HP Z840 CPU and cooling upgrade | HP Z Cooler vapor chamber heatsink unboxing & install
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- Up until this video was made, I only had a "testing" CPU in my HP Z840. So today I'm installing a pair of Xeon E5-2680 v4 CPUs and additional 64GB of RAM for a total of 128GB. Along with the CPU upgrade, I'll also be upgrading the CPU cooling system with HP's own "Z Cooler" solution.
The HP Z Cooler is a vapor chamber based CPU heatsink design. Instead of just using heatpipes and fins to remove heat from the CPU, the Z Cooler uses a vapor chamber and a unique "wave fin" design that increase the surface area of the cooling fins. I'll be doing an unboxing and showing you up close what this HP Z Cooler looks like.
During the install of the CPUs, RAM, and HP Z Cooler, I ran into a few installation problems, but they were manageable. However, upon first boot up, I got a red power button light and 5-beep error code. This is an indicator of RAM related error. However, in the end, the solution turned out to be re-seating of CPU.
For the impatient, here's the video index:
== Video Index ==
0:23 - Introducing the gear (Xeon E5-2680v4 and PC4-2400T RAM)
1:47 - Introducing the HP Z Cooler
3:06 - HP Z Cooler unboxing
5:27 - Explaining the HP Z Cooler
9:13 - Begin installation of HP Z Cooler
10:05 - A closer look at the "air coercion chamber" CPU and RAM cooling shroud
11:55 - Comparing HP Z cooler vs stock Z840 CPU cooler
13:56 - Preparing to install new CPUs and RAM
15:23 - Installing Xeon E5-2680v4 CPUs
17:34 - Installing 2nd CPU RAM modules
18:41 - Begin installing HP Z Cooler
20:40 - Problems with installing HP Z Cooler
24:18 - A much smoother HP Z Cooler install on 1st CPU
27:18 - Installing additional fan for 2nd CPU
30:27 - Re-installing the CPU cooling air shroud on HP Z Coolers
33:16 - Booting up and verifying new CPU and RAM work
34:10 - Explaining unexpected RAM problem with 5 beeps error and how I resolved it
39:30 - Wrap up
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HP Z Cooler looks incredible! The engineers and designers have clearly tried their best!
It is beautiful! Thanks for watching!
@@ELECTR0HERMIT sounds great. I'm having great difficulty finding a supplier in the UK for the Z Vapor Coolers, you wouldn't happen to have a link to the German website would you ?
I purchased an HP Z840 (well and Z820 too!) a while back and love this video! Looking to upgrade the processors to more cores, RAM, and storage. Your video showing how to add more storage has helped a lot. I've bought all of the parts and am assembling same. I'll work on the Z840 first and then the Z820.
Congrats on the Z840! Glad these videos have helped! :-)
Ugh… I don’t NEED extra cooling in my Z840.. but wow that is a beautiful cooler. Upgrading this tower is so much fun, so yeah I think I am going to buy a pair. Great stuff my friend. Thank you. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
It really is! Thanks for watching! :-)
Great timing! I'm just waiting for my Z840 (new to me) to show up and it needs CPUs installed. Great video!
Congrats on your Z840!!! Sounds exciting... stay tuned for more Z840 videos coming soon! :-)
Got one fully kitted from work, machine is amazing great video, I didn't get the opportunity to change much in mine.
That's awesome! Congratulations!!! I think you're going to love using this machine... :-)
@@ArtofServer really enjoy your videos thank you, I've added a quad port nic and an adaptec 51245 to connect a hp storageworks d2700, I saw your video after about the sas port if I had known would have used the same method. But your videos have taught me something new each time so thank you once again.
i did a smilar upgrade to mine - 2680v4's but with 256GB of mem. I'm using the original coolers though but im very interested in this! Also i've found the Z440 coolers to be GREAT for other X99 builds and used them on a few different mobos, nice compact design, bring your own fan and away you go
nice! thanks for sharing your experiences! :-)
Great stuff! For the CPU cooler install I would recommend going criss-cross with the screws, that usually eases the spring tension issues a little. Jealous of your setup. Not just because of those ultra rare coolers, but also because you now have 14 Cores and 28 Threads with 128GB of 2400MHz DDR4! (My Z840 has 2x E5 2660 v3's with 64GB 2133MHz DDR4). What are your CPU running temps now? Mine sit around 50'C operating and ~63'C under load (normal coolers; Artic Silver 5 thermal paste).
The "criss-cross" is what I tried the first time and it was rather difficult. It was much easier to get the 2 rear screws threaded in first. Then apply force to the heatsink to get the front screws to contact the threads. It's a bit of a non-standard procedure, but that seems to work better in this case.
I'm on my Z840 as I type this which has been running for several hours. The CPU package temps are sitting at 37C and 35C right now, room ambient is about 23C. I have not observed the temps under heavy load yet, but at least idle temps are good.
I have some upcoming videos with some awesome storage ideas for the HP Z840. stay tuned! :-)
The spring screws are easy when these screw in a little by each. Don’t finish one by one, do it diagonally and keep the surface flat.
That's what I was doing. And doing it diagonally on my first attempt didn't go well. In this case, it was better to do the 2 rear screws first and then the front screws as demonstrated on the 2nd attempt.
@@ArtofServer Then, I am sorry that was not helping. Recalling my memories, I give a little pressure downward to a heatsink. And now I get it, this heatsink has no flat place to push by hand. I own an HP Z640 and now considering Z840 for the beauty of structure. I wonder the noise level is acceptable or not. Z640 works very silent when idle, but quite loud on a hot day.
i bought a used HP Z840 and simply love its performance... am struggling to get the Z cooler in India as they dont sell it anymore.. :(
Me to India, Andhrapradesh
Can you edit 4k raw footage video?
@@seemasaiprasanthreddy1400 you can edit RAW 8K or any K. u need to have a good GPU and good V4 CPUs with decent RAM
Yeah, those Z coolers are getting harder to find.
I have hp z840 with E5-2697 v4's. I run mine at full load a lot and one CPU is around 80C after 12 hours and the other is at 70C. I've upgraded to Noctua fans over the CPU's but that didn't change the temperature much. I'm tempted to get these but for that price I might as well get some aftermarket coolers that are just as good, if not better. I would have to get rid of the cooler box but I'm not sure if you need this? Most computers don't have this isolating chamber and they do perfectly fine. I know HP Engineers tend to over-engineer and so I'm not entirely convinced this chamber even helps, unless the intake isn't sufficient. What are your thoughts on this? I figure I can revamp the entire cooling system with aftermarket for around $200. Including all new fans for the rear and intakes.
Edit: I'm at 35C at idle temps and 45C with light browsing and youtube. Full load is 65-80C depending on how long I'm running for.
My temps are similar at idle, and around 73-75C under full load. But I'm using E5-2680v4 CPUs.
Most consumer PCs don't really bother cooling RAM. The crazy forced air coercion chamber HP uses pushes air on both CPUs and DIMM slots. I don't know how well an alternative cooling setup would do, but I'm sure something is possible. But I have not tried such alternative solution, so I have no advice to offer.
Thank you for the reply! Yeah, I'm a little bit worried about the ram overheating because I have 64gb modules. I think if worst comes to worst I'll just get a small 40mm fan and use magnetic screws. By the way, I have recently turned up the fan one star in the bios (it was at zero stars) and my temps hover around 60C now for all cpu's at full load. Super interesting because it says in the bios that the setting is only for idle fan speed. I suspect it is also for the rear case fans because they defininately sound louder. I'm goin now replace them with some be-quiet fans by figuring out the proprietary pinout and just leave the cooling chamber in for now with my noctua fans. @@ArtofServer
tip get a longer screwdriver maybe a flex shaft as well
but great job ..
Thanks for the tip! :-)
Not sure but the plug on the cooler may be for PILTIER colling
Would it be possible for you do a video on how to do PCI / gpu passthrough with a P400 on a HP z840, using proxmox. I have tried all the guides out there and I can't figure out why my gpu is not passing through. I really appreciate everything you do. Your guide helped me flash the build in Raid controller into IT mode. Thank you.
That's a great idea. If I find the time, I'll look into doing that video.
Hi I purchased a used HPZ840 from Ebay couple months ago. It works great. Recently I decided to re-apply the thermal paste because I did not want this thing to fail prematurely if due to heat if the thermal paste has hardened over the year. I took out the CPU from the socket so that I could clean the old thermal paste. I think there was a one drop of the old thermal paste on the edge of the pin on the mother board. I carefully pickup the the drop. After I put everything back together with the new thermal paste applied and boot the machine, I got the following error message: 932-Warning one of the QPI links is not operating. I looked up online about Intel QPI. It says that this protocol helps to speed up the communication between CPUs. But when I looked up online, they are talking about a machine with a riser, one socket is populated with intel CPU and the other socket is chip that is non intel. I dont know what this QPI warning message mean. I simply press Enter to proceed and the system runs fine. I wonder if this an issue with the CPU or with the motherboard. I wonder if I put the CPU in my HPZ800 into HPZ840, would I see the warning message. Any thoughts? Is it possible that a bent pin cause this QPI error message?
yeah, that is probably something to do with your CPU socket. QPI is the processor interconnect protocol/technology. You probably have a bent pin, or a pin is not making good contact. remove CPU, examine your CPU sockets. make sure it is clean on both pins and pads (CPU side), and use compressed air to remove any debris. if there any pins that are bent or out of alignment, fix with tweezers. next, re-seat the CPUs carefully, and like I mentioned, as evenly as possible when latching the lever.
@@ArtofServer Thank you. Yeah I think I will go look for any bent pins. Hopefully this is not the case.
The CPU in the z800 is a different socket than z840
Nice and all, but as an experienced e5-2680v4 xeon user for heavy computational computing, I can tell you that that processor never get hotter than 55C even with my cheap CoolerMaster Hyper 212. That particular Xeon with 14cores only has a TDP of 120watts @ 2.4GHz and a bit more at turbo boost. But it sure looks pretty, and it is so very well engineered, IMHO.
Yes, but of course I’d do the same as you have done. 👍
i got the same Xeon E5-2680 v4 x 2 nos.. and they are excellent..
Indeed! But I think I may upgrade soon...
@@ArtofServer wow.. to what? the 24 core xeons? or may be a HP Z8?
Thank you Very Much For Detail Explanation..
Hope this was helpful! :-)
Thanks for your videos.
Please, what is the highest or maximum processors I can use with Z Cooler?
Could it handle E5 2699 V4?
yes.
What issues did you have with memory errors? I can get my z840 get past memory error when I go from v3 to v4 cpus
It was explained near the end of the video. basically, CPU didn't seat correctly in LGA2011 socket so I suspect some DIMM related pins were off. reseating the CPU fixed it.
That cable is a heatsink temperature sensor connection.
Yeah, someone else mentioned that too. I didn't notice a sensor element on that wire though... but thanks for sharing your knowledge.
My God, it's so pretty.
my precious.... ;-)
Tumko square type me coolant me dooba huwa system bunana hoga jisse bubble ude or heat dissipation ho
I had a similar problem with my z840. I did a diagnostic test in the uefi to make sure all the memory was registering, it was. I removed the ram and reseated it anyway. Problem solved, but I still try not to move the tower much incase it was the cpu or motherboard.
Yeah, after resetting the DIMMs it still complained about DIMM #4. That's when I decided to re-seat the CPU and that resolved it finally. Thanks for sharing your experience! Once it is working, no need to baby it. But, did you also notice that weird "clicking" sound when pressing on the DIMM at the top edge?
@@ArtofServer no I didn't. They all sounded the same when they popped in. I've noticed these workstations have some weird quirks from time to time but I just like the look of them for some reason.
Can you show what happens in the software part of the z cooler after you've plugged in the 2pin to the motherboard. Also, is it possible to change all the fans to like noctua or be quiet fans?
There's no software..??
@Art of Server What I meant is like what difference does it make by plugging in those 2 pins? Will it be shown in BIOS or UEFI settings? Or what purpose does those 2 pins serves?
Yes you can upgrade to noctua, you just need to shave off one of the guides on the fan plug (or an extension cable) to make it fit the proprietary HP four pin connector for the regular fans. For the five pin cpu fans, you can hack it by repurposing a splitter cable to add the extra ground, linus tech tips explains how to do this. Also, clover bootloader to boot off of nvme pcie. I'm currently modifying to z420 to be all noctua. Instead of memory fan, strapping 14 inch noctua to open underside of fanless psu, stuck to top of case with 3m command strips. PSU adapter needed for motherboard cable of course. Replaced hp z420 case fan with noctua 92mm.
@@fanlessfurmark Omg. That's a good reply. Thank you so much :)
The 'cable' is connected to a thermal sensor embedded in the heatsink...
OH!!! really? that's interesting and I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing!
Please consult the blogger. For the same machine z840, I upgraded the CPU (2680v4). After installation, the 932 error message [932 warning one of the QPI links is not operating] appeared when I started the machine. The method of trying to replace the memory modules failed to be solved. This problem also occurs when replacing the original CPU. I don't know what's wrong. Is it my BIOS setting?
QPI link is the link between the CPUs. you might have a bad CPU, or one of the LGA2011 pins is bent. I would check that and re-seat BOTH CPUs.
@@ArtofServer Thank you for your answer. I suspected that it was this problem.
How do you intend to use your Z840 w/ all those cores & memory?
It's pretty much my everything workstation. I'll be doing my video/photo edits on it, running VMs for code testing/simulations, running accounting software, and daily web/email stuff. Oh, and playing games during my downtime.
Any thoughts on bad memory damaging a CPU?
I have a z840 running dual E5-2680 V4s, that came with 64 GB of DDR4-2400T memory in 8 slots. I picked up another set of eight, 8GB memory DIMMs, same part number and manufacturer and it wouldn't boot after that. I removed the extra memory and it still wouldn't boot. I then pulled all the memory except slot 1 on both CPUs, still no boot or the 5 beep memory error.
I finally pulled the second CPU (1), and started checking memory 1 DIMM at a time in CPU0 slot 1 and it would boot, tested all the DIMMs one at a time and found that four of the "new" DIMMs I purchased would cause the system to fail to boot with the 5 beeps. Could 4 bad DIMMs have damaged the second CPU? I ordered another 2680 V4 CPU off of ebay for $14, so I'm hoping the system isn't damaged at the motherboard level. I knew it was the second CPU that was the problem. I turned it on, left it on for a few minutes but shut it down when the fans ramped up to full speed. When I shut it down and pulled off the fans, I couldn't touch the second CPU's heatsink, the first one was just slightly warm as I would expect.
I haven't found any information on the net though about bad memory damaging CPUs so I'm a little stumped as to why the system won't boot now, even with all the "new" memory removed and trying to boot with the previous configuration that worked. I even pulled the second CPU twice and reseated it to make sure it wasn't a CPU contact problem and it hasn't helped. It will boot without the second CPU installed and all 8 of the first CPU memory slots filled.
that's really strange. never experienced or heard of that before. sounds like maybe there was a short on the 2nd CPU?
@@ArtofServer Would that only be possibly on a particular memory controller PIN? This same CPU worked fine when I only had half the memory slots populated (4x 8gb for each CPU).
It wasn't until I populated the other 4 slots that I found I had a problem/damage. Remove those other 4 slots for each CPU, the configuration before adding extra memory and it still won't boot, so I'm assuming the memory damaged the CPU (and hopefully nothing else).
I've ordered another CPU, luckily they're cheap now and I'll update if I find anything after replacing.
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
My favorite pc bro
yeah, I'm loving my Z840!!!
how about the new cooler performance ? and the old cooler is use 8mm + 6mm heat pipes right ?
A year and a half later would you still make the investment in the Z Cooler? I have 2 in my cart and I am having trouble pushing the button. :)
I would still get the Z Cooler, but that depends on price. I got mine brand new at a very fair price, I think something like $70-ish. They have performed well with my dual E5-2680v4 CPUs and max temp of around 70C under heavy ffmpeg transcoding load for several hours.
Great video. What’s the noise level on that one?
From the rear of the machine, you can hear the exhaust fans, but it's not noticeable if you have the machine under a desk. It's not silent, but very usable in an office environment. On my list of future videos will be a noise test with a decibel meter.
Is there a 1 socket, 3.5" x8 hot swap drive disk bay equivalent available ?
I have a really hard time finding that kind of box
You can always run this HP Z840 with just 1 CPU, so there's that option. This machine has 4x 3.5" bays internally natively, but I have upcoming videos that will show you how to expand on that storage in a few different ways, so stay tuned!
Samne jo system he usme kya ho heat bahar nikul nahi parahi
Very cool
Thanks!
1st :) synchronicity
:-)
Any temperature comparison before and after upgrade?
I didn't record it, but under CPU load, it made about a 5C difference.
Can you please run hdparm -T /dev/sda - just to get a glimpse of the memory performance? I know it's not a real benchmark. Thank you.
Does this help?:
Timing cached reads: 19332 MB in 1.99 seconds = 9718.39 MB/sec
@@ArtofServer Thank you! 👍
Very interesting video. Do you know if this machine is compatible with Windows 11?
sorry, no idea about Win11... thanks for watching!
@@ArtofServer Couldn't tell from your video, but do those machines have a TPM in them? I noticed they have UEFI.
@@metrotechguru5863 They have UEFI and you can update TPM to 2.0 with a firmware upgrade.
i'm running W11 since day 1. It works fine, I've upgraded the TPM firmware to TPM2.0 and that's it running a couple of E5-2698V4 and 128GB of ram.
i have a problem with the cooling its not detecting anything
not sure what you mean? it's not detecting what?
@@ArtofServer the cpu fan sir i didnt detect and i receive that the cpu fan isnt working is their away to replace this
Ya coolant ya special liquid
Jaha heat Pani me milke bubble nikalegi wahi heat proper tureekese shant pudegi
Get a screwdriver with an articulated extension!
Do the v4 cpus require the 2400 ram? I’m trying to upgrade my cpus to v4 and 2133 ram from the v3 don’t seem to work with new cpus
require, no. the v4 cpus should be able to work at the slower speeds too.
@@ArtofServer the slower ram works fine with the v3 cpu but continues to cause memory error code with the v4 cpus. I’ve tried dual and single cpu install and all memory configurations
30:55 "It's kind of a tight fit, actually?" (That's what SHE said!)
LMAO :-))
😂
adobe premiere pro Can i edit 4k raw footage videos? Please reply me
I don't use that software so I can't say. but generally speaking this hardware can be configured to edit 4k footage. I do with GPU acceleration and a different editing software.
I'm looking for an z840. Do you recommend any place in particular ?
no particular place.
If you're in the UK keep checking Ebay, I've bought 2 Z840 machines in the past 8 months (one as a backup machine) for about £500 each.
I am selling one of these, where do you think it's the best place to sell? Newegg forced me to be company, which I am not ..
Local CL or OfferUp is easiest. eBay works too, but shipping is not cheap.
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is this cooler use this processor model (Intel Xeon E5-2683 v4)
Yes, it should work fine with that CPU. That's only 120W TDP.
this guy in aplying the heatsink was all wrong but head now he will have a very hard time
i want buy fan model give me good link ebay or amazon aliexpress thank u
what fan?
Could you please just draw out the information even further. I mean really you could make this twice as long and half the information.
I don't know... I could give it a go and you let me know. okay?