Everyone talked up T Lawrence, Trey Lance, J Fields, Z Wilson, and Mac Jones. Out of that whole QB class only T Lawrence is still a starter. He went #1 just like Caleb will go #1. Thereafter, the 49rs traded away the farm to get Trey Lance. That's basically what the Giants would be doing to move up. Sometimes doing nothing is the best option. Rank the players and take the best one who falls.
Not in reality. They still hype Trevor Lawrence as if he were the best prospect ever.. Trey Lance was hyped but he really has a strong arm. He has good size and he can rush. With minimal opportunity, he was disregarded and even criticized.. They hyped Zach Wilson as if he were Aaron Rodgers.. Subsequently, Justin Fields fell in the draft after being deemed the 1st/2nd best quarterback prospect his entire tenure in college.. They undervalued him. I wasn't even aware he's a great rusher. It's already easy to argue that he's the 3rd best rusher at quarterback. Mac Jones was hyped coming into the draft and during his rookie year, they compared him to Tom Brady. He even made the pro bowl.. Daniel Jones is not good. They will not win with him. He's hindering New York. Whether they sign a quarterback later or not, they need a quarterback now.
That was on the 49ers because as a Div 2 QB everyone knew they were taking a chance at trying to land Wentz 2.0 when everyone thought Wentz was legit. The rest of those guys just went to bad franchises or very bad situations. I agree though that they'll maybe get the 3rd QB off the board which is ok this year because after Caleb is pretty much a coin toss on if any of them will be a good starter in the NFL.
We might as well keep him and get a qb next year. Either get a weapon a 6 or trade back and get additional picks and get day 1 starters. We already have to pay him. We might as well get whatever use and build the team up so that way when we draft a qb next year, he will come into a very good position.
What they are failing to realize is that any QB they draft will still back up Daniel Jones for this year. Therefore, drafting a WR to help this year is the best route to win this year.
Thank you! Shady be talking about like hof rb l. Even Peyton hill is lead the league in rushing once. He’s a trash commentator his takes make no sense and are bias
They’re saying they shouldn’t of taken DJ at 6 but we’re picking 6 again and there won’t be a better QB to draft at 6. It’s easy to say draft a QB but whooooo!?!?! He said Draft MPJ at 6 when he’s projected to go in the second round 🫤🫤🫤 what are they really talking about 🤷🏾♂️
Yes, reaching for a QB with the 6th pick just for the sake of a QB is a great idea. Last time we did that we ended up with... you guessed it, Daniel Jones.
The only QB taken before Daniel was Kyler @ #1. That was a weak, very weak QB draft. This draft is not. Either pick a qb @ 6th or trade down and get more picks to build the team and draft a qb next year. Definitely do not burn picks to trade up.
Dude THANK YOU and not just them but ESPN as a whole. The hate this kid has been dealt since day 1 is ridiculous. I just wanted a whole story of a comment about it lol. How can u TRULEY evaluate a QB that's NVR HAD even an Avg O line or weapons to help him . NOT TO MENTION NYG BEING at the tops past few years in dropped passes. I TRULEY hope he comes back healthy and has a chance to show himself this season. We made ALOt of improvement to the O line in free agency already then if get Nabers to pair up with Hyatt, Robinson MAN TALK ABOUT SPEED.
But they love Justin Feilds, at least Jones has shown he can put together a winning season and win a playoff game with no weapons, , what has Feilds done except put up running stats.
Drafting a QB when you have other major issues, is simply coaches buying themselves more time and pandering to the fan bases with a shiny new toy thinking a QB is going to solve everything. It doesn't . Drafting a QB to save your job when you have so many other issues buys you 2 seasons, this year and next year to get your rebuild done. If I am the giants I am hoping the Vikings trade up to 4 or 5 and grab a QB so nabers or MHJ drop to me or I am trading back with the Vikings for their 2 firsts, grabbing the best WR available or penix/ nix at 11 then at 23 trying to get a WR at 23 or a lineman.
honestly giants should look at the possibility of trading back if a team like denver or vegas offers something and take a OT. No matter what position they take on offense they will not be set up for success if they run out the same oline as last year. Take a receiver at the start of the 2nd and let jones play out this year then explore your options next year with a better set up for whatever qb comes in after him.
I mostly agree with you, the only way I think they should take a QB is if Dabol is absolutely in love with 1 of the guys they can get this year but if they plan to play him and let the young guy get CTE behind that line next year there's no point in that either.
@@ahastar1141 I think the only qb they should consider is pennix unless they are trading up. Nix just doesn't look like he has that big of a ceiling to me and more likely than not will put us in the same situation we are now 4 years down the line. Pennix at least looks to have the potential to be elite if he stays healthy and can learn to be more comfortable inside the numbers near the box.
Joy don't know what she be talking about her mentor is shady , I they want to do is come on the show and talk about Dak , Dak stay in both of there heads all year around especially joy since Dak turns her advances down
@ahmedegal6808 ....... that's not what I was referring to genius. Daniel Jones was a 3rd to 5th round graded qb. Gettleman pulled a move only he can do and picked him 6th. Dj is what most of us knew he was. He might do better with a better team, but I honestly doubt it. Penix? Dude been a baller and I'm glad he came back from the rough days at Indiana the way he did. Better injury history and he's going higher
I love how Daniel Jones and Mac Jones have both made the playoffs with no weapons , but Feilds was so great to the media and everything wasn't his fault.
Yes Daniel Jones is not the answer but Giants need a LOT OF THINGS. They should move back up and get some more draft capitals to fill up the roaster. They need OLine, WR, LB, Safety (they lost McKinney), RB. Drafting another QB is not gonna help the situation.
Pick the best player at #6. There’s no game changer qb at 6. Don’t waste the pick. Everyone knows qb is the most important position but you’re not just gonna throw darts every year. Giants should trade back if they get a good offer and load up on talent as much as possible
Get your WR1 in rd #1 and get Joe Milton later on. If Josh Allen had so many issues in his 1st 2yrs in the league but had success with Daboll, then I believe Joe Milton can have success with Daboll too. He's the same size as Josh and has a cannon like him too.
If the Giants can't get MHJ, they better trade back and take the best DB. The defensive front is solid, get some help on the back end. Use the 2nd and 3rd to draft offense and see if you get someone solid and start building the offense next off season along side Hyatt and Robinson. No one player in the draft can help that offense. but if they can create a top 5 defense... they may have a shot in the division.
I actually think a trade they could make is with the Vikings for their 11th and 23rd. Still gives them a chance at a QB or WR at 11 then maybe a QB at 23 if they didnt grab one or trade that pick for extra picks in the 2nd to grab lineman and or CBs.
If you draft a QB you are in theory starting your " super bowl window" as teams with cheap rookie QBs are able to pay stars around them to hopefully get to the super bowl before the rookie QB has to get his bag. Are you telling me that if the Giants take a QB right now, they'll have enough pieces to hit their super bowl window in 4 years assuming this year is kind of a wash? Not to mention picking an older rookie knowing its gonna be a few years before the team is even gonna be right for a rookie to have a chance? Foolishness. If they grab a guy it has to be someone young like JJ or Maye
Based on how Daniel Jones' contract is setup it would be wise to suffer with him in 2024 and then cut him to save cap space in 2025. If the Giants want a QB then they should pick one in the later rounds but the earlier picks need to be used to address other issues on the roster.
Acho's defense of his nonsense take was so bad that Joy laughed uncontrollably. That man said "he threw for 15 touchdowns..." while also claiming that he's not that bad.
If you dump Danny Dimes for Penix or any other QB, you better fix that O-Line so he can survive. Jones isn't slow and he spent a lot of time on the ground.
Why didn't they keep Cambell or get another free agent WR, they can easily get a WR in the 3rd round, and they need an RB, OT, OG C and TE. They didn't think it through.
Paris played horrifically dropped to bottom of depth chart at mid season and was NVR seen again. Not saying it was HIS fault but with the online so bad his routes were like 4 yards long lol. Just didn't fit. Now in Philly he'll probably play great but is what is😞
Don’t go for it at 6 overall. Grab a star WR and gradually improve on your qb situation overtime. Remember, the chiefs had Hill and Kelce before Mahomes came to town. I don’t care how you do it but the Giants have options. They could keep squeezing everything they can get out of Daniel Jones, make him run the ball like his life depends on it. But honestly, I personally would move on from him and try to find a qb with higher upside, without wasting prime draft capital. You could find a qb in free agency or trade for a mid-level starter or backup qb (remember Brock Purdy was a backup and he was almost a free agent too). Also, there are some nice young backup QBs in the league right now that Daboll can develop until you have a better option. Tyson Bagent comes to mind. And if you don’t want to take a chance on young guy, grab a veteran backup qb. DO NOT waste a draft pick on Bo Nix when you could have MHJ or Nabers (and this is coming from someone who actually likes Bo Nix).
It's crazy because none of them do not watch New York Giants football. Daniel Jones came into the league with no wide receivers and no offensive line. Every good quarterback in the NFL today has an average line and a wide receiver. Joe Schoen brought in offensive lineman through free agency and now he drafted the best wide receiver. All I can say is watch Daniel Jones cook in 2024. He has Malik, WanDale, Hyatt, Slayton and Darren Waller to throw to with a descent running back in Singletary. This offense will be a force to reckon with in 2024. Go Big Blue
The giants don't have the assets to trade up. Thats what acho is saying. So you gotta hope the one you want falls. But at some point it's too high for the 5best qbs. And they don't have the assets to give up as much as the other teams that also need qbs.
Yeah only bad QBs break multiple records their rookie year, throw 24 TDs, and run in 5. Only bad QBs end up 6th overall QB with no weapons which was the season before last. You dont know what youre talking about. No QB will look good behind the worst OL in the league, with WRs that constantly tip the ball, or drop passes.
If Slayton had competent QB play all year he would have been a 1000 yds receiver. He averages over 14 yds per catch and has had over 700 yds per season the last two years when he was the second and third option behind Saquan and Jones running the ball every other play. And Acho needs to do his homework before he comes on TV, Larry Fitzgerald had Kurt Warner and Carson Palmer throwing to him 10 out of the 16 years that he was there. Giants need to get a QB period. They have already addressed the O-Line through free agency and coaching, they have good young receiving core, and a good defense. They can add another receiver and DB in the later rounds. They had Odell which was a top receiver at the time, and they had one playoff appearance. He was entertaining but the Giants didn't win a lot.
Acho shouldnt be saying anything on JJ. Acho isn't someone I trust evaluating talent in the transfer to the league as he couldn't even make it far himself
If the Giants trade up they won't have picks to build around that QB and build the rest of their roster. Can't force a QB pick just for the sake of it and that's what happened with Gettleman in that same spot drafting DJ at 6. They'll have to move up and the capital they'd have to give with pretty much stop them from improving the rest of their team. I can't imagine JS going to ownership after paying DJ last year to ask if they can mortgage the farm to move up and get another QB and already have a crowded QB room with 4 QBs. Mara and Tisch would have to be looking at these guys crazy like... "We signed off on signing DJ and now you want us to be ok with mortgaging the farm for another QB?" Not only does that sends a bad message and create a lot of unnecessary drama, this would be a "we f***** up" moment. That doesn't even include the other holes on this team that they have. You can't mortgage the farm and expect to build out your roster, plus he's not even going to start day 1 anyway if DJ is healthy. I just don't see the Giants mortgaging the farm to try and outbid the Vikings for a QB who have more assets to give.
Good evening young people, y'all got it going again. I said get a good quarterback good wide receiver. Take it from there. Get another quarterback let them fight it out. Whoever's the best one go from there and if the first quarterback don't want to be the backup by out his contract, let him go what's happening Joy Taylor, you're looking beautiful as ever. Smart as ever y'all be cracking me up with shady and Jones. Y'all the wild bunch free content. Keep it up. This is the senior citizen. Always watching y'all. Oh well. Got to got to go to sleep. Peace, love and hair grease😊
Giants haven’t had a WR1 since Odell. So JJ McCarthy better pray he doesn’t end up in New York, cause nobody’s gonna help them there. At least Jones has Saquan
@@ahastar1141 there are 7 teams that need a first round QB. Those teams being the Bears, Commanders, Patriots, Giants, Vikings, Broncos, and Raiders. Out of all of those teams the Giants-Broncos-Patriots are the only ones who don’t have a WR1
@@twindragon5668 I am not sure I agree with you there. Similar to the Vikings the giants would be looking for a guy to sit a year behind a guy to be developed. While the giants and Vikings need a QB of the future and have a stand in for this season, they differ in that MN really just needs a franchise QB. Their offense is set in that they have the receivers, the online and the coach, but just need their guy. The giants need so much that it kinda reminds me of Carolina drafting young with no one around him. If I was the giants I’d be looking to grab a top Wr or gain extra picks to expedite my rebuild over drafting a QB into a terrible situation
@@ahastar1141 I beg to differ. Daniel Jones on the giants is no different then Sam Darnold on the talented Vikings offense. They both badly need QBs but the difference is the Vikings already have a WR1 and a WR2. The giants need a WR1 and a WR2 so if they don’t take a QB it’s gonna be one of the big 3 WRs as they need a WR as bad as they need a new QB and with Sam Darnold on the Vikings and Daniel Jones on the Giants, now’s the chance that both teams have to draft a QB and not need to start them immediately
@@soda8736 i mean... either way, to Achos point... your not in draft position to get one of the top QBs, might as well trade back and stock up to make a move next offseason. Theres no urgency to contend this year. Even if Sanders isnt the answer, youll be in better position to draft who you want next year instead of just who you can get.
I’m a patriots fan and I hope we get Drake but if I was a Jets fan I would be doing anything and everything to get one of these young QB. I said before last year started Aaron will get hurt very early. Do you guys really think he’s going to last all season? he will not play next year. He will be officially done and then the Jets won’t have a good quarterback for many many years. Need to take a young QB this draft because there is no other good college quarterbacks coming for a long time. Forget about a receiver.
Big Cap about Daboll being fire. Joe and Daboll are not the reason Daniel Jones is still here. Eli Manning and John Mara are his biggest backers. At Pick 6 none of those Qbs should be starting and Giants will 100% injure/ruin that new QB if they rush into this. We should have traded barkley and lose out it dummies.
If I’m the Giants I draft Malik Nabers In the first and Tulane QB Michael Pratt in the 3rd round. But I think the Chargers are going to get Nabers at 5.
I still think the giants are trying to push the Vikings into trading up for JJ ahead of them with the chargers or cardinals so nabers or MHJ falls to them
eagle fan here, and yes Jones wont win a championship but.... he has no help( in the o line and wr and rb) and if you want to bring in a qb you should build everything else up so the new qb has the best chance to succeed. So Maybe get a qb after this year and work on gett talent on the team. Jone still might surprise you and beside they did just pay him so it not like if they do draft a qb he wont play this year, and you still have a wr rb and o line problem. This is what the Bear just did and look at where they sit now!
Joy: Breaking down a play be like, here’s my 22nd hairstyle this week. Just agree. My opinion is right, but I’ll talk in generalities because I am pretty. Rub my feet, that’s all you getting. 👣 Shady: I was an all pro, lemme talk up SB’s I was on sidelines for. Really made the Chiefs and Bucs rungame 😅 Acho: Time for a contrarian take. Let me repeat myself. 🗣️ James: Rodgers the goat. 1 SB don’t matter. He the best… 🐐 Dave: Really? You can’t let a chubby white boy keep his seat? 😭
I'm sorry, but the best thing I heard out of this whole signal is the New York Giants trading back. That is the best thing for the New York Giants. The team is the police trade back.Get more pics, maybe a player on top of it.That'd be the best case scenario
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Omg a new topic? Finally!
1:53 shady with the silent pause 🤣🤣
Everyone talked up T Lawrence, Trey Lance, J Fields, Z Wilson, and Mac Jones. Out of that whole QB class only T Lawrence is still a starter. He went #1 just like Caleb will go #1. Thereafter, the 49rs traded away the farm to get Trey Lance. That's basically what the Giants would be doing to move up. Sometimes doing nothing is the best option. Rank the players and take the best one who falls.
Trey Lance has the best situation to succeed but hasn’t, Mac got put in a bad situation with my Pats
Not in reality. They still hype Trevor Lawrence as if he were the best prospect ever.. Trey Lance was hyped but he really has a strong arm. He has good size and he can rush. With minimal opportunity, he was disregarded and even criticized.. They hyped Zach Wilson as if he were Aaron Rodgers.. Subsequently, Justin Fields fell in the draft after being deemed the 1st/2nd best quarterback prospect his entire tenure in college.. They undervalued him. I wasn't even aware he's a great rusher. It's already easy to argue that he's the 3rd best rusher at quarterback. Mac Jones was hyped coming into the draft and during his rookie year, they compared him to Tom Brady. He even made the pro bowl..
Daniel Jones is not good. They will not win with him. He's hindering New York. Whether they sign a quarterback later or not, they need a quarterback now.
@@sapchapo8351 Look in the mirror, Jonathan. You and your pops are about to start missing Belichick real quick.
I forgot about these Bums … Add Carson Wentz Josh Rosen Who ? Jamies Winston Jamarcus Russell Marcus Marriota the list just never ends🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
That was on the 49ers because as a Div 2 QB everyone knew they were taking a chance at trying to land Wentz 2.0 when everyone thought Wentz was legit. The rest of those guys just went to bad franchises or very bad situations. I agree though that they'll maybe get the 3rd QB off the board which is ok this year because after Caleb is pretty much a coin toss on if any of them will be a good starter in the NFL.
Acho finally right. Trying to draft a qb too high when they needed one is how they got Daniel jones 😂😂😂😂
It’s like come on yall. They really up there talking like the Giants have absolutely nobody at QB. The man still went and won a playoff game.
We might as well keep him and get a qb next year. Either get a weapon a 6 or trade back and get additional picks and get day 1 starters. We already have to pay him. We might as well get whatever use and build the team up so that way when we draft a qb next year, he will come into a very good position.
What they are failing to realize is that any QB they draft will still back up Daniel Jones for this year. Therefore, drafting a WR to help this year is the best route to win this year.
An there within lies the problem. Daniel Jones should be starting.
I can’t believe I’m sayin this but Acho’s point makes sense.
Nope, a rookie QB with not weapons to use is doomed for failure. Build up the oline and defense first.
Shady was a fumble. Machine , and score 1 touchdown in 7 playoff games , and never rushed for a hundred yards in a playoff game
But his logic is if u not good in the playoffs your not good
Thank you! Shady be talking about like hof rb l. Even Peyton hill is lead the league in rushing once. He’s a trash commentator his takes make no sense and are bias
I agree with Acho I’m taking Nabers then I’m moving up at the end of the first or beginning of the second and taking a QB
They’re saying they shouldn’t of taken DJ at 6 but we’re picking 6 again and there won’t be a better QB to draft at 6. It’s easy to say draft a QB but whooooo!?!?! He said Draft MPJ at 6 when he’s projected to go in the second round 🫤🫤🫤 what are they really talking about 🤷🏾♂️
We need to wr at 6 then try to get Penix at the end of the 1st or early 2nd
Is it obvious to anyone else Shady and Joy have done that thang
Giants need to get Penix!!!
Bo Nix Better Than Drake Maye
Shady and Joy never disagree. They smashing
Lol I always thought that! 😂😂
nah she just really looks up to him
This is gonna be a fun rewatch in January.
Yes, reaching for a QB with the 6th pick just for the sake of a QB is a great idea. Last time we did that we ended up with... you guessed it, Daniel Jones.
I don’t know why no one has mentioned this on any sports shows.
The only QB taken before Daniel was Kyler @ #1. That was a weak, very weak QB draft. This draft is not. Either pick a qb @ 6th or trade down and get more picks to build the team and draft a qb next year. Definitely do not burn picks to trade up.
The hate they have for Daniel Jones is disgusting man.
Dude THANK YOU and not just them but ESPN as a whole. The hate this kid has been dealt since day 1 is ridiculous. I just wanted a whole story of a comment about it lol. How can u TRULEY evaluate a QB that's NVR HAD even an Avg O line or weapons to help him . NOT TO MENTION NYG BEING at the tops past few years in dropped passes. I TRULEY hope he comes back healthy and has a chance to show himself this season. We made ALOt of improvement to the O line in free agency already then if get Nabers to pair up with Hyatt, Robinson MAN TALK ABOUT SPEED.
But they love Justin Feilds, at least Jones has shown he can put together a winning season and win a playoff game with no weapons, , what has Feilds done except put up running stats.
It’s wild to me.
Bro says absolutely nothing, just goes out there and plays, doesn’t make excuses.
But he’s always catching strays.
Dj has never had a good o line ! He's probably has the best one now since he's been in the nfl ! We need a # 1WR ! We can get a qb next year !
He's never had anything really unless you consider Saquan, get him some weapons and see.
Acho is right. Period.
The pause game is always fun😂😂😂
Drafting a QB when you have other major issues, is simply coaches buying themselves more time and pandering to the fan bases with a shiny new toy thinking a QB is going to solve everything. It doesn't . Drafting a QB to save your job when you have so many other issues buys you 2 seasons, this year and next year to get your rebuild done. If I am the giants I am hoping the Vikings trade up to 4 or 5 and grab a QB so nabers or MHJ drop to me or I am trading back with the Vikings for their 2 firsts, grabbing the best WR available or penix/ nix at 11 then at 23 trying to get a WR at 23 or a lineman.
honestly giants should look at the possibility of trading back if a team like denver or vegas offers something and take a OT. No matter what position they take on offense they will not be set up for success if they run out the same oline as last year. Take a receiver at the start of the 2nd and let jones play out this year then explore your options next year with a better set up for whatever qb comes in after him.
I mostly agree with you, the only way I think they should take a QB is if Dabol is absolutely in love with 1 of the guys they can get this year but if they plan to play him and let the young guy get CTE behind that line next year there's no point in that either.
I really think they should be trading with the Vikings to get 11 and 23. They could maybe get Nix at 11 then OT at 23 or CB at 23
@@ahastar1141 I think the only qb they should consider is pennix unless they are trading up. Nix just doesn't look like he has that big of a ceiling to me and more likely than not will put us in the same situation we are now 4 years down the line. Pennix at least looks to have the potential to be elite if he stays healthy and can learn to be more comfortable inside the numbers near the box.
Ok , we take a qb…he still has the same team Daniel jones has….we gotta build up our team
You can assemble the avengers around jones and he’ll still lose stop coping
Ask the jets how building the team is working for them they got every position besides a qb
@@ryanMcknight27 they finished 7-9 and beat the eagles with no qb what are you talking about?
Joy we took a 2nd round value QB at 6 last time- that is a horrible idea
Joy don't know what she be talking about her mentor is shady , I they want to do is come on the show and talk about Dak , Dak stay in both of there heads all year around especially joy since Dak turns her advances down
No you took a 3-5th round qb at 6 last time lol
@@Jslowbro lol penix was 20x the player daniel was in college.... daniel jones shouldve been a backup his whole career maybe 3rd string
@ahmedegal6808 ....... that's not what I was referring to genius. Daniel Jones was a 3rd to 5th round graded qb. Gettleman pulled a move only he can do and picked him 6th. Dj is what most of us knew he was. He might do better with a better team, but I honestly doubt it. Penix? Dude been a baller and I'm glad he came back from the rough days at Indiana the way he did. Better injury history and he's going higher
he was graded 3rd round lol by PFF.
He can be a great backup quarterback...Jones can still give you at least 5 win games per season
Why isn’t JJ McCarthy #1 Pick he won a National Championship in college 😱🤦🏻♂️
I love how Daniel Jones and Mac Jones have both made the playoffs with no weapons , but Feilds was so great to the media and everything wasn't his fault.
EXACTLY JOY!! "Who's throwing to him?"
I’ll trade back into the first round to get Penix. Gotta get a WR 1 first
Yes Daniel Jones is not the answer but Giants need a LOT OF THINGS. They should move back up and get some more draft capitals to fill up the roaster. They need OLine, WR, LB, Safety (they lost McKinney), RB.
Drafting another QB is not gonna help the situation.
Can't wait for Daniel Jones to shut the haters up. Eli got the same disrespect before he won 2 Superbowl MVPs. I believe in DJ
Pick the best player at #6. There’s no game changer qb at 6. Don’t waste the pick. Everyone knows qb is the most important position but you’re not just gonna throw darts every year. Giants should trade back if they get a good offer and load up on talent as much as possible
Get your WR1 in rd #1 and get Joe Milton later on. If Josh Allen had so many issues in his 1st 2yrs in the league but had success with Daboll, then I believe Joe Milton can have success with Daboll too. He's the same size as Josh and has a cannon like him too.
If the Giants can't get MHJ, they better trade back and take the best DB. The defensive front is solid, get some help on the back end. Use the 2nd and 3rd to draft offense and see if you get someone solid and start building the offense next off season along side Hyatt and Robinson. No one player in the draft can help that offense. but if they can create a top 5 defense... they may have a shot in the division.
I actually think a trade they could make is with the Vikings for their 11th and 23rd. Still gives them a chance at a QB or WR at 11 then maybe a QB at 23 if they didnt grab one or trade that pick for extra picks in the 2nd to grab lineman and or CBs.
@@ahastar1141I’m taking Nabers then trading up later for a QB if I’m them
@@ahastar1141this a deep CB draft they can get a good 1 in the second or 3rd
I’m with acho u gone put injury prone penix behind that line and that bad wr room
If you draft a QB you are in theory starting your " super bowl window" as teams with cheap rookie QBs are able to pay stars around them to hopefully get to the super bowl before the rookie QB has to get his bag. Are you telling me that if the Giants take a QB right now, they'll have enough pieces to hit their super bowl window in 4 years assuming this year is kind of a wash? Not to mention picking an older rookie knowing its gonna be a few years before the team is even gonna be right for a rookie to have a chance? Foolishness. If they grab a guy it has to be someone young like JJ or Maye
I'm just not impressed with the qb class and don't think they're worth trading up for.
Let's not compare anybody to Larry Fitzgerald
Based on how Daniel Jones' contract is setup it would be wise to suffer with him in 2024 and then cut him to save cap space in 2025. If the Giants want a QB then they should pick one in the later rounds but the earlier picks need to be used to address other issues on the roster.
Acho's defense of his nonsense take was so bad that Joy laughed uncontrollably. That man said "he threw for 15 touchdowns..." while also claiming that he's not that bad.
James Jones be sonning Acho 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Odd that Acho is finally right about a topic and everyone is against him….
The Giants don't need to get a QB at no.6! Jones is not a terrible QB. I'm with Acho, with the exception of trading down.
Cold truth
I don't see why they wouldn't
If you dump Danny Dimes for Penix or any other QB, you better fix that O-Line so he can survive. Jones isn't slow and he spent a lot of time on the ground.
Why didn't they keep Cambell or get another free agent WR, they can easily get a WR in the 3rd round, and they need an RB, OT, OG C and TE. They didn't think it through.
Paris played horrifically dropped to bottom of depth chart at mid season and was NVR seen again. Not saying it was HIS fault but with the online so bad his routes were like 4 yards long lol. Just didn't fit. Now in Philly he'll probably play great but is what is😞
Joys take is awful per usual. The Giants need to build a roster before taking another uncertain QB😅.
Giants needed to overpay for Lamar Jackson while they had the opportunity to.
James Jones has the best takes on the show
Don’t go for it at 6 overall. Grab a star WR and gradually improve on your qb situation overtime. Remember, the chiefs had Hill and Kelce before Mahomes came to town.
I don’t care how you do it but the Giants have options. They could keep squeezing everything they can get out of Daniel Jones, make him run the ball like his life depends on it.
But honestly, I personally would move on from him and try to find a qb with higher upside, without wasting prime draft capital. You could find a qb in free agency or trade for a mid-level starter or backup qb (remember Brock Purdy was a backup and he was almost a free agent too).
Also, there are some nice young backup QBs in the league right now that Daboll can develop until you have a better option. Tyson Bagent comes to mind.
And if you don’t want to take a chance on young guy, grab a veteran backup qb.
DO NOT waste a draft pick on Bo Nix when you could have MHJ or Nabers (and this is coming from someone who actually likes Bo Nix).
It's crazy because none of them do not watch New York Giants football. Daniel Jones came into the league with no wide receivers and no offensive line. Every good quarterback in the NFL today has an average line and a wide receiver. Joe Schoen brought in offensive lineman through free agency and now he drafted the best wide receiver. All I can say is watch Daniel Jones cook in 2024. He has Malik, WanDale, Hyatt, Slayton and Darren Waller to throw to with a descent running back in Singletary. This offense will be a force to reckon with in 2024. Go Big Blue
Joy and all these looks is a plus for the show
Fitz did have Kurt Warner for a couple years and Carson palmer one a hall of famer snd the other was pretty good
The giants don't have the assets to trade up. Thats what acho is saying. So you gotta hope the one you want falls. But at some point it's too high for the 5best qbs. And they don't have the assets to give up as much as the other teams that also need qbs.
If they don't draft a QB in the draft, it's going to be a OC something like that Dave is right
Joe Burrow is the most accurate passer in NFL history so far. And I. 2019 at LSU he had a completion percentage of 76.6%.
Daniel Jones so bad he should go to the coach and say I need to sit down😂
Yeah only bad QBs break multiple records their rookie year, throw 24 TDs, and run in 5. Only bad QBs end up 6th overall QB with no weapons which was the season before last. You dont know what youre talking about. No QB will look good behind the worst OL in the league, with WRs that constantly tip the ball, or drop passes.
@@pinnacleproductions6275 keep sleepin, Danny Dimes is awful and you know it
@@pinnacleproductions6275 Cherry pick stats all you want. The tape says DJ is a back-up QB.
If Slayton had competent QB play all year he would have been a 1000 yds receiver. He averages over 14 yds per catch and has had over 700 yds per season the last two years when he was the second and third option behind Saquan and Jones running the ball every other play. And Acho needs to do his homework before he comes on TV, Larry Fitzgerald had Kurt Warner and Carson Palmer throwing to him 10 out of the 16 years that he was there. Giants need to get a QB period. They have already addressed the O-Line through free agency and coaching, they have good young receiving core, and a good defense. They can add another receiver and DB in the later rounds. They had Odell which was a top receiver at the time, and they had one playoff appearance. He was entertaining but the Giants didn't win a lot.
Zach Wilson catching strays. LoL
Acho shouldnt be saying anything on JJ. Acho isn't someone I trust evaluating talent in the transfer to the league as he couldn't even make it far himself
Joy rockin' that Eagle Green!!!
Shady really dislikes Danny Dimes 😄
If the Giants trade up they won't have picks to build around that QB and build the rest of their roster. Can't force a QB pick just for the sake of it and that's what happened with Gettleman in that same spot drafting DJ at 6. They'll have to move up and the capital they'd have to give with pretty much stop them from improving the rest of their team. I can't imagine JS going to ownership after paying DJ last year to ask if they can mortgage the farm to move up and get another QB and already have a crowded QB room with 4 QBs. Mara and Tisch would have to be looking at these guys crazy like... "We signed off on signing DJ and now you want us to be ok with mortgaging the farm for another QB?" Not only does that sends a bad message and create a lot of unnecessary drama, this would be a "we f***** up" moment. That doesn't even include the other holes on this team that they have. You can't mortgage the farm and expect to build out your roster, plus he's not even going to start day 1 anyway if DJ is healthy.
I just don't see the Giants mortgaging the farm to try and outbid the Vikings for a QB who have more assets to give.
🙏🏾 Penix
If nothing else, they need to go oline. Their line is terrible. A WR is not going to help as much as the best tackle in this draft would.
Acho completely right no need to reach for a qb at 6 go get an elite receiver and build your roster up james joy and shady trippin man
How about draft the young man some receivers you just paid him
Thank you
Giants should wait for Sanders
Giants are picking Nabers and then trading down in the second to get Penix
I say we wait and get Spencer
Good evening young people, y'all got it going again. I said get a good quarterback good wide receiver. Take it from there. Get another quarterback let them fight it out. Whoever's the best one go from there and if the first quarterback don't want to be the backup by out his contract, let him go what's happening Joy Taylor, you're looking beautiful as ever. Smart as ever y'all be cracking me up with shady and Jones. Y'all the wild bunch free content. Keep it up. This is the senior citizen. Always watching y'all. Oh well. Got to got to go to sleep. Peace, love and hair grease😊
And of course Shady would take Dexy looking forward to the draft as code for him wanting a new QB roll 🙄
Shady needs to grow up with that childish “pause” bs
Penix to me is going to be the steal of the draft
Josh Allen is 250 don’t need 4.4 speed. Go bills
No qb has ever won a Super Bowl ran under 4.5.
No
Petix is the best qb low key
They need to allow someone else in the main seat other than Acho
Giants haven’t had a WR1 since Odell. So JJ McCarthy better pray he doesn’t end up in New York, cause nobody’s gonna help them there. At least Jones has Saquan
DJ played 60 games and only 38 were with Saquon
Watching the giants possible pass on someone like nabers or MHJ to pick up another QB would be wild
@@ahastar1141 there are 7 teams that need a first round QB. Those teams being the Bears, Commanders, Patriots, Giants, Vikings, Broncos, and Raiders. Out of all of those teams the Giants-Broncos-Patriots are the only ones who don’t have a WR1
@@twindragon5668 I am not sure I agree with you there. Similar to the Vikings the giants would be looking for a guy to sit a year behind a guy to be developed.
While the giants and Vikings need a QB of the future and have a stand in for this season, they differ in that MN really just needs a franchise QB. Their offense is set in that they have the receivers, the online and the coach, but just need their guy. The giants need so much that it kinda reminds me of Carolina drafting young with no one around him. If I was the giants I’d be looking to grab a top Wr or gain extra picks to expedite my rebuild over drafting a QB into a terrible situation
@@ahastar1141 I beg to differ. Daniel Jones on the giants is no different then Sam Darnold on the talented Vikings offense. They both badly need QBs but the difference is the Vikings already have a WR1 and a WR2. The giants need a WR1 and a WR2 so if they don’t take a QB it’s gonna be one of the big 3 WRs as they need a WR as bad as they need a new QB and with Sam Darnold on the Vikings and Daniel Jones on the Giants, now’s the chance that both teams have to draft a QB and not need to start them immediately
Penix cannot run designed runs in the NFL, he DEFINITELY is not built like that 😂
You out your mind that man Dade City Raised Watch Him
How can you say he can’t run designed runs in the NFL when he has played in the NFL. You don’t know what he can do in the NFL so Relax buddy.
Who cares about designed runs, just play qb
Trade back... pick up a 1st next year, package that with your first next year for Shaduer Sanders
Let's see how Shedure plays this year.
@@soda8736 i mean... either way, to Achos point... your not in draft position to get one of the top QBs, might as well trade back and stock up to make a move next offseason. Theres no urgency to contend this year. Even if Sanders isnt the answer, youll be in better position to draft who you want next year instead of just who you can get.
These idiots don't know anything about the Giants.
Yo James is hilarious I like dude🎉🎉😂😂
If I was Penix I would let it be known I’m not playing for the Giants. NO O LINE!
Putting a guy with injuries behind an oline that bad is a great way to waste a pick
@@ahastar1141exactly makes no sense
Fitz had Kurt Warner ?!?
I’m a patriots fan and I hope we get Drake but if I was a Jets fan I would be doing anything and everything to get one of these young QB. I said before last year started Aaron will get hurt very early. Do you guys really think he’s going to last all season? he will not play next year. He will be officially done and then the Jets won’t have a good quarterback for many many years. Need to take a young QB this draft because there is no other good college quarterbacks coming for a long time. Forget about a receiver.
Giants at 6 may not get neither harrison or nabers (Cards and Chargers are 4 - 5) both are likely to target WR
Big Cap about Daboll being fire. Joe and Daboll are not the reason Daniel Jones is still here. Eli Manning and John Mara are his biggest backers. At Pick 6 none of those Qbs should be starting and Giants will 100% injure/ruin that new QB if they rush into this.
We should have traded barkley and lose out it dummies.
If I’m the Giants I draft Malik Nabers In the first and Tulane QB Michael Pratt in the 3rd round. But I think the Chargers are going to get Nabers at 5.
I still think the giants are trying to push the Vikings into trading up for JJ ahead of them with the chargers or cardinals so nabers or MHJ falls to them
No quarterbacks at 6
Yes shady the world stops whenever the Eagles , Cowboys and Giants aren’t winning 😂😂😂😂😂
Arizona laughing while everyone fights over QBs. Best player in the draft is falling to 4.
eagle fan here, and yes Jones wont win a championship but.... he has no help( in the o line and wr and rb) and if you want to bring in a qb you should build everything else up so the new qb has the best chance to succeed. So Maybe get a qb after this year and work on gett talent on the team. Jone still might surprise you and beside they did just pay him so it not like if they do draft a qb he wont play this year, and you still have a wr rb and o line problem. This is what the Bear just did and look at where they sit now!
how bout getting an o line too qb can’t do anything runnin for they life and no true receivers
Lmfao if you make Penix run that much, he won't last over his rookie contract.
When is ACHO getting fired 😂😂
Nah they have so many holes they need to fill that qb shouldn’t even be drafted this year
Hold up he said penix ran a 4.46?
Joy: Breaking down a play be like, here’s my 22nd hairstyle this week. Just agree. My opinion is right, but I’ll talk in generalities because I am pretty. Rub my feet, that’s all you getting. 👣
Shady: I was an all pro, lemme talk up SB’s I was on sidelines for. Really made the Chiefs and Bucs rungame 😅
Acho: Time for a contrarian take. Let me repeat myself. 🗣️
James: Rodgers the goat. 1 SB don’t matter. He the best… 🐐
Dave: Really? You can’t let a chubby white boy keep his seat? 😭
LMAOO
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I'm sorry, but the best thing I heard out of this whole signal is the New York Giants trading back. That is the best thing for the New York Giants. The team is the police trade back.Get more pics, maybe a player on top of it.That'd be the best case scenario
Same people consider hurts a good qb