Did you end up replacing the missing components around the clock cap. Did the xbox turn on with out them ? I have a xbox 1.1 my clock cap leaked it was turning on before i took the cap of and 3 of the smd caps came off right next to the clock cap and now it wont turn on
Those things are really, really evil. How could Powerstor make such things. It's like 100% fail rate so far. It's not even a question of "if" it's gonna leak. It's not even funny! LOL.
Thanks for telling about the clock capacitor ! I checked mine and the capacitor already leaked a long time ago (before I bought it) but I guess I was lucky, no damage at all on the board just a dead/little bit rusty capacitor...
Great the word got to you. The word actually was out a long time ago, and is one of the things that XBox owners should do- take that cap out, even though it means breaking the tamper seals. Thanks for watching and commenting.
found a cheap xbox but clock capacitor had leaked and a few of the components came off, like the little mlcc things , xbox starts but no video and has an orange light also turns on and off a few times before starting , would you say give up or easy to find the parts and replace?
So just to be sure, removing it will just affect the clock settings, right? The Xbox should still start up and read discs properly without it? If we do decide to replace it, any recommendations for specific capacitors?
Man, it's been a long time since I did this. You need a specifc cap. Man, I forgot what it's called. Ask nicely on the OG XBox Subreddit. And yeah, you don't really need it. It saves the clock info, so you don't need to keep inputting it on start up. You also need to be careful softmodding one that doesn't have the clock cap. as you can have an error code pop realated to setting the clock, and it's tricky to fix. I forget it's been so long, I need to refresh.
@@The_SegaHolic Cool, man. Your videos are awesome! I removed the clock capacitor and I even repaired 2 of those traces that control the power/eject buttons using your other video. But I'm considering putting a reliable capacitor in the evil capacitor's place. Thanks for your reply.
Hey Sega Holic, I've been catching up on videos that I've missed from your channel. Specifically, I've seen a few of your Yahoo Japan pickup videos. I'm assuming you're using a proxy service like buyee? If so, would you be willing to give me a rough estimate on how much they charge you in fees and maybe how much shipping costs to Hawaii? I've been interested in using buyee and I live in southern California so I imagine that the fees you have paid would be very similar to what they would charge me.
Yeah, I use Buyee and fees and shipping varies on final auction price, weight, and shipping service selected. You can rewatch some of them, as serveral of them have the price of the fees. You can also save on fees and shipping as several times during the year, they run promotions, sometimes offerering up to 50% off fees. BTW, they list their shipping rates as well as how they apply fees in their FAQ. With that said, it is not cheap, but buying and using Yahoo Japan via proxy service is cheaper than eBay most of the time.
thank you for the video! im used to fiddling with tech and building PC's, but ive had bad luck in this case. removed the clock cap from my 2003 og xbox, and now it wont boot. the power light blinks on for a few moments and then just flashes red afterward. any advice?
I just removed mine and now it will turn on but no green light and no signal to TV. Any thoughts? Its from 10/2003 so model 1.4 or 1.5. The capacitor was intact as well. Thanks!
Double check to see if wires and cables are put back snugly. Also make sure the AV cable is in good. If it's still the same, what color is the light around the eject button?
Without opening? Manufacture date on the serial number. xboxdevwiki.net/Hardware_Revisions You can do Rocky5's softmod, and it tells you on the unleashx dash. Otherwise, open it up to take a look at the video encoder chip. If it's an XCalibur, then it's a 1.6. Just read the link thoroughly to understand the verbage I'm using.
I have a question: to neutralize the fluid of the clock capacitor do you have to use baking soda or vinegar? Everywhere else in the interent I've read vinegar (and I know this is the case for ordinary elecrtolythic capacitors), but I see you used baking soda in the video, and since I know this is a different kind of capacitor from the "normal" ones I was wondering wether in this case we have to use baking soda instead of vinegar. My intuition is that since vinegar is acid and baking soda is basic, onlyh one will work to neutralize the leakage, but I have no idea what find of fluid this particular capacitor leaks
It's actually not a fluid if you can believe it... it's a gel/gas. I know I did a ton of research into what kind of cap this was. And yeah, baking soda neutralizes acid. That's why you add it in some cakes and stuff and you know it's still good if it bubbles. itstillruns.com/neutralize-battery-acid-baking-soda-8189182.html Shoot, I can't believe it's not in the comments. I'll be back after I search this out.... But again, it's not actually a fluid in there... or a solid.. it's actually gas.
@@The_SegaHolic I could find out too with a quick google search that it is actually a gel and not a fluid, but the point is wether it is acid or alkaline, as this determines what chemical to use to neutralize it. So what you are saying is that it actually is an acid (wheras as far as I know, common electrolythinc capacitors have an alkaline leakage), correct?
It's a a Powerstor Aerogel supercapacitor... solarbotics.com/product/cpag1_0f/ Data Sheet PDF: cdn.solarbotics.com/products/datasheets/powerstor_aerogel_ps-5102.pdf And here is the Wikipedia of Aerogel: It's a solid with it's liquid coponent replaced with gas...
@@painco94 Yeah, I thought I put a link in that shows Baking Soda neutralizes acid. But in this case, as in most cases, just clean the area with IPA (Isopropyl Alcohol) as thoughroughly as you can. Make sure to flood the underneath of components repeatedly if you think the material got under. Neutralizing at this point though is overkill. I just wanted to look smart for the RUclipsrs. LOL.Again, just clean thoughroughly and repeated with Isopropyl alcohol.
My XBOX was manufactured in 2005-07-27. But it has Samsung RAM so it's not a 1.6b. How common is this? Before I opened it I was damn sure it was gonna be a 1.6b since it's from 2005.
Hey SegaHolic! I really enjoy your videos. I had my 1.0 OG Xbox refurbished right before they stopped doing official repairs to them. (I can't recall my issue, but I was happy to get it a checkup right before they stopped doing it). I only heard about this capacitor issue this week so I opened up my old Xbox to take care of this issue. Not only does it look like they updated my heat sinks (awesome!) but maybe they also updated my clock capacitor as well? My clock capacitor doesn't look like the one above. It is gold and black and appears to be a brand of "nichicon" and also says "1.0 F 2.5 V" and "UC (M)" on the sides. The capacitor doesn't appear puffy. Do you think I should still be concerned? I can upload some photos if you are interested in what either came in my 1.0 Xbox or what was updated by the official repair team right before they stopped taking repair orders.
@@The_SegaHolic Hi there! I just sent an email to the address I found on your RUclips About page. I hope you enjoy taking a look at what makes my Xbox tick. :)
@@scotchnichols www.reddit.com/r/originalxbox/comments/7hk9xi/ogxb_14_with_a_nichicon_time_clock_capacitor/ Looks like Nichicon also supplied aerogel caps for the clock. They replaced the v1.0 board that was originally in there with a v1.1 board. The fan jack on the board is missing, and there are no USB boards for the contoller ports... so that's why you no longer have a fan on the heat sink. A replacement v1.0 board was probably not available.
@@The_SegaHolic Oh nice. That all makes sense. I had not done any research on the Nichicon capacitor since finding it, so thank you for getting some information on it! I will follow the rest of your videos as I work to clean out the dust within the Xbox. There were some good dust balls in there.
Could be damaged trace or damaged clock components... just to clarify the cap is only needed if you unplug the system... if the system remains plugged in it should keep time regardless of rather a cap is in it or not...
I have a Xbox Crystal limited edition from 2002 and the motherboard is completely different from standard versions. Additionaly, the capacitor itself is a high quality one. My friend, an experienced electronics technician, desoldered it, verified it throughly and the capacitor is "healthy". Secondly, the console didn't work AT ALL after the capacitor removal, even though I use UnleashX.
The SegaHolic He had the picture, but I don't know if he still has. I may take a picture in the future, because this Xbox is sheduled for capacitor replacemnt just in case - it won't last forever. I just can't send the console anywhere - I don't let people use my cars and electronics ;) Anyway I have two questions. Do you have any good place for getting the clock capacitor? So far I only found Aliexpress and Amazon. I have a Panasonic capacitor, but it is a 5V and my friend doesn't like the idea of using it instead of a 2.5V one. Do you have any idea why my Xbox does not work without the mentioned capacitor? All other consoles seem to boot, as long as there is any mod installed. Regards
Hey! I just ordered an xbox online and noticed the stickers were damaged where the screws are and it asks me to set the time and date each time I unplug it and plug it again. I'm kinda lucky
hasidichomeboy Ay dawg thanks, I kinda had to slowly come to terms with that but with a bit hesitation because I just wanted to be sure but, thanks dawg, appreciate it.
@@George61945 despite being a year old ill still warn you, 1.6 systems wont boot without a clock capacitor... the horror story for the xbox clock capacitor isnt that it used a capacitor to keep for a short period after unplugging but the one the used from 2002-early 2004 where flawed, when they realised they switched to a better capacitor... now ill say any cap has the ability to die but they aren't suppose to leak in the fashion the flawed one does.. caps would typically start leaking from ths top and would die before the leaking typically became severe (with exceptions case by case but typically) the furst likey caps to die on your xbox will probably be the ones around the power supply plug,, when those ones die the cobsole wont switch on but ver easily replaced
So I just opened my XBX Classic (Crystal, PAL) and it doesn't have those kinds of caps there. However it has 4 "under" the right heatsink which 3 of them is rusted on top. The 4th isnt as bad, but it's got some sign of rust. What do? Do I just remove all of them? Kind of guessing they need replacement?
A good tell if a cap needs replacing is if it has a bulge on top... caps should be fully flat on top.. under the heat sink should be 5 caps not four.. 6.3v 3300uf caps... replace all of them
Just use isopropyl alcohol. Lot's of going over the affected areas, even though you've cleaned them until you are satisfied. I presonally go over like 5 times. For cleaning, you should be using isopropyl alcohol, in 92% or 99% strengths. 99 if you can find it.
NO... dont remove the clock capacitor in a 1.6 unless you plan on replacing it because 1.6 not only fixed the capacitor issues its made to not run if missing
@@The_SegaHolic im pretty sure i got the right one, its the same one u took out in the vid. i think when i cleaned the area around it i might have damaged something
@@Sam-gw3gc Well, hopefully you get it fixed. Red lights or Red and Green lights are failures that's beyond me. You can go to the OG XBox subreddit and hopefully someone can help you there.
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I'm glad I did this today.
Did you end up replacing the missing components around the clock cap. Did the xbox turn on with out them ? I have a xbox 1.1 my clock cap leaked it was turning on before i took the cap of and 3 of the smd caps came off right next to the clock cap and now it wont turn on
Yeah, it was smd resistors that came off, not caps so try replacing those.
Great so far! That zoom in on the Evil Capacitor made me LOL :o)
Those things are really, really evil. How could Powerstor make such things. It's like 100% fail rate so far. It's not even a question of "if" it's gonna leak. It's not even funny! LOL.
Thanks for telling about the clock capacitor ! I checked mine and the capacitor already leaked a long time ago (before I bought it) but I guess I was lucky, no damage at all on the board just a dead/little bit rusty capacitor...
Great the word got to you. The word actually was out a long time ago, and is one of the things that XBox owners should do- take that cap out, even though it means breaking the tamper seals. Thanks for watching and commenting.
found a cheap xbox but clock capacitor had leaked and a few of the components came off, like the little mlcc things , xbox starts but no video and has an orange light also turns on and off a few times before starting , would you say give up or easy to find the parts and replace?
It's toast. Too much trouble for the payoff IMO. Save the XBox for parts though. Not a total loss.
do we have to remove the excess solder after snapping the capacitor out?
So just to be sure, removing it will just affect the clock settings, right? The Xbox should still start up and read discs properly without it? If we do decide to replace it, any recommendations for specific capacitors?
Man, it's been a long time since I did this. You need a specifc cap. Man, I forgot what it's called. Ask nicely on the OG XBox Subreddit. And yeah, you don't really need it. It saves the clock info, so you don't need to keep inputting it on start up. You also need to be careful softmodding one that doesn't have the clock cap. as you can have an error code pop realated to setting the clock, and it's tricky to fix. I forget it's been so long, I need to refresh.
@@The_SegaHolic Cool, man. Your videos are awesome! I removed the clock capacitor and I even repaired 2 of those traces that control the power/eject buttons using your other video. But I'm considering putting a reliable capacitor in the evil capacitor's place. Thanks for your reply.
@@snowyowl9132 Thanks so much man. yeah, I'll have to look it up again and refresh on the OG XBox knowledge.
Hey Sega Holic, I've been catching up on videos that I've missed from your channel. Specifically, I've seen a few of your Yahoo Japan pickup videos. I'm assuming you're using a proxy service like buyee? If so, would you be willing to give me a rough estimate on how much they charge you in fees and maybe how much shipping costs to Hawaii?
I've been interested in using buyee and I live in southern California so I imagine that the fees you have paid would be very similar to what they would charge me.
Yeah, I use Buyee and fees and shipping varies on final auction price, weight, and shipping service selected. You can rewatch some of them, as serveral of them have the price of the fees. You can also save on fees and shipping as several times during the year, they run promotions, sometimes offerering up to 50% off fees. BTW, they list their shipping rates as well as how they apply fees in their FAQ.
With that said, it is not cheap, but buying and using Yahoo Japan via proxy service is cheaper than eBay most of the time.
thank you for the video! im used to fiddling with tech and building PC's, but ive had bad luck in this case. removed the clock cap from my 2003 og xbox, and now it wont boot. the power light blinks on for a few moments and then just flashes red afterward. any advice?
I just removed mine and now it will turn on but no green light and no signal to TV. Any thoughts? Its from 10/2003 so model 1.4 or 1.5. The capacitor was intact as well. Thanks!
Double check to see if wires and cables are put back snugly. Also make sure the AV cable is in good. If it's still the same, what color is the light around the eject button?
6:17 GREAT VIDEO, How do I find out if my xbox is a 1.6??? is there a stick in the back that tells me or something like that?
Without opening? Manufacture date on the serial number.
xboxdevwiki.net/Hardware_Revisions
You can do Rocky5's softmod, and it tells you on the unleashx dash.
Otherwise, open it up to take a look at the video encoder chip. If it's an XCalibur, then it's a 1.6. Just read the link thoroughly to understand the verbage I'm using.
I have a question: to neutralize the fluid of the clock capacitor do you have to use baking soda or vinegar? Everywhere else in the interent I've read vinegar (and I know this is the case for ordinary elecrtolythic capacitors), but I see you used baking soda in the video, and since I know this is a different kind of capacitor from the "normal" ones I was wondering wether in this case we have to use baking soda instead of vinegar. My intuition is that since vinegar is acid and baking soda is basic, onlyh one will work to neutralize the leakage, but I have no idea what find of fluid this particular capacitor leaks
It's actually not a fluid if you can believe it... it's a gel/gas. I know I did a ton of research into what kind of cap this was. And yeah, baking soda neutralizes acid. That's why you add it in some cakes and stuff and you know it's still good if it bubbles.
itstillruns.com/neutralize-battery-acid-baking-soda-8189182.html
Shoot, I can't believe it's not in the comments. I'll be back after I search this out.... But again, it's not actually a fluid in there... or a solid.. it's actually gas.
@@The_SegaHolic I could find out too with a quick google search that it is actually a gel and not a fluid, but the point is wether it is acid or alkaline, as this determines what chemical to use to neutralize it. So what you are saying is that it actually is an acid (wheras as far as I know, common electrolythinc capacitors have an alkaline leakage), correct?
It's a a Powerstor Aerogel supercapacitor...
solarbotics.com/product/cpag1_0f/
Data Sheet PDF:
cdn.solarbotics.com/products/datasheets/powerstor_aerogel_ps-5102.pdf
And here is the Wikipedia of Aerogel:
It's a solid with it's liquid coponent replaced with gas...
....and I'm not a rocket scientist and like to keep things simple. LOL
@@painco94 Yeah, I thought I put a link in that shows Baking Soda neutralizes acid. But in this case, as in most cases, just clean the area with IPA (Isopropyl Alcohol) as thoughroughly as you can. Make sure to flood the underneath of components repeatedly if you think the material got under. Neutralizing at this point though is overkill. I just wanted to look smart for the RUclipsrs. LOL.Again, just clean thoughroughly and repeated with Isopropyl alcohol.
My XBOX was manufactured in 2005-07-27. But it has Samsung RAM so it's not a 1.6b. How common is this? Before I opened it I was damn sure it was gonna be a 1.6b since it's from 2005.
Yeah, that's about the latest manufactured XBox you're gonna see. Not sure how common it is. You looking for a 1.6b?
@@The_SegaHolic Nah just thought it was weird since I've never heard of 1.6 xboxes from 2005.
Emil Johansson i got a couple of em
Hey SegaHolic! I really enjoy your videos. I had my 1.0 OG Xbox refurbished right before they stopped doing official repairs to them. (I can't recall my issue, but I was happy to get it a checkup right before they stopped doing it). I only heard about this capacitor issue this week so I opened up my old Xbox to take care of this issue. Not only does it look like they updated my heat sinks (awesome!) but maybe they also updated my clock capacitor as well? My clock capacitor doesn't look like the one above. It is gold and black and appears to be a brand of "nichicon" and also says "1.0 F 2.5 V" and "UC (M)" on the sides. The capacitor doesn't appear puffy. Do you think I should still be concerned? I can upload some photos if you are interested in what either came in my 1.0 Xbox or what was updated by the official repair team right before they stopped taking repair orders.
Yeah, I’d love to see some pics.. Could u also take pics of the ser#? And I’m glad u enjoy the vids! Fuel for the next one!
@@The_SegaHolic Hi there! I just sent an email to the address I found on your RUclips About page. I hope you enjoy taking a look at what makes my Xbox tick. :)
@@scotchnichols www.reddit.com/r/originalxbox/comments/7hk9xi/ogxb_14_with_a_nichicon_time_clock_capacitor/
Looks like Nichicon also supplied aerogel caps for the clock.
They replaced the v1.0 board that was originally in there with a v1.1 board. The fan jack on the board is missing, and there are no USB boards for the contoller ports... so that's why you no longer have a fan on the heat sink. A replacement v1.0 board was probably not available.
@@The_SegaHolic Oh nice. That all makes sense. I had not done any research on the Nichicon capacitor since finding it, so thank you for getting some information on it! I will follow the rest of your videos as I work to clean out the dust within the Xbox. There were some good dust balls in there.
@@scotchnichols Yeah, they are easy to take apart. You should have no issues.
I have change the capacitor with 2,5V 1F but clock still asking at boot. I've got a v1.0. Any help?
Could be damaged trace or damaged clock components... just to clarify the cap is only needed if you unplug the system... if the system remains plugged in it should keep time regardless of rather a cap is in it or not...
Awesome video as always
I try to make them at least have some entertainment value. Mahalo for taking the time for commenting.
Link to the phillips DVD drive and link to the capacitors as well please.
I have a Xbox Crystal limited edition from 2002 and the motherboard is completely different from standard versions. Additionaly, the capacitor itself is a high quality one. My friend, an experienced electronics technician, desoldered it, verified it throughly and the capacitor is "healthy". Secondly, the console didn't work AT ALL after the capacitor removal, even though I use UnleashX.
You have a picture? I'd be interested in fixing it for free. Would make an interesting RUclips vid. You just pay for shipping.
The SegaHolic He had the picture, but I don't know if he still has. I may take a picture in the future, because this Xbox is sheduled for capacitor replacemnt just in case - it won't last forever.
I just can't send the console anywhere - I don't let people use my cars and electronics ;) Anyway I have two questions.
Do you have any good place for getting the clock capacitor? So far I only found Aliexpress and Amazon. I have a Panasonic capacitor, but it is a 5V and my friend doesn't like the idea of using it instead of a 2.5V one.
Do you have any idea why my Xbox does not work without the mentioned capacitor? All other consoles seem to boot, as long as there is any mod installed.
Regards
Not possible the crystal edition came out in 2004... its a 1.6 console which dont work without the clock capacitor
Hey! I just ordered an xbox online and noticed the stickers were damaged where the screws are and it asks me to set the time and date each time I unplug it and plug it again. I'm kinda lucky
When the capacitor bursts It no longer keeps time so I would just check if I were you!
I got an Xbox that has the manufacturing date to 1/18/2005 should I remove the clock capacitor? I don’t know much about this stuff
i think if it's in 2005 you have a 1.6b xbox. you'll probably be fine
hasidichomeboy Ay dawg thanks, I kinda had to slowly come to terms with that but with a bit hesitation because I just wanted to be sure but, thanks dawg, appreciate it.
@@George61945 despite being a year old ill still warn you, 1.6 systems wont boot without a clock capacitor... the horror story for the xbox clock capacitor isnt that it used a capacitor to keep for a short period after unplugging but the one the used from 2002-early 2004 where flawed, when they realised they switched to a better capacitor... now ill say any cap has the ability to die but they aren't suppose to leak in the fashion the flawed one does.. caps would typically start leaking from ths top and would die before the leaking typically became severe (with exceptions case by case but typically) the furst likey caps to die on your xbox will probably be the ones around the power supply plug,, when those ones die the cobsole wont switch on but ver easily replaced
Anything BEFORE 2004.
So I just opened my XBX Classic (Crystal, PAL) and it doesn't have those kinds of caps there. However it has 4 "under" the right heatsink which 3 of them is rusted on top. The 4th isnt as bad, but it's got some sign of rust. What do? Do I just remove all of them? Kind of guessing they need replacement?
Those will need replacing. Identify your clk cap and remove that.
A good tell if a cap needs replacing is if it has a bulge on top... caps should be fully flat on top.. under the heat sink should be 5 caps not four.. 6.3v 3300uf caps... replace all of them
And i just realised this was 11 mounths ago 😳
how do you clean off the electrical fluid?
Just use isopropyl alcohol. Lot's of going over the affected areas, even though you've cleaned them until you are satisfied. I presonally go over like 5 times. For cleaning, you should be using isopropyl alcohol, in 92% or 99% strengths. 99 if you can find it.
@@The_SegaHolic I only have ethyl 70% solution alchohol
@@lowell1648 Use it, but make sure it dries completely. Use a fan for about a minute or two to dry. Do this as sometimes liquid gets under components.
The reason is the other 30% is water, which does not dissipate or dry as quickly as isopropyl alcohol.
@@The_SegaHolic So, I just need to put a little bit of alchohol on the cotton bud just so it won't get under the components, right?
Dose this work for 1.6 motherboard
NO... dont remove the clock capacitor in a 1.6 unless you plan on replacing it because 1.6 not only fixed the capacitor issues its made to not run if missing
@@4hand561 yeah it would do error what 5 or 7
$7.99 price tag lol
Adam I leave price tags on to remind me how cheap I got them. 🤷♂️
mine has a red light after i removed it and idk what to do : /
Oh man. You remove the correct one?
@@The_SegaHolic im pretty sure i got the right one, its the same one u took out in the vid. i think when i cleaned the area around it i might have damaged something
@@Sam-gw3gc Well, hopefully you get it fixed. Red lights or Red and Green lights are failures that's beyond me. You can go to the OG XBox subreddit and hopefully someone can help you there.
Was ich lustig finde, ich hatte ein Xbox Motherboard 17Jahre im Keller liegen in Poppfolie verpackt... da ist der Clockcap auch ausgelaufen also nichts mit "Spielstunden"... er läuft definitiv aus !
Oh, es leckt definitiv und verursacht ein Chaos. Reinigen Sie den Bereich einfach mit Isporopylalkohol.
When’s prt2?? Great video🙂🙂🙂
After some rest, I'll have it coming in the next day or so. Thanks.
Mine not leaked, but anyway i removed it yesterday.
Awesome man. One less thing to worry about.
Yeah, mine looked great too. And my Xbox is from 2001, a version 1, but I went ahead and removed it anyway just yesterday.
remove the clock capacitor
I think im too late 😔😪