HP Z840 How to add additional HDD storage bays (also works for Z820 Z800)

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  • @CheapSushi
    @CheapSushi Год назад +2

    I just wanted to say those HP coolers are really really interesting and I want to build something like that on my own. Like a waterblock, rad small combo like that.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  Год назад

      Yeah, I like the fine details in engineering. Did you see the video where I talk about the HP z coolers?

  • @philliprozul4847
    @philliprozul4847 2 года назад +1

    I smashed that like button. I landed my first IT job as a project coordinator. it's a lot, especially since I made a career change from the Medical field. But I am loving every moment. Your channel has helped me a lot within the month I've been at this company. thanks!

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      So glad to hear my content has helped you. That's really awesome and congrats on the career move!

  • @Doesntcompute2k
    @Doesntcompute2k 2 года назад +1

    I purchased an HP Z840 (well and Z820 too!) a while back and love this video! Looking to upgrade the processors to more cores, RAM, and storage. Your video showing how to add more storage has helped a lot. I've bought all of the parts and am assembling same. I'll work on the Z840 first and then the Z820.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад +2

      Yeah, I've put together several Z820 for some friends, but I love that model and ended up picking one up for myself too. Might show it in a future video. For now, Z840 is my main workstation.

    • @Doesntcompute2k
      @Doesntcompute2k 2 года назад

      @@ArtofServer E5-2696v4 are cheap and I'm thinking of loading up my cores in the 840/820/T7910. Upgrading BIOS first, of course. ;) I can get DDR4ecc cheap too (16/32GB RDIMMS). The Z840 really is a great beast!

  • @BennyTygohome
    @BennyTygohome 2 года назад +2

    HP really knows how to design great systems. The tool-less trays are super convenient and not expensive. I like that 2x5 to 3x3.5 backplane. I've an old chassis I could put something like that in as and use it as a backup repository for veeam

  • @GeoffSeeley
    @GeoffSeeley 2 года назад +3

    Sweet custom cable! You've given me some ideas.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      Cool! :-) Thanks for watching!

  • @gedionsamuel2256
    @gedionsamuel2256 2 года назад +2

    Incredibile stuff! Just got a Z820 a few months ago that I’m getting closer to modifying similarly. Hoped to fit 5 or 6 16TB Exos drives & this solves a big hurdle. Now to figure out what’s the best way to setup the entire thing as the most beneficial data storage, media hub & perhaps some usage for rendering etc. All the raid info can be overwhelming

  • @jaffmoney1219
    @jaffmoney1219 3 месяца назад +1

    An added bonus for those thin SATA cables is that they won’t hit the GPU fans if you have one in the lowest x16 slot

  • @equintar
    @equintar 2 года назад +2

    Do you made another video about expanding storage, but with 2.5" drives?
    I believe I saw a video about this... Now I'm thinking I dreamed it! ;)
    Very good video. Thank you

    • @equintar
      @equintar 2 года назад

      I aswer myself... It was in another workstation.
      GLUPS!

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад +1

      I did, but on the Dell T7910...

  • @Magicairsoft9
    @Magicairsoft9 2 года назад +4

    You can also buy some Icydock or other brand 5,25 to 4x 2,5 HS bay kit- so you also can install 8x 2,5 drives instead of 3x 3,5 :-)

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад +2

      yes, very true. In my case, I want a large storage pool using 3.5" HDDs so this was the best option.

  • @maddevskilz1786
    @maddevskilz1786 6 месяцев назад +1

    I'm gonna put a 3.5" floppy drive in mine just to mess with the junior devs!

  • @woxit6107
    @woxit6107 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for your time and effort!

  • @mohsein
    @mohsein 2 года назад +1

    Another great video! Thanks! I already bought a couple of 5.25 to 3.25 converter trays but will probably replace those with this one. BTW, are you using IPMI on your Z840? I have Z820 but I am not sure how to configure and use that, and get rid of my gpu that I am using for managing the machine.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      Thanks, glad you liked it. No, I don't believe these workstations support IPMI.

    • @mohsein
      @mohsein 2 года назад

      My bad, I meant amt interface.

  • @maximherman7126
    @maximherman7126 Год назад +1

    Thanks for all the information! You earned a sub today :)
    I'm just wondering.. you are putting 7x 10 TB drives into your system.
    Isn't there a limit on the capacity? I do have a HP Z620 and I thought I was limited to 12TB in total..?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  Год назад

      Thanks for the sub! There's no limit at 12TB. The SAS-2 controller onboard this Z840 can handle drives up to 8ZB SAS and 128PB SATA (per drive). There's no total limit that I know of.

  • @andygonzalez7012
    @andygonzalez7012 2 года назад +2

    where is your boot drive? if you load up 7 of these SAS drives then is one your boot or are you using a SSD onboard a pci card?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад +1

      I'm using a HP Z Turbo drive with a PM981A M.2 SSD as shown in my T7910 bulid: ruclips.net/video/3-sB6zS61Ag/видео.html
      That's my OS drive. The /home and other stuff will be on separate storage.

  • @Mohamed.GadAllah
    @Mohamed.GadAllah 2 года назад +1

    Your videos are helpful a lot, and you helped me to makeup my mind on z840.
    I've followed your advice regarding the Z Cooler from the other videos, and also the 5.25 to 3.5 bays on this video. Thanks a lot.
    Please, if I want to connect NVM Express (NVMe) to include more storage as I've read on manual this statement:
    ""The M60 BIOS natively supports booting from NVM Express (NVMe), which allows PCI-Express-based Solid-State Drives (SSDs). NVMe provides greatly improved performance compared to AHCI, the interface used by SATA drives.""
    So, which adapter would you recommend to buy? and which NVMe card or drive would you recommend.
    Thanks and sorry for long comment.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад +1

      Checkout the HP Z Turbo Drive, and also their HP Z Turbo Drive Quad Pro. I would use Samsung PM981A NVMe SSDs.

    • @TheStigNash
      @TheStigNash Год назад

      @@ArtofServer Hi I know this is an old comment, but is there any reason any quality gen3x4 NVMe drive wouldn't work on with Z Turbo Quad Pro/Z840 combo? I was thinking about mixing drive sizes too fwiw.

  • @tammah
    @tammah Год назад +1

    This video was tremendously useful. Thank you! I have a Z820 and I'd like to add more SATA / SAS HDDs. Thanks to your other video, I know what to get. I'm not very tech savvy so I wanted to know: if I buy the HDD and just plug it in, does the system automatically recognize it and allow me to use it, or is there a software installation I need to do? Thanks for your help and sorry for the remedial question :)

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  Год назад +1

      Glad this was useful! You may need to install drivers in your OS to detect the controller you use to connect the HDDs.

    • @tammah
      @tammah Год назад

      @@ArtofServer Thank you very much! I figured it all out and everything's working perfectly. 👌🏿

  • @UnkyjoesPlayhouse
    @UnkyjoesPlayhouse 2 года назад +1

    Let me grab a fresh cup of Java Juice :)

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      Time to do a video about your Java juice rituals! :-)

  • @JDMeister
    @JDMeister 2 года назад +3

    Kinda funny i also have similiar 10 TB hsgt drives on my Z840, but mine are custom from Oracle.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      what's your Z840 HDD setup with those 10TB HGST?

    • @JDMeister
      @JDMeister 2 года назад

      @@ArtofServer Nothing fancy, 4 of those in raid 10 and a sata ssd for cache.

  • @Agnemons
    @Agnemons 2 года назад

    Here's a question for you and your viewers.
    I have
    Dell R710 ( 1x E5504 @GHz, 36 GB Ram and 6 x 2TB drives, H700) this is a 6 bay unit
    Dell R720 (2x E5-2670 2.6GHz, 128GB Ram 4 x 2TB drives, H710) this is an 8 bay unit
    My intention is to setup the R710 as a NAS unit and the R720 as a virtualisation server with 1 or more pass through GPU’s
    My thought is to run either TrueNas scale or Unraid on the R710
    As for the R720 not sure options are:
    TrueNas
    ProxMox
    TrueNas on ProxMox
    Proxmox on TrueNas
    If I run TrueNas on the R710 then there are advantages in running it on the R720 as well. One disadvantage is not getting exposure to ProxMox.
    One question is whether or not TrueNas Scale can do the virtualisation to the same or better level than ProxMox.
    The use case is a Homelab. I’m retiring in a few months time and this is something to drive myself insane with.
    I am leaning towards TrueNas Scale on both with ProxMox on TrueNas on the R720

  • @XinXinTax
    @XinXinTax 10 месяцев назад +1

    where do I buy z840 ? Amazon has it, but it cannot be shipped to my location, which is California. So weird.

  • @interestmovie
    @interestmovie Год назад +1

    I bought this workstation with a cpu 2667v2 32g ram 1866 and a new GT730 graphic for 444 dollars and now I have to pay 100 dollars only for its hard drive, it is really strange but it is really a practical device and maybe because I am in Iran and 500,000 rials is equal to 1 dollar, it is a big amount for me, I don't know
    I had a question, can I use the cage hard server instead of the Z820 workstation caddy (the same 4 internal hard drives) because the seller didn't give me one of them and I can't prepare my own standard caddy

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  Год назад

      Congrats on the new machine. These are great machines. And yes, the plastic drive caddy for the Z800, Z820 and Z840 are all the same.

  • @stevietee3878
    @stevietee3878 2 года назад

    Hi, another terrific video ! One thing occurred to me, I recently bought a Z840 and I noticed the difference in accessibility regarding the 5.25 bays at the front, but I also own a Z800 with the increased drive bay space. There are many things about the chassis on the Z840 which have remained the same since the original Z800 models and I think it might be quite easy to swap out the front/top grill from the Z800 and fit it in the Z840. Have you tried that by any chance ? The only reason I can think of why HP would alter the design is for better airflow in the Z840.

    • @mangoes142
      @mangoes142 2 года назад

      Can I know what do you mean by that? I own both too. Hopefully could mod it with your advice.

  • @lse123polis
    @lse123polis Год назад +1

    Can I do the same for hp Z640, i have two bays free/empty like you, suitable for two DVD drives...well...?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  Год назад

      I think so. But Z640 doesn't have onboard SAS controller, so you will need to figure out a controller solution with it.

  • @danchieev
    @danchieev Год назад +1

    HP zZ640 and Z840 support sata and ssata drive modes. Can one install sas drives with raidz1? I have sas drives connected to the drive cage but for some reason they aren't detected. I researched on the HP website about HP Z640 supporting sas drives seems one needs a LSI controller. I intend to run Proxmox as the hypervisor; then create VMs to run different distros and also host plex as a standalone platform through hdd passthrough, run pihole on a vm and also wire-guard on a vm as my bypass to my plex server when am not home. Please advise which is the best route to take. Thank you

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  Год назад

      SAS drives require a SAS controller. Check your cabling and make sure it is connected to the onboard SAS controller and not the SATA controller.

  • @iforth64
    @iforth64 18 дней назад +1

    Can we add modern (fast, 7 or 12GBytes/s) SSD's to the HPZ840? I don't need them to boot from.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  17 дней назад

      you certainly can add SAS-3 drives, but you would need a different controller. The onboard SAS controller is only SAS-2.

    • @iforth64
      @iforth64 17 дней назад

      @@ArtofServer That's only a factor of 2 :--) Would an M.2 NVME PCIe Adapter work in a HPZ840, or are there problems ahead?

  • @THD360
    @THD360 Год назад +1

    by any chance, you can show me how to remove PCI metal slot? I push and pull up on a metal slot but it won't come out. did I do something wrong?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  Год назад

      Sorry, I don't know. Usually the metal brackets just fall out. It must be jammed in there some how...

    • @THD360
      @THD360 Год назад

      ​@@ArtofServer I used screwdriver and popped it out from the outside. I taped around screwdriver so it doesn't get scratches. Thanks,

  • @RandomTechWZ
    @RandomTechWZ 2 года назад +1

    Do you know if the z840 can run sata and SAS drives at the same time using the LSI controller?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      that shouldn't be a problem.

  • @bagamax
    @bagamax Год назад +1

    2 five inch bays are enough for 8 U.2 drives, or 16 nvme M.2 ssds, or even 24 sata ssds. Installing mechanical 3.5s in 202x is strange.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  Год назад

      everyone has different needs. a lot of people who watch my channel are building media storage servers and need 100TB or storage. try pricing out 100TB of M.2 NVMe storage... spinning HDDs still have practical use case even in 2023.

    • @bagamax
      @bagamax Год назад

      @@ArtofServer if we're talking about best bang per buck there should be no SAS, no HP Z and no hotswap in the video. But that's a completely different story, isn't it? And btw 100TB of your disks won't fit into Z840 with, or without any cage.

  • @lolalex556
    @lolalex556 2 года назад +1

    do you know if a perc h710 is compatible with a r710 gen1 or what raid card do u think i should be running in 2022 for a home lab

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      H710 can work in the R710 server, but it will run at PCIe 2.0 speeds only, and will have to use a normal PCIe slot instead of the integrated storage slot. I think the LSI SAS2208 is still a good RAID controller in 2022, but get the one with 1GB cache.

  • @shawnhistory
    @shawnhistory Год назад +1

    Can you use the 5.25 bay drive to add internal blu ray drive? If so how do you do it? I have an LG 5.25 blu ray drive I want to connect to my z840

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  Год назад

      Just install the blu-ray drive and connect it to one of the onboard SATA ports.

    • @shawnhistory
      @shawnhistory Год назад

      @@ArtofServer thank you for the reply. I was confused because I thought it wouldn’t reach the cable but it did. I have one more question. Mines came with a slim DVD drive in it. Can I have both DVD and the blu ray drives in simultaneously or should I remove the slim one because I installed the blu ray one in?

  • @wilsione
    @wilsione 2 года назад +1

    Hi there my friend..How can we know on what latest GPU cards can Z840 can handle? Like the new Quadro RTX cards or any other upgrade?. Thank You Very much!!!

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      i don't know of any restrictions on what GPU you can use.

    • @wilsione
      @wilsione 2 года назад

      @@ArtofServer Does it mean i can use any GPU? or based on your experience where should i research? Thanks again my friend

  • @salamdamai
    @salamdamai 2 года назад +1

    Where is the DVD player?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад +1

      The Z840 uses a laptop "slim" SATA optical drive. You can see it in the video right above the 5.25" bays I'm using.

  • @lse123polis
    @lse123polis Год назад

    SAS SATA HDDs are thicker than Normal SATA HDDs,...? Can use both in the cage of 3 HDDs or only thicken?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  Год назад

      I don't know of any modern 3.5" HDD, SAS or SATA that isn't roughly the same in dimensions. There were very thick 3.5" drives from 20 yrs ago, but I'm sure that's not what you're talking about?
      Modern 2.5" drives do have various thickness. Maybe you're talking about 2.5"?

    • @lse123polis
      @lse123polis Год назад

      @@ArtofServerYI, I had a HDD 3TB drive of 2017 in my z640 bought used eBay, and replaced with HDD drive of 2021 of 4TB and the 2021 was less thick…, date were on HDDs model etc info label…

  • @geoffreykisuze1014
    @geoffreykisuze1014 2 года назад

    Where can I buy this drive bay from? Can you share links?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      Links are in the description.

  • @NetBandit70
    @NetBandit70 2 года назад

    Do you know if it's possible to get a HP Z820 to boot from NVMe (PCIe add-in card). I tried the latest BIOS and it didn't work... maybe I am doing something wrong.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад +1

      Z820 does not have the native capability to boot off NVMe devices. You either have to bootstrap or use a NVMe device that has the bootstrap code. There are specific models that can do that, but I don't know the specifics off the top of my head.

    • @skip741x3
      @skip741x3 Год назад

      nvme support not natively unless ur willing to do the work to mod the bios... simple usb as 1st boot choice with duet/refind on it will provide the nvme driver for then booting an nvme drive in a card in the pcie slots... this is not theory, its something done and proven..ive setup my friends z820 that way yrs ago and its been in daily use speeds are 3450/3200 read /write

    • @NetBandit70
      @NetBandit70 Год назад

      @@skip741x3 Thanks for the follow-up... but i took the NVMe out and used it elsewhere.

  • @user-mw6gw5yz8z
    @user-mw6gw5yz8z 2 года назад

    Hello sir .
    I need your help sir please.
    SAS 9223 8i.
    There is no driver on bios .
    Server was running smoothly it just restarted than this happened sir please I need your help.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      If you need help with a card you bought from my store, please contact me from my website and tell me the order number and date. I'll be more than happy to help you out. :-)
      If your 9223-8i is in IT mode, you might also want to checkout my troubleshooting video: ruclips.net/video/TC4DovIcGLU/видео.html
      If your 9223-8i is in MegaRAID mode, unfortunately, I don't have any content to help with that right now.

  • @mwils51
    @mwils51 2 года назад +1

    No videos for 5 months? 😩 Hope all is well!

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      Thanks for missing me! I have so many videos I want to make, but I'm getting flooded with questions and people visiting my eBay store I haven't had time to make videos! :-( It's been incredibly busy, but I really miss making videos!

  • @mangoes142
    @mangoes142 2 года назад

    Can't seem to find sas 3 bays. Any idea where I can look for that?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      The one I mentioned in this video and description is a 3-bay SAS capable drive cage. Is that what you're asking?

    • @mangoes142
      @mangoes142 2 года назад

      @@ArtofServer
      Sorry if what I said has confused you. What I meant was 3 bays with sas-3 capabilities. 12 Gbit/s. I've been looking around for days and wonder if the only way is to mod/diy them instead. Any ideas on that?
      Btw, I've been spending lots of time watching your workstation z840. Loving it.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад +1

      @@mangoes142 thanks for the clarification. If you plan to use a SAS-3 controller, as long as the drive cage is direct attached, and supports SAS, chances are it will support SAS-3.

    • @mangoes142
      @mangoes142 2 года назад

      @Art of Server I just realised the cages are direct attached. Sorry. I'm new to this Storage world. I understand now. I'll just plug it to sas-3 controllers. Just watched your vid on z840 sas-3 upgrade. Your channel really helped me out. Thanks a lot!

  • @jerwal83
    @jerwal83 2 года назад +1

    Happy new year, just wondering if anyone installed vmware esxi 6.7 on the hp Z840 and got direct passthrough to work?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      Happy New Year! :-) Sorry, I haven't tried esxi on the HP Z840. However, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do that. what are you trying to direct passthrough? the onboard SAS controller? a GPU? some other PCIe device?

    • @jerwal83
      @jerwal83 2 года назад

      @@ArtofServer thank you for the reply, I managed to fix the issue turns out I needed to install vcenter. From vcenter managing the host I am able to pass through the pice devices in this case it was a GPU. I still find it a little strange from everyone else’s videos it look like they are able to do it directly from the host.
      Thank you once again,
      Jerome

  • @LazyTurtle587
    @LazyTurtle587 2 года назад

    Hi, will MSI GEFORCE RTX 3080 TI SUPRIM X 12GB GDDR6X / GIGABYTE GEFORCE RTX 3080 TI GAMING OC 12GB GDDR6X work on Dell T7910 ?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      I think it should, but I can't get my hands on any RTX GPUs... :-( You will need to power connectors for it...

  • @paolotonolo1140
    @paolotonolo1140 Год назад

    I have a z640 ...been trying to get it to reconize the Hard Drive for the Last week ...it's been Hell :-(

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  Год назад +1

      Check out the HP forums for workstations. Lots of helpful people there!

    • @paolotonolo1140
      @paolotonolo1140 Год назад

      @@ArtofServer I did it...my brain cells ste still boiling...but I did it thanks lol

  • @Mods-Lover
    @Mods-Lover 2 года назад

    Can it run windows 11?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      No idea...

    • @Mods-Lover
      @Mods-Lover 2 года назад

      @@ArtofServer i believe that it can 😅also what other modern cpu coolers can fit inside these? By doing some sort of hack and mod

  • @wangyi6854
    @wangyi6854 2 года назад

    Labeling hard drives is the main reason I don't want to use ZFS. Totally disaster.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад +1

      Hmmm.... I still find it useful to label hard drives even with other storage technologies, not just ZFS.