Im one of the few where ram is Fortunately soldered = Lower power consumption, smaller chasis, faster ram, faster igpu. Of course camm2 will be nice as well in the future
I'm one of the few where ram is Fortunately soldered = ??????? PS. what happens when you want to upgrade the ram or when it possibly goes bad? PS. PS. Can you give proof soldered ram equals lower power use? Sounds like rubbish to me. What it does, sound like, is cutting costs in production. Linux laptops deserve so much better than soldered ram...
How does this compare with other laptops that also have good Linux support? For example, some Dell and Lenovo laptops can even push BIOS updates on Ubuntu.
5:00 Im getting ~9hours of use out of it on battery since it is ppossible to really customize zour battery usage, for example you can easily change (also automatically on battery for example) how many cores your laptop can use, which frequency the run on, how high your refresh rate is etc
Couple days ago someone on Unixporn posted a rice on this laptop, and I asked most of the questions you answered in this video, so timing couldn't be better :) Thanks!
Would it be possible to also test the similar KDE Slimbook V to see how it compares? Deciding between this one and the tested one and it would be awesome to have the comparison.
It's not Ubuntu by default. You _can_ get it shipped with Ubuntu, but by default, it comes with Tuxedo OS, which is Kubuntu but with newer KDE Plasma versions, Snaps patched out, and Flatpaks preinstalled.
@@cameronbosch1213 Ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu -- it really doesn't matter. The base OS is the same. Put Slackware or FreeBSD on it and I would be interested.
I don't know what the exact release/review schedule is but on the Tuxedo website they already have a 8845HS "Gen4" version of the Pulse 14 (besides a potentially slightly better bin and the NPU I don't know if there's any difference vs the 7840HS version though). Tuxedo uses lower tier ODMs (Uniwill, Clevo) for their laptop designs so I guess we'll just have to wait and see when they get an allocation of the Strix Point.
I read comments saying Linux is better than this and better than that but I never see that in reality. Battery life looks average, performance in-line with rivals, and although priced OK, not by any way value bearing in mind you do not have to pay for the OS. Apparently no ecosystem integration and the lack of USB4 is restrictive. The display is the lower end of premium; is there an OLED option? I suppose like people that choose Framework, this is a lifestyle choice rather than for reasons that the core average user cares about in the ultrabook market. I see nothing interesting but each to their own & you can always dual-boot Windows at extra cost as a more flexible system.
The AMD Framework Laptop 13 has ANSI keyboard options as well as two USB4 ports, it has replaceable RAM, it also supports Linux officially, and Framework has shown that they _can_ deliver on their mainboard upgrade promises. I honestly don't know who this Tuxedo laptop is for...
You can run Linux on other hardware either from dedicated vendors (System76, Slimbook, Starbook, etc) or as an option from major vendors (Dell, HP, Lenovo all have Ubuntu certified models) - the hardware is separate question from the OS. As for why Linux, if you're a developer, value your privacy, security, or want full customizability of your environment, then Linux can have a lot of advantages over Windows. If those don't matter to you, then you'll have more hardware options available if you run Windows.
@@lhlThis is very true. Great comment. I personally left Windows when Windows 11 was released, but I do hope we get more competitive hardware working with Linux from Framework and System76 for US based users.
Well, they have to deal with a MUCH smaller target audience, so I am sure that this will affect pricing quite a bit. And they provide their own Linux "OS" with pretty in-depth support ...
@@NotebookcheckReviewsthey'll have no audience if they don't become competitive. My point was Linux is free. That's $100+ saved right there. I can get an equivalent Lenovo, Acer or HP for half, sometime _a third_ of the price. _With Windows._ ThinkBooks and ThinkPads cost less...
@@kompassorpigo7600 I doubt that you can get an equivalent from a big company with the same CPU and 32 GB of RAM for half or less ... besides, will they replace their logo with a custom logo?
@@martinschubert7031 Lenovo Yoga 14. HP Pavilion Plus 14. I've seen both in the $500-700 range. If you're okay with 16GB there was a Pavilion Plus 14 for $410. That's €380, less than a third of the asking price of this, with a 3K 120Hz HDR OLED screen. I've even seen tiny premium laptops like the ThinkBook 13X for ~$900. The ThinkPad Z13 isn't all that much more at ~$1300. Everything I listed has either a Zen 4 or a Core Ultra 7/9.
I worked on 14", and now I'm working with 13" 16:10 laptop. It's okay, if you're not graphic designer or something. For code it's pretty Ok, and I love that my laptop weighs only 1 kilogram
@@NotebookcheckReviews these guys make good product and price is good too, it's just Nvidia's TAX that pains me - ~$750 for 188mm2 mobile GPU? no, I'll go with iGPU version. one last thing, 15.4" inch modern notebooks have keyboard which stretches edge to edge and when u type yr palm will be at extream angle which is awkward, because of that I'll go with 17inch one. that's it, i though it's something to keep in mind :)
@@lhl yes, that on I liked more but I'm thinking about 17 inch versions. I have ASUS S550CA, and I'm thinking to replace with similar size to have enough typing space, where palm rests and where fingers go since I'll be coding on it all day.
The last ThinkPad I'd consider, the T25 (the 25th anniversary ThinkPad) can't even run Windows 11 officially because the CPU is a single generation too old! Oh well, Linux it is! 😂
@@First.nameLastname Exactly. Key word is "want", because I understand why some people HAVE to use Windows because of software that only works on Windows and doesn't work well with Wine, but Linux is better in many other ways.
@@cameronbosch1213 for the few apps that are windows dependent I kvm windows for these apps I have never liked wine, but to tell you the truth I haven’t used wine for more than than a decade now.
Way overpriced, too thick, insides look messy assembly and for the same price you can get a thinner one with gorilla glass display and better performance/battery from Lenovo.
@@lukaszbusko Never did, then again i never did buy a budget device from them, all of my Lenovo's where a minimum of $1000. All devices for professional use.
@@lukaszbusko the fact that you mention crap brands like clevo, tongfang and asus says enough 🤣 Nobody would even consider in using those brands in businesses and asus doesn't even have/offer business hardware ! We upgraded out thinclients from HP to Lenovo and our notebooks to Thinkpads. Durability and quality are astounding and battery/performance on out notebooks are good as double. For personal use as i test unites myself i would not trust any other PC brand.
@JerryDoe lol hp is sh*t as hell, you have no idea you are talking about. Clevo and tongfang are beasts. I never had any issue with them, and it does not matter what European branding they have.
Maybe you can think about how voice your criticism a little more constructive the next time. We always try to make our videos better and our audiences feedback is incredible valuable. But completely disregarding our video, multiple people worked hard for, because you do not like my tone and insinuating that it's paid (which it is not) is not the "nicest" thing to do. Still, thanks for watching and for keeping us on our toes!
@NotebookcheckReviews I agree. It's better than shilling for big OEMs like Asus or Dell, like some other content creators do, some of whom I've had to unsubscribe from because the sponsored coverage was ridiculous.
@@NotebookcheckReviews Sure, I get that. But are those numbers relevant? How the system performs under Windows is sorta orthogonal to the purpose of this laptop. Not that there's anything wrong in running those benchmarks anyway... I am just not sure how relevant the data is to the target audience for this laptop.
@chomskyan4life Because Windows and Linux tend to get very different battery life. If the goal is to benchmark the hardware, the software needs to be the same. It's a pretty simple and understandable explanation that was even mentioned in the video. Don't worry, they didn't install Windows on your machine. 😉
Im one of the few where ram is Fortunately soldered = Lower power consumption, smaller chasis, faster ram, faster igpu. Of course camm2 will be nice as well in the future
Im with you on that one, especially in machines that benefit from the factors you mentioned!
I'm one of the few where ram is Fortunately soldered = ??????? PS. what happens when you want to upgrade the ram or when it possibly goes bad? PS. PS. Can you give proof soldered ram equals lower power use? Sounds like rubbish to me. What it does, sound like, is cutting costs in production. Linux laptops deserve so much better than soldered ram...
For anyone interested: You can already buy the newer Gen 4 Model. Using it right now! Has the R7 8845HS in it
Another great review!! Keep up the good work! 😎
Thanks a lot, and you bet we will!
Hey Alex Wätzel, can you recommend which laptop is best for sound engineering and music production.
How does this compare with other laptops that also have good Linux support? For example, some Dell and Lenovo laptops can even push BIOS updates on Ubuntu.
5:00 Im getting ~9hours of use out of it on battery since it is ppossible to really customize zour battery usage, for example you can easily change (also automatically on battery for example) how many cores your laptop can use, which frequency the run on, how high your refresh rate is etc
The 8840 version is already for sale, otherwise great review!
Yeah, I have been sitting on this one for a while! Its been a busy few months!
Q: Do you really need a new computer?
Or just some one to install Linux on your current one?
Couple days ago someone on Unixporn posted a rice on this laptop, and I asked most of the questions you answered in this video, so timing couldn't be better :) Thanks!
Glad we could help!
Thanks for watching!
4:48 You say it averages 7 hours in your Wifi battery test, and the chart shows 620min (10h20min). Who's right?
"The Linux Experiment" would be proud 😅♥️👌👍
Hehe, I kinda want to do some more testing, especially when it comes to our own content creation needs! Let's see!
Would it be possible to also test the similar KDE Slimbook V to see how it compares? Deciding between this one and the tested one and it would be awesome to have the comparison.
no link to buy??
Pretty good spec for soldered board, don’t thing there’s a reason to upgrade
Yeah 32GB should be enough for a while.
I need the wallpaper please!
Strix scar 18 2024 or 2023 with 4090 , msi titan 2023 13th gen 4090 . Which one is more powerful ?
This should pretty much answer all of your questions:
ruclips.net/video/irPpKkScj4I/видео.html
I see gen 4 on their website
they've updated it with the 8840u, it's mainly the same laptop with a slight improvement in CPU performance
no usb4 :(
Sadly
The ThinkPad of Linux (excluding ThinkPads of course ;)
Ubuntu OS ? I think I'll give it a miss.
It's not Ubuntu by default. You _can_ get it shipped with Ubuntu, but by default, it comes with Tuxedo OS, which is Kubuntu but with newer KDE Plasma versions, Snaps patched out, and Flatpaks preinstalled.
@@cameronbosch1213 Ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu -- it really doesn't matter. The base OS is the same. Put Slackware or FreeBSD on it and I would be interested.
all the cool kids have threadripper laptops and above average biceps.
Bad timing if they waited for the new strix cpus with beefed up GPU and ai horsepower it would be an ok buy for that pricetag
I don't know what the exact release/review schedule is but on the Tuxedo website they already have a 8845HS "Gen4" version of the Pulse 14 (besides a potentially slightly better bin and the NPU I don't know if there's any difference vs the 7840HS version though). Tuxedo uses lower tier ODMs (Uniwill, Clevo) for their laptop designs so I guess we'll just have to wait and see when they get an allocation of the Strix Point.
Great machine but it has a bad camera and mic, so it is not good for video calls
Please do Mac laptops and Ipads, because you give accurate info
There will be an iPad video soon! ;)
Did I hear correctly? Soldered in ram? Sorry, not worth €100...
Welcome to 2024! ;)
I'd love to love it, but still no OLED, no front facing speakers, big chin, no convertible,... in short, a good laptop for a few years ago.
Mainstream Linux notebook?
Or a very "out-of-the-box" experience!
First again! I don't even have noti! But I love the vids!
Thanks a ton for the support!
I read comments saying Linux is better than this and better than that but I never see that in reality. Battery life looks average, performance in-line with rivals, and although priced OK, not by any way value bearing in mind you do not have to pay for the OS. Apparently no ecosystem integration and the lack of USB4 is restrictive. The display is the lower end of premium; is there an OLED option?
I suppose like people that choose Framework, this is a lifestyle choice rather than for reasons that the core average user cares about in the ultrabook market. I see nothing interesting but each to their own & you can always dual-boot Windows at extra cost as a more flexible system.
The AMD Framework Laptop 13 has ANSI keyboard options as well as two USB4 ports, it has replaceable RAM, it also supports Linux officially, and Framework has shown that they _can_ deliver on their mainboard upgrade promises. I honestly don't know who this Tuxedo laptop is for...
@@cameronbosch1213 it's called a choice, an alternative to the framework one. At least in terms of Linux certified laptops.
You can run Linux on other hardware either from dedicated vendors (System76, Slimbook, Starbook, etc) or as an option from major vendors (Dell, HP, Lenovo all have Ubuntu certified models) - the hardware is separate question from the OS. As for why Linux, if you're a developer, value your privacy, security, or want full customizability of your environment, then Linux can have a lot of advantages over Windows. If those don't matter to you, then you'll have more hardware options available if you run Windows.
@@lhl Thanks!
@@lhlThis is very true. Great comment. I personally left Windows when Windows 11 was released, but I do hope we get more competitive hardware working with Linux from Framework and System76 for US based users.
Extremely pricey for what you get. And that's _without_ paying for a Windows license??
Well, they have to deal with a MUCH smaller target audience, so I am sure that this will affect pricing quite a bit.
And they provide their own Linux "OS" with pretty in-depth support ...
@@NotebookcheckReviewsthey'll have no audience if they don't become competitive. My point was Linux is free. That's $100+ saved right there. I can get an equivalent Lenovo, Acer or HP for half, sometime _a third_ of the price. _With Windows._
ThinkBooks and ThinkPads cost less...
@@kompassorpigo7600 I doubt that you can get an equivalent from a big company with the same CPU and 32 GB of RAM for half or less ... besides, will they replace their logo with a custom logo?
@@martinschubert7031 Lenovo Yoga 14. HP Pavilion Plus 14. I've seen both in the $500-700 range. If you're okay with 16GB there was a Pavilion Plus 14 for $410. That's €380, less than a third of the asking price of this, with a 3K 120Hz HDR OLED screen. I've even seen tiny premium laptops like the ThinkBook 13X for ~$900. The ThinkPad Z13 isn't all that much more at ~$1300. Everything I listed has either a Zen 4 or a Core Ultra 7/9.
14" is too small of a screen for meaningful work. 15.4" is minimum
They got you covered ;)
www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/TUXEDO-Stellaris-Slim-15-Gen6-AMD.tuxedo
@@NotebookcheckReviews There's a new InfinityBook Pro 15 Gen 9 (AMD and Intel) as well if you want an iGPU only versions.
I worked on 14", and now I'm working with 13" 16:10 laptop. It's okay, if you're not graphic designer or something. For code it's pretty Ok, and I love that my laptop weighs only 1 kilogram
@@NotebookcheckReviews these guys make good product and price is good too, it's just Nvidia's TAX that pains me - ~$750 for 188mm2 mobile GPU? no, I'll go with iGPU version.
one last thing, 15.4" inch modern notebooks have keyboard which stretches edge to edge and when u type yr palm will be at extream angle which is awkward, because of that I'll go with 17inch one.
that's it, i though it's something to keep in mind :)
@@lhl yes, that on I liked more but I'm thinking about 17 inch versions.
I have ASUS S550CA, and I'm thinking to replace with similar size to have enough typing space, where palm rests and where fingers go since I'll be coding on it all day.
No old thinkpad is what Linux users need. Just add neck beard.
Hahahahahaha
The last ThinkPad I'd consider, the T25 (the 25th anniversary ThinkPad) can't even run Windows 11 officially because the CPU is a single generation too old! Oh well, Linux it is! 😂
@@cameronbosch1213 the real question is why you would want to run windows if you know about Linux.
@@First.nameLastname Exactly. Key word is "want", because I understand why some people HAVE to use Windows because of software that only works on Windows and doesn't work well with Wine, but Linux is better in many other ways.
@@cameronbosch1213 for the few apps that are windows dependent I kvm windows for these apps I have never liked wine, but to tell you the truth I haven’t used wine for more than than a decade now.
Way overpriced, too thick, insides look messy assembly and for the same price you can get a thinner one with gorilla glass display and better performance/battery from Lenovo.
have you ever had crap from lenovo? I did.. loud, slow, constantly thermal throttling, overpriced piece of sh*t.
@@lukaszbusko Never did, then again i never did buy a budget device from them, all of my Lenovo's where a minimum of $1000. All devices for professional use.
@@JerryDoe I've revived from company $3k lenovo, it sh*t comparing to clevo, tongfang, asus or even acer.
@@lukaszbusko the fact that you mention crap brands like clevo, tongfang and asus says enough 🤣
Nobody would even consider in using those brands in businesses and asus doesn't even have/offer business hardware !
We upgraded out thinclients from HP to Lenovo and our notebooks to Thinkpads.
Durability and quality are astounding and battery/performance on out notebooks are good as double.
For personal use as i test unites myself i would not trust any other PC brand.
@JerryDoe lol hp is sh*t as hell, you have no idea you are talking about. Clevo and tongfang are beasts. I never had any issue with them, and it does not matter what European branding they have.
Isn't "mainstream Linux" anything an oxymoron?
Probably, but this is as "mainstream" as it gets, when it comes to an "out-of-box" Linux experience!
you talk like a carnival barker, hopefully Tuxedo pays well.
Thank you for your feedback!
@@NotebookcheckReviews: good answer, respect.
Maybe you can think about how voice your criticism a little more constructive the next time.
We always try to make our videos better and our audiences feedback is incredible valuable.
But completely disregarding our video, multiple people worked hard for, because you do not like my tone and insinuating that it's paid (which it is not) is not the "nicest" thing to do.
Still, thanks for watching and for keeping us on our toes!
@NotebookcheckReviews I agree. It's better than shilling for big OEMs like Asus or Dell, like some other content creators do, some of whom I've had to unsubscribe from because the sponsored coverage was ridiculous.
Why install Windows on a Linux device? Kinda beats the point...
To ensure all of our benchmarks run as usual, and as I said in the video, we did not observe any difference!
@@NotebookcheckReviews Sure, I get that. But are those numbers relevant? How the system performs under Windows is sorta orthogonal to the purpose of this laptop. Not that there's anything wrong in running those benchmarks anyway... I am just not sure how relevant the data is to the target audience for this laptop.
@@chomskyan4life- Most of the target audience will be dual booting so it is relevant.
@chomskyan4life Because Windows and Linux tend to get very different battery life. If the goal is to benchmark the hardware, the software needs to be the same.
It's a pretty simple and understandable explanation that was even mentioned in the video. Don't worry, they didn't install Windows on your machine. 😉
Users should get freedom. Even the freedom to use windows...