You hit the nail on the head on the transmission. I specced a GT3 with the manual and after 4k miles I am unloading it and getting a Touring with PDK. I had a PDK before the manual and it was enjoyable all the time whereas the manual is only enjoyable when out playing with the car. Living where I live most the driving is getting to where I want to go.
Awesome video. Only one on RUclips that actually goes deep into the most important option - the transmission. Also glad not another manual or die video.
Thanks for the video .I am awaiting my gt3 touring which I’ve also specced with a pdk and ceramics.Driven a manual recently on race track which is involving but happy with the pdk which I am familiar with previous 991.2gt3 and 992 Carrera 4.Of the opinion that touring is understated and as the name implies I intend to tour rather than “race” with the car.Will not use as my daily so only driven for the enjoyment rather than necessity.Look forward to future reviews
Nice real world review - liked the T vs Wing comparison. I didn’t find the steering at all twitchy - planted but light when steering inputs. In Normal mode I found it quite civilised and could easily DD it. I found the PCCB ok but not in the same class as found on the TTS - maybe pad composition change for the 992. Totally endorse your choice of PDK !
Thanks for watching John! Appreciate the feedback from a fellow owner and the support. It makes the effort worthwhile 💪🏻 and i totally agree the tts brakes are the best brakes on earth bar none
Elwood, I love the channel. Another great vid. You’ve got some good BS and excellent color commentary. I’ve got a winged car coming in April, sofas, 3 pedals, chalk on Neo wheels. Do I want that crazy exhaust? I’m going to take it to the golf course, the grocery store, small bits of lumber and tools in the back for projects, probably a big dog up front, it’s gonna get miley in a hurry, you get the idea. Will my neighbors call the cops on me with that set up? I’ll trade you and airplane ride for a GT3 ride if you come through STL!
Hey buddy please, I’m begging you do something about the volume of your voice versus the engine noise the wind noise etc. I’ll elaborate, I have to have the volume at 70% just to hear what you’re saying and I’m very interested in what you’re saying I find your videos very informative. I’m taking delivery of my GT3 touring in about one week, so I have been enjoying your videos, but please do something about the volume, I can only watch your videos during the day, because my wife and kids complain that I listen to the TV too loud when I watch your videos. Now I apologize if I am off-base I’ve never done RUclips videos but I have watched other RUclipsrs in much louder cars be able to pull this off. I hope you can too. Thanks man.
I do voice enhance with editing software on my videos because i use iphone and u otherwise get way more background noise. Car is too loud otherwise. Sorry boss. Enjoy the touring.
I don't think I will get to the gt3 level, I got the 718 sypder manual, my first manual, and it is a handful compared to my 911 c2s pdk. Why couldn't porsche make the exhaust better on the spyder if the could do it on the GT3 ? Good explanation, that's 2 gt3 beauties !
Nice comparo on PDK vs Manual tranny in 992 Touring! It would have been nice to have your buddy in the winged car talking through his rationale on the manual in the video as well. I did not find the PDK to be involving enough on the 992 GT3 and am thinking about switching to a manual but many folks have echoed your concerns over the manual in the 992 gen car.
Awesome machine!! Maybe if Porsche adjust these NA engines to burn ethanol , the emissions regulation would be accomplished ins’t it? Considering these cars are in a exclusive market, there’s no millions os GT3 s sold per year I mean.
@@plife911 265/35r20 and 325/30r21 Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires have more sidewall and a softer sidewall for comfort, also your alignment might be contributing to the tramlining.
You’ve got a GT3 and Turbo S right? I’ve seen you post on Dragy I had a 991.2 CS before going to the “dark side” (lol) with a Tesla when I needed a sedan for the kiddos car seat. Was my 4th Porsche and favorite of the bunch, even over a 997.2 Turbo I had because the 991.2 with the PSE had a nice burble to it vs the Turbo sounding like a vacuum machine Personally, I have always preferred the torque from Turbo Porsches vs NA, having to be extremely high in the rev range for good power just doesn’t do it for me. I welcomed the 991.2 going to all turbos, but I know that makes Porsche purists cringe LOL. For me useable power/torque is more fun. Obviously, I also LOVE the instant torque from the EV Have to say Tesla has changed my mind though and on my second Model S now; having a 4 four door that runs low 9 second 1/4 miles is just insane; and I got over missing the ICE sound
To be honest i like the turbo s better. Its a beast and dont need more power personally (even stock). I ended up ordering a 23 cab pts with sport classic interior and zero weight options (including 4 ways). Im gonna go apeshit with the exhust and i think thats my dream setup
I read your comment on Rennlist about your dealership geo2 bonus 911 Turbo S allocation. Can you tell me which dealership? I live Chicago also, North Center, and I am having a heck of time finding one, same for the GT500 but I have given up on that car.
All the allocations are already gone, tried to get one didnt work out ☹️ supposedly more allocations coming next month but not sure how many of those will be 911s. Ill pm you once i find out.
@@plife911 I talked to every dealership and Loeber had the highest ADM. They are having a Cars and Coffee this Sunday and I will probably go…if I can get up that early, two parties the day before, check out my the last two videos on my Channel.
Thats a very hard question man. It kikd of needs its own video. Short version is. Gt3 is a better performing car by alot. Also alot crazier. However it really depends on your use case
How do you think this car compares to the manual touring? I watched your M3 review and it made me wonder about a manual in that car as well? I have actually about to order an M3 with the manual and I'm sure the XDrive has lots of benefits but I can't wait to control the car with a manual transmission.
I never drove the manual g80 but people like it. They are completely different animals, both great. The x drive is awesome for my use case and i had the car running 10.4 quarters with jb4. At the end of the day i like the 6 speed manuals better than the 7 speed. All day
@@plife911 Nice ! I’m trying to decide between the Kline and dundon full exhaust to put on my 992 pdk touring. I love loud and high pitch so leaning slightly towards the Kline since it comes in inconel but they both sound amazing 😎 🏎 I look forward to all your future videos 🙌🏻 thanks
The titanium dundon muffler also has a high pitch (probably higher than the kline). Also makes power. Did a separate video because its so good. Mine will be for sale in about a month. Getting a 4rs
@@plife911 I will probably do the Dundon then. The 4rs is going to be awesome. Love that the carbon intake is right behind your head. Looking forward to seeing your review of it 😎🏎 thanks again
@@plife911 Yeah I've read in the forums that it was a *really* difficult situation last year. People paid a *lot* of money for some of these. Glad for anyone that got one though. Let's hope Porsche can make enough of them.
Porsche can fix this problem if they wanted. Porsche know what is going on. How about the Porsche USA selling a 2022 GT3 Touring to the Store Manager for invoice, only to have the Store manager drive the car for a few weeks and then sell it as "used" for significantly over invoice. Porsche co-signs the shenanigans. Look like they way want to take an alternative model of business in order to stay relevant.
Thank you for the correction Brian. I also noticed that on the tech specs after filming. Whatever it is… its lighter than 991.2 and they programmed the tcu around it. I kind of didnt like it
One of the best overall review if not the best! He covered everything I wanted to know and more.
Thank u my friend! This is why I make the videos! For people exactly like you 💪🏻
Damn... i liked this review SO much.
Give credit, where credit is due.
Well done and congratulations on your ownership.
Looks amazing.
Thank you for the nice words. Appreciate it
You hit the nail on the head on the transmission. I specced a GT3 with the manual and after 4k miles I am unloading it and getting a Touring with PDK. I had a PDK before the manual and it was enjoyable all the time whereas the manual is only enjoyable when out playing with the car. Living where I live most the driving is getting to where I want to go.
Both are great but I agree the PDK in manual mode is just as engaging most of the time. Congrats on the new touring!
Fantastic review. PDK 991.2 GT3 owner here who wrestled with the decision but honestly you’ve nailed it.
Awesome video. Only one on RUclips that actually goes deep into the most important option - the transmission. Also glad not another manual or die video.
The trans is a big deal and a very tough call on this one. At the end of the day, no regrets! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video .I am awaiting my gt3 touring which I’ve also specced with a pdk and ceramics.Driven a manual recently on race track which is involving but happy with the pdk which I am familiar with previous 991.2gt3 and 992 Carrera 4.Of the opinion that touring is understated and as the name implies I intend to tour rather than “race” with the car.Will not use as my daily so only driven for the enjoyment rather than necessity.Look forward to future reviews
The
Is spec and sound is amazing. You did a good job Pete
Thanks James!!
Love this review and glad your happy with my product s. Garry
Gary your inserts are top of the line! You have mastered oem fit and finish
Nice real world review - liked the T vs Wing comparison. I didn’t find the steering at all twitchy - planted but light when steering inputs. In Normal mode I found it quite civilised and could easily DD it. I found the PCCB ok but not in the same class as found on the TTS - maybe pad composition change for the 992. Totally endorse your choice of PDK !
Thanks for watching John! Appreciate the feedback from a fellow owner and the support. It makes the effort worthwhile 💪🏻 and i totally agree the tts brakes are the best brakes on earth bar none
Nice comparison! I’ve got Garry’s 911R inserts as well. They look great!
Elwood, I love the channel. Another great vid. You’ve got some good BS and excellent color commentary. I’ve got a winged car coming in April, sofas, 3 pedals, chalk on Neo wheels. Do I want that crazy exhaust? I’m going to take it to the golf course, the grocery store, small bits of lumber and tools in the back for projects, probably a big dog up front, it’s gonna get miley in a hurry, you get the idea. Will my neighbors call the cops on me with that set up? I’ll trade you and airplane ride for a GT3 ride if you come through STL!
A nice in between option is the BC fabs inconel rear section. Check the long term update video
Hey buddy please, I’m begging you do something about the volume of your voice versus the engine noise the wind noise etc. I’ll elaborate, I have to have the volume at 70% just to hear what you’re saying and I’m very interested in what you’re saying I find your videos very informative. I’m taking delivery of my GT3 touring in about one week, so I have been enjoying your videos, but please do something about the volume, I can only watch your videos during the day, because my wife and kids complain that I listen to the TV too loud when I watch your videos. Now I apologize if I am off-base I’ve never done RUclips videos but I have watched other RUclipsrs in much louder cars be able to pull this off. I hope you can too. Thanks man.
I do voice enhance with editing software on my videos because i use iphone and u otherwise get way more background noise. Car is too loud otherwise. Sorry boss. Enjoy the touring.
I would've gone with the PDK maybe but considering I have the STO and F8 was a no brainer getting the manual.
Thats a sick garage bro! Love the f8 and sto is one of my all time favorites!
Good job !!! Excellent review!!!!
Looking forward for next video 👍
Excellent review, spot-on
💪🏻🥳thanks chief
I don't think I will get to the gt3 level, I got the 718 sypder manual, my first manual, and it is a handful compared to my 911 c2s pdk. Why couldn't porsche make the exhaust better on the spyder if the could do it on the GT3 ?
Good explanation, that's 2 gt3 beauties !
Nice comparo on PDK vs Manual tranny in 992 Touring! It would have been nice to have your buddy in the winged car talking through his rationale on the manual in the video as well. I did not find the PDK to be involving enough on the 992 GT3 and am thinking about switching to a manual but many folks have echoed your concerns over the manual in the 992 gen car.
Thanks Pedro. Best thing to do is try and find someone with the manual to let u feel it. Its hard to know from others impressions
Also, the guy with the manual will never order a pdk as long as manual is available. He is 6mt to the bone.
Great spec on the Touring!
Awesome machine!! Maybe if Porsche adjust these NA engines to burn ethanol , the emissions regulation would be accomplished ins’t it? Considering these cars are in a exclusive market, there’s no millions os GT3 s sold per year I mean.
Bro the transmission perspective is fire. I need to drive the PDK in it 😁 please make more vids!
Thanks G. Will do. Cant wait to set up tts cab with some cats and do a back 2 back 🙌🏻
Wouldn’t it have been more logical to have the Touring as a manual (as a GT car) and the winged one with PDK (track)?
Yes you would think so :) The good news is, both transmissions are great and work well on both variants. You really cant go wrong either way.
@@plife911 waiting for my oak green touring with manual, July 8 delivery, finally …
Yess! Gonna be epic
Nice review! Question: @P Life - what tires have you got on the Touring? Do you feel any tramlining?
Cup 2. It tramlines like a mofo
@@plife911 My winged came w/ Goodyears and zero tramlining.
@@plife911 265/35r20 and 325/30r21 Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires have more sidewall and a softer sidewall for comfort, also your alignment might be contributing to the tramlining.
@@gen1c8rs88 yes i was definitely planning on alignment. And also was considering getting dubbs for both axles with ps4s
You’ve got a GT3 and Turbo S right? I’ve seen you post on Dragy
I had a 991.2 CS before going to the “dark side” (lol) with a Tesla when I needed a sedan for the kiddos car seat. Was my 4th Porsche and favorite of the bunch, even over a 997.2 Turbo I had because the 991.2 with the PSE had a nice burble to it vs the Turbo sounding like a vacuum machine
Personally, I have always preferred the torque from Turbo Porsches vs NA, having to be extremely high in the rev range for good power just doesn’t do it for me. I welcomed the 991.2 going to all turbos, but I know that makes Porsche purists cringe LOL. For me useable power/torque is more fun. Obviously, I also LOVE the instant torque from the EV
Have to say Tesla has changed my mind though and on my second Model S now; having a 4 four door that runs low 9 second 1/4 miles is just insane; and I got over missing the ICE sound
To be honest i like the turbo s better. Its a beast and dont need more power personally (even stock). I ended up ordering a 23 cab pts with sport classic interior and zero weight options (including 4 ways). Im gonna go apeshit with the exhust and i think thats my dream setup
GRANDE PORSCHE 👍 🇮🇹 🔝
Fucking immaculate Pete! Love it
Thank you, sir 💪🏻🔥
I read your comment on Rennlist about your dealership geo2 bonus 911 Turbo S allocation. Can you tell me which dealership? I live Chicago also, North Center, and I am having a heck of time finding one, same for the GT500 but I have given up on that car.
All the allocations are already gone, tried to get one didnt work out ☹️ supposedly more allocations coming next month but not sure how many of those will be 911s. Ill pm you once i find out.
@@plife911 I talked to every dealership and Loeber had the highest ADM. They are having a Cars and Coffee this Sunday and I will probably go…if I can get up that early, two parties the day before, check out my the last two videos on my Channel.
Very informative! Wondering, how do you compare the GT3T to your Spyder?
Thats a very hard question man. It kikd of needs its own video. Short version is. Gt3 is a better performing car by alot. Also alot crazier. However it really depends on your use case
Great video, very informative! How’s the G80 xdrive after a longer period of owning it?
G80 left for something else. I plan to do a long term impressions video with my buddys g82
How do you think this car compares to the manual touring? I watched your M3 review and it made me wonder about a manual in that car as well? I have actually about to order an M3 with the manual and I'm sure the XDrive has lots of benefits but I can't wait to control the car with a manual transmission.
I never drove the manual g80 but people like it. They are completely different animals, both great. The x drive is awesome for my use case and i had the car running 10.4 quarters with jb4. At the end of the day i like the 6 speed manuals better than the 7 speed. All day
@@plife911 I noticed in a few videos I watched of yours, and tend to watch them all, you do not get your Windows tinted. Is that on purpose?
Yea im a fish bowl guy through and through. I mod the crap out of everything else tho 🤣
Great review ! Is your full dundon exhaust louder then your friends full Kline exhaust or about the same ? Thanks
Similar. He is running valves 100% open all the time (cargraphic valve controller). Ive been doing it recently also. Its glorious 🚀
@@plife911 Nice ! I’m trying to decide between the Kline and dundon full exhaust to put on my 992 pdk touring. I love loud and high pitch so leaning slightly towards the Kline since it comes in inconel but they both sound amazing 😎 🏎 I look forward to all your future videos 🙌🏻 thanks
The titanium dundon muffler also has a high pitch (probably higher than the kline). Also makes power. Did a separate video because its so good. Mine will be for sale in about a month. Getting a 4rs
@@plife911 I will probably do the Dundon then. The 4rs is going to be awesome. Love that the carbon intake is right behind your head. Looking forward to seeing your review of it 😎🏎 thanks again
Out of curiosity, do you happen to know if you can actually get an allocation for somewhat close to MSRP these days?
Prob not. If i ordered now vs last march id be F’ed. 100%
@@plife911 Yeah I've read in the forums that it was a *really* difficult situation last year. People paid a *lot* of money for some of these. Glad for anyone that got one though. Let's hope Porsche can make enough of them.
The dealers are very greedy. Look at autotrader close to a 100 of them for sale for 100k over sticker.
Awesome. Have you still got the spyder?
No spyder is gonzo
No Manual transmission? 😳
Porsche can fix this problem if they wanted. Porsche know what is going on. How about the Porsche USA selling a 2022 GT3 Touring to the Store Manager for invoice, only to have the Store manager drive the car for a few weeks and then sell it as "used" for significantly over invoice. Porsche co-signs the shenanigans. Look like they way want to take an alternative model of business in order to stay relevant.
#shennanigans
Why aren't you using the paddles?
Because Andreas removed the Braun shaver so u dont have to
Hello, did you delete the OPF ?
Full exhaust is swapped. Dundon street headers plus muffler. No opf
Did u get rid of the OPF ?
The whole shenang🥳
Did you sell your M3?
Yep
992 GT3 manual has dual mass flywheel not lightweight single mass
Thank you for the correction Brian. I also noticed that on the tech specs after filming. Whatever it is… its lighter than 991.2 and they programmed the tcu around it. I kind of didnt like it
@@plife911 correct it is lighter than 991.2 thanks