Snapdragon X Elite vs. Apple M3 Pro Battery Test!

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @gregoryaudet3239
    @gregoryaudet3239 5 месяцев назад +1947

    bro, test the new lenovo it has the same battery as the macbook

    • @emin62bek
      @emin62bek 5 месяцев назад +63

      He Like an Amateur

    • @Djjolly037
      @Djjolly037 5 месяцев назад +360

      @@emin62bekthis is literally the first time he’s testing something other than phones, the tests will get better with time

    • @SaveTheInsects_Team
      @SaveTheInsects_Team 5 месяцев назад +84

      Yes, but that is a massively worse computer. The whole point of this test is to compare Microsoft’s newest chip apple’s This is Microsoft’s first arm based chip, which is supposed to match the MacBooks. That’s why this test was done.

    • @rockerravn
      @rockerravn 5 месяцев назад

      Its qualcoms not Microsofts ​@@SaveTheInsects_Team

    • @amdusa77
      @amdusa77 5 месяцев назад +26

      Why? Microsoft is the owner of windows and therefore it only makes sense to use their hardware

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena 5 месяцев назад +1083

    Now...do the drop test!

    • @raed.gilani
      @raed.gilani 5 месяцев назад +73

      Bro he’s no millionaire or something 😂

    • @nchtblut
      @nchtblut 5 месяцев назад +1

      xd

    • @cosmicreaverkassadin1143
      @cosmicreaverkassadin1143 5 месяцев назад +26

      cringe asf

    • @daddy-w6o5
      @daddy-w6o5 5 месяцев назад +23

      watching phones getting dropped is one thing and watching laptops getting dropped is another, the later hurts more.

    • @Mr-Love-Explain
      @Mr-Love-Explain 5 месяцев назад +6

      No need bro
      No need at allllll

  • @raresborcea
    @raresborcea 5 месяцев назад +191

    A few corrections:
    - The Surface has a smaller screen: this is wrong. The two have very different screen ratios. The MacBook has a 16:10 ratio while the Surface has a 3:2 display, which, considering the diagonals, we end up with 568 cm2 total surface on the MacBook vs 567 cm2 on the Surface. Basically the same, probably 1-2 more cm2 for the Surface, considering the notch on the Mac.
    - The MacBook having a lager battery the two sharing the same footprint: yet the MacBook is a bit over 200 grams/0.46 lbs heavier. The footprint is similar, the weight is different, thus the visibly larger battery.
    Probably, a fairer comparison would be with the 13.6 inches MacBook Air M3, which this 13.8 inches Surface is actually competing with? With similar prices, similar battery sizes (52.6 vs 54 Wh) and a more similar speaker setup? Even though, in that case, the Mac's screen will be 31+ cm2 smaller, the rest of the specs and, especially, the prices align much better than in the current comparison.

    • @bolumstar
      @bolumstar 5 месяцев назад +20

      The fact that you didn't mention the 30% more battery power of the Mac makes it sound biased

    • @MTN1601
      @MTN1601 5 месяцев назад +5

      Remember that 16:10 on MacBook Pro is without the top screen, if we combine that too then it would be close to 3:2

    • @Mr-cr2ob
      @Mr-cr2ob 5 месяцев назад

      🤓🤓🤓

    • @moti9845
      @moti9845 5 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@bolumstarhow does that matter?? He's comparing battery performance not chip efficiency

    • @John7No
      @John7No 5 месяцев назад +5

      actually you are wrong on the first point because the pixels the Mac has to power are more than the Surface

  • @fredrickbambino
    @fredrickbambino 5 месяцев назад +448

    The fact that it has a 30% smaller battery and was still able to keep up is mind boggling.

    • @alvarobaltazar831
      @alvarobaltazar831 5 месяцев назад +51

      se te olvido que tiene pantalla mas pequeña y MUCHO MENOS RESOLUCION, sea objetivo amigo.

    • @Youtubewat6h3rg
      @Youtubewat6h3rg 5 месяцев назад +4

      It's 3nm

    • @MainInternetUser
      @MainInternetUser 5 месяцев назад +95

      ​@@fredrickbambino there is a translate button stop the nonsense

    • @MainInternetUser
      @MainInternetUser 5 месяцев назад +13

      ​@@alvarobaltazar831 you're right he should test the lenovo that also has a 14inch 3k screen, the same 70Wh battery but it's an OLED, even if it's 90Hz it should consime a lot more than Mini-LED

    • @fredrickbambino
      @fredrickbambino 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@MainInternetUser There isn’t one for me.

  • @B.D.F.
    @B.D.F. 5 месяцев назад +527

    Sounds like capping the frame rate would have made things a little more fair. I wonder how a comparison to an M4 MacBook Pro would turn out.

    • @Metamine0
      @Metamine0 5 месяцев назад +58

      Well considering M4 is efficient enough to put into an extremely thin iPad, my guess is an M4 version of the MacBook pro will either have better battery life than previous, or same battery but lower weight and thinner body

    • @hyposlasher
      @hyposlasher 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes

    • @JamilKhan-hk1wl
      @JamilKhan-hk1wl 5 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@Metamine0 it has some overheating issue

    • @nathanross4036
      @nathanross4036 5 месяцев назад +23

      Performance per watt goes to the macbook for sure.

    • @jesse8716
      @jesse8716 5 месяцев назад +19

      Also the smaller battery in the surface makes things more than fair.

  • @rekcck
    @rekcck 5 месяцев назад +524

    where can we (asking for a friend) find those robot hands to scrub the hard to reach areas in the shower?

    • @rohankay8835
      @rohankay8835 5 месяцев назад +67

      I’m gonna make it reach places the light wouldn’t.☺️

    • @XashA12Musk
      @XashA12Musk 5 месяцев назад

      @@rohankay8835💀

    • @JayWillDo
      @JayWillDo 5 месяцев назад +30

      Sure Wolowitz 😂😂

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 5 месяцев назад

      @@rohankay8835 Why do u want to take risk, A small mistake by it can make give regret for ever.

    • @man3389_RealYT
      @man3389_RealYT 4 месяца назад +4

      @@JayWillDo hahahahahaha that I the best comment I have seen in a while. thanks for the laugh. ps I love the show big bang theory

  • @DavidRamirez-vc8dr
    @DavidRamirez-vc8dr 5 месяцев назад +448

    The surface’s design team just decided to make a macbook. Same size trackpad and all

    • @raed.gilani
      @raed.gilani 5 месяцев назад +93

      And.. that’s a good thing

    • @sandenium
      @sandenium 5 месяцев назад +45

      Still couldn't fit the same size battery

    • @DavidRamirez-vc8dr
      @DavidRamirez-vc8dr 5 месяцев назад +34

      @@sandenium more than enough. No one games on macs or should be gaming on productivity laptops

    • @yony120
      @yony120 5 месяцев назад +66

      And, thankfully, they skipped the notch. :)

    • @estiennetaylor1260
      @estiennetaylor1260 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@DavidRamirez-vc8drmacs aren't good at anything but browse the web LOL

  • @nickeno
    @nickeno 5 месяцев назад +81

    Okay this is a bit unfair. You didn't cap the FPS in the game leading to the mac book doing a BUNCH of more work, even touching 100+ fps while the x elite had trouble staying at 30.

    • @tonpicklive
      @tonpicklive 5 месяцев назад +6

      I think this is a setting of the operating system, and not a problem with the laptop. The author should have removed the CPU limit(in power saving mode) in the Windows 11 system settings for a better test.

    • @benthebossjackson4388
      @benthebossjackson4388 4 месяца назад +2

      still that was mostly gaming.. But the Macbook did change to only 7 FPS with the last 5 percent etc... so wasnt completely unfair..
      if this was everyday work the macbook was way behind in battery!

    • @lyte561
      @lyte561 4 месяца назад

      @@benthebossjackson4388 im sure if id rather have 80-100 fps than 20-30 fps but personal choice ig, and i f i really wanted to extend battery id cap the fps to 30 then the mac wouldve probably won

  • @ryanze26
    @ryanze26 5 месяцев назад +19

    this is the best test i've seen, not using benchmarking software to estimate battery longevity, but using robot hand and real world applications, really shows what it can be expected for us to do work in these laptops. kudos! subscribed!

  • @LoverOfTech
    @LoverOfTech 5 месяцев назад +72

    Huge respect for being able to pull this off 🙌🏿

    • @qwertyqwertyu2108
      @qwertyqwertyu2108 5 месяцев назад +3

      Hlo sir you are my favourite black tech youtuber❤ bcz u do things in systematic way❤

  • @mikeylightzx2029
    @mikeylightzx2029 5 месяцев назад +154

    Damn PhoneBuff is testing laptops now. Keep up the amazing work! 🎉

  • @beamboy420
    @beamboy420 5 месяцев назад +130

    Why not the air.. isn’t the MacBook a different segment and much higher price ?

    • @rodolfocamposjimenez2566
      @rodolfocamposjimenez2566 5 месяцев назад +16

      Not to mention they have almost the same battery size.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 5 месяцев назад +42

      Max Tech did MB Air, and the Macbook won easily. He didn't do gaming, which heavily favours the Surface as it has only 33% of the FPS, so the Macs consume far more wattage to achieve that. He said in the video that the Mac would have got 39 mins extra if running the game at the same FPS as the Surface.

    • @innocentanthony3324
      @innocentanthony3324 5 месяцев назад +7

      @@andyH_England the air m1 air actually performed better in some test compared to this macbook pro

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 5 месяцев назад

      @@innocentanthony3324 Yes, the M1 was a fantastic chip, and I bought a couple of MacBook Pro 13s with it in it. Nearly 4 years old and are still going great.

    • @torpedospurs
      @torpedospurs 5 месяцев назад +3

      Definitely should have been the MBA. Screen resolution, screen size, weight, and graphics performance are all closer. Battery size is about the same. To make it even fairer they can switch the Surface display refresh rate down to 60hz.

  • @xperiafan5370
    @xperiafan5370 5 месяцев назад +8

    0:23 That's the mid tier X-Elite chip. Not the top end chip.

  • @salvadorr4727
    @salvadorr4727 5 месяцев назад +373

    What a unique design from Microsoft 😂

    • @aashikameen9280
      @aashikameen9280 5 месяцев назад +32

      😂😂😂 we have never seen this design before yeah.. 😂

    • @jindays
      @jindays 5 месяцев назад +27

      Skipped straight up to the test and had to look twice to see which one is the macbook lmao

    • @tejvarun_Otaku
      @tejvarun_Otaku 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@salvadorr4727 ppl don't care as long as they get to eat the best.

    • @fmax6000
      @fmax6000 5 месяцев назад +15

      Yeah, inspired by the UNIQUE chip design from ex-Apple engineers! lol 😂

    • @YasinHasan
      @YasinHasan 5 месяцев назад

      @@jindays the worse looking one

  • @rubindublone5932
    @rubindublone5932 5 месяцев назад +11

    That's insane! Same battery life with way less battery capacity, sure less power but still probably plenty for daily use

    • @fancy3774
      @fancy3774 5 месяцев назад +2

      And the fact it have a fan and touch screen makes it even more insane.

    • @fabiolindner
      @fabiolindner 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@fancy3774Fan is a minus in my opinion. If good performance can be sustained I prefer the completely quiet operation of a fanless design.

  • @xsAMOR
    @xsAMOR 5 месяцев назад +6

    Both laptops drained their batteries in a six-minute video, while I watched the entire video on my phone without additional charging.

  • @theboomingbomber
    @theboomingbomber 5 месяцев назад +19

    If you do this again, I have a suggestion for the gaming section. Try to cap the framerate to something that both laptops can run so that both laptops are doing the same work.
    Other than that, love the video and I find the results really interesting because I wasn't the X Elite to last nearly as long as it did.

  • @YashK_194
    @YashK_194 5 месяцев назад +88

    Another thing to consider is that the surface pro has touchscreen while the mac doesn't so the surface's screen draws more power

    • @sphexie
      @sphexie 5 месяцев назад +34

      I think it’s negligible

    • @sueside
      @sueside 5 месяцев назад +9

      Yeah, compared to every hardware on the device the touch functionality of the screen is absurdly insignificant in terms of power draw.

    • @YashK_194
      @YashK_194 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@sueside I've checked on multiple sites and all of them say that touchscreens drain more battery and chat gpt also says that touchscreens drain battery 5-15% faster

    • @SA-xf7pc
      @SA-xf7pc 5 месяцев назад +6

      Touch screens on laptop aren’t constantly active so it’s probably irrelevant

    • @froznfire9531
      @froznfire9531 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@SA-xf7pc I mean its gotta be waiting for any activity so it has to be passive active

  • @TenthMarigold
    @TenthMarigold 5 месяцев назад +9

    It would be interesting to see this same test but with their "Power Saver" modes turn on. The Mac's can be crazy efficient when only running on their Efficienty Cores vs how Window's tends to manage it.

    • @nikosnikos6632
      @nikosnikos6632 5 месяцев назад

      I believe the performance cores are also enabled but with GHz limit, i think they're capped around 2,5GHz

    • @user-91291
      @user-91291 5 месяцев назад +3

      surface devices are notoriously good with their energy saver mode compared to other windows laptops

    • @AArch64_Gamer
      @AArch64_Gamer 5 месяцев назад

      @@nikosnikos6632I have an M2 MacBook Pro. Parallels desktop reports out running at 3.2 GHZ without low power mode. With low power mode enabled, it seems to clock down to 2.2 GHZ. It also helps out stay a lot cooler. Without low power mode it gets up to 106 Celsius (very hot on the bottom plate! Plus the thermal paste that Apple uses doesn’t seem to be good quality, when I tried to change it, it was very crusty). With low power mode enabled, it only gets up to 50 Celsius, both measurements in a room temperature environment. I mostly use this laptop for school and 3D modeling. With useable performance, low power mode really limits the performance in Blender, while MS word and Google docs have no performance hit. My surface pro 7 had similar things going on but less effective. I did find one thing though, if you go to mobility center in windows, you can change the power plan to power saver mode, and it clocks down from 1.5 GHZ to 0.86 GHZ. Huge performance hit, but for browsing and word processing, not a big deal. Also HUGE change in temperature.

  • @Lacrua
    @Lacrua 5 месяцев назад +55

    I’d imagine performance would’ve been better if the MacBook Pro was using Safari in the first test since it would be using its own software…

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 5 месяцев назад

      Safari is garbage.

    • @MishMash22
      @MishMash22 5 месяцев назад +8

      So true. Chrome is horrible

    • @doubly_negative
      @doubly_negative 5 месяцев назад +30

      Yes but that wouldn't have been fair cuz most of the people around the world uses Chrome so makes sense to test on it.

    • @arcoks
      @arcoks 5 месяцев назад +10

      Nobody use safari everyone use chrome

    • @MishMash22
      @MishMash22 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@arcoks chrome is nasty. The size of the the app is hundreds of MB. But it looks like bare cupboard.

  • @robertsheltonjr
    @robertsheltonjr 5 месяцев назад +20

    Wow! This is the best "real world" test that I've seen! I am typing this from a (new) Surface Laptop 7. For my personal use case, the battery life is out of this world, in comparison to any Intel-based laptop I've ever owned. Since I am not likely to switch to MacOS, this is a major win for people like me!

    • @PradiptaGitaya
      @PradiptaGitaya 5 месяцев назад +2

      If you want to know the real result of this vid, skip the gaming test, because the macbook doing more job (70 fps) rather than the surface (25+ fps)

    • @robertsheltonjr
      @robertsheltonjr 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@PradiptaGitaya Yeah, I get you. I wouldn't do anything beyond light gaming on an ultrabook, like the Surface. I also wouldn't want the extra weight of the MB Pro, for my uses. It's more powerful than I need for a portable use. I have a desktop for gaming and heavy use case scenarios, b/c it does the best for both, especially AAA gaming. Either way, for someone who would not switch to MacOS, anything close to the battery life of a MacBook is a win!

    • @th3_ne0__
      @th3_ne0__ 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@PradiptaGitayathe frame rate thing shouldn’t matter here, assuming both devices are running at their fullest, this is like comparing a horse and a cheetah, both at their fullest one might run faster, but it can’t run at its full as long as the other.

    • @AArch64_Gamer
      @AArch64_Gamer 5 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve been eyeing the SL7 even as a Mac user. I’m staying with Mac for now. Once windows on arm and its software support improves, I’ll have a hard decision to make. Glad you’re happy with your new laptop!

  • @julianbanks
    @julianbanks 5 месяцев назад +4

    Definitely getting a Surface laptop now..Love your video!

  • @levimoura8086
    @levimoura8086 5 месяцев назад +36

    While the test does show that the Surface has a longer battery life, it's also quite unfair as the workloads were different in some aspects, especially in the gaming round. A framerate cap would've been a better choice for such test

    • @nathanross4036
      @nathanross4036 5 месяцев назад +3

      Exactly. Both used roughly the same amount of power but no consideration was given to the Macbook for delivering far more FPS.

    • @Rusty01
      @Rusty01 5 месяцев назад +20

      if the macbook won, you wouldnt find any reason to defend it. Alot of other battery test on surface show it running emulated apps but no one defends it. emulated apps = more battery used. So pls

    • @TamTam2411
      @TamTam2411 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@nathanross4036 He literally said it in the video

    • @TamasKiss-yk4st
      @TamasKiss-yk4st 5 месяцев назад +2

      @Rusty01 there is nothing to defend.. even the Macbook emulating the same things.. both use double transition layer to run the game, x86 to ARM and DirectX to Vulcan or DirectX to Metal... so why do you think anybody need to defend that, when they are doing the same work there..?

    • @SA-xf7pc
      @SA-xf7pc 5 месяцев назад

      @@nathanross4036 I think it’s important to emphasise how much double or triple the framerate is. A jump from a RTX2070 to a RTX3070 doesn’t have this performance leap and the 3070 is an exemptions card

  • @TechwithTonyUK
    @TechwithTonyUK 5 месяцев назад +3

    Incredible video, great work! As an owner of both MacBook's and the new X Plus surface 7, I am glad to finally see a good bit of competition between the Chip makers, looking good for the future of computers for all of us. Thanks again.

  • @noinghenah2764
    @noinghenah2764 5 месяцев назад +37

    Should we test the battery where 1 device render 23fps, the other is 60-70fps 😂

    • @YasinHasan
      @YasinHasan 5 месяцев назад +9

      yes. this is battery test not performance test 🤡

    • @SS369
      @SS369 5 месяцев назад

      @@YasinHasanum…. What?

  • @zard0y
    @zard0y 5 месяцев назад +2

    PLEASE can you attach the exact build number or is version next time? This is really important

  • @liadp3472
    @liadp3472 5 месяцев назад +3

    Another thing to consider is whether Windows has an ARM based Tomb Raider version because if this is an x86 version, it means the surface is doing those framerates with an emulator and would perform much better with an arm based version.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 5 месяцев назад

      Also, Tomb Raider uses Ray Tracing so that was likely running eating more battery on the Mac. The X Elite has no Ray Tracing.

    • @techzolute
      @techzolute 5 месяцев назад

      It's the emulated version on the Surface.

  • @bobmartin2513
    @bobmartin2513 5 месяцев назад +1

    3:09 Why do them have different time? About 30 minutes of difference!

  • @mohammeds9915
    @mohammeds9915 5 месяцев назад +85

    The Surface kicked its ass, given the 30% difference in battery size.

    • @209kranthi
      @209kranthi 5 месяцев назад +47

      Yeah, with a lower screen resolution, worse speakers and a less powerful processor giving you a much lower frame rate.

    • @Arjun69K
      @Arjun69K 5 месяцев назад +32

      ​@@209kranthi54wh vs 70wh ...throw all that excuses out of the window

    • @oxyg3n520
      @oxyg3n520 5 месяцев назад +32

      @@209kranthi That resolution/speaker difference is almost negligible compared to a drastic 30% battery size discrepancy lmao. What are you on about.

    • @syedshahrukhraza2923
      @syedshahrukhraza2923 5 месяцев назад +15

      @@oxyg3n520the surface had 40% less resolution and 50% less speaker quality.
      Soo just stop lying.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 5 месяцев назад +4

      He said that if the Mac had performed as poorly as the Surface in gaming, it would have lasted 40 minutes longer. Looking at the far superior speakers, if you had used the inferior Surface speakers on the Mac, that would have been at least another 20 minutes extra for the Mac.
      I conclude that the Mac has only 7 min less runtime, but the benefit of superior GPU, speakers, larger screen and display brightness gives the Mac a very easy win.

  •  5 месяцев назад

    “Macbook has the same foot print while having 40% bigger battery”
    Macbook being twice thicker 😂 anyways good job with the video!

  • @MrElectrifyer
    @MrElectrifyer 5 месяцев назад +12

    Awesome battery comparison man!
    Change the channel name to PCBuff, all Phones, Laptops/Macbooks, Desktops/iMacs & Tablets/iPad are PCs (Personal Computers).

  • @andreylucass
    @andreylucass 5 месяцев назад +2

    They promised a performance similar to the default M3 on a MacBook Air and delivered a performance similar to the M3 Pro on a MacBook Pro wow

    • @fabiolindner
      @fabiolindner 5 месяцев назад

      Power definitely isn’t on par but it’s great that there are finally windows laptops that can compete with Apple now.
      The apple-esque design of the surface also looks good to me.

  • @richi2870
    @richi2870 5 месяцев назад +89

    Wow surface pro 7 nailed it with 54Wh vs 70Wh 😅

    • @alexs.5107
      @alexs.5107 5 месяцев назад

      Amazing

    • @Raja995mh33
      @Raja995mh33 5 месяцев назад +38

      the M3 Pro is a MUCH more powerful chip tho.
      This comparison is just weird. He should've used the 13" MBA with M3 for that.
      The M3 Pro basically demolishes the X Elite in most tasks, ESPECIALLY in everything that is graphics related.

    • @52incredible
      @52incredible 5 месяцев назад +11

      yeah, it is a stupid comparision and still the snapdragon won. what a victory.

    • @PradiptaGitaya
      @PradiptaGitaya 5 месяцев назад +17

      Well 25fps game vs 70fps game

    • @innocentanthony3324
      @innocentanthony3324 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@Raja995mh33 it has a gpu and the one in the x elite is not recognised by any software yet(not sure if it even has a gpu) and that's the top of the line x elite, we don't just have one x elite chip

  • @mikewhite955
    @mikewhite955 3 месяца назад

    That was a really useful test, thank you! :)

  • @aleandre1974
    @aleandre1974 5 месяцев назад +1

    A vital piece of information is missing from this video (or I didn't catch it): What power plan was the Surface laptop 7 running on ? Recommended ? Better performance ? Best Performance ? These have an impact on battery life and performance. Could you please update ? Otherwise, great job !

  • @mastroitek
    @mastroitek 5 месяцев назад +5

    nice to see you are starting to test laptops. Would be nice if next time you also mention what power budget and profile is active on the devices. Also a final normalized (on battery size) battery score would be nice

  • @Andrew_10
    @Andrew_10 5 месяцев назад

    Been watching your content since the iphone 6s came out, happy to see all the improvements since then. Great video.

  • @mohamedshuaib6452
    @mohamedshuaib6452 5 месяцев назад +3

    We got Laptop tests before GTA 6! Exceptional!!!

  • @justronny20
    @justronny20 5 месяцев назад +2

    0:19 Does this mean you compared the 18gb/512gb macbook pro with the 32gb/1TB surface laptop? Because those are the only configurations that cost $2000.

    • @PhoneBuff
      @PhoneBuff  5 месяцев назад +1

      Correct.

    • @justronny20
      @justronny20 5 месяцев назад +1

      In that case it seems the surface offers quite a bit of value over the macbook. Double the storage, nearly double the ram and slightly better battery performance with a significantly smaller battery. Performance is definitely better on the macbook, but that might be down to optimizations needed for the X Elite chip. Plus it doesn't throttle at all which is a bonus!

  • @tejvarun_Otaku
    @tejvarun_Otaku 5 месяцев назад +63

    54Wh VS 70WH and still someone died 💀

    • @12Nervu
      @12Nervu 5 месяцев назад +9

      „Bigger resolution“ remember it?

    • @mumbakayoba3082
      @mumbakayoba3082 5 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@12Nervu😂

    • @mumbakayoba3082
      @mumbakayoba3082 5 месяцев назад +12

      Imagine if the surface had that big battery 😂

    • @Prakyy
      @Prakyy 5 месяцев назад +14

      @@12Nervu yeah and a 30% bigger battery 🤦‍♂. Windows wins hands down

    • @elloygarcia8155
      @elloygarcia8155 5 месяцев назад +24

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@Prakyy Macbook pushed 3~4x more FPS in gaming with higher resolution than the dinky suface laptop, ofc it will use more power 🤦‍♂️
      The higher the resolution the harder the laptop has to work. Imagine if the Surface pushed the same fps and resolution as the macbook, then thats a whole different story

  • @cmejia316
    @cmejia316 5 месяцев назад +2

    Why not use edge for windows and safari for the Mac?

    • @hanes2
      @hanes2 5 месяцев назад

      this isn't a battery test. Safari too optimized to preserve battery /s

    • @cmejia316
      @cmejia316 5 месяцев назад +1

      But it is a battery test. Wouldn’t edge be just as optimized for the windows computer?

  • @XaviSanz35
    @XaviSanz35 5 месяцев назад +2

    The first decent review about Snapdragon laptops 👍

  • @Lecon128
    @Lecon128 5 месяцев назад

    3:13 Copyrighted Movie, no need to blur it because there is a Copyright Exception called Fair Use.

  • @mariokartfan8784
    @mariokartfan8784 5 месяцев назад +22

    Snapdragon X elite 🔥

  • @Pikachiku21
    @Pikachiku21 5 месяцев назад +1

    consider that this MacBook has gone through a lot of charging cycles where the surface is brand new with a fresh battery

  • @Justice_Akbr
    @Justice_Akbr 5 месяцев назад +3

    This guy is apple fan, he didn't mentioned that the Snapdragon X Elite won as when apple products last longer in other videos. I know he will say that surface laptop don't deserved because it suck in all categories but since it was about battery test he should be proud of it.

    • @kevy_.
      @kevy_. 5 месяцев назад +2

      i think you need to reevaluate your mindset in life it’s not that deep bro

  • @skies1586
    @skies1586 5 месяцев назад +14

    The copilot button on surface made my left eye twitch more than care to admit!

  • @productfeedback
    @productfeedback 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is an awesome test and video. Thanks for sharing and your patience.

  • @petrkubena
    @petrkubena 5 месяцев назад +11

    One note - Apple is known NOT to have linear battery status. Dropping from 100% to 90% takes longer than from 90% to 80% (they want give you the feeling that it last longer than it really does). At least that's the case with iphones. You may want to test this with macbooks

    • @whitecrowuk575
      @whitecrowuk575 5 месяцев назад +2

      On iPhone yes on MacBooks no

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 5 месяцев назад +2

      I have used Macbooks for years and that is untrue. It is completely linear.

    • @tullo5564
      @tullo5564 5 месяцев назад

      100% agreed.
      Seen it on my iPhones and iPads

    • @ASEM-1123
      @ASEM-1123 5 месяцев назад

      Can confirm they do it on MacBooks. coconut battery tracks real % and it's often 3-5% lower than the displayed percentage.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@ASEM-1123 Apple generally underrates the capacity, which changes the algorithms. For example, iPhones usually have 3-5% larger batteries than stated, so it takes longer to get below 100%.

  • @Crustenscharbap
    @Crustenscharbap 5 месяцев назад

    The Test was made very professional. Thanks.
    The Video Call AI background on Surface is insane!

  • @sifatulrabbi1967
    @sifatulrabbi1967 5 месяцев назад +8

    great comparison.

  • @sapiensuniversal
    @sapiensuniversal 5 месяцев назад

    Best tech comparison videos ever dude keep on that

  • @JohnnyStrides
    @JohnnyStrides 5 месяцев назад +3

    This just shows how utterly stupid that notch is on the Macbook since it doesn't even offer a secure face unlock and the Windows machine does. Steve Jobs would be rolling in his grave if he saw this kind of design language infused into Apple products 🤮

  • @bloggingcapital
    @bloggingcapital Месяц назад

    Now That Is A Real Tech Video.
    Tired Of Unboxing Only Tech RUclipsrs 😂

  • @SatanDotExe
    @SatanDotExe 5 месяцев назад +11

    The final test is actually so stupid.

  • @tonywong8134
    @tonywong8134 5 месяцев назад +1

    One thing: just because both laptops drop the same percentage points does not mean they performed identically. Quite the contrary actually.

  • @siddharthkrishna9418
    @siddharthkrishna9418 5 месяцев назад +4

    Now this is what's new

  • @EnricoSechi
    @EnricoSechi 5 месяцев назад

    What was the difference with the fan? Did the MacBook stay fanless during the low energy tasks or they were similar?

  • @shabadgarg3486
    @shabadgarg3486 5 месяцев назад +26

    Vote for macbook drop test

    • @DustyKing
      @DustyKing 5 месяцев назад +5

      Vote for windows laptop drop test

    • @u.a.nugroho
      @u.a.nugroho 5 месяцев назад +1

      Vote for MacBook drown test..

    • @DustyKing
      @DustyKing 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@u.a.nugroho vote for windows water test.

  • @EthanBB
    @EthanBB 5 месяцев назад +1

    MIght be worth capping the framerate to something both devices can deliver for future tests.

  • @jackkelly7884
    @jackkelly7884 5 месяцев назад +9

    Snapdragon x Elite does not have an efficiency course and is so efficient and yet it doesn't have an efficiency course compared to the M3.
    Well that is something.
    Good job phone buff

    • @Labib-dw1lk
      @Labib-dw1lk 5 месяцев назад +5

      Course?

    • @theodorboon
      @theodorboon 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@Labib-dw1lk think he meant core

    • @soragranda
      @soragranda 5 месяцев назад +1

      He choose similar price wise, which is what matters here.

    • @Silent.killer_007
      @Silent.killer_007 5 месяцев назад

      Well if u close the lid and leave it for 8-10hours it doesn't use a lot of battery, it only loses like 1-2% just like macbook.
      So it's fine even with no efficiency cores. 2nd generation of x elite will definitely have efficiency cores i hope.

    • @kalle5548
      @kalle5548 5 месяцев назад

      Note that in the first part when browsing the web, the MAC was probably primarily using E cores, and it was pulling way ahead

  • @kevinnguyen163
    @kevinnguyen163 5 месяцев назад +1

    Love your unique setup for the test.

  • @hyposlasher
    @hyposlasher 5 месяцев назад +9

    Finally some real life battery test

  • @andreluke-q7s
    @andreluke-q7s 4 месяца назад

    for the gaming loop, can you cap macbook at 30fps? it probably gets a lot more juice by doing so, probably last a significant longer

  • @ultraviolet2497
    @ultraviolet2497 5 месяцев назад +12

    You sound pissed that the mac lost lmao

    • @aiden19
      @aiden19 5 месяцев назад +7

      Exactly, these fan boys of macbook always gets triggered by windows or android when they do things better

    • @lasue7244
      @lasue7244 5 месяцев назад +4

      yeah lol. I can see him trying to be unbaised but he definitely didn't liked that the mac lost. Him trying to make excuse on why Mac was on disadvantage was cringe. Not only was it not in disadvantage, it was favoured. Had bigger battery, the game tested has Mac native arm port and was running via emulation on windows

    • @defnotatroll
      @defnotatroll 5 месяцев назад +1

      yeah so many caveats and excuses for the Mac. His phone tests are usually more unbiased but this to me sounded very fanboyish. I had liked the video at first then I took my like back lol

    • @Honamiichinose
      @Honamiichinose 5 месяцев назад

      Lol yeah lost with 3x more performance.

  • @serpentree
    @serpentree 5 месяцев назад

    i think it would be super interesting if you would do a comparison about music genres, like testing on the same phone genres with more bass/drums and testing one with more chill music for example to see if different sounds change on battery drainage

  • @lawrenceokagbue6768
    @lawrenceokagbue6768 5 месяцев назад +3

    You are just trying to defend tha MacBook mr man

    • @YasinHasan
      @YasinHasan 5 месяцев назад +2

      yeah that was pathetic 😂 mkbhd does that too when iphones loose every year in camera test

    • @Honamiichinose
      @Honamiichinose 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@YasinHasan 25 fps vs 70 fps snapgay fanboy.

  • @a4andrei
    @a4andrei 5 месяцев назад

    Considering the difference in battery capacity, the snapdragon is quite impressive. I didn't expect it to be as fine tuned or optimized as the M series chipsets from Apple, since it's a 1st gen product. But this is looking very promising indeed.

  • @tristenwilliams558
    @tristenwilliams558 5 месяцев назад +3

    You should've done the Samsung book 4 edge with the SDXE 84100 chip its the flagship version of the SDXE

  • @inamulbhuyan
    @inamulbhuyan 5 месяцев назад +14

    Snapdragon X Elite 🔋🔋💪🔥

    • @dukerex1285
      @dukerex1285 5 месяцев назад +2

      @Masterchief84189 im pretty sure thats due to the new x64 emulation thats gonna get sorted out

    • @abdul_wahab0
      @abdul_wahab0 5 месяцев назад +1

      It's trash ngl

    • @PradiptaGitaya
      @PradiptaGitaya 5 месяцев назад

      @@dukerex1285I am not sure when it comes to gaming... Macbook has their own GPU cores integrated within the chip. Meanwhile the Qualcom does not as far as I know

    • @dukerex1285
      @dukerex1285 5 месяцев назад

      @Masterchief84189 who knows, maybe now they have a good Arm chip for their surfaces they will invest a lot more into their translator

  • @njsfer
    @njsfer 5 месяцев назад +1

    I'd be interested in seeing a comparison between the two in productivity software like Lightroom, Photoshop, video editing...
    Testing the speed and the battery.
    About the GPU performance, how are we in terms of GPU drivers support for the Snapdragon? It should perform better that it did.

  • @judenjilah7996
    @judenjilah7996 5 месяцев назад +5

    At the default low power mode, the Snapdragon can last 2 times longer

    • @mikebalentine
      @mikebalentine 5 месяцев назад +3

      Both have the ability to last way longer if the user is smart. Such as better browser choice, lowering to 1080p resolution, Bluetooth speakers, brightness etc.
      In the goal to be exactly the same it becomes a less real world representation.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 5 месяцев назад +1

      I have the Surface Pro X Elite, and its battery life is about half that of my MB Air 15 M2 when both are in power-saving mode. Still trying to figure out how you are getting these SOTs.

    • @NissanSkylineR32GTR
      @NissanSkylineR32GTR 4 месяца назад

      @@andyH_England My Omnibook X lasts for 30+ hours

  • @daveh6356
    @daveh6356 5 месяцев назад

    Kind of interesting but what power management settings did you have each on & were they consistently applied through all tests? For this kind of test, I'd say that was pretty essential information.

  • @jishnudeepkar4354
    @jishnudeepkar4354 5 месяцев назад +3

    The frame rate was because of non native games. So technically, it was still pushing the chipset to its max by emulating. You should have tried a native game

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 5 месяцев назад

      MS says that emulation is so good that there is barely any difference compared to native performance. Dave2D said 11% emulation cost. That would only make the Surface 33FPS compared to 90FPS on the Mac. Not sure you can make that excuse.

    • @arvandvarahram
      @arvandvarahram 5 месяцев назад

      @andyH_England Dave said 11% emulation cost but he didn't say battery cost. Besides that, the 11% does not translate to FPS. The significantly higher FPS means that the grafic card was used mainly which means much less power drain.

  • @rebel8481
    @rebel8481 5 месяцев назад

    Is it just me or is the Surface a look a like MacBook without the notch 😂😂

  • @AHMED-99996
    @AHMED-99996 5 месяцев назад +4

    Why not the m3
    Or m3 max?

    • @PhoneBuff
      @PhoneBuff  5 месяцев назад +8

      Equivalently priced at $2000.

  • @AbdullahDarwish
    @AbdullahDarwish 5 месяцев назад

    I've been waiting for this test to see if the X Elite is efficent or not, Turns out it is. Thank you very much.

  • @OscarZhou511
    @OscarZhou511 5 месяцев назад +7

    This is such an unfair test. 😂

    • @EverRusting
      @EverRusting 4 месяца назад +5

      Yup one car drives 200mph and other drives 20mph and 20mph car is given the award because it lasted longer. Like unreal levels of facepalm.

    • @benthebossjackson4388
      @benthebossjackson4388 4 месяца назад

      if on gaming maybe.. everything else the surface pro was way better... if the surface pro had the same amount on battery size as the macbook it would of won easily. the macbook ran higher FPS but every day working on it failed... even with bigger battery

  • @avalons343
    @avalons343 5 месяцев назад +1

    Should this not have been against the MacBook air?

  • @leonmadara3903
    @leonmadara3903 5 месяцев назад +5

    it has a larger battery and dies first and is WAY more expensive...

    • @leonardodavidariasruiz
      @leonardodavidariasruiz 5 месяцев назад

      He used same price models

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 5 месяцев назад +2

      The Mac performs much better in speakers and FPS in gaming, which anyone with technical know-how understands will drain the battery faster. Having less battery but 3X FPS and 2X better speakers is an easy win for the Mac!
      BIG deals on Amazon now mean the prices are the same with the same spec.

    • @rbh2na
      @rbh2na 5 месяцев назад

      @@andyH_England gaming and mac huh 🤣🤣

    • @propersod2390
      @propersod2390 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@leonardodavidariasruizto reach the same price he had to fully max out the surface while using the base model macbook. And the main things that actually get maxed out in that config are storage and ram, the soc isn't even the fastest X elite chip. The screen is also an oled

    • @davout5775
      @davout5775 5 месяцев назад

      And it is way more useful

  • @dashtar
    @dashtar 5 месяцев назад

    Almost forgot this channel and then RUclips recommended me this video.

  • @augustobob
    @augustobob 5 месяцев назад +3

    I don’t like these kind of battery tests because the chosen applications directly affects the result, making it possible to choose the winner before the test starts.

    • @njsfer
      @njsfer 5 месяцев назад +3

      This is as fair as it can be. How would you do a fairar comparison?

    • @lalhimpuiamahima7319
      @lalhimpuiamahima7319 5 месяцев назад +4

      Poeple don’t like it if their favourite don’t win.

    • @salvatoredemasi9459
      @salvatoredemasi9459 5 месяцев назад

      TF is this comment??😂

    • @augustobob
      @augustobob 5 месяцев назад

      @@lalhimpuiamahima7319 people suppose what do they want, my fav is xelite.

    • @augustobob
      @augustobob 5 месяцев назад

      @@njsfer idk man, some machines are better at certain tasks others don't, maybe comparing the battery life idling could be fairer.

  • @freddywayne
    @freddywayne 5 месяцев назад

    This is the test that I've been waiting for! Finally, the new ARM chips in CoPilot+ Windows netbooks/notebooks have closed the gap against ARM-based M1/M2/M3 MacBook Air/Pro.

  • @karansethia1037
    @karansethia1037 5 месяцев назад +9

    I dont understand why people even think a windows laptop could even come close to a macbook. I switched to a mac and it is a totally different world. Putting aside the fact that any unix based os beats windows, the build quality of mac is totally amazing

    • @VAKZ23
      @VAKZ23 5 месяцев назад +2

      Im a windows guy, but as long as your not gaming and just gone with some office stuff, the damn M1 MBA or even the M2, MBP was still compelling to be quite honest, I have bought a macbook air M1, way back 2021, and man I thought I'll just hold the value and resell it once the GPU prices back then normalized, hell I got really fond of it and still use it to this day sometimes on more hours than any windows machine Im using, just browsing, office works, man this thing can even sketchup and autocad pretty well, but again, dont expect gaming on this thang haha.. this little guy can last you a day with the use I mentioned.

    • @rayawira
      @rayawira 5 месяцев назад +1

      "... why people even think a windows laptop could even come close to a macbook". Followed by the video showing us the windows laptop indeed beating macbook in a battery test. Keep in mind that this is still first gen, and it has smaller battery.

    • @leonardodavidariasruiz
      @leonardodavidariasruiz 5 месяцев назад

      @@rayawira Take into consideration the resolution, speakers and performance, not even close to the macbook, you need to accept that "MICROSOFT" laptops (im not talking about other brands) are trash, and I have both and I regret buying de Microsoft one

    • @rayawira
      @rayawira 5 месяцев назад

      @@leonardodavidariasruiz I saw a lot of excuses. Small nitpicks

    • @weil46
      @weil46 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@rayawira also its not optimized yet and its using a translate layer, of course it will be some performance hits, and people say mac mac maac!!! Really stupid, yes the mac is good bcuz its own optimization only!! So if they can optimize the windows for arm yes it will have a big shot to win.

  • @DanielHarrisCodes
    @DanielHarrisCodes 5 месяцев назад

    Cool way you execute your tests. Did you emulate Chrome or get the ARM native version for the Surface Laptop 7?

  • @darluok23
    @darluok23 4 месяца назад

    Have you used edge or chrome for the first browsing test?

  • @ItsShahed17
    @ItsShahed17 4 месяца назад +1

    I want to see this test again in 1 year when the Surface's battery becomes 200% sh*t

    • @DSN262
      @DSN262 4 месяца назад

      You the right amount of upset about this 😂

  • @308snipa
    @308snipa 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video bro, you should do more laptop comparisons.

  • @PradiptaGitaya
    @PradiptaGitaya 5 месяцев назад

    One thing I am curious, is the game even run natively on mac? Because Rosetta emulation on Mac often giving the small performance differences between native and emulated programs, and barely noticeable for daily usages

  • @TySchmidt
    @TySchmidt 3 месяца назад

    I'd love to see this same test done again in 6 months after the first few optimization updates drop. I'd expect a lot better battery and maybe some performance gains

  • @The_To101
    @The_To101 5 месяцев назад

    This is a great comparison. Would love to see more videos of laptop testing.

  • @davidbarker7091
    @davidbarker7091 4 месяца назад

    The back handed compliments in these videos for anything other than Apple devices are just wild.

  • @AmanSingh-nw7lw
    @AmanSingh-nw7lw 5 месяцев назад

    The Snapdragon ARM based chips in it's debut are almost equal to M3 chips in performance, can't wait for new ARM based chips in the future

  • @MacgyverFreitas
    @MacgyverFreitas 5 месяцев назад

    In the early years, what will define whether Windows on ARM is viable is how well the apps are optimized for this architecture, for games I think it will take a long time

  • @phungleyen2730
    @phungleyen2730 5 месяцев назад

    so so long time to not see any Windows laptop defeat Macbook in battery test,.... until this video. Amazing Qualcomm Inc.

  • @adamstrange3155
    @adamstrange3155 5 месяцев назад +1

    Is tomb raider on windows, x86_64 only? So it would be running through Microsoft Prism emulation layer?

    • @gabrielangel1996
      @gabrielangel1996 5 месяцев назад

      Yes

    • @adamstrange3155
      @adamstrange3155 5 месяцев назад

      @@gabrielangel1996 I’m wondering if a native version of the game would have a higher frame rate and drain the battery quicker

    • @gabrielangel1996
      @gabrielangel1996 5 месяцев назад

      @@adamstrange3155 The fps will increase for sure, but i dont see the battery changing. The GPU of the x-elite is very poor.

    • @adamstrange3155
      @adamstrange3155 5 месяцев назад

      @@gabrielangel1996 pushing more frames in the same amount of time would use more energy so I’m sure it would. Just not as much as the MacBook if the gpu in the snapdragon is weaker

    • @gabrielangel1996
      @gabrielangel1996 5 месяцев назад

      @@adamstrange3155 no it won't, the CPU on emulation is doing its hardest job it can. But when using emulation and games even tho GPU and CPU are doing their maximum, it cannot deliver more FPS. A game on arm will use the same power or less. Apple lost because it has more GPU cores.

  • @HaruNg3729
    @HaruNg3729 5 месяцев назад +1

    The game is emulated on Windows, so the Snapdragon needs more resource to work on with it, but still drains less battery

  • @kevinhernandezarango5005
    @kevinhernandezarango5005 5 месяцев назад

    Which color is the MacBook Pro? Space Gray or space black?

  • @asdqqq846
    @asdqqq846 5 месяцев назад

    Thats a very cool example. Hope when more programs (development, video editing, ...) are arm native you can do this test with some compiling stuff and video editing and then some exporting.
    And a tip add some corner brackets or somthing in case you have to pick the laptop up, for whatever reason like closing it like in the video, you can put it in the exact same location and dont screw your robot because it is aligned every so slightly different.

  • @ArminSteiner
    @ArminSteiner 5 месяцев назад +2

    What all of those compare Videos don’t take into account. If you are invested in a Eco System you are not jumping ship just because the other guy is a little faster. I for my part love the seamless integration of all my Apple devices, something Microsoft just does not have.
    Choose what suits you best but don’t be a fanboy or girl, cause in the end those are multi billion companies that are interested in your money first and foremost.