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The injustice that this film didn't get nominated for an Oscar. All of the performances were excellent. I cried my eyes out by the time the movie was over. On another note: I think it's impossible to cast anyone as Ric Flair. Nobody says WHOOO!!! around here but the Nature Boy.
i think the Flair performance was interesting. his behavior was accurate but it just wasnt Ric Flair in his face or voice. He didnt phone it in though, he was really trying. And i hope Effron doesnt get discouraged by not getting much award recognition. He can have a long successful career if he brings this same dedication to his future roles
good reaction, love your background knowledge and respect for the sport! Kevin's sons Marshall and Ross became wrestlers, and interestingly Kerry did also have a family that wasn't in the film. I think he went through a divorce at some point, but he had 2 daughters, one of which went on to professionally wrestle under the name Lacey Von Erich! also unfortunately not included in the film was yet ANOTHER Von Erich brother, Chris, who also wrestled and also passed away under similarly tragic circumstances, but reportedly the filmmakers decided another death would be too much for the story and audience... personally I think it's sadder to not include one of them when they were all so close.
Their deaths hit me, especially Kerry's 😭 The ending scene of the brothers meeting each other in the afterlife was very sweet and rough to get through. Kevin with his kids end scene was so sad but bittersweet. Also I heard that the director told Zac to not cry until the last day of filming, which was the last scene with the kids. You could literally feel that raw emotion. Also the song, "Live That Way Forever" playing in the background was the same song Mike was singing at his first gig, so it hit me even more harder and even through the credits. I was such a sobbing mess in the theater 😂
Good catch on MJF. He had a bigger part that was cut down a good bit. He quickly plays “Lance” Von Erich. When David was gone, Mike was struggling and Kerry was recovering from the accident, Fritz found an unknown guy and tried to make him into another Von Erich. MJF played the part in the movie.
I'm from Denton Texas, still live there. I was 12 yrs old outside the church at David's funeral in 1984. There were thousands outside with me. This is Von Erich mecca
Watched this in the theater with my brother. We both shed a few tears, it’s such a good movie! I can’t wait to own it, everyone did a great job! I wish this movie was getting more buzz with awards shows.
@@sergiomedina7960They were actually friends, he was also a friend of the family but I haven’t seen him since 2007. I knew him before he started having mental issues. I was surprised to hear what happened recently but he was always a good friend to us anyway.
It’s so cool how knowledgeable you are about the sport and the history. This was a great reaction from you both! That “I used to be a brother line” destroyed me because I’m the youngest of 3 older sisters.
Kevin did have a title match against Ric Flair where he didn't let go of the Iron Claw and got himself disqualified but it happened way earlier in real life. I think it was the 2nd Parade of Champions event a year or so after Kerry had beaten Ric for the title, and prior to Kerry losing his foot.
To Denise it was known as The WWF in 1990. The company was forced to change the name to WWE in 2002 after losing a case to the World Wildlife Foundation.
Grew up just outside of Ft Worth. Watching the Von Erichs wrestle was such a big deal. This is truly such a heartbreaking story. Even though I saw this when it came out, I was bawling my eyes out right along with you both. The line where he says, He used to be a brother and now he is not even a brother, must be some of the saddest words ever said.
the main thing that Kevin has said he don't like that wasn't true visually and depicted in the movie was the way his Dad was depicted.... the whole depiction of his dad was the personal opinion and viewpoint of the director and Writer of this movie Sean Durkin...where it wasn't a Curse and all of the blame for everything is all on the Father.
I can't believe that they left out Chris Von Erich in the movie. He was the youngest brother. He killed his self in 91 by shooting his self in the head
It’s because it would be too much for the movie both in amount of trauma for the audience, and run time. He was left out because of storytelling, Kerry and mikes portrayal in the movie has a bit of Chris’s story mixed in.
Great reaction! I've been watching pro wrestling since the mid 80's and was a huge fan of World Class and the Von Erichs. I really enjoyed the film, aside from a few casting and creative decisions. In retrospect, I think their story would have worked better as a limited series on HBOMAX or another streaming service.
After viewing the movie Kevin said that the one thing, he didn't like was how his father Fritz was depicted. He understood from a story perspective that they needed an antagonist of some sort, but Kevin describes his dad as "a decent and honorable man." Now Fritz wasn't a saint by any means, but if Kevin who would have every reason to hate his father for what happened to the family doesn't hate him, I think it says a lot. Either about how forgiving Kevin is or what his father was like. Kevin blames mostly the substance and drug abuse more than anything for what happened to his family.
Yes, that was MJF, and he was playing Lance Von Erich who was the kayfabe cousin to the brothers to help out, but everyone knew he wasn't related to the Von Erich's in any way. Which actually ended up hurting the business even more.
Mike was always closest to Kerry and Kerry found a way to incorporate Mike's love of music into the other brothers wrestling. Kerry would use the songs mike loved as his intro music, and after Kerry's accident Mike felt like he HAD to get in the ring to hold Kerry's place
Brain Cancer to answer why their dad was an ass at some points especially late he was even going to kill Kevin " If you had any guts like your brothers you'd kill yourself too" - Fritz to Kevin when he had Kerry's gun on Kevin [ Kevin stated this] Kevin left because in his words" I'm not letting cancer decide whether i live or die" Kevin's biggest gripe about the movie is... they made his dad look mean.. even with all that tragedy he still loved his dad like all the boys.
yup i heard Kevin say that lots of parent were like this growing up in his time. alot of tough love and push the kids real hard. Happy to see that he isnt defined by his tragedy. Every time i see him interviewed he has a very kind and humble attitude, especially in contrast to many other wrestlers of his generation
Seeing this reaction makes me want you to react to Clouds (Disney film). It’s nothing similar but my your tears reminded me of how much I bawled out during that movie.
Another thing the movie got incorrect. Fritz and a business partner owned 60% of WCCW and Kevin and Kerry owned 40%. It was Fritz and his partner that sold the WCCW to Jerry Jarrett and Kevin was the one who tried to fight the sale.
One part at the end messed things up for me. Kevin didn't bring Kerry's dead body into the house and lay him on a table. Who would do that? Also, Mike started wrestling before David died.
Great reaction it's always nice to hear someone who watches wrestling take on things and giving knowledge. Have you guys ever watched any of the dark side of the rings? Would y'all be interested in watching any of those because they have some really good ones. There's one on Bruiser Brody and Gino Hernandez who were also shown briefly in the movie.
Very nice reaction. I think it's a good movie on the Von Erichs but it could have been great, if they included Chris and also didn't go with the family's washed version of history, because by all accounts, David died from an OD or a lethal mix. The Von Erichs were also cannabis farmers, and because they were so famous, the police turned a blind eye to that, which essentially gave them a monopoly in the area. Many wrestlers often preferred going to BTW (Big Time Wrestling as was the name pre 1982) and WCCW because they knew they could pick up large quantities without problems. That boosted the finance of the promotion. Kerry only wrestled in the WWF between July 1990 and August 1992. He then joined ECW for one match. For most of the time Kerry was in WWF, he was so "medicated" that he often didn't know where he was and he often greeted wrestlers 3-12 times before a show, because he forgot he had already seen them that night. He once tied a chair to his boot and walked out to the ring with it, not noticing. All the brothers were famous/infamous for their excessive amounts of drugs they did, or at least the effect it had on them. Many wrestlers have spoken about how Kevin was also so high that he was almost unreachable until the match was about to start. It's also important to note that Kerry was also part owner together with Kevin between 88-90. David and Kevin were also bookers in the early days of the promotion. Kevin continued as a booker. Kevin decided to try to make WCCW compete with WWF, but by that time, the financial situation was worse. Business was going slow, and the word is that the cannabis farming had been put to a stop or at least cut down in size. I wish they stayed more true to the story and timelines. They could have added an hour or made it into a mini-series. That would have given them time to really flesh out the story. For example, the storyline that pushed the Von Erichs to the national spotlight is not in the movie. However, I love the movie for what it is, and there's some very cool wrestling scenes with nice nostalgia. I remember the day I got the news that Kerry had committed suicide. It happened juat weeks after a relative had ended their life. I was only 8 at the time, but I remember it so well. The movie and story hits hard for me, as it does to a lot of people who have had many close ones end their life's too soon. With time, unfortunately, the heart grows kinda cold as a response to that.
MJF in the movie is playing Lance Von Erich, with the others hurt, Fritz thought they needed another Von Erich, so he hired some local wrestler and claimed he was Lance Von Erich the boys Cousin.
The movie certainly alludes to the divorce between Fritz and his wife but doesnt clearly state it, which I find odd. They also omit Fritz's brain cancer, which is a big reason he was such a mess by the late state. The movie also omits all run ins the brothers had with the Law, such as Kerry crashing into a parked cop car and staring down the barrel of a lengthy prison sentence for drug offenses when he died. Everything said, I loved the movie and hope theyll make more like it.
This was actually the only real world title that has existed in pro wrestling. It was officially defended in many of the worlds countries, where wrestling was popular and NWA had affiliated promotions. There were alao unofficial defenses made in countries where wrestling wasn't as big but where some promotions might have toured one or two times.
@@LeviAckerman-cb5ji It was also unofficially defended in sweden too, in an arena with around 300 in the audience, waay back. People had absolutely no idea what pro wrestling was. Many thought they were going to see unsanctioned boxing. But yeah, that belt was defended all over the globe.
@FanPops Kevin had no input in the film at all. The director made erhe film without consulting him and although Kevin liked the film two things he hated were the way his dad was depicted as a terrible father which is far from the truth, and also the fact his youngest brother Chris also killed himself but was left out the film entirely due to time restraints and the director felt one more death was too just too much for the audience. I love the film but u agree with Kevin. His dad loved his boys and was strict but no more so than any other southern father was. In fact if you see the last interview he did shortly before he lost his battle to brain cancer he gets very emotional when talking qbout his boys. Jack Jr, David, Mike, Chris and Kerry. Imagine burying 5 of your 6 children. Kevin is a testament to the endurance of the human spirit
Well she’s clueless because this guy is talking and spoiling the whole movie like if he kept his mouth shut about some stuff it would awnser the question she had.
Wow, that was a tough one. The movie is beautifully done, which is very rare these days. Reminds me a bit of the Bell brothers' story. Von Erich Sr. what a piece of sht...
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The real story is even sadder. Kevin in reality found the youngest brother Chris not depicted for time. Fritz found Kerry in real life.
And they left out a whole other brother, who also died 😢
@@barnabasstewart4104he said that - Chris! Jack Jr, David, Mike, Chris, then Kerry leaving just Kevin
38:42 “I HATE YOU” as she bawls her eyes out is so real
The injustice that this film didn't get nominated for an Oscar. All of the performances were excellent. I cried my eyes out by the time the movie was over.
On another note: I think it's impossible to cast anyone as Ric Flair. Nobody says WHOOO!!! around here but the Nature Boy.
i think the Flair performance was interesting. his behavior was accurate but it just wasnt Ric Flair in his face or voice. He didnt phone it in though, he was really trying. And i hope Effron doesnt get discouraged by not getting much award recognition. He can have a long successful career if he brings this same dedication to his future roles
good reaction, love your background knowledge and respect for the sport!
Kevin's sons Marshall and Ross became wrestlers, and interestingly Kerry did also have a family that wasn't in the film. I think he went through a divorce at some point, but he had 2 daughters, one of which went on to professionally wrestle under the name Lacey Von Erich!
also unfortunately not included in the film was yet ANOTHER Von Erich brother, Chris, who also wrestled and also passed away under similarly tragic circumstances, but reportedly the filmmakers decided another death would be too much for the story and audience... personally I think it's sadder to not include one of them when they were all so close.
The whole cast did such a great job especially the main 4 and how they portrayed the brotherhood between them❤❤
Just subscribed to the channel. Zac Efron gave the performance of his career. He was truly overlooked for a Best Actor nomination
Their deaths hit me, especially Kerry's 😭 The ending scene of the brothers meeting each other in the afterlife was very sweet and rough to get through. Kevin with his kids end scene was so sad but bittersweet. Also I heard that the director told Zac to not cry until the last day of filming, which was the last scene with the kids. You could literally feel that raw emotion. Also the song, "Live That Way Forever" playing in the background was the same song Mike was singing at his first gig, so it hit me even more harder and even through the credits. I was such a sobbing mess in the theater 😂
Good catch on MJF. He had a bigger part that was cut down a good bit. He quickly plays “Lance” Von Erich. When David was gone, Mike was struggling and Kerry was recovering from the accident, Fritz found an unknown guy and tried to make him into another Von Erich. MJF played the part in the movie.
14:25 She might have been thinking Gene Wilder. This is the 2nd Iron claw reaction I watched where someone said he looked like Gene Wilder. 😂
I'm from Denton Texas, still live there. I was 12 yrs old outside the church at David's funeral in 1984. There were thousands outside with me. This is Von Erich mecca
Watched this in the theater with my brother. We both shed a few tears, it’s such a good movie! I can’t wait to own it, everyone did a great job! I wish this movie was getting more buzz with awards shows.
2:42 "I DO RESPECT THE SPORT😡" Lmaooo
10:43 They did a far better job depicting Harley Race than they did Ric Flair.
The Ric Flair was kind of weird, in that he looked nothing like Flair, but also absolutely gave Flair vibes.
My uncle was a wrestler in the 70’s and 80’s back when Portland wrestling was big. He always had some good stories, he was always a villain.
Damn I'd love to hear what kind of Billy Jack Haynes stories he's got
@@sergiomedina7960 they were friends, I knew him also but haven’t seen or talked to him since 2007.
@@sergiomedina7960They were actually friends, he was also a friend of the family but I haven’t seen him since 2007. I knew him before he started having mental issues. I was surprised to hear what happened recently but he was always a good friend to us anyway.
i saw the Portland "Tales From the Territories" i recommend it!
This film literally made me bawl my eyes out throughout the whole film😭😭😭😭
Bro is passively spoiling the movie … like shhhh damn🤦🏾♂️
Right!! It’s almost condescending how he feels like he has to explain everything before she has a chance to understand it.
@@janb92he may just be excited.
Adam… COOKIE POINTS for being a wrestling fan!!!
awesome watch with you im kinda shocked at your old school wrestling knowledge. much respect 🎉
It’s so cool how knowledgeable you are about the sport and the history. This was a great reaction from you both!
That “I used to be a brother line” destroyed me because I’m the youngest of 3 older sisters.
Kevin did have a title match against Ric Flair where he didn't let go of the Iron Claw and got himself disqualified but it happened way earlier in real life. I think it was the 2nd Parade of Champions event a year or so after Kerry had beaten Ric for the title, and prior to Kerry losing his foot.
To Denise it was known as The WWF in 1990. The company was forced to change the name to WWE in 2002 after losing a case to the World Wildlife Foundation.
Grew up just outside of Ft Worth. Watching the Von Erichs wrestle was such a big deal. This is truly such a heartbreaking story. Even though I saw this when it came out, I was bawling my eyes out right along with you both. The line where he says, He used to be a brother and now he is not even a brother, must be some of the saddest words ever said.
It's kinda sad to see you guys tearing up and crying:(( I just saw you guys cry for the first time
2:24 Do you remember when the heels used to jump in and out of the ring to break the count, and punish their opponents some more?😅
Being a wrestling fan I knew the real story going into this. Didn’t make it any easier to watch. Just so powerful.
LITERALLY ZAC EFRON IS MVP OF THIS MOVIE 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾💐💐💐💐 DID SUCH AN AMAZING JOB❤❤ I WISH HE GOT A NOM FOR THIS FILM😭😭
They don't mention the fact that Fritz was AWA World Champion in 1962, one of the first 10
Ah man. This movie. Glad to have been in this journey with y’all. Thanks
the main thing that Kevin has said he don't like that wasn't true visually and depicted in the movie was the way his Dad was depicted.... the whole depiction of his dad was the personal opinion and viewpoint of the director and Writer of this movie Sean Durkin...where it wasn't a Curse and all of the blame for everything is all on the Father.
5:48 Dave practicing The Iron Claw 😂
What a maneuver!
THANK YOU for reacting to this movie!!, this movie is now in my top 6 movies Ive ever seen.
I can't believe that they left out Chris Von Erich in the movie. He was the youngest brother. He killed his self in 91 by shooting his self in the head
It’s because it would be too much for the movie both in amount of trauma for the audience, and run time. He was left out because of storytelling, Kerry and mikes portrayal in the movie has a bit of Chris’s story mixed in.
Great reaction! I've been watching pro wrestling since the mid 80's and was a huge fan of World Class and the Von Erichs. I really enjoyed the film, aside from a few casting and creative decisions. In retrospect, I think their story would have worked better as a limited series on HBOMAX or another streaming service.
omg i'm crying at the movie and then you both crying made me cry more im such a mess rn hahahaaha i love all the wrestling commentary from Adam!
After viewing the movie Kevin said that the one thing, he didn't like was how his father Fritz was depicted. He understood from a story perspective that they needed an antagonist of some sort, but Kevin describes his dad as "a decent and honorable man." Now Fritz wasn't a saint by any means, but if Kevin who would have every reason to hate his father for what happened to the family doesn't hate him, I think it says a lot. Either about how forgiving Kevin is or what his father was like.
Kevin blames mostly the substance and drug abuse more than anything for what happened to his family.
Yes, that was MJF, and he was playing Lance Von Erich who was the kayfabe cousin to the brothers to help out, but everyone knew he wasn't related to the Von Erich's in any way. Which actually ended up hurting the business even more.
Very emotional
Love the reaction you both Adam and Denise
Dude trying not to spoil and failing lol
Mike was always closest to Kerry and Kerry found a way to incorporate Mike's love of music into the other brothers wrestling. Kerry would use the songs mike loved as his intro music, and after Kerry's accident Mike felt like he HAD to get in the ring to hold Kerry's place
It ashame that it wasn’t nominated for a single thing cause this movie was so good
Brain Cancer to answer why their dad was an ass at some points especially late he was even going to kill Kevin " If you had any guts like your brothers you'd kill yourself too" - Fritz to Kevin when he had Kerry's gun on Kevin [ Kevin stated this] Kevin left because in his words" I'm not letting cancer decide whether i live or die" Kevin's biggest gripe about the movie is... they made his dad look mean.. even with all that tragedy he still loved his dad like all the boys.
yup i heard Kevin say that lots of parent were like this growing up in his time. alot of tough love and push the kids real hard. Happy to see that he isnt defined by his tragedy. Every time i see him interviewed he has a very kind and humble attitude, especially in contrast to many other wrestlers of his generation
Don't make excuses for Fritz. Smh. He was the reason they died.
@@LastTorgoInParisok..😅😂
Seeing this reaction makes me want you to react to Clouds (Disney film). It’s nothing similar but my your tears reminded me of how much I bawled out during that movie.
I really lost it when Kerry died 😭😭😭 the Texas tornado is one of my all time favorite wrestlers ..
Another thing the movie got incorrect. Fritz and a business partner owned 60% of WCCW and Kevin and Kerry owned 40%. It was Fritz and his partner that sold the WCCW to Jerry Jarrett and Kevin was the one who tried to fight the sale.
Great reaction.
I completely agree about Flair. Loved your knowledge. It made it more interesting to watch
One part at the end messed things up for me. Kevin didn't bring Kerry's dead body into the house and lay him on a table. Who would do that? Also, Mike started wrestling before David died.
Great reaction it's always nice to hear someone who watches wrestling take on things and giving knowledge. Have you guys ever watched any of the dark side of the rings? Would y'all be interested in watching any of those because they have some really good ones. There's one on Bruiser Brody and Gino Hernandez who were also shown briefly in the movie.
They actually left out one brother the very youngest who also un alived himself
Very nice reaction. I think it's a good movie on the Von Erichs but it could have been great, if they included Chris and also didn't go with the family's washed version of history, because by all accounts, David died from an OD or a lethal mix. The Von Erichs were also cannabis farmers, and because they were so famous, the police turned a blind eye to that, which essentially gave them a monopoly in the area. Many wrestlers often preferred going to BTW (Big Time Wrestling as was the name pre 1982) and WCCW because they knew they could pick up large quantities without problems. That boosted the finance of the promotion.
Kerry only wrestled in the WWF between July 1990 and August 1992. He then joined ECW for one match.
For most of the time Kerry was in WWF, he was so "medicated" that he often didn't know where he was and he often greeted wrestlers 3-12 times before a show, because he forgot he had already seen them that night. He once tied a chair to his boot and walked out to the ring with it, not noticing.
All the brothers were famous/infamous for their excessive amounts of drugs they did, or at least the effect it had on them. Many wrestlers have spoken about how Kevin was also so high that he was almost unreachable until the match was about to start.
It's also important to note that Kerry was also part owner together with Kevin between 88-90. David and Kevin were also bookers in the early days of the promotion. Kevin continued as a booker.
Kevin decided to try to make WCCW compete with WWF, but by that time, the financial situation was worse. Business was going slow, and the word is that the cannabis farming had been put to a stop or at least cut down in size.
I wish they stayed more true to the story and timelines. They could have added an hour or made it into a mini-series. That would have given them time to really flesh out the story. For example, the storyline that pushed the Von Erichs to the national spotlight is not in the movie.
However, I love the movie for what it is, and there's some very cool wrestling scenes with nice nostalgia.
I remember the day I got the news that Kerry had committed suicide. It happened juat weeks after a relative had ended their life. I was only 8 at the time, but I remember it so well.
The movie and story hits hard for me, as it does to a lot of people who have had many close ones end their life's too soon. With time, unfortunately, the heart grows kinda cold as a response to that.
They're fighting for their father's approval their entire lives.
That, in and of itself, is not a bad thing.
MJF in the movie is playing Lance Von Erich, with the others hurt, Fritz thought they needed another Von Erich, so he hired some local wrestler and claimed he was Lance Von Erich the boys Cousin.
The movie certainly alludes to the divorce between Fritz and his wife but doesnt clearly state it, which I find odd. They also omit Fritz's brain cancer, which is a big reason he was such a mess by the late state. The movie also omits all run ins the brothers had with the Law, such as Kerry crashing into a parked cop car and staring down the barrel of a lengthy prison sentence for drug offenses when he died. Everything said, I loved the movie and hope theyll make more like it.
It is such an American thing to call a local champion a "World Champion" 😂😂
It was defended all around the world though.
Harley went to Japan, south America, Europe and Australia defending that title.
This was actually the only real world title that has existed in pro wrestling. It was officially defended in many of the worlds countries, where wrestling was popular and NWA had affiliated promotions. There were alao unofficial defenses made in countries where wrestling wasn't as big but where some promotions might have toured one or two times.
@@systerkeno You're right. There were even fighters from other countries, such as Japan, who have held the title.
@@LeviAckerman-cb5ji It was also unofficially defended in sweden too, in an arena with around 300 in the audience, waay back. People had absolutely no idea what pro wrestling was. Many thought they were going to see unsanctioned boxing. But yeah, that belt was defended all over the globe.
Crazy how I was gonna recommend this to yall. Movie of the year in 2023 imo.
@FanPops Kevin had no input in the film at all. The director made erhe film without consulting him and although Kevin liked the film two things he hated were the way his dad was depicted as a terrible father which is far from the truth, and also the fact his youngest brother Chris also killed himself but was left out the film entirely due to time restraints and the director felt one more death was too just too much for the audience.
I love the film but u agree with Kevin. His dad loved his boys and was strict but no more so than any other southern father was. In fact if you see the last interview he did shortly before he lost his battle to brain cancer he gets very emotional when talking qbout his boys.
Jack Jr, David, Mike, Chris and Kerry.
Imagine burying 5 of your 6 children.
Kevin is a testament to the endurance of the human spirit
Kevin's Sons are wrestling shows up in AEW... Kerry's Daughter Lacey Wrestling Too
Why is she so clueless, but he seems like he’s paying attention and understands
Well she’s clueless because this guy is talking and spoiling the whole movie like if he kept his mouth shut about some stuff it would awnser the question she had.
Also, there was another brother Chris, who they didn’t feature in the movie.
Kevin's sons wrestle. He helped train them.
I love your videos so much Adam and Denise
Just seeing your wife react to this, I feel like she'd love watching WWE 🙌
And now two of Kevin’s sons Marshall and I can’t remember the other one are a tag team
Ross is the eldest of the two then Marshall
Was cool that you know so much, but you gave out some pretty massive spoilers. Did not subscribe😅
Movie recommendation( paranormal activity 1-6) there so scary
Iron sheik , but great eye, chavo playing sheik.
I loved this reaction. I really would love for yous to react to southpaw a great movie
I loved this movie its in my top 20 all time. my one complaint is that ric flair actor just terrible.
No Jack Jr was oldest
Please... I hope watching film " Inside out (2015) for you're reaction
How are you doing
Dude.
Shut up about wrestling and just let her watch
Why be unnecessarily rude?
Was he a wrestler, don't tell me.
Wow, that was a tough one. The movie is beautifully done, which is very rare these days.
Reminds me a bit of the Bell brothers' story.
Von Erich Sr. what a piece of sht...