Thank you all for watching! This is more or less a bridge video between the old Generation 1 Pokemon Cut Content series and Generation 2. Gen 2 is planned to come soon, so stay tuned!
@@hunterland807 I do got plenty of Pokemon videos I have made to date and I still plan to make more (ie. GEN 2 Cut Content), so hope you enjoy those :)
Grimer represented decaying bodies...which is why prof oak has a muk and team. Oak killed reds father burying him alive in the Pokemon tower..missingno was the code meant to delete the games data if you lose to buried alive and the scattered red missingno is buried alives head...which was your father. The parasite in parasect was harnessed by oak to try and make invincible Pokemon that didn't need taming
@@TheObsessiveGamer It was actually *Pikachu's* seizure attack. Porygon did nothing wrong, yet *Pikachu* was the one who shocked the missiles and caused the explosion. #FreePorygon
Beta Clefairy actually has some details on the arms and legs that remind me of Kangaskhan, oddly enough. The legs especially have almost identical square "armor" bits.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Beta Clefairy was one of those Pokémon designs where they were able to split it into two different Pokémon, here being Clefairy we know today and Kangaskhan.
4:47, I wonder if Sabrina's role as a member of Team Rocket in Pokémon Adventures was inspired by the fact that she was going to be the last gym leader. Perhaps she was originally going to be the head of Team Rocket, herself? Before being repurposed into being an unrelated trainer in the games?
Oh good theory. I know the Adventures manga is said to be Tajiri's vision, so maybe. It would fit too since she carries a whip just like the rest of Team Rocket (and her being in Saffron City, would make the Silph takeover easier)
Funny because she represent PSYCHIC type which could’ve been harder type at that time compare to other types even against the Gengar family since they have poison type which is an desvantage but with few luck bug types could’ve prob win depending how player could use it well
@@RafaelPereira-dc9ir Silph Co, Blaine and Mr Fuji are all seemingly linked together, to Team Rocket and to Mewtwo, Sabrina looked to be the final gym leader instead of Giovanni, looks like a Rocket Member and is a a Psychic trainer. Mewtwo is a psychic Pokémon, Team Rocket had active operations in Cerulean City, the city that unknowingly guards Mewtwo, including trying to steal Dig. Almost feels like there once used to be a story in the game and what we got was the scraps of it
It would be fun if the different versions of Red in the beta, with and without the whip, was supposed to be a sign of character development, Red growing a deeper bond with pokemon and realizing that humans and pokemon can coexist without one enslaving the other, which leads him to fight pretty much every enslaver, from an average kid looking to enslave bugs to world elite.
@@cryptosporidium01 It would be lame, but I think his second beta design without the whip shows character development and seeing how fucked up the whole enslaving the pokemon thing is
Makes sense Sabrina being the last Gym leader. Psychic is the strongest type in Gen 1 and you end Team Rocket in the same city making the longest area to clear in the game.
it’s wild how many little details from gen 2 were in gen 1’s beta designs. weedle’s beta evolution looks like ledian, the rhydon in the pocket monsters logo has tyranitar’s tail shape, heck one of the artworks seems to show a tyranitar from behind
It seems to overall be a trend amongst Nintendo it's affiliates i've noticed to not totally waste beta material and try to reuse it in later games. Guess this happened here too.
i know there were nearly 20 people who worked on the original Red and Green. But who would have thought that 3 guys (Satoshi Tajiri, Ken Sugimori and Jun'ichi Masuda) came together one day and decided to make an cool game about battle monsters not realising this game would to take the world by storm in 1998! What a time to be alive! LOL XD
Those early sketches with the whips and pokemon in cages makes me wonder if they were intending for a darker tone, like some kind of dark future setting, similar to dragon ball.
I played a beta version of Pokemon recently. The first gym you would come to was a pre-gym. The leader was in training. His name is Eric. If you lost to him. He would officially become the 8th gym leader with Giovanni being absent. Plus a lot of these sprites they did use until they had to clear some areas out to fix glitches and game breaks. Even the mystery city in the center of the region was never added in the beta. One thing that did surprise me was that there was going to be a bird typing. Moves like "peck" was listed as a bird type move and is not super effective on grass types. Still not sure what it's possibilities are yet. Still playing the beta to understand how things could have gone.
Always cracks me up how the early Pokemon depicted trainers as slavers while the Pokemon themselves were held in cages like actual animals being sold for profit.
awesome video. I've seen multiple videos of people covering beta Gen 1 and it was mostly all the same info just stated differently with their opinions but yours actually had a lot of information I never heard of. Keep up the great work! I can see your channel getting quite big over time
Thank you! Yeah I would say the way I cover is made to be like documentary to give a complete and conveyed message without mixing fact and analysis, so therefore a lot of research is put into it to get this as well covered as possible. Thank you! we are growing well, so hopefully so :) Got plenty of other videos too
@@TheObsessiveGamer Yea that's true and you do a great job at that. I already think your channel deserves way more views but unfortunately, it takes time and due to the algorithm your video may not pop up for a lot of people who would watch it but I look forward to seeing your next video and more people are sure to follow!
Watching this after your other videos Red/Blue cut content videos, it makes that Sabrina was last. Someone else pointed out that Saffron is last in the Fly list but I think it goes beyond that. Since there was a different leader for Viridian, Giovanni did not exist yet. Team rocket would have needed a leader, and that leader was Sabrina. Her gen 1 sprite has very similar boots, gloves, and belts to the rocket grunts, and it would explain why she also has a whip. The circle on her chest was likely a rocket insignia. Going further, it seems likely that Silph was originally going to take place before the 8th gym. It would explain why there is basically nothing in between the 7th and 8th gyms in the final version of the game. Last piece of evidence (and it may be circumstantial) is that all team rocket activity takes place in the areas directly surrounding Saffron, a central city guarded at all 4 entrances. Sure sounds like a “final boss” type of city to me. Love the videos, keep up the great work!
Beta Gyarados looks like it was based on a lamprey, an eel that latches onto the side of its host and bores into its skin to suck their blood. So yeah, definitely nightmare fuel.
Lampreys aren't true eels. They're some of the earliest fish to branch off from the family tree. They even branched off before the evolution of jaws! Technically eels are more closely related to human beings than they are to lampreys :o
Maybe Youjiru (kid prototype of Giovanni) is Giovanni's son? Maybe they reworked (Youjiru) into his red haired final form on Gold / Silver / Crystal? Because the GS archrival IS Giovanni's son...
@@TheObsessiveGamer thank you! It was all very clear and well put, will definitely send your videos if someone asks me for Pokemon cut/beta content, since most videos around are disorganized and confusing, but yours aren't.
I'd like to see them bring back some of these designs in the next generation. Maybe have like an Alolan/Galarian Gyrados and it's that nightmarish worm. That'd be sick!! 💎
TPP Anniversary Red feels like the most complete 1st gen make to me. It has a female trainer, gym re-battles, the strength-truck-mew encounter post-elite 4, the lost island, a battle tent, no missingno glitch...
Ya, early Pokemon very much leaned more into the Modern Fantasy Monster design than it would up being. And I really think that design is great. Like, I love how much more dinosaur like a bunch of them look
The old clefairy design should be recycled as a regional variant. Same thing with the old rhydon and nidoking designs. I would add the drill horn onto rhydon's fists instead though and make nidoking a slightly different color.
You got something wrong, that bets venasaur wasn't even a two stage, evolution actually wasn't even a concept and this stage, so pokemon like beta venasaur was made as its own pokemon.
Yeah, I did mention that part in the video that I made about her, but the design is even older as there is concept are of her. I suggest watching that video too :)
Totally possible! If you look at the bottom of your cartridge, you probably (99% sure) will see a Serial Number, check it on the internet in case you find it and you might find some different stuff :) .
my theory is that he was going to just be this annoying "hero" that would pop up randomly to challenge you to a battle the same way your rival does in the final version.
Did you know that in the Adventures Manga, Giovanni is a child of the Viridian Forest. He was born there, and that is also where he evolved his Beedrill.
It’s worth noting that there’s a whole pitch deck and Japanese captions that came with that concept art- Pokémon were creatures for sure, but the emphasis on friendship and companionship was a natural evolution from pre-existing sketches of a fantastical, monster filled version of Kanto (Japan) (To be entirely fair, a lot of these weren’t translated when this vid was made)
Sabrina being the final gym leader while in the manga she is one of the Elite members of Team Rocket fits pretty well. Silph being the original corrupt company which is also based in Saffron...damn Also, in the original the Pokemon League would take place in Silph co. It fits very well with a storyline where the goal would be to expose the corruption behind Silph co and the final league and postgame to be a "celebration" that the company is clean from its corruption, or the trainers reclaiming a once exclusive space for the shady Silph to make it their training grounds, or the final league in general before it will be moved to indigo plateau. imo.
Weedle Evo line looks like they were intended to be weevils to rival butterfree/venomoth to be bug flying bug poison and bug fighting as poison was super effective to both bug and grass
Imagine Shinjuku Jack in Masters. He's an ancient android found amongst ruins filled with Golurk and Claydol, and in an ancient Legends Arceus style ball he keeps a Rhyhorn, in reference to the beta days of Pokémon.
i actually like flat venasuar. I know people say its only flat to fit into the pixel art size, but i always felt like it was on purpose, like they were going for this really stallwarty-type pokemon that would dig into the ground and absorb nutrients, and thus prefered being very low against the ground
yeah I wouldn't say the fit to pixel art size was the reason (since blue version deflated him), but yeah I agree it felt like it was on purpose with Pokemon looking more like realistic creatures and plants at that point
To think there was one episode of the anime where Ash was basically fighting a guy who was whipping his Pokemon when he might have done just the same if this stayed :P
@@TheObsessiveGamer - Thinking of all the hate Pokémon gets from animal rights activists like PETA. Imagine if the early concept became final. Animal rights groups would have a field day. 😹
6:50 there was no evolution at this stage. If you take a look at the article you'll notice there's a point when the6bibtroduce the concept of evolution
Is interesting how Pokemon would be much closer to the classic look and feeling of the vanilla RPGs. Thats one of the reasons why i loved Gen 1, and even more the OG Pokemon Green despite what people said.
@@TheObsessiveGamer Is common these days a lot of people saying that Gen 1, especially Pokemon Green is a bad game, something i entirely disagree, especially for the reasons they give like being in black and white, sprites dont resemble to the anime or different gameplay mechanics. I personally think it was an excellent game an even more for a 1996 portable game. I still have a lot of fun replaying it.
@@sebastiankulche The OG Gen 1 games have aged very poorly, but they were great in their time. That's the way it goes for lots of OG Nintendo IPs. Metroid has aged like milk, and to say otherwise is to look at it with rose-colored glasses, but it's still the game that launched an incredible series.
@@DJB3lfry I have zero nostalgia with this games and i still can play it perfectly without any problems. Definitely had more fun with it than most modern Pokemon games which is the only thing it matters. Is fun? Yes it is, case closed.
You should have covered the beta "Battle Tower" or dungeon that is supposed to be the final challenge and has a floor full of every trainer class and gym leaders
@@TheObsessiveGamer is in the Heli Chamber, it contains Prof.Oak, Chief and all gym leaders it is in the section where is also the beta gym and map designs
"As this is every trainer in the list minus 6 and Giovanni, it stands to reason that Blackbelt, Juggler, Psychic, Giovanni, Tamer, Cooltrainer M, Cooltrainer F, and either the Rival or Oak were going to be the trainers stationed on the fifth floor. If this was designed as some sort of post-game dungeon, it would make perfect sense for Oak’s level 65-70 party to show up here, followed by the chance to capture Mewtwo on the 6th floor."
@@TheObsessiveGamer i know i am late but there is already beta concept art found of her showing she was going to be a GHOST gym leader, yup lavander town was going to have a gym at some point with erika being the leader of it her beta concept art show her clothes was going to be more similar to clothes corpses use in japan tradiong that is also why the pokeball is levitating on her sprite.
i know i am late but there is already beta concept art found of her showing she was going to be a GHOST gym leader, yup lavander town was going to have a gym at some point with erika being the leader of it her beta concept art show her clothes was going to be more similar to clothes corpses use in japan tradiong that is also why the pokeball is levitating on her sprite.
Ahhh I remember that manual with Blaine in it!!!!!! I was always confused seeing him with the glasses and mustache, I thought it was some sort of false memory for the longest time.
As I mentioned in the video, I already covered that topic of CUT Pokemon in a different video which you can watch. This is for designs that changed (beta designs)
Well, now we know where the truck sprite came from, But what was its original purpose? If that island was somehow conected to the SS Anne, is the truck a leftover from that?
Well I do theorycraft a bit of how they are connected in my "Lost City" video on it, but basically I theorize that originally you were to take the St Anne to the Island and then hop from the Island to Celedon City. Therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if the truck was used to load and unload the St Anne.
They should use some of these in a new game and consider them completely different Pokemon (Spearow doesn't look enough like the final design to where it would be be obviously the same Pokemon, for instance). Just need to clean them up a tad. I think it'd be more interesting than some of the totally random, non-animal designs in more recent games, where it shows that they've pretty much run out of new ideas.
I never interested myself in pokemon nor did i understand anything about the things in the video. But i still like it so ma man can achieve the youtube success :D
I wonder how would be the link between Red and Blue's little brother lol Considering Blue is strong, he'd probably be a good Trainer as well, despite being younger
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Thank you all for watching! This is more or less a bridge video between the old Generation 1 Pokemon Cut Content series and Generation 2. Gen 2 is planned to come soon, so stay tuned!
I love beta Pokémon videos. If this was all you made, you would definitely be my favorite Pokémon RUclipsr.
@@hunterland807 I do got plenty of Pokemon videos I have made to date and I still plan to make more (ie. GEN 2 Cut Content), so hope you enjoy those :)
@@TheObsessiveGamer I will thanks. :)
The female trainer was suppose to be pink. Yellow and pink were the original games
Grimer represented decaying bodies...which is why prof oak has a muk and team. Oak killed reds father burying him alive in the Pokemon tower..missingno was the code meant to delete the games data if you lose to buried alive and the scattered red missingno is buried alives head...which was your father. The parasite in parasect was harnessed by oak to try and make invincible Pokemon that didn't need taming
So Sabrina was originally meant to be the final leader? I think I finally understand why Saffron is at the end of the fly list.
Ooh good observation on that end. Makes much more sense now
It also makes sense because psychic pokemons have no weaknesses so why not put it in the end?
Why is it even after Indigo Plateau though?
@@thetreyceratops It's not. It's just the final city containing the 8th badge
@@joshualeon7234 psychic is weak to bug
Beta dragonair could be a legit regional variant, one that evolves into water/dragon or ice/dragon instead of flying/dragon
Hope we one day see it return. Just looks too good to stay abandoned
@@TheObsessiveGamer Yeah like in Gen 2 beta Leafeon was supposed to be in Gen 2 but they replaced with Espeon but got added in Gen 4
Agreed. That version of Dragonair looks so majestic. And when I say majestic, I mean like Articuno.
Makes sense to repurpose the designs.
"Pokemon generation 1's development was a lengthy and rapidly changing pre-seizure"
I mean it was prior to the Porygon seizure attack, so it's not wrong :P
@@TheObsessiveGamer lmao
@@TheObsessiveGamer It was actually *Pikachu's* seizure attack. Porygon did nothing wrong, yet *Pikachu* was the one who shocked the missiles and caused the explosion. #FreePorygon
@@mrash7560 stfu
@@nekosanestacado8661 Awwww, is your bum bum sore?
Beta Clefairy actually has some details on the arms and legs that remind me of Kangaskhan, oddly enough. The legs especially have almost identical square "armor" bits.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Beta Clefairy was one of those Pokémon designs where they were able to split it into two different Pokémon, here being Clefairy we know today and Kangaskhan.
4:47, I wonder if Sabrina's role as a member of Team Rocket in Pokémon Adventures was inspired by the fact that she was going to be the last gym leader. Perhaps she was originally going to be the head of Team Rocket, herself? Before being repurposed into being an unrelated trainer in the games?
Oh good theory. I know the Adventures manga is said to be Tajiri's vision, so maybe. It would fit too since she carries a whip just like the rest of Team Rocket (and her being in Saffron City, would make the Silph takeover easier)
Funny because she represent PSYCHIC type which could’ve been harder type at that time compare to other types even against the Gengar family since they have poison type which is an desvantage but with few luck bug types could’ve prob win depending how player could use it well
@@RafaelPereira-dc9ir Silph Co, Blaine and Mr Fuji are all seemingly linked together, to Team Rocket and to Mewtwo, Sabrina looked to be the final gym leader instead of Giovanni, looks like a Rocket Member and is a a Psychic trainer.
Mewtwo is a psychic Pokémon, Team Rocket had active operations in Cerulean City, the city that unknowingly guards Mewtwo, including trying to steal Dig.
Almost feels like there once used to be a story in the game and what we got was the scraps of it
Almost all the gymleaders were with team rocket in the manga
@@yukicocoa5435 Which is part of the basis behind my question.
It would be fun if the different versions of Red in the beta, with and without the whip, was supposed to be a sign of character development, Red growing a deeper bond with pokemon and realizing that humans and pokemon can coexist without one enslaving the other, which leads him to fight pretty much every enslaver, from an average kid looking to enslave bugs to world elite.
Why the whip?
(Trrified, traumatized, Heartbrokem, PTSD, & Enslaving Flashbacks.)
💔💔💔💔😭😭😭😭😭😭😭......
@@Juan_Rulz You were never whipped though. Maybe your ancestors were, but I bet you are living fairly comfortably.
@@cornixdemetrius7883 What do you mean.?
Damn red was going to be an aggressive trainer that whips his pokemon
That would have been so badass
I wouldn't of been a fan if they did that
@@cryptosporidium01 It would be lame, but I think his second beta design without the whip shows character development and seeing how fucked up the whole enslaving the pokemon thing is
It just doesn't get more nostalgic than Pokemon Red and Blue.
sure it does: red and green. checkmate.>:3
@@JT5555 Touche lmao
For me firered and leafgreen.
@@ZacharyShindle1-933 Well I agree, but they're mostly the same game. lol
gsc is better lol
I'm loving all these beta and cut content stuff getting leaked this year
Suddenly the episode in the anime of "AJ" and his SandShrew right after the episode where he faced Misty at Cerulean City makes a lot more sense.
Ash fighting the beta stages of the game the whole time.
Am I the only one who actually likes the beta designs of Gyarados and Venusaur? I think they look pretty cool 😂
Beta Gyrados looks bad ass!!
I wonder if Sgt. Surge and Blaine ever talk about the Pokemon war they fought in.
2:48 Goku wants to fight!
It's like if Goku and Krillin fused :P
Makes sense Sabrina being the last Gym leader. Psychic is the strongest type in Gen 1 and you end Team Rocket in the same city making the longest area to clear in the game.
it’s wild how many little details from gen 2 were in gen 1’s beta designs. weedle’s beta evolution looks like ledian, the rhydon in the pocket monsters logo has tyranitar’s tail shape, heck one of the artworks seems to show a tyranitar from behind
It seems to overall be a trend amongst Nintendo it's affiliates i've noticed to not totally waste beta material and try to reuse it in later games. Guess this happened here too.
i know there were nearly 20 people who worked on the original Red and Green. But who would have thought that 3 guys (Satoshi Tajiri, Ken Sugimori and Jun'ichi Masuda) came together one day and decided to make an cool game about battle monsters not realising this game would to take the world by storm in 1998! What a time to be alive! LOL XD
I’d imagine that’s how a lot of projects work. You and some friends have an idea and you make it happen. It is pretty amazing for sure.
1998 in North America
Those early sketches with the whips and pokemon in cages makes me wonder if they were intending for a darker tone, like some kind of dark future setting, similar to dragon ball.
I imagine it was just meant to represent the idea of taming Pokemon in a relentless manner. A bit much for a kids game, so was toned back
I played a beta version of Pokemon recently. The first gym you would come to was a pre-gym. The leader was in training. His name is Eric. If you lost to him. He would officially become the 8th gym leader with Giovanni being absent. Plus a lot of these sprites they did use until they had to clear some areas out to fix glitches and game breaks. Even the mystery city in the center of the region was never added in the beta. One thing that did surprise me was that there was going to be a bird typing. Moves like "peck" was listed as a bird type move and is not super effective on grass types. Still not sure what it's possibilities are yet. Still playing the beta to understand how things could have gone.
Kinda late but what's the name of gen1 beta rom?
This ain’t an insult man but you sound related to Fozzy Bear
Always cracks me up how the early Pokemon depicted trainers as slavers while the Pokemon themselves were held in cages like actual animals being sold for profit.
It's fucked up, makes you think about the moral implications playing the newer games
awesome video. I've seen multiple videos of people covering beta Gen 1 and it was mostly all the same info just stated differently with their opinions but yours actually had a lot of information I never heard of. Keep up the great work! I can see your channel getting quite big over time
Thank you! Yeah I would say the way I cover is made to be like documentary to give a complete and conveyed message without mixing fact and analysis, so therefore a lot of research is put into it to get this as well covered as possible. Thank you! we are growing well, so hopefully so :) Got plenty of other videos too
@@TheObsessiveGamer Yea that's true and you do a great job at that. I already think your channel deserves way more views but unfortunately, it takes time and due to the algorithm your video may not pop up for a lot of people who would watch it but I look forward to seeing your next video and more people are sure to follow!
Watching this after your other videos Red/Blue cut content videos, it makes that Sabrina was last. Someone else pointed out that Saffron is last in the Fly list but I think it goes beyond that.
Since there was a different leader for Viridian, Giovanni did not exist yet. Team rocket would have needed a leader, and that leader was Sabrina. Her gen 1 sprite has very similar boots, gloves, and belts to the rocket grunts, and it would explain why she also has a whip. The circle on her chest was likely a rocket insignia.
Going further, it seems likely that Silph was originally going to take place before the 8th gym. It would explain why there is basically nothing in between the 7th and 8th gyms in the final version of the game.
Last piece of evidence (and it may be circumstantial) is that all team rocket activity takes place in the areas directly surrounding Saffron, a central city guarded at all 4 entrances. Sure sounds like a “final boss” type of city to me.
Love the videos, keep up the great work!
Beta Gyarados looks like it was based on a lamprey, an eel that latches onto the side of its host and bores into its skin to suck their blood.
So yeah, definitely nightmare fuel.
Definitely, but imagine at Gyarados side attaching onto...anything :P
Lampreys aren't true eels. They're some of the earliest fish to branch off from the family tree. They even branched off before the evolution of jaws! Technically eels are more closely related to human beings than they are to lampreys :o
I think they re-used it for Eelektross from Black and White games.
@@kstanni87 Yes Eelektrik and Eelektross are very clearly based on lampreys
More like BORES me because it's not a badass sea dragon
They should make a dragon/bug type based on beta gyrados
It's a typing that makes too much sense but yet never happened
Really love the concept art of that dude trying to whip a ghost. I don't know how that's gonna be effective
Maybe Youjiru (kid prototype of Giovanni) is Giovanni's son? Maybe they reworked (Youjiru) into his red haired final form on Gold / Silver / Crystal? Because the GS archrival IS Giovanni's son...
I had seen most of these, but the female Red from helix chamber blew me away! Also, I love beta Clefairy, it's so awkward 😅
Always some info that slips by I guess lol glad I could put it together then in one convenient documentary for everyone to easily access
@@TheObsessiveGamer thank you! It was all very clear and well put, will definitely send your videos if someone asks me for Pokemon cut/beta content, since most videos around are disorganized and confusing, but yours aren't.
10/10 would play capsule monsters.
They gave that Desert to Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga
I'd like to see them bring back some of these designs in the next generation.
Maybe have like an Alolan/Galarian Gyrados and it's that nightmarish worm.
That'd be sick!! 💎
A canon evolution to Gyardos being this version would be perfect lol. Just get more horrifying each time
TPP Anniversary Red feels like the most complete 1st gen make to me. It has a female trainer, gym re-battles, the strength-truck-mew encounter post-elite 4, the lost island, a battle tent, no missingno glitch...
I forgot how many trainers had whips.
If that first map had a desert area, that makes sense since there was a scrapped cactus Pokémon at some point.
Thumbs up. OG Grimer is a nightmare. OG Beedrill is a cool dude.
Ya, early Pokemon very much leaned more into the Modern Fantasy Monster design than it would up being. And I really think that design is great. Like, I love how much more dinosaur like a bunch of them look
Beta Scyther could be a pre-evolution of actual Scyther, completely the full 3 stage family.
The old clefairy design should be recycled as a regional variant. Same thing with the old rhydon and nidoking designs. I would add the drill horn onto rhydon's fists instead though and make nidoking a slightly different color.
3:34 that’s krillin with hair, and 3:10 that’s clearly a super Saiyan
You got something wrong, that bets venasaur wasn't even a two stage, evolution actually wasn't even a concept and this stage, so pokemon like beta venasaur was made as its own pokemon.
Green's design was in the Adventures Manga even before Let's Go. 😊
Yeah, I did mention that part in the video that I made about her, but the design is even older as there is concept are of her. I suggest watching that video too :)
There’s a firefighter trainer in my original copy of red...is it possible that I got an earlier version of the game?
Totally possible!
If you look at the bottom of your cartridge, you probably (99% sure) will see a Serial Number, check it on the internet in case you find it and you might find some different stuff :) .
@@oMaruMesmo thanks for the info! I’ll definitely go check :)
So is it the orginal version?
I just wanted to say that this video is very well done! Please keep up the amazing work. :)
I theorize that Shinjuku Jack was the leader of the Fighting Dojo
Maybe, though if my theory is correct, then the Fighting Dojo would have been in Celedon City which at that stage, anything way possible
my theory is that he was going to just be this annoying "hero" that would pop up randomly to challenge you to a battle the same way your rival does in the final version.
@@JT5555 Also a possibility. I can imagine he being more recurring side character kinda like the way Bede is in Sword and Shield.
It's Goku
6:11, a similar design (just with a hat) appeared in fire red/leaf green. :\
Well the clothes are quite different too. Really just the character model is the same (which got her old clothes back in Let's Go games)
@@TheObsessiveGamer Good point
10:25 Nidokink™️
Guess I'll comment before all the FIRST comments arrive.
first
That was just "First" comment with extra steps.
I’d like to see some of these designs as new forms, perhaps ancient forms for legends arceus
Would be nice to see Beta Arceus at that too in Legends.
Did you know that in the Adventures Manga, Giovanni is a child of the Viridian Forest. He was born there, and that is also where he evolved his Beedrill.
I guess a female protagonist and a female endboss were too futuristic at that time lol. Would have loved that though
Great video btw!
It’s worth noting that there’s a whole pitch deck and Japanese captions that came with that concept art- Pokémon were creatures for sure, but the emphasis on friendship and companionship was a natural evolution from pre-existing sketches of a fantastical, monster filled version of Kanto (Japan)
(To be entirely fair, a lot of these weren’t translated when this vid was made)
Sabrina being the final gym leader while in the manga she is one of the Elite members of Team Rocket fits pretty well.
Silph being the original corrupt company which is also based in Saffron...damn
Also, in the original the Pokemon League would take place in Silph co.
It fits very well with a storyline where the goal would be to expose the corruption behind Silph co and the final league and postgame to be a "celebration" that the company is clean from its corruption,
or the trainers reclaiming a once exclusive space for the shady Silph to make it their training grounds,
or the final league in general before it will be moved to indigo plateau.
imo.
Weedle Evo line looks like they were intended to be weevils to rival butterfree/venomoth to be bug flying bug poison and bug fighting as poison was super effective to both bug and grass
Gryados is pure nightmare fuel
I wish beta Gyarados was a Pokémon. It reminds me of an Animorphs Taxxon.
Maybe Scolipede was Inspired by the beta gyarados?
I think shinjuku jack is supposed to be like a fan boy type of enemy
2:15 is that guy whipping a Ghastly? xD
Beta Dragonair is so beautiful! I already love Dragonair so much but the beta would be a great regional variant.
Imagine Shinjuku Jack in Masters. He's an ancient android found amongst ruins filled with Golurk and Claydol, and in an ancient Legends Arceus style ball he keeps a Rhyhorn, in reference to the beta days of Pokémon.
Probably now called Celadon Jack instead of course :P
Omg, so glad this popped in my recommended! 😍
i actually like flat venasuar. I know people say its only flat to fit into the pixel art size, but i always felt like it was on purpose, like they were going for this really stallwarty-type pokemon that would dig into the ground and absorb nutrients, and thus prefered being very low against the ground
yeah I wouldn't say the fit to pixel art size was the reason (since blue version deflated him), but yeah I agree it felt like it was on purpose with Pokemon looking more like realistic creatures and plants at that point
@Ian McAndrew I think it looks pitiful and sad. They did the correct thing by changing Venasaur's sprite.
Thank you for making this! Must of took a while to research! Love these kinds of vids. New subscriber here 💗
Thank you very much! I got plenty of other Pokemon cut content too and other games as well if interested :)
Awesome blue background. It kinda makes a 3d effect on everything on top of the background.
Glad you enjoy that effect and especially glad the faux 3D effects is noticeable
Those early concepts of Pokémon seems so creepy to me LOL! Just the thought of trainers literally physically abusing their Pokémon >.
To think there was one episode of the anime where Ash was basically fighting a guy who was whipping his Pokemon when he might have done just the same if this stayed :P
@@TheObsessiveGamer - Thinking of all the hate Pokémon gets from animal rights activists like PETA. Imagine if the early concept became final. Animal rights groups would have a field day. 😹
Shinjuku Jack is officially my new nickname
6:50 there was no evolution at this stage. If you take a look at the article you'll notice there's a point when the6bibtroduce the concept of evolution
Is interesting how Pokemon would be much closer to the classic look and feeling of the vanilla RPGs. Thats one of the reasons why i loved Gen 1, and even more the OG Pokemon Green despite what people said.
What did people say about the OG Pokemon Green?
@@TheObsessiveGamer Is common these days a lot of people saying that Gen 1, especially Pokemon Green is a bad game, something i entirely disagree, especially for the reasons they give like being in black and white, sprites dont resemble to the anime or different gameplay mechanics. I personally think it was an excellent game an even more for a 1996 portable game. I still have a lot of fun replaying it.
@@sebastiankulche The OG Gen 1 games have aged very poorly, but they were great in their time. That's the way it goes for lots of OG Nintendo IPs. Metroid has aged like milk, and to say otherwise is to look at it with rose-colored glasses, but it's still the game that launched an incredible series.
@@DJB3lfry I have zero nostalgia with this games and i still can play it perfectly without any problems. Definitely had more fun with it than most modern Pokemon games which is the only thing it matters. Is fun? Yes it is, case closed.
Those inventories had been created them for just 6 years wow.
You’re just gonna omit the fact that Cloyster’s shell goes from opening horizontally to vertically to horizontally again in later games? Kay.
well that was less of an actual design change, but artist error
@@inkii-y word. I loved that design tho.
You really have to love how derpy Green's Pokemon designs are.
Some animal trainers do use whips - but only to distinguish their personal space from the lion's.
You should have covered the beta "Battle Tower" or dungeon that is supposed to be the final challenge and has a floor full of every trainer class and gym leaders
I've never heard of this one for Gen 1. Mind linking me somewhere I can further look into it for maybe a future video?
@@TheObsessiveGamer is in the Heli Chamber, it contains Prof.Oak, Chief and all gym leaders
it is in the section where is also the beta gym and map designs
"As this is every trainer in the list minus 6 and Giovanni, it stands to reason that Blackbelt, Juggler, Psychic, Giovanni, Tamer, Cooltrainer M, Cooltrainer F, and either the Rival or Oak were going to be the trainers stationed on the fifth floor. If this was designed as some sort of post-game dungeon, it would make perfect sense for Oak’s level 65-70 party to show up here, followed by the chance to capture Mewtwo on the 6th floor."
@The obsessive Gamer Techno Jack was actually a parallel universe of Jack Levin in the anime of f-zero.
9:37 Looks like that's the inspiration for Pokemon Fool's Gold's dual ground & dragon type Gyrados!
So the concept of “politoad “ was planned for the very first game
Please use all of the old and cut content Pokemon in the new games. They all looked amazing and nice and fluffy.
The way Erika is seen levitating the ball... Was Erika originally going to be the Psychic type Pokemon Gym Leader?
ooh good eye. It's entirely possible considering we know gym types did game (ie. Giovanni originally being a flying gym leader)
@@TheObsessiveGamer i know i am late but there is already beta concept art found of her
showing she was going to be a GHOST gym leader, yup lavander town was
going to have a gym at some point with erika being the leader of it her
beta concept art show her clothes was going to be more similar to
clothes corpses use in japan tradiong that is also why the pokeball is
levitating on her sprite.
i know i am late but there is already beta concept art found of her showing she was going to be a GHOST gym leader, yup lavander town was going to have a gym at some point with erika being the leader of it her beta concept art show her clothes was going to be more similar to clothes corpses use in japan tradiong that is also why the pokeball is levitating on her sprite.
3:28 my boi Krilin made it to Pokemon, incredible
Ahhh I remember that manual with Blaine in it!!!!!! I was always confused seeing him with the glasses and mustache, I thought it was some sort of false memory for the longest time.
No mentions to Marowak evo? I'd love they would use that design instead of kangaskhan
As I mentioned in the video, I already covered that topic of CUT Pokemon in a different video which you can watch. This is for designs that changed (beta designs)
I think that they dropped the "capsule monsters" title because yu-gi-oh had already taken the name
Well, now we know where the truck sprite came from, But what was its original purpose?
If that island was somehow conected to the SS Anne, is the truck a leftover from that?
Well I do theorycraft a bit of how they are connected in my "Lost City" video on it, but basically I theorize that originally you were to take the St Anne to the Island and then hop from the Island to Celedon City. Therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if the truck was used to load and unload the St Anne.
If you look at the old pokemon sheet the 1st one is Cubone but he has a shield and a bone/sword that's cool
Oh man, I completely missed the premiere. I can already tell it will be a great video!
Always can watch later when missed lol Hope you enjoyed it!
When you go high you sound like Dr Doofenshmirtz 😂 in a nice way
Wow I didn’t knew about these beta Pokémon’s of gen 1. Glad this came on my recommended
Beta "brock" reminds me of buu saga krillin.
beta clefairy is so cute!
oh that's quite possible. The gym featuring buddhist monks potentially? Maybe that old fighting gym in Saffron was it?
They should use some of these in a new game and consider them completely different Pokemon (Spearow doesn't look enough like the final design to where it would be be obviously the same Pokemon, for instance). Just need to clean them up a tad. I think it'd be more interesting than some of the totally random, non-animal designs in more recent games, where it shows that they've pretty much run out of new ideas.
3:25 Hey it’s Krillin on the left with hair 😅
4:03 PICK UP THE SOAP!
Shinjuku Jack look like the dude who robbed those ppl in Celadon. Lol
Beat up people in Pokemon battles and take their money :P
I never interested myself in pokemon nor did i understand anything about the things in the video. But i still like it so ma man can achieve the youtube success :D
Imagine trying to whip gastly
I wonder how would be the link between Red and Blue's little brother lol
Considering Blue is strong, he'd probably be a good Trainer as well, despite being younger
I think they should use the unused scyther for a pre-evo.
Am I the only one that see the blue background in some sort of 3D effect?
hehe it's a neat trick here done here of blurring the blue background slightly while keeping the foreground normal. Glad it worked :P
Shinjuku jack was meant to be part of the fight at Silph Spa...
This wouldve been even better than the other shit we got but keep reds sprite as it is currently
I like beta Gengars teeth it looks really cool