Ford 3.5L EcoBoost Turbo Failure?
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- In this video we show you exactly how it sounds when you have an exhaust manifold leak on the Ford 3.5L EcoBoost Engines. @ford #automotive #automotiverepair #enginerepair #ecoboost #fordf150 #failure #fordtrucks #ford
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Yep! $3000 and 2 new turbos later, I still had that! 😂😢. At least I got some new turbos!
Ahhh, how nice of the dealer.
Mine old dealer claimed.$3000 per side.
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replaced 1 turbo on my 2014 F150 in 2019, $1300 before tax, Canada.. so far so good
Same here 😅
I don’t think you are ever wrong. You’ve helped me greatly on all my fords you really know your stuff glad to have your channel
Yep had to replace the driver side. I lucked out my service rep. at the dealership knew exactly what it was. Thanks
Its normal for the turbos to whistle while accelerating but that particular whistle was def louder and not normal sounding
Thanks Brian..... Good looking out, as an amateur I'd of NEVER thought a weird (whistling noise) is the exhaust manifold......
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Would have sworn that was a slipping belt! Thanks Brian!
Thanks for the heads up I have a 5.4 but it’s nice to be able to identify it.
Man I could have used this info 5 years ago when a shop sold me a new turbo and still didn't fix it. But thanks for getting the info out. So glad I have my 2023 Titan XD V8 now and got rid of that piece of crap 2019 F-150 I had with the 3.5. Worst engine I've ever had.
The only reason I bought my Ford F150 two years ago with an eco-boost engine, is because I know I could look at this channel when I have a problem
lol 😆 and Fords are relatively easy to work on too
Eco booms
Dude!!!!! I’ve replaced belts several times, and was going to get into possibly the AC thinking its bearing was gone….but this is the exact sound I’ve been hearing under boosted throttle for months! I was losing my mind over a perceived belt squeal that wouldn’t go away.
Is the engine light on? Did you monitor your pids such as CHT?
Mine has made the same noise for years, exhaust manifold is good, slight leak where the downpipe meets up with the turbo👍🏼
Sounds exactly like a turbo spooling up, except it should have already spooled up at that point in time!!!
Sounds more like belt squeal but I'll take your word for it.
Great to know. I have a 3.5 Turbo in our Flex. I will remember this noise tip if we ever get it!
I've heard something like that, it was a leaking turbo on the turbine side of a twin turbo V12 cummins. Couldn't fix it because we didn't have the correct parts; military was phasing it out.
This happened to me. Took it to Ford, and they said it was the turbo and wanted like 3k to replace it. I said no, bought the turbos and did it myself, and found the broken stud in the middle of swapping the turbos.....so now my truck has new stock turbos 😅
That video you have on the oil pan replacement for the f150 is the same for the ford raptor I have a 2017 thanks
ALSO CHECK CAC TUBES !
Exhaust surging out around the leak in the ecoboost system. Makes perfect sense.
Even when it's running good it's no match for a straight 6 cummins he put up a little struggle but he was mad when defeated 😂
Pulled 7 tons with this setup over the rockies, no issues. Only weak link being the radiator size. Cummins is a legend. I enjoy the cheaper fuel🤷♂️
I found out it was the exhaust manifold after I bought 2 brand new turbochargers 😂😂
I would totally ignore that thinking it’s just wind over something as I drive
I wonder how many guys swap out all the pulleys before realizing it’s the exhaust manifolds 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why does it seem like every generation of the Expedition has an eventual problem with the exhaust manifold?
thats exactly what mine sounded like too.
No one like you big Dogg 🙌
I was told by my Ford Dealership You need to use Sunoco 93 Octane and it will Help Lubricate the Turbos!
sure
That’s the whine of my turbo actually lol 😂
well that’s not a hard fix 😆
Could you potentially just keep driving like that? Any downsides to doing so?
I’ve been driving like this for a year and a half. It’s getting obnoxious now tho
You noticed the expeditions are louder the a f-150? I got a xl version n the turbos whistle like a rocket! Kind of like it
what year is ur expedisiton the loudest ecoboost gotta be the 11-16
@@TheLawlessGang exo’s didn’t have the eco boost till 2015. Mines a 15. It might be loud cause of rubber floor mats.
Have the 3.5 haven't had this problem but good to know
What’s the fix? New manifold? New turbos? Is there a gasket needing to be replaced?
Cracked manifold or leaking flange
Just weld the manifold to the block.. Problem solved.
@@calholli lol
New manifold, new manifold studs and all the other little stuff that goes with that adds up quickly as far as cost is concerned. You will have to pay someone to extract the studs that have broken also.
I wish you could take a road trip to ma. and fix my 5.4 3v no start after sitting 2 years
Yup, heard this sound more than once on a 6.4 international bus, except MUCH louder. Broken manifold bolts each time.
I see so many people putting the wrong gas in these. Not taking care of them. I love the 3.5l. Just take care of it
Na 5.0 on a 95 f150 engine makes a bad rattling sound when I try to accelerate too quickly. Worse when going up hill. What could that possibly be? Light gas no sound, foot stomp and no power gain just a lot of noise
I'd just tell the ladies that it's a turbo upgrade.. They would all be impressed with me
What is that scan program you are using?
Ford IDS.
That's a squirrel stuck in the manifold...stop lying.
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From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧 ⏰️ 16:33 Good Afternoon
Hi i have a sho with the 3.5L and i have a bunch of misfire and the car is moving slowly and shut off i have this code showing P068A ECM/PCM power relay De energize performance to early
Which engines had more issues acording to you, 5.4 vs 3.5? Im thinking between 2014 expedition vs 2019 expedition i know they are complytly different inside and outside but im looking for reliability. Thanks love your channel.
how exactly does a manifold, "go bad" ? its just a chamber? Did it rust a hole? is that whats whistling?
They can develop a crack due to the constant expansion and contraction from the heatin/cooling cycles, especially when the manufacturer uses cheap metal. Another common cause in these, is the studs fastening the manifold to the block tend to lose clamping force, or they just snap.
@@RedFoxwithTubeSocks-hi7jj ahhhhhh, that makes sense. Thanks for sharing.
Wouldn't this easily be mis-diagnosed as normal turbo spinup?
Can I ask ya a mechanic question? My brake switch went out on my 2003 Ford Explorer so I replaced it and the no start would happen so I had to move the locking pin in the shifter and start it in low neutral now. I can't get it to go into reverse while it's running. Please help.
WOW where was this video when I had my 2011!!!! I kept thinking it was my turbos!!!!
What do you do about the water pump lower? Only one bolt is even close and doesn't stop the weeping! It's the same basic problem as the manifold but there's no improved component to install.
I thought it was my driver side turbo bearings, got a used turbo from lkq. I watched a video on how to replace it and learned that it’s common for the rear studs to break. So I went to check them my wheel well and sure enough broken stud. Got the bds manifold kit and put on the lower mile turbo from the salvage yard and called it a day. Now I’ve got a good used driver 3.5 turbo on my shelf :)
So, if I were going to buy a newer Ford truck, which one(s) are most reliable?
Feel free to not answer me directly but make, or point me to one of your videos.
Thanks in advance and thanks for the content.
How long can you put off with an exhaust leak? It's going out anyways..
Thanks again for the content
Can you do a 5.7 hemi tick video on your other channel? Please?
Mine sound more like a woupi cushion. Put them to a belt sander and got them leveled again. Blown exhaust gaskets along with all bolts replaced including the gaskets and seals for the turbos oil and coolant lines.
😙🎶🎶Ford eco boost maybe has a whistlin diesel under the hood
Mines been like that for 240000km hahah im bot changing it
confirms I'm just going to stay away from any ecoboost
I hear this all the time in the turbo diesels driving past me,and that’s not normal? I thought it sounded kind of cool.
On a diesel yes.
I needed this video four months ago
lol
My whistling is back. 3rd set of manifolds. Studs don't hold. New ones replaced every time. This current set of manifolds were aftermarket supposed beefed up just for this issue. Truck is rusting out. Don't feel like changing the manifolds again. Still have scars from the previous ones. Will it hurt anything to let it go? Its not throwing any codes yet. No drivability issues either as of yet.
Inconel studs from Full Race.
Found and fixed this same problem on a Chevy Cruze today..
you could have boosted the audio, man!
Wait you didn’t hear it?
Had mine replaced. Over 3k
Had that exact sound on mine.
I'm old school and stick with tried and trusted V8. Pick the two Xtra cylinders over the two turbos and you'll be much happier and keep more money in your pocket.
Sounds like the whistle my 5.4 3v makes under acceleration wheb warmed up. Sure, enough broken exhaust studs. Guess I know what I'm doing this weekend.
Whats your ballpark time and cost to fix this issue? Might need to schedule an appointment for my 2012...
Turbo on a small engine has ALWAYS meant failure. Like a race engine. Meant for performance in the short term over longevity. Ford chose to make a engine that fails.
Sounds like diesel boost
Two words- coyote v8
Time for headers and a catless downpipe
Crappy plastic intake
Just so glad not to have this sound anymore. Was fn embarrassing!
I do believe everything is designed nowadays to fail it makes the world go round
Sure miss your videos, longer ones that is.
I just posted one a few weeks ago. It is ultra busy in the shop, not much time for RUclips.
How does a piece of iron fail? I can see if it gets a hole or crack or the gasket is bad but isn't it just iron like older exhaust manifolds?
Sorry, the manifold gasket fails due to broken exhaust manifold studs allowing the manifold to warp.
@@FordTechMakuloco ok, that makes more sense
and this is why anything other than a v8 naturally aspirated engine in a truck/suv is a bad idea!
What can we do to get this fix?
Exactly.
Makes it sound like a diesel.
Found on road dead (FORD)
Where does the sound come from?
From the exhaust manifold. The exhaust gasses are escaping through the gasket area causing the whistle. The manifolds warp from heat and the studs break allowing the gasses to escape.
So gas consumption rapidly increases, correct?
@@colinjarrett5079 probably. You lose power so your foots in the gas further.
Check those rear exhaust manifold studs normally the very rear one is broken!
yup
Lots of 3.5l failures on the channel lately. I haven’t seen too many 2.7l failures on here though.
It’s the ones that don’t take care of them. Look how dirty that basically new expy is.
Not true. I take care of mine('13 F150, 99K miles) and mines leaking coolant at the turbos. Alot of the problems are known issues with the ecoboosts.
@@tagle2818 when did you change your coolant, and with what kind
@@michaelstevens04 I use yellow Motorcraft. The seals go out. Has nothing to do with when you changed the fluid but it's been changed since 45k.
Vacuum pump seal and valvecovers are another known issue and I just replaced those at 95k.
@@tagle2818 425k on my 2015 and it’s still on the original seals. Fluid has been changed every 20-30k miles with yellow MC and anti corrosive additive. Also had the undercarriage coated so they may have helped aswell.
Just a few weeks ago I was up in the mountains. As I was traversing up and down the mountain most of the time going down I would get this exact noise. I don't have any other exhaust noises and I don't have any other smells. So what is causing that exact noise if I don't have an exhaust manifold leak.
Waste gate?
mine has a different noise it moans
I have always said that Turbos should only be on diesel engines. The turbo needs the diesel fuel to lubricate and cool the turbo. Otherwise they overheat everything and stuff like exhaust manifolds crack. Turbos can make unlimited hp but is restricted by lack of cooling.
Ecoboost turbos are oil and water cooled.
They could just build the manifolds thicker.. but that would be too easy.
@@tagle2818 It does not matter the turbos still fail due to heat. Just look how long turbo last on semi trucks 100,000 +.I had 5 turbo gas cars and rarely got 25,000 miles without heat problems.
Do me a favor would you let me hear it, the way it's supposed to 👍,
There junk to many emissiond😅
I like the power of the eco-boost but I like the 5.0 Coyote engine in our 2020 F-150, it still has plenty of power and don't have to worry about future turbos or turbo gasket seal failures 👍..
The best advice is don’t buy a new ford they’re junk
All mechanical devices have issues from time to time. The fact that Brian posts problems with the motor isn't at all a condemnation of the engine. Lots of good news stories too.
When will Ford admit that this engine is a failure....
It's a decent engine, when taken care of. And it's N/A brethren (3.7L) are downright great engines. I've seen a completely unopened, untouched documented '14 3.5 F150 with 320,000 miles on the clock, was in my shop only for a minor leak at the valve covers. Really not bad.
I'll defend my 3.5 it's a beast
3.5s aren't failures at all. People just don't know how to take care of vehicles and motors
3.5 is the best 6 turbo out there
It's a fantastic engine, what are you talking about. Brian is a mechanic and mechanics fix problems. All cars come with their own set of issues sooner or later. I own and lease a pile of 3.5 EBs and I think they're a good engine.
I am driving across the county to your shop when i need important repairs done.
Sounds like an old school fan belt (pre serpentine).
Junk