Except for the fact that Johnson and Knaus experimented during the summer each year with different setups and a lot of them failed, leading to a lower average finish during those times. Under the old points system they wouldn't have done that, so there's no telling who would really have won.
Jerry Kincaid No I'm no Brad fan in fact I think that South Park episode about NASCAR depicts Brad Keselowski perfectly (Cartman playing Keselowski) but I'm sure you'd feel the same way if you (in Brad's situation) scratched his car and he's thinks the best way to make things even is to put you on your roof. Or in Matt's case, someone tried to make you flinch by throwing a punch and laughs about it Jeff Gordon are you listening? take out Edwards next year and I personally will forgive you for being a crybaby.
nice shot to who ever nailed the 48, although they have good aim, the downside is it was a waste of beer (even though it was probably shit beer like Bud or some other yellow fizzy crap)
@SuperCrudedude How is Brad at fault at Atlanta when Carl is the one who WASNT CLEAR to come down...Brad was there low & Carl was in the middle & just decided he wanted the spot...if your not clear then why come down on someone..Carl should have held his line in the middle & he might would have finished...theres no was in hell its Brads fault at all...you need to go back & watch the replay of it...Im sure it wont change your opinion ....Edwards causes his own problems.
The Bonus Feature was GREAT !!! The arguments between Jeff & Jimmie so far this year have been good !! Jeff needs to knock JJ back into reality !! YOU TUBE won't even let me edit my username !! I chose this one several years ago when JJ was my #2 Driver... NOW, I always hope he blows a motor; a transmission, spins out & hits the wall; anything to take him out of the race !! I don't have a problem with Junior or Mark but the #48, I HATE !!!
Sounds like you're the one hatin' here... equipment really only goes so far buddy, Dale Earnhardt Jr can tell you that. He's at Hendrick's now and he still sucks even worse than his DEI days. Martin's in his first year with Hendrick and he's already got 2 wins. Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson are two of the best drivers NASCAR has ever seen... same with Kyle Busch. This is a new era, and the drivers you see are going to be a lot different. And yeah, I'd love to see Martin win this year too.
Even if the old points system was still used, while mathematically the results in each championship would've been different there's no guarantee the results would've been the same, The Chase causes the drivers to race differently, maybe if we were still on the old system Jimmie would've race harder knowing all points held the entire season.
@JeffGordon221 yea, so in a way Jeff Gordon created this monster that basically has kept Jeff from winning the 7-8 titles everyone thought he would win! Of course, we all know under the old points system that determined the best driver for an ENTIRE SEASON rewarding consistency and talent on ALL the tracks, Jeff would have 6 Titles at this pint and JJ only 1. That is FACT.
Hey, BigBad8, who cares were Gordon is he has had a bad start to this year. Gordon is better then Jr, not saying jrs a bad driver. Gordon has 4 drivers Championships, 81 wins, 65 poless = Jrs has 17 wins, 8 poles, 0 Championships. We Gordon fans get our facts right Too. U also didnt get your facts right "#24 2dnf's not even in the top 51 in points" top 51??
Ive still lost alot of respect for Carl Edwards this time.This is the second time he has showed his little angered emotions. Maybe Jack Rouch needs to send Carl to some anger management classes. Matt Kenseth is one of most liked & classiest drivers in NASCAR. Nobody f**ks with my boy MattKenseth !!! GO MATT GO #17 !!!!
living in an idiotic dream. Jimmie was playing it safe in the regular season that's why you think he doesn't deserve the freaking 5 titles. Here is one big proof, remember the all star race 2012? jimmie won the first segment and after that he kept his car clean for the last segment and o yeah he won it.
@Stewart14rocks yeahh guys, johnson sure sucks... 4 titles ina row? 50 career wins? not as big a baby as jeff gordon? yeahh he sure sucks. this is just further proof that j. gordon fans would rather see a dramafest (provided by jeff gordon, of course) than a real race.i bet yall love the COT dont ya?
I agree totally!If you dont have a talented driver, then you cant win. Crew Chiefs dont win races, drivers win. A crew Chief is on the track to help make in race decisions. I.E. To pit or not to pit. how much fuel is needed to finish a race etc... LOWES PRIDE BABY!!!!!
o all of u quit being jealus about gordon winning so damn much in the pass and actually being the only one with balls to race dale sr. the guy has never said anything bad about drivers, he's faithful to his family and fans..so tell me whats the big deal with him
in a way carl was pissed but i didn't think he wanted to show is rage on camera so i think he played it off. look at matt's face near the end of the conversation and he looked scared and pissed at the same time...i DO NOT think carl was playing around, and it sucks because im a huge fan of them both and all of roush/fenway racing. the beer can thrown at jimmie at the end was PRICELESS HAHA, hes a good guy but im tired of hearing about him and gordon all the fucking time.
Well when the fight, or 'fight' started, he didn't have a smile it was after they had finished pushing each other around. And if you can't tell by username I am a huge fan of Roush, but the guys over and Roush have to be some pansies is thats a fight.
There was no way they were joking. Did you see Matt's reaction? It was kind of funny, but he looked scared. Then Carl had a belated smile, probably for the cameras. Either way, he's a good driver. His temper seems to have cooled off a bit by now, anyway.
Looks like Matt needs to lift some weights if he wants to start shit on the track. I don't blame Carl, but I would definately settle this on the track instead of in front of the cameras. Kenseth has been a weasle to alot of drivers including his teammates.
Didnt say he couldn't win without cheating.... 5 championships don't just fall out the sky. Just stating the fact that they have been caught so many times. Makes one wonder if they do in fact cheat more than what is known....
@wes3tomcat Yeah I get what ur saying but, Jimmie goes out there every week to win like everybody else. He wins championships because he truly is the best. It makes other drivers work harder to win against him.
Why is everybody hating on Jimmie? Because he is winning? Last time i checked, NASCAR drivers drove in NASCAR to win. Nobody is going to go out there and say "I won the last race, so somebody else can win now".
Thats Right Baby!!! 4 In A Row! Also If Alot of These Drivers Were As Talented As The Hendricks Team They would Know How To Handle The Car In Which Hendricks Helps Build. He Also Sells Parts To Other Teams.
keslowski bumped Carl earlier in the Atlanta race causing him to crash wasn't payback from Talladega...But it probably came across Carl's mind. Let's see who else Brad crashes before the year is up.
@gokb18 i think edwards is one of those guys that acts tough and holds his head up high all the time, but if you seriously confront him about something he'll back down in a snap. just my opinion though...
Carl Edwards might be cut, but I dont care. One punch will knock that fool out. J.P. Montoya would stomp this fool. Hell, Michael would stomp him. Hes gunna backflip on his head one day
Even though I cann't say I agree with what UKCats said I've gotta stand up for Kenseth. He has won the California race twice in a row, 10 wins since 03, 3 poles, and made the Chase every year
jesus you earnhardt fans just keep thinkin of excuses dont you? when are you finally just going to figure out that Dale Jr is a DECENT driver, not a superstar?
i agree not all the beer throwers are dale jr fans. i dont like that you assume it was when you really dont know.. it coulda been but also may not have been.
@NissanTy umm, did you watch Atlanta this year???? edwards is a good guy but when you piss him off, (keslowski didnt even do anything to him) he WILL get you back. he'll get you back good.
Make that Back to back and Defending Champion Jimmie Johnson. The real reason I root for the 48 = All those 2nd/3rd/etc finishes before the championship.
Looks like Matt and Carl are going to be teammates again! LOL!
What the hell is up with jimmy spencers hair?
legend has it the guy that threw the beer went on to play quarterback for some division 2 school! 💪🏈🎯
camo cargo shorts and a metal mulisha shirt?
C'mon man
That was one hell of a throw with the beer can.
Yeah, he should've thrown something bigger :)
Except for the fact that Johnson and Knaus experimented during the summer each year with different setups and a lot of them failed, leading to a lower average finish during those times. Under the old points system they wouldn't have done that, so there's no telling who would really have won.
@Mustangman675 haha me too!
Wow, what immature fans
Carl seems like an absolute psycho sometimes and I would die laughing if someone took out or put him in the wall this year
you must be a brad fan
Jerry Kincaid
No I'm no Brad fan in fact I think that South Park episode about NASCAR depicts Brad Keselowski perfectly (Cartman playing Keselowski) but I'm sure you'd feel the same way if you (in Brad's situation) scratched his car and he's thinks the best way to make things even is to put you on your roof.
Or in Matt's case, someone tried to make you flinch by throwing a punch and laughs about it
Jeff Gordon are you listening? take out Edwards next year and I personally will forgive you for being a crybaby.
"scratched his car" you mean sent him flying upside down into a catchfence while moving over 190 miles per hour?
Toby Stephenson oh, so he’s not the nicest guy in nascar?
@Mustangman675 haha me too!
Brilliantly made video!
Direct hit! XD
0:11 2 for flenching XD
AWESOME SHOT!
i see the smile everytime i watch a video of them fighting.
Gotta admit, that fan had some good aim lol
nice shot to who ever nailed the 48, although they have good aim, the downside is it was a waste of beer (even though it was probably shit beer like Bud or some other yellow fizzy crap)
its funny that most of this clip is Carl vs Matt, but most of the comments are about jimmie Johnson
Go Kenseth!
Good Lord, whoever threw that beer unto Jimmie's car has an arm, but it's still idiotic to do.
@SuperCrudedude How is Brad at fault at Atlanta when Carl is the one who WASNT CLEAR to come down...Brad was there low & Carl was in the middle & just decided he wanted the spot...if your not clear then why come down on someone..Carl should have held his line in the middle & he might would have finished...theres no was in hell its Brads fault at all...you need to go back & watch the replay of it...Im sure it wont change your opinion ....Edwards causes his own problems.
The Bonus Feature was GREAT !!! The arguments between Jeff & Jimmie so far this year have been good !! Jeff needs to knock JJ back into reality !! YOU TUBE won't even let me edit my username !! I chose this one several years ago when JJ was my #2 Driver... NOW, I always hope he blows a motor; a transmission, spins out & hits the wall; anything to take him out of the race !! I don't have a problem with Junior or Mark but the #48, I HATE !!!
Sounds like you're the one hatin' here... equipment really only goes so far buddy, Dale Earnhardt Jr can tell you that. He's at Hendrick's now and he still sucks even worse than his DEI days. Martin's in his first year with Hendrick and he's already got 2 wins. Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson are two of the best drivers NASCAR has ever seen... same with Kyle Busch. This is a new era, and the drivers you see are going to be a lot different. And yeah, I'd love to see Martin win this year too.
Even if the old points system was still used, while mathematically the results in each championship would've been different there's no guarantee the results would've been the same, The Chase causes the drivers to race differently, maybe if we were still on the old system Jimmie would've race harder knowing all points held the entire season.
@JeffGordon221 yea, so in a way Jeff Gordon created this monster that basically has kept Jeff from winning the 7-8 titles everyone thought he would win! Of course, we all know under the old points system that determined the best driver for an ENTIRE SEASON rewarding consistency and talent on ALL the tracks, Jeff would have 6 Titles at this pint and JJ only 1. That is FACT.
Hey, BigBad8, who cares were Gordon is he has had a bad start to this year. Gordon is better then Jr, not saying jrs a bad driver. Gordon has 4 drivers Championships, 81 wins, 65 poless = Jrs has 17 wins, 8 poles, 0 Championships. We Gordon fans get our facts right Too. U also didnt get your facts right "#24 2dnf's not even in the top 51 in points" top 51??
Ive still lost alot of respect for Carl Edwards this time.This is the second time he has showed his little angered emotions. Maybe Jack Rouch needs to send Carl to some anger management classes. Matt Kenseth is one of most liked & classiest drivers in NASCAR. Nobody f**ks with my boy MattKenseth !!! GO MATT GO #17 !!!!
living in an idiotic dream. Jimmie was playing it safe in the regular season that's why you think he doesn't deserve the freaking 5 titles. Here is one big proof, remember the all star race 2012? jimmie won the first segment and after that he kept his car clean for the last segment and o yeah he won it.
@Stewart14rocks yeahh guys, johnson sure sucks... 4 titles ina row? 50 career wins? not as big a baby as jeff gordon? yeahh he sure sucks. this is just further proof that j. gordon fans would rather see a dramafest (provided by jeff gordon, of course) than a real race.i bet yall love the COT dont ya?
I agree totally!If you dont have a talented driver, then you cant win. Crew Chiefs dont win races, drivers win. A crew Chief is on the track to help make in race decisions. I.E. To pit or not to pit. how much fuel is needed to finish a race etc...
LOWES PRIDE BABY!!!!!
o all of u quit being jealus about gordon winning so damn much in the pass and actually being the only one with balls to race dale sr. the guy has never said anything bad about drivers, he's faithful to his family and fans..so tell me whats the big deal with him
in a way carl was pissed but i didn't think he wanted to show is rage on camera so i think he played it off. look at matt's face near the end of the conversation and he looked scared and pissed at the same time...i DO NOT think carl was playing around, and it sucks because im a huge fan of them both and all of roush/fenway racing. the beer can thrown at jimmie at the end was PRICELESS HAHA, hes a good guy but im tired of hearing about him and gordon all the fucking time.
Well when the fight, or 'fight' started, he didn't have a smile it was after they had finished pushing each other around. And if you can't tell by username I am a huge fan of Roush, but the guys over and Roush have to be some pansies is thats a fight.
There was no way they were joking. Did you see Matt's reaction? It was kind of funny, but he looked scared. Then Carl had a belated smile, probably for the cameras.
Either way, he's a good driver. His temper seems to have cooled off a bit by now, anyway.
Looks like Matt needs to lift some weights if he wants to start shit on the track. I don't blame Carl, but I would definately settle this on the track instead of in front of the cameras. Kenseth has been a weasle to alot of drivers including his teammates.
Didnt say he couldn't win without cheating.... 5 championships don't just fall out the sky. Just stating the fact that they have been caught so many times. Makes one wonder if they do in fact cheat more than what is known....
@wes3tomcat Yeah I get what ur saying but, Jimmie goes out there every week to win like everybody else. He wins championships because he truly is the best. It makes other drivers work harder to win against him.
Why is everybody hating on Jimmie? Because he is winning? Last time i checked, NASCAR drivers drove in NASCAR to win. Nobody is going to go out there and say "I won the last race, so somebody else can win now".
Thats Right Baby!!! 4 In A Row! Also If Alot of These Drivers Were As Talented As The Hendricks Team They would Know How To Handle The Car In Which Hendricks Helps Build. He Also Sells Parts To Other Teams.
keslowski bumped Carl earlier in the Atlanta race causing him to crash wasn't payback from Talladega...But it probably came across Carl's mind. Let's see who else Brad crashes before the year is up.
@gokb18 i think edwards is one of those guys that acts tough and holds his head up high all the time, but if you seriously confront him about something he'll back down in a snap. just my opinion though...
Carl Edwards might be cut, but I dont care. One punch will knock that fool out. J.P. Montoya would stomp this fool. Hell, Michael would stomp him. Hes gunna backflip on his head one day
Even though I cann't say I agree with what UKCats said I've gotta stand up for Kenseth. He has won the California race twice in a row, 10 wins since 03, 3 poles, and made the Chase every year
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jesus you earnhardt fans just keep thinkin of excuses dont you? when are you finally just going to figure out that Dale Jr is a DECENT driver, not a superstar?
i agree not all the beer throwers are dale jr fans. i dont like that you assume it was when you really dont know.. it coulda been but also may not have been.
@NissanTy umm, did you watch Atlanta this year???? edwards is a good guy but when you piss him off, (keslowski didnt even do anything to him) he WILL get you back. he'll get you back good.
Jr definately is kicking Gordons ass but Kyle busch is kicking the shit out of both of them and he's got a toyota lmao! That's fucking priceless!
Make that Back to back and Defending Champion Jimmie Johnson.
The real reason I root for the 48 = All those 2nd/3rd/etc finishes before the championship.
Oh I had no idea that football was the same as NASCAR, had no idea that all the teams are on the field at the same time at every game.
Looks like Cousin Carl has been hitting the "flaxseed oil" Hey, Brian France maybe it's time to give "roid rage" Edwards a pee test.
Not his fault..... except for all of those times that the 48 team has been caught cheating more times than I can count.
hey bigbad8 if ur gonna say jr is better then jeff ur wrong dude how many wins and champs does jr have compared to jeff
There were some hands on top of each other...okay Bob Dillner! LOL
Jimmie johnson deserve the beer can because martinsville is jeff gordon track, but jeff gordon will win the championship anyway.
I think the guy who tossed the SteveWeiser wanted to christen the greatest driver of all times vehicle personally!
Are you smoking crack, edwards is like 6'1 190 and jp montoya is like 5'6 150, edwards would beat the hell out of jpm
They did the beer can to Busch at Dover this year, seeing it in person was great. Both Johnson and Busch are cry babys
true.... cookie-cutter tracks are all about aerodynamics, and Chad Knaus knows how to set up an awesome car at those tracks
carl could have ben more proffesional,& said something in private!but knowing matt,he might have deserved it,lmao!
ok first matt kenstith can barly even stay 10th in the points when carl can out run him almost anywheres
What's the big deal? So Edwards faked a punch... so what. Looks like he and Matt get along fine now.
@floridacrackerish i bet u all love the new spoiler dont ya?
"I don't know if they where teasing or not" Could anyone else NOT see that smile on Carl's face?
Does Nascar test for HGH???? Carl what you on buddy....I still think mark martin is more ripped
I agree; reminds me of seeing Jeff Gordon win all those Sears Point races between 1998-2000. I know I sure felt like throwing something. :)
It's not out of left field if you hate cheaters and cry babies.... makes perfect sense then.
09 would be Tony Stewart not Jimmie Johnson and 06 would be Matt Kenseth or Jeff Burton
@Sk8BoardTrucker i bawled my eyes out wen Dale Sr. died... and i was 19 at the time
And i thought Tony Stewart was an idiot! Turns out there is a bigger one right here!
Raikkonen And Harvick FTW
How does mr subway fit that horse face in a racing helmet? God i hate that guy.
Team mates fighting +Jimmie Johnson getting hit with a beer can + ZZ Top = WIN
@floridacrackerish yup yup! Lowes pride since 2002! always had faith in him
I was right in front of Johnson when his car got pelted with that beer can.
lol i find it humorous Jimmy Spencer talkin bout "addressing the issue"
Yeah but Martin Did get crapped out of a few titles because of bad luck.
lol carl edwards is wearing a john cena outfit, btw matt kenseth is #1
denny hamlin would have won the 2010 sprint cup champion not harvick
Carl is a badass! JR Sucks, Carl's gonna be 2011 Champ, Get over it!!!
And this is why The 48 has 3 titles in 3 years. And the fan doesnt!
hendrick has the bestest drivers in nascar
LOL yeah well see wont we.yo obviously have no idea about racing
nice shot with the beer can, edwards would have killed kenseth
lol @0:33 the police or seciruty people were about to come!
no, i believe it was jimmie johnson tht won it in 08'
lol look at the cops at 0:38 xD
I wish Matt would have hauled off and decked his ass!
Thorwing stuff at any sporting event is classless!
Senior said he would've retired in 2002 anyways
I agree in every way. This point system stinks.
Must be a Earnhardt Jr fan. Cant spell at all.
I don't think it has anything to do with Ford.
@shane95670 i wear that pride with you brutha!
Is that a dead animal on Jimmy Spencer's head?
Report: After the Daytona Bud Shootout which Junior won, claims of Hendrick cheating is re-ignited.
matt k. is the best
not best driver
my fav
The best part was the beer hitting Johnson.
@ml24jg I agree with you 194%. Well said!
i like how the cops stopped to watch. lol