Thanks, I appreciate the comment. As a brief general update: I love this thing even more. Portable, reliable, lights, mudguards, regen brakes, cruise control; all for about half the cost & weight of a cheap e-bike.
@@theevolvingworld I'll have to let my fiance know. He's the one looking for a scooter as a cheaper way to travel to work, compared to him usually taking the city bus. If you don't mind my curiosity, would you say that buying an extra battery is a good idea when it comes to this scooter? Does the scooter burn its battery within a few days of normal use for you?
The base model ES2 has the first battery which is enclosed within the metal stem piece. The ES4 adds a second battery which is the black plastic casing on the vertical stem piece. That's what costs $200 more, adds 5 lbs., increases power, & doubles the range to about 20 miles real world (advertised at 28). Those are the two factory options. When you operate the ES4, both batteries are in unison & discharge equally, i.e. when at 50% they are both at 50%, not one at 100% & the other at 0%. Depending on how many miles per use you anticipate would determine which one is right for you. I wish there was even bigger battery version or a way to swap both batteries out quickly. The battery seems to hold it's charge pretty well over time. There's a slight self discharge, but not much . Hope that helps.
@@theevolvingworld Yes, that helps quite a bit! Thank you for spending the time to reply and give me a bit more info to help with making our decision on a scooter.
Went over 120 miles on mines over the past 12 months and still goes strong. Had to spray silicone spray on the rear wheel bearings as they began making a crackling noise. Noise now very minimal to non existent. Definitely a fun reliable ride 😎👍🤙
@@judyr.4825 I've gone over 475 miles so far and no major issues. The rear wheel bearing is making a slight noise but im sure oil will quiet that down.
When you "fre roll" with the scoter it will regenerative break automaticly. If you use the break "pedal" it will drain battery to stop the motor fast. Breaking hard with an electric engine works by controller shift form AC to DC creating a static magnetic field slowing down the enigen. the higher volt used the faster it will stop. So to regenerative breaking just let it roll.
That's sounds fun on ultra smooth surfaces & more power to get up hills. Just be careful on the street with rocks, twigs, etc.! How much less range do you get?
Es2 i upgraded to es4 348mi/five hundred something Km and these Philadelphia Streets have best it up pretty bad, but it still rides very well. I am very hard on my gear and this is holding up so far.
Everyone do me a favor and dont waste your money on this crap.its very slow and underpowered. My kid got the xaomi 365 and it blows the doors off the segway in every way
I just bought an ES2+battery about a month ago at this point, great product aside from a creaking that's developed when putting weight on the back end of the board. Edit: also the front tire has barely any tread in the center after about 100 miles on Sport mode
So you cut off a bit I thought was interesting. You mentioned something about only charging it to 95% is this correct? Great review. I'm about to go buy one this afternoon.
I’ve had mine for about a month and it’s the best thing I’ve ever bought. Just be careful not to have your handle bar grip to close to your throttles because it can cause it to get stuck. 🛴
Thanks. You don't. When you add the second battery (to make it an ES4 vs ES2), they sync to each other & discharge/recharge equally. You can access their status thru the app.
Is there any scooters that allow to be more in a standing feet next to each position? Having one foot behind the other seems uncomfortable and less stable to me.
Yes, when it's "off", you can ride it like any other kick scooter. If you are starting on top of steep hill, you can turn it "on" & regen brake down to charge the battery.
Brakes are a joke. Seriously dangerous. It's weak as hell on even small inclines. Deceleration makes you feel very unstable as the front bar pushes forward a lot. I used mine for 5 months as commuter and it did okay until the battery starting giving faults. The licker was I bought from Amazon and Segway would never answer their support phone nor return calls for service. Lucky for me Amazon gave me 600.00 back.
Did u ever ride this in rainy weather. Just a question. I want to know if i can ride 22 kilometres a day and sometimes in rainy weather, without struggling with the ES4 in any ways. U think its possible?
No I have not ridden in the rain. The owner's manual says not to. Perhaps some of the negative comments about these breaking, might be from doing that. Mine has been working flawless. 22km would be easy to do (that's only about 13.7 miles).
@@theevolvingworld god dammit. I live in a very rainy country... but i need a cheap transport method🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 struuuuggleee. But yearh, i think the reason why other owners of ES4 struggles with it, is because the have bin ridden in rainy conditions. Do u know any electric scooters on the market that might have the potential for riding in rainy conditions. I cant actually find any informations about that on the internet🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@danielstoltenborg Sorry, I don't know of any. Electronics & water don't mix very well. But, somebody should make a weatherproof e-scooter. There's definitely a market for one. Also, one with more battery & more power! I'll keep a lookout for when the next gen e-scooters come out. I might even get another one (and do a review of it) if it's significantly better than all the current models.
Nice review, did the app know the odometer from the scooter's previous owner or did it just start counting from the time you paired it... I ask because I'm looking at a used one and wondering if I can find out the mileage to gauge battery wear
We're back from 28 days in Hawaii. Fortunately, the odometer is permanent & not reset-able. Mine is still going strong with no problems. Wish I could have taken it on a plane.
@@theevolvingworld thanks for replying, I ended up buying a ES4 with just under 200 miles on it (scooter definitely tracks odometer across owners)... Seems to be a really great scooter, looking forward to some warmer weather to ride it.
@@theevolvingworld No. When I opened the box and saw no hand brake I knew it was a no go. Went for a ride and confirmed they will definitely have some lawsuits coming.
@@yourgooglemeister6745 The front brake is regen off the motor & the rear brake is your foot down on the fender. It's not the best going down hill or at higher speeds.
I got a issue I'm trying to solve. I have creaking coming from the back suspension of my scooter. I've uploaded a video onto my RUclips channel. Please can somebody take a look and tell me what the problem may be. THANK YOU
Is the battery detachable? I’m curious because a) id like to know if I can purchase, charge, and carry multiple batteries and b) I want to know if I can fly with this. You can’t put lithium ion batteries in your checked luggage but you CAN put them in your carry on Anyone know the answer?
The two battery packs are not easily detachable. And unfortunately it is NOT allowed on a plane, period. I know it sucks. I wanted to take it on two overseas vacations earlier this year, which is why I know.
Not very good on hills. You'll need it in Sport Mode all the time, just to get up most hills. Half the battery is inside the vertical bar & half is the black plastic part. Both need to be present for it balance while charging. It's only 32 lbs and folds, just roll it in & charge it under the table.
Really good review! Can you turn the blinkning lights off when you brake aswell? And if u install the extra battery, do they work together? Or only one at a time for longer range. And can u make the blinkning bluethooth icon stop blink
Thanks. No, if you use the regen brake, it will turn on the brake lights. I imagine you could snip some wires to make it not. Yes, when you install the second battery it up's the range & power. The BMS balances all the cells as one whole pack. Real world range is about 20 miles (not the 28 listed) in standard mode. The Bluetooth icon blinks when your NOT connected to the app. Don't need the app to operate, but for some of the features, you will.
How fast did it go? It looked really really slow. In europe the limit for a scooter is 25km/hour (have no idea of the conversion) but this ninebot looked like max 20km/h and more likely 15km/h. correct or no?
19.6 indicated, which is about 31.5km. I've seen 22 with a slight down slope. I say "indicated" because that's all I got. However, in the future, I will test it with a GPS system.
Funny story about Segway: A Chinese company was making knock-offs of the original Segway and made so much money from it that they actually BOUGHT the legit Segway company. Crazy.
That's about right to the limit. Depends on hills, weight of rider, & mostly speed. Average about 10-12 MPH should be easy. Average 18 MPH @ full throttle, not going to make it. Hope it works out!
Assuming you started with 100% (five solid bars) and you were going max speed in "sport mode", maybe with a headwind, in cooler weather, it would be about right. One solid bar & the second flashing is about 30% or about another 7km. Drop it down out of "sport" to "standard mode". Also, try wearing less baggy clothes for less wind resistance. Doing those two things should get you up to 28-30km.
@@theevolvingworld just another question , my scooter has started making a squeeky noise , I've uploaded a video of the fault which I think could be suspension if you could please take a look. Thank you
Does this have solid tires? I have a Xiaomi and it gets flat tires quite often as I ride on bumpy roads quite often. Thinking about switching to this. Thanks~
You can get solid tyres for the Xiaomi. I did. Unless you have the proper tools, experience, and a place to do it, don't try and change them yourself. I did, and failed. Had to get the fitters at work to do it. The ride gets a LOT bumpier though. But, no more punctures.
They call it external battery but not the type that is easy to swap by click or snap. It is attached with the screws to the mainframe, built in battery.
No, the ES2 is the same as the ES4 but with half the battery, a top speed of 15.5 MPH vs 18.6 MPH, & 700 watts of power vs 800. The ES3 is the bigger battery version of the ES1. No: cruise control, rear suspension, under lights, taillights, & 15.5 MPH top speed with only 600 watts of power.
That's easy. Your in "speed limit mode" which limits it to 9.5 MPH. Double click the power button, you'll see an "S" that's "standard mode" about 16 MPH. Double click again and you'll see a red "S" that "sport mode" about 19 MPH. Enjoy!
That sucks, sounds like you got a ES3. It's probably doesn't have sport mode or cruise control either. They are pretty sneaky at making them all look so similar.
Mine too. I think you got what I did which was a version they made for Lime and Lime backed out so they had an oversupply. I don't mind the non folding or non underlight; however, mine is now only going 19kph and I have reconnected the battery, rebooted the thing, and the speed is still slooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwww. Any ideas?
Yes, you can. But, only in "speed limit mode" from approx. 3-9 MPH. Note: that's about the ONLY way you will ever get near the advertised 28 mile range. Expect more like 18 mile range in standard mode. Even less in Sport mode.
@@theevolvingworld How much range can you get out of it with the extra battery? I'm considering buying this scooter because it's seems the best option for me (price/range&quality wise)
I've ridden through some moderate muddy puddles and the splashguards work. The user manual says: (section 9) Do not ride the scooter in the rain. Also, Do not charge if the cable or port is wet.
Do you mean the handlebars? Yes, over time mine loosened up & all four screws were half way out (very wobbly). I tighten them all down. It's much better, now. If they come loose again, I'll use some threadlock like loctite.
I’m around the same weight as you and mine is fine. I just tighten up the suspension to carry my extra 10kg. You’ll need an 8mm hex to tighten the suspension.
I'm a bit heavier than u by a few kgs and es2+ extra battery gets me up some hills at 20km/h speed. I was struggling with my old 300w novoku one but the segway is great. I've done about 125km and no problems with my weight so far.
i actually dont know how heavy i am because last time i was 110 now im around 120 kg or less so i ordered the es4 but im to scary that it break in two pieces 😂 And really that far? is it so strong then
@@spooky9067 I'm about 113kg and sometimes I have my laptop in my bag which makes it about 115kg for scooter to carry and I've had no problems with my board. It has not broken yet and I don't think it would unless I did jumped on it. I don't recommend upgrading firmware to v.0.1.4.7 because I had problems with my max speed going from 30 km per hour to 26 km per hour after the update.
Yes, the external battery comes off & you can buy more. It weighs about 3.3 lbs. The BMS balances both packs as one, though. Stay tuned to the channel. I have plans to do a tear-down of the external battery & modify it to double the capacity. Maybe 6.6 lbs instead of 3.3.
I am looking for a scooter just to use between work and home. In my country this one is around 660 USD.. The Xiaomi m365 is around 350 dollars. Have someone tried them both, is almost double the price worth it for this one?
M365 is comparable to the Segway es2 which is less range round trip.....the es3 and es4 have an extra battery for a greater 28mile range and regenerative braking.....air filled on m365 vs solid tires on segway which means no popped tires. I have the es3 I think it's a great solid scooter worth the money
This is not a good value scooter at all, look at the zero 8 or fluid free ride horizon, much better, 500 watt motor 20+ miles in range, and has decent suspension unlike the ninebots.
Well ur comment made me feel better because I literally just purchased a fluid free ride horizon and this guys review made me start questioning before it even got here! Lol Thanks
Segway makes absolute junk! Customer service is almost non existent. I recently bought a new ES4 Kickscooter that lasted 10 days before it died. After a month I was finally sent a replacement, which also no longer even turns on. Currently trying to get refunded, but being ignored by the "company". Good luck to you if you choose to buy one of their products.
I just ordered this on amazon. Your review is by far the most thorough. Thank you so much for this. I just subscribed.
Thanks. Some time this winter, we'll be modifying it to double the range. Stay tuned.
@@theevolvingworld How do you expect to double the range on this?
@@blakelandry By doubling the battery pack capacity.
This is one of the more detailed reviews I've seen of this scooter, very informational. Thank you for being so thorough with this review!
Thanks, I appreciate the comment. As a brief general update: I love this thing even more. Portable, reliable, lights, mudguards, regen brakes, cruise control; all for about half the cost & weight of a cheap e-bike.
@@theevolvingworld I'll have to let my fiance know. He's the one looking for a scooter as a cheaper way to travel to work, compared to him usually taking the city bus. If you don't mind my curiosity, would you say that buying an extra battery is a good idea when it comes to this scooter? Does the scooter burn its battery within a few days of normal use for you?
The base model ES2 has the first battery which is enclosed within the metal stem piece. The ES4 adds a second battery which is the black plastic casing on the vertical stem piece. That's what costs $200 more, adds 5 lbs., increases power, & doubles the range to about 20 miles real world (advertised at 28). Those are the two factory options.
When you operate the ES4, both batteries are in unison & discharge equally, i.e. when at 50% they are both at 50%, not one at 100% & the other at 0%.
Depending on how many miles per use you anticipate would determine which one is right for you. I wish there was even bigger battery version or a way to swap both batteries out quickly.
The battery seems to hold it's charge pretty well over time. There's a slight self discharge, but not much . Hope that helps.
@@theevolvingworld Yes, that helps quite a bit! Thank you for spending the time to reply and give me a bit more info to help with making our decision on a scooter.
Went over 120 miles on mines over the past 12 months and still goes strong. Had to spray silicone spray on the rear wheel bearings as they began making a crackling noise. Noise now very minimal to non existent. Definitely a fun reliable ride 😎👍🤙
How is the es4 running after one year ??
@@judyr.4825 I've gone over 475 miles so far and no major issues. The rear wheel bearing is making a slight noise but im sure oil will quiet that down.
@@ibeemeeintp3033 Is it still running great?
When you "fre roll" with the scoter it will regenerative break automaticly. If you use the break "pedal" it will drain battery to stop the motor fast. Breaking hard with an electric engine works by controller shift form AC to DC creating a static magnetic field slowing down the enigen. the higher volt used the faster it will stop. So to regenerative breaking just let it roll.
I dont get what is the free roll breaking
Thanks for such an amazing video.
You covered more information about this scooter than all the other videos in RUclips. Keep up the good work
This scooter is amazing , I have the ES4 , flashed it to go up to 22 mph 🛴
That's sounds fun on ultra smooth surfaces & more power to get up hills. Just be careful on the street with rocks, twigs, etc.! How much less range do you get?
@Walter White me too!!
How??? It's not like the M365
I hacked mine also does 24mph I think I'm going to make a video
@Walter White I will try hopefully I have time
Es2 i upgraded to es4 348mi/five hundred something Km and these Philadelphia Streets have best it up pretty bad, but it still rides very well. I am very hard on my gear and this is holding up so far.
Wow! Thank you so helpful. Review is very in depth.
Thanks. Many more to come.
Love my 4es because of the spire (shocks) and the dual battery.
Very good review. Seriously thinking about picking one of these up now.
Everyone do me a favor and dont waste your money on this crap.its very slow and underpowered. My kid got the xaomi 365 and it blows the doors off the segway in every way
Don't buy scooter, terrible many issues headlight battery code 42 46 and 48. And I've only ridden 148 miles
Thank you- holding off for now after your real world feedback!
@Walter White search the web for.... headlight issue es4 code....
@@joseph-is-my-name go ahead and get one and let me know what u think.i tried to warn everyone
I love how you mounted the camera first person so it's like I'm reviewing it myself cool vid
Thanks. Sondors step E-bike review coming in July.
good revue. one thing i wish it had was air tires.
Great in-depth review. Found one for $699 free shipping
Nyc Jeff how’s that? Instead of talking shit how about explain some. Otherwise your statement is just an blank opinion
LOL alixepress sell for 400 somehwere +Free shiping
@@sampla86 i bet its used one then
@@sampla86 Plus I was buying stuff from alixepress i got it delivered to my house
I think it should flash when you ride and then become solid red when braking instead
I agree. Or a solid light that get's brighter when you brake (like most cars).
Almost the best review... Pity he hadnt told us we needed a phone to activate the scooter...Daaaaaa
I saw a homeless guy charging his phone on the street yesterday. What's your station in life that this becomes and issue for you?
@@kcor4 Couldnt take critic...Your in the wrong game...Fake Fool
best review I've seen
Thanks for such a great, in-depth review.
Glad you found it useful! Please like, subscribe, & share. More to come.
I just bought an ES2+battery about a month ago at this point, great product aside from a creaking that's developed when putting weight on the back end of the board.
Edit: also the front tire has barely any tread in the center after about 100 miles on Sport mode
Random Gabe how much miles you get on one charging?
Wish I would have seen this before I just ordered a horizon fluid free ride. Good review!
Get a refund
Far more cost effective than using public transport (London and Paris)
I want to get either ninebot es4 or ninebot gokart, and I want to use those two purely for fun and I don’t know which one to choose.
Get go kart if you just wanna have fun
The go kart is pathetic definitely go for the scooter
just noticed you hacksawed your arm rest just like me, a great workout :)
So you cut off a bit I thought was interesting. You mentioned something about only charging it to 95% is this correct? Great review. I'm about to go buy one this afternoon.
Great video very informative and helpful
I’ve had mine for about a month and it’s the best thing I’ve ever bought. Just be careful not to have your handle bar grip to close to your throttles because it can cause it to get stuck. 🛴
I wanna buy one but I’m scared because of the reviews from amazon saying they break in 3 days and the customer service is awful.
Luis Villalobos get it directly from Segway or any approved Segway retailers. I live in New Zealand and the customer service is great.
Great video, I was curious tho... how do you switch from regular battery to external in the app? Or in general... thanks!
Thanks. You don't. When you add the second battery (to make it an ES4 vs ES2), they sync to each other & discharge/recharge equally. You can access their status thru the app.
Is there any scooters that allow to be more in a standing feet next to each position? Having one foot behind the other seems uncomfortable and less stable to me.
Is there an adjustment for the front electronic brake ? because mine does not stop you for a long time
What is the UN number for this product
Please, is there any way To know the total Km passed by the ninebot Es4 ?
What if if internal battery is completely dead will the scooter still run with just the external battery ?
I would think not, as both batteries charge & discharge equally.
Thanks for your video. Is it easy to find Ride without the battery if it dies on you while ur out?
Yes, when it's "off", you can ride it like any other kick scooter. If you are starting on top of steep hill, you can turn it "on" & regen brake down to charge the battery.
Nice review. I'm looking at their kickstarter one coming out.
Thanks! I'll have to look into it.
Can you share the link?
Can you use the scooter with the external battery removed.?
dude.... u broke down every little detail.. great job... a big thank you....
Thanks !
Brakes are a joke. Seriously dangerous. It's weak as hell on even small inclines. Deceleration makes you feel very unstable as the front bar pushes forward a lot. I used mine for 5 months as commuter and it did okay until the battery starting giving faults. The licker was I bought from Amazon and Segway would never answer their support phone nor return calls for service. Lucky for me Amazon gave me 600.00 back.
WT COLLECTOR And you got to keep the scooter?
I have the es3 breaks are great my friend has an es4 breaks suck
Did you not use the foot brake?
Excellent review
Does it fold?
Did u ever ride this in rainy weather. Just a question. I want to know if i can ride 22 kilometres a day and sometimes in rainy weather, without struggling with the ES4 in any ways. U think its possible?
No I have not ridden in the rain. The owner's manual says not to. Perhaps some of the negative comments about these breaking, might be from doing that. Mine has been working flawless. 22km would be easy to do (that's only about 13.7 miles).
@@theevolvingworld god dammit. I live in a very rainy country... but i need a cheap transport method🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 struuuuggleee. But yearh, i think the reason why other owners of ES4 struggles with it, is because the have bin ridden in rainy conditions. Do u know any electric scooters on the market that might have the potential for riding in rainy conditions. I cant actually find any informations about that on the internet🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@danielstoltenborg Sorry, I don't know of any. Electronics & water don't mix very well. But, somebody should make a weatherproof e-scooter. There's definitely a market for one. Also, one with more battery & more power!
I'll keep a lookout for when the next gen e-scooters come out. I might even get another one (and do a review of it) if it's significantly better than all the current models.
Did you say 'wheel it around the airport'? Are these allowed on airplanes??
That was the plan, before I found out... No, these are not allowed on planes even if in checked luggage. Which sucks big time!
How many miles on a single charge at full speed?
What’s the difference between ES4 and ES1?
Made you the 200 👍🏻
Nice review, did the app know the odometer from the scooter's previous owner or did it just start counting from the time you paired it... I ask because I'm looking at a used one and wondering if I can find out the mileage to gauge battery wear
We're back from 28 days in Hawaii. Fortunately, the odometer is permanent & not reset-able. Mine is still going strong with no problems. Wish I could have taken it on a plane.
@@theevolvingworld thanks for replying, I ended up buying a ES4 with just under 200 miles on it (scooter definitely tracks odometer across owners)... Seems to be a really great scooter, looking forward to some warmer weather to ride it.
Ninebot Corre despacio en plan y en su vida no aguanta se queda parado
What happens when the tires wear out...especially the front tire?
Good question. The front tire does all the work. It's solid rubber, down to some point. I guess we will find out.
Very cool man . I have ordered one myself.
I rode one yesterday. This thing is a death trap!
It does take some "getting used to" for sure.
@@theevolvingworld No.
When I opened the box and saw no hand brake I knew it was a no go. Went for a ride and confirmed they will definitely have some lawsuits coming.
@@yourgooglemeister6745 The front brake is regen off the motor & the rear brake is your foot down on the fender. It's not the best going down hill or at higher speeds.
I got a issue I'm trying to solve. I have creaking coming from the back suspension of my scooter. I've uploaded a video onto my RUclips channel. Please can somebody take a look and tell me what the problem may be. THANK YOU
Sorry stupid spell check..... the spring/shock and dual battery. I always ride sport and always careful I have 400 km ( 200 miles )
Xiaomi m365 has more effective braking due to the rear mechanical disc brake, plus it also uses Regenerative E-braking as well.
but a weaker motor...
@@slash00815 It peaks around 500w so that's still a good motor.
Does the m365 have a range of 28miles round trip?
Is the battery detachable? I’m curious because a) id like to know if I can purchase, charge, and carry multiple batteries and b) I want to know if I can fly with this. You can’t put lithium ion batteries in your checked luggage but you CAN put them in your carry on
Anyone know the answer?
The two battery packs are not easily detachable. And unfortunately it is NOT allowed on a plane, period. I know it sucks. I wanted to take it on two overseas vacations earlier this year, which is why I know.
How good is it with steep hills? And is the battery removable, so I could charge it stealthily in the office?
Not very good on hills. You'll need it in Sport Mode all the time, just to get up most hills. Half the battery is inside the vertical bar & half is the black plastic part. Both need to be present for it balance while charging. It's only 32 lbs and folds, just roll it in & charge it under the table.
Really good review!
Can you turn the blinkning lights off when you brake aswell? And if u install the extra battery, do they work together? Or only one at a time for longer range.
And can u make the blinkning bluethooth icon stop blink
Thanks.
No, if you use the regen brake, it will turn on the brake lights. I imagine you could snip some wires to make it not.
Yes, when you install the second battery it up's the range & power. The BMS balances all the cells as one whole pack. Real world range is about 20 miles (not the 28 listed) in standard mode.
The Bluetooth icon blinks when your NOT connected to the app. Don't need the app to operate, but for some of the features, you will.
The Evolving World thanks, Hope yours Will hold together. Heard that all of them die sooner or later.
Can anyone tell me if this scooter holds until 1500km ?
Great review!!!
How fast did it go? It looked really really slow. In europe the limit for a scooter is 25km/hour (have no idea of the conversion) but this ninebot looked like max 20km/h and more likely 15km/h. correct or no?
19.6 indicated, which is about 31.5km. I've seen 22 with a slight down slope. I say "indicated" because that's all I got. However, in the future, I will test it with a GPS system.
Funny story about Segway: A Chinese company was making knock-offs of the original Segway and made so much money from it that they actually BOUGHT the legit Segway company. Crazy.
how do u turn left/right lane?i never ride a scooter in my life..so i donno.
What about changing , how long
Do underneath led light come with scooter
Yes they do 😊
I bougth one of these to "walk" my dog. She needs 15-20miles a day, and I cant/wont do that by simply walking. Looking forward to see if it works :)
That's about right to the limit. Depends on hills, weight of rider, & mostly speed. Average about 10-12 MPH should be easy. Average 18 MPH @ full throttle, not going to make it. Hope it works out!
whats the name of the app tho?
THANKYOU MAN
Is it water resist? if I go drive in rain?
Not so much. The owners manual says: do not ride in the rain.
Hi, I bought this scooter yesterday I've done 16km today with 1 battery bar and 2nd bar flashing. is this normal or could the battery be weak?
Assuming you started with 100% (five solid bars) and you were going max speed in "sport mode", maybe with a headwind, in cooler weather, it would be about right. One solid bar & the second flashing is about 30% or about another 7km. Drop it down out of "sport" to "standard mode". Also, try wearing less baggy clothes for less wind resistance. Doing those two things should get you up to 28-30km.
@@theevolvingworld your the man 👍 thank you
@@theevolvingworld just another question , my scooter has started making a squeeky noise , I've uploaded a video of the fault which I think could be suspension if you could please take a look. Thank you
How's the range for you? Do you get the full 28 miles?
About 15-18 is more realistic in Sport mode. Maybe possible, if on flat land & limit the max speed to 9 MPH... But, who want's to do that!
Does this have solid tires? I have a Xiaomi and it gets flat tires quite often as I ride on bumpy roads quite often. Thinking about switching to this. Thanks~
Yes, it has solid tires and it has suspension to
Yes, it's one of the advantages. Mine's been running flawlessly at 300 plus miles.
You can get solid tyres for the Xiaomi. I did. Unless you have the proper tools, experience, and a place to do it, don't try and change them yourself. I did, and failed. Had to get the fitters at work to do it. The ride gets a LOT bumpier though. But, no more punctures.
Does the scooter come with the external battery or is it seperate?
They call it external battery but not the type that is easy to swap by click or snap. It is attached with the screws to the mainframe, built in battery.
Anyone please respond is the es3 exactly the same as es4 but without the double battery
No, the ES2 is the same as the ES4 but with half the battery, a top speed of 15.5 MPH vs 18.6 MPH, & 700 watts of power vs 800. The ES3 is the bigger battery version of the ES1. No: cruise control, rear suspension, under lights, taillights, & 15.5 MPH top speed with only 600 watts of power.
How can you make it go 19mph? I have one and it only goes 10mph. It was embarrassing.
That's easy. Your in "speed limit mode" which limits it to 9.5 MPH. Double click the power button, you'll see an "S" that's "standard mode" about 16 MPH. Double click again and you'll see a red "S" that "sport mode" about 19 MPH. Enjoy!
@@theevolvingworld thanks
How much
Mine doesn't have the underglow or the folding... Wtf
That sucks, sounds like you got a ES3. It's probably doesn't have sport mode or cruise control either. They are pretty sneaky at making them all look so similar.
Mine too. I think you got what I did which was a version they made for Lime and Lime backed out so they had an oversupply. I don't mind the non folding or non underlight; however, mine is now only going 19kph and I have reconnected the battery, rebooted the thing, and the speed is still slooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwww. Any ideas?
Smooth
Thanks.
Does anyone know how to but the scooter in MPH
In the app.
Do you have to keep your phone connected to drive it fast?
No you don't once it's in sport mode you're good to go 🙌🏾
Can you set a top speed with the app?
Yes, you can. But, only in "speed limit mode" from approx. 3-9 MPH. Note: that's about the ONLY way you will ever get near the advertised 28 mile range. Expect more like 18 mile range in standard mode. Even less in Sport mode.
@@theevolvingworld How much range can you get out of it with the extra battery? I'm considering buying this scooter because it's seems the best option for me (price/range&quality wise)
That is the" real world" range with the extra battery. I'd expect half that with the standard model (ES2).
the ES4 doesn't exist tho.. its just a ES2 with battery.. same with ES1, they should be called ES3
are you certain my friend the es4 is just an es2 they are trying to cheat us can the es2 use the strap on battery.
From what I understand
The es4 is just the es2 with the extra battery.
The es1 in different however because it doesn't have shocks
This should clear things up a little nis-store.com/news-and-actions/ninebot-by-segway-es2-and-es4-what-the-difference/
'It not quite an electric bike' good observation 🤣
i commute about 21 miles a day to work on mine
Mr does it waterproof？
I've ridden through some moderate muddy puddles and the splashguards work. The user manual says: (section 9) Do not ride the scooter in the rain. Also, Do not charge if the cable or port is wet.
The Evolving World does your scooter ES4 headsets wobbled around? My es4 headsets wobbled a lot! Feel and while riddling.
Do you mean the handlebars? Yes, over time mine loosened up & all four screws were half way out (very wobbly). I tighten them all down. It's much better, now. If they come loose again, I'll use some threadlock like loctite.
@@theevolvingworld the stem on the bottom that connects the headset and stem join. it like wobble left and right
So it uses battery to brake?
No, when you brake with the front motor, I think it regenerates back some power
Segway also has a partner company with products a little cheaper..
Jodi d which one
@@vincent6382 Xiaomi is segway
I like ya, u seem like a good guy
Isnt the ES4 made to drive 30mph
No just 18mph
im around 110 kg so is it posible that the board can break in half? 😂
User's Manual says: max payload is 100 kg (220 lbs.)
I’m around the same weight as you and mine is fine. I just tighten up the suspension to carry my extra 10kg. You’ll need an 8mm hex to tighten the suspension.
I'm a bit heavier than u by a few kgs and es2+ extra battery gets me up some hills at 20km/h speed. I was struggling with my old 300w novoku one but the segway is great. I've done about 125km and no problems with my weight so far.
i actually dont know how heavy i am because last time i was 110 now im around 120 kg or less so i ordered the es4 but im to scary that it break in two pieces 😂 And really that far? is it so strong then
@@spooky9067 I'm about 113kg and sometimes I have my laptop in my bag which makes it about 115kg for scooter to carry and I've had no problems with my board. It has not broken yet and I don't think it would unless I did jumped on it. I don't recommend upgrading firmware to v.0.1.4.7 because I had problems with my max speed going from 30 km per hour to 26 km per hour after the update.
Does the external battery come off and can you buy another external battery for more mileage?
Yes, the external battery comes off & you can buy more. It weighs about 3.3 lbs. The BMS balances both packs as one, though.
Stay tuned to the channel. I have plans to do a tear-down of the external battery & modify it to double the capacity. Maybe 6.6 lbs instead of 3.3.
Niiiiiiiiice👍
I am looking for a scooter just to use between work and home. In my country this one is around 660 USD.. The Xiaomi m365 is around 350 dollars. Have someone tried them both, is almost double the price worth it for this one?
M365 is comparable to the Segway es2 which is less range round trip.....the es3 and es4 have an extra battery for a greater 28mile range and regenerative braking.....air filled on m365 vs solid tires on segway which means no popped tires. I have the es3 I think it's a great solid scooter worth the money
@@inegma29 is it still going and is it reliable
This is not a good value scooter at all, look at the zero 8 or fluid free ride horizon, much better, 500 watt motor 20+ miles in range, and has decent suspension unlike the ninebots.
Well ur comment made me feel better because I literally just purchased a fluid free ride horizon and this guys review made me start questioning before it even got here! Lol Thanks
JDavisOfficial ofc! Yeah the horizon smokes this thing, trust me.
I KNOW WHERE THIS IS its in factoria bellevue🤩
Correct. For bonus points: do you know where the opening walk around sequence was shot at?
The Evolving World is that west seattle?.. harbor island!
@@clashanddash Nope! Not even close.
@@clashanddash Same state though.
Segway makes absolute junk! Customer service is almost non existent. I recently bought a new ES4 Kickscooter that lasted 10 days before it died. After a month I was finally sent a replacement, which also no longer even turns on. Currently trying to get refunded, but being ignored by the "company". Good luck to you if you choose to buy one of their products.
Costco has them for 579. I just saved you 200+ dollars.
Is it the es4
Or is it just the es2?
Micah Vincent es4 with extra battery. In black.
@@evoxrr11
Sheesh, you're right
Saved me a ton of money
Costco website said "Segway Ninebot ES3 KickScooter With Dual Battery $599.99 So confused.
Found one for 430€ idk if it's real
Voice: are you sitting inside a can?
...whats the point if u cannot ease ur ass !!😂😂😂😂
audio quality is horrible, what mic are you using?
Great video, just picked up the ninebot es4 for the wife and love it, check out our review and ride videos. Thanks!
A complete mess, looks cool but the ride quality and breaking is hell.
This electric scooter is great for fat guys like me.
Tires are not good looking