Transmissions: Manual is old-school 4x4 religion, but autoshifters have come a LONG way from the old three speed slushboxes. Autos are generally easier for less experienced drivers and are often preferred for heavy rockcrawlers because you don’t have to fuss with the three-pedal heel-toe tango. Really: it doesn’t matter: run what you brung and bring what you got; have fun, stay on the trails, keep your fingers inside the rollbar, pack it in: pack it out, even if it’s not your mess. 🙏💪♥️
You don't need three pedals if you have a hand throttle, like my car does. Also, heel - toe and handbrakes can be used. I've driven new automatics that are honestly worse then some old autos with half the gears. They have their place, but heavy duty off road driving isn't one of them. It's not the automatic clutch and shifting, it's the lack of direct connection to the engine.
Pretty much agree! Atomatics are easier, but also easier to overheat! I have seen a couple of people ruin their trannys by overheating them Of course, I have also seen people burn their clutches up too! Me, I am old school! Although my cherokee is an automatic, my two jeeps are manuals, as is my 4x4 pickup. I just enjoy driving manuals.
Obviously both types have their place, but it's much easier to learn off-road driving in an automatic unless you are already very proficient with a manual - and know how to properly use the clutch without burning it. I grew up with manuals, and love them for their extremely rugged nature and ability to help out even when the engine is not running. But, I also enjoy my built ZJ with an automatic that is more relaxing - and my wife isn't intimidated by it.
@@michaeldye4318 I'd actually disagree. The direct connection let's you "feel" wheel spin as well as use engine braking down hills. Nobody should be learning to drive off road unless they are already proficient with driving on road. If you can't drive a manual on road, you shouldn't be learning a manual AND off road driving at the same time.
@michaeldye4318 I agree that learning how to off road and simultaneously trying to learn how to operate a clutch would be rather difficult to say the least! I grew up with various vehicles with manual transmission. Trying to teach an adult how to drive a stick shift when all they have ever driven before is a automatic, is a lesson in frustration for both! Still, I wouldn't trade my manual tranny jeeps or pickups up for anything.
I've been driving manuals WAY longer than 10 years, likely with more gears then you've ever driven, with a clutch so heavy that a child could stand on it without it moving. My knees are fine.
@@jasondenson3356 I bet half the people here won't have a clue what a three on the tree is, I've driven four on the tree, along with Spicer and Road Rangers, I actually prefer Spicers over Road Rangers.
I live in western Massachusetts. I've been wheeling from the age of 16. I'm 64 now. I've always ran a standard tranny. Until a little over 3 years ago I was looking for another 4x4 and my brother in law found me an 04 tj in really nice shape with an automatic. Wasn't thrilled about that part. Less than 2 months after buying the jeep I lost my right leg due to an aneurism. I'm liking the automatic now lol. It's all what you're comfortable with.
@Z B Depends on the situation, certainly, but as soon as you have to turn with lockers are engaged, you break any traction you had. Soft snow and power, sure, lock 'em up. Trying to navigate a tight twisty uphill? Not so handy. I had a jeep with ARB locker up front for years in CO, UT, and VT. I only know what my experience has been.
Looks like you all had a great time. Thanks for taking us along for the adventure. The scenery was gorgeous. Glad you didn't get hurt when you fell through and that was a cool shot with the 360 afterwards.
Oh how I miss my 4x4 ! Haven't had it since, . . . ummm, . . . . it's just been faaaaaaar too long. Thanks for taking me on a Freaking Fantabulous ride right form the seat in my living room!
Good times! That looked like it was a hell of a lot of FUN!! 👍👍 Personally I prefer an automatic over a standard shift. I hope that Grumpy is doing good , we miss you a lot Grumpy! Thanks for taking us along Casey!👀
Noo you forgot the model T with front skis and double rear axles with tracks like they used up north in New England especially in New Hampshire. Factory option from Ford as kit
I learned to drive with a manual, and drove manual Jeeps for over 20 years, but will never ever go back. The 8 speed auto is one of the best things about my Jeep Gladiator!
Funny story: we camp at a beautiful Kauai beach called Polihale. It’s isolated off an unimproved pretty sketchy 5 mile road. Gorgeous sunsets. Entertainment is watching tourists bring rental jeeps out onto the sand. One particular couple was stuck to the top of tires. They looked clueless. It was getting close to sunset. So we went running with shovels. After trading off shoveling out the tires, we told them to air down. Each of us took a tire. We strapped them up to yank em out and found one tire almost off the rim. The girl had let all the air out. All of it. She didn’t know. Anyway, we found out it was their first date. (Some first date, flying to Kauai) We figured it was their last as the guy was not impressed as we fixed that tire in pitch dark. 🏝️
I’ve gotten so many people unstuck from that very beach. Watched one rental Jeep back in the early 2000s get eaten by the high tide. Hilarious. Lived in Kauai for years n years. Miss it sometimes.
My first trip there I took a minivan... You just need to know what you're doing. It's a bummer that the only Jeep on Turo in Kauai with a winch is $170 a day. There are two on the big island with winches that are much more reasonable.
@@matthewbeasley7765 yea they don’t want the rental cars out there because that road gets so bad. But it’s a magical place. You also can’t get towed from out there. So pulling out rentals is the norm for us. Just don’t want to see people’s dream vacation ruined ya know?
@@b.s.adventures9421 awww awesome. Ya know it was closed for years because the road washed completely out. Not just 4 foot pot holes every 2 feet. Completely wrecked. Anyway, it’s my fav place on earth and I’ve been to some awesome places. I’ve been here over 20 yrs and don’t want to live anywhere else but ya never know what life is gonna bring. 🌺
I’m super jealous Casey that’s my favorite snow run ever we call it the pucker run because of the angle of the snow. I have crossed Tumalo creek where you guys turned around with twice the size of snow walls.
Im supprised your not into snowmobiling, I watched you help recover those 2 sleds but for the most part we dont need to dig out very depending on the snow conditions. We absolutely love taking our families & in larger groups. Our children have found a whole new respect for all we did for them when they were small. My Daughter gave me a huge Hug telling me how she never realized how much harder it is ridding with a child in front of you! Ahhhh that made my whole weekend 😅 knowing all the miles we logged together from a year old till she was in her teens & able to keep up. I use to strap her to me like a big seatbelt so that she could never hit the bars & for years I could stand up & jump around with ease. Taught my wife to water ski with my arms under hers & my skis outdside... like training wheels... I would lift her up & when she got her balance & would let go of the rope. Where there is a will & everyone was enjoying themselves, we figured out ways for the whole family to be envolved. You should do some overviews again of each rig, how its setup & why, weight & primary usage. Love the family & friends outings! Those who play together stay together.
I believe the height difference between 6’4” and 5’9” is 7” not 5” (like it really makes any difference, right!). Always amazed at the shots from the camera stick. If it weren’t for the infrequent shadow one would believe it was a drone.
on my 5th Jeep. From 1984 to 2013. All 2D's. Wheeled both thru the years. Now I'm old. Knees hurt. Auto all day long for me. If you do heavy wheeling make sure you have a trans cooler. I boiled auto my over one day. After a rebuild and added trans cooler. No more issues.
Great friends, great beautiful places to go play with friends! I prefer a manual transmission. But I've owned both and do own both today. The only time I owned an automatic in a 4WD was following surgery, I couldn't physically work a clutch for a while. So I had a Toyota Tercel SR5 wagon with push-button AWD. Actually needed it too in mountains and snow!
A well put together auto trans can be incredible, and honestly enhances an already capable vehicle with a capable driver. With that said, nothing more fun than tackling a difficult trail and getting to shift.
what a rad day that had to be! Amazing weather and slushy spring snow and lots of it. the 360 stick camera is so awesome. All I got is a manual and it works for me! Not a rock crawler but sure enjoy off-roading and trail riding. The Morrflate system is genius. Total game changer for me. Still using my old compressor. Eventually I'll get a 10/6 too.
That was an awesome looking day! I can't wait to come back down again! I've had to put my next round of upgrades at TVO on hold due to personal issues. I was SO HAPPY to see Potato in the vehicle with Jeremy!! What a great pup!
Great video! Thanks for taking us along for the ride, we know it's a lot of work filming your adventure instead of just enjoying the day freely but you are letting a lot of us live vicariously through your lens. As far as manual v automatic, it's just preference. I'll take a manual all day every day no matter what I'm driving but the automatic does make some of the slower strategic driving a little easier when it comes to the footwork and wear and tear on the clutch material. Still, stick is better! There! I said it! ha ha ha
I joined a Jeep Club a couple of years ago- I bought a 2008 JKU (used) 6 speed manual - I just couldn't drive it off road! I traded it in for a 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser - automatic - I love it! It only has 35s on it! It is hard to shift gears when you are off roading! I kept stalling out!
II think an automatic is better off road IF it has full manual control of what gear you want. No automatic upshifts or downshifts which often cause loss of traction.
I don't own an Off Road Vehicle, I was always told and what I can tell. Automatic is the way to go. it's that little bit of hesitation from taking foot off break and gas and clutch can be an issue. I drive a manual and If I were to get a off road I think I would go auto.
Fun was had by all! I enjoy your videos so much. The terrain in Matt's part of the country (Utah) is incredible, and I love the rock crawling but you're in beautiful Oregon and I love the log crawling. I live in Junction City, Oregon. Thanks for sharing your terrain with us.
That camera is pretty sick! Loved the culvert shot. The "drone" view against the bright snow looked like your Jeep was just shopped into a snow scene. Great video!
I have the same Moreflate 10-6 and 4 tire system and absolutely love it! I used to use a Viar 450 one tire at at time with 37's was like 25 mins to fill all 4.
I think the driver is more important than which transmission a vehicle has. If a driver isn't experienced nether manual nor automatic will matter. 😉 These guys look like they had a great time. Thanks for taking us along Stay safe and GOD bless
That looked like SUCH FUN! All y'all and all y'all's dogs. Who had more fun? The people or the dogs? I bet the dogs would say they did. I was driving a Saturn LW200 with a manual transmission through the December 26, 2010 baaad snowstorm in the northeast (rt 84, 87, 287) and I'll swear that manual transmission saved our butts; kept us from ending up in the ditch as so many other cars did. It was scary. I left space between us and the car ahead so I could maneuver if I needed to, stop at my own pace if I need to, BUT a lot of drivers pulled their cars into my "safe space". I didn't get mad, a little annoyed, maybe, just allowed the space to open up between us again. I watched them fishtail, one fishtailed right into a 180 that left him in the other lane. I tiptoed around him and kept going. My knees are not so good these days, so our current ride has an automatic transmission. It is nice.
I have been 4wd'ing in Australia for more than 30 years - not a lot of snow and no experience like you guys enjoy in Moab. I have always driven Landcruisers and for many years preferred manuals. However I now have a 200 series Landcruiser automatic and enjoy the auto. However I still put it into manual mode when in the high country of Oz and in sand. I must admit that I prefer relying on old school skills than the modern dial up different traction settings. I also use a rear wheel diff locker when pushing up very steep slopes
my experience/opinion is: the benefit of automatic is it can up or down shift under power. good for turbos or climbing sand dunes where a manual upshift will cause momentum loss. manuals are good for precise control like rock crawling or towing and are more fun to drive.
That's where I'd be if I didn't mess up the Jeep! The snow is always drifty right there at the end of the season haha. Thanks again for pulling the zj home for me. I got all of the water out of the cylinders, but I stripped out the starter in the process. Crossing my fingers I can get it running again with a new starter! The engine is spinning freely, so that's rad
Trips just like this is what I had in mind when I moved to central Oregon years ago! Awesome times with good friends, great video man! Hoping this year I'll get my wheelers and the track truck ready for fun and adventure, until then I'll have to live vicariously through your adventures 😂 so thanks for scratching that itch for me lol
I operate a manual transmissions and have only once got into trouble, My mate runs an auto and his had the same amount of trouble over 32 years of offroad operations. So my thoughts is : Each to Each Owns Choice, But I do have to admit auto transmissions have come a long way from their earlier times over the years...
Manual/analog every thing! . Are gerrett 15 skidder has the same engine as a ford 9, 8 or 2N tractor. But with 13.6-28 r1 tires, it just keeps going. Plus it has a kick butt winch and full on push blade, lol.
I have seen it in action. But this is not my first time. But you are correct sir! A few months back you said Off-Roaders usually drive with friends and their friends get them out of trouble. It does boggle my mind at times when people go off-roading but they try it in a solo effort. I would say that is not wise. People in Bend Oregon area do have an out: Casey Ladelle!
In the snow, to get that rocking action going, and speed forward before you go too far back like in 9:30 , you need a clutch. No question. But i prefer auto :)
Looks like you all had a bunch of fun.. I cannot comment on Manual vs Auto in the off road scenario you all were in. My knowledge is in 18 wheelers, there I have 43 yrs of experience, although auto tranny's only came into being on big trucks where they were any good about 20 yrs ago. My experience I purchased an autoshift in a 2007 freightliner and it was my biggest expense, mostly due to all the old electrical wiring going to it and corroded connectors, cost me 3 transmission ECM's and 2 TCM's, however, detroit has come out with an auto transmission matched perfectly with their new DD-13/15/16 motors and you can get better fuel mileage and less work for the driver. But it is also fun sometimes having to shift gears
100%… anyone who says an auto is better off road has either never driven an manual off road, or sucks at driving manual in general… I love my manual Xterra Pro-4X on the trails. If I’m in front, I can keep it in 2nd gear low and left off the brake and gas and just let it do it’s thing. Rarely shifting or tapping the brake. It’s fully armored and is still very comfortable on the Highway with 33” tires and a 2” lift.
Pulling serious loads with my Tacoma, I am happy with my 5 spd manual. My Excursion has no option, so I live with an automatic and run a good transmission cooler to prevent damage.
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It's fine. It's fine. Everything's fine.
Casey! Those shots of the culvert are PERFECT !!!
Transmissions: Manual is old-school 4x4 religion, but autoshifters have come a LONG way from the old three speed slushboxes. Autos are generally easier for less experienced drivers and are often preferred for heavy rockcrawlers because you don’t have to fuss with the three-pedal heel-toe tango.
Really: it doesn’t matter: run what you brung and bring what you got; have fun, stay on the trails, keep your fingers inside the rollbar, pack it in: pack it out, even if it’s not your mess.
🙏💪♥️
You don't need three pedals if you have a hand throttle, like my car does.
Also, heel - toe and handbrakes can be used.
I've driven new automatics that are honestly worse then some old autos with half the gears.
They have their place, but heavy duty off road driving isn't one of them.
It's not the automatic clutch and shifting, it's the lack of direct connection to the engine.
Pretty much agree! Atomatics are easier, but also easier to overheat! I have seen a couple of people ruin their trannys by overheating them
Of course, I have also seen people burn their clutches up too!
Me, I am old school! Although my cherokee is an automatic, my two jeeps are manuals, as is my 4x4 pickup.
I just enjoy driving manuals.
Obviously both types have their place, but it's much easier to learn off-road driving in an automatic unless you are already very proficient with a manual - and know how to properly use the clutch without burning it. I grew up with manuals, and love them for their extremely rugged nature and ability to help out even when the engine is not running. But, I also enjoy my built ZJ with an automatic that is more relaxing - and my wife isn't intimidated by it.
@@michaeldye4318 I'd actually disagree. The direct connection let's you "feel" wheel spin as well as use engine braking down hills.
Nobody should be learning to drive off road unless they are already proficient with driving on road.
If you can't drive a manual on road, you shouldn't be learning a manual AND off road driving at the same time.
@michaeldye4318
I agree that learning how to off road and simultaneously trying to learn how to operate a clutch would be rather difficult to say the least!
I grew up with various vehicles with manual transmission. Trying to teach an adult how to drive a stick shift when all they have ever driven before is a automatic, is a lesson in frustration for both!
Still, I wouldn't trade my manual tranny jeeps or pickups up for anything.
Love the rebutting of the new snatch ring. Way to go boy
Now that is a beautiful job! Completely changed that corner of the neighborhood!
Watching this video reminded me of fun times I had off-roading with my brothers when we were younger. Don't give it up. Keep adventuring!
Well you found what you were looking for and had some fun too! That was a cool shot of under the snow!
Now that looks like the best time to go out and play in the snow!
I’m 3 minutes into the video and already thinking about the men a generation older with their antique cars! 😂
It dose not matter if it's auto or manual as long as you are comfortable and out enjoying it and having fun
and thats a fact
Ask your knees that question in 10yrs with manual.
I've been driving manuals WAY longer than 10 years, likely with more gears then you've ever driven, with a clutch so heavy that a child could stand on it without it moving.
My knees are fine.
@@35manning some people just don’t have a clue all I drive is manual transmission I learned on a 3 on the tree
@@jasondenson3356 I bet half the people here won't have a clue what a three on the tree is, I've driven four on the tree, along with Spicer and Road Rangers, I actually prefer Spicers over Road Rangers.
Nice scenery for a trail ride, it's warm and dry in Tennessee.
I live in western Massachusetts. I've been wheeling from the age of 16. I'm 64 now. I've always ran a standard tranny. Until a little over 3 years ago I was looking for another 4x4 and my brother in law found me an 04 tj in really nice shape with an automatic. Wasn't thrilled about that part. Less than 2 months after buying the jeep I lost my right leg due to an aneurism. I'm liking the automatic now lol. It's all what you're comfortable with.
Front lockers would be nice so you really have 4 wheel drive. Looks like a fun outing. Your setup for airing backup is awesome.
Lockers suck in the snow
@@TK-cl1jm lockers are great for getting unstuck what are you talking about?
@Z B Depends on the situation, certainly, but as soon as you have to turn with lockers are engaged, you break any traction you had. Soft snow and power, sure, lock 'em up.
Trying to navigate a tight twisty uphill? Not so handy.
I had a jeep with ARB locker up front for years in CO, UT, and VT. I only know what my experience has been.
Looks like you all had a great time. Thanks for taking us along for the adventure. The scenery was gorgeous. Glad you didn't get hurt when you fell through and that was a cool shot with the 360 afterwards.
Looks like it was a blast!!
In reference to the model T episode, yes that was way cool. I never would thought that it would happen but you found it and shared it.
Oh how I miss my 4x4 ! Haven't had it since, . . . ummm, . . . . it's just been faaaaaaar too long. Thanks for taking me on a Freaking Fantabulous ride right form the seat in my living room!
Yes that is nice to see you drive so good on snow!
Good times! That looked like it was a hell of a lot of FUN!! 👍👍 Personally I prefer an automatic over a standard shift. I hope that Grumpy is doing good , we miss you a lot Grumpy! Thanks for taking us along Casey!👀
He’s back in Saturday’s video!
@@CaseyLaDelle Awesome! 👍 I am looking forward to that. Thank you Casey!
When I was an equestrian, having trail dogs along was part of the deal. Never thought I’d see dogs running alongside vehicles. Great fun!!
Nice to see you or having fun relaxing not working
Now. ?????? Once I get my smell out of garage and back on the road. Will you go wheeling again???
Noo you forgot the model T with front skis and double rear axles with tracks like they used up north in New England especially in New Hampshire. Factory option from Ford as kit
The 360 degree camera is awesome. You can see the shadow, but you can't see the camera or stick.
Awesome day playing in the snow definitely a good video “ It’s Fine” the same quote I use all the time.
I learned to drive with a manual, and drove manual Jeeps for over 20 years, but will never ever go back. The 8 speed auto is one of the best things about my Jeep Gladiator!
It really only depends on the nut behind the wheel.
Funny story: we camp at a beautiful Kauai beach called Polihale. It’s isolated off an unimproved pretty sketchy 5 mile road. Gorgeous sunsets. Entertainment is watching tourists bring rental jeeps out onto the sand. One particular couple was stuck to the top of tires. They looked clueless. It was getting close to sunset. So we went running with shovels. After trading off shoveling out the tires, we told them to air down. Each of us took a tire. We strapped them up to yank em out and found one tire almost off the rim. The girl had let all the air out. All of it. She didn’t know. Anyway, we found out it was their first date. (Some first date, flying to Kauai) We figured it was their last as the guy was not impressed as we fixed that tire in pitch dark. 🏝️
I’ve gotten so many people unstuck from that very beach.
Watched one rental Jeep back in the early 2000s get eaten by the high tide.
Hilarious.
Lived in Kauai for years n years.
Miss it sometimes.
My first trip there I took a minivan... You just need to know what you're doing.
It's a bummer that the only Jeep on Turo in Kauai with a winch is $170 a day. There are two on the big island with winches that are much more reasonable.
@@matthewbeasley7765 yea they don’t want the rental cars out there because that road gets so bad. But it’s a magical place. You also can’t get towed from out there. So pulling out rentals is the norm for us. Just don’t want to see people’s dream vacation ruined ya know?
@@b.s.adventures9421 awww awesome. Ya know it was closed for years because the road washed completely out. Not just 4 foot pot holes every 2 feet. Completely wrecked. Anyway, it’s my fav place on earth and I’ve been to some awesome places. I’ve been here over 20 yrs and don’t want to live anywhere else but ya never know what life is gonna bring. 🌺
Seems like there's good people there too. Be safe and live in the moment...
I’m super jealous Casey that’s my favorite snow run ever we call it the pucker run because of the angle of the snow. I have crossed Tumalo creek where you guys turned around with twice the size of snow walls.
Im supprised your not into snowmobiling, I watched you help recover those 2 sleds but for the most part we dont need to dig out very depending on the snow conditions. We absolutely love taking our families & in larger groups. Our children have found a whole new respect for all we did for them when they were small. My Daughter gave me a huge Hug telling me how she never realized how much harder it is ridding with a child in front of you! Ahhhh that made my whole weekend 😅 knowing all the miles we logged together from a year old till she was in her teens & able to keep up. I use to strap her to me like a big seatbelt so that she could never hit the bars & for years I could stand up & jump around with ease. Taught my wife to water ski with my arms under hers & my skis outdside... like training wheels... I would lift her up & when she got her balance & would let go of the rope. Where there is a will & everyone was enjoying themselves, we figured out ways for the whole family to be envolved. You should do some overviews again of each rig, how its setup & why, weight & primary usage. Love the family & friends outings! Those who play together stay together.
Wow. You must have had a lot of snow this past winter. I can’t believe you still have some. Have fun. 😊
Wow, fantastic scenery. What a fabulous day out. Well, you definitely found snow. Great video. Thanks for sharing. 👍
I believe the height difference between 6’4” and 5’9” is 7” not 5” (like it really makes any difference, right!).
Always amazed at the shots from the camera stick. If it weren’t for the infrequent shadow one would believe it was a drone.
For us its 5😉. Ad 1 to form 6 +4=5.
Leave it to you if its mm, cm, meters or km.
(Mili, centi or kilo) last always meters.
The kids are more excited to watch you than cartoons!!!! You are awesome!! Thanks for all the great videos!
The best part of exploring as a group is having your buddies there to get you out when you find out just how far you can go.
The intro was great, thought it was a piece of logging machinery lol
on my 5th Jeep. From 1984 to 2013. All 2D's. Wheeled both thru the years. Now I'm old. Knees hurt. Auto all day long for me. If you do heavy wheeling make sure you have a trans cooler. I boiled auto my over one day. After a rebuild and added trans cooler. No more issues.
Good to see you are out having fun 🎉🎉 😂😂
Great friends, great beautiful places to go play with friends!
I prefer a manual transmission. But I've owned both and do own both today. The only time I owned an automatic in a 4WD was following surgery, I couldn't physically work a clutch for a while. So I had a Toyota Tercel SR5 wagon with push-button AWD. Actually needed it too in mountains and snow!
The view from under the snow was SUPER COOL! And that whole video looked like a lot of fun to make.
Good friends, summer snow and shenanigans 😂🎉🎉🎉 Love it! Stay safe!❤️🙏
Good seeing the TJ back in action!
It’s fine, Everything is fine. Looks like a fun ride .
Looked like a great day of fun! Thanks for all the great content!
A well put together auto trans can be incredible, and honestly enhances an already capable vehicle with a capable driver. With that said, nothing more fun than tackling a difficult trail and getting to shift.
Trac Jeep would have had a blast up there ! ! ! ! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
what a rad day that had to be! Amazing weather and slushy spring snow and lots of it. the 360 stick camera is so awesome. All I got is a manual and it works for me! Not a rock crawler but sure enjoy off-roading and trail riding. The Morrflate system is genius. Total game changer for me. Still using my old compressor. Eventually I'll get a 10/6 too.
That was an awesome looking day! I can't wait to come back down again! I've had to put my next round of upgrades at TVO on hold due to personal issues. I was SO HAPPY to see Potato in the vehicle with Jeremy!! What a great pup!
Great video! Thanks for taking us along for the ride, we know it's a lot of work filming your adventure instead of just enjoying the day freely but you are letting a lot of us live vicariously through your lens. As far as manual v automatic, it's just preference. I'll take a manual all day every day no matter what I'm driving but the automatic does make some of the slower strategic driving a little easier when it comes to the footwork and wear and tear on the clutch material. Still, stick is better! There! I said it! ha ha ha
Yes, I prefer manual as well. I once drove a truck with a five gear main and a thirteen speed auxiliary. That was fun. Fifty two gears to choose from.
I joined a Jeep Club a couple of years ago- I bought a 2008 JKU (used) 6 speed manual - I just couldn't drive it off road! I traded it in for a 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser - automatic - I love it! It only has 35s on it! It is hard to shift gears when you are off roading! I kept stalling out!
II think an automatic is better off road IF it has full manual control of what gear you want. No automatic upshifts or downshifts which often cause loss of traction.
Love the good hearted kidding Casey. This is why I love your videos!
If you get a flathead, bring along extra water pumps and a carb. Used to know a guy who always carried some with him in a box.
I love this - you had so much FUN! Thanks for bringing us along. ❤
that was a fun trip. I agree the old cars in the mud was absolutely amazing. that rescue will be hard to top. those old guys were fun.
I love my 85 K20 with a 6.2 diesel 4 speed stick with Granny gear and a 12,000 lb Warren winch on 35 that's my setup and it works great.
That was fun! I'm glad you guys could enjoy that. Thanks for the video.
I don't own an Off Road Vehicle, I was always told and what I can tell. Automatic is the way to go. it's that little bit of hesitation from taking foot off break and gas and clutch can be an issue. I drive a manual and If I were to get a off road I think I would go auto.
Fun was had by all! I enjoy your videos so much. The terrain in Matt's part of the country (Utah) is incredible, and I love the rock crawling but you're in beautiful Oregon and I love the log crawling. I live in Junction City, Oregon. Thanks for sharing your terrain with us.
My primary drive is a 5-speed (NV4500) but off road I'd prefer an auto.
That camera is pretty sick! Loved the culvert shot. The "drone" view against the bright snow looked like your Jeep was just shopped into a snow scene. Great video!
Nice to see you having fun
MANUAL!!
That was an awesome camera angle down under the snow. Nice wheelin
Something about grabin gears in mud/snow/sand never gets old.
I have the same Moreflate 10-6 and 4 tire system and absolutely love it! I used to use a Viar 450 one tire at at time with 37's was like 25 mins to fill all 4.
I think the driver is more important than which transmission a vehicle has. If a driver isn't experienced nether manual nor automatic will matter. 😉 These guys look like they had a great time. Thanks for taking us along
Stay safe and GOD bless
Definitely my idea of a good time. Bonus part of 4WDing in the snow is every trail and rut you leave behind just melts away.
Excited for this one!!!
Awesome adventure, glad you brought us along.
That looked like SUCH FUN! All y'all and all y'all's dogs. Who had more fun? The people or the dogs? I bet the dogs would say they did.
I was driving a Saturn LW200 with a manual transmission through the December 26, 2010 baaad snowstorm in the northeast (rt 84, 87, 287) and I'll swear that manual transmission saved our butts; kept us from ending up in the ditch as so many other cars did. It was scary. I left space between us and the car ahead so I could maneuver if I needed to, stop at my own pace if I need to, BUT a lot of drivers pulled their cars into my "safe space". I didn't get mad, a little annoyed, maybe, just allowed the space to open up between us again. I watched them fishtail, one fishtailed right into a 180 that left him in the other lane. I tiptoed around him and kept going.
My knees are not so good these days, so our current ride has an automatic transmission. It is nice.
for that type of sticky snow manual with a Tcase doubler or something. you can usually crawl across the top while compressing the snow.
5/6-speed manual with 4.5 1st gear. Drove with SM-465 for 18 years
I have been 4wd'ing in Australia for more than 30 years - not a lot of snow and no experience like you guys enjoy in Moab. I have always driven Landcruisers and for many years preferred manuals. However I now have a 200 series Landcruiser automatic and enjoy the auto. However I still put it into manual mode when in the high country of Oz and in sand. I must admit that I prefer relying on old school skills than the modern dial up different traction settings. I also use a rear wheel diff locker when pushing up very steep slopes
my experience/opinion is:
the benefit of automatic is it can up or down shift under power. good for turbos or climbing sand dunes where a manual upshift will cause momentum loss. manuals are good for precise control like rock crawling or towing and are more fun to drive.
I’ve had both and for me I like automatic for rock crawling in precarious situation’s, but for mud, snow and daily driving I love manual.
That's where I'd be if I didn't mess up the Jeep! The snow is always drifty right there at the end of the season haha.
Thanks again for pulling the zj home for me. I got all of the water out of the cylinders, but I stripped out the starter in the process. Crossing my fingers I can get it running again with a new starter! The engine is spinning freely, so that's rad
It's crazy how much snow there is up there this year!
Fun video! I prefer a manual for my own use, mostly just for the driving experience, but I do feel that in many situations an automatic is better.
Trips just like this is what I had in mind when I moved to central Oregon years ago! Awesome times with good friends, great video man! Hoping this year I'll get my wheelers and the track truck ready for fun and adventure, until then I'll have to live vicariously through your adventures 😂 so thanks for scratching that itch for me lol
I operate a manual transmissions and have only once got into trouble, My mate runs an auto and his had the same amount of trouble over 32 years of offroad operations. So my thoughts is : Each to Each Owns Choice, But I do have to admit auto transmissions have come a long way from their earlier times over the years...
nice audio work @4:30, thank you!
Fun outing with the Guys! 🤙😎
Manual/analog every thing!
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Are gerrett 15 skidder has the same engine as a ford 9, 8 or 2N tractor.
But with 13.6-28 r1 tires, it just keeps going.
Plus it has a kick butt winch and full on push blade, lol.
6’4”-5’9” is 7” difference. Fun video as always. And, I prefer automatic for off-roading.
So cool! Thanks for sharing...
Looks like fun
WAYNE did it!!!!! YAY! First1!!!
I have seen it in action. But this is not my first time. But you are correct sir! A few months back you said Off-Roaders usually drive with friends and their friends get them out of trouble. It does boggle my mind at times when people go off-roading but they try it in a solo effort. I would say that is not wise. People in Bend Oregon area do have an out: Casey Ladelle!
All I have to say is yes. Each works well for the person using them.
That sugar snow is terrible. The only thing that works decently well is flotation. Thus tracks or huge tires.
In the snow, to get that rocking action going, and speed forward before you go too far back like in 9:30 , you need a clutch. No question. But i prefer auto :)
Good stuff!
I went up last week toward paulina peak off 31 and that wet snow is thick! Gotta run that low pressure to float!
My truck is a manual and when I head to woods I like driving it.
Thanks for the video
What is really cool abut your camera is also a little weird. It doesn't show the rod holding it, but it does still show the shadow of the rod. Cool!!
Looks like you all had a bunch of fun.. I cannot comment on Manual vs Auto in the off road scenario you all were in. My knowledge is in 18 wheelers, there I have 43 yrs of experience, although auto tranny's only came into being on big trucks where they were any good about 20 yrs ago. My experience I purchased an autoshift in a 2007 freightliner and it was my biggest expense, mostly due to all the old electrical wiring going to it and corroded connectors, cost me 3 transmission ECM's and 2 TCM's, however, detroit has come out with an auto transmission matched perfectly with their new DD-13/15/16 motors and you can get better fuel mileage and less work for the driver. But it is also fun sometimes having to shift gears
100%… anyone who says an auto is better off road has either never driven an manual off road, or sucks at driving manual in general… I love my manual Xterra Pro-4X on the trails. If I’m in front, I can keep it in 2nd gear low and left off the brake and gas and just let it do it’s thing. Rarely shifting or tapping the brake. It’s fully armored and is still very comfortable on the Highway with 33” tires and a 2” lift.
Another one of your, "the best videos I've seen". That looked like so much fun. Wish I was there with you.
Pulling serious loads with my Tacoma, I am happy with my 5 spd manual. My Excursion has no option, so I live with an automatic and run a good transmission cooler to prevent damage.
BTW in the artic oilfields during winter you do not air down and we never did in Northern Michigan either.
Well this doesn’t look like an Arctic oilfield or northern Michigan so I don’t get what your point is…
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I think the river got hungry and ate the road...
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