Absolute worst inspection ever on '06 Dodge Magnum! CAR WIZARD hates to give customer the bad news
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- This is why you need to get a Pre-Purchase Inspection on a used car. The CAR WIZARD 🧙♂️ is just sick to his stomach how truly bad this 2006 dodge Magnum is.
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A Dodge with 250k+ on it, is already a miracle of mechanical perseverance
there are plenty of dodges with over 250k.
It has a replaced engine and tranny so it doesn't truly have 250k
They should make a holiday about your car and people should have the light candles on that day to bless them of the Mopar gods for smiling down upon you
I drove a 2007 dodge carvan as a delivery van. The company bought it brand new. When I left it had 425,000. The engine had been replaced twice. Transmission was replaced 4 times. So mileage on a dodge doesn't mean anything
😂
It may sound odd, but I am comforted every time you get upset. It shows your relentless, continual advocation for your customers. Thank you for loving people.
Yeah but he cannot protect themselves 😁😁😁
Advocacy my dude 😂
"Thank you for loving people". Jeez, settle down dude! Car Wizard's a good guy, but he's not the second coming of Christ! 😂
check my latest vid. Some shop are appaling and they bring down the trade and make people not want to pay what it cost because someone can do it cheaper.....like this
I thought the same thing.
I'm a mechanic and I work from my home shop, and there's one customer who buy cars from auctions and want me to install junkyard parts so he can sell them at ridiculous prices. I turned him down, I don't play that on people. People work hard for their money and don't deserve to be ripped off like this. Mr. Wizard, I feel sorry for that customer as well. It makes me angry.
That was smart to turn him down. On top of being the right thing, you also know he would tell his customers to blame their break downs on you lol
See people like making fun of the ones making payment on vehicles but not so funny when a car breaks down and we have warranty. I'm looking to get mustang mach E. Do I care if it's reliable? Not really. Comes with warranty. I can enjoy the car that I want, without the headache if dealing with it if something breaks down. By the time warranty is out, I'll be changing the vehicle anyway
Well done Sir
I would never buy an auction car.
@@micclay what if that car was like 8k normally but you can get it for $500 bucks Auction fees and all, you would take the risk then wouldn’t you?
With the scarcity of cars right now, I can believe cars like this are making their way into the market
Yep. It's gonna unfold more within the next couple of years probably
@@carsmusicandclothing7066 doubt it, there making like 12 new chip foundries, guessing shit gets back to normall in about a year, until then it might be fun, not financial advice
Especially with all the flooding this past summer!
@@sunnohh building them takes like 4 years plus.
@@sunnohh it will take quite a bit of time for the new fabs to come online, then distribute to the automotive OEMs, then to get the finished vehicles to the lots.
Semiconductor manufacturers give two shits about the automotive industry and their outdated designs; I would imagine that car designers will need to modernize the electronics for this to truly get fixed.
I just can't understand the thought process of buying a wrecked Dodge with over 250k miles and not expecting this to happen
It's cause the guy who bought really likes the look of it and has no clue about mechanics at all
The cost, probably thought they were getting it for a firesale price, like $1k or less. Also people can be desperate if they need a car for a job. They sold them a dangerous lemon.
I would not have paid more than 2k for this if perfect . With multiple thousands in repairs, I would not have bought it.
If the car was cheap enough. If someone offered it to me for $1k and I could get a decent cheap motor, I would roll the dice.
@@musclesmouse Yeah it really sucks for this person. Assuming this came from a used car lot im sure they're totally upside down on the stupid thing. What scumbags
I've been a automotive technician for over 20 years....
At one point, I just stopped trying to save people from making huge financial mistakes on a vehicle that isn't mechanically sound. I saved a few, and they were greatful to me for saving them. Then at some point, they stopped listening, fell in love with the car that they wanted, no matter the problems, and ultimately paid a hefty price for the lust of their eyes.
Just because it looks good, doesn't mean it is good.
Yeah anyone who deals with the public gets beaten down by stupidity eventually. I remember at ACME in Ohio we had all kinds of ppl like that. Explaining that their favorite brand was out was pointless. Nearly everyone there pretended look for things that weren't available because they didn't feel like getting an argument
@Jimmy S ha.... My neighbor just bought a used VW jetta with 50k on the odo for $13.5k....after he sought my advice on if he should get or not.. I said no, because they're not fun to work on, parts are expensive for it, and alot of shops in my area don't work on European vehicles. 5 days later, it's sitting in his driveway.
@Jimmy S I told him.... They're the German equivalent of the Ford Fiesta. And I think you need a scan tool that can communicate with the VW software, in order to retract the pistons on the brake calipers. The days of 1.5 hours for pads and turning rotors are over with. Now you need a Lab Coat ad special equipment just for the simple shit.
Very true. Feels often like the opposite, that you easier fall in love with a bad car that looks great, rather than a healthy that's shabbier.
You are absolutely right!
This should have been a great parts car. The undamaged panels and interior would have kept other good cars on the road. It should have never been “repaired.”
its because when the bought it salvage they bought something which had a parts price on it and instead thought they could fix it roughly hence making more money. i know because its my industry
@@AJ-zv9tn I get it. I actually love watching RUclips channels that rebuild totaled out cars bought from Copart and the like. But the age, mileage, and extent of the damage meant this wasn't a good candidate for such a repair. But like you said, they saw bigger dollar signs for fixing it than for parting it out. But the looser in this case was the buyer. There are plenty of good rebuilt cars out there. I used to own a 2001 Acura Integra Type R that had a rebuilt title. When done right, they are perfectly good cars.
@@AJ-zv9tn 00000
No magnum should ever be repaired. I had no love for the cash for clunkers program but if the govt offered to smash everyone's magnums I'd celebrate.
Had to help some dude push one in all of one inch of snow once. He happened to be a guy who was dating an acquaintance and he was the biggest numbskull I've ever met.
@@andrewgarcia3136 that's cool but what does a guy have to do with the car he drives, don't be a douchebag and say a car is bad by association to a random person
And THAT'S why a pre-inspection with a trusted mechanic is so important. Thanks for showing us this Mr. W!
Or if you REALLY want that car and you are off state, pay two shops.
Seriously I’ve known MANY people that hear me tell them about a pre purchase inspection and there first question is “well how much is that gonna cost?!? , I say well I’m not sure, depends on the shop, but probably anywhere from $50-$250, and I get back “absolutely not!” I say why not?
Your ONLY spending $5-25k on this car and loaning your life away for some years on it and your complaining about a extra 250 at the most for a. Genuine reliable mechanic with over 10-25 (or more) years under there belt to look thru the car with a fine tooth comb to find any issues ,red flags, soon to be issues and then use there thousands dollar plus scan tool to read the codes ,check the data, see how worn out the engine is,(by checking fuel trims,how much % is adding on the low/high side ,etc etc) that’s too much money for you to spend when in reality , when you buy that car as is from where ever and the first thing burns out or check engine comes on and it’s running like crap, your gonna spend that or more just for a diagnostic and repair , BUTTTTT that’s too much to spend!! Good
Luck with the car ! I tell em lol
so yeah anyone with a brain knows that it’s smart to have things DOUBLE Checked. Even if your a handy person and change your own oil and know stuff, you may have checked the fluids and crawled underneath, etc etc but you don’t have a high end scan tool ( and no your $100 amazing bought code reader is not the same!) , to run and see live data, and scan for codes by each module individually, codes that won’t show in your little engine code reader. So why not spend a few dollars for PEACE OF MIND! You gonna get your doctor diagnosis that’s serious but the doctors Ives u weird vibes , I’m pretty sure you would definitely get a second opinion right???
Anyways Your mechanic may find nothing but it’s gonna need brakes in a little while or he could find out that the engine is heavily worn and it’s fuel trims are all over the map. That’s something you wouldn’t know if you bought the car sight unseen or decided the extra cash isn’t worth it for mr mechanic, and just got the car from whatever dealer and took there “it’s a great car and it’s a good runner!” News flash, they say that about EVERY car they are selling lol just like there’s ALWAYS a sale! Lol come on ppl WISE UP! Things like this don’t need to happen, and if a dealership or Joe Schmoe from marketplace refuses to let you take it to the mechanic,RUN don’t walk away quickly!! If they don’t let u, then what are they really trying to hide!
Too bad tht customer failed to comprehend the term.
Does no good for a PPI, after the fact.
With those miles that's a $1000 car, that's without including the collision. There's a sucker born every... Oh wait here comes another one... ⏰🍭
Pre-inspections are great if the use car lot dealer will let you leave with the car long enough without purchasing the vehicle first
“This car will never be worth fixing“
Hoovie has entered the chat.
Sell it to Whistlin Diesel.
I don't think the Wizard would take the project, even for Hoovie lol
@@BriteFrog yep, nope
I feel like if someone absolutely wants to own a magnum there's your chance. Any other cheap one will be just as ragged out.
@@jorgey4 Why anyone would even want one in perfect shape I have no idea. It's a station wagon that thinks its a muscle car.
As our country falls apart and customer service dies each day, people will seek out people like Wizard for reliable honest service. It’s gotten so bad that people are willing to drive hours and pay a fair premium just so they can work with honest people.
@@floki1664 I don't see the word "humble" anywhere in the comment you are responding to.
@Adam Boyle Customer service here in the UK is going the same way. Very much a case of 'buyer beware' whether buying a cheap coffee maker or a used car. I run my businesses around first rate customer service. Strive to deliver great value and when things go wrong, as they do sometimes, we make it right. I've had customers who have immediately geared up for a fight left near speechless when we simply make it right.
@@floki1664 how do You figure?
SERIOUSLY? This shop is to high and might to WASTE their time on someone’s ride if its not a Lamborghini or something that’s WORTH their time! HONEST and HUMBLE?! You gotta be kidding me!
@@Lovenpain Where is the word "humble" in the original comment?
My friends take me with to look at used cars. Love looking at a “nice one “ and finding obvious evidence it’s been resprayed on a couple panels and asking the salesman “how bad was the damage here before it was repaired?” Every one of them has been “Damaged?? What do you mean??” Then I point out the overspray on the chrome and bottom of gas tank and excess bondo on the inside of the wheel arch. I know most people can’t spot this stuff and I’d bet 90% of people are not getting what they think they are.
My sister looked at a C-Max that said Hybird on the passenger side because whoever repainted it reused the old letters instead of buying a new decal and got them out of order. It was otherwise a nice repair. Noticeable, but not bad
It’s usually pretty noticeable bc they never do a good job
Good for you big guy! You know about body work! Do you realize most dealers get cars from auctions and trade-ins? Sometimes you guys act like your knowledge will save the world. For heavens sake do you guys actually try and help people with your knowledge or do you just brag about it in RUclips comment sections
@@briantaylor7510 who pooped in your cereal 🤭
I love the looks I get when I break out my scanner when looking at a used car. Even if I don't find anything I can usually tell if they know something they aren't saying just by the reaction I get.
There is a reason why insurance companies write cars off like this as a total loss.
I truly feel bad for the customer
Once the body and frame is twisted forget about it. Everything else will be misaligned.
If it was an SRT Magnum it would have probably been put on a pro frame machine that could realign it.
@@CRAPO2011 if it was an 09 probably, earlier srt8 magnums with low low miles still go for sub 20
@@brandonw465 2008 was the last year for the Magnum, sadly.
Not really. It's all entirely repairable. It is all about how much you are prepared to spend to get it back into shape. This isn't a technical problem, it's a financial one.
@@tcpnetworks I know that..they can restore cars nowadays from 2 rusted panels left on it...but you know what I mean...c'mon.
I actually always liked how the Dodge Magnum looks, but beyond that, I could never own one. I’m honestly amazed the interior is in that condition with the mileage. I do agree with the Wizard; at a quick glance, not looking very close, I would say “Pretty clean for a Magnum” but you can never go off anything less than a deep analysis.
Dodge should be owned by Toyota. Dodges and FCA cars look great but the engines are junk. I am very surprised it has 257k miles.
@@timbutler6447 the 5.7 Hemi is a solid engine. also nothing shown here is the cars fault. It's 100% a shady dealer grabbing a cheap wreck and slapping it together.
It's fugly
@@Rich-on6fe With you there, they don't sell these where I live, but from the looks of it I'm guessing it's on the same platform as the Chrysler 300, which are utter, utter garbage other than the engine - and look like shit to boot.
You like how it looks?!?!?
The Wizard is spot on. About 4 years ago I had a 2005 RT that got rear-ended by a 3500 RAM. It obliterated the liftgate and back bumper. It still ran and tracked perfectly. When I took it to the Bodyshop for an estimate the guy noticed a little ripple where the left rear side window and the body meet. He immediately told me it wasn't worth fixing since the frame was bent. Because of the unibody frame, the price to fix it was almost twice what it was worth. He estimated repairs at $14,000 + IF he could find a liftgate. And it didn't need driveline/ motor repairs I got top dollar $8,600 and bought a 2006 with fewer miles for $7,200. I still have it. Great car!
Ya but Juan down the road will "fix" it for $3k and then Jim Bob will sell it for $10k to some gullible customer and laugh all the way to the bank.
That thunder in the background really adds to the ambience
Important distinction too.. the CAR has 250k miles on it. Nobody has a clue what the engine and transmission have on them. The car is TMU(True Mileage Unknown). The car is worth its weight in scrap. Nothing more.
I have a couple of friends that would tell you this truck is worth, at least, one fun race in a demo derby.
@Dominick That's what my wife says about me too.
Something tells me that it may be a replacement instrument cluster. A truly unknown mileage car.
Every CL flipper will ask collectible rare car $.
Everyones got a pile of gold as they say
Props to the Wizard and Crew for having a ton of empathy for the customer on this one.
For the salvage yard's sake, I guess they just sold the part, whomever installed it though... THAT is the culprit.
But X and Y Salvage yard is not to blame.
RIGHT! Why make out that either salvage yards were at fault. Like they sell faulty parts. Or maybe this shop is to HUMBLE or only wanting to explore cars that are worth more. With giving the false impressions that they are here on RUclips trying to capitalize on their customers. Freaking pathetic!
exactly. respect to the salvage yards
Salvage Yards sell Parts AS IS they don't Rebuild Engines and then put them up for sale most Junk Yards you have to bring your own Tools and Remove the Parts from the Vehicle yourself
Salvage yards ain't run by angels guys, most have mob affiliations, they by no means above selling broken junk. I've seen engines sold online for thousands of dollars that arrived with holes in the block or oil pan.
@@deltasixgaming The scrap yards usually offer a 30-90 day warranty. The seller is to blame, 100%.
I would have never considered that car due to the mileage alone. Then that stuck drivers door, I would have shut it and walked to the next car.
The seller probably ran in front of the buyer and said, "Let me get that door for you!.." The buyer just thought the guy was being nice.
It may be possible this is the best the buyer could afford, whatever price was asked, not realizing the price tag was suspiciously low for that particular car.
I would have walked to the next dealership. Any seller who would even try sticking someone with that car isnt worth the risk of dealing with.
the door could be loosened up, but i agree with you about the mileage
@@funstuff192 Amen
256k I'm shocked it got past 130/150k. That interior is in phenomenal shape considering it's age as cheap and No frills as it is
Lol with that plastic interior? 🤣
Yeah shocked that Hemi hasn’t swallowed a few valve seats by that many miles. Such a turd
Why though? Is dodge so unreliable after so many miles?
Then engine and tranny has been replaced
@@nordicpride9708 the valve seat issues are caused by uneven heat distribution which is caused by the mds system, if you know how to negate it, it's not so much of a problem.
As a tech in this industry I have to tell you I respect you so much for telling your customers to get rid of these type of cars instead of screwing them on repairs that are not going to help ....I have told many a customers not to put money into a vehicle.... it is techs like you that help keep our industry afloat
I love how calm and chill he is when he is “upset” lol
The Car Wizard's temperament is truly remarkable. He has ice water in his veins.
God bless you, Mr. Wizard. Thank you for your kindness towards that customer. Thank you for the warning for all of us!
Post purchase inspections are great for DIYers. You get a to-do list extremely fast
If you're really a DIY'er capable of rebuilding a car, you would just inspect it yourself.
@@StormsparkPegasus true but you can easily miss some things in your new car zeal, and it saves time
WHY A POST PURCHASE? WHY? ARE PEOPLE JUST IGNORANT?
PRE PURCHASE INSPECTION. ALWAYS. ALWAYS. ALWAYS. IF THEY WONT LET YOU, RUN AWAY FFS.
This is why I have a hard time feeling sorry for people who end up with a turd. There should not even be a term called post purchase inspection. Inspection must be before you sign that dotted line. If they won’t let you there’s plenty of places and people who will let you. Might cost a couple hundred bucks but you’re spending in most cases thousands of dollars and if you don’t have it looked at first - it’s a straight gamble. That’s the wrong way to buy cars.
257K miles on any Chrysler product, run away
Just bought a 06 magnum in the same color, has the 3.5 v6, 230,000 miles. It’s been a blast, has dents here and there but the interior is mint. Have already put tons of miles on it and honestly love the car. Heard the hemis have tons of issues sadly.
Just the car been since? I just brought one and working on it..
@@gloomztv9736 still going great
Friend bought a few 5.7 Hemi pickups many yrs ago. Every single one had a valvetrain failure. Warranty replacement same thing. Why he kept buying them baffles me.
On the next episode of Tavarish “I bought a salvage Magnum”
The customer probably paid 5-10 grand for it form this scammer in this economic climate
And then he would begin to tell us how nice it is lol
I can't stand those salvage guys... they'd do it just to get views. So annoying.
nah that would be Hoovie
I can't wait for Hoovie tells us how much he paid for it.
Next week on Hoovie's Garage: "I bought the cheapest Dodge Mangum in the US!"
That looks like a NC Buy-here-pay-here special. I've seen cars in that bad of condition or worse for $99/wk for four years. Absolute predators.
OMG Im dying that's so funny!!
Those buy-here-pay-here lots should be illegal. Every one of them is a scam artist.
🤣🤣🤣
I worked at a BH/PH lot as security for 15 years and sales for 7 of those as well. 28% APR, no warranty (of course), average vehicle cost of $4995.
I saw vehicles sold that weren't safe for the road. Leaks, bad brakes, slipping transmissions, oil burning like California, you name it. I bought one car from us out of desperation. Transmission went out after 17k miles. The GM got pissy when I bought my next car from elsewhere.
Magnums, Chargers, 300s, Caprices, Crown Vics, and Grand Marquis are guarantee sales at BH/PH lots, and they are almost always ragged out. The entire setup is designed to take advantage of customers, some of which are so desperate, they can't even be talked out of buying a car.
I've seen a lot worse than this Magnum sell for $1500 down and $300 a month for 24 months. That's with the oversight from government and the state's independent dealer association. Imagine what we could have done with NO regulation.
99/week? for this POS?
In eastern Europe this could pass for a "like new, first owner" condition once you roll back the odo.
California craigslist same thing.
Out here they will put "LOW 200xxxmiles" just getting broke in.
Whoever cross-threaded that bolt half-in and half-out and just shrugged and said f-that..... whoever did that needs the taste smacked out their mouth for real. Such laziness I can't even imagine.
that's someone being an awful mechanic/human being, beyond belief. its SO obvious, too, just sticking out like that!
The mechanic was probably paid to just get it to pass inspection. They knew it was a salvage job.
I’d do it on my own vehicle. But never one I intended to sell.
@@YeetoLavito my own vehicle isnt one id do that to!
It’s probably factory, dodge shit
I feel so bad for this customer. I'm sure this was a great car prior to the carnage that it was dealt. Plus you don't see that many Magnums on the road anymore. Yes, they need to dump this car. Wizard, you nailed it. It literally is a bankruptcy on wheels.
Perhaps the owner could donate it to a technical or vocational school to be used to teach students etc.
It's a dodge Magnum. It was never a great car. Even with a hemi
He knew it had been wrecked and he knew it had 250k miles, this stuff is to be expected on a car under those circumstances, its really not a big deal...
Dodge magnums came with the 2.7 for export. 5.7 on a dodge magnum is rare
sell it in texas. itll be a donk.
This was a 6 cylinder model magnum converted to an RT engine and Transmission
The hoodprop and gauges give it away.
That is why you do pre purchase inspections and not post purchase....
Who buys a fifteen year old vehicle with a quarter million miles and obviously poorly repaired damage from a fairly serious collision?
Stupid People
especially a Dodge, yeah they're pretty and fast, but they don't last
People who can't afford anything better, or people who don't know any better.
For the price of that car you could probably buy a reasonably decent small car.
Here in norway the insurance company would condemn it, leave it with a junk yard and registered junked, and it would never ever get registered for the road again. Parts sold and rest sold as metal junk.
Having soft spot for wagons and this being my favorite one it’s a shame to see it being patched up so badly. Wonder if Junkyard Dave will need the roof with hatch for more ultimate hellcat wagons.
as a 12th grade auto body student i’m offended you said a 12th grader threw it together🤣😭 that is really just sad
Do my eyes deceive me, or is there a perfectly good hood prop sitting there that Car Wizard isn't using while talking about missing hood struts?
Yes it does look like one, the black shaped rod sitting along the front.
He completely missed it
That is still no excuse for a product that uses flex disk for a universal u joint on the driveshaft.? What a joke. Yuck. Unless you do not know any better...
@@SmoothCruizer37 we weren't even talking about that?
@@SmoothCruizer37 bmw and Mercedes have used flexible joints for decades. If they are quality items they last 100000 miles. This charger / magnum is based on a Mercedes chassis so has a similar setup
To hold the hood up, there is a device called a "prop rod" located near the front of the car just in front of the radiator. If you lift it up, it will insert into a hole in the bottom of the hood to hold it up. Cars with prop rods don't have hood struts.
I'm so glad I wasent the only one who seen the hood prop rod when he opened the hood 🤣🤣
I hate prop rods.
How did the 'wizzard' mis that one, guess he wanted more drama lama
True, but you can clearly see the ball-end studs near the hinges where the struts are supposed to be!
@@84gssteve Never had them. My father bought a magnum brand new and it never had struts.
You know why I like the wizard, it’s because he has integrity. I have never been lucky enough to meet a mechanic with the sense of decency that mr. and Mrs. wizard have shown. Thank you for restoring my faith in the repair industry.
idk.....instead of telling the guy he got a garbage car and he needs to send it to a junkyard or part it out.... he told him to sell it off to someone else to unload his problem......ethical?
@@captrodgers4273 he never said to lie to the person he sells it to
5:40 this Dodge got a stick for holding up the bonnet , I actually can see it !
Yea, kind of embarrassing that a mechanic couldn’t figure that out. His all other mechanics are stupid routine is starting to get old.
Noticed the same thing myself.
Yep 2006 on magnum did not have struts, they got hood props. And you can see it on the core support, not sure why he chose to just hold the hood and not use the hood prop
@@jross13450 That's right ! I've a 2009 Charger with the same deal.
Must be the hood is an 05. I can see the two spots for the shocks on the hood. I have an 05 sxt and my brother had an 06 R/T almost the same cars but minor differences.
“We told the customer he needs to unload it as a project car.”
So Hoovie owns it now right?
who gets it next? Won't it be "unloaded" on them?
The guy should have called the wizard first to inspect the car, and would have avoided this disaster by having done so....
“I just bought the CHEAPEST Dodge Magnum in the United States!”
on this episode Car Wizard is irate than he was ever with the Apollo 911
I know nothing about cars, but the doors not closing would alone make me walk away
I need to buy a cheap car at some point soon. This was a must-watch as a reminder to look closely at any car I consider! Thanks Wiz!
Most importantly, take it to a shop you trust for a PRE purchase inspection. If the lot denies you from doing that, walk away
My suggestion, any 3800 powered gm car or ford panther car. Theyre cheap AND reliable. Uses cars are rarely both.
@@Henry_Jones or a Ford Duratech 3.0 like I have in my Ford Five Hundred. I got it cheap two years ago and she's still reliable
@@thelonelywolf88 the old tauruses were good to with the vulcan or duratech
@@Henry_Jones however the only weak point on the older Tauruses was the transmission
"Serious shafting" is the best thing I've heard on this channel.
I’ve been a tech 26 years now and before I started my own business and worked at various shops, I can remember having this exact conversation at least 25 times.
Customer brings car in
“Can you check the car out and tell me if I should buy it?”
We check the car out, it’s a total turd.
“No, you definitely should not buy this, that’s the worst thing you could do!”
Customer: “Well, I already bought it!”
🤦🏼♂️
“Eff it all the way “ lmao ! That was perfect.
we didnt charge any labour at all coz we felt bad for the customer....Wizard you are to be Saluted 100 times for your honesty and humanity
I mean it SALVAGE engine and transmission. They don't guarantee that the parts work perfectly.
@Dominick it´s not right to take advantage of anyone - american or not.
They usually give 30 days on used engines from most yards. They could have taken it back to get a better engine rather than keep it.
They guarantee it works though, and many of them sell junkyard parts with a warranty attached, say 3 months or 5k miles.
Nothing wrong with using salvage parts
@Dominick Who's to say these people were taken advantage of? We don't know anything about this. And if these people bought this without having a reputable shop look it over first than they are equally responsible.
Shit like this is why I'm willing to keep fixing my old inherited Lesabre. Sure it's old, and yeah the interior has been heat baked into oblivion, but I know what that car was used for and more importantly where it's been. Grandma pretty much used it just to go to church and get groceries, so even with the miles I've put on it in the last few years it's still under 100k miles.
I know she won't be worth using forever, but hopefully the used market will become less crap before it hits 200k.
Get the seats re upholstered or go to the junk yard and get new good leather seats
Amen, these days a good car is like a good wife: keep her
Reminds me when I was looking for a WRX and went to a corner lot. When asked to put it on a lift, they got extremely defensive. They actually said "if you need to do that, this car isn't for you" ...yep, should have bought it first.
Reminds me when my gramps went to this “corner lot” to buy a 2005 Express conversion for 4500 bucks. He asked the salesman to put it up on the lift but the salesman shrugged it off say he did a through inspection. Van lasted only 4 years however before my gramps got sky high payments on a 3 year old GMC Terrain
Doesn't have to be a corner dealer. I went to an Audi dealership to purchase a used Lexus and they wouldn't let me take it to an independent shop.
You should have said if you're not willing to put it on the lift then you are not the dealer for me.
Yep. Automatic red flag walk away. I always check the fluids first. Low oil, peace out.
You guys will think I'm nuts. My current daily I bought sight unseen beyond 15 photos and a 60 second video of it backing up and pulling forward, 150 miles from home, 27 years old and sitting most of the last 10 at least.
But I also recognized it and knew it had been garaged most of the time and it only had 47K showing. I changed the oil, put new tires on it, and drive it anywhere. It does need pads and an idler pulley or something is making noise off and on, but nothing I didn't expect might happen.
Oh, and it's also a Chevy, so that's a big plus
The way you handled this video was an amazing testament to your morality. You were extremely respectful to parties that were unbelievably evil to the poor person that bought that car. I hope others learn from your integrity.
I would say according to what was in the video that there was only one party that screwed this person, that is whoever sold it it. Without more information/evidence it would be unfair to imply that the salvage yards were in on it as pluralizing the word party does in this context. (Granted the quality of junkyard parts is a conversation in and of itself.)
The salvage yards literally just sold the engine/trans to someone as salvaged parts. they had nothing to do with what happened to those parts afterwards.
Evil? No. The car was sold as-is. That means however it is that's what you get. Nobody promised the buyers anything. "there it sits is how you get it". That's as honest and upfront as you can get.
@@zjones9876 I would argue that "as is" is neither honest or dishonest. Since there are no claims being made it sits outside of those terms.
@@zjones9876 a car dealership also has a legal responsibility to disclose issues with a vehicle. Flood damage, accident records, etc. in some states even a private party can be forced to pay for repairs after selling too.
Wizard - would love to see a follow up video to find out what the customer ended up doing with the car (sold to someone else as a project car, got his/her money back from the sketchy seller, etc.)
A sad story Mr Wizard that doesn't happy very often in Australia as we have 12 month vehicle inspections on cars over 3 years old and we have independent vehicle pre purchase inspections at a reasonable cost . Although we get some ordinary paint jobs from minor crashes . In a bad crash with rail damage they cannot be repaired. Thanks for great content and keep up the terrific videos . Cheers from Rick in Sydney Australia
Rick, that's just NSW. It's far from as good in other states.
I had a brand new 2006 Magnum that had just been dropped off the car arrier to the dealership. It was my new company car I was picking up. I drove it for 2 days, and then it spent the next 2 weeks in-and-out of the dealership for a myriad of engine and fuse issues. I really really liked the styling of these cars. Too bad mine was a lemon from the get go.
IIRR, the owner's handbook says specifically: "Do not drop."
I have a 2006 with 2.7L. Live in Canada. By the time I figured out how bad it was I've already had to much into it. Everything from brakes, full front suspension, full rear suspension. Was the start. I bought everything to put it on, in the process of tear down to repair those issues I found out that the whole body had holes all through it, being a welder/fabricator I had the skills to fix it so I started at it, on tear down to fix those issues I found the front was on a collision and was barely held together with makeshift pieces riveted together, so I ended up finding a parts car there was so much broken and needed replacement, but if I had to pay a shop to do the work on it I figured it would of costed 15 to 20k. Took me 2.5 years to repair it. Only reason I kept going is I was and am to poor to get another car, by time I knew it was really bad I had to much in to change direction, only thing that saved me was my ability to do it myself.
I have been in your situation before. Besides being to broke to bail on the car, I keep thinking of how many things were repaired, surely it will stop breaking, only to bail when I realize that it never ends and a car payment on a dependable car is the better option for me. I don't know how to repair cars unfortunately.
It didn't come with hood struts. My 2006 R/T had a hood rod, no struts. My 300 had struts. Now the Magnum has the struts, they're easy to add, as the posts are there for them.
Same for the Charger. None on my 07
What's dumb is that there's clearly a prop rod right there to hold the hood
@@allendaley9439 exactly what I was saying
There's a rod on this car
It's so obvious. He has to understand the concept of the hood prop, and it's right there. If I just watched this video, and hadn't seen all the other work The Wizard has done, I would think this guy has never worked on a car in his life.
Just say NO to vehicles that have 250,000 plus miles. Useful life is over. Nothing but a money pit.
Unless it's a toyota or a Lexus :p
He probably paid 3000 $ for it.
If he paid more he was robbed.
He should go back to that seller and ask for refund.
Thanks for the heads up about these kind of cars. Especially since all of the newer cars are not cheap to fix when they are used normally and haven't been in a wreck.
To be fair it is to be expected when you’re looking at a 250k+ miles rebuilt title Dodge…
I don't understand why anyone would buy an American car with 256K miles AND been in a bad accident. The customer must have opened the driver's door before purchase.
Just plain old assholiness!
@@stringsattached67 dude...."tons"? Please define tons, and don't include the restored / collectable mustang's. Maybe, there are 100 examples in the country that made it to 300K miles, out of over 10 million that were made as of August 2018 (Google). Also, please reread my comment PAST the point of 256K miles, there's a big "AND" in there! Yeeesss, Mustangs were far superior to other American cars or for that matter any other car ever produced. 🤯
Yep...so that's 20% of the 100 I mentioned. The other 80 are out there somewhere.
Then there's always the guy from Patchogue, Long Island who got 3 million miles on his Volvo P1800. I think he rebuilt the original engine 2 or 3 times. Wayne Carini bought the car from his family after he died.
So I just did some quick math. 20 cars with 300000 miles each = 6 million miles of driving. Even if you drove 50000 miles per year (doubtful), it would take you 120 years to get to that mileage. Even if you bought well used cars...you couldn't find 20 high mileage Mustangs that weren't complete beaters. My friend...I don't believe a word of that crap! HA!
It was worth a laugh though...😁
We bought a used one from a friend. It had 186,000 plus miles on it. The car was also rebuilt. But it kept stalling at random times and the drivers door wouldn't stay open.
I am puzzled by this Dodge having a quarter million miles on it..
@@meowfaceification well normally they would swap it with one that doesn't have anywhere near over 250k miles, pretty sure its easier to find one that shows less that 250k, also you just need to swap the dashboard to show different miles, way easier than swapping an ECU
@@CarlosGutierrez-qw6pr I believe that depends on where the memory is, some vehicle store mileage in the instrument cluster, some store that info in the ECU
@@JDMHaze a car this old, I can guarantee the ECU and dash separately store the mileage
@@meowfaceification again, replacing the dash would take about 15 min, if you replaced the ECU that would require resetting it to match the VIN of the vehicle which requires a very expensive scan tool, I know I would do one than the other
All down hill.
This is a pretty obvious "ummmm, no"
This customer was NOT a car person, and is probably nice, which is why he got taken advantage of.
Lots of danger signs, simply visually. If i see paint and body evidence like that, i'm not touching it... And this car has the trifecta, body work, trans, AND engine!
AND structural misalignment AND regular mechanical issues
I had a mechanic do the same inspection and pointed out much the same issues years ago. I gave up on the car and just gave it to him. He ended up selling it with so said repairs for $5000. It was a 2005 Chevy Malibu and there were no repairs made and he threw a sticker on it and sold it in less than 48 hours after getting it for free. The difference is... My mechanic wasn't as trusted and had only been in business for 2 years while continuing the name of the previous garage that had been in business since 1959. This mechanic sounds like he wants to save you from spending money, most mechanics want you to pay all their bills until retirement. Good call out on this car. It is a good looking heap of shit. This thing is more fucked up than my ex girlfriend and whatever issues she had before we met. If the doors dont close and PB Blaster or WD 40 or even Graphite has been applied... Its way off, especially if the hinges look new or modified.
You are awesome for warning people of what kind of disasters are out there if they do not do the utmost diligence and homework before purchase. Thanks for contributing to a better society, Car Wizard.
I did a post-purchase inspection for this single mother at the old shop I worked at. It was a (I believe) 99 Honda Accord with the 2.3 and 4 speed auto. 223,000 miles or so. High, but I've owned cars with more miles that ran like clockwork. But the trans was slipping super badly when I drove it. It had several substantial oil leaks, the oil pan was caved in, the front subframe was damaged, all 4 tires were bald and had at least 2 nails in them each, and the interior was trashed. The dash had a christmas tree on it as well, so it wouldn't pass emissions, let alone state inspection. It would've cost her at least $5k to get it to pass, and that's with junkyard parts, so forget about a warranty. I just told her to get rid of it and get something else. We even offered to do a free pre-purchase inspection on whatever she was interested in since she didn't appear to know anything about cars and got ripped off.
You know what? You can't fix stupid.
Crazy. I have a 2000 accord I got from an auction for $350. Had 238k on the dash. It is a 5 speed though F23A1. Still my daily driver now with 272k
Good on the shop for telling the lady what she needed to hear and not letting her sink money into a dead car.
@@bbuny10 I had a 94 Civic EX with 273k and a rebuilt title that I got for $250 at auction. Drove it for a year and only sold it because I had another car and no longer needed it. Still ran just fine when I sold it, and as far as I know, the guy I sold it to still has it
Any Chrysler product that lasted over 250,000 miles is really impressive, that's like a Honda going 2 million miles.
That’s so cool you can pretty much just start spotting stuff instantly when you see a vehicle. Years and years of doing what you do is definitely the cause of that.
No. anyone can look at paint and see a difference in original paint (the rear) and bad repaint (the LF fender) and walk away. Anyone can see CELs on in the car. Anyone can test drive this shitheap hear noises and walk away. If is has the salvage title that I suspect anyone can read that and walk away. The only thing this requires is actually looking at the car with an objective eye, not 25 years of mechanical experience. Hell, the door didn't even shut right. These people deluded themselves into thinking they were getting a bargain and willfully ignored obvious red flags. If the used car lot won't let you test drive it to another shop for an inspection don't freaking buy it.
@@4cammer BUT IT WAS CHEAP the motto of Black Friday shoppers lol
@@4cammer I agree. With so many cosmetic red flags, anyone with an ounce of common sense would have walked away.
@@4cammer Doors that go BONK to open and BINK to close are a deal breaker.
Those things were junk brand new. Not even being sarcastic
There's a reason they were only sold for a few years
@@thelonelywolf88 Yep
Always love how he pronounces roof differently in the same sentence to accommodate different speaking people. Almost like standard and metric measurements in the same video. ❤️
Newest thing on that car is the oil drain plug. When I bought my second tacoma I was ready, did my own inspection then took it to a shop for a full inspection including ECU scan and compression test. Saved money, lowered the price and bought it knowing what it needed. Never buy sight unseen or uninspected.
Thunderation! Reminds me of my old 79 Datsun 310 that I bought from an unscrupulous ‘friend’ of my parents! I figured that the odometer had been rolled back 100,000 miles for a low-mileage car, everything that could’ve gone wrong did go wrong; and after spending twice what the car was worth I got rid of it like a hot potato! Great video for idiots like me!
That's really sad and whoever sold that car to that customer should have a lawsuit filed against them! That car isn't even SAFE to drive to the junkyard!!!! i hope the owner is able to recover something out of this mess!
You're looking for hood struts but it clearly has a hood prop rod that I can see laying where it should be... I don't know anything about Magnums, but I don't think that's a legitimate issue. A lot of cars use prop rods rather than struts.
I think I can see the little mounts on the hood that the struts are supposed to pop on to. 4:44 for instance.
But I don’t know these cars either.
@@christianronn5301 yes I noticed the little ball mounts on the hood edge near the hinge as well.
Nice Fiesta ST BTW.
Replacement hood. Use the rod if it fits the vehicle.
Yeah, they never had one. Source, my father bought a new 06 dodge magnum RT just like this one, and it never had struts, just the prop rod.
Customer should have had a mechanic look at car before purchasing it. Seems like a test drive should have given the purchaser an idea that car was no good. Tough luck.
Ya or at least that there were more problems than immediately apparent. Odd noises etc. The paintwork alone shows it was done cheaply so I f they can't even do the stuff you can see straight away half decently, how did they repair the things not so easy to see?
I've been a tech for 22 years and the last two years I've been working for a company as a mobile tech that comes in their shops to do the big jobs the body techs can't handle like frame swaps and the ev/hybrid cars and r&i down to the structure of the car so they can complete their body repairs, having said that. I've seen cars be repaired that i thought for sure would be totaled. Blows my mind what they can actually repair correctly, and i have seen some things that'll get people killed if they are involved in another accident. People's greed surprises me and disappointment abounds when i see the stuff. This young girl brought in a hot pink freshly painted chevy cobalt, wanted an inspection, after putting it on the lift the drivers seat was held in with a triangle shaped piece of aluminum sheet , looks like the car was tboned and the body shop pulled out the outer pinch weld and cut out the crumpled metal and replaced that with the aluminum , added some rivets and panel bond and sent it. I told her straight up if she gets in an accident the drivers seat may not stay with the car. Last i heard she got an attorney to get her money back which was 5k. People suck for reals
The Magnum was one of my favorite cars, especially the R/T or the SRT-8 model. Sadly, this is just a project car at this point. Drop a Hellcat in it, straighten it, repaint it, and put new wheels/tires on it. It can be a sweet ride. Hope the owner sues the seller if that is possible.
nope, mileage and accident were disclosed prior, most definitely an "as is" sale, buyer got screwed no question, but he took it for a test drive, said he was okay with it, and took it. That's the end of any possible lawsuit. If the seller lied, said it was never in an accident and no major work was done, then he'd have grounds for a lawsuit
Yes, I Would Sue the Hell out of them!
This is an excellent video -- a lot of "tough love" and one hell of a learning experience.
This happened to my sister. She had bought a 2003 Chevy Cavalier and initially the car drove fine, but when she took it to inspection, the entire underside of the car was rusted to the point of no repair. Fortunately, she was refunded and the seller was really good because they hadn't even known about that either. My sister was able to buy another car that was a heck of a lot better despite paying more.
I owned Chrysler 300C Touring with Hemi V8 engine for a few years, and the car was really great and loved the Autobahn cruising.
The touring is the v6 the hemi c is the 5.7
@@zurielthompson6420 correct, but overseas (outside North America), the 300 touring was station wagon magnum-based 300
Is that the Euro model assembled by Magna-Steyr in Graz, Austria?
I sold my 2006 Dodge 2500 Cummins a year ago. I was surprised the buyer did not want a shop to inspect it, but he went over it really well and i had receipts for quite a bit of work. The new clutch and the rebuild of eh dash after the air doors went south really helped me. But I saw the truck two days back and asked him how it was going with it. He said he had something to show me. Showed me the odometer. It had 206k miles on it when I sold it. It now had 327k. In one year. And he said the only thing that broke was the front u-joint got loose, and the ball joints were replaced (standard on these as the were under-engineered). He told me he had already got his money out of it. I would say so. The moral of this story is to find a vehicle that has been well cared for. I can fault him for not having a good shop look at it, but he (also) had some idea of the short comings on this truck. He planed to drop the transmission and have the bearings replaced, as they were a problem with 400k manual trans Dodge trucks. Seriously. Why didn't the buyer of this magnum have it checked? The guy who bought my truck immediately noticed the 'build tags' were missing from the driver's door. I told him it got dropped from a lift with the door opened and all the tags were in the glove box (they were) and I had the receipts from the professional shop that fixed the 'oops'. But one more thing ,most people would miss. Correct tag son the car or truck. Geez, people, the couple hundred you spend on an inspection will save you thousands, even tens of thousands. And I have heard wizard say his shop does inspections.
Chrysler corp. quality combined with a shady car dealer = priceless
Almost 300k miles interior looks amazing
@@Natethegreat200c 100%....I had 2 Chryslers and they were the same vehicle.....my first and last one......total garbage
@@thefalloutshelter7799 lots of bmw owners report the Same. I have 5 currently and have had many many many more in my past all the way back to the laBaron. Your experience may differ from mines.
Priceless and Worthless actually mean the same thing.
Hoovie, please give this poor customer one of your fixed cars. Its messed up what they are going through here :(
The Z8?
No way, Hoovie should buy it off him
That dodge is still for sale
Prolly didn’t even pay 500 dollars for this piece of junk. These are in the low thousands and actually drive, if he paid more than a grand, he really got scammed hard
It’s a Hemi he def paid more than a g
The door closing problem alone would have scared me away.
Not to mention the mismatched tires 😁
The stuck driver's door is caused by worn out hinges. Not a big deal to replace. I had same issue on my Magnum.
Something tells me that this car was repaired VERY poorly after it’s accident; as Chicago collision repair RUclipsr Vehcor would say: “Somebody’s been here before!”
The owner of this car needs to reach out to Vehcor and see if he wants to make a video out of it. :)
That was the untire point of this video.
Do NOT pass go, to NOT collect $200 dollars.
It's comprehension jail for you my friend.
I think even Mr. Spotty would be able to see the evidence of prior shenanigans.
And the next statement would be "....in the pile"
@@99Vood99 Yep, get Scott to pick it up and drag it to Illinois. He'll have the frame straightened in a few hours and the doors working pefect. Trouble is that there is no redeeming parts to this car....the engine and tranny are shot and so is the drive line, etc.
Thank you Car Wizard for showing us how bad it can go without due diligence, and thank you for being the type of human to avoid making this customer's misfortune worse.
A car that has 257k on it and has been in a major accident? Anyone with any common sense knows a car like that will be nothing but trouble.
For a Dodge that’s 15 years old with that many miles, you would have to assume it’s not going to be great. I actually didn’t think it was so bad at all. The Wizard would probably faint inspecting some of the cars I drive around!
Sadly, I think I've also seen much worse in the DC metro area at the buy-here-pay-here lots.
I don't want to drive around YOU.
What do you mean its not so bad? The damn doors won't close...several of them. Plus, it needs internal engine work. The car is junk.
Pay a dealer to do a pre-purchase inspection. I bought a 30k mile magnum 3k miles away with comfort by paying $400ish for a “pre-purchase inspection”. I was able to give them key points to focus on, take photos etc. and when finished, you get a full report. It’s worth spending the money as cheap insurance. Heck, the dealer said that if I didn’t buy it, they would I have had a fun A to B that fits 3 car seats in the back with LATCH safety.
I love the magnums. I was on the fence when my challenger was totaled when a tree crushed it when a freak storm came through and was looking for a replacement. There was a hemi awd magnum and charger hemi awd plus. Ended up with the charger because it had so much options that weren’t even offered on the magnum. Who needs heated and chilled cup holders? Guess I did! Lol
Issues aside the Dodge Magnum car sold like hot cakes when it came out, but ironically you NEVER see these cars anymore. Why? Because it was such a pile of crap and they just did not last.
I would say they sold very very few and just a few short years. So you hardly even see them for sale because they are still well liked.
@@auteurfiddler8706 Possibly. I remember when they came out and they were everywhere. I know in my town there is someone with a SRT8 model because I've seen it at the local Wal-Mart a few times over the last year. It is a beautiful car in a really nice red. I'm sure it is super fun to drive.
Reminds me of the PT cruiser. Everywhere when they first came out, can't remember the last time I've seen one in motion
@@gjenkins1660 Great example! That car was the biggest car in the world for about two years. Then people realized it was a pile of shit on wheels and it quickly died out. I see one occasionally but it is very rare.
As soon as you moved that first door my instinct says the whole thing is twisted
The stuck driver's door is caused by worn out hinges. Not a big deal to replace. I had same issue on my Magnum.
Who buys a 250,000 plus miles USED CAR?
I'm actually concerned that this customer was in a bad financial positon and out of desperation to get to work got this from one of the buy here/ pay here places at 30% interest. There are a lot of people that make bad decisions out of ignorance, thinking that they're doing what's best at the time. Only to be taken advantage of in this manner.
Depends really. I got my first car with 235k miles on it for $500. Lasted me two years and it had a clean title, it just looked like crap.
Unless it's a Toyota
I just bought 2001 camry for 1500$ has just over 160 000 miles it was crashed twice and it still runs like a clock
@@cheezuscrust7730 Running well and having the body all twisted to shit that nothing fits are 2 very different things though
Wizard that car never came with hood struts, I know this. You see the hood prop pole attached to the top of the rad support clearly in your video, that is what holds up the hood.
Yea I had a Toyota Camry and Hyundai Elantra that had that instead of the struts I'm surprised wizard of all people didn't notice 😂
@@Dankcatvacs yeah he obviously hates these particular vehicles.. I admit the carrier bearing was a dumb design and uneeded but cheaply and easily fixed.. id love to have this car.
Shhh, he probably did that to get interactions for the RUclips algorithm.
How can a self-proclaimed "wizard " miss something as blatantly obvious as a hood prop rod??
He works on much more expensive vehicles. Normal cars don't seem to be his forte.
It's amazing how many people a shiny paint job can fool.
This reminds me of my old 2004 volvo s40, it was also salvaged, and repaired like this car. One day while driving on the highway, my front fog light fell out, hanging by the wire....it was attached with glue, I feel for this guy !
If you're buying a wrecked Magnum with a quarter of a million miles on it I don't know what else you would expect really.
Hahahaha
It was sold as a car, not a wreck🤦
Whoever rebuilt that car needs to be watching Vehcor….. Scott on that channel does amazing work…. And of course you do as well sir.
Good mechs save customers money. Difficult diagnosis is always expensive though. Mechs struggle with customers who don't understand that
In this particular case, there were a lot of east red flags that a cursory inspection would have found. It’s true that a deep dive on something like what was specifically wrong with the engine would have taken a while.