The End Of V Premium
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- With the reveal of the main BCS formats this competitive Vanguard season, it has become clear the V Premium will no longer be a main competitive Words format anymore, and instead relegated to a side event.
Let's look back on why V Premium ended up this way, and why it suffered an even worse fate in Japan.
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RIP V-Premium. This is the format I started with at the tail end of the era back in 2020 (yes the dark times), but through this format I became introduced to the incredible game of Vanguard. Farewell V, see you in the side events
Entered when shinemon started, if I joined earlier I would've been able to pick up vilest deletor and miyaji for naoki and koji TD 😂
I entered just before the end of g so I had a few found memories with v. One of them is my friend rage quiting because of how "rng" it became 😂
maaaaaaaaaaaaaan ive been here since link joker was introduced, i couldnt keep up with the costs over the decade, im such a vanguard boomer i havent kept up since overdress season 2
My dream product was always a premium/V set where the cards both worked as individual V deck support units and easily supplemented into their respective premium builds, like say Bigbelly or Ahsha. Shame that Bushiroad was so adamant about ending V that they never even attempted to explore that design space.
For me, the most memorable part of V, was the beginning. I started near end of G and was excited to start a card game from scratch for first time and I was able to play so much once released despite just first set.
My favourite unit of all time debuted in V-Series, Arch Aider, Malkuth-Melekh. Its what introduced me to my favourite clan, Angel Feather, and to this day nothing even comes close
V premium will never die, so long as the old guard perseveres it. We can still do community tournaments through remote fights. We now have a format that the community can regulate outside of Bushiroad. I can see it now, community ban and restriction lists, maybe even community erratas. We could even incorporate ride decks im those community tournament.
At least it still exists as a side event, it's something.
Tell that to the people who invested tons of money and time on the format
Thanks to V and Zero helping me through during pandemic RIP to both of them 😢😢😢
I loved V series so much. It was a clean slate for me and it had a lot of cool concepts and deck building was really fun early on. Most of my stuff is V Series, my Overdress stuff is really far behind. But I did recently get ahold of one of the Secret Campaign Phantom Blaster Dragons into my collection, so I have something to remember it by
V was fun and really lived up to the original vision of Cardfight Vanguard itself until they introduced the II Markers... i mean, i main Narukami, specifically Thunder Break and Vanquisher, and even i can't be mad when they banned Fullbronto cause holy shit, the bullying is real, and it turned the game from "CARD-FIGHT" to "CARD-ONE-SIDED-BEATDOWN" lol
I feel that the biggest problem that V-Premium faced was that the new D format cards were unusable in V-Premium decks. The D cards however could be used in Premium decks, which is all well and good, but outside of the clan collections V-Premium had no new releases. And why would Bushiroad allocate resources towards an older version of their game while trying to further production on the newest version? From a business perspective it makes sense, but I will certainly miss having an official format with no OT.
you mean the draw trigger sentinels that has D in their codes cannot be used in v prem decks?
@@neilbryanbucsit197 anything with signature V icon at the bottom left is usable in V-prem regardless of product code. i belive op meant that stuff like teithfall, cairbre, cycles are not usable in V-prem
Let's be honest, they fucked up V the second they made secondary Imaginary Gifts and allowed for one gift to draw 1. Idk if they made secondary Gifts before set 1 or after, but it very clearly was a mistake in the long run. It even negatively effected Premium.
I'm am happy that V was a thing tho, despite my problems with it. It's was the testing grounds for what D standard is now. The game design now wouldn't be as good without the experimentation in V.
Yeah this comment sums up exactly how I feel about V as well
V for me was solid until they started allowing accel 2 to be spawned multiple times in the same turn.
They really should have just made it so all gifts can be used by all clans, to allow counterplay in gift choosing, with clans specializing in one gift but being able to lean into others.
I do think though V was always going to be a format with an expiration date on it, due to the clan issue being something Bushiroad needed to resolve for rotating support. I want to believe they made the format as a drawing board to see what works and what doesn't in the game for experimenting while D was cooking in the background. In hindsight, rebooting the anime to take after the manga like that while releasing redone decks felt like something they wouldn't be able to keep up forever, even when they started making new content with Shinemon to have something new for the franchise.
I really enjoyed V honestly. I remember I actually didn't like Standard very much when it came out. Even now, I still think V card design made decks feel different from one another compared to Standard. V made decks actually feel like they had their own identity. With Standard, a nation's gimmick only serves as a different method to achieve the same end goal most other decks have. You always have a restander/restand enabler RG. You always have a draw 1 RG. And if not a restander RG, your VG either restands itself or restands an RG. V was by no means perfect, but it still did a decent number of things right.
In Thailand, D-series anime first season has just started, and about V cards, players seem to move to D already over half of the population.
Oh that's very interesting! I guess the Thai players do know that this is the main format in the rest of the world too though
@@DifferentFight I would say the reason is because in Thailand we have both Japan cards and Thai cards at the same time. Japan card community is huge, and we play mostly D-standard, even larger than Yu-gi-oh at this point. (a lot of players left during V, myself included).
So when the Thai card reached D, the player already knew what to expect and see how popular D is, the abandonment of V is pretty seamless.
As much as people dislike V premium, with it dying premium is gonna become very stale with no new real support
And it’s gonna follow the same fate as well.
TBF, if you still play Premium in 2024, you kind of deserve what you get. That format is, and pretty much always has been, completely terrible. The sorts of people who like Premium are either sweaty tryhard masochists who play the most cancerous decks imaginable or play exclusively kitchen table jank like Mkohl40 and therefore self-police.
@@HunterStiles651 literal facts.
@@HunterStiles651 🤷♂️ damn who hurt u
Can't that's kind of a pathetic outlook on it but u do you
@@mrryujin1624 "That's kind of a pathetic outlook on it"
Spoken like a man who knows the person he's talking to can't punch him in the face.
i always appreciated v premium existing since it was the closest thing to playing traditional vanguard without having massive changes like overdress or overly complicated like premium ..tbh i feel super disconnected from vanguard now
Man i was just thinking about my V scharhrot deck and how i wanted to take it out of storage.
I feel that... time to pack up my boi Spectral Duke....
I guess I will pack up my Deletors.
I said this from the very moment the formats were announced, can probably find it on a video here somewhere: there's just not enough people who will go "I really want to stick with the format of Vanguard when it seemed like it was about to die any minute".
Now we need Vanguard V Zero
Goddammit bushiroad give me back zero
@@masterace9543Those were the good old days for me. Got me through some tough times.
glad to see I'm not the only one missing Zero
YESSSSS THIS WAS WHAT I TALKED ABOUT WITH SOME CUMMUNITIES BEFORE ZERO CLOSED IT SHOULD HAVE MAKE V INSTEAD OR MAKE A NEW VANGUARD V FORMAT GAME ACCESABLE AND FREE IN PHONES
I loved playing zero, but as a poor gamer, it just became really hard to build any new decks cause they split the tickets between each sets
I honestly believe that V series could've lasted longer if they didn't try to rely so heavily on nostalgia; made a fresh new series with all/mostly new characters and placed them somewhere else like Europe, Australia, US, South America or Canada; treated the clans more fairly with pack distributions of 2+2+1/2+1+1; and squeezed out some clans and introduced some new ones for a bit.
@@bajanyaoikaizer6902 bushiroad introduced the g era bosses into v series but never introduced the g era characters into v series anime continuity except for crono in the last episode of v series anime which as a anime watcher really annoyed me
@@nadimwallani1713it's pretty obvious now that V Series is just a beta-testing for the D series, they basically skipped the entire Asia Circuit arc (arguably the best arc in the OG anime), made the Deletor arc a half-assed prologue to the Brandt arc (that on itself is also a half-assed product), and if course, skipping the G arc entirely even though the Shinnemon series CLEARLY set up for the G storyline with child Ryuzu as the main antagonist... it's sad cause i am a big fan of the original Vanguard manga
There goes my Max Rarity Leopald Reverse deck price.
At the end of V and the start of D, I had a theory that V was just stalling to prepare for D to come out. I loved V though cuz it was the format I started in. Good memories RIP V
It's... not a theory, they literally created that bizarre "Vanguard IF" just to prolonged the V format just a bit longer.
That's unfortunate. I was really hoping for one more V-Clan Collection since I figured this would finally be the time that we'd see Brawlers get their chance to be the Narukami rep since they'd probably avoid printing more Eradicator/Vanquisher cards given the Premium implications.
Same I was expecting Metalborg support after grade 1 and lion promo
Now that v Premium is over, would be nice to get a game with the complete V Premium card sets
Spike Bros V was still a great time for me. Also probably the best mechanics to flavor when Deadheat Bullspike came out to pass force markers like a football
Facts, spikes were fun to play....then when nova came out, it was over, gaining both markers to literally bully your opponent
Yeah V Spikes Bros was peak. They honestly should make a deck with similar gameplay and make them the rivals to the Diabolos or something.
I never really liked the meta decks in V but when you went to tier 2 or tier 3 decks there was a lot of fun to be had in a lot of formats so it's a bit bittersweet to see the format go for that purpose, but mainly sad to see it go because let's be honest, standard is not premium support, outside of very niche cards, basically nothing goes into the format, where every V set, or every clan collection would spice up the format, at least a little bit, so it's sad to see it be officially shelved for that reason.
adding energy to premium opens the door so much in deck building. would love to see it so we can maybe build around DZ bosses
Card design of the later sets aside, V Premium was peak game design for Vanguard. I will really miss it, or at least, what it used to be.
My best memory with V is this- it introduced me to two absolutely amazing friends of mine who I don't know where I would be without them. I may not really play V that often anymore as I turned my musketeer deck into a premium format one I still have 1 V deck in Nebula Lord Dragon
Making lifetime friends is by far the best part of the hobby, glad to hear your story!
I started playing VG when Glendios was released in V. V was the first format I entered. Little did I know they would never rls any other sets after that. Unlucky
I'm sad about Minerva not in V😢😢
Feel too sad for no more v series tournament
1st time getting the top at V series tournament in Malaysia
At least you have a fond memory to look back on 🥲
@@masterace9543 Ya but no more event on v series
I technically started with V . Primary Melody was my first set . My buddy already liked Vanguard and loved the Colorful Pastorale anime, so I said I'd open the set too , but he'd essentially tell me what to buy for my deck . Waifu bait (mermaid idols) worked. Had a crappy Melody deck mainly using Serena and Fina since we purposely made my deck different (read worse), but it did eventually lead us finding 2 more players at a small convention . Even with our currently still small group, I've come to love the game and have between at least 20-30 decks with all formats. Lots of Lyrical /Bermuda Decks. I'm planning to build V-duo . I've never played in tournaments beyond standard ones, which has only been recently, since being dropped at bigger events really doesn't affect me much
V helped me really get back into vanguard, and despite the horrible powercreep I'll still remember the good ol days of me having no money and trying to pass buy with a bunch of rares, commons, and a single Cocytus to fight with. Plus, the format's given me some of the most memorable moments and fun decks I've ever had the pleasure of playing. You will be missed, V, may you finally rest in peace
I actually enjoy V more than premium, mainly because my small group doesn't play premium at all. I still have the cards to play premium. It was a fun time overall despite the crazy power creep and the decks aren't completely useless, just have to add some og goodies/ d stuff and I have a premium deck ready for play.
Tbh as someone just getting into the game still I wanna try out V Premium I dont think ill be able to though -;
Pick up a cheap deck and join one of the side events, they’ll be going on until next March!
Was it really too much to ask for a sendoff set with Gyze and the Zeroths?
talking about the ending of v-premium, even us in Italy have experencied the death of the italian format as of today, so i guess we hope a proper reintroduction of vanguard here with standard and premium, mostly because the english cards are difficult to get here
Man I need to buy more of the Stride cards asap
V Existing is what got me to be able get a bunch of my friends to start playing vanguard, because of it, restarting In a new era and releasing new cards
V was definitely fun towards the end, but man were those first 2.5 years rough. It just feels like the main draw is no OTs, and 1 CB cranks like 100k power in terms of value at times. Its definitely a fun break in between P and D when my friends and I just wanted a pallet cleanser. But for the sake of premium in JP, from my understanding Japan usually just moves on as new things come out. Very rarely are old things supported or even looked at, because its old things that companies would have to invest man power and dev time into them, whereas they could just be allocating resources to the new thing. But I just feel like thats really crappy to your legacy players. Personally I've been playing vanguard since 2012 and I would like for my cards to remain playable and supported from time to time. Unless they unify the game to just premium again, I think its ridiculous to expect a bunch of product releases for premium when OD is the primary format. However I would like a reprint set and a supplementary set every year to keep the game fresh (and a ban list would also be nice, instead of playing the same format for a year).
I remeber when V first released. It was my introduction to vanguard, and what really sold me was ren suzugamori and shadow paladins. Made me fall in love with vanguard . It was fun at the beginning but slowly card design and balance was a turn off for me till overdress
Rip V. I loved so many of the cards that came out
When Luard got released for V Premium and being able to spam out like 10 force markers in one circle that was a good time. Dragonic Overlord The X being able to win when going first, awesome times.
V-Premium was the first format that I really started playing Vanguard playing Pale Moon Beast Tamer and found my favorite clan Bermuda Triangle a little before V playing Duo Bermuda. I really like the format and sad it's dying/dead 😢
Pulling svr mordred was awesome to in the v series
One thing I would've liked to see more of is Clan Collections, even if they didn't sell super well in the end.
It was a neat way to give "modern" support to decks in Premium, even if they didn't work out in V-Premium (often due to lack of cards, see Metalborg, Seal Dragon, Enigman, etc). Though I also very much did not like when they essentially scrapped old gimmicks in their V remakes (see V Tirua only working with bouncing, not botdecking, or Raindear being a highlander cards instead of having her g3 gimmick)
Without those around, all those old archetypes are effectively left to rot unless they just happen to get an Encounter in Standard, and nowadays that only even works if the relevant support cards don't even cost Energy to use (Prem. Coral for example would probably run 1 of the Encounter Coral G3 for going first, but it just can't use it because there's no Energy).
I think it's a shame seeing beloved decks effectively stagnate forever, and Clan Collections were a great way to alleviate that, so I hope we'll get *something*, *anything* to replace them in the future.
I loved clan collections too, just wish they weren’t so hit or miss with how good the supports are for certain clans
@DifferentFight That part. How Ethics Buster Extreme was handled hurt my feelings.
V format had imaginary gifts, those were awesome
I started the game with Ezel so I missed out on playing the OG Royals like Alfred and Gancelot but still loved them because of the anime. I got somewhat of a chance with Liberator, but the start of V Era was such a hype period of my life simply due to how much I liked the old characters and units. Reflecting on it later down the line, V was all kind of messed up from the power levels to the markers etc etc, but I enjoyed it for what it was, a nostalgia trip and I was happy to go through it (once). Saying that of course as mentioned, D Series even though has its own problems (OT), it feels way better overall as a game and has a lot more staying power for growth and expansion. Not to mention the anime hits a lot harder too which really helps the brand.
Premium should just introduce the ride deck
I personally like the v series that was the vanguard series that got me into vanguard
Ive been out of vanguard for a while but dang im sad that v premium is ending well im gonna miss playing uranus.
Rip to the Unreleased card for v that we wished, may you be remembered for your playstyle in the og days "INSERTS BAKA MITAI"
Vanguard V was the best format ever created it was balanced, fun and had a healthy meta rest in piece you beautiful format I will still be playing you with my friends
I started vanguard with the original g era then went back to the older cards because of the anime. Then life happened and I lost interest in vanguard for a while but then the v-standard at the time brought me back to this game and while I don’t have any local card shops near me I still really appreciate the v format for brining me back to this great game so this will be very missed as is vanguard zero
8:19 I wish they did a Premium OverDress Collection; it would be the perfect chance to bring the energy market to premium and support standard decks so they are more playable.
They should release premium support cards that are playable in v. Keep both formats going with new support yearly would’ve be nice.
V Premium has technically been dead for a couple years. Once they stopped releasing support for it, it was dead. I will surely miss it though because it was still fun and competitive and was my favorite format.
I feel bad for V dying. I qualified for V Worlds last year, but I wasn't able to go, now I will never get a chance to ever play V in Worlds ever again haha
Amazing that most V-premium players also wanted to play standard and premium. Meaning that the format itself and the way they made it as a compensatory excuse for rebooting again, is yet again, another bad decision made by Bushiroad.
Also, the fact that they didn't release any material for one year,proves to us that they wanted to end the format and keep only standard vs Premium.
To me, it is just another evidence that this game is not for me. And that i made the right decision to sell out this garbage company's game.
Wait... You are suggesting that the energy generator is put on P and remove the OT from P? :O
a moment of silence for all the decks I was interested in when I got into the game. Aka most of the budget BT decks that got no direct support after twinkle melody. V was how I got into the game following Vanguard Zero during the pandemic, so it has a place in my heart, but I am having a lot of fun for the most part in standard! I don't think I could ever look back!
A very noisy player actually got my vanguard locals to switch to V premium entirely from standard last year. They showed up for about 2 weeks of that and then never again. Shortly after, shop started alternating weeks but could never get enough people for V premium so like 3 months later it was back to normal every week. This guy hasn’t been back once since lol
I'll be missing playing with my Blademaster Souen deck😢....my very first deck of the V format
I wish that they finish chronojet deck but I love v premium
As an OG Spike and Great Nature player, V leave a really bad taste in my mouth, i have so much fun with those clan back in G being a really fun, technical, and rewarding clan to master. Then V happen , they retcon em from scratch and give us whatever the hell is that force passing and Gacha Nature. I feel like im forcing myself to play the game.
Im still gonna continue fixing my chronojet deck for premium
(doing Kratos Impression): BUSHIROAD! Give me a Cowboy Dragon Deck! and my Wallet is yours!
2018 through 2020 were really the darkest times for me as almost all players here stopped playing immediately on the reboot announcement, including trying to sell all their cards even. Legit a self fulfilled catastrophe by ourselves. It (very) slowly recovered and I did have some moments of fun with V, Zanbaku and Luard vs Angerblader (yes, I loved this). But it is hard to think positively when gifts have probably made it really hard to design for premium forever lol.
I think premium is in a more than ok spot right now but I also agree that banning OT and adding energy would immediately rejuvenate the format.
nooooo rip v format and my fav card lostlegend , gone but not forgotten .
Still the best format, with most unfair treatment by players.
I really miss getting stuff for my clans.
I REALLY loved the V clan collections. It felt like they fixed all the problems that V had (besides Steam Maidens hehe). The new decks that came from the V clan collections were creative, fun, and some powerful enough to keep up with the end of V level of power creep.
I do wish JP would do more Premium tournaments. The way I see it is that we don’t get much Premium product because it doesn’t sell well in JP. It doesn’t sell well in JP because the format isn’t popular. The format isn’t popular because they don’t have enough tournament support for it. So in theory, doing more tournaments for it would fix all that.
Either that, or give the global side exclusive premium product.
V holds a special in my heart cause it acted as a weird proxy nostalgia cause I was pretty much a TD Andy up till V cause of no income, then when V happened I had income so I could play the cards I wanted to play back in the day that I couldn't and when I got tired of the nostalgia Shinemon happened and the unique playstyles of the original units were wonderful. Sadly couldn't keep my interest in other when they announced the reboot as it became a format that would only get updated like once a year. Interesting enough V's lasting legacy for me is that G is the death of Vanguard, which didn't help when Zero died after G and the stride deck sets doing what they have been doing to D.
3 Weeks late, but I should say that energy generator is a mechanic that could be harmful to premium by design. They created the mechanic to have control over the things they release in standard. If a card skill could break premium the could just put the energy requirement to avoid it.
I came in with v Premium and i loved the people i met and the games i played but it felt like whenever new product came out i had to buy a whole new deck every time
8:41 For Premium i think it'll be even better if we got exclusive Energy Generator we can use on Premium and V format exclusively or like get a new V starter which creates Energy Generator instead of quickshield
If it wasn't for V series, I might've quit Vanguard after the G era with how harmful stride was becoming for the game. V felt refreshing to me by moving away from the Stride mechanic and embracing the Imaginary Gift system and it was fun because it felt like we were back to the roots of Vanguard but with higher numbers.
With V not as prominent now, I fear that Premium may suffer the same fate at a later time due to its overreliance on V for support along with D making more Energy-based and ride deck-based support which are practically unusable in Premium. Without any new products (And I mean actual new cards. Not reprints or erratas), it'll only be a matter of time.
I think Bushiroad should just rip the band aid off and put the ride deck on premium. Would it be a nightmare for some cases? yes, but it'd also make every D product a must for premium players.
Just when Link joker made its return, im very sad as a Link joker Only player
I will always love V mainly because it bwas the first format I was able to do tournaments with and it gave us my avatar Hanzo, I really hope he comes to D sometime
V-Premium was a lot of hype for me as it was a way for me to get back into the game after all of the second half of G really burnt me out and the fact that I was much more lacking in purchasing power back in the day. I eventually landed myself a Brufas deck which I had a lot of fun with for a while and I felt myself enjoying it a lot again but I did somewhat miss the premium stuff I gave up after I quit the game briefly. I still haven't gotten back into the game physically in D format as I'm more conservative in spending money on hobbies currently but I do plan on doing so eventually, just when my interest is on the up again.
Despite all of the problems it is such a cool format. Love you V-premium and will always keep my Link Joker decks. o7
bro what has this game become, from someone who stopped when chrono got introduced this is a whole different game its mad idek where to start to get back into the game
V is incredibly fun i despised vanguard in G era, i thought it was one of the worst tcgs in print by far. After starting in D i now wish i had tried again during V
I'm gonna miss it. V was the format I came back into the game with and grew to really like it. Sadly, I saw the writing on the wall with standard, so this doesn't surprise me. That being said, as much as I cherish my memories of Vanguard as a whole, I don't like standards feel and can't get people to try premium, so it's kinda the end of the road.
It's okay. Me and my Friends saw the writing on the walls but we didn't care. Why? BEcause we started working on a custom format that was most comfortable for all of us which we coined as the Chris Format lol.
3 years of V drama - best funny topic was on V-Luard meta.
imagine we can revert our time back not to spend any single penny on V for 3 years - use that money to D-era instead.. vg today will be on different level.
GIVE ME BACK MA 3 YEARS V-MONEY BUSHI XD
sorry for late i hope my Altmile is back for D-standard
I used to play during the time of Asia Circuit with borrowed decks from my cousins - I always went Royals and it was the weakest deck out of all their decks, but I didn't care. V is the first deck I ended up owning myself back in 2020
Rip V premium one of my most favourite format since I got my V aqua force Glory Maelstrom deck and now its gone now so I hope that Glory Maelstrom makes a comeback too D standard after the 2nd season or the 3rd season of Divinez anime and especially the card revealed of Divinez set 4 and set 5 or Divinez set 7 or set 8 so the filler set might happen for Glory Maelstrom for neither DZ booster set 6 or DZ booster set 9 from next year of filler set
I loved what V did for tachi it gave me some of my best g2s and g1s but didn’t enjoy it for a while im glad it’s a side event for people who love the format
I feel fine cause I don't like V as much, but my friend sure feel bad for it.
I wish our community didnt die. They had a following for D. I left in earlier stages of D format but apparently a year and a half after my departure, it got to a point where one player started becoming inaufferable to be around and it didnt matter where they would go to play the game. This player would follow them. The TO who told me all this legit was on vacation with his wife and when they would come back they would prepare more tournements for the community. The insufferable player kept harassing them on socials over tournament dates that in the end the guy gave up on the game pretty much. Its just sad to see that one player ruined it for a community of about 20-25 people.
I was introduced during V, fell in love with Granblue and Nightrose, and although it's not quite a Nightrose unit Dragon Undead, Skull Dragon is my boy. I tried playing V more but it felt too much like League of Legends for Cardfight. Sure, you can have a cool thing but it was toxic primarily because of the Imaginary Gifts certain clans got. I often found myself in the situation of, "Oh, you have another PG? Well I have 8 attackers on the front row," or something like that.
I won't she'd tears if they shut down the tourneys completely, or it gets fully absorbed into Premium, but it's not lost on me that people prefer it. I just disagree that it should have lasted in EN for as long as it did.
I’ve only ever played standard but I do look at V and premium w/ interest. My main cardfight buddy doesn’t want too try either of the formats because he’s convinced there way too complicated compared to standard
The end? Bruh, me and my friend never moved on from V, we always enjoy V
man, I retired for like 5 mins and what is happening here?
Amazing
They really should change the name of premium format or just use the deluxe adjective for the premium deck sets with the nice stuff in it.
RIP V, may this give the chance for more premium support
also with Energy generator not being on premium does that mean every other DivineZ deck become useless in Premium?
man, v was when me and my friend discovered vanguard, i still prefer it over the others but my state (in the usa) has no stores that have cfv we never got to get fully into it and experiance the power creep
my first non starter deck was the gear chronicle mystery flare when v only had one v gears set
d is cool but i bought a few boxes i regret since online is the only real way i can play anyone unless bushi starts pushing the game in the west