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Dan Robinson the cast stone 7:52 should have applied the brakes very lightly in-between the corrections while the car hand a few moments of going in a straight line... But he never decreased speed at all ! so ended in the wall.
"with higher speeds the more likely you are to loose control due to ice" This isn't technically correct, speed alone does not cause wrecks in any circumstance. However when you are going faster, the time that is required to react to sudden changes in road conditions reduces. This is what causes most wrecks that involve speeding and ice. Slower is often better when conditions can change drastically without warning.
I think there is a reaction time factor, but the bigger difficulty is that the faster you're going, the harder it is to control your car. Most people don't understand the physics of it, so it's challenging, especially because the difficulty increases exponentially based on your speed..
Great video. I always say the most fun I ever had on the road was driving an Ambulance on snow. Never got above 30-40mph though - crashes are always slower than driving slowly.
I have lived in snowy areas and driven on icy roads all my life, and still found this video helpful. When you slow down on icy roads people tend to start honking at you. Let them honk. Never drive faster than you feel safe.
Robert Lataoan it depends. If you drive a modern car with abs and traction control, which is actually more dangerous. Then yeah. Since you can't spin, and lock the tires as you please, you'll end up snap oversteering since you can't send enough power to the rear wheels... (Oh wait most cars are fwd anyway) but if you drive an ae86 (back when the Toyota Corolla was an actual car) then you can pull off drifts ez and do whatever.
Tips for driving in icy conditions: Slow down. No, slow down more. No, even more slowly... Don't let the people around you dictate at what speed your driving.
Don't be cocky. That's the number one thing I've seen with bad drivers or just anybody who thinks they can do something only to end up killing themselves.
We had to practice this in order to get my license. Braking and correcting slides on slippery surfaces. Its very fun to try when it is in controlled circumstances. Another thing in general when driving in icy conditions is to check your grip periodically. Just tap the brakes in a clear area and feel what kind of grip your got. And also kinda knowing what your vehicle is capable of. I actually like playing around in snowy conditions and always spends the first day of snow drifting a little bit when the roads are empty and unsalted. I helps build habits to get that instinctive reaction to correcting slides. Because the quicker you can correct a slide, the higher your chances of succes become, and not overcorrecting to much is also important and is something you have to get muscle memory to do well at.
Check grips periodically is exactly what I do each time before I drive out of my cul-de-sec and on the road which my wife can't understand and does not agree.
"We had to practice this in order to get my license" I wish it could be the same in more countries...Danish Licence ? Sveden ? Here in France, i had the luck to make some "car handling" training in a dedicated center ; wet glassy surfaced corners and others funny things ^^ Very helpful (to say the least) when i later had to face emergency situations !
Interesting to learn that was on your driving test! Being from the southern US, we definitely don’t get enough snow or ice for it to be required but I wonder if it is for any northern states. The information is invaluable regardless and that lack of requires education (and testing) is exactly what brings me here to this video. Solid advice about periodically checking your grip as well. Should you also do the same in wet & stormy conditions?
@@Kinkese Agreed peoples most common reaction from the guilty conscious of driving too fast for conditions is to let the foot off the gas. Even if they do not apply the brakes this will cause them to spin out of control. I loathe front wheel drive cars.
I find this very fascinating. Living in Australia, I haven't even touched snow and never been on an icy road. All you drivers have my deepest respect. Stay safe. Susan
It's not really difficult. The biggest thing is just to slow way down. If the speed limit says 60 and everyone's doing 60, you're way below what the car's capable of. In the ice, the equivalent speed limit might be 10-20 mph (if it was actually posted), but people tend to do 30-40 mph and it causes issues. It's especially bad because a lot of people drive on summer or all-season tires then try to keep up with people on proper snow tires. I've driven mid-engine, rear-wheel drive vehicles with summer tires through the ice and it's still not difficult. You just have to slow down even more. The biggest danger there is if you're doing 15 mph when everyone else is doing 45 mph. Or if you try to go down a 10% grade with no grip.
The scariest driving I’ve ever experienced was the first blizzard of the year in Denver last year. People were going anywhere between 15 and 70 mph on the highway in the dark of night and snow covering all of the lane markers. Thank you for educating those who never needed to know this information until now. No judgement. Just drive safe!
Here in Sweden I bought my first car in November last year. It was a sunny day, no snow that winter yet. On my way back home, all of a sudden a blizzard begins. It was one of the snowiest days ive ever witnessed, and it went from 0 to 100 real quick. The worst part is the car was still on summer tires. Had to drive home in first/second gear in anything between 5 to max 20mph on a 70 mph highway. And even at such low speeds, the car wanted to slide every now and then + braking distance noticably increased. Saw one person switching tires on the side of the road at one point.
Denver traffic is insane. I used to have a friend who lived down that way and I hated driving through the city on the highway. Even at 11 PM on a weekday (when I'd choose to arrive in order to avoid traffic) there were still cars in all lanes and some people weaving in and out through the traffic because they were that impatient.
I just spun out in north Denver this AM and there was barely any snow - very deceiving! Luckily I didn’t hit anyone or anything cause it was early AM but still very scary
My parents got mad at me when they found out, but on the first snow day after I had gotten my drivers license a few friends and I went to a large wide open parking lot to learn how to drive on ice and snow. We taught ourselves how to straighten out from fishtails and spinouts. Years later I was travelling about 85 mph on 270 and came upon a patch of standing water that caused my car to hydroplane. I spun like a top for four full revolutions but was able to regain control and not wreck because I did nothing at first, no brake, no steer. I waited until I could feel the momentum was low enough to allow correcting. Any attempt to correct the first few revolutions would have most likely changed my overall direction of momentum and sent me into a jersey barrier on one side of the other. I knew that the first thing was to keep my momentum in the original direction of travel where there were no barriers or obstructions.
@sly dankass sure but please stop using your cellphone while driving. It’s not just yourself you’re making the road unsafe for. It’s everyone else around you. Using you phone while driving is worse than, driving tired or drinking.
im honestly AMAZED at how these things arent taught in driving school. like every driver should know this not just for their own safety but for the safety of others. you never think itll happen to you until it does. and it WILL. happened to me in the rain but thank the lord no cars tboned me while i was gliding and thank god there was just grass on the shoulder
it is thought on how to drive in the winter. ETc - winter tires, chains (or however it is called on EN), but if u take your exam during summer there won't be any ice for u to practice
This is so useful for people who never encountered icy roads (me). But will be traveling to places that might have it. Never a bad idea to be prepared.
I've always heard "turn into the slide" before and thought it was counter-intuitive. I thought it meant if you're sliding to the left, turn left, so I intended to go against my instincts if this happened to me. Watching this video I can see it's referring to the direction of the BACK of the vehicle, not the front, which means my instincts were correct and I would've been in trouble in a slide. So thanks, this video was a big help! And people who are explaining this to others really need to specify BACK of the vehicle when describing the movement!
I have always remembered it as keep the fronts wheels pointing at where the car is going/sliding. If you can keep the front wheels from loosing grip (e.g. flip it into neutral) with the road you can control the slide and let the car lose enough speed to regain rear traction.
The worse thing is that most people just know the phrase and don't know what it actually means. Also, presumably this phrase came from the fact that the back of your car is likely to slide to the right when making a left, and vice-versa, so it really means to turn the wheel the opposite to what you were just doing, but don't over correct or hit the brakes either when doing it. I agree with you that if the back of my car was sliding to the right, intuition would be to turn the wheel right, but people would likely panic and either do nothing or hit the brakes which is probably why turning into the slide became a common phrase after each accident.
Absolutely. I think it's very easy to misunderstand the phrase turning into the slide. Exactly what you said it's turn in the direction the back of your vehicle is going. Good clarification.
Every single thing this guy says is 100 percent accurate. This is an amazing teaching video. I drive an 18 wheeler and have personally tried all techniques in this video over the past 5 years of driving the country and they all worked for me and have kept me from wrecking out many times. Literally, do not panic. Steer into it. It'll straighten itself back out.
Sadly this is not true, many people will not have the feel to do this, much rather use the ABS and traction control of your car. They are there for a reason.
I had a high horsepower rear wheel drive mustang where the back end would kick to one side or the other if you accelerated too hard in too low of a gear, even on dry pavement. I learned really fast that most of the time when you feel the back end begin to slip, simply taking your foot off the gas can be enough to correct before total loss of traction. Whereas once you hit the brakes you've lost any remaining traction and ability to steer or control speed. Same with steering. Sometimes if you just let the steering wheel and wheels find their own path, they'll correct for you. I always loosen my grip and give the wheels a chance to pull in the direction they want to go before attempting to steer myself out of a spin.
@sly dankass I disagree. I drive an AWD manual and the engine will brake harder than I would with the clutch and slightly touching the brake pedal. However I've never slid out in my car I keep good tires on it and drive for the conditions. I did slide in my sister's Ford AWD but she had 70K miles on those tires (the ones that came with the car) but the traction control saved me I think. It was all less than 2 seconds.
@@010falcon locking up the brakes is only one way things can go wrong in slick conditions. Wheels don't have to lock in order to lose traction. Simple pressure differences between wheels can break traction. Tapping anti lock breaks in a turn can break traction.
I live in a tropical country. We don't have icy roads but have lots of muddy slippery roads when it rains. I've found that the same driving techniques apply when correcting slides on muddy roads. Thks!
I used to go to empty ice lots with my buddies all the time and have drifting sessions. Made me incredibly good with ice. And my baby sister just got her license, im taking her with us for her first winter. She’ll need it haha
I’ve been fine with all weather tires as well. My current car I have (2001 Dodge Durango) is far better for the winter than my previous two cars and this is my first 4WD car. I always slow down extra anyway but since I have 4WD, I know I’m a bit safer. However, if I begin to slide I let off the gas and not brake so that I can correct it easier.
Wait even with winter tires they slide right? (I'm not being sarcastic I genuinely want to know) I have a car but I'm a new driver and this is my first winter. I did install winter tires but still didn't want to drive unless I know how to handle the car.
This is such an important subject! I first got my license at the beginning of a Canadian north winter. Our dad drilled into us what to do and to my delight, when my first skid hit on a busy bridge I just automatically turned the wheels into it, even though that seemed like I was turning toward the opposite traffic. My skid stopped almost instantly and I headed on. Heart beating hard I realized how important it had been to mentally practice the move ahead of time. I wouldn't have had the time to think it out at that moment.
Hi hello, tnk u for sharing ur experience....i really wanted to apply ur technique here in manitoba but manybof the driver here dont dont want to reduce their speed lower than 100km per hour...but for me i want to make my speed only on 50 to 80km for my safety but many canadians advice to always follow the 100km. I hope that other canadians will also consider others to avoid slide. Can u give me some advice? Tnk u
@@darwincaguia6230 hello fellow Manitoba👋 drive in the city when you can, and avoid single lane highways when possible. 80 is pretty safe for *most drivers/vehicles on the hwy and I don't recommend doing 50kmh almost ever on the highway. If you're having to go that slow on the highway probably better to stay home. You can account for other drivers by driving more defensively and that's about it. Let people by you that want to and give yourself extra time :)
Watching this vid I just realized I was never taught any of this, but I still knew what to do when I started driving and was caught in my first slide. I think I must know how to from learning how to drift in car racing games when I was a kid, and then learning how to drift snowmobiles around corners on the trails. It's the same physics for all 3 situations. I honestly wish this was taught in driving schools, maybe with the use of a simulator for safety. There should also be a winter driving portion of the driver's test, it's ridiculous that there isn't considering most of us living in Canada have anywhere from 3-7 months of snow on the ground in a given year.
@@darwincaguia6230 I've definitely been in situations where I've had to go 50km or even lower on highways, but it's usually due to extreme whiteout conditions or heavy fog. And in those situations, everyone is going 50km, usually with their flashers on. I would say if you find yourself frequently going a lot slower than the flow of traffic that maybe you just need a bit more confidence with winter driving, and unfortunately that confidence usually doesn't come unless you get lots of practice. I would say definitely get some good quality snow/ice tires if you haven't already, and if possible drive a vehicle that has extra features for bad weather (4WD/AWD, traction control for wet/snowy conditions). Going to an empty parking lot to practice after a fresh snow is very important to get the 'feel' of what to do when your vehicle starts sliding, it really helps if your body instinctually knows what to do as soon as you start sliding. Also remember that you're very unlikely to start sliding if you're driving in a straight line, most of the danger comes from turning, stopping and hills. So just make sure before you encounter those things that you're going slow enough to do them safely. And in the event that you need to drive significantly slower than other drivers, make sure to move to the right lane and put your flashers on. Hope this helps a bit and drive safe! 😊
I lost control of my car on black ice on the high way after coming from church service at night in 2019. I had my son which was four years old at the time. It was one of the scariest experience I had. My car started spinning out of control. I was terrified but by God's grace the car safely hit a snowbank which stopped the car. The car wasn't damaged and we were safe. I remember everything stopped. The cars stopped to witness what was happening. I remember sitting there in silence to relax before eventually driving off. I praise and thank God for delivering us that day.
One thing that’s import to mention is the timing of correction in addition to being careful not to overcorrect. As soon as you feel the rear slipping out, you need to react and react proportionly. Being prepared for the oscillation is key and it's important to start turning the wheel back BEFORE the next oscillation. If you wait until the car snaps back in the other direction to start steering, it might be too late.
When my Dad said "Steer into the skid" and tried to explain it after my crash on a wet road, I didn't understand it at all. But with the pictures, advice, and examples, I know what it means now. Thanks for this.
“Steer into the skid” confuses everyone, what direction am I skidding?, how hard do I turn the steering wheel?. I found “STOP what you’re doing with your FEET” (take your foot off the gas or brake) and “LOOK to where you want to go STEER towards it” This stops the skid and avoids over-correction. Anticipating slippery conditions then adjusting your speed and following distance is necessary but too many don’t and cause multi-vehicle collisions.
Yes, this was a helpful video. As my parents put it 40 years ago when I was learning to drive, if the car hydroplanes or slides on ice, immediately take your foot off the gas, do not brake, and turn into the slide. Obviously it's unsettling to feel the car start to "float" while driving, but if you keep your cool - and you're not driving too fast - you can manoeuver through it.
I did it 2 days ago, exactly as described in the video. Forced onto the side of the road by a plow on a death curve. Corrected instantly and slowed down. Saved us and our vehicle.
Learning how to drift actually helps, specially in Canada!
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Ice has no friction coefficient unlike asphalt so think again!! Drifting!! That's funny!!! One is breaking friction to slide the other is no friction to stop sliding, yeah they're one in the same!! LOLOLOL!!!!
@ they are the same, they are just caused/initiated differently and have different speed angles. Drifting skills would help when slide happens so driver knows what to do, countersteer.
My advice is to get a QUATTRO with the right winter tires and drive it with the right speed. The satisfaction is fantastic. No joke or hard feelings. Hi to all!
Do you ever leave Florida lol . Northern Fl can get some ice during the winter not often but it happens. An Ty is correct the same driving skills apply to rain and hydroplaning .
What I've experienced living in an area with a lot of rain and snow is this: The most uncertain grip conditions are right around freezing point when the road is wet but some patches of ice can appear, or when the road seems dry but it's cold enough for black ice to be present. Your appropriate speed is the amount of steering angle your car will tolerate before beginning to slide. In corners, find that limit and don't exceed it, your speed varies accordingly; in a straight line, turn from left to right while gradually gaining speed: as soon as that movement becomes uncomfortable, you know you've reached the limits of straight line grip. Roads that are covered in snow are easy to read thanks to the grip levels being roughly consistent. Smooth ice is impossible to drive on unless you have studded tires
They should make the slippery road course mandatory everywhere where it snows as it is in most of Northern Europe, because no matter how much theory you listen, you will probably still panic when the car starts sliding under you for the first time. My father let me drive on frozen lakes already when i was 10 years old, so winter has always been fun drift season for me
"turn into the slide" is the phrase that has caused the most confusion. Most people don't realize that the back of the car is the one sliding. All they see is that they're turning left (fishtailing right) and they think they are supposed to turn left as well.
That's the main reason why I clicked on this video; I never really knew what "turn into the slide" meant. We should change it to "turn in the same direction the tail end is moving."
Or "turn to the direction the tail end is NOT supposed to be moving" in the case of a "understeer" slide. But the direction to turn the wheel to should be instinctively correct, anyway.
Exactly! I have always been confused by 'Turn into the slide', but this has explained it perfectly......watching this video the day I have bought my first RWD car......
Great video. While not braking is important, it's also important to ease off the gas and not lift suddenly. Suddenly lifting off the gas causes a forward weight transfer. Forward weight transfer means more weight (and thus traction) on the front wheels and less on the rear... NOT what you want to happen when you're already in an oversteer situation. Excellent point about coming off ice and onto dry or salted pavement. That sudden change of friction can make it difficult for even an experienced driver to recover from a slide, as the car can react violently when the tires suddenly gain traction mid-correction. Performance driving school is expensive, but go anyway! Practicing slide recovery in a controlled setting could save your life someday.
Of course it did. Figure that the plan for the light pole being in that exact location, where a slide is very likely to happen, was drawn up intentionally with the knowledge that that pole would be hit frequently and need replacing frequently, thus affording a work crew good-paying winter work when there's otherwise nothing going on.
My aunt in England slid ( safely ) on a snowy road, but was too scared after that to drive. My uncle insisted she take a ' skid control ' safe driving course. She did, and it helped her get over her fear of driving after that.
Best description of over- and under-steer I've seen, and best advice on correcting a slide. Superimposing the steering wheel on the video makes "steering into the slide" so much easier to understand. Well done!
I practiced this maneuver on a large empty icy packing lot . This really helped me out when I had to use this maneuver in real-time. Front wheel, four wheel and rear wheel drive vehicles behave totally different at least from my experience. The four wheel drive vehicle's braking distance isn't any better than the two wheel drive cars .
@@MatejaMaric try hitting your brakes on wet road with clutch engaged and disengaged. Is stopping distance the same? AWD helps in same way - helps prevent wheel lock's, but on all wheels. Issue is that effect is about order of magnitude weaker than effect AWD have on acceleration and handling, so you really easy end up driving faster than you should.
When I first got my license many years ago, I was always told to do this because I have winter driving phobia (still do today, as both a driver and passenger), the first time I attempted this, I got pulled over. Tried this maneuver a few winters later, got pulled over again. Lol. Never tried after this. I got pulled over immediately both times, two different empty parking lots. 20+ years later, as a Michigander, I still don't know how to drive in winter weather. I follow all the rules to the T, but never been able to figure it out.
AWD/4WD vehicles, when equipped with a torque limiting differential, can regain traction somewhat faster than FWD/RWD vehicles. But one definitely must not rely on that.
My first snowfall without winter tires was terrifying I was an anxious mess and that was 2 weeks ago. A neighbor had to address me today for ripping around the crescent fast while he was walking up the crescent with his dog late night. He said I was driving like a maniac telling me about the icy conditions. I'm worried about it I want to be a respectable safe driver not some aloof reckless young driver, I need to fix my bad habits and formally apologize to said neighbor I feel really bad for having him worry for his own safety and my wellbeing it had me so upset afterwards. My commute isnt all that I'll have to be better when I commute longer distances we only get so many driving mishaps.
@@andrewmarcus8272 you havant failed,you just ended your darkness,by learning and understanding,people watching this video are at least on the right track
Best (or most useful) tutorial on youtube. This saved me last winter. I was driving on the highway during snow storm (yes I am an idiot for driving during a snow storm) and I zoned out and was driving at about 55 mph. I didnt mean to but it was a long drive and like I said, I zoned out. I started to slide and I was able to correct my slide using the rules of this video and every one was safe with no accident. Thank you for this video.
As a lifelong winter driver of Northern Minnesota and Alaska, I will say this video is a good one to use for training. I've had close calls but *knock on wood* have never been in an accident during the winter months. The key to a slide is never use the brakes. Downshifting one gear is what worked for me as I drive stick shifts.
it's sad that manual transmissions are getting harder to find these days and soon they will all be gone. The biggest reason I drive a manual is because of the extra control you have with them in the snow.
Yeah , you say sense . Even me never got stranded in snow, nor never hit the road curbside because of downshifting gear to L2 , L3 , sometimes to L1 and it works perfectly for me .
Unfortunately CVTs are one speed. And they are putting CVTs in the majority of cars nowadays. Many don't even have a 2nd. gear setting, and most don't have lo. It's like driving my lawnmower. Just push the pedal and go! Going down a steep hill? Tap the brake to slow down.
Somehow every winter this video pops up in my recommendations and I watch it again to refresh. Definitely need to find some safe spot to practice a bit cuz theory without practice just doesn't work. Drive safe folks
Practice, practice, practice. Find a large icy parking lot. I was lucky enough to have an unused airfield. P.S. Be careful with SUVs which can flip quite easily.
@Martin Smith That's how I did it. My father taught me how to avoid and correct a skid then I practiced in a big empty parking lot until I did the right things instinctively.
Yeah, icy parking lots can be a fun way to see how your particular vehicle will act in ice, but it's best if it is one without a lot of curbs or light poles. :) Ice is not fun on motorcycles though... Been there, done that, didn't even get out of the parking lot before it slid out from underneath me... :(
If you have a snus in your lip and drive a volvo (RWD) you instantly gain a buff to your stats that resist crashing and or loss of controll on your vehicle. Additionally you gain the title of Northern Touge King, effects may dissapear after both snow and ice is no longer noticable on roads.
Years of sim racing on ice, snow and water has literally save me and my wife’s life. Before moving to the USA I barely had any real life snow and ice driving experience.
Growing up in a small town in rural northern Ontario, I knew this practically out of the womb but this is a GREAT video for those who aren't used to this kind of thing. Very informative and well put together.
I drive the 401 daily to get to work. it is so scary watching people drive down the high way in the middle of a snow storm. People will fly in excess of 100km/hr in a dodge charger and think themselves invincible. I drive a pick-up, with 4x4 and snow tires and I barely go in excess of 70km/hr. I grew up driving nothing but RWD vehicles with no safety assists from traction control and abs... Its absolutely astonishing how de-sensitized south western ontarians are to snow/ice.
actually, this helps. since i'm a bit of an unpatient driver, i find it more comfortable somtimes to induce a slide, because then it's more clear as to what to do in this or that situation. apart from it feeling fun, it gives you a tiny bit more time to react. other than that, you learn all kinds of surfaces (and changes in them), and know what's up in advance. if i'm not in a slide, i'm alwais prodding the surface by giving it a tad bit more throttle than seems good for staying straight, just to have an idea as to what's going on.
I do that too, theres a bent bridge at a highway intersection that is downhill, slippery and bumpy that I learned how to cross it and what speed it can take just by adding a bit of throttle when unsure about how much grip I have.
***** Patience is key, if you get chewed out for being late all ya gotta say is would ya rather me crash and not get there at all? If the highway is sheer ice i wouldn't go more than maybe 40 in a semi. 45 in a car.
***** Exactly picturing it in your head and going it are two completely different things. Just continue to be safe out there when there's ice even if you're havin a bad day.
I watched this video years ago and practiced a little in an empty lot when I lived a place with snow and ice for ~2 years. Today it saved me totaling my car. Applied too much power in a turn, lost back traction due to water on the road. Corrected it smoothly, and safely.
Step 1 - Know your vehicle. Step 2 - Refer to Step 1. Step 3 - If Step 1 and Step 2 are beyond your comprehension, stay off the roads in any condition.
I just want to say thank you for keeping to the facts and showing useful examples in this video. I just moved up to Boston from Atlanta for a job, and when I got here, one of the first things I asked my coworkers was how to drive on icy roads. I work with a bunch of jokesters who thought it would be funny to tell me super incorrect and dangerous information, like "slam on your brakes as hard as you can" and "jerk your wheel in the opposite direction as soon as you start sliding" and if they hadn't seen that I was taken them seriously and mentally taking down notes, I would have followed their advice and probably gotten in a wreck.
@@theskyizblue2day431 Hah, I know! They're lovely guys and I don't hold it against them other than being a little miffed in the moment. But now I've gotten used to it and can decode when people are being sarcastic a lot better now (usually...)
@@aligned4good Yeah, I definitely gave them a good talking to about "Hey, when I ask for advice about how to be safe in certain conditions, I really mean it. I know it's common knowledge to guys, but I've never really dealt with it before." They seemed to understand, and we didn't have many more things like that, thankfully. They're good guys, it's just that, to them, I was asking an obvious question like "how do I turn my car on?" Or something like that.
The first snow day off from school after I got my drivers license was spent in an empty wide open parking lot at wolf trap farm park, learning how to pump brakes, use the e brake, regain control and straighten out from a fishtail. Then me and my friends did donuts and wide spins at faster and faster speeds to see how many times we could get our cars to spin completely around before running out of parking lot. After that, I always had a good "feel" for maintaining control of my car on wet, icy or snow covered roads. Often when your car starts to lose traction or fishtail the best course of action is to take your foot off the gas but do not brake, and even letting go of the wheel for a second to let physics take over will straighten things out. Most people over correct or hit their brakes, which causes the tires to lose all contact grip with the road, and total loss of control. Be gentle.
When i was young, my older brother used to take me out to a parking lot in snow and we'd do donuts and slides on purpose. Not only was it fun and some of my best memories laughing my butt off but it took the fear out of winter driving because i learned to automatically correct and make it instinct. If everyone had a brother like mine, we'd all be safer on the roads. I trust my driving but i dont trust the inexperience of others around me who cause the collisions
Initially taking the hands of the wheel and letting the car do its thing is key, as long as you're off the gas and brake. For work I drive a mail truck, rear wheel drive, no weight, and I live in Colorado. I always swing the back end around in the road when turning around, letting the vehicle adjust itself at the end. (No cars or people around, of course)
Not only do I not hit my brakes when sliding, I always make sure to take my foot off the gas. I allow the weight of the car to slow me as I steer into the slide. Another little tip if having trouble with an icy road, look for packed snow to drive through; your tires will gain more traction. Great video, +1
Thanks.. I was looking for a comment like this... Soon as rear starts sliding, feet off the brake and accelerator and just use the steering until cars under control before using the accelerator again, right?
@@gurinderpalsingh319 Eh, I definitely don't do this. FWD car and I try to give the front wheels a tiny bit of gas along with the countersteering to match the groundspeed below them. Helps engage traction and pull the front around instead of just being skates.
@@gurinderpalsingh319 Actually, you want to blip the throttle if possible, so that the weight of the car shifts to the rear. Coming off the gas has the same effect as braking, which is to shift the weight to the front, decreasing the amount of grip that the rear tyres have.
@@wam-wildlifeandmore1141 With a fwd car yes. RWD ur just making it worse... unless you wan't to initiate oversteer... for whatever reason that would be ehem. (Drifting)
As a Canadian who drives a lot in icy conditions I can say this is sound advice but I would strongly recommend slowing down to about 50kmp or ~30mph and you'll very seldom slide out and if you do you'll have a lot more time to react properly.
I use to live in canada. I'm from Alberta. One winter, roads were so slippery that you couldn't even walk without slipping. It took me about 5mins to get up to 100kph/60mph i and i would drift every bend in the road.
I live in BC, so I do a lot of snowy mountain highway driving. Another thing, don't suddenly lift off your throttle. That is the same as hitting your brakes. Back off to 3/4 of the throttle you had at most, 7/8th would be better. Then steer as you need to to get out of the slide. Going around a corner and it becomes really slippery, 7/8 throttle, no sudden movements on the steering wheel, throttle or breaks. Hold your entry line all the way through until you are going straight again. Feel free to slow down and stop on the side of the road to take a breath.
I got in my first slide taking a left turn at an intersection some weeks ago. I was able to safely and successfully counter the oversteer and end the slide. Honestly, I gotta give that one to playing driving games. Knowing how to correct for oversteer in a video game prepared me to know what to do in a real-life situation.
"Under 45 you will avoid a slide in the first place" I've spun out going 5 mph. With bad enough ice/traction it can happen at any speed, but it's far more dangerous at high speeds. Thanks for sharing though. It can be scary and the opposite of instinct to hit the gas and not brake when losing control of your car
Black ice is not the same as normal icy/slippery roads. The advice still stands that you should go well under the speed limit. 30 Mph in a 60 zone for example. If the roads are so bad that you spin out at 5 mph, then you'll at least have only crashed going 5 mph.
People need to stop driving like they got a deathwish, they get on the freeway & think that they're in the Indy 500. I made it home, but I lost count of how many car crashes I passed on the freeway tonight. I grew up in the ice & snow, drove in it for 12 years, at times tonight I was going 20 mph. This is so damn sad. Condolences to all of the loved ones, & RIP to all who lost their live
I've driven through northern Texas quite a few times and it would either be late at night or early morning and yes, texas is prone to ice still. Especially when you get around them cattle farms haha
I mean, I think you live in mid to southern AZ (Phoenix and south of) because the northern parts do get snow. There are even places in AZ that see snow every year, even several feet of it! But tbh, I thought the same thing as your comment until I looked it up lol.
What a helpful video! This is the first winter I had to drive (with my children in the car), and it's been super stressful. This video really helped me to understand some things because he shows many examples, and I can visually understand it in my mind. Hope this video helps many more!
Thanks for this. I just got into a wreck when sliding and over correcting. I'm still trying to get my driving confidence back and this is really helpful information
Happens to a lot of people. Just months after getting my license, I was doing 20 mph down a steep hill and lost traction. It was a super tiny road so nothing I could do would correct a slide without landing in a ditch and twisting around trees. Luckily all I did was spin twice and slide in a ditch after the trees.
Started drifting on snow about a year ago and honestly that helped me so much control my vehicle and know what it can do, in fact yesterday i was driving slow on an icy snow covered road, when suddenly it started drifting, instinctivly i corrected it and was back on my lane without even thinking. I would suggest to anyone to try out drifting or doing donuts in winter on an empty parking lot, it will benefit you a lot
Great stuff Dan. I hate when I got into these situations in the past. It's not a nice feeling. But one has to respond just well enough. Then you never know what the end will be when you hit icy road. 45 MPH is way too high. And best advice I give myself is "Stay home." Great video for 5 and 8 hours defensive driving course and points reduction. Bring more vids. Thanks.
Just had a high speed slide today, going 100km/h (60mph). I corrected the slide correctly, and avoided the accident. We don't have icy roads very often where I live. Somehow it just came naturally to me. I sure am happy I played a lot of Need for speed 😄
I actually gained a lot of my driving skill from playing racing games like gran turismo. It creates mucle memory that you would not get if you dont encouter the driving conditions in real life.
My brain shows me a calculated third person view of my car when I slide. I played lots of different driving games, but mostly GTA V. Thanks to games, I can visualize myself in third person and it's very helpful.
I’m 56 and missed out on the gaming era . I might need to ask my kids to hook me up. I am new to winter weather conditions and super paranoid. Some practice would definitely help. I would love for it to be instinctive . Right now I think my automatic reflexes would cause me to do the opposite of what’s required 😕
Anyone that's still uncomfortable driving in this type of weather I recommend finding a safe area to practice at low speeds correcting over/understeer in this weather. Obviously be safe and responsible but practicing and building the muscle memory for the correction is valuable when making that split second decision of what to do.
That's exactly what I am gonna do. I drive an Alfa Romeo 156 1.8 16v twin spark. My tires are good but still my tires can't get immediately grip by starting to drive on wet surfaces. It's even worse when I try to do it as slow as possible. Giving gas seems to give them grip. Also on a roundabout my wheels will slide, both under- and oversteer. It's not the speed... So... My uncle was a driver instructor and examinator and also has given slip lessons. He's now retired but when it's a rainy day he will help me to control my car. I already knew that with driving a trailer that starts to swing behind your car, you don't touch the brakes, like most ppl think but instead of that you give extra gas...
As a Canadian living in one of the regions with the wildest weather, here are a few things, in order of importance: 1. Snow/Winter tires. NOT all-seasons. This is non-negotiable. When the temperature drops below 7°C, it's time for winter tires. Yes it's an extra set of wheels/tires to buy, yes you need the storage space, and yes you need to change them twice every year, but I would rather deal with all that than to gamble with my safety/life, and from experience they've been worth it every time. 2. Use slow and gradual inputs for steering, acceleration, and braking. This way you run less risk of losing traction. 3. Follow the flow of traffic, and err on the slow side. Despite what youtube comments will tell you, being the only driver on the road going way too slow poses a greater safety risk than going at speed or near. If everyone is driving 80-100 and you're driving 40-50, everyone has to change lanes and avoid you. If you really NEED to drive slowly, put your hazards on so you're more visible and people can go around you. 4. Know your car. Front-wheel drive, rear-wheen drive, all-wheel drive, front engine, mid engine, etc. These things affect how you lose traction, how the car reacts to slides, how YOU should react, and how the car will REGAIN traction. 5. All-wheel drive will not help you when you lose traction. It only helps to keep traction but once you slide you might as well not have any wheels at all. 6. Heavier vehicles (trucks and SUVs mainly) need more braking distance. They may be good for not getting stuck in parking spots/heavy snow but on the road they make it harder to brake and react quickly. 7. If you slide, don't brake and don't accelerate, use gentle inputs. On most vehicles (front wheel drive) the front wheels have to pull double duty of both steering and providing power to the wheels, so don't make them do three things at once. 8. Ice and snow are two different beasts. In heavy snow, depending on the speed, if your car DOESN'T have ABS (before 2013) it can actually be better to slam on the brakes. The locked wheels will compact the heavy snow in front of the wheels, dampening them and helping you slow down. On ice, once you have lost traction you have to either try to regain traction first so you can steer, or brace for impact. The vehicles I see the most sliding and crashing and ending up in the ditch are SUVs with all-season/weather tires and all-wheel drive (AWD). Weirdly enough, I find it's mostly newer vehicles too (with ABS, traction control, lane keep assist, etc.).
I'm actually on a ski trip in Montana right now and the 2WD (little) vehicle I have tend to skid a little bit on the icy road. I'm planning on changing it for a Subaru outback AWD today... Are you telling me that it won't help? In Colorado, they normally put chains around the tires this period but I don't see them doing that out here so... Please reply ASAP
#8 was fun to learn, I had a 1990 Toyota corolla essentially and I live on a mountain with steep hills. No Abs. No TCS. Manual trans. But it's not a 4wd with a low ratio transfer case so engine braking only did so much. I ended up intentionally locking the brakes up a few times to build up snow to keep me from sliding into the banks on the way down. As you said though, summer tires suck during snow and ice. It rarely snows here and we got around a foot of snow that year. When I got to the bottom I knew I wouldn't make it back up. Ended up leaving my car at work until it thawed and riding with someone who had a 4wd.
@@davidn.2555 He's certainly not wrong that once you've started to slide, having AWD isn't going to help one bit. I've had vehicles with true 4WD (which is different, just FYI), AWD, RWD, and FWD, and ice can humble any of them. Likewise, if you know how to handle your FWD vehicle (and have snow tires or even chains if you need them in your area), you'll be better off than 90% of the other yuppies in AWD Suburbans and Outbacks out there who still end up in the ditch due to lack of experience/forethought and simply being in a hurry. So takeaways: invest in some snow tires rather than a new car, and find a big, open parking lot to practice managing slides you initiate the next time it gets snowy/icy. Those two things paired with just slowing down a little will serve you much better than a new Subaru.
I always heard it as "turn in the opposite direction of the slide" in that the referenced half of the vehicle is the front, where you are actually facing: if the front of your vehicle turns to the left, turn to the right, if the front of your vehicle turns to the right, turn to the left. That always seemed more intuitive because what most people are going to think of automatically is how the world outside looks relative to you, not what the back half of your vehicle is doing.
keco185 No. We must adapt to the conditions. We can't just form the world to be exactly better for us. Especially on the spot. You can't edit the world in front of you, as you're driving. It's best to just be ready.
I want to thank you sir for the explanation. I have a driver licence for 8 years and last year in the winter I had a slide with some damages on the car. The car is fully repaired but I have nightmares from time to time. Watching this video explains me a lot.
Nice work on this video. I’m in Michigan and I can attest to both successful and unsuccessful correction over all my years of driving. I would also say that 30-35mph is the sweet spot in most icy conditions. Any faster and you’ll likely spin out or hit the guy in front of you for pile ups. Any slower and the crown/bank of the road can actually pull you to the shoulder. When it’s that icy you’re better off not driving at all and just waiting it out.
I've always said, people who are also *afraid* to drive in snow should STAY HOME. I've driven in snow for 46 years now, took my driver's test in the snow (and passed the first time) since I was a January baby. I know how to drive in snow, it's other people who DON'T slow down, and who are afraid, that cause accidents, they need to stay off the roads or get training. Now icy roads ? That's a bad deal for anyone to drive on. *Folks, please slow down in bad weather, you will save lives, quite likely your own*
Pile-ups are the worst there is no escape your best driving skills at best will give you a softer landing maybe. If you get a panic attack you are not gonna make it. I once hit a snow white out and had no visibility for about 15 seconds I had to follow the tire tracks by feel in the snow and my worst nightmare was that I was rolling into a pile up you just have to roll through them and hope its clear.
I remember one time when I was driving back from school and I could literally feel my wheel slipping off the roadway, I looked behind me and this girl in a Honda was literally swerving side to side on the road, along with the fact that I saw 3 non fatal accidents. your car literally feels like a hockey puck. The only good thing was that the road wasn't that busy.
Thanks, we haven’t really covered this in drivers ed. a few years ago, I was coming home from work on a snowy/icy night (I worked nights) and boss wouldn’t let us leave early because it was a Friday. I nearly ended up in a ditch going downhill on a 50 mph road with turns and twists. Somehow my car wasn’t even out of alignment or damaged but I did manage to miss a pole by maybe 6-9 inches. You are 100 percent correct when you say it’s a heart stopping feeling 😅
I've been doing the wrong thing and getting very lucky. I spun completely out last night going about 30 mph when I hit some ice. I turned against the skid and lightly pumped my brakes and ended-up going across the road backwards, only stopping when I eventually slid into the curb. I was fortunate in that no one else was on the street so there was nothing to crash into.
Buy proper snow tires. Get out in a parking lot and play around. Stop being scared. Sliding is just part of driving on slick stuff and isn't difficult to deal with at all. You just have to practice it.
these guys are right, you need to practice because you just experienced some sort of mini "trauma". reenacting and gaining confidence will make you not feel so anymore. good luck
I was in the unfortunate predicament of having to drive my friend's two-wheel drive up a steep icy hill because she was out of town. I've never been so scared to drive in my life. The car was constantly swerving and I almost drove off the road. Sometimes I felt like I was driving the car forwards while the wheels were sideways. Luckily I made it up without accidents, but this video would really have come in handy.
He is right about the speed. But I'd suggest you to learn from a real professional instructor then learning some of the wrong techniques explained in this video.
I'm glad I found your channel. I wish I could have a discussion about this with a few of my loved ones that are, "crusin' for a bruisin'" as we used to say. But some people will always drive the same on dry roads as they do on wet or snowy roads. I'm hoping my newly licensed teenage son will watch and learn the principles you demonstrate here. This will be his first winter on snowy roads without an adult in the car. I appreciate that you took the time to take to make this. I learned a lot.
My first car accident was caused by a slide. I'm from Quebec so the winter weather was absolutely brutal one morning to work and it was the first time I managed to total my first car. Crazy to be able to talk about it as the accident involved two incidents as I ran into another truck. After that I learnt how to deal with slides and now have a Subaru because of the crazy bi polar weather of Quebec! Stay safe everyone.
On ice; you have no traction. You only have a trajectory. Line up your vector before you hit the ice. Cross over the ice with as close to zero control input as you can manage; including turning, accelerating and decelerating. If you do slide; keep the front wheels pointing in your intended direction. You have a good chance of reaching the other end safely.
was going downhill straight icy road 10mph. at. one point front of car started sliding left towards rails. i very slowly turned the steering wheel right. it briefly caught traction before i hit the rail so i didn't crush. did i do well or was i lucky?
I think you mean keep the wheels pointed in the direction that you’re actually going. That’s where a lot of people mess up by pointing the wheels where they want to go/intend to, instead of pointing the wheels towards what you’re sliding into
@@Redneckeverything In such conditions it's all about the tires. You can bet they aren't driving on American all season tires! In the US, for whatever reason (often economical) the majority of drivers, even in northern regions, insist on driving on all season tires year around. If you walk around the parking lot at the local shopping center where I live near the Canadian border in the winter, it is very predictable, newer cars (especially AWD) will have winter tires installed, but almost without fail older cars will have the same all season tires they have had on all year. Folks just can't afford two sets of tires, plus the expense of having them installed and removed every year (over 100.00 dollars). Which brings up the point, just because you have the latest and greatest AWD with top of the line winter tires, when you are out on the road in nasty conditions, you have to realize that everyone out there isn't as fortunate. Have a little patience and understanding.
When I was fifteen, I was learning how to drive on rainy conditions with my grandfather and the car slid, it was a 90 degree frozen turn and I managed to keep the car stable without even realizing that it slid... My grandfather was surprised because it was only the second time I was driving. I'm pretty sure this reflex came from video games which I used to play a lot (GTA and NFS). And when my dad gave me my own car I learned how to drift in empty parking lots so I can have a better control on cars, I really advise all new drivers to learn how to drift in empty spaces because if drifting is used correctly in can prevent more crashes than we think.
Completely agree with you. People should get to know how their car behaves in certain situations. Though I can't get my car to slide at all even though it's a V12 Mercedes from 1995. ASR immediately drops the power from rear wheels after noticing spinning thus preventing any actual sliding. ASR can also be disabled if you want to have fun. :]
Yep, NFS Most Wanted was the first place where I experienced over/understeering without realizing it. But I adapted to it when I used to game a lot and yesterday I had to put this knowledge into real-life practice and it was as if it was an instinct... And with happy end :D
My Father took me out to practice sliding on fresh frozen snow. I had my learners permit then & his offices had several large empty parking lots where he had me speed up and then abruptly stop. I learned because he wanted me to learn not to panic. I was a single Mom who also prepared both of my children do the same. NO ONE SHOULD MISS TEACHING A PERMITTED DRIVER TO POWERSLIDE & RECOVER. This should be a bi-law especially in stars that do have the weather conditions. It’s a shame no attention is required. Thank you for providing this 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
You saved my life! A week ago i was watching this video and in the last days i have a situation to put it in test, not in snow, but instead, a long carpet of SAND in a small out on a highway, im from argentina, and here the highways doesnt have any kind of wall or contain like in the US, you just got out and roll over, and i lose the control like in this video and i made out safely! I think it was a construction truck that crashed and trow sand all over the asphalt, anyway, you saved my life! Thank you a lot!
thank you for this video it saved me yesterday, was about to spin out i was 90° turned left doing only 55km/hr in a 90 zone, remembered your words and was able to safely correct it and get home safe so thank you 10000000x for this. GO SLOW is the lesson i learned even if it means you must do 30 in a 90 with your 4 ways on snow and ice are dangerous even with winter tires. DRIVE SAFE YALL
I needed a good refresher on correcting slides. I live in a state that gets a lot of snow/ice. I cannot emphasize how important driving slower on slick roads is along with not panicking. On highways stay in the slower lane even. A few other things: I've found, along with going slower and not braking during a slide, that letting yourself slide ends up stopping the slide from getting worse. Give people in front of you more space or don't even be behind someone at all. If you constantly have snow, having good winter tires is a life saver!!
Simple thing. Find empty parking lot covered in snow and do some practice! You will see how quick u can learn to control the car in slide. Its not hard and its safe on open area without traffic. Only hour of PRACTICE can SAFE your or others LIFE ! Be safe out there. bye
I do this every winter. It’s a lot of fun. I tell people to do that and they think I’m crazy. Last time I did it in a parking lot with a cop there and he only said do whatever you like just don’t hit my car. lol
And if you happen to hit a patch of ice, even accounting for the conditions with the appropriate speeds, you still run the risk of slipping. It doesn’t matter. Learning to control it is absolutely key.
Not to mention the money you’ll have to spend in repairs and increased insurance cost, or in a really unfortunate case, the money paid back to the lean holder despite not even having the vehicle anymore.
Thank you for clarifying that you're supposed to turn into the slide based on which direction the REAR of your car is turning. I remember so much from my written exam as a teen, and one thing I remember is that (at least where I'm from and when I took it years ago) they don't clarify that your turn is based on the REAR end of your vehicle!
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Dan Robinson the cast stone 7:52 should have applied the brakes very lightly in-between the corrections while the car hand a few moments of going in a straight line... But he never decreased speed at all ! so ended in the wall.
"with higher speeds the more likely you are to loose control due to ice"
This isn't technically correct, speed alone does not cause wrecks in any circumstance. However when you are going faster, the time that is required to react to sudden changes in road conditions reduces. This is what causes most wrecks that involve speeding and ice. Slower is often better when conditions can change drastically without warning.
I think there is a reaction time factor, but the bigger difficulty is that the faster you're going, the harder it is to control your car. Most people don't understand the physics of it, so it's challenging, especially because the difficulty increases exponentially based on your speed..
Great video. I always say the most fun I ever had on the road was driving an Ambulance on snow. Never got above 30-40mph though - crashes are always slower than driving slowly.
2nd driver in Volkswagen 10:02 was my aunt
I have lived in snowy areas and driven on icy roads all my life, and still found this video helpful. When you slow down on icy roads people tend to start honking at you. Let them honk. Never drive faster than you feel safe.
i always ignore that scumbags sometimes you can slow down more, if they need they will overtake you and you might see how they slide :D
Drive as fast as you’re comfortable, AND stay in the slow lane (if applicable)
@@wolfganggunterberger5718 why don't you counter stear? Swang it? If you turn into the slide you do a full 360
It's always the subarus and mustangs
Try that in massachusetts see how well that goes for you 🤣
it is also proven that if you are listening eurobeat when the car starts to oversteer you have higher chance of turning it into a sweet drift
KANSEI DORIFTO?!
I was hoping I'd see a comment like this
Then you crash
Lol even in my truck im sliding around at 70
Robert Lataoan it depends. If you drive a modern car with abs and traction control, which is actually more dangerous. Then yeah. Since you can't spin, and lock the tires as you please, you'll end up snap oversteering since you can't send enough power to the rear wheels... (Oh wait most cars are fwd anyway) but if you drive an ae86 (back when the Toyota Corolla was an actual car) then you can pull off drifts ez and do whatever.
Tips for driving in icy conditions:
Slow down.
No, slow down more.
No, even more slowly...
Don't let the people around you dictate at what speed your driving.
ok at some point you're going dangerously slow
Don't be cocky. That's the number one thing I've seen with bad drivers or just anybody who thinks they can do something only to end up killing themselves.
But go too slow and you’ll get stuck lol
eurosonly no you just don’t know how to drive lmao
When u slowing down but that one truck driver always getting so close...
We had to practice this in order to get my license. Braking and correcting slides on slippery surfaces. Its very fun to try when it is in controlled circumstances. Another thing in general when driving in icy conditions is to check your grip periodically. Just tap the brakes in a clear area and feel what kind of grip your got. And also kinda knowing what your vehicle is capable of. I actually like playing around in snowy conditions and always spends the first day of snow drifting a little bit when the roads are empty and unsalted. I helps build habits to get that instinctive reaction to correcting slides. Because the quicker you can correct a slide, the higher your chances of succes become, and not overcorrecting to much is also important and is something you have to get muscle memory to do well at.
Check grips periodically is exactly what I do each time before I drive out of my cul-de-sec and on the road which my wife can't understand and does not agree.
"We had to practice this in order to get my license"
I wish it could be the same in more countries...Danish Licence ? Sveden ?
Here in France, i had the luck to make some "car handling" training in a dedicated center ; wet glassy surfaced corners and others funny things ^^
Very helpful (to say the least) when i later had to face emergency situations !
Interesting to learn that was on your driving test! Being from the southern US, we definitely don’t get enough snow or ice for it to be required but I wonder if it is for any northern states. The information is invaluable regardless and that lack of requires education (and testing) is exactly what brings me here to this video.
Solid advice about periodically checking your grip as well. Should you also do the same in wet & stormy conditions?
@@lifeinmn I mean every time you leave the house seems pretty unnecessary, but yea good to check periodically
Where is this. Which country has this requirement for license. In canada we don’t have this wish it was there
Me: *Driving during a blizzard
*Car starts to slide
Me: *Pulls up this video
quickly put the car in 2nd or 3rd gear, turn the wheel hard and floor it
@@mirkomargiste2366 fwd intensifies
@@Kinkese Agreed peoples most common reaction from the guilty conscious of driving too fast for conditions is to let the foot off the gas. Even if they do not apply the brakes this will cause them to spin out of control. I loathe front wheel drive cars.
LOL - not.
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I find this very fascinating. Living in Australia, I haven't even touched snow and never been on an icy road. All you drivers have my deepest respect. Stay safe. Susan
Here in North Italy we have 4 months of ice, so yes, i drive a Subaru for a reason
It's not really difficult. The biggest thing is just to slow way down. If the speed limit says 60 and everyone's doing 60, you're way below what the car's capable of. In the ice, the equivalent speed limit might be 10-20 mph (if it was actually posted), but people tend to do 30-40 mph and it causes issues. It's especially bad because a lot of people drive on summer or all-season tires then try to keep up with people on proper snow tires.
I've driven mid-engine, rear-wheel drive vehicles with summer tires through the ice and it's still not difficult. You just have to slow down even more. The biggest danger there is if you're doing 15 mph when everyone else is doing 45 mph. Or if you try to go down a 10% grade with no grip.
I tend to slide out pretty easy in Mexico
Chicago... many years.
Canada. TOKYO DDDDRRIIIIIIFFFFTTTTT type beat 8 out of 12 month 😂
This is lowkey a how to drift video.
I ain't complaining
On ice!
how to drift "legally" sorry officer I lost traction for a minute
That's why I'm watching
hahahah
The scariest driving I’ve ever experienced was the first blizzard of the year in Denver last year. People were going anywhere between 15 and 70 mph on the highway in the dark of night and snow covering all of the lane markers. Thank you for educating those who never needed to know this information until now. No judgement. Just drive safe!
Here in Sweden I bought my first car in November last year. It was a sunny day, no snow that winter yet. On my way back home, all of a sudden a blizzard begins. It was one of the snowiest days ive ever witnessed, and it went from 0 to 100 real quick. The worst part is the car was still on summer tires. Had to drive home in first/second gear in anything between 5 to max 20mph on a 70 mph highway. And even at such low speeds, the car wanted to slide every now and then + braking distance noticably increased. Saw one person switching tires on the side of the road at one point.
Denver traffic is insane. I used to have a friend who lived down that way and I hated driving through the city on the highway. Even at 11 PM on a weekday (when I'd choose to arrive in order to avoid traffic) there were still cars in all lanes and some people weaving in and out through the traffic because they were that impatient.
@@IstasPumaNevadaand it used to be so great! Denver had super curious drivers until Californians started pouring in.
I just spun out in north Denver this AM and there was barely any snow - very deceiving! Luckily I didn’t hit anyone or anything cause it was early AM but still very scary
Unfortunately, you cant educate some people. There are so many careless drivers that will never listen to reason. They should stay off the roads !
Thanks to this, I was able to correct a slide after hitting my first ever icy patch on the road, completely saved my life and my car
Same here!
My parents got mad at me when they found out, but on the first snow day after I had gotten my drivers license a few friends and I went to a large wide open parking lot to learn how to drive on ice and snow. We taught ourselves how to straighten out from fishtails and spinouts.
Years later I was travelling about 85 mph on 270 and came upon a patch of standing water that caused my car to hydroplane. I spun like a top for four full revolutions but was able to regain control and not wreck because I did nothing at first, no brake, no steer. I waited until I could feel the momentum was low enough to allow correcting. Any attempt to correct the first few revolutions would have most likely changed my overall direction of momentum and sent me into a jersey barrier on one side of the other. I knew that the first thing was to keep my momentum in the original direction of travel where there were no barriers or obstructions.
Grab the E break and just roll with it
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@sly dankass sure but please stop using your cellphone while driving. It’s not just yourself you’re making the road unsafe for. It’s everyone else around you. Using you phone while driving is worse than, driving tired or drinking.
im honestly AMAZED at how these things arent taught in driving school. like every driver should know this not just for their own safety but for the safety of others. you never think itll happen to you until it does. and it WILL. happened to me in the rain but thank the lord no cars tboned me while i was gliding and thank god there was just grass on the shoulder
In drivers ed at school they did teach this kind of stuff, at least at my school.
I think in many driving schools it is taught, but without putting it into practice it is forgotten. Like trigonometry.
it is thought on how to drive in the winter. ETc - winter tires, chains (or however it is called on EN), but if u take your exam during summer there won't be any ice for u to practice
I live in the desert so we were never taught this. Now I'm here trying to learn!
It’s in the driver’s manual tho
In Norway to get a driver's license you have to do a mandatory course in driving on slippery road
same in Sweden.
That's pretty cool.
That's actually a great idea, if you live somewhere that cold it could save your life
Thats because there is way more snow in scandinavia
same in Estonia.
This is so useful for people who never encountered icy roads (me). But will be traveling to places that might have it. Never a bad idea to be prepared.
I've always heard "turn into the slide" before and thought it was counter-intuitive. I thought it meant if you're sliding to the left, turn left, so I intended to go against my instincts if this happened to me. Watching this video I can see it's referring to the direction of the BACK of the vehicle, not the front, which means my instincts were correct and I would've been in trouble in a slide. So thanks, this video was a big help! And people who are explaining this to others really need to specify BACK of the vehicle when describing the movement!
Agreed, better to call it countersteering
I have always remembered it as keep the fronts wheels pointing at where the car is going/sliding. If you can keep the front wheels from loosing grip (e.g. flip it into neutral) with the road you can control the slide and let the car lose enough speed to regain rear traction.
The worse thing is that most people just know the phrase and don't know what it actually means.
Also, presumably this phrase came from the fact that the back of your car is likely to slide to the right when making a left, and vice-versa, so it really means to turn the wheel the opposite to what you were just doing, but don't over correct or hit the brakes either when doing it.
I agree with you that if the back of my car was sliding to the right, intuition would be to turn the wheel right, but people would likely panic and either do nothing or hit the brakes which is probably why turning into the slide became a common phrase after each accident.
If you are driving a manual transmission car remember to also press down the clutch since this will give better traction to the wheels
Absolutely. I think it's very easy to misunderstand the phrase turning into the slide. Exactly what you said it's turn in the direction the back of your vehicle is going. Good clarification.
Every single thing this guy says is 100 percent accurate. This is an amazing teaching video. I drive an 18 wheeler and have personally tried all techniques in this video over the past 5 years of driving the country and they all worked for me and have kept me from wrecking out many times. Literally, do not panic. Steer into it. It'll straighten itself back out.
Sadly this is not true, many people will not have the feel to do this, much rather use the ABS and traction control of your car. They are there for a reason.
I had a high horsepower rear wheel drive mustang where the back end would kick to one side or the other if you accelerated too hard in too low of a gear, even on dry pavement. I learned really fast that most of the time when you feel the back end begin to slip, simply taking your foot off the gas can be enough to correct before total loss of traction. Whereas once you hit the brakes you've lost any remaining traction and ability to steer or control speed. Same with steering. Sometimes if you just let the steering wheel and wheels find their own path, they'll correct for you. I always loosen my grip and give the wheels a chance to pull in the direction they want to go before attempting to steer myself out of a spin.
@sly dankass I disagree. I drive an AWD manual and the engine will brake harder than I would with the clutch and slightly touching the brake pedal. However I've never slid out in my car I keep good tires on it and drive for the conditions. I did slide in my sister's Ford AWD but she had 70K miles on those tires (the ones that came with the car) but the traction control saved me I think. It was all less than 2 seconds.
@@010falcon locking up the brakes is only one way things can go wrong in slick conditions. Wheels don't have to lock in order to lose traction. Simple pressure differences between wheels can break traction. Tapping anti lock breaks in a turn can break traction.
Daily reminder, acab.
When you have to watch this because your school won’t call a snow day
When they wouldn't do that I'd do donuts in the parking lot just to spite them. 😂
@@cmoney0129 beast😂😂💯
Me too hun
Bella M school?? Try work
Bella M welcome to canada
I live in a tropical country. We don't have icy roads but have lots of muddy slippery roads when it rains. I've found that the same driving techniques apply when correcting slides on muddy roads. Thks!
I used to go to empty ice lots with my buddies all the time and have drifting sessions. Made me incredibly good with ice. And my baby sister just got her license, im taking her with us for her first winter. She’ll need it haha
How did she do?
@@Rohgamu She died
BMW ftw. Good man. I am running summer tires on my BMW this winter. Makes things more challenging.
Lol
hellcat this a srt
Most important point: switch to winter tires in winter.
I’ve been fine with all weather tires as well. My current car I have (2001 Dodge Durango) is far better for the winter than my previous two cars and this is my first 4WD car. I always slow down extra anyway but since I have 4WD, I know I’m a bit safer. However, if I begin to slide I let off the gas and not brake so that I can correct it easier.
@@lakerskid2013 that's how you do it drive it with the throttle
Wait even with winter tires they slide right? (I'm not being sarcastic I genuinely want to know) I have a car but I'm a new driver and this is my first winter. I did install winter tires but still didn't want to drive unless I know how to handle the car.
@@h.ar.2937 yes, they will slide
@@h.ar.2937 Yes, they are way better in snow and slush but for black ice nothing but spikes will help all that much.
This is such an important subject! I first got my license at the beginning of a Canadian north winter. Our dad drilled into us what to do and to my delight, when my first skid hit on a busy bridge I just automatically turned the wheels into it, even though that seemed like I was turning toward the opposite traffic. My skid stopped almost instantly and I headed on. Heart beating hard I realized how important it had been to mentally practice the move ahead of time. I wouldn't have had the time to think it out at that moment.
Hi hello, tnk u for sharing ur experience....i really wanted to apply ur technique here in manitoba but manybof the driver here dont dont want to reduce their speed lower than 100km per hour...but for me i want to make my speed only on 50 to 80km for my safety but many canadians advice to always follow the 100km.
I hope that other canadians will also consider others to avoid slide.
Can u give me some advice? Tnk u
@@darwincaguia6230 hello fellow Manitoba👋 drive in the city when you can, and avoid single lane highways when possible. 80 is pretty safe for *most drivers/vehicles on the hwy and I don't recommend doing 50kmh almost ever on the highway. If you're having to go that slow on the highway probably better to stay home. You can account for other drivers by driving more defensively and that's about it. Let people by you that want to and give yourself extra time :)
Watching this vid I just realized I was never taught any of this, but I still knew what to do when I started driving and was caught in my first slide. I think I must know how to from learning how to drift in car racing games when I was a kid, and then learning how to drift snowmobiles around corners on the trails. It's the same physics for all 3 situations.
I honestly wish this was taught in driving schools, maybe with the use of a simulator for safety. There should also be a winter driving portion of the driver's test, it's ridiculous that there isn't considering most of us living in Canada have anywhere from 3-7 months of snow on the ground in a given year.
@@darwincaguia6230 I've definitely been in situations where I've had to go 50km or even lower on highways, but it's usually due to extreme whiteout conditions or heavy fog. And in those situations, everyone is going 50km, usually with their flashers on. I would say if you find yourself frequently going a lot slower than the flow of traffic that maybe you just need a bit more confidence with winter driving, and unfortunately that confidence usually doesn't come unless you get lots of practice. I would say definitely get some good quality snow/ice tires if you haven't already, and if possible drive a vehicle that has extra features for bad weather (4WD/AWD, traction control for wet/snowy conditions). Going to an empty parking lot to practice after a fresh snow is very important to get the 'feel' of what to do when your vehicle starts sliding, it really helps if your body instinctually knows what to do as soon as you start sliding. Also remember that you're very unlikely to start sliding if you're driving in a straight line, most of the danger comes from turning, stopping and hills. So just make sure before you encounter those things that you're going slow enough to do them safely. And in the event that you need to drive significantly slower than other drivers, make sure to move to the right lane and put your flashers on. Hope this helps a bit and drive safe! 😊
Practicing car control in a safe place can be super helpful as you know how your car will respond when you do lose traction.
I lost control of my car on black ice on the high way after coming from church service at night in 2019. I had my son which was four years old at the time. It was one of the scariest experience I had. My car started spinning out of control. I was terrified but by God's grace the car safely hit a snowbank which stopped the car. The car wasn't damaged and we were safe. I remember everything stopped. The cars stopped to witness what was happening. I remember sitting there in silence to relax before eventually driving off. I praise and thank God for delivering us that day.
Wild
God is good
One thing that’s import to mention is the timing of correction in addition to being careful not to overcorrect. As soon as you feel the rear slipping out, you need to react and react proportionly. Being prepared for the oscillation is key and it's important to start turning the wheel back BEFORE the next oscillation. If you wait until the car snaps back in the other direction to start steering, it might be too late.
You also want to push the throttle just slightly to shift more weight to the rear but not too much
@@tylerott4989 Yeah, that seems to be the most overlooked aspect: abrupt loss of throttle = suddenly weightless rearend with no traction.
When my Dad said "Steer into the skid" and tried to explain it after my crash on a wet road, I didn't understand it at all. But with the pictures, advice, and examples, I know what it means now. Thanks for this.
The phrase has no intuitive meaning.
“Steer into the skid” confuses everyone, what direction am I skidding?, how hard do I turn the steering wheel?.
I found “STOP what you’re doing with your FEET” (take your foot off the gas or brake) and “LOOK to where you want to go STEER towards it” This stops the skid and avoids over-correction.
Anticipating slippery conditions then adjusting your speed and following distance is necessary but too many don’t and cause multi-vehicle collisions.
If it ever snowed in Los Angeles the city would be paralyzed, folks here can't drive in the rain let alone snow or ice.
That's why bad drivers need to stay off the roads. This includes those that drive in snow regularly every year.
Lol, come to Portland. Oregonians can't drive in the rain and snow. And we get both.
UnknownDev that's because most of them are originally from LA LOL
Bad Kitty No Milk Tonight It was so horrible on Wednesday.
chrisgast They aren't horrible drivers it's just that California barely gets rain
Yes, this was a helpful video. As my parents put it 40 years ago when I was learning to drive, if the car hydroplanes or slides on ice, immediately take your foot off the gas, do not brake, and turn into the slide. Obviously it's unsettling to feel the car start to "float" while driving, but if you keep your cool - and you're not driving too fast - you can manoeuver through it.
Absolutely
I noticed he doesn't mention to take your foot off the gas...thats as important as how go correct the spin.
Works only on rear wheel drive, for the front wheel drive you have to keep your foot on gas and even put more gas to stabilise
I did it 2 days ago, exactly as described in the video. Forced onto the side of the road by a plow on a death curve. Corrected instantly and slowed down. Saved us and our vehicle.
Good job bb hope you're okay
@@blockinglowtier ayo?
you didn't even get to flip it? even once? aww.
I force my car to lose control drifting is fun lol
well done
Learning how to drift actually helps, specially in Canada!
Ice has no friction coefficient unlike asphalt so think again!! Drifting!! That's funny!!! One is breaking friction to slide the other is no friction to stop sliding, yeah they're one in the same!! LOLOLOL!!!!
Matthew Fogarty ???
@ they are the same, they are just caused/initiated differently and have different speed angles. Drifting skills would help when slide happens so driver knows what to do, countersteer.
My advice is to get a QUATTRO with the right winter tires and drive it with the right speed. The satisfaction is fantastic. No joke or hard feelings. Hi to all!
Combine with eurobeat for best result
"If it hasn't...IT WILL"
"No not really, I chose to live in Florida" lol
Ok so it doesn't rain in Florida?
Do you ever leave Florida lol . Northern Fl can get some ice during the winter not often but it happens. An Ty is correct the same driving skills apply to rain and hydroplaning .
Well played🤣🤣
Maybe live on the 🌞. :)
yeah with alligators robbing ur house and mosquitos kidnapping ur family lmao
What I've experienced living in an area with a lot of rain and snow is this:
The most uncertain grip conditions are right around freezing point when the road is wet but some patches of ice can appear, or when the road seems dry but it's cold enough for black ice to be present.
Your appropriate speed is the amount of steering angle your car will tolerate before beginning to slide. In corners, find that limit and don't exceed it, your speed varies accordingly; in a straight line, turn from left to right while gradually gaining speed: as soon as that movement becomes uncomfortable, you know you've reached the limits of straight line grip.
Roads that are covered in snow are easy to read thanks to the grip levels being roughly consistent.
Smooth ice is impossible to drive on unless you have studded tires
*Flashback of Cars 1*
Go right to go left.
Go right to go left.
Go right to go left.
That was the first thing that popped into my mind
Most underrated comment ever!!!
Program & Chill just like hard to port
Scandinavian flick for dummies lol
Cultured
They should make the slippery road course mandatory everywhere where it snows as it is in most of Northern Europe, because no matter how much theory you listen, you will probably still panic when the car starts sliding under you for the first time. My father let me drive on frozen lakes already when i was 10 years old, so winter has always been fun drift season for me
Agreed.
Same here but I tought myself
in sweden it is
I practiced in an icey parking lot and then plenty of real world up and down the mountains.
Here in northern Sweden when snow comes, we go out to have some fun! It is funny to see videos from the south where they can't drive
"turn into the slide" is the phrase that has caused the most confusion. Most people don't realize that the back of the car is the one sliding. All they see is that they're turning left (fishtailing right) and they think they are supposed to turn left as well.
That's the main reason why I clicked on this video; I never really knew what "turn into the slide" meant. We should change it to "turn in the same direction the tail end is moving."
Or "turn to the direction the tail end is NOT supposed to be moving" in the case of a "understeer" slide. But the direction to turn the wheel to should be instinctively correct, anyway.
Arjuna Ravikumar easy,turn in,if u go right,turn "in" to right,left,turn "in" to left. IN WHAT MEANS???
the phrase "turn into the skid" itself is the cause for the confusion.
Exactly! I have always been confused by 'Turn into the slide', but this has explained it perfectly......watching this video the day I have bought my first RWD car......
Great video. While not braking is important, it's also important to ease off the gas and not lift suddenly. Suddenly lifting off the gas causes a forward weight transfer. Forward weight transfer means more weight (and thus traction) on the front wheels and less on the rear... NOT what you want to happen when you're already in an oversteer situation. Excellent point about coming off ice and onto dry or salted pavement. That sudden change of friction can make it difficult for even an experienced driver to recover from a slide, as the car can react violently when the tires suddenly gain traction mid-correction. Performance driving school is expensive, but go anyway! Practicing slide recovery in a controlled setting could save your life someday.
Yeah, the interplay of suspension is also a 'gotcha', when the compressed springs let go and bounces your car the other way.
That also depends on what kind of throttle you have. Definitely with throttle by wire, not so much with cable throttle.
1:40
The light pole HAD to be there
Of course it did. Figure that the plan for the light pole being in that exact location, where a slide is very likely to happen, was drawn up intentionally with the knowledge that that pole would be hit frequently and need replacing frequently, thus affording a work crew good-paying winter work when there's otherwise nothing going on.
Guys, did GTA teach you nothing? That always happens
That’s EXACTLY what I was gonna say lol
Well, it’s gotta be somewhere.
My aunt in England slid ( safely ) on a snowy road, but was too scared after that to drive. My uncle insisted she take a ' skid control ' safe driving course. She did, and it helped her get over her fear of driving after that.
That is a good, supportive man. Props to your Uncle, and to your Aunt for following through!
Best description of over- and under-steer I've seen, and best advice on correcting a slide. Superimposing the steering wheel on the video makes "steering into the slide" so much easier to understand. Well done!
I practiced this maneuver on a large empty icy packing lot . This really helped me out when I had to use this maneuver in real-time. Front wheel, four wheel and rear wheel drive vehicles behave totally different at least from my experience. The four wheel drive vehicle's braking distance isn't any better than the two wheel drive cars .
Of course. All cars have four-wheel brakes.
@@MatejaMaric try hitting your brakes on wet road with clutch engaged and disengaged. Is stopping distance the same? AWD helps in same way - helps prevent wheel lock's, but on all wheels. Issue is that effect is about order of magnitude weaker than effect AWD have on acceleration and handling, so you really easy end up driving faster than you should.
When I first got my license many years ago, I was always told to do this because I have winter driving phobia (still do today, as both a driver and passenger), the first time I attempted this, I got pulled over. Tried this maneuver a few winters later, got pulled over again. Lol. Never tried after this. I got pulled over immediately both times, two different empty parking lots. 20+ years later, as a Michigander, I still don't know how to drive in winter weather. I follow all the rules to the T, but never been able to figure it out.
@@MissBliss818 sounds like you should move to where the cops are less stupid
AWD/4WD vehicles, when equipped with a torque limiting differential, can regain traction somewhat faster than FWD/RWD vehicles. But one definitely must not rely on that.
Everyone in the comments are making light of it & I'm over here an anxious mess.
Because they have experience. I used to go to empty parking lots and drift my car in the snow. So I have that experience when things like this occur
My first snowfall without winter tires was terrifying I was an anxious mess and that was 2 weeks ago. A neighbor had to address me today for ripping around the crescent fast while he was walking up the crescent with his dog late night. He said I was driving like a maniac telling me about the icy conditions. I'm worried about it I want to be a respectable safe driver not some aloof reckless young driver, I need to fix my bad habits and formally apologize to said neighbor I feel really bad for having him worry for his own safety and my wellbeing it had me so upset afterwards. My commute isnt all that I'll have to be better when I commute longer distances we only get so many driving mishaps.
First winter in the midwest. I'm dyjng.😭
It's easy, you'll be fine. Go to empty parking lots and practice sliding
@@andrewmarcus8272 you havant failed,you just ended your darkness,by learning and understanding,people watching this video are at least on the right track
Best (or most useful) tutorial on youtube. This saved me last winter. I was driving on the highway during snow storm (yes I am an idiot for driving during a snow storm) and I zoned out and was driving at about 55 mph. I didnt mean to but it was a long drive and like I said, I zoned out. I started to slide and I was able to correct my slide using the rules of this video and every one was safe with no accident. Thank you for this video.
same for me today, then turned back to this video to be proud :)
It’s kind of commont sense
@@Matts_ahclimbing Common Sense is so rare today, its practically a SUPERPOWER!
Driving in a snow storm isn’t the IDIOT part, but doing 55mph was.. just sayin..
@@VengefulBatz
Yes, also he says "everyone was safe".
It's a shame if other drivers were in the car too.
As a lifelong winter driver of Northern Minnesota and Alaska, I will say this video is a good one to use for training. I've had close calls but *knock on wood* have never been in an accident during the winter months. The key to a slide is never use the brakes. Downshifting one gear is what worked for me as I drive stick shifts.
it's sad that manual transmissions are getting harder to find these days and soon they will all be gone. The biggest reason I drive a manual is because of the extra control you have with them in the snow.
Yeah , you say sense .
Even me never got stranded in snow, nor never hit the road curbside because of downshifting gear to L2 , L3 , sometimes to L1 and it works perfectly for me .
The key thing for me to control a slide during winter is to quickly turn on "My life be like" by Gritz and scream obscenities in Japanese.
In most automatics you can engine brake by turning overdrive off but its really only effective above 15-20 mph
Unfortunately CVTs are one speed. And they are putting CVTs in the majority of cars nowadays. Many don't even have a 2nd. gear setting, and most don't have lo. It's like driving my lawnmower. Just push the pedal and go! Going down a steep hill? Tap the brake to slow down.
Somehow every winter this video pops up in my recommendations and I watch it again to refresh. Definitely need to find some safe spot to practice a bit cuz theory without practice just doesn't work. Drive safe folks
Practice, practice, practice. Find a large icy parking lot. I was lucky enough to have an unused airfield. P.S. Be careful with SUVs which can flip quite easily.
Too late...I flipped...didn't saw the PS
@Martin Smith That's how I did it. My father taught me how to avoid and correct a skid then I practiced in a big empty parking lot until I did the right things instinctively.
I learned on my days on the dirt track
This is good information, everyone should find a big empty parkinglot to test this out in a safe environment. It can be fun and educational.
Yeah, icy parking lots can be a fun way to see how your particular vehicle will act in ice, but it's best if it is one without a lot of curbs or light poles. :)
Ice is not fun on motorcycles though... Been there, done that, didn't even get out of the parking lot before it slid out from underneath me... :(
Fun and educational? I just came here from another comment section where I said "fun and educational" there. How coincidental.
@@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire could always try it on a bicycle! They're light enough you can counter steer properly
@@XenoTronusWeePoo850 maybe because fun and educational can be applied to many more things in life than we know.
In my country its mandatory to take a course on correcting slids and avoiding them
Swedish tips:
1. drive you’re Volvo in 90 mph on a icy road
2. Dump the clutch
3. Hold the drift
4. Put in a snus
r/madlads
Same in Finland but with BMWs also instead of snus usually its cigarette or beer :D
If you have a snus in your lip and drive a volvo (RWD) you instantly gain a buff to your stats that resist crashing and or loss of controll on your vehicle.
Additionally you gain the title of Northern Touge King,
effects may dissapear after both snow and ice is no longer noticable on roads.
*some kind of eurobeat playing in background*
Explain number 4
Years of sim racing on ice, snow and water has literally save me and my wife’s life. Before moving to the USA I barely had any real life snow and ice driving experience.
Growing up in a small town in rural northern Ontario, I knew this practically out of the womb but this is a GREAT video for those who aren't used to this kind of thing. Very informative and well put together.
If only the other Ontario idiots would know this right?,.specially to slow down,.
It starts with speed, yep.
I drive the 401 daily to get to work. it is so scary watching people drive down the high way in the middle of a snow storm. People will fly in excess of 100km/hr in a dodge charger and think themselves invincible.
I drive a pick-up, with 4x4 and snow tires and I barely go in excess of 70km/hr. I grew up driving nothing but RWD vehicles with no safety assists from traction control and abs...
Its absolutely astonishing how de-sensitized south western ontarians are to snow/ice.
***** to be fair, my parents aren't, either. I think there's more to it than place of origin. Some people never grow into having common sense.
Taylor Lords is
Allright I'm ready to be a drifter now.
Jake Long lol that's what I got out of it too.
actually, this helps.
since i'm a bit of an unpatient driver, i find it more comfortable somtimes to induce a slide, because then it's more clear as to what to do in this or that situation.
apart from it feeling fun, it gives you a tiny bit more time to react. other than that, you learn all kinds of surfaces (and changes in them), and know what's up in advance.
if i'm not in a slide, i'm alwais prodding the surface by giving it a tad bit more throttle than seems good for staying straight, just to have an idea as to what's going on.
i was expecting you :D
I do that too, theres a bent bridge at a highway intersection that is downhill, slippery and bumpy that I learned how to cross it and what speed it can take just by adding a bit of throttle when unsure about how much grip I have.
me too
Most people have a heart attack when they slide in winter. A Canadian drifts the corner while sipping a coffee and smiles.
Gilbert McGillicutty I just had to do that this morning in my truck, I was sipping on a tim's Christmas special white hot chocolate.
As a nothern michigander i can say we do the same.
***** True it doesn't work as well for semis
***** Patience is key, if you get chewed out for being late all ya gotta say is would ya rather me crash and not get there at all? If the highway is sheer ice i wouldn't go more than maybe 40 in a semi. 45 in a car.
***** Exactly picturing it in your head and going it are two completely different things. Just continue to be safe out there when there's ice even if you're havin a bad day.
I watched this video years ago and practiced a little in an empty lot when I lived a place with snow and ice for ~2 years. Today it saved me totaling my car. Applied too much power in a turn, lost back traction due to water on the road. Corrected it smoothly, and safely.
how to correct slide:
RWD - turn into the slide, slow down
FWD - turn into the slide, put on speed
AWD - PRAY
DACHI YT So true!!!
XD
AWD is the eaisest hardly any counter steer needed
😂😂😂
Big Smoke true but people usually place to much "faith" in it and drive faster and end up being unprepared for when a slide does occure
Step 1 - Know your vehicle.
Step 2 - Refer to Step 1.
Step 3 - If Step 1 and Step 2 are beyond your comprehension, stay off the roads in any condition.
Silver Stacker ahahahahaaaaahhh!!! Nice one dude!!!
Any condition?!! lol
I just want to say thank you for keeping to the facts and showing useful examples in this video. I just moved up to Boston from Atlanta for a job, and when I got here, one of the first things I asked my coworkers was how to drive on icy roads. I work with a bunch of jokesters who thought it would be funny to tell me super incorrect and dangerous information, like "slam on your brakes as hard as you can" and "jerk your wheel in the opposite direction as soon as you start sliding" and if they hadn't seen that I was taken them seriously and mentally taking down notes, I would have followed their advice and probably gotten in a wreck.
LOL welcome to MA! Sarcasm is our native language here
I wouldn't call those people 'Jokesters'...giving a dangerous advice for laughs is just not right.
@@theskyizblue2day431 Hah, I know! They're lovely guys and I don't hold it against them other than being a little miffed in the moment. But now I've gotten used to it and can decode when people are being sarcastic a lot better now (usually...)
@@aligned4good Yeah, I definitely gave them a good talking to about "Hey, when I ask for advice about how to be safe in certain conditions, I really mean it. I know it's common knowledge to guys, but I've never really dealt with it before."
They seemed to understand, and we didn't have many more things like that, thankfully. They're good guys, it's just that, to them, I was asking an obvious question like "how do I turn my car on?" Or something like that.
As one who has driven through many snow and ice storms, this is by far the best video. Also having good tires is key and should be mentioned
The first snow day off from school after I got my drivers license was spent in an empty wide open parking lot at wolf trap farm park, learning how to pump brakes, use the e brake, regain control and straighten out from a fishtail. Then me and my friends did donuts and wide spins at faster and faster speeds to see how many times we could get our cars to spin completely around before running out of parking lot.
After that, I always had a good "feel" for maintaining control of my car on wet, icy or snow covered roads.
Often when your car starts to lose traction or fishtail the best course of action is to take your foot off the gas but do not brake, and even letting go of the wheel for a second to let physics take over will straighten things out. Most people over correct or hit their brakes, which causes the tires to lose all contact grip with the road, and total loss of control. Be gentle.
When i was young, my older brother used to take me out to a parking lot in snow and we'd do donuts and slides on purpose. Not only was it fun and some of my best memories laughing my butt off but it took the fear out of winter driving because i learned to automatically correct and make it instinct. If everyone had a brother like mine, we'd all be safer on the roads. I trust my driving but i dont trust the inexperience of others around me who cause the collisions
@@DebRoo11 Bad weather training should be mandatory in most countries to get the license. Unfortunately it's not.
Initially taking the hands of the wheel and letting the car do its thing is key, as long as you're off the gas and brake. For work I drive a mail truck, rear wheel drive, no weight, and I live in Colorado. I always swing the back end around in the road when turning around, letting the vehicle adjust itself at the end. (No cars or people around, of course)
Not only do I not hit my brakes when sliding, I always make sure to take my foot off the gas. I allow the weight of the car to slow me as I steer into the slide. Another little tip if having trouble with an icy road, look for packed snow to drive through; your tires will gain more traction. Great video, +1
Thanks.. I was looking for a comment like this... Soon as rear starts sliding, feet off the brake and accelerator and just use the steering until cars under control before using the accelerator again, right?
@@gurinderpalsingh319 Eh, I definitely don't do this. FWD car and I try to give the front wheels a tiny bit of gas along with the countersteering to match the groundspeed below them. Helps engage traction and pull the front around instead of just being skates.
@@gurinderpalsingh319 Actually, you want to blip the throttle if possible, so that the weight of the car shifts to the rear. Coming off the gas has the same effect as braking, which is to shift the weight to the front, decreasing the amount of grip that the rear tyres have.
A little gas is actually good that way you will pull your car in the correct direction
@@wam-wildlifeandmore1141 With a fwd car yes. RWD ur just making it worse... unless you wan't to initiate oversteer... for whatever reason that would be ehem. (Drifting)
As a Canadian who drives a lot in icy conditions I can say this is sound advice but I would strongly recommend slowing down to about 50kmp or ~30mph and you'll very seldom slide out and if you do you'll have a lot more time to react properly.
I use to live in canada. I'm from Alberta. One winter, roads were so slippery that you couldn't even walk without slipping. It took me about 5mins to get up to 100kph/60mph i and i would drift every bend in the road.
I live in BC, so I do a lot of snowy mountain highway driving. Another thing, don't suddenly lift off your throttle. That is the same as hitting your brakes. Back off to 3/4 of the throttle you had at most, 7/8th would be better. Then steer as you need to to get out of the slide. Going around a corner and it becomes really slippery, 7/8 throttle, no sudden movements on the steering wheel, throttle or breaks. Hold your entry line all the way through until you are going straight again. Feel free to slow down and stop on the side of the road to take a breath.
Yes speed is the biggest factor in avoiding and recovering from sliding
Big advantage also to driving a standard and gearing down in a slide.
Can't go at that speed on the highway in general. Minimum is 60 kmh
I got in my first slide taking a left turn at an intersection some weeks ago. I was able to safely and successfully counter the oversteer and end the slide. Honestly, I gotta give that one to playing driving games. Knowing how to correct for oversteer in a video game prepared me to know what to do in a real-life situation.
"Under 45 you will avoid a slide in the first place"
I've spun out going 5 mph. With bad enough ice/traction it can happen at any speed, but it's far more dangerous at high speeds.
Thanks for sharing though. It can be scary and the opposite of instinct to hit the gas and not brake when losing control of your car
If you watched the entire of video you would of heard him saying in certain bad conditions you can't go 1mph without skidding.
Black ice is not the same as normal icy/slippery roads. The advice still stands that you should go well under the speed limit. 30 Mph in a 60 zone for example. If the roads are so bad that you spin out at 5 mph, then you'll at least have only crashed going 5 mph.
RIP to all who lost their lives today in Fort-Worth TX, & to all of their loved ones - Condolences.
People need to stop driving like they got a deathwish, they get on the freeway & think that they're in the Indy 500.
I made it home, but I lost count of how many car crashes I passed on the freeway tonight.
I grew up in the ice & snow, drove in it for 12 years, at times tonight I was going 20 mph.
This is so damn sad. Condolences to all of the loved ones, & RIP to all who lost their live
@@1jediwitch We never ever get ice in Texas don't blame the drivers
@@kylerbest3208 what? We always get more ice than snow in certain parts in Texas. So when you say we never get ice in Texas is a lie
I've driven through northern Texas quite a few times and it would either be late at night or early morning and yes, texas is prone to ice still. Especially when you get around them cattle farms haha
@@kylerbest3208 well starting this year y’all get ice and next year as well
"If this doesn't happen to you, it will"
Me, living in Arizona: *interesting*
I mean, I think you live in mid to southern AZ (Phoenix and south of) because the northern parts do get snow. There are even places in AZ that see snow every year, even several feet of it! But tbh, I thought the same thing as your comment until I looked it up lol.
Me, living in south Florida: doubtful
***me:moving back to Flagstaff, AZ but with a car this time. This is gonna be fun hahahaha
Sooo...
That's where it happened to me the first time.
What a helpful video! This is the first winter I had to drive (with my children in the car), and it's been super stressful. This video really helped me to understand some things because he shows many examples, and I can visually understand it in my mind.
Hope this video helps many more!
Thanks for this. I just got into a wreck when sliding and over correcting. I'm still trying to get my driving confidence back and this is really helpful information
same, I recommend going to a wide open space when it is either raining or snowing and just practice sliding and correcting
Happens to a lot of people. Just months after getting my license, I was doing 20 mph down a steep hill and lost traction. It was a super tiny road so nothing I could do would correct a slide without landing in a ditch and twisting around trees. Luckily all I did was spin twice and slide in a ditch after the trees.
Me too in March 2021, but I was lucky to buy a new car before the cars got more expensive.
Rule #1 while driving on icy roads. TURN OFF AND KEEP OFF YOUR CRUZE CONTROL.
TheTarrMan I’m always amazed at how many people don’t get that.
No.1 in the list should be "listen to eurobeat"
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Props bro
Learning how to drift in AC actually saved me once from an oversteer slide. Instincts kicked in and tbh it was a fun experience 😂
Everyone from Texas is watching this this weekend hahaha
Yea lol 😆
bro. seriously.
Yup
Just drifting on ice and snow. Put extra weight in box of pick-up.
This is a true statement lol
Started drifting on snow about a year ago and honestly that helped me so much control my vehicle and know what it can do, in fact yesterday i was driving slow on an icy snow covered road, when suddenly it started drifting, instinctivly i corrected it and was back on my lane without even thinking. I would suggest to anyone to try out drifting or doing donuts in winter on an empty parking lot, it will benefit you a lot
How to correct a slide starts at 4:35
You the real MVP
T H X !!
It won't help anyway without hours of training.
Thank you
Thanks
Great stuff Dan. I hate when I got into these situations in the past. It's not a nice feeling. But one has to respond just well enough. Then you never know what the end will be when you hit icy road. 45 MPH is way too high. And best advice I give myself is "Stay home." Great video for 5 and 8 hours defensive driving course and points reduction. Bring more vids. Thanks.
Just had a high speed slide today, going 100km/h (60mph). I corrected the slide correctly, and avoided the accident. We don't have icy roads very often where I live. Somehow it just came naturally to me. I sure am happy I played a lot of Need for speed 😄
I actually gained a lot of my driving skill from playing racing games like gran turismo. It creates mucle memory that you would not get if you dont encouter the driving conditions in real life.
Playing racing games (especially drift-focused games) really does help. Initial D probably saved my ass a few times
My brain shows me a calculated third person view of my car when I slide.
I played lots of different driving games, but mostly GTA V.
Thanks to games, I can visualize myself in third person and it's very helpful.
ASSETTO CORSA IS THA WAY THE REAL SIM RACING GAME
I’m 56 and missed out on the gaming era . I might need to ask my kids to hook me up. I am new to winter weather conditions and super paranoid. Some practice would definitely help. I would love for it to be instinctive . Right now I think my automatic reflexes would cause me to do the opposite of what’s required 😕
Anyone that's still uncomfortable driving in this type of weather I recommend finding a safe area to practice at low speeds correcting over/understeer in this weather. Obviously be safe and responsible but practicing and building the muscle memory for the correction is valuable when making that split second decision of what to do.
That's exactly what I am gonna do. I drive an Alfa Romeo 156 1.8 16v twin spark. My tires are good but still my tires can't get immediately grip by starting to drive on wet surfaces. It's even worse when I try to do it as slow as possible. Giving gas seems to give them grip.
Also on a roundabout my wheels will slide, both under- and oversteer. It's not the speed... So... My uncle was a driver instructor and examinator and also has given slip lessons. He's now retired but when it's a rainy day he will help me to control my car.
I already knew that with driving a trailer that starts to swing behind your car, you don't touch the brakes, like most ppl think but instead of that you give extra gas...
I just stay away from highways on days like that. But I also live in central New York so that’s kinda not the BEST solution tbh...
As a Canadian living in one of the regions with the wildest weather, here are a few things, in order of importance:
1. Snow/Winter tires. NOT all-seasons. This is non-negotiable. When the temperature drops below 7°C, it's time for winter tires. Yes it's an extra set of wheels/tires to buy, yes you need the storage space, and yes you need to change them twice every year, but I would rather deal with all that than to gamble with my safety/life, and from experience they've been worth it every time.
2. Use slow and gradual inputs for steering, acceleration, and braking. This way you run less risk of losing traction.
3. Follow the flow of traffic, and err on the slow side. Despite what youtube comments will tell you, being the only driver on the road going way too slow poses a greater safety risk than going at speed or near. If everyone is driving 80-100 and you're driving 40-50, everyone has to change lanes and avoid you. If you really NEED to drive slowly, put your hazards on so you're more visible and people can go around you.
4. Know your car. Front-wheel drive, rear-wheen drive, all-wheel drive, front engine, mid engine, etc. These things affect how you lose traction, how the car reacts to slides, how YOU should react, and how the car will REGAIN traction.
5. All-wheel drive will not help you when you lose traction. It only helps to keep traction but once you slide you might as well not have any wheels at all.
6. Heavier vehicles (trucks and SUVs mainly) need more braking distance. They may be good for not getting stuck in parking spots/heavy snow but on the road they make it harder to brake and react quickly.
7. If you slide, don't brake and don't accelerate, use gentle inputs. On most vehicles (front wheel drive) the front wheels have to pull double duty of both steering and providing power to the wheels, so don't make them do three things at once.
8. Ice and snow are two different beasts. In heavy snow, depending on the speed, if your car DOESN'T have ABS (before 2013) it can actually be better to slam on the brakes. The locked wheels will compact the heavy snow in front of the wheels, dampening them and helping you slow down. On ice, once you have lost traction you have to either try to regain traction first so you can steer, or brace for impact.
The vehicles I see the most sliding and crashing and ending up in the ditch are SUVs with all-season/weather tires and all-wheel drive (AWD). Weirdly enough, I find it's mostly newer vehicles too (with ABS, traction control, lane keep assist, etc.).
I'm actually on a ski trip in Montana right now and the 2WD (little) vehicle I have tend to skid a little bit on the icy road. I'm planning on changing it for a Subaru outback AWD today... Are you telling me that it won't help?
In Colorado, they normally put chains around the tires this period but I don't see them doing that out here so...
Please reply ASAP
#8 was fun to learn, I had a 1990 Toyota corolla essentially and I live on a mountain with steep hills. No Abs. No TCS. Manual trans. But it's not a 4wd with a low ratio transfer case so engine braking only did so much. I ended up intentionally locking the brakes up a few times to build up snow to keep me from sliding into the banks on the way down. As you said though, summer tires suck during snow and ice. It rarely snows here and we got around a foot of snow that year. When I got to the bottom I knew I wouldn't make it back up. Ended up leaving my car at work until it thawed and riding with someone who had a 4wd.
Thanks for the detailed post. You care about others.
Minnesotan here, I agree to this. We have a saying, it's better to drive slow and wish you were going fast, than drive fast and wish you went slower
@@davidn.2555 He's certainly not wrong that once you've started to slide, having AWD isn't going to help one bit. I've had vehicles with true 4WD (which is different, just FYI), AWD, RWD, and FWD, and ice can humble any of them. Likewise, if you know how to handle your FWD vehicle (and have snow tires or even chains if you need them in your area), you'll be better off than 90% of the other yuppies in AWD Suburbans and Outbacks out there who still end up in the ditch due to lack of experience/forethought and simply being in a hurry.
So takeaways: invest in some snow tires rather than a new car, and find a big, open parking lot to practice managing slides you initiate the next time it gets snowy/icy. Those two things paired with just slowing down a little will serve you much better than a new Subaru.
I always heard it as "turn in the opposite direction of the slide" in that the referenced half of the vehicle is the front, where you are actually facing: if the front of your vehicle turns to the left, turn to the right, if the front of your vehicle turns to the right, turn to the left. That always seemed more intuitive because what most people are going to think of automatically is how the world outside looks relative to you, not what the back half of your vehicle is doing.
That makes it more clear to me.
I think the real takeaway here is that someone needs to do something about that bridge.
keco185 No. We must adapt to the conditions. We can't just form the world to be exactly better for us. Especially on the spot. You can't edit the world in front of you, as you're driving. It's best to just be ready.
yeah, speed humps! that'll slow em down!
demolish it
Observing Rogue Yes you can.
Like what? Demolishing it?
I want to thank you sir for the explanation. I have a driver licence for 8 years and last year in the winter I had a slide with some damages on the car. The car is fully repaired but I have nightmares from time to time. Watching this video explains me a lot.
Nice work on this video. I’m in Michigan and I can attest to both successful and unsuccessful correction over all my years of driving. I would also say that 30-35mph is the sweet spot in most icy conditions. Any faster and you’ll likely spin out or hit the guy in front of you for pile ups. Any slower and the crown/bank of the road can actually pull you to the shoulder. When it’s that icy you’re better off not driving at all and just waiting it out.
I've always said, people who are also *afraid* to drive in snow should STAY HOME.
I've driven in snow for 46 years now, took my driver's test in the snow (and passed the first time) since I was a January baby.
I know how to drive in snow, it's other people who DON'T slow down, and who are afraid, that cause accidents, they need to stay off the roads or get training.
Now icy roads ? That's a bad deal for anyone to drive on.
*Folks, please slow down in bad weather, you will save lives, quite likely your own*
Or if your going to slow you won’t make it up a hill
Very useful for lots of drivers! Thanks Dan Robinson from ex-driving instructor from Canada-Ont.
I’m sad because of the fortworth pile up today
Pile-ups are the worst there is no escape your best driving skills at best will give you a softer landing maybe. If you get a panic attack you are not gonna make it. I once hit a snow white out and had no visibility for about 15 seconds I had to follow the tire tracks by feel in the snow and my worst nightmare was that I was rolling into a pile up you just have to roll through them and hope its clear.
I remember one time when I was driving back from school and I could literally feel my wheel slipping off the roadway, I looked behind me and this girl in a Honda was literally swerving side to side on the road, along with the fact that I saw 3 non fatal accidents. your car literally feels like a hockey puck. The only good thing was that the road wasn't that busy.
The literality is strong with this one.
Them TX drivers need to watch this.
I am right now hahahaha
Me watching in the car before getting ready to leave 🤣 #texas
@@CrisTina-jv2po oh boy same here
I am 🤣
Most city folk aren't Texans...they are transplants from other states like California
Thanks, we haven’t really covered this in drivers ed. a few years ago, I was coming home from work on a snowy/icy night (I worked nights) and boss wouldn’t let us leave early because it was a Friday. I nearly ended up in a ditch going downhill on a 50 mph road with turns and twists. Somehow my car wasn’t even out of alignment or damaged but I did manage to miss a pole by maybe 6-9 inches. You are 100 percent correct when you say it’s a heart stopping feeling 😅
prayers to those lost yesterday in Texas
I've been doing the wrong thing and getting very lucky. I spun completely out last night going about 30 mph when I hit some ice. I turned against the skid and lightly pumped my brakes and ended-up going across the road backwards, only stopping when I eventually slid into the curb. I was fortunate in that no one else was on the street so there was nothing to crash into.
Great video. I have FULL ON anxiety in snowy/icy conditions and slid out once. Now winters are pure hell for me.
Buy proper snow tires. Get out in a parking lot and play around. Stop being scared. Sliding is just part of driving on slick stuff and isn't difficult to deal with at all. You just have to practice it.
Think of it as tokyo drift without ruining your tires
these guys are right, you need to practice because you just experienced some sort of mini "trauma". reenacting and gaining confidence will make you not feel so anymore. good luck
practice sliding, and recovering from slides in an empty parking lot at 5 mph. then you will be able to do it when it matters most
Me too
I was in the unfortunate predicament of having to drive my friend's two-wheel drive up a steep icy hill because she was out of town. I've never been so scared to drive in my life. The car was constantly swerving and I almost drove off the road. Sometimes I felt like I was driving the car forwards while the wheels were sideways. Luckily I made it up without accidents, but this video would really have come in handy.
Have to say, that's the best tutorial of "How to correctly drive on Ice" was very informative. Thank You for taking the time to explain it.
He is right about the speed. But I'd suggest you to learn from a real professional instructor then learning some of the wrong techniques explained in this video.
I'm glad I found your channel. I wish I could have a discussion about this with a few of my loved ones that are, "crusin' for a bruisin'" as we used to say. But some people will always drive the same on dry roads as they do on wet or snowy roads. I'm hoping my newly licensed teenage son will watch and learn the principles you demonstrate here. This will be his first winter on snowy roads without an adult in the car. I appreciate that you took the time to take to make this. I learned a lot.
I don't even know why I am watching this at 3:05 in the morning. I don't even live in a cold climate. I live in Hawai'i, like wtf?
You don't get any rain at all? Same principle applies.
chrisgast I get that, but at least the streets don't freeze over.
True.
Lookup hydroplaning. Same concept in rain
BUT if hydroplaning in a car with ABS you should hit the brakes hard, and you will stop. it's not the same with ice
My first car accident was caused by a slide. I'm from Quebec so the winter weather was absolutely brutal one morning to work and it was the first time I managed to total my first car. Crazy to be able to talk about it as the accident involved two incidents as I ran into another truck. After that I learnt how to deal with slides and now have a Subaru because of the crazy bi polar weather of Quebec! Stay safe everyone.
On ice; you have no traction.
You only have a trajectory.
Line up your vector before you hit the ice.
Cross over the ice with as close to zero control input as you can manage; including turning, accelerating and decelerating.
If you do slide; keep the front wheels pointing in your intended direction.
You have a good chance of reaching the other end safely.
Plus all inputs should be done at 1/10th the intensity
was going downhill straight icy road 10mph. at. one point front of car started sliding left towards rails. i very slowly turned the steering wheel right. it briefly caught traction before i hit the rail so i didn't crush. did i do well or was i lucky?
I think you mean keep the wheels pointed in the direction that you’re actually going. That’s where a lot of people mess up by pointing the wheels where they want to go/intend to, instead of pointing the wheels towards what you’re sliding into
No traction on ice.. Tell that to all those drivning on public shortcut ice roads on the lakes of sweden :)
@@Redneckeverything In such conditions it's all about the tires. You can bet they aren't driving on American all season tires! In the US, for whatever reason (often economical) the majority of drivers, even in northern regions, insist on driving on all season tires year around. If you walk around the parking lot at the local shopping center where I live near the Canadian border in the winter, it is very predictable, newer cars (especially AWD) will have winter tires installed, but almost without fail older cars will have the same all season tires they have had on all year. Folks just can't afford two sets of tires, plus the expense of having them installed and removed every year (over 100.00 dollars). Which brings up the point, just because you have the latest and greatest AWD with top of the line winter tires, when you are out on the road in nasty conditions, you have to realize that everyone out there isn't as fortunate. Have a little patience and understanding.
When I was fifteen, I was learning how to drive on rainy conditions with my grandfather and the car slid, it was a 90 degree frozen turn and I managed to keep the car stable without even realizing that it slid... My grandfather was surprised because it was only the second time I was driving. I'm pretty sure this reflex came from video games which I used to play a lot (GTA and NFS). And when my dad gave me my own car I learned how to drift in empty parking lots so I can have a better control on cars, I really advise all new drivers to learn how to drift in empty spaces because if drifting is used correctly in can prevent more crashes than we think.
Completely agree with you. People should get to know how their car behaves in certain situations. Though I can't get my car to slide at all even though it's a V12 Mercedes from 1995. ASR immediately drops the power from rear wheels after noticing spinning thus preventing any actual sliding. ASR can also be disabled if you want to have fun. :]
Niko Pesola yeah traction control sucks good thing my mustang doesnt come with it
epiccheese911 impressive im also going to learn how to drift eventually since i live in ohio lots of snow here
Yep, NFS Most Wanted was the first place where I experienced over/understeering without realizing it. But I adapted to it when I used to game a lot and yesterday I had to put this knowledge into real-life practice and it was as if it was an instinct... And with happy end :D
Video games taught me a lot about how vehicles perform
RUclips recommends this to me every winter. I like that.
My Father took me out to practice sliding on fresh frozen snow. I had my learners permit then & his offices had several large empty parking lots where he had me speed up and then abruptly stop. I learned because he wanted me to learn not to panic. I was a single Mom who also prepared both of my children do the same. NO ONE SHOULD MISS TEACHING A PERMITTED DRIVER TO POWERSLIDE & RECOVER. This should be a bi-law especially in stars that do have the weather conditions. It’s a shame no attention is required. Thank you for providing this 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
You saved my life! A week ago i was watching this video and in the last days i have a situation to put it in test, not in snow, but instead, a long carpet of SAND in a small out on a highway, im from argentina, and here the highways doesnt have any kind of wall or contain like in the US, you just got out and roll over, and i lose the control like in this video and i made out safely! I think it was a construction truck that crashed and trow sand all over the asphalt, anyway, you saved my life! Thank you a lot!
thank you for this video it saved me yesterday, was about to spin out i was 90° turned left doing only 55km/hr in a 90 zone, remembered your words and was able to safely correct it and get home safe so thank you 10000000x for this. GO SLOW is the lesson i learned even if it means you must do 30 in a 90 with your 4 ways on snow and ice are dangerous even with winter tires. DRIVE SAFE YALL
I do it on purpose all the time. Knowing how to handle your vehicle is the key
I needed a good refresher on correcting slides.
I live in a state that gets a lot of snow/ice. I cannot emphasize how important driving slower on slick roads is along with not panicking. On highways stay in the slower lane even.
A few other things: I've found, along with going slower and not braking during a slide, that letting yourself slide ends up stopping the slide from getting worse. Give people in front of you more space or don't even be behind someone at all. If you constantly have snow, having good winter tires is a life saver!!
Driving a mid engine or rear engine car will also help teach you how to not overcorrect as these cars tend to oversteer in normal conditions
Simple thing. Find empty parking lot covered in snow and do some practice! You will see how quick u can learn to control the car in slide. Its not hard and its safe on open area without traffic. Only hour of PRACTICE can SAFE your or others LIFE ! Be safe out there. bye
Yeah, nothing like practical practice in your own vehicle on an empty lot.
Also it’s a a lot of fun
I do this every winter. It’s a lot of fun. I tell people to do that and they think I’m crazy. Last time I did it in a parking lot with a cop there and he only said do whatever you like just don’t hit my car. lol
good idea. I really should do this but tbh, I just don't drive when it snows bad outside
That's great advice but not comparable to doing 60 and losing the rearend
SLOW DOWN MAN
Your life is worth more than the 10 minutes you're gonna shave off getting home by going faster
And if you happen to hit a patch of ice, even accounting for the conditions with the appropriate speeds, you still run the risk of slipping. It doesn’t matter. Learning to control it is absolutely key.
@@DarrenPersad some people don't realize that. Even walking on an ice at speed 2mph you can't control your body.
@Darren Persad true I slid @ 90mph after hitting an ice patch on a bridge somehow I corrected it and I continued on my way at 40mph.
One time I slid and then put the car in reverse and jammed the gas and that saved my life
Not to mention the money you’ll have to spend in repairs and increased insurance cost, or in a really unfortunate case, the money paid back to the lean holder despite not even having the vehicle anymore.
Thank you for clarifying that you're supposed to turn into the slide based on which direction the REAR of your car is turning. I remember so much from my written exam as a teen, and one thing I remember is that (at least where I'm from and when I took it years ago) they don't clarify that your turn is based on the REAR end of your vehicle!