strong.
With how much animation and stills they reuse, I can never wrap my head around why they didn't do half length episodes and play last week's episode as the first half.
I don't really analyze the animation like this I just enjoy the fights for what it is, I wouldn't have noticed without this video cuz I don't watch it to analyze it I just watch it to enjoy the show
When I was a kid I always preferred the sharper art style that became dominant in the cell saga and beyond but I lately find myself preferring the softer look of the older stuff, and preferring Dragon Ball over DBZ for this and other reasons.
Honestly I prefer the limited animation style. Though limited,it still requires a good degree of skill to get across with any amount of satisfaction, and thats evidenced by the fact that its still fun to watch in motion. Being able to portrait a higher amount of strikes with less frames and make it exiting as hell is some Japanese black magic I'm still trying to understand. Bad episodes in super, just feel bad. idk if its because its on a digital canvas, or because even the rushed stills have a degree of alloted care that its successor lacks, but bad animation in super just feels bad smh. Even the worst animation in z era feels leagues better than the worst episodes in super... but great animation in super (especially in the movies) feel mind blowing. thats the trade off.
Yeah, there's way, way uglier eps than 89. Ebisawa's outings weren't always lookers, but I'll take his triangles over Uchiyama's stubborn rounded style, especially as the series progresses. Last House may have turned out some decent looking OG Dragon Ball episodes, but by the Cell and Buu arcs, not to mention GT, they were down right fugly in how off model and non-shaded they were.
Cell VS SSJ2 Gohan are still my favorite animated episodes, and Gohan looks so badass it's crazy. My second favorite is Future Trunks making Freiza and King Cold look like weaklings....that aerial shot with his sword drawn back before the blow was unforgettable.
Yeah I figured why there was a reason I only go back to watch the abridged version of frieza saga after first viewing, but kept rewatching all the buu episodes with real fight scenes.
4:44 this scene of Goku kicking all around Frieza is really awful. Because of how much Goku doesn't move - just one leg snapping around - you'd think the intent is to show his effortless control of the situation. But, that's completely wrong. His face looks wrought with stress, and FRIEZA is the one who's supposed to be effortlessly dodging with his arms cross. So, not only is it really bad looking, but the implied meaning is all wrong too
89 is not that bad. Last House is always the worst. It's sickening. I'm an artist who's been drawing DB since 2000. Last House episodes make me puke every time. 89 is just one small step above anything Last House.
At least the team behind 89 tried to stay on model for the most part. Post Saiyan Saga, Last House is almost never on-model in my opinion. Last House Dragon Ball art just screams "lowest of low budget" art styles.
I know it's not technically anime because it's a movie but you should check out ss3 vs janemba if you haven't, both forms of janemba actually, the animation / choreography is just insane
This is the main reason why the Buu saga is my favorite. The story may not have been as good or compelling as Frieza/Cell, but the animation was so consistent and the best DBZ had ever looked
I'm not sure it's the same episode. But there's a shot around this time where piccolo, krillin, and Gohan go to fly away when Goku and Frieza start fighting. In the distance you see krillin yelling for Gohan to follow them and he's wearing his turtle gi.
Buu saga wasn't the greatest, but we didn't know how good a treat we had with Episode 279. I don't think it ever got as good as that again for Go-ku & his friends.
I said the same thing about dragon ball Z the animation is not always been consistent just as much as super too super yea there than the greatest fighting series of all time gotta keep it real tho great video
You know I was shocked to know that episode 237 of DBZ, the sacrifice of Vegeta episode was supervised by Ebisawa, I was thinking totally shit Ebisawa's episodes are so bad looking especially the Namek and frieza ones, they looked ugly as hell and episode 237 was so good looking that I was thinking that it was an Yamamuro or a hakamada episode because Vegeta and piccolo were looking so good but then I noticed on Trunks and goten and I felt, "O iya chubby face, rounded eyes, they're looking like a 4-5 year kid" then I understood it was truly an Ebisawa episode.
Personally I much prefer the art and animation of DB and early DBZ. The way the characters move and their hair flows feels very natural and organic. When the series gets to super it just seems to get very static and plastic-like to me. The animation in Buu saga Id say is probably the perfect objective middle ground
for me the best animated episode of the series is 179, hyper speed portion of cell vs goku and the climax with the instant kamehameha (i wanted to call it teleport kamehameha but the games.... never liked the name "instant transmission")
Amazing that one of the most iconic and memorable episode's is the worst animated. Get fucked other anime series, everyone knows the tail biting fight sequence.
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What I like about Z's progressing art is that you can actually notice how much Goku has grown up. In the Buu arc he genuinely feels like an adult, a man, a father, an experienced fighter with tons of charisma.
YESSSS! That is exactly the feel I get from goku on the buu arch. He acts like a proper adult (for the most part). Not the stupid man child they decided to turn him on db super.
@@thirteen8582 yeah, notice that in Super EVERYONE seems younger, dumber or just stayed the same, like Goten and Trunks.
@@turbotrup96 it’s not that bad in DBS. I liked most the characters in DBS. DBS biggest issue is the clear lack of time they had to work on it. Cause it has these moments of genuine greatness.
@@sun332s7 Every potentially good moment in Super was destroyed with dumb writing, sooner or later, yes, but it's not like Toriyama can write much better these days, himself, either. Have you been following the Manga? It's not great by any means. It has some interesting moments, but they're overshadowed by recycled plot and fight choreography, bad power scaling, over the top plot armor (you know shit's bad when a raging SSB+ level villain is unable to KO or kill a Base Vegeta or Goku), bad pacing, etc.
And I'm not a big fan of characters' personalities there either.
As far as we've seen NOBODY working on this franchise is competent enough to satisfy the actual fans, by FAR.
@@turbotrup96 I disagree the granolah arc is one of the best in the franchise we’re seeing goku actually use most of the moves in his arsenal and them introducing characters that can bypass MUI is great stops making the manga more predictable and the fight itself goin on is crazy as hell it’s lit
ssj2 goku vs kid boo gets me every time. the effects, the environmental feedback, the colours, and the shading and expressions on the characters. when they get hit hard they REALLY show it on their face
Keisuke Masunaga + Tadayoshi Yamamuro at their prime, the peak of animation
Yeah, the the art was beautiful, even as a kid, I noticed the drastic change, compared to the previous episode. I always loved that fight, more than the SSJ3 one, I think because it felt more grounded with better cheography, while the SSJ3, felt like your more traditional DBZ fight, not making that a negative.
Same! It felt like they were pulling all the stops - always dialed me in!
Also one of the coolest dokkan units now
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Wait, one of the best fights in the entire franchise was filler?! Damn, it's a shame we don't get more of them.
Yes, in the manga, Goku went straight to SSJ3.
Fuck yeah! We need more filler!
Are you crazy? The fillers were making the show unwatchable. It was taking 10 years to throw one punch. Thank God in super they focus mainly on the story and don’t branch out too much.
@@dn22pkkdd476 woah, calm down tiger
@@MS-dc2tt Dude, I can just tell that you're trying to get people riled up lol
I used watch the kid buu fight through the vhs tape. It’s crazy how much they created when the manga didn’t dive too much into the fighting visuals. Great work!
Yeah man the staff did an excellent job!
Its crazy to me that you know every animator/studio involved. All these years I had no idea so much of one episode has so many hands involved
Stupid kid me thought Akira painted everything 😅
Watching this as a kid it didn’t matter how bad the animations were, it was amazing, lol.
Same lol
It was hand drawn
z kai is better
Because they really weren’t that bad. I actually still like them. Compared to the really bad animation and art of many episodes of super this don’t seem bad at all.
@@victorgallegos9858 That's nostalgia talking. Super hands down has far better animation than Z.
Episode 279 is definitely one of the best-looking episodes of the Majin Buu Arc/Kid Buu Saga. I honestly love the smirk from Goku to Vegeta and the thumbs up too!!
Goku and Vegeta will be featured in textbooks many years from now. It’s only inevitable 📚
Y'all remember how awful the beginning of the Vegeta vs Perfect Cell fight looked?
Masayuki uchiyama ruined it
They looked like steroid egplants
Ebisawa's might not look the best, but it always seems to make me smile😅... But man, masunaga is a beast. Awesome video man
Ebisawa often gets good animation for some reason.
I like that Ebisawa did minimum to no corrections to Kan'no's work. It makes it easier to identify the animator's art. Plus Kanno was the superior artist so it made sense to not worsen it. DB should never have less than four animators per episode. The proper corrections to the art and animation can be made if needed since the proper amount of staff would be present and the main animators wouldn't have to rush with their drawings. Studio should've had more than two animators.
It's why I prefer Ebisawa over Uchiyama when it comes to supervision, at least he let the animators under him shine more.
@@forgottenrelics1197 I learned about that from your Ebisawa vs Uchiyama video. His corrections did get stronger as the series went on. As I was watching his GT episodes; I could barely identify Ohara's work. It was practically non-existent! I thought Uchiyama did the entire Studio Last House episodes by himself. I wish Shida stayed with the studio and Uchiyama backed off of him and Ohara.
This art style is extremely distinct, it inspired an entire generation. There’s something about DBS animation that feels way more… generic? All the round shapes and super bright colors make it feel like a cartoon instead of an anime. Somethings just a bit off nowadays and it’s heartbreaking in a way to know we might never see this particular art in the franchise again. The only thing so far in DBS to kinda come close to this were fights like Goku and vegeta vs Jiren.
for me I don't really like how saturated the colors and how shiny everything is
Super is better animated than Z. Cope harder Karen. 😭😭
@dangerousdays2052 nah bruh super only is better in the higher budget/time moments Z looks better overall normal moments vs super, super looks fricken werid sometimes
@@calebr9736 The entirety of Z looks low-budget aside from a few select moments. Super looks like it was actually done by professionals.
the limited animation moments make me think of retro video games after a while
Honestly, the first episode didn’t even seem that bad. Goes to show how high quality dbz is even at its worst.
I don't think that was the worst looking episode. For me, it's probably the first episode of the Perfect Cell vs Vegeta fight.
Lol. That fist episode was terrible. It was a poorly drawn slide show.
10:15 “…And speaking of flat, there’s the storyboard.” GODDAMNNNNN
I'm sorry I cannot contain my laughter after seeing Goku and Frieza kicking in a loop for a few minutes straight, I just want to slap some cartoon sound effects to make it even better 🤣
I agree. The way his leg was moving around like those balloon men you would see at a car wash made me laugh to where I couldn't breath 🤣🤣
Another personal favorite of mines was goku vs majin vegeta fight, along with the build up to it at the tournament. Top tier artwork and animation
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Dude the buu vs goku ssj2 fight was sooo well animated ! 🔥
The breakdown is awesome, it's sad that studio cockpit never came back on dragon ball after z
Wow, this content is amazing. I always wondered why some episodes look poorly animated. Trunks's second episode was a prime example.
It was even more noticeable because the episode prior was one of the best animated especially with the SSJ transformation, possibly the best looking one out of them all
@@shadowpersonoftheunknown6245 to be honest, Nakatsuru as a supervisor is mostly stock poses and expressions, and pretty heavy on corrections too. He does have a far better style than Ebisawa, but I wouldn't say the animation is the strong point of the episode, but rather the art style.
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0:08 ayo freezie pops arching that BACK 😩
Relic uploads :🙂
The video is a animation breakdown:😄
The video is 16+ minutes long 😁
It has Ebisawa in it: 😎
I loved the action in 279, easily my favorite episode. And the fact you picked it makes me happy
That ish with Frieza holding a pose while only moving his leg is HILARIOUS.
I’m going to have it stop the video so I don’t spit out my food or cough up a lung. 😂
I'm always impressed at how you and other folks who analyze anime episodes/fights are able to pinpoint which artists worked on which scenes. It speaks either to how diligently the anime production teams document their work, or to how thoroughly you research for these analyses.
This video is really making me love the Majin Boo arc as most of the animators have matured or have some great correcting to make fights and reactions more dynamic!
Really loved this kind of video, wouldnt complain to see more like it.
This is my favorite animation channel, can’t wait for you to really blow up!
This is why I always liked the Buu saga. It had some of the best animation & key framing of the whole series. I used to record vhs tapes of these last dbz episodes and play Hoobastank music over it to sync up with the action lol. That was before I knew about AMVs lol.
agree the zooming in and out in the freeza saga is hilarious whenever they do it(vegeta stealing the dragonballs was the best time they did it)
My small nitpick: its sad buu saga opening visual in dbz is not updated when buu is introduced.
Yeah I guess it woulda been kinda cool to have Buu in there
I'd love to see this done for Super as well since that series had its ups and downs for animation
yeah would be really interesting to see why some episodes looked horrid and some looked phenomenal
Worst were probably either 24 or 67 because production crashed again during those episodes. 33 was also pretty bad. The most animated episode was 130.
Yeah it’s mostly caused by the art style tbh.
@@aidanshowers8366 exactly
When a filler episode has the best animation in DBZ, lol (another filler episode whit great animation was when Goku and Piccolo learned to drive).
But I think DBZ episode 179 (matsunaga was the animation director) could have been the best action episode from DBZ, but so many dialogues made that episode half great.
Kinda ironic haha and yeah that was a Seigasha ep which were one of the best Studios next to Cockpit. Definitely agree with 179 as well 😅
Nah goku looked like a giant and had a huge neck not saying it’s bad I seen better
@@iamyourdaddythereisnodenyi2669 He's referring to the animation itself, not the artwork
@@forgottenrelics1197 understandable but is still believe that there is much better work also thanks for commenting I don enjoy your work and how you don’t shit on dragon ball supers animation and give fair criticism so I will subscribe
@@iamyourdaddythereisnodenyi2669 That's fair enough dude and I just remembered that Goku did look pretty big at times in the driving episode (Seigasha), did you mean that one or the Cockpit one? And thanks for the sub!
In my opinion, the best looking episode of Z that WASN'T fight-based is 229 "Vegeta's Pride" when Majin Vegeta destroys part of the Stadium. That entire episode is writhing in tension and ultimate rivalry. The buildup to the legendary rematch is unmatched, and the animation and drawing style is downright GORGEOUS. I recently drew a Majin Vegeta that reflects this style, on my website.
Oh yeah, that episode looked beautiful.
This is the "best" review of the worst episode. Awesome work!
That Goku drawing that appears in the background at 11:16 looks amazing
The 35 seconds of staring was amazing, I remember as a kid wondering what they were thinking while staring at each other, it gave episodes something special
Has anyone decided to reverse the hue on a DVD or Blu-ray player to -3 and changing a standard TV hue/tint from 50 to 35 along with the natural colour setting of a TV from 50 to 40 and tried the DBZ Kai Final Chapters equivalent of time part 11:17 of their HD episode to see how gorgeous it looks in 1080p?
279 happens to be one of my favorite episodes so now I know why.
Really loved the background music. Other wise real good video and really enjoy your commentary and explanations.
Really love your work on braking down dragon ball animation, im making a drawing for you as I type this
Awesome, keen to see it :)
The fight with Janemba in "Dragon Ball Z: Fusion Reborn" is the best hand drawn and animated fight scene I've ever seen. Still the number 1 for me.
the fight with kid buu is Goku at his absolute chaddest, thanks to Cockpit
7:29 Yeah to me that’s supposed to represent her riding across the surface of the water… but as you pointed out, it dies look to show water spray backwards before she’s completely off land.
To be fair, the people making this had no idea it was even possible that they would one day be subject to such harsh public scrutiny. These dudes had a deadline to meet and they got the job done, which is particularly hard to do when you have to fill 3/4 of an episode with fighting.
I am half expecting people to come in and be like “Episode 89 is not a bad episode! Its actually my favorite episode in all of DBZ! I watch it every single day and love it!” Or something like that. There is always that one person.
How can he not mention the abysmal animation in the trunks saga??!!! Episodes 118-125 have some amazing animation and then the very next scene has a 4 year old animating it. It’s so back and forth with the quality it gives me a headache
Uchiyama, Hisada, Nakatsuru, Ebisawa, Yamamuro, Uchiyama (again), Maeda and Hisada (again); yeah, the quality gap between the supervisors is huge.
You would do this style of analysis on different anime! This would be so cool to see on more recent shows!
279 so true!!! So smooth!!!!!
One of the best episodes in the Buu Saga in terms of fight animation.
That fight with kid buu in the anime is cemented in my brain for the rest of my life..the animation was so peak just the way goku is draw n portrayed makes him feel like a true badass hero✊😮💨
I would say there’s worse animated episodes.
The one after cell becomes perfect and messes with vegeta was awful.
The ones afterwards with the final flash was beautifully drawn though.
Would like to see this again but with original DB and Super
bro ur so underrated, you need to try to collab with someone bigger to get ur name out there
I did a collab with Geekdom, dunno when the video will drop tho haha
This video should be a huge wakeup call to those who believe that DBZ was this perfect series with pristine art and animation every episode. This mindset probably being a thing most likely because they haven’t watched full eps of DBZ in a while. For every beautiful episode of Z, there was always a rough episode out there and this video demonstrates the two different sides of the spectrum.
And this is why Faulconer music is key. While DBZ is just sitting there staring at Goku and Frieza, Faulconer fills the void by going to town on the synthesizer. Its like listening to a symphony
Ebisawa's art is always a gift to see.
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@@forgottenrelics1197 don’t you shit on him the video lol???
@@williamcarulli they're basically meaning it's a gift to see Ebisawa's work because it's interestingly poor and angular
Masunaga although great at animation, is plagued with rubbery, super deformed, just unattractive and off model art. Genuinely surprised you'd consider his the best episode when theres episodes like Vegeta vs Recoome, Goku vs Nappa, Trunks vs Freeza, etc. But regardless to each his own. Huge fan and much respect to your channel and encyclopedic knowledge of the production🙏
They were great in terms of artwork, but this comparison was more so focused on animation, choreography and direction which this episode sits far above in. Also glad your enjoying the content :)
Yes! Especially, with Goku vs. Nappa. That whole episode, I believe it's titled "The Return of Goku," up until after Goku hit Nappa clean in his stomach, followed with Goku saying "That's for my friends. All four of them," was the best animation, in my opinion. The animation for episode 279 and all other episodes with that same animation are just unattractive and very deformed. It looks as if the animators just didn't want to take the time.
Are you serious? Masunagas artwork is incredible. He's the only animator i'd argue did better when he went off model. We got some of the best looking Goku shots in the whole series. Masunaga was amazing at emphasizing certain aspects of characters. Male characters looked masculine and strong.
awesome Breakdown once again!
Filler? Haha that's a good one! Piccolo and goku racing was very necessary for humanity!!
With how much animation and stills they reuse, I can never wrap my head around why they didn't do half length episodes and play last week's episode as the first half.
I love how everyone trashes super for repeated animation (Not saying there isnt) like z doesn't have any either
6:40 I believe Goku teleported after Frieza kicked him
You should make more of these kinds of videos
I don't really analyze the animation like this I just enjoy the fights for what it is, I wouldn't have noticed without this video cuz I don't watch it to analyze it I just watch it to enjoy the show
been watching this channel for awhile and just barely noticed i wasnt subbed!
When I was a kid I always preferred the sharper art style that became dominant in the cell saga and beyond but I lately find myself preferring the softer look of the older stuff, and preferring Dragon Ball over DBZ for this and other reasons.
Great analysis of Episode 89. It was decent with Spanish voices & Kikuchi score. Unwatchable with FUNimation actors & Faulconer score.🤢
Honestly I prefer the limited animation style. Though limited,it still requires a good degree of skill to get across with any amount of satisfaction, and thats evidenced by the fact that its still fun to watch in motion. Being able to portrait a higher amount of strikes with less frames and make it exiting as hell is some Japanese black magic I'm still trying to understand.
Bad episodes in super, just feel bad.
idk if its because its on a digital canvas, or because even the rushed stills have a degree of alloted care that its successor lacks, but bad animation in super just feels bad smh. Even the worst animation in z era feels leagues better than the worst episodes in super... but great animation in super (especially in the movies) feel mind blowing. thats the trade off.
I thought 89 was fine, it was like a build up for what was to come and it gave some suspense and urgency.
Yeah, there's way, way uglier eps than 89. Ebisawa's outings weren't always lookers, but I'll take his triangles over Uchiyama's stubborn rounded style, especially as the series progresses. Last House may have turned out some decent looking OG Dragon Ball episodes, but by the Cell and Buu arcs, not to mention GT, they were down right fugly in how off model and non-shaded they were.
Imagine if all the episodes had the artwork of that buu episode, dbz would be perfect
Gotenks buu vs gohan buu is one of my favorite fight animations ( when buu starts Dominating) beside kid buu vs ssj2, goku vs cell etc.
If that's DBZ's worst, that's not too bad. Not to say it was well animated, but still far above the embarrassment that was Super.
Cell VS SSJ2 Gohan are still my favorite animated episodes, and Gohan looks so badass it's crazy. My second favorite is Future Trunks making Freiza and King Cold look like weaklings....that aerial shot with his sword drawn back before the blow was unforgettable.
Even the worst animated ones still looked better and had more depth and soul than db super
Yeah I figured why there was a reason I only go back to watch the abridged version of frieza saga after first viewing, but kept rewatching all the buu episodes with real fight scenes.
Super sucks to me because they to away the gritty look, that and the rainbow transformations
The fight of Goku ssj2 vs Boo is so good that they even added to Dragon Ball Z Kai, which supposedly had no filler
Yeah Goku vs Kid Buu is still my favorite dragon ball fight, i remember being impressed by the fluidity and choreography even when I was a kid.
279's art style has always bothered me because the mouths always looked horrendous.
Agreed, mouths and the way their jaws and necks look in many of these shots are just silly and the artstyle looked way better in early DBZ!
4:44 this scene of Goku kicking all around Frieza is really awful. Because of how much Goku doesn't move - just one leg snapping around - you'd think the intent is to show his effortless control of the situation. But, that's completely wrong. His face looks wrought with stress, and FRIEZA is the one who's supposed to be effortlessly dodging with his arms cross. So, not only is it really bad looking, but the implied meaning is all wrong too
89 is not that bad. Last House is always the worst. It's sickening. I'm an artist who's been drawing DB since 2000. Last House episodes make me puke every time.
89 is just one small step above anything Last House.
At least the team behind 89 tried to stay on model for the most part. Post Saiyan Saga, Last House is almost never on-model in my opinion. Last House Dragon Ball art just screams "lowest of low budget" art styles.
Ik its not a Episode but a movie but Dragonball Super Broly was the best animated Dragonball movie/episode I watched so far in my opinion.
I know it's not technically anime because it's a movie but you should check out ss3 vs janemba if you haven't, both forms of janemba actually, the animation / choreography is just insane
This is the main reason why the Buu saga is my favorite. The story may not have been as good or compelling as Frieza/Cell, but the animation was so consistent and the best DBZ had ever looked
I'm not sure it's the same episode. But there's a shot around this time where piccolo, krillin, and Gohan go to fly away when Goku and Frieza start fighting. In the distance you see krillin yelling for Gohan to follow them and he's wearing his turtle gi.
Honestly I thought keisuke masunaga drew almost everything cause his corrections are everywhere in the episode 😅
Buu saga wasn't the greatest, but we didn't know how good a treat we had with Episode 279. I don't think it ever got as good as that again for Go-ku & his friends.
I would like if you do part 2,3 and so on, great vid.
I’m currently re watching dragon ball because I love the old anime
I said the same thing about dragon ball Z the animation is not always been consistent just as much as super too super yea there than the greatest fighting series of all time gotta keep it real tho great video
You know I was shocked to know that episode 237 of DBZ, the sacrifice of Vegeta episode was supervised by Ebisawa, I was thinking totally shit Ebisawa's episodes are so bad looking especially the Namek and frieza ones, they looked ugly as hell and episode 237 was so good looking that I was thinking that it was an Yamamuro or a hakamada episode because Vegeta and piccolo were looking so good but then I noticed on Trunks and goten and I felt, "O iya chubby face, rounded eyes, they're looking like a 4-5 year kid" then I understood it was truly an Ebisawa episode.
Personally I much prefer the art and animation of DB and early DBZ. The way the characters move and their hair flows feels very natural and organic. When the series gets to super it just seems to get very static and plastic-like to me. The animation in Buu saga Id say is probably the perfect objective middle ground
The ssj2 filler fight against kid buu is a sight it behold
The frieza vs goku fight is definitely the definition of make em wait for it
keisuke masunaga's work will forever be an inspiration to me
Damn bruh, regardless of how simple it’s awesome.
for me the best animated episode of the series is 179, hyper speed portion of cell vs goku and the climax with the instant kamehameha (i wanted to call it teleport kamehameha but the games.... never liked the name "instant transmission")
Amazing that one of the most iconic and memorable episode's is the worst animated. Get fucked other anime series, everyone knows the tail biting fight sequence.
I'd say the episode Future Trunks returns to the future was the worst.