This Older PC is PRIME for Cheap Upgrades
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- Upgrading the HP z440 makes for a solid budget PC build, and the performance may surprise you.
Specs - Xeon e5-2667 v3 (8 cores), 32 GB DDR4 2133mhz RAM, GTX 1070 GPU. Serious budget gaming.
I'm not cool enough to have a chair desk but I do actually use a TV stand for my PC setup.
😂 Chair desk is top of the line, but I'd say TV/PC is pretty nice as well.
Gotta start somewhere, we can't all soar at the heights of chair desk
G,day @LowcastleTech I just purchased my first HP Z440. Great Video's
All Hail The Almighty Chair Desk🎉
Found you video’s recently, really enjoying them and you style is bit different which is refreshing. These sort of builds are always more interesting than slapping brand new parts together IMO.
Nice, glad you like them! I appreciate the positive feedback 🙂
Love your vids! Just found this and immediately caught my attention due to Z440, which is my daily driver I bought from my friend couple years ago. I run it with e5 1660 v4 and RX 6600 XT, and it run almost everything perfectly!
I appreciate that, thank you! That sounds like an awesome setup. I'm really liking the z440s too, they are super versatile, reasonably priced. A lot of fun.
Those 16 series xeons have so much headroom for an old platform. Im probably upgrading to something like you have soon.
Cool. Congrats on over 500 subs too!
Thank you! It is pretty crazy 🙂
That pseudo IDE cable a gnome seatbelt for driving computers, hahaha. That must have been one of the funniest comment I've ever heard on YT, period!
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This is a very underrated channel. I enjoy your content and you have a great sense of humor! You deserve way more subscribers, keep it up!
Thank you 🙂
Bro I Like Your Content And I Respect It,Dont Worry If Your Video IS NOT Performig,Keep Motivate Yourself And keet It Up
Thank you. The positive feedback and knowing some people like it definitely helps to make it worthwhile. I appreciate that 🙂
Ive been so on the fence about one of these lately. AWESOME grimy video! Subscribed
Awesome, thank you! And yeah, they are pretty legit. A lot of different options in regard to budget upgrades and stuff. I'm liking it a lot so far.
Absolutely hilarious video. Definitely earned a subscription. I 100% agree with everything you've said (I've also been saying as much for years), and coupled with your unique flair and humor this channel definitely immediately jumped up to one of my favorite tech channels full-stop. My YT channel is rather small currently (and not up to my quality standards at all, plus it's dead thanks to moving out of state XD), but this channel has definitely inspired me. Great content! Super eager to watch more.
That's really cool of you to say, thank you!
@@LowcastleTech No problem! You inspired me to go back to my projects and work on them more
@@xPLAYnOfficial Awesome, glad to hear that 🙂
Actually love the vibe of your videos, keep up the great content!
I appreciate that, thank you for watching 🙂
Dunno how I landed here. I mean yeah it my type of content, but never heared of this channel. I normally never write comments on big channels, because I think they will get lost anyway. But I really like the videos here. Kinda unique style. Doing stuff like this my self. If you do it good and can resell some of your projects you can klimb up the price letter of your items. But the process kinda keeps the same.
Yeah I use most of the computers I mess with. I enjoy doing projects like this so when I do sell my computers it's not really to profit, it's just so I can get more hardware/do more projects and such.
As long as the rails are good and the connector is not stressed, it's fine to use the adapter.
I just bought HP Z420, with 8 core Xeon, great machine for upgrade!
You showed up in my recommendations and ended up watching a few of your other videos, hope you keep the uploads :o I like your type of humor
I appreciate that, thank you 🙂
Love your channel man! So happy I stumbled across it lol, keep up the great work :)
Thank you, I appreciate the positive comment! 🙂
This is badass. Keep making videos!
Maybe even more lighting outside of the close ups? The close up lighting was great. But maybe an even bigger light or set up for the standing and talking parts? Either way this is awesome. I like your attitude and your humour haha! Keep it up! 🙌
Thank you, I appreciate that! And I'm with you on the lighting. I'm looking into getting a better lighting setup, probably will need to grab a better camera eventually as well. Nothing crazy but the one I'm using is pretty minimal. 🙂
What can't a chair desk do? Awesome content as always (currently burning through the backlog and I regret nothing)
😃 Chair Desk = Unmatched versatility! And I really appreciate that, thank you for checking them out!
That fluid on the gpu could also be from leaky caps.
Great build. Unfortunately dealers have jumped on the bandwagon and you'll be lucky to buy a bare bones for $50. At least in the UK they range from £120-200 on ebay now. So that stings a bit after buying the upgrades.
I have almost the same setup, but kept the 525w power supply with a GTX1070 by crimping an 8 pin power connector in place of the hard drive power cables. Perfectly stable.
Interesting! That sounds pretty tight. A while ago I was trying to find a cable that might connect the 6pin SATA power out (that many of the older HP models have) to 8pin PCIe. I figured since it is running 3-4 SATA cables from that 6pin connector on the board, that it should have enough juice. But I couldn't find anything relevant, all the results were giving me 6pin PCIe to 8pin PCIe which is not what I wanted. I'm actually not even sure what that 6pin SATA power out is technically, ATX? Any way sounds like you were able to just make something for yourself, that really is awesome.
Which cpu you use ?
Just stumbled upon this video and your channel and I absolutely loved the video I love your sense of humor too haha it's awesome, definitely gonna keep up with your videos now :D
Awesome, thank you! 🙂
Has anyone thought of this, that castle tech has now become a new branch of comedy. I laugh loads at the humour, but my wife does not. :) Love it
yup keep up the great work!!! Like i said try the dell precision they are easier to work in.. plus they have modular supplies... mine came with 685 but u can get 825 or 1300 and their fricken cheap AF ... i just needed to add an exhaust fan, when I added my 1080ti.... ooo yeah and the dell comes with 2 6 pin pcie cables for gpu... with another unpopulated 8 pin on the dell poweredge connecter
Noice. That is a serious bonus to have those GPU connectors on a machine from that timeframe. Opens up a lot of options 🙂
Thanks for making this video. I wasn't aware of the Z440 platform and its potential. I'll have to show this video to my nephew that's interested in a PC. However, I'm more thankful for Chair-Desk. I feel like I've gained +5 to "Awesomeness" for witnessing it.
Sure thing, thank you for watching! And I am absolutely with you on Chair Desk 🙂. I think it could feasibly be considered the 8th Wonder of the World!
Pretty good upgrades I saw this deal on ebay a while back and thought it was pretty good aswell
Definitely, and the z440s are a lot of fun to mess around with in regard to upgrades and stuff like that.
nice content, love your dynamic a true youtube gem, i also like a lot the shorts.
Awesome, I appreciate that! Thank you for watching 🙂
Your videos remind me of the great times before the internet got commercialized to death. Pure niche joy!
🙂Glad you like it, I appreciate that. And thanks for watching!
I think it would be fun to cluster a bunch of these z440 computers together into a supercomputer... I'm not sure what I'd use it for, but I think it would be fun.
wearing your blazer I see, lol. old Lowcastle my homie, sweet video
I use an "old" Workstation from Lenovo for the last years, 2* 8 cores/16threads Xeons, 16GB RAM per CPU, upgraded SSD and an NVidia 1050ti and an USB3 upgrade-card.
Runs really smooth, not as fast as a modern build, but it is silent and built like a tank.
That's awesome. I really like the idea of keeping older hardware alive, keeping it from going to waste. It's a big part of why I do these projects, I end up using most of the computers like the one in this vid. I like the sound of that setup 🙂
i run a HP z620 with 2x E5-2690's. i do run linux but i game quite well with this machine on a 144hz monitor.
@@leerobinson8709 Nice 🙂
I’m working on a budget build off. Got my hands on a sweet z440 deal. Thanks for the great ideas, love your unique delivery and edits!
I've been rocking this system for a whole year now and I love it though the main reason it's hard to hold up compared to the new systems with their superior cpus. Though I more or less want a case swap for mine it's just no one has done it before.
You’re funny dude! Instant like and subscribe. Looking forward to more content.
That is awesome, thank you!
Another great video Keep up the great work And I love chair desk
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I was not expecting to laugh while watching a pc guide... Cool vid.
🙂 Thank you!
Oh, I give up. Subscribed! Keep on rocking the chair desk!
🙂 Appreciate it!
These videos remind me of proto-Clint from LGR. Keep it up. I would advise you to create a quick intro graphic thing.
That happy birthday 🎉 made a lifetime sub 😂
😄 Thank you!
Just bought one great recommendation
That's a freaking beast! I just got a z240 with i7 6700 and put a 1070 in that. Great budget option!
🙂Very true. And awesome find! The z240s are really solid budget machines as well.
I have one of these relics. Best $240 au I ever spent. Ran a E5 1620 v4 16 GB ram 256 g ssd. Quadro k2200. Since upgraded to E5 2680 v3 64 GB 500 GB nvme pcie. 700 watt PSU. Had to buy ram cooler for $70 au. Yet to upgrade GPU. All up I spent a further $150 au. I only upgraded because it was so simple. Cheers.
Awesome, that sounds like a pretty sweet setup. I had the same issue with the cooling, getting the BIOS message because I'm using every RAM slot. Haven't got the RAM fan yet, so instead I just forced an extra case fan in there using the Molex connection and rigged it together with double sided tape 😂. Actually works pretty well for extra cooling, but I still get the "please get a memory fan" message.
I saw on Ebay a HP Z640 Workstation 2x Xeon E5-2699 V4, do you think this is a good buy, or will a new mid-range modern set-up be a better purchase?
🙂 I have a Z200 in my library, its a regular consumer first gen i series platform, it can take i3 and i5 and i7 and some Xeons, rite out of the box, no bios update needed
Heck yeah. I like your style!
@@LowcastleTech ☺ thanks
It's good. Though careful thought about GPU upgrades, as some cards are too tall.
The NVME Hard drive gets me every time. Lol
Ahh, the z440, a wonderful system. So much lifespan for a system it's age.
Definitely. They are really solid from my experience so far.
@@LowcastleTech Since you're the only other person I've found who seems to know about this system, can I make a request for a future video? Hell, forget the video, I just want advice on something. I've migrated my z440 to a consumer PC case, an antec 900, and I'm trying to iron out every kink and incompatibility. The biggest one by far though is the power switch. the z440 has a power button mounted to the motherboard in the back, which I've been using, but having the case button would be such an improvement. the back's kinda hard to access for me. Issue is, the z440 is designed for an entire PCB-mounted front panel, and no-one anywhere as far as I can tell has figured out which 2 pins are the power switch pins. I'd use trial and error, except that the front panel PCB has USB 2 and sound in it as well, so shorting the wrong pins will send 5v power directly into a data pin. You probably know a fair bit more about computers in general than I do, and have roots in the right hobbyist forums, is there any way you can think of to find the pinout?
@@curvingfyre6810 I had this exact same problem with the HP prodesk G1, they have the weird proprietary pinout that's like impossible to find information on. Even read through the motherboard manual and couldn't find it. I eventually was able to get it working for that machine, let me make sure it's the same on the z440 and that I still have the generic power button laying around. If so, i'll make a quick video on it. maybe post it later this evening as a short or something. I'll post the link here once I get it (assuming it is the same).
@@LowcastleTech thank you so much, thats gonna be a huge resource for a lot of people!
@@curvingfyre6810 Hey, if you still need z440 pinout for generic power button, I just dropped a short. ruclips.net/user/shortsTVL7DCAVog4?feature=share
hope that helps!
The gnomes will live... As long as they don't recklessly drive their PCs down any internet highways.
I hope so, gnomes are certainly known for being mischievous.
thanks, you are the funniest tool on earth!
Love your type of videos! Shoutout from germany, keep it up. Im laughing every video too lmao
Awesome, glad you like it! And thank you for watching 🙂
I love tinkering with old tech as well but more so for VR testing. Recently tried to play VRChat on and old AM3 DDR2 machine with 8 GB of 1066 RAM and a Phenom ii x4 940 that came with a RX 480 8GB i snagged off a coworker for 100 bucks. The game just refuses to run haha. Other DX 12 games though work and run with no issues and surprisingly really well on a 2009 rig.
Though when it comes to office machine conversions to gaming machines I find I have too many lenovos lol.. i should sell em or something xD
Awesome. I've never really had a chance to get into VR, that sounds like a lot of fun though. And I'm right there with you on having too many upgraded office PCs 🙂. I've been selling off a few of mine here and there, but that's mainly just so I can buy more of them and do more projects. It is a vicious cycle 😂
I have a 36 core z840 that performs well and got a z6 that im gonna top off with 48 cores and see how it does. never had a problem w these work stations.
😃That's alotta cores. Sounds sweet, I've never tried either of those 2, but they look pretty beast-mode.
I hate whenever I invite a bunch of people over for dinner...and they ALL sit on my many chair-desks...savages.
I am both shocked and appalled. There is just no excuse for that kind of behavior!
running a Z640 e5 2643 v3 20gb 2133 with a rx 570 4gb right now. workstations are the way to go. HP Zs are more functional than Dell precisions.
Awesome! I've never got to mess with the 640 before, but they look legit. Very nice 🙂
The cooler is terrible. I'm hoping the new one does better. Because stock cooler got up to 77C
Q: if I add a 1080ti gpu which is 2- 8pin sockets for my z440 then I have to buy 2-6pin to 8 pin connectors, right? Will any do or are there ones I definitely have to buy like HP OEM connectors?
I think a RTX 3060 or RX 6600 XT would pair nicely with this setup. Had seen another channel (Miyconst) where an identical Xeon setup was paired with a RX 5700 XT with no issues.
That does sound pretty tight. I focus a lot on tightening down budget builds, but one day I'm going to have to grab a decent card like one of those and give it a shot. Would be cool to push it to the upper limits and see what it can really do.
Hi. How did you solve the problem with the 8 pin PCIe for GPU? I just bought RTX 3060 and Z440 have 2x 6-pin from 700W Power supply...
Funny and enlightening . Great job. 😇🤖🤠
🙂 Thank you
I bought the same machine from the same seller 😂 Love your videos btw.
🙂 That is awesome. They are a lot of fun, solid system. And I appreciate you saying that, thank you for watching!
Took out the quadro 600 and replaced it on my z420 -2690 i bought yesterday and it has a 600 w cpu but it wont boot with the radeon hd 7770 2gb card, i plugged in the 6 pin connector but it only beeps for times and the power button flashes red and turns of ...why wont it accept that simple card if the Power Supply is original 600 w ? It boots with the quadro card tho...please help me i bought it for my son to game i we were planning to get an even better graphic card than mine we tested with from my old htpc , so please help why won't it boot with another card ...?
Could you explain more about the issue with the power adapter for the GPU you mentioned?
I was thinking about getting a 1070 for my T5500, and doing the same dual 6 pin to 8 pin.
Thanks.
Yeah, for sure. The dual 6 pin to single 8 pin should be fine, but the reason I mention it is that, just in general, most of the research I do says to avoid using any kind of adapters with a PSU. Usually this has to do with people trying to force power where they shouldn't. Though I've also heard of poorly made adapters getting too hot and melting down, stuff like that. It also might just be some people being overly cautious, at least when it comes to this adapter specifically. The one I've been using has worked fine so far, I haven't felt it get too hot or anything. Technically speaking everything lines up power-wise, (dual 75w to 150w). Also, I've seen GPUs that come with that kind of adapter in the box when you buy them. So everything points to it being perfectly fine, it's possible that I just worry a bit too much. 🙂
Dude sounds like "The Brain"...
"NORF" 😆😆😆😆
Spent more of a motherboard for my Skylake desktop
But the desktop was free and was already a moderate gaming pc
You'll be surprised what you can get when you just ask your friends.
I was about to build a pretty crappy PC but my friend gave me his old broken desktop which I couldn't have thought about otherwise
Very nice. Hard to beat a free PC!
Just ordered a z440 for $220 with 1650v4, 32GB ram, 700 watt psu and a 512GB SSD with windows 10 Pro on it. I will be taking my other SSDs out of my current i5 2500k system and rx 6650 xt! Question is can I use any m.2 adapter if I want to add a nvme drive?
Nice, sounds like a solid build. And yes, you should be able to use an m.2 to PCIe adapter, that's what I have going on with mine. There is something called the "HP Z Turbo Drive" specifically made for them, that is usually like 15 bucks on eBay. That's what I use, but I imagine any generic m.2 to PCIe should work.
@@LowcastleTech Do you have it as a boot drive? Anything special to get it as the boot drive? Also is this the adapter HP Z Turbo G2 M.2 PCIe Adapter Card 742006-003.
hey bro i hope you are well.
can you help me i want to install nvidia rtx 3070 in hp z640.
and can we change the power supply in it..
The whole spice that is coming is the 8 pin connector inside the graphics card which is not there in this machine..
then what do i do and how to install..
Plz help me thanks..
Does it have USB3, if not, then that 1x slot and missing plate at the top is a perfect place to add it
Also, looking up the options, it's "how many cores do you want", with that 8 core being 200Mhz base / 100Mhz peak below the 6 core, with the 10 core dropping another 200MHz
The "uniprocessor" E5-1860 V3 is 100MHz better for an 8 core, but I'm betting the "dual CPU" E5-2667 V3 is way cheaper and more available as server pulls
It does have USB 3, but thanks for the tip, I have a lot of old hardware so can always use suggestions 🙂. And yeah, as far as the CPU there are a bunch of options with the older Xeons, but I was trying to focus more on price/budget for this build, and landed on the 2667 mostly because they are super cheap. Thank you for dropping a comment!
I love your videos bro! Keep up the good work!
🙂 Thank you!
Another question. Is 32gb of ram needed for gaming? Or will I be fine with 16?
16gb should be good for the majority of games
Great video! How can I find if a CPU is compatible with my motherboard ? Thanks
Thank you! Typically you can just go to google and search for "name of your motherboard + socket type", or type name of your board along with "compatible processors" or something like that. Also, a lot of manufacturers have spec sheets for their motherboards that will include info like compatible processors on their websites.
@@LowcastleTech Thanks!
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Hi! Help me, please. I just bought an RTX 3060 GPU and it requires an additional 8-pin power supply from the PSU. However, it doesn't have one, but there are two 6-pins that I have plugged into the front panel audio. Can I use them with a 2x 6-pin to 8-pin adapter?
Generally, the dual 6-pin PCIe to 8-pin adapters are ok to use. Typically, you want to use caution with power adapters, but each 6-pin carries 75 watts and the 8 pin is a 150 watt draw. So they do have enough power and are pretty common. I've used them in the past as well. If you do grab one, I would just say try to look for a reputable brand and keep an eye on it when you are first using it and whatnot. From what I've seen they seem to be fine. Hope that helps!
@@LowcastleTech Yes, u are help me. Just bought adapter and use now. Right now is normal. Thank u!
My PC has its own desk 😎
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I don't have a spare chair, but I can put a computer ATX box on my lap while sitting on a chair. Does that count? It's quite hot though.......and my legs hurt now.........and I need a wee.
Edit: you really don't need to spend $1.5/2k+ to just play games, most mid range sytems is all you need.
😂I'll count it. In fact sounds like you're getting full utilization of the chair desk!
Can I run the intel core i3 9100 with this pc ?
Will only this specific PSU work with this? Or could you buy a standard one?
I've thought about trying a standard PSU, and it looks like it might be possible, but there are a few potential issues. One is that you would need a couple adapters. A 24 pin to 18 and an 8 pin to 12, to feed both non-standard power connectors on the board. While they do make these, using any kind of adapter for power is generally discouraged as it may cause issues. Also, there is the weird proprietary shape of the z440 PSU, which is frustrating. While it may be possible to cut/modify the case manually, this would likely be a challenge. So it looks like it is possible, with a standard PSU that had enough connectors/adapters but I haven't tried it yet, and is difficult to say how it would go, and how it would pan out long term.
@@LowcastleTech Thanks for the response, and great vid. Halfway tempted to pick up one of these. I've always been fascinated by xeons, and the fact you can get the memory for so cheap on top of that
is a big selling point.
@@steamedauroraborealis8208 No problem, thank you for watching! And yeah I've really been liking this model so far. A lot of Xeon options, almost all of them super cheap. And like you said, RAM is not bad either. Solid budget machines.
chair desk yay
🙂 Chair Desk never fails!!!
What screw driver size did you use?
It was a bit ago, but I think it was a 3.5mm flathead.
I have a z400, 6 ram slots is weird, itsu first pc to have stock 6 pin power so yay for that, also the only BMW design I will ever own...for 80 bucks anyway😂
Dude, you are hilarious!
🙂 Thank you!
I'm pretty sure you just pushed the pcie cover locks the wrong way.
🙂 That sounds like something I would do.
Yeah, I’m still using the floor
😂 That's fair. Floor-desk tends to be more spacious than most chair-desk models, so perfectly understandable! 🙂
k u got me LOL .. love the style lol !! new sub from me :)
🙂 I appreciate it!
this guy edits like it's 2010
Wait, it's not 2010?
@@LowcastleTech unfortunately no :(
@@maxHeadroom325rayxerin 🙂 Dang, I need to pay better attention.
Old toothbrush and rubbing achol... will clean back of GPU
I could see you rising. Like Ryzen. Among the overrated Intel. AKA LinusTechTips.
Exactly wrong! But you knew that.
(Ado - if you didn't.)
I’m not sure if this guy is trying to be, but he’s funny as shit. Also, I would never buy that computer. It looks like it smells.
I have a z440 but my idiot friend lost the ram sticks when the motherboard killed itself. Great machine just can’t find ram that’s compatible
Lucky me… 😤
That sucks. I was able to find some on eBay. DDR4 2133, it has to be the ECC version though. Sometimes it will pop up for pretty cheap, but fluctuates just like pretty much any other used equipment. Sorry to hear that though!
Make more vids I'm subscribed
Nice! Thank you!
at the lowest I find only hp z400 for 120$ cad ...
Yeah it can be hit or miss. I got this and another one for $50 US. They were practically a barebones type deal, and I haven't seen them that cheap since. But, I usually try to check a lot and stay aware of the specs as well. For example, I just got another z440 (I may have a problem 😂). It cost a good bit more, at around $150 US. But it had a decent GPU, 32 GB RAM, and the 700 watt PSU. All things that are necessary, that the $50 deal didn't come with. I'd say the key for me has been to check obsessively, and keep an eye on the specs most importantly. Finding a good component to price balance can be just as good as finding something super cheap.
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What is with this "NVMe hard drive?" did I miss something?
It's just the HP Z Turbo drive thing. Not as fast with the adapter, but it is still a lot faster than a 2.5" SSD (or at least the specs say it is). Seems to have better performance.
Way way too much thermal paste.
Cringe
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