The New 22 ARC (Time To Throw Away Your Old 22-250) | TPH 12 Minute Talk

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @timothyjhaller8449
    @timothyjhaller8449 9 месяцев назад +8

    As a dedicated fan and shooter of the .220 Swift and the 22-250 … I’m super excited about the ARC and the opportunities the cartridge offers. This time frame in cartridge development is kinda like the 2nd golden age of cartridge design & development.

  • @806Guns
    @806Guns Год назад +53

    The 22-250 will live on !

    • @omegaman6770
      @omegaman6770 9 месяцев назад +5

      Absolutely ! 💯 👍

    • @ryanbrand3946
      @ryanbrand3946 Месяц назад

      You guys must not reload

    • @806Guns
      @806Guns Месяц назад +1

      @@ryanbrand3946 dang sure do. 22 arc is not a 22-250 sorry.

    • @ryanbrand3946
      @ryanbrand3946 10 дней назад

      In same length barrel bolt gun i can beat fps on same powder in everything I have tried.

  • @kawi733
    @kawi733 Год назад +11

    Got one of Kenny's (eagle eye) from Desert Precision. His freebore is .090 vs .175 and seems to be ideal for mag length seating on these high BC seeds.
    I think it's a great cartridge for the platform; hope it gets traction.

    • @aaronedwards4755
      @aaronedwards4755 Год назад +4

      Funny nobody talks about this. He even said hornady would take his idea.

    • @Rico11b
      @Rico11b Год назад

      That dude is a fruit-cake. He heavily censors the comments of his video after posting an insulting comment thus blocking you from responding and exposing his BS. Sadly he's not the only youtuber that does it, and then cries when youtube censors his videos. lol, Karma much. :)

  • @GreatValueVarget
    @GreatValueVarget Год назад +9

    Oh they’re playing with 25cal for sure. One of the H shooters was rocking a 25creed with no head stamp brass doing load dev for them at a match I shot a few months back when the 134 dropped

  • @Chris_24
    @Chris_24 Год назад +8

    I’m excited about the 22 ARC, especially for handloading in a bolt gun.

  • @bryonjmordhorst
    @bryonjmordhorst Год назад +3

    Oh thank God. I have been waiting on this. Literally paused my purchase until this video was posted

  • @PompdUpFishin
    @PompdUpFishin Год назад +12

    I was going back and forth about building a Valkyrie, but I never saw the .22 ARC happening. With Hornady introducing this….. I think the Valkyrie is doomed to fade into obscurity. Kinda like the .338 Federal. Super pumped about the new ARC. I think it’ll do everything I’m wanting it to do.

    • @ronws2007
      @ronws2007 Год назад +1

      I agree. The .338 Federal was supposed to be a hot-rodded .308 but it never went as far as even the 7 mm - 08 (sometimes called 308 lite.)
      .224 Valkyrie just never checked enough boxes for people who could already do what they needed with .22-250 Rem.
      But just the numbers show that the .22 ARC is going to do everything that the previous renditions did but with greater accuracy.
      Just like 7 PRC is what the 7 RM might fear.

    • @Regnisab
      @Regnisab Год назад +4

      You guys spend a lot of time laughing at and insulting other people.

    • @matthouston8411
      @matthouston8411 Год назад +2

      I have a 224 valk, haven't shot it yet, but I got it to use longer and heavier bullets as a reloader. Kinda just for fun, don't even need it for anything. I think half of all customers for these cartridges never get around to using them for their design

    • @KiYoOutdoors
      @KiYoOutdoors 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Regnisabthat’s the best part

  • @oif3vetk9
    @oif3vetk9 Год назад +6

    I'm super pumped about it. I'll do what I did with 6 ARC, start buying ammo as soon as I start seeing it and build a decent stash then by the time I get a upper (or in this case get a barrel and put it in a upper) I'll be ready to hit the range and as I burn through the factory ammo I'll have cases for handloading.
    I shoot PRS and the 6 ARC has done well for me BUT the only downside is exactly what was mentioned, using extruded powders (Varget or the 100 series of vihtavouri) you'll give up some velocity but like you I'll give some up to have ammo I know is going to be consistent through temp swings. My hope with 22 ARC is to be able to use the heavy high bc bullets and still have very good velocity. If a 85-90gr bullet could be pushed to say, 2800-2850 fps out of a gas gun using extruded powder that would be phenomenal! Of course I run 24" barrels so I hope it's feasible. Was going to build a 6 gt ar10 but I'll hold off. Switching to a 6 dasher bolt gun next year just for fun and hopefully that gives me all of 2024 and winter/spring of 2025 to really nail down the pros/cons of 22 ARC handloading.

    • @Skyhawks1979
      @Skyhawks1979 11 месяцев назад

      I have a 6mm ARC in an AR and really like it. Just wish they would release some factory varmint rounds for it.

  • @jameslee4328
    @jameslee4328 Год назад +1

    Will it have the same problems as the 224 valkyrie? Stabilizing the heavy projectiles... was the only caliber JP rifles would not guarantee 1 moa. Twist should be faster than 1-7?

    • @JReed305
      @JReed305 6 месяцев назад

      I run the 88 in a 223ai with a 1:7 twist and they stabalize just fine. My velocities are in the 2750 range with a 26" barrel so not being driven hard. At 2800fps it should be a non issue.

  • @Blong243
    @Blong243 Год назад +1

    So I'm not an AR-15 fan so bolt guns considered......22 Creedmoor or 22 ARC? Maybe this gets me started in the ARs as well, just have to see what happens.

  • @Longshothawk
    @Longshothawk Год назад +1

    What is the impact of changing the bolt face size? Would the 6 arc and 22 arc be better if they were formed on 350 legend brass and could use a standard full strength bolt in an ar15?

  • @OutOfReachOfficial
    @OutOfReachOfficial Год назад +3

    The whole ARC line is interesting and I’m here for it. I’d like to see the development go both ways a 17arc would be cool but I’m also interested in trying to optimize a little larger projectile to work in AR’s or the micro action bolt guns

    • @peterthiessen4573
      @peterthiessen4573 11 месяцев назад

      Wouldn’t that be essentially what the 6 arc is doing?

  • @ctx_fishing1
    @ctx_fishing1 Год назад +2

    I am curious to why Savage and Howa didn't jump in as well. Looked on Hornady website and they were not listed. Can't wait to see what your statistics are when you get to start testing this caliber.

    • @txpredatorhunting
      @txpredatorhunting Год назад +1

      I’m sure they will. Probably see something come shot show in January. Ruger needs to get on board.

    • @AnthonysOutdoors
      @AnthonysOutdoors Год назад

      Does Savage or Howa make AR barrels? Because this was specifically made for the AR15. It'll take a bolt gun company to take the plunge before others to jump on board.

  • @theproudamerican1967
    @theproudamerican1967 Год назад +2

    I don't understand why they keep choking grendel based cartridges to 2.260" cartridge overall length. No one makes plastic mags for grendel. Dura mags have 2.310" inside dimension. I have had zero issues with 6 ARC loaded to 2.290" . We also need a new AR15 upper that allows for a beefier bolt so we can get 58-60k PSI out of grendel cartridges

  • @chadperry4021
    @chadperry4021 Год назад +1

    Is there a significant difference in brass life between the ar pressures and bolt gun pressures?

  • @kalcolt744
    @kalcolt744 Год назад +2

    Bet those high bc bullets are gonna be a pain in the ass to get to shoot. Low bearing surface has to be alot of air gap in front of the lead. Probably will need a seating stem to not crush the walls in while seating

  • @Drew_457
    @Drew_457 Год назад +1

    Next build will be 22Arc will likely build a bolt gun as well. I have been considering building a 6cm but with that new 100gr eld vt I may stick with the 6.5cm if it performs like they claim.

  • @kenorrah8072
    @kenorrah8072 Год назад +3

    I’m a believer of improved cartridge design, Butt…..I’ll believe the hype when I see the selves overflowing with product.
    Disclaimer…. I’m a pissed off Hornady fan that has struggled to find components that I require.
    In my opinion, Hornady produces quality design but not quantity of product.
    PS - It’s cool to see your clothing selection is camouflaged even in a studio environment..
    Now that’s next level 👍

  • @RodneyNugent-ms9zz
    @RodneyNugent-ms9zz 8 месяцев назад

    What’s your opinion on the Seekins AR 15 platform?

  • @Trinitystillmyname
    @Trinitystillmyname Год назад +2

    I hope saami specs are released for bolt gun version of this cartridge.

  • @mikebowerman5078
    @mikebowerman5078 Год назад +1

    I saw in one of Hornadys information videos that they are also going release an 80 grain ELD X in .224 as a hand loader component.

    • @txpredatorhunting
      @txpredatorhunting Год назад

      Yea, they are loading it in 22creed ammo they are doing for horizon .

  • @jasonweishaupt1828
    @jasonweishaupt1828 10 месяцев назад +2

    Out of all the Hornady gimmick cartridges, I’m eyeballing this one for a future AR upper.

  • @stevenbradley2245
    @stevenbradley2245 Год назад +1

    Just curious if we will have the same issue I had grendel with primer pockets not holding up. Just got my 6 ARC and can’t wait to get started with loading for it.

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 Год назад

      I've been shooting and hand-loading 6.5 Grendel since 2009. I don't lose primer pockets. I'm using Lapua and Hornady brass. Lapua brass will go for 20 loads.
      Federal and PPU are softer brass, so you can lose pockets on them on the 2nd or 3rd load.

    • @stevenbradley2245
      @stevenbradley2245 Год назад

      I lose pockets on Hornady brass after about 3-5 firings. Either in my AR or my bolt gun. I’m not doing anything crazy either. I’m pushing 120/123 class bullets about 2425-2450. Never bought any Lupua because I just recently got my bolt gun 2 years ago. Then everything went crazy.

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 Год назад

      @@stevenbradley2245 I’ve yet to lose a pocket on Hornady brass. Most people on the Grendel Forum report 7-12 loads with Hornady. I’m loading 123gr A-MAX, SST, or ELD-M on 31.2gr of CFE223 and have done so since 2014 with that powder. I get 2490-2519fps between my 17.6” Lilja and 18” LaRue carbines, 15ft from the muzzle with that load.
      What powder are you using and what load?

    • @stevenbradley2245
      @stevenbradley2245 Год назад

      I’m generally using 8208xbr and ArComp. Around 26.4-26.8 grains of either of those powders. The numbers are great. I’m just not getting great brass life.

    • @stevenbradley2245
      @stevenbradley2245 Год назад

      Also the shortest barrel I’m using is 22in. An I’m using a magnetospeed crono

  • @Cachecarlson
    @Cachecarlson Год назад +5

    It’s going to be a cool cartridge and it brings the 224 Grendel to the mainstream.

  • @calangel
    @calangel Год назад +2

    I've done a test in the 223 with temp stability. Xterminator (made in Canada lot) was found to be more stable than everything tested save for AR Comp and the Xtreme powders. It was more stable than VV stuff as well, and likely more stable than most of the IMR extruded stuff suitable for the 223.
    So it's fudd lore to simply assume all ball powders suck with temp stability.

    • @K-bob_45
      @K-bob_45 Год назад

      Yeah there are good and bad ball powders just like good and bad extruded powders(RL-17, PP2000, Hybrid 100V). I’ve had great luck with Hunter in 30-06 and I’m pretty sure black hills uses Tac in 308. It’s like anything. Match the tool to the job and it usually works as advertised.

  • @rangetoolcompany
    @rangetoolcompany Месяц назад

    We just built the most reliable 22 ARC on the AR15 platform.
    It's almost done field testing now.. but 6mm is already probably done.
    22 ARC, new hybrid round out there. Our barrel MFG is a hornady partner and perfected the chamber and has a beautiful rifling.
    Reach out if you want to do a review on the 22 ARC

  • @fomerbu
    @fomerbu Год назад +5

    22 DPC. Type it in your search bar

  • @christopherdodson323
    @christopherdodson323 Год назад +1

    Need a video on just thermals! Looking to purchase my first one.

  • @chrisbailor733
    @chrisbailor733 10 месяцев назад

    Have you had any success with the 22 ARC yet? I am wondering the damage on coyotes compared to the 22 Creedmoor? I know a lot of it depends on shot placement but for normal heart shot does it blow it up?

  • @Gahmaz0z
    @Gahmaz0z Год назад +1

    Yes!!! As soon as Hornady dropped this I thought about you guys and what your take would be.

  • @thatrashman1372
    @thatrashman1372 Год назад +1

    for anyone curious proof barrels are not expected to see them until december- early january but some vendors are taking pre-orders right now

  • @CHenry1951
    @CHenry1951 6 месяцев назад +1

    I still shoot a 22-250, but it has a 1-8 twist barrel with 77gr bullets............... it's all I need and will be around for years, not sure about the ARC !!

  • @joshmajors15
    @joshmajors15 Год назад +1

    Will we see the 62gr VT in a valkyrie offering or do you think they will put all of the focus onto 22 arc and let the Valkyrie die out?

    • @txpredatorhunting
      @txpredatorhunting Год назад +1

      Hard to say, they’ll no doubt focus on 22 arc first , but if the Valkyrie hangs in there , I figure they will slap it in there.

    • @joshmajors15
      @joshmajors15 Год назад

      Excited about the 22 Arc and its potential in the AR platform, but I do love my valkyrie. Good thing is I can reload for both with the same or very similar bullets. I really want to see how that new VT shoots in a 18-22 inch valkyrie barrel and see if it is worth keeping around or saving for a rainy day and trying out the 22arc and the new ammo offerings.

  • @jerrychambers7267
    @jerrychambers7267 7 месяцев назад

    Have you shot the Ruger gen ll Bolt ? If so what’s your thoughts ?

  • @mountainman9973
    @mountainman9973 Год назад +1

    I want to know what the bullet is going to do to coyote fur. And you have to get new bolts for the old 700 action. But it' s rather easy for the gas guns.

  • @TheBlackTrapper
    @TheBlackTrapper Год назад +2

    Hay guys love your podcast , idea for a 12min talk : could y'all please check out KAK's .17-5.56 they cam out with . .17cal that used 5.56 brass , apparently it's going to put preform.17rem along with just being less of a pain in the ass to load for . If y'all could look them up and do a video on y'all's thoughts I'd really appreciate and I think everyone would find it really interesting. Keep up the good work !!

    • @theangrycanuck8331
      @theangrycanuck8331 Год назад +1

      17-223 has been a wildcat for a while, but like the .17 Rem it's extremely overbore from what I understand. I personally think the .17 hornet is the sweet spot with .17 rem being a more custom rifle and longer range shooter.

  • @Back_Lash
    @Back_Lash Год назад

    Howa mini action in 22ARC?

  • @cdavison9491
    @cdavison9491 9 месяцев назад +5

    Its a good AR cartridge, but the 22-250 isnt going anywhere, its still the better hunting round.

  • @MrPi314159265
    @MrPi314159265 Год назад +1

    Not that .22 CM has taken off but will this be R.I.P for that round as well?

  • @ai347
    @ai347 Год назад +3

    6 arc with 110 a-tip or 110smk achieve extremely similar ballistics to the 88gr 22 arc with more energy on target, I’m sticking with the 6 arc because it really doesn’t offer much more that I don’t have. The 6 arc with a 103 with .51 is gonna be better hunting hogs than a 62 with a .4 bc

    • @MrBoostin18
      @MrBoostin18 Год назад

      No it doesn’t. A 6arc in gas gun is hella handicapped by pressure.

    • @ai347
      @ai347 Год назад

      @@MrBoostin18 a 110 smk at 2500 FPS vs an 88 eldm at 2680 (16” barrel vs 24 so -200fps) and at 1000 yards 6 arc drops 37.7moa and 22 arc drops 34.3moa, energy at 400 with 103gr @ 2550 is 832 FT-LB and 62gr eld vt at 3100 (-200 for 16”) has 673 FT-LB at 400 so I think they are close enough where I still prefer more energy on target

    • @MrBoostin18
      @MrBoostin18 Год назад

      @@ai347 anyone running a 6mm at 2500fps is and idiot. 2700fps or i don’t run that projectile or powder.

  • @aaronedwards4755
    @aaronedwards4755 Год назад +5

    I want to see they make something with their new 134gr 25 cal bullet

    • @806Guns
      @806Guns Год назад +1

      25 creed or prc

    • @aaronedwards4755
      @aaronedwards4755 Год назад

      @@806Guns I have a 25 creed but they don’t have anything else for it.

  • @kerrybridges4971
    @kerrybridges4971 Год назад

    I'm a coyote hunter. Had a 224 val but rebarreled it in 6.5 grendel. I cant wait to get my hands on a 22 ARC. I use gas guns only with thermal and it works for me. 22 ARC should be a great upgrade for me.

  • @conradhermann1918
    @conradhermann1918 Год назад +3

    I dont care my 22-250 does everything I need it to,and I am set up for it not going to change.i will say I love my 6 mm arc also

  • @joeyhinton8
    @joeyhinton8 11 месяцев назад +1

    I learneded abot 2 new cartridges today, 22arc and 20-250

  • @twissted1277
    @twissted1277 Год назад +4

    Talk to Eagle Eye Shooting. His development is why your talking about it. He's on RUclips

  • @anthonymeyer183
    @anthonymeyer183 Год назад +6

    204 arc

  • @randylankford2454
    @randylankford2454 Год назад

    Apparently there’s a 6max cartridge now, maybe they’ll take it on?

  • @dremc94
    @dremc94 Год назад +1

    The 22ARC looks fantastic for the specific use cases it was designed for. That ELD-VT..... calling it a "match" bullet is a STRETCH. Little bastard gets bullied by the wind. What I am curious about is your thoughts on this 6MAX thing SOLGW is pushing.

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 Год назад +1

      You need a 2.300" COL magazine for 6mm Max, which is still in development. It means many magazine wells will be a bit tight for it due to variances in internal clearance in AR-15 lower receivers.

  • @justinrogers9427
    @justinrogers9427 11 месяцев назад +4

    Ill keep my 250

  • @Gahmaz0z
    @Gahmaz0z Год назад +1

    I can't get CMMG to answer my messages about making Power Bolt ARs in 6ARC and 22ARC. They are missing out...
    If you don't know what that is go watch the Ultimate Reloaders feature of the 6.5Gren Resolute w/Power Bolt.
    Pretty sure you could run bolt action pressures with those.

  • @jonathandavis7810
    @jonathandavis7810 Год назад +1

    The valkyrie is fucked lol never really seen it taking off in the first place. BTW I simp hard for yall lol yall are the shit! Always looking forward to seeing yalls videos

  • @brians2733
    @brians2733 13 дней назад

    At my age (young Gen X) and firearm purchasing arc (see what I did there?), I am basically done buying new rifles for new cartridges. Can your new cartridge optimize ballistics, with higher coefficients and less bullet drop? Probably. Can I do the exact same thing I have been doing with what I already own, probably cheaper with better cartridge availability? Definitely. Do I need a high volume varmint platform? I don’t but if I do, .223 still works.

  • @Arc-nl7vc
    @Arc-nl7vc Год назад +2

    The 22 ARC sounds good but I'll stick with my 22 Creed and my 6 ARC bolt guns. My 6 ARC is DPG build and it shoots great. My 22 Creed I built myself and it also shoots great especially with the 75 grain ELD-M

  • @theoutdoordog6946
    @theoutdoordog6946 Год назад +4

    So everyone whose loading light 6mm ARC will jump to the new 22 ARC an those of who like the heavier side of ARC will be able to find more ammo.

    • @dankcincy
      @dankcincy Год назад +2

      You're the first one I've seen that actually gets it. The 6 was for sending the heavy, high bc projectiles out to a 1k+ out of an AR, the 22 isn't going to do that.
      It is perfect though for those that want a high velocity, light weight laser out to 5-800.

  • @dwayneshephard2575
    @dwayneshephard2575 11 месяцев назад

    Beat length for the 22 arc??????

  • @forresthenderson7618
    @forresthenderson7618 6 месяцев назад

    Saw a chronograph video today of guy shooting 22 arc factory ammo all three offerings, and was within 50fps of box velocity with a 20 in. Bbl.

  • @willboswell3698
    @willboswell3698 Год назад +2

    I know it will be awhile, but I can’t wait for you to do a barrel length video for the 22 ARC. I wish I had been subscribed to your channel before I built my 6 ARC. I went with a 22” barrel planning on using it as a deer gun for 500-600 and in, then of course I see your video and the performance you were getting out of your 14.5” barrel. I was in the process of building another 6 ARC (which I still may do) when they announced the 22 ARC. If the 22 performs as advertised, I will stop using the 6mm for night hunting and make it solely a deer gun. Great video either way, thanks for the content

  • @hairtrigger2438
    @hairtrigger2438 Год назад

    I’m getting 2960 with 70 grain blitzkings in 6 arc with 16” proof AR. Most coyote shots in west Texas are 300 and in. I’m not sure what this is an improvement on for varmint hunting. Past that maybe it’ll be better for target shooting but most prs shooters like 6mm because you can see miss splashes better than the 88’s in the 22. Id figure about 30 fps loss per inch from hornadys 24” down to 16”. Most likely 240 FPS loss at 16”.

  • @gk5891
    @gk5891 Год назад

    From a bolt standpoint .22 ARC is just another round slower than .223 WSSM.
    From the standpoint of an AR it's just another option more expensive to shoot than 5.56 and .223 Remington.

  • @godofmaine
    @godofmaine Год назад

    How will 22 creedmoor and 22 arc compare

  • @Back_Lash
    @Back_Lash Год назад

    .204 caliber ARC next?

  • @robolson7669
    @robolson7669 10 месяцев назад +1

    Maybe if this takes off I can find 22-250 on the shelf

  • @bucksgaragepodcast
    @bucksgaragepodcast 11 месяцев назад

    As someone who struggled with 224 valkyrie, I'm glad hornady decided to release the 22 arc

  • @IU_RK84
    @IU_RK84 11 месяцев назад

    Just about reached the 13 minute mark. Should I go watch the Hornady podcast? Found another guy talking trash on the 22 Arc. Seems he’s located in his garage and I trust his opinion. 😅

  • @therealdestructicus
    @therealdestructicus Год назад

    223 with a 62 gr is only 150 fps slower according to nosler load data(I know the eld vt will be too long for effective use in 223) but still kinda just doesn't seem like enough of a boost to warrent a new rifle other than for long range target shooting.
    Like shooting yotes 200 yds aren't going to be any deader.

  • @kbowen2251
    @kbowen2251 Год назад +2

    As far as releasing a new product when things are hard to get... This thing has been in development for over a decade. At some point they need to release and honestly...i think they have several things waiting to be released and they prolly chose one that won't take a huge amount of fabrication while things are still so strained.

  • @McDanielRanch
    @McDanielRanch 11 месяцев назад

    22 creed or 22 arc or 22-250 what do u need the round for is the ?. But look we can do this simple and old 7mm 270 243 223 22lr. If u can't get it with those rounds ur chaing ghost.

  • @Strutingeagle
    @Strutingeagle 11 месяцев назад

    Anything of 224 diameter with more powder capacity than the 223 really should be facing an obsolete status. Any study on the 243/6mm cartridges and the versatile bullet weights shows them to be superior. An example would be 55 grain bullets in the 243 Winchester for varmints. Change bullet weights and you have a more capable cartridge for deer and in some states a legal deer round. Check out the BC on the 243 55 grain bullets vs the 55 grain 22 250 bullets.

  • @weldmonger1560
    @weldmonger1560 9 месяцев назад +2

    Why do people always forget about the 22 nosler in an AR platform!? I have one and its an amazing rifle! Guarantee that the 22 nosler will outrun a 22arc

  • @jbcaptain11
    @jbcaptain11 Год назад +2

    Still need more manufacurers of the 6 arc. waiting for the varmint grenades to be in a factory loading. for both these calibers. come on barnes!

    • @oif3vetk9
      @oif3vetk9 Год назад

      Apparently black hills makes 6mm ARC ammo. I had read articles saying peterson was going too make brass but haven't seen that happen yet.

  • @ronharman7665
    @ronharman7665 Год назад

    I have the 6.5 Grendel. I'll be skipping the 6arc and going straight to the 22 arc for my next upper.

  • @Trinitystillmyname
    @Trinitystillmyname Год назад +2

    Its also is hard to get excited about a new cartridge, when availability of said new cartridge is iffy at best. For example, the fudd-tastic straight wall cartridges( legal in upper midwest for deer hunting) come to mind. 450 bushmaster, then 350 legend, then 360 buckhammer, then 400 legend. All were released in a underwhelming way. Lets hope the 22 arc will be released differently.

    • @K-bob_45
      @K-bob_45 Год назад

      Hornady is a pro at drumming up their own fanfare

  • @DanL243
    @DanL243 Год назад +1

    22arc vs 6mm arc for hogs?

  • @V.Scheff.V
    @V.Scheff.V Год назад

    So my question, why would you want this round over the 22 Nosler? 22 nosler is just a barrel swap in your ar

    • @weldmonger1560
      @weldmonger1560 9 месяцев назад

      I keep saying this but no one is mentioning it anywhere. It's all bullshit over the 22 nosler. It will keep right up with the arc if not beat it

  • @kodybracken518
    @kodybracken518 Год назад +5

    The 22-250 isn’t going anywhere …. Ever , and to suggest it might is silly
    Just like the short mag era this to shall pass , and the 250 will keep selling

    • @Mountain-Man27
      @Mountain-Man27 3 месяца назад +1

      Except quality brass for the 22-250 is nonexistent and overall support has been dying the past couple decades. There hasn’t been any on the shelf locally in a few years now.

  • @BNU30C
    @BNU30C Год назад +3

    Am I the only one that still likes speed demon laser beam cartridges? I get the need for a 22-250 replacement, but this ain’t it. 22 Creed is a lot more exciting to me personally.

  • @rdmiller901
    @rdmiller901 Год назад +5

    Another great cartridge there will be no ammo for!!!

  • @calebdavis3110
    @calebdavis3110 Год назад +2

    the 22dpc has been wild cat for months

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 Год назад

      22 AR has been around for at least 14 years. 6.5 Grendel is 20 years old now.

  • @bretthundley9418
    @bretthundley9418 Год назад +1

    CAN WE FOCUS ON PRODUCING MORE OF THE STANDARD AMMOS AND BRING THE PRICE DOWN. COOL ROUNDS THOUGH!

    • @namenotfound8747
      @namenotfound8747 Год назад

      Well until Russia’s war ends, forget about cheap Russian ammo and even when that happens, inflation will have an effect too. It will come down in price but forget about pre Covid prices. Those days are done.

  • @Off-target-xy6bx
    @Off-target-xy6bx Год назад +1

    There’s 2 offerings for 6 arc now another one coming after how many years. You say there’s a ton of 6 arc out there. Does everyone want those two offerings for varmint hunting? So the ammo offered maybe available but the amount offered is only 2. 30$ a box ammo is not going to be a high volume shooting cartridge over 223 and others. I like new cartridges but you have to get industry support from others before it is going to last. The 22-250 has a lot more support and I don’t think it will be going anywhere soon since you also said you can match that performance with the Valkyrie and then said it’s almost dead 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @mylesharvey6488
    @mylesharvey6488 Год назад +5

    6ARC is quite available just not inexpensive.

  • @criminal__8615
    @criminal__8615 6 месяцев назад

    when all gun manufacturers make the calibre, then it might be considered, but even with the ruger 204, gun manufactuerers have dropped this calibre, sako and tikka for instance, and others
    yet the 22-250 is offered by many, so chasing the newest and greatest can lead to issue over time, and while many will build a rifle to suit, many can not afford to build a rifle like that.
    perfect example is the 22wssm ruger/browning pretty much, so i guess after 20 + years then you can say its a standard, other than that its going to be replace by the next newest and greatest

  • @cadillacvelocity
    @cadillacvelocity Год назад +2

    I love the 22ARC, but like they said on the Hornady Podcast, it's a great cartridge for the Eastern states, I live in Idaho and we deal with a lot of wind, and the 6ARC performs better at distance with wind, that and I have four of them🤦‍♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸

    • @alexheilman1035
      @alexheilman1035 Год назад +1

      The 90 grain amax in a 224 has a bc of 585. Moving 2800 fps roughly. If you shoot the 103 eldx in 6mm arc it has a bc of 512. and is moving around 2800 fps. Or you could shoot the 108 grain eldm with a bc of 536 at 2750. The 22 arc will actually do better in the wind.

    • @albertlemont5471
      @albertlemont5471 Год назад

      I do t know where you get your weather information but it is windy AF in Maine.

  • @fattigla
    @fattigla Год назад +3

    I think it's hilarious that people expect ammo makers to produce more ammo so they decrease demand, and then charge less for it.

  • @RammaJamma3
    @RammaJamma3 Год назад +3

    Best thing about New 22 ARC is the case is full Grendel length we’re the 6 ARC uses a tad shorter case!

  • @Velocity4000fps
    @Velocity4000fps Год назад +4

    22 arc is interesting but the 250 is still king of varmint hunting. 200 yrd zero I am dead on to 300, when it comes to hitting small critters at range the less you have to worry about hold over the better. 22 arc seems to come on at extended ranges, 700+ yrds. But be interesting what a custom 250 fast twist 70 80+ gr projectiles would compare to the arc, my bet is it would be close.

  • @dustinshaw2419
    @dustinshaw2419 Год назад +1

    Sounds sweet!

  • @glenoh88
    @glenoh88 Год назад +3

    It’s cool but it’s definitely not throw away your 22-250 good. If wade/hornady have their way, u will have a gun for every slight diff in application and buy more ammo/reloading components. A 22-250 or 223 will do 95% of what it does, u a pro pelt hunter or do varmint control for farmers? Maybe if it’s a tax write off then upgrade.

  • @varmintermagazine
    @varmintermagazine Год назад +3

    That thumbnail!! 😂

  • @Nonedw
    @Nonedw Год назад +1

    !Awesome!

  • @flux_core_fx
    @flux_core_fx 9 месяцев назад

    The Hornady podcasts are excellent, people should check them out

  • @garrettdial9194
    @garrettdial9194 Год назад +1

    I'm getting a Sgt of Arms as soon as i can.

  • @lyndeen
    @lyndeen Год назад +1

    This has peaked my interested. Already listened to the Hornady podcasts around this.

  • @michaelcervantez3570
    @michaelcervantez3570 3 месяца назад

    I have a 6 ARC. I was seriously thinking about getting a 22 ARC until I saw the price of the ammo. For the same bullet, ELD VT, the 22 was three dollars more, WTF! Unless Hornady lowers the price of the 22 ARC, I will stick with my 6 ARC. I want to shoot the 22, but only if it's cheaper.

  • @62rayman
    @62rayman Год назад +1

    I will stick with my 556x42 and 6x6.8 wildcats and keep my 22/250...

  • @markmtbrider
    @markmtbrider Год назад +1

    I dont have a 22-250 so the 22 arc is a strong contender for my $ . I was actually expectind a 22 prc. Same diff i guess.

  • @rkrl1088
    @rkrl1088 Год назад +1

    Just here for the gun amish tear comments . Great video guys .. Please stop breaking the boomers hearts fellas ..

  • @RammaJamma3
    @RammaJamma3 Год назад +1

    6 ArC case is shorter than 22 ARC case that’s what am meaning in the text below

  • @johndeere2799
    @johndeere2799 11 месяцев назад

    Compare the 22-250 CM with fast twist with the 22 ARC.

  • @Strelnikov10
    @Strelnikov10 Год назад +43

    Well, .30-06 won two world wars, back to back, so I don't understand why we need all this new fangled fancy boy stuff. It'll do anything ya ask it to.

    • @txpredatorhunting
      @txpredatorhunting Год назад +6

      😂

    • @DominicZelenak
      @DominicZelenak Год назад +2

      Facetious, yet correct

    • @joshclark8700
      @joshclark8700 Год назад +12

      I carry a 45acp because they dont make a 46 acp

    • @rboyett
      @rboyett Год назад +9

      Ok boomer

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 Год назад +4

      Artillery, mortars, tanks, and machineguns cut down soldiers in the world wars. In WWII, airpower stepped up into the amount of ordnance that could be dropped on people and structures.
      Small arms could have been any centerfire rifle chamberings and we still would have won.
      .276 Pedersen would have been superior due to 10rd en bloc clips and a lighter Garand.