DEALER FEES You Shouldn't Pay in 2024 The Homework Guy
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- DEALER FFES on retail price cars are junk! Retail car prices already significantly HIGHER than PRIVATE PARTY PRICES! WHY? Because they do paperwork for you, register your vehicle, detail and clean it. So, WHY should you also pay them a DOCUMENT FEE or a PREP FEE when you're already paying for it? It's totally ridiculous!
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This video arms you with information that explains WHY you shouldn't pay Dealer Fees. The information that explains the difference between dealer retail and a private party seller is readily available on a google search: 1) Handle all the paperwork associated with ownership, title transfer and registration. (So why would you pay a doc fee, which clearly is a fee for a service already covered in a dealer retail price?). 2) Cars have been thoroughly inspected and if necessary, repaired. (So why would you ever pay a dealer prep fee when it is clearly already covered in the added cost of a dealer retail price? If they spent more money fixing it, that should be reflected in the price). 3) They have to provide you with a car history check (btw, there are tons of dealers who skip this entirely, even though it's one of their responsibilities of being a licensed dealer. The history of the vehicle they are selling is supposed to be entirely transparent.)
Hi Kevin, I have one question, can the dealers refuse a costumer just buy refusing to pay the unwanted fees?
Kevin and Elizabeth, I am looking to buy a new vehicle now. I tried your method of having them email me a OTD price. They included the dealer ad-ones in that price and would not budge on removing one of them. I went in to see if I could get them removed in person. No dice, the sales manager told me that the car I was looking at wasn’t the car for me. I told him no, that’s the right car, this is just the wrong dealership. My wife and I walked out. Time to move on to the next dealer.
I agree with Charles. Out-the-door price is key. If you negotiate $30,000 out-the-door and they want to charge $1 for the car and a $29,999 "Dealer thumb-twiddling fee", that is perfectly fine.
Thumb twiddling fee...lol. That's as legit a title as any they use!
Great Education Video, I followed your steps via email, I knew about the fake fees but not all of them. I sent the email and called them out on the 5000.00 Dollars in added fees and before I did this they changed the price of the car 3 times. When I sent them the next email saying I wound not pay for a 3000 dollar paint protection and a 300 dollar nitrogen fee and a 300 tire and battery fee and a 2000 dollar Doc fee and a few more fees. All the sudden they decided to email me saying they would get back to me on this. Never heard back from them, I am so glad I did this before wasting over an hour drive and basically get robbed like I did with my last car dealership that some how over charged me 20000 thousand, how they did this without me noticing I don't know until now after watching these videos. I wish I could show the emails to the FDC I saved them all. Damn Crooks. How does this be allowed to happen without them paying fines or something ? Sucks I did not get a vehicle today but I learned a bit from you. Thank You for your posts.
Tax, Tag and Title. That's it. Anything else and I'm not signing on the bottom line. I realize I'm old and old school, but I remember when we didn't have to pay for a company to do the paperwork for a sale.
For decade's before the internet and Social media the Car Dealer's had the advantage. But Now we the consumer's can level the playing field and even take advantage and play these Car dealership against each other. Knowledge and Information is Power!
Traded in a vehicle two months ago placed a banana sticker on the oil filter two weeks later I happen to stop by the dealer to see the vehicle on the lot for what I traded it in in the markup was about 25% but they had a oil change replacement sticker I popped the hood and it’s the same oil filter reconditioning my foot
Yes,ask for an out the door price but it must have a breakdown of the costs to avoid paying dealer fees.
Our OTD email template does exactly that. Thanks for your comment!
I recently tried to buy a used car,the sale price was $22,390.......Dealer fees,doc fees and sale tax up the car sale an extra $3,000....RIDICULOUS
@@southeastd.c5636 Agree. Hope you got a good car. :)
@@bp39047 I'm still searching lol
@@southeastd.c5636 Glad you didn't buy. :)
Great information !Thank you both.
New Sub here. I'm so glad I come across your videos. I'm trying to learn all I can before my next car purchase. And these videos are greatly helpful.
I like all your videos it is nice to keep people informed as of what they can do to save and the dealer still makes some profit just not so much as they may want. And its easy for me to walk away from a deal after listening to your videos thank you for helping us all being informed ,the dealer in our town tells his salesman not to give the customers too much information and you have to be savvy to make a deal or walk
Thank you for the advice
You guys the best!
Thx Kevin for this video
You all are OUTSTANDING,AWESOME, Knowledgable, Mentors!
Very rarely I write comments but You and Elizabeth deserve a big respect and a noble price!!!! Thanks for all you're doing. 🙏🏅🏅
Thank you so much!
You should add that motorcycle dealers (Harley as an example) have lots of added fees as well. I am looking for a new bike and here are some of the added fees over MSRP. Doc fee $589.00, electronic filing fee 199.75, prep was 273.00, tire fee 2.00 dollars, tag agency fee 85.00, doc stamps, 117.25. Battery fee 1.50. And that was just one dealer. Also the bike was 2k over MSRP to begin with with then makes me pay more in taxes which makes the payment higher!!!!!
Several years ago I did this on a used car. Price was $2800 I told him I would pay $2800 OTD deduct your taxes and fees from that number and it worked.
I do that every time. I tell them to add as many fees as they can. The more the merrier. Because they are non taxable and reduce my tax liability. But they all come off our agreed to OTD price.
Thanks guys! I really appreciate the information.
Our pleasure!
I've been watching your videos for some time and these Negotiating tactics Apply to not only purchasing a vehicle but a motorcycle deal As well. Thank you so much for the great advice keep up the good work you both rock!!
Great observation. The dealers are quite similar!
Wow! You guys are great! Been doing a lot of research and this was packed with great tips you will be hearing from me! Thank you!
All the public is not stupid. We know when a dealer is charging almost double for a vehicle.
Great info!
Thanks Kevin for insightful advice with car buying service I will be reaching out to you and Elizabeth very soon in the market of purchasing a new SUV
Your videos are really helping me understand how crazy this process is! 😵💫 Truly grateful for finding your videos before I walked into a dealership
You are so welcome. Glad you found us!
My favorite is the double charge for freight/destination, which is already included in the MSRP.
Love what you tell us here. Keep it up
Thanks, will do!
wow, you guys have been arounnd for 13 years?! i wish that i ran into y'all way back then. i go back all the way to the late 90s reading edmunds. glad to have you in my corner now.
As much as they want for gadget baskets today you almost need a lawyer like buying a home.
I don't need a car for a long time but I'll for sure enlist your help when I do.
A coworker once said I'm so tight I squeak. Took it as a compliment and it kept me out of some ripoff deals too.
Destination Fee . . .Bingo ! . . . Thank you for addressing that . . . It seemed obvious to me . . . it is a common dealer trick in MD
Hope your holiday season is great K & E 🎄!
Thanks, Belty Cat! Same to you. We appreciate your frequent comments on our videos!
Im getting ready to buy my first car and felt a bit lost. Your videos have been so helpful. THANK YOU 🙏
Listening to this channel this was something we immediately axed when we bought my wife's car last month!!!
With the supply shortage the dealers are loathe to reduce or eliminate their "market adjustment." They feel as though they are in the driver's seat and want to add all kinds of "mandatory options."
Leather 1,500 (we want this)
power lift gate 1,500 (we want this, too)
Protection package 777.00 -splash guards, all season mats, tray (don't want, they won't remove)
Apex Vehicle Mgmt System 955.00 (don't want this, they won't remove)
Environmental Safety Package 975.00 (don't want this, they won't remove)
Ceramic Tint/Nitrofil/Dealer prep 685.00 (Don't want this, they won't remove)
Dealer Processing fee 789.00 (?)
In Canada, many dealers have a price with financing and a cash price. There is a $2,000 up price on the cash. I usually walk out when the sales guy think this is not excessive.
I always buy private party, usually for less than $1000. I make sure I can deal with any problems first. After new tires and possibly ball joints, control arms, and u-joints I'm in it for about 1500 to 2000. I definitely can't afford cheap cars if I can't do the work myself. I'm driving a 2000 f150 that I picked up for $350. The starter had a dead spot even though it tested good, and the battery cables were junk. Total spent so far is right at $425 because it had good tires and a good battery.
Thanks for the video.
You are welcome!
R/O for the PDI - I never knew such a thing existed - Thanks for Pointing it out
I'm still getting emails from a local dealership (owned by a dealer group) that never sent me an OTD price on a vehicle I was interested in, but they want me to come in and make a deal. Meanwhile, I bought a car over 6 months ago.
I want to thank you for educating me! I am going today and put your words of wisdom to use
Don't let them stick you with fake dealer fees! They are already being compensated for what they do, built right into the price! They'll be stunned when you tell them that! I like this line "You know, and I know, that you're already being paid for what you do built right into a dealer retail price. There's no need for me to also pay a fee and give you a double dip on your services." When they say, "But, but, but!" "I say, we both know that's a pile of crap, so let's stop playing this game."
@@KevinHunter thank you so very much
How’d it go?
I FREAKING LOVE THIS CHANNEL
Thank you, Cip!
My husband and I were at the table, ready to make a deal when I said I wouldn’t pay it. My husband said I HAVE TO pay it. Whatever. Stephen Wade Toyota in St. George UT.
I will be contacting you soon ! Thank you ! Kevin and Elizabeth!
We look forward to hearing from you!
Are you planning on putting together a PDF on fees? that would be a great addition to your car buyers guide
Great idea. We will do that!
Working with Hendrick Auto in Raleigh, NC and see this on every correspondence- This is going to be a load of fun negotiating with these guys
*All pricing excludes $699 dealer admin fee, sales tax, DMV fees, and any dealer installed accessories.
I've posted this before, but Hendrick sells about 220,000 vehicles annually. multiply that by $699 and you get $153,780,000 (you read that right - over $153 MILLION) annually - just in doc fees - not to mention the thousands in profit they're already making on each vehicle. dealers have literally hundred of millions of reasons to be so psychotically protective of their "doc" fees.
@@connor_flanigan not sure if you have ever worked at a dealership but "thousands on each vehicle" is entirely inaccurate.
@@cjdew45 let me guess - they only make $200 profit on a sale - if they're lucky. and some times they even lose money, right? or they make all their money on the service department or selling parts? not sure if you've ever OWNED a dealership (or any other business,) but if the profit margin isn't sufficient, they wouldn't mess with it. they pay about 60-75% of the sticker price for the vehicle. no one in their right mind would pay $50,000 for anything in hopes they might sell if for $50,200.
@@connor_flanigan welcome to our store sir! Can show you PLENTY of deals the past 6 months where we lost money and i got paid a $100 mini (used car). The markup in one of our vehicles is $1100.. the next vehicle $1900… the next vehicle $2100.. Kia and Hyundai have WAY more markup than our brand. Not even remotely close. To say all dealerships makes “thousands” on each car is literally dumb. Over allowing on trades, minimal markup, no addendums. No chance you are correct.
@@cjdew45 so you're a salesman?
When I bought a premium certified used CR-V in mid 2021. when there was a shortage of new and used vehicles, I looked at the sticker price and the $400 Doc fee. I knew the sticker price was fair in that market and I offered them that but not a dime more, other than government fees like sales taxes and insurance. I then told the sales person it was time to see the F&I person. That startled them a but as that in an insider term for the person that sells you on all the extra crap and where the dealership doubles their profit (or more).
So when I sat down I said they must be the F&I person and their whole attitude changed to something like "Old buddy, lets not waste time. We're not going to screw you". They just asked "Down Payment". I answered $2000 deposit then and there and the balance on delivery. Sorry, no financing spiff for you.
I pointed out I would not pay the doc fee. He asked about an Extended warranty. I replied as a Certified used Honda the factory drivetrain warranty was still in effect until the fall of 2023. The sales person had told me that when making their pitch.
They then guessed I did not want the diamond coat and seat protector. Bingo. They wrote is up for the exact amount, printed it out cleanly with no games and I did an e-transfer for the deposit with my phone. Picked up a draft for the rest that afternoon and they picked me up at home the next morning to get it the vehicle as this dealer was 30 miles from home. No fuss. Smooth as a car transaction gets.
I knew these insider terms from a friend that had worked selling used cars at a Ford dealership 40 years ago.
One thing I've noticed lately, the OTD price I've been getting include the junk fees. It's like they don't care.
Good Morning, went to your website looking for the OTD Template you mentioned in this video. I did not see a link for the template but did see the Dream Car Plan: What To Consider.
Check back later today. I'll make sure it's there.
STG AUTO GROUP IN BELLFLOWER CA will not even throw numbers on email, they want you to come in. I wave them goodbye
When I was young and dumb about 30 years ago, I bought a used pick up truck from a stealership. I quickly realized I couldn’t afford the payment and after pleading with the stealership they actually agreed to take back the truck about a month later but for $1,000 less that I bought it for. I said fine, whatever and took it back. That day after giving them back the keys, they told me that on top of the $1,000 loss I was taking, they needed an extra $50 for some sort of “paperwork filing fee” with the State. I told them I would come back the next day with the extra $50 but I never did and I never heard from them again. Stealerships.
I walked away from a dealership who was gonna charge me ridiculous fees such as a doc fee and way too much for a title fee, etc. When I mentioned I can do the title and tag fee at the county office I don't think that went over well. I didn't go back
The salesman and I agreed, my 2 cars for their one car. EVEN.
The salesman comes back then and says fifteen hundred dollars and my two cars. He says the fifteen hundred dollars covers the doc fee, tax, tag, & title. I messaged him go ahead and sell the car. Thanks for your time..
I confirmed the day after that on an even trade there is ZERO TAX.
The tag and title would only have been no more than 40 dollars.
I kept my two vehicles. I wasn't born yesterday. I'm not stupid.
I'm looking for a Honda Pilot, its only February and in the Seattle area a dealership is offering their 2022 models at "a penny over Invoice" - Everyone selling 2 to 4 k under MSRP now
I am so exhausted trying to buy a pre-owned car right now. I was told by one dealership that the fees they added in were mandatory and that they had no obligation to sell me the car if I insisted on them being removed. I walked out and they continue to call me. Needles to say I am looking elsewhere. I contacted another dealership that had in small print, a disclaimer that said that the prices listed were less a mandatory $4995 down payment. This was also ONLY if I used their finance options which start at a 4:32 interest rate. I have a pre-approval from my credit union which is at 3.49, so that option does not benefit me. When I mentioned this, the salesman told me that most people do not bother to read the fine print and that they cannot change their business practices to suit one person. I am losing hope. Does ANYONE know an honest upfront dealership in New York?
I know I am late to your comment. However, I would start looking at car concierge services if you dont mind dropping a couple hundred. Obviously, you'll have to make sure it is legit and they don't have a brokers license. Other than that. They seem to be a good option for people who don't want to get robbed blind and don't really understand the negotiation process with dealers.
If they are a good and legit business. They will usually do all the negotiating for you with your set parameters of what you want. Then they'll contact you when they have found what you wanted.
Your only real obligation is going in to pick up your car once said negotiating is done on your behalf by your car concierge man/woman.
Coukd be an option for you, especially in todays market. Would you rather loss $800 and hire a professional former dealer to help get you the best deal. Or try and google your own research, try and out haggle a dealer that does it for a living and possibly lose THOUSANDS of $$$ and time driving dealer to dealer
Some car dealers are straight forward. When they say out the door cash they stand by their word. Some but not all.
I want to go buy a car just so I can have you guys help lol. Great video keep up the good work!
Don't be tempted to jump into this car market unless you "desperately need" another car. Desperation is the only thing that should be driving a car buyer in a historically high car market. It's also desperation that prompts a RUclips creator to tell you that now is a good time to buy a car. Lies for clicks. Sadly, most people are impatient, so they don't mind being told a lie.
@@KevinHunter I have 8 cars granted 4 are collector cars, but I’m good for a while. My wife’s car is sitting at the dealer waiting on a new transmission that’s covered under warranty, the lead time is 120 days. Good thing we have extra cars to use so this inconvenience didn’t cost us money having to rent a car.
You just wanna talk to Elizabeth. :) (Not like you're the only one, but that's a heck of an expensive phone call to buy a car to talk with her.)
@@markh.6687 no, I just like the idea of watching the finance and sales guy squirming and giving a better deal. Although the last time I bought a car at a dealer I did a great job negotiating but that was a rare experience. And I’d rather have Kevin on the phone he seams like he would be firmer with the dealer.
@@TheOriginalLugnuts Okay, okay I'll let you ignore Elizabeth and work with Kevin. 😁And yes, watching the stealership people squirm towards that better deal can be entertaining (and financially rewarding as well) if one has the time and fortitude to work the deal.
These videos have helped me to establish to the car dealers that I can't be taken for a ride... But, what is a reliable channel for Canadians best practices.... Do we say no to dealer fees in Canada? All the dealers seems to quote dealer fees here in Canada.
Can you please make a video on how to get the best lease deal possible, thank you for your videos im your subscriber & love your videos, thanks for your hard work, waiting for your reply
I literally left a dealership two days ago because they tacked on about 10k over their web-based price for a used 2021 car with no add-ons/mods to it and would not budge. I left asap, and what do you know, they marked up the listing to 43k after my visit. Guess they assumed I was going to report it. Wish I found this video earlier, but that's fine. I'm going hunting today at other locations even more prepared.
My question is: I'm quite certain your educating us is well known by dealerships. What are they doing to counter your expertise that we can recognize while being a viable volleyball counterpart?
Dealers by me are starting to tack on absurd things like $1500 for "paint protection". One dealer has an additional fee for mud guards even though the sticker price already shows mud guards listed.
Those dealers will also begin to die in the not distant future with attitudes like that.
Yep. Subaru is trying to force those crap extras...and I walked.
Hi Kevin, What should you pay for a Toyota Corolla brand new? Is it invoice plus like 500 bucks? Or what amount above the invoice?
Get rid of dealers please. They provide no value to the consumer I don’t want paint protection and Scotchgard for $1000.
I've purchased cars from dealers that have fees, the key is to negotiate around them.
More insidious than dealer fees are when dealers install mandatory “features” on used cars such as security systems and interior/exterior coatings in order to pad the price. The worst part: it’s not the domestic dealers pulling this stunt in my town, but two of the premium Euro luxury dealers.
Both things, fees or add-ons are designed to pad dealer profits, NOT improve options or value for the buyer.
This week I leased my fourth vehicle from a dealer who didn’t try to cheat me, charge me bogus fees or refused to discount the price. Imagine my surprise after seeing dozens of videos on numerous sites warning me that unless I subscribe for additional fees, I’ll spend the rest of eternity in hell.
I am tentatively supposed to pick up a new car in Winston-Salem North Carolina on Friday. I just saw your web page and videos and now I'm concerned about the deal that I've made. I'm going to finance my Camry, but my husband who is buying a new Toyota truck has got his money from the bank and is also taking it to them on Friday. Neither of us have signed anything but we did make what we thought were good deals now I'm not so sure.
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Well. I'm in the market for a Kia Rio. Been looking at dealerships, asking for OTD prices, keep getting told, by every Kia dealership I go to, that if I want the OTD price, I have to let them run a credit check on me. That list at 2:22 is great and all, but if you want a car, and you can't afford to go all over a state or out of state at every dealership, then its kind of a pipe dream, as dealerships I've contacted over the phone and by email, won't even say hello in response without telling you to just come to the dealer lot for prices.
That’s what these idiots don’t understand. I’m a car salesman and would never give OTD price over the phone or email. Most dealers dont
Is there any difference between destination fee and delivery processing and handling fee? And must I pay it on a new car?
Question: Is buying a car in Virginia that includes an 899$ processing fee acceptable in your opinion? Thanks.
Thank you guys , I will give you guys a text on june 2023 to purchase a used car. Greatly appreciate your info!
We look forward to hearing from you!
Is there any difference between destination fee and delivery processing and handling fee? And must I pay it on a new car? 4:28
I want a Honda accord hybrid and they’re in such limited supply around me, with most customers putting down deposits to claim cars coming in, that I feel the email method will not work. I am up to the challenge of sitting down and trying a negotiation armed with THG’s FTC regs, tips and tricks, knowing that I can walk away.
Hi Guys, your videos are great tools. I have a question, when buying a new vehicle, whether it’s a motorcycle or car, I’ve come across a tire disposal fee. What tires are being disposed of when you buy a new vehicle? Is this another rip-off, or a legit mandated fee? Thanks in advance, you are the best!
You can thank state legislators and your governor for that nonsense. They are applying a tire disposal fee (the state is) to every tire the vehicle has, well ahead of disposal, that includes the spare in the trunk. Stupidity, at best. The state asking for a disposal fee on brand new tires is just a money grab.
What is the “government fee” that is separate from taxes? What about “theft shield?
On an OTD price, where does a trade fall into place.?
Wish I knew this information before hand🤦🏼♂️... currently going through where dealership went bankrupt 6 months after paying car. Going over a year and still don't have title or registration. Any advise ?
🎉 FANTASTIC CONTENT !!!!
Thank you. Glad you think so!
That's were they stuck it to me after the agreed price then when I went to sign the bottom line they had their $995 fees on there I was in love with the truck at that point ( sucker ) I bought it
That's why we recommend getting an OTD Price before visiting the dealer. they can't tuck in things after the fact!
Great line from the movie Heat, "don't let yourself get to attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat"
Ive got an AutoNation dealer with a "One Price" policy who's trying to take on $2k dealer fees on the (OnePrice + Tax) cost for a deal for my Mother-in-law.
This is an AutoNation in Pembroke Pines Florida....if figure i should warn folks.
That being said...whats a good template or approach to deconstruct their little ploy. I dont want the MIL to deal with the hassle.
You should still get the $250 "low tire pressure insurance" where the dealer will add up to 3PSI to any unmounted wheel assembly!
lol
Anybody who knows anything knows that nitrogen is old school and you should be using argon.
@@bluesky2145 Hydrogen is better it makes the car 0.02 grams lighter!
Does this apply to Canada as well?
Can u give some circumstances that would cause us an sec complaint
Miss Elizabeth you were tough lady.. can you come and go with me to the dealership.. That's that's just a dream wish you could come true I live in Buffalo New York.. thank you wonderful people for your information is well needed.. the dealership see a lady coming by herself.. and they think it's a big payday for them... Should I go to my local bank.. I bank with a credit union.
And get the money for from them... And then in an end tell them I'm paying cash... After I get all the nonsense fees out of the way.. an FTC.. I'll hit him with that too if I have to but I'll look at your videos about five more times
We'll get a car tonight started out with almost 4,300 in fees and I got them down to 1300. If I can get them down to zero I'll send a big tip your way.
I'm been sending emails out to my local Hyundai dealers. I've received one reply back giving me msrp then a list of dealer ad-ons but no taxes or fees. What do you do as far as the ad ons at this point? It's a vehicle in transit and they claim the ad ons are security, door edge guard along with paint and fabric protection. Is it common to just have them send msrp and not the OTD or other fees?
A dealer I'm dealing with grumbled that Tesla lowered their prices and forced him to lower the Model X price by $10K! The manager agreed to buy my trade in for $37K previously. He stated, "I don't want any Teslas." Note KBB listed my Model 3 Long Range as $39,500. He won't bargain. Should I just walk away? It's a 2020 Long Range Plus with 9K miles. Listed at $79K.
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So, if I say I don’t want to pay a separate destination fee, and I proclaim I’m already paying for it, where is that fee included? Is it in the MSRP but not worded? How do I prove that it would be double-dipping if I pay it in a separate fee line?
The seller can add anything on the tab if they are think they can get away with it ,your choice as a customer is to sit there and take it in the butt or walk away . Remember it’s your choice.
Tag and title fee as well!?????
I notice deaerlers are charging document fees even with manufacturing employees discount and the general public. I'am in Michigan. Is this legal? They also keep raising this fee every couple of years.
Doc fee is a joke and not legal. All FTC info points to the truth- it's a greedy double dip fee you don't need to pay
I have a itemization of sale and on certain charges there wasn’t a description of the charges about $2144 charges but no description of the charge is that illegal?
the ftc will not do a thing but take your complaint. Then once they get enough to make a case 5 or 100 yrs from now its too late.
Hi Kevin Love your channel I've learned so much from you guys and I still got a lot more to learn can you guys talk about the CAT tax in Oregon quite a few car dealerships in the state of Oregon are charging you a cat tax and they all told me that I had to pay it even though I don't own a business that handles over 750,000 worth of product a year that's the tax they have to pay and yet they are forcing their customers to pay it I told every single one of them I'm not paying it and sure enough I walked away
Any entity doing business in Oregon may owe the tax if they have more than $1 million of commercial activity in Oregon. This includes C-corporations, S-corporations, Partnerships, LLCs, and sole proprietors. The tax is applied only to commercial activity amounts above $1 million dollars. If a dealer charges anyone else this tax it's fraudulent tax collection.
So to be clear, the only fee that is legal and that I should be paying is the destination charge? All other fees are illegal?
THERE IS A 8% FEE ON THE DEARLER PRICE ON NEW CARS
I was told by a dealer that fees for added accessories are negotiable, but if a dealer fee is listed and charged to one customer, then it must be charged to all customers. I told him that I would have to verify that. What say you.
Talked my dealership into 25 from 32MSRP. HOWEVER, I’m trading in a car valued at 21,000. I owe 9k on it..I told them I’d take the car for 22 or as close as possible. It’s a new Honda accord. Am I shooting for the stars here?
What about asking the dealer to send a copy of the dealer invoice via email? Thoughts?
Car dealers with doc fees are wondering why they don't sell more cars. Because all the public is not ignorant.
Dealers in the southeast are charging 4k over MSRP and not bargaining. I'm trying to buy a Honda civic and failing. The only technique I am having success is walking out with no car.
Soon enough, they will be begging for your return.
what is the difference between a stock car and new car . ive notice cars online giving me stock cars but no new cars. why are used cars high as new cars can someone explain. delivery fee is interesting .