I am so thankful for people like Andrew Doyle and Jordan Peterson. We all have to find the courage to articulate our views thoughtfully and fearlessly. What is happening now is more grave than many people can fathom.
.., than anyone can fathom. 100%, passing over woke self district disorder, ch--a, Putler, those of a 'certain rel-----s so called faith', when th dumb acceptance of AI arose, ... ..., what was a 50/50% chance the current entire global human civilisation could survive, it all went a bit abstract. Hm, keep the faith! 🇺🇲🇬🇧🌎🌍🌏
What's worse is many of those so-called "adults" are actively encouraging children to scream their imaginations as reality and then have the audacity to believe that that powder keg won't blowback on them.
@@zacharyshinder940 true, that !. As a child I was taught "Where breathes a man with soul so dead, who never to himself hath said "This is my own, my native land ?". Whose heart hath ne'er within him burned as home his footsteps he hath turned from wandering on a foreign strand ?. If such there breathe, Go, mark him well. For him no minstrel raptures swell. High though his titles, proud his name, boundless his wealth as wish can claim. Disspite those titles, power and pelf, the wretch, concentered all in SELF and doubly dying shall go down to the vile dust from wince he sprung, Unwept, unhonored and unsung !." Kids are not taught the great works now.
Absolutely. And it will make a generation of unhappy, unsure, wrong footed adults because all children crave authority and to be directed, to feel safe in a known world, they do not want to be in charge, no matter how much they may profess otherwise.
One of Dr Peterson’s best recent conversations. Andrew Doyle is more than able to keep up with Jordan’s ideas AND push back, off the cuff, with new ideas that move the conversation along in ways that few of his interviewees can achieve. I feel I could watch this one again, which is rare.
Andrew Doyle: "When I was studying as an undergraduate for English literature, you basically got the highest marks if you problematised texts: if you went through a play and teased out the homophobic elements, or the racist elements. You'd get rewarded, almost as if you were a kind of moral detective" Or a pet dog, performing tricks for treats.
When Communists try to denigrate soldiers of non-communist countries, they used to call them "running dogs." Look at the noisy student protestors working to silence any opponents of wokeism. Good little attack dogs. Good doggies!
@@oambitiousone7100 But they also gave us John Oliver, Prince Harry, and James Corden. Guess ya gotta take the good with the bad, the really, really bad.
Andrew’s book The New Puritans was the single best and most accessible distillation of our current cultural milieu. Just imagine having teachers this good.
I read that one so quickly. I would add The Parasitic Mind by Gad Saad, I read that one in 3 days. I usually read several books at a time as I have a short attention span but I read that one straight.
So not like the growing general #'s of those at places like berkley? If so yes, it would do immense positives for society if more centrist, with leanings one way or the other, teachers & professors were to push out the insanity-only types. Hell, even self-defining conservatives can and do have somewhat open minds about supposed controversial topics. Might not go in totally but will often agree to a compromise. Imo, too many compromises have been either given or bought and things just kept going farther left. Now, finally some are saying No & having No compromise to offer. Can't blame though, there is a too-far on some things. As in the left's insistence of including adult hookup apps and illustrations in the sex-ed books pushed into kindergarten children's libraries.
@@frankgradus9474 Loved that article. The gay rights movement has been completely hijacked and I'm optimistic that the man on the Clapham omnibus is starting to notice.
This is a terrifying dialogue that is critically accurate in the way in which it identies the dreadful pathologies of woke culture; we badly need to have more discussions like this.
Woke culture, and especially its inclusion into the LGBT scene has only made everything worse. A psychopath or sociopath across the alley appears to have been adopting cats from a local shelter and killing them to satisfy his extreme pathological insanity and he is shielded because he also engages in gay sex. My prescience tells me he'll be lynched soon.
@dalelerette206 True. There is usually a decision to bargain with the devil, to speed the cause along. The temptation to forgo right and wrong is encouraged by an unrealistic claim of desperate need, something that is also often the result of promotional propaganda.
I can always tell when I'm engaged listening to a conversation like this: if I start searching google for references and then reach for my notebook and pencil, I'm all in. You got me with this one. Well done, my thanks to you both.
Thinking is the end of any system=any ideology that serves a particular purpose of the system rules subjugation of humanity and individuals for material benefits=exploitation and oppression {thereby any system be it communism, Fascism or capitalism, serves as an utility of rule, exploitation, abuse of Humanity, and oppression}¶∆
I think it could be amended to something like ‘thinking clearly, playing devils advocate and seeing an issue from multiple sides .. is the death of ideology.’ That’s what he means. It’s just not quite terse enough to have the brevity for a profound soundbite haha. It’s like the somewhat tongue in cheek Hitchens’ razor, borrowing from Occam’s setup, on religious claims - ‘whatever can be asserted without evidence, can be refuted without evidence’. We know in practical debate this doesn’t work fully, but Hitch knows what he means and we know what he means in the round. Quotes and sound bites that maintain longevity are an indication to a wider maxim of how to behave or a wider claim on truth, not a complete encapsulation of such.
This was a great discussion. Showing the truth that if we talk about our views and stances, we have more in common and agreement than otherwise made to believe by those in power.
I’m so moved by this discussion- I have worked throughout my career to bring the canon to young minds- to help them to appreciate the beauty, complexity and transcendence of literature. Lately I feel as if no one is interested, no one wants to read or know. The gathering darkness to shut down, denigrate and replace with worthless pap is terrifying. Thank you for making me hope- I will try to remember your discussion on humility and bravery when I’m frightened and want to be silent. Thank you for your amazing minds and wonderful conversation
There is not enough praise to heap upon this podcast and the brilliant conversations that result. Watching two very smart, very well informed scholars discuss vital issues in a free-form fashion is among the most fascinating thing I've experienced. This is one thing I thank big tech for bringing to us. For all its faults, social media has been, in my opinion, a tremendous benefit for bringing these amazing conversations to the masses, and for generating debate about what social media gets wrong and why..
Jordan and Andrew are exactly right, we're dealing with a totalizing, gnostic religion. James Lindsay has an entire channel built on this stuff, I highly recommend it
@dalelerette206 You have a great point that I'd like to add to. Charity without showboating is helpful to the needy, but only ever up to a point, and nowadays is often self aggrandizing and actually selfish, as you've pointed out. Helping the needy to achieve independence from charity and perhaps be in a good position to help others in turn is the real goal. The teachings of Christ seem to be highly effective, even if you're a "cold calculating atheist scientist" type. You just have to recognize them as such, otherwise you risk becoming like Sam Harris - smart and competent but morally hollow. That hollow is where this gnostic religion will find a home and fester.
Torasco v. Watkins in 1961 the ruling opinion noted that non-religious groups had been given religious exemptions. Thus was born the idea that secular humanism was actually a religion. They certainly can be as virulent as marauding hordes of fanatics during the dark ages conducting some of the worst atrocities in the west before the 20th century against those that didn't think just like them.
Iain McGilchrist has hit the nail on its head (in The Master and His Emissary). To paraphrase him "The rational mind is a faithful servant, the intuitive mind is a sacred gift. We have created a society that honours the servant".
He adds : "This is what the world would look like If the emissary betrayed the master. It's hard to resist the conclusion that his goal is within sight". (p.434).
I’m a 26 years old Iraqi clinical pharmacist. My name is Serraa Khaphají. And this is a message to Dr. Peterson. I’ve been a student of your teachings since 2017, and I cannot help but agree with the majority of what you teach, share, voice, and believe. The reason that got me to comment today is this: I’ve overheard my parents watching an Iraqi interview between a tv show host and an activist, discussing the concept of the ‘social gender’, and the conspicuous opinion -now- that gender includes the social, psychological, cultural and behavioral aspects of both biological genders and ‘supposedly’ other gender-identity. This ideology is being openly discussed here in Iraq, on the political front, but not yet socially. We Iraqis have the not-so-intellectual attitude to care about ‘trend’ a little bit more than necessary, and to be entirely honest, I am terrified. Iraq has been the closest thing to the host of multi-angled totalitarian despotism ever since 1978, or maybe before that. Politically, religiously, and socially, Iraq has been abused far more than what’s imaginable, and it is not getting any better, not with this. Why? Is the Left absolutely scared of their ‘theory’ falling out of proportion to the point they have to push it to another country to support it? Why this? People here have been confused as it is about raising their children since the 80s, and I know it never looked like it was getting any better (at least across my personal lifespan), but this? This where our politics still doesn’t accept homosexuality? I always agree with your notion about specifying a place to stay the hell away from, I never thought though, that this place would be my country, not to this extent. I hope this gets discussed by intellects like you, who search and seek the truth, and I hope you see this, because truly, never have I felt before to this degree, that things are spilling uncontrollably out of hands. Thank you…
The bottom line honest truthful reality is that there is a portion of rulers that are insane, evil, selfish, scammers, liars, abusers, poison users to gain advatages over others, thieves, slave classes keepers, abusers and torturing killers. They're bribing others to do insane bad to terrible things that are very bad to humaity and the earth. Everyone knows if you do horrible things you get punished or eventually will be locked up or executed to protect children, adults, the elderly, humaity as a whole and the earths survival timeline. Don't fool others and yourselves that people are not doing huge amounts of bad to terrible things and hiding behind every deception, all the tricks & scams they can come up by with, fear threats terrorism, violating human rights, violating real working laws constantly and their bribed evil helpers get paid or tricked and fear threatened into helping or allowing it. Just stop violating human rights and matching always working in history congruent laws to make insane nonsense end. Pass it on on please and thank you!
So, you think you got that from somebody who can seriously talk about redistributing income? This is an authoritarian who has not got the courage of his evil. He wants you to compliment him on his moderateness.
@@fritznienimplacable humor has flawed too few who have failed to see the funny side of duped because it is too relished blankly vapidly and at a childish rate of dishonest contenptibility...I would hand it over to my own guarantees if I thought human technology had no viable exchange.
One thing, I’m a scientist, I do research at a major university in the US. I know many other scientists who think as I do. We will not let our professions go down without a fight
Daily Wire crew, you did an amazing job! The cinematography, lighting, audio, and design composition draw the viewer into a beauty which is almost surreal. The responsiveness of the latency is minimal to the point of nonexistence, so much so that these two were able to have a boisterous back-and-forth at full speed without us in the audience noticing a lag. What a masterpiece, Bravo!
Yeah but the failure to pursue critical thinking think philosophy and a thorough grasp of history. Literary fiction and poetry are more hobbies than an actual education. Doing a minor in one of those subjects would be fine, but pursuing a PhD in Renaissance Literature or some such degree, it an immense waste of time.
Hello Jordan, I only recently found your site and I watched a couple of your videos over the past couple days and I just wanted to thank you. I find you to be extremely intelligent, thoughtful, introspective, and open minded and willing to thoughtfully consider other viewpoints. I sincerely appreciate the platform you have created, one that hopefully gets people, thinking, and questioning, and looking at the world differently. In a world as divided, as ours is now what you were doing is so very needed an important and I thank you.
The sharpest brick in the tree dude. For true!! Love what you’re doing here, genuinely. Laughter is the light that pierces through darkness. So thank you 🙏🏼
I watch your videos for guidance and or just information. People hate talking and especially listening. I've dealt with mental health issues and you sir has help me and I'm not sure how. God bless Jordan Petterson .
What an absolutely fascinating discussion from two very thoughtful and intelligent people. It gives me hope that we will overcome the craziness that the world has become. Thank you.
Andrew's clarity of thought and ability to articulate this clearly matches that of Jordan, making for an absorbing, thought-provoking and thoroughly entertaining discussion. Bravo gentlemen 👏
Dr Peterson’s recent podcasts have been mindblowingly informative, provocative, and insightful. Jordan, if you ever read this, I want you to know I truly appreciate the work you do
A fabulous podcast as I love Andrew Doyle. I totally agree with his views on left and right. After working in academia all my life and considered myself left wing until the woke movement made it about imposing their infantile ideologies on everyone else. I now feel politically homeless and very disengaged.
The issue with the left is the lies it tells itself. It claims to be about helping the weakest in society get back on their feet and not catering to the will of the powerful. This sounds like something noble. It's hard to argue against But reality is in every single way Instead it is about celebrating weakness and tearing anyone strong down. Even if the weak are just pretending or the strong just seem that way on paper
What a brilliant conversation. Ask each other questions. Listen to each other. Challenge each other. In the spirit of shared dialogue. Thank you both. Wonderful.
I'm very happy i got the DW membership a while ago because I am absolutely fascinated by this conversation! You two bring out excellent thinking in one another. Well done!
Thank you Jordan for bringing Andrew onto the show. It’s inspiring to see two people with, in some ways, very different political opinions elucidate the truth in a respectful, honorable manner. “That’s how people with different opinions settle their opinions in a civil society.”
@@pgronemeier They found common ground on a wide variety of issues. Unlike the puritanical Leftoids, mature adults don't HAVE to control every little belief of other people. That would be fascist. Authoritarian. Totalitarian.
@@pgronemeier I think they found common ground on many things and took into account each others perspectives. Two intelligent men with varying views have typically been able to sort out their differences and meet somewhere in the middle. The inability to communicate and compromise for the betterment of society is a rather new ill that’s fallen particularly hard on the west through ideologues. The quicker people recognize it for what it is and who is controlling their very thoughts, the easier it will be for us as a society to stop the dehumanizing of any one group. I’d like to believe everyone is smarter than to allow that, although lately it’s been difficult to tell.
@@free2beemee No. ONE intelligent man BECAUSE he was able to 'see the light'. The other man is not. MAYBE in time. But not now. The word "compromise" is if you want McDonald's. I want burger king. And we COMPROMISE on Wendy's. One SHOULDN'T compromise between right and wrong/good and evil. "Common ground" is if we agree we both like air. Like I posted with my own comment, I stopped this at the 4 minute mark. There was no need to see people agree to disagree. It sounds scholarly. But it solved nothing!
Just like one can disagree with what I just said. I know I'm right. One might know I'm wrong. Talking together for 2 hours isn't going to convince either one of us. So it 'solved' nothing
Brilliant conversation. As someone with orthodox Christian views on human sexuality I am intruiged by how many contemporary voices of wisdom are coming from gay men. I am deeply thankful for Andrew Doyle's insight and courage and for the depth of this discussion.
And yet, he has no solutions because he still refuses to believe in God and still believes in Gay marriage and the normalizing of the fringe and worshipping art. He is unable to accept that his views are the problem.
@@Blaise45 Belief isn't a choice. You don't choose whether you find arguments convincing or not. It just happens in your brain. Of course, you could choose to look solely at arguments for one side of an issue, avoiding arguments for other sides, and in that way bias yourself towards belief on that side. But it's a dishonest belief in that case. For an honest belief, the strength of the arguments matters (and varies based on the individual mind, due to differing biology and environment/history).
@steve112285 - of course, another anti-human leftist. You really like to support each other. Like I said, your idea that humans can not choose is truly pitiable. Not much else say, I lifted both of you in prayer.
What a fantastic discussion. It’s nice to listen to level headed, intelligent individuals discuss the problems we’re facing as a community, nation, even many parts of the world. Strange times, indeed.
This was a wonderful, spectacular and very important conversation. We should be talking about these issues with this amount of depth, playfulness and openness. I enjoyed this conversation so much, thank you both for this… what is the word, I don’t want to say “food for thought” because I feel it was at least a feast, but more like ambrosia or something of the sort… 😂 truly amazing and highly enjoyable, one of my favorite for sure ❤
I fell to sleep watching something else and woke up just as this video was starting. Can't believe it has taken me a year to become aware that a conversation between you two existed on here. Great talk. Perfect balance of profundity and conviviality. Thank you both.
Starting a discussion, working through differences in thought, and then continuing to explore the twists and turns is so enlighteming. Best way to start the day!
This was a very informative video I am fisherman from Nova Scotia I am a Christian and believe in traditional morals and values .I wish to help young people sober up and get off drugs most people these days alot focus is on the academic side of Rehabilitation or viewing covid 19 as the only problem but among young people Drugs are at epidemic levels across Canada as well world wide regardless of political positions or opinions us young people look for hopeful inspiration for positive change. Christian views are often repressed or misrepresented.Your explanation of Cain and Able has a discipline and expectations that most young people without Grace and clear instruction don't receive .this video refers to young people as infant and us trying in infancy I agree with your statements. My opinion In family dinamics if a baby tries to walk we congratulate the babe for trying evan if they fall I believe as Christians we should always share the same love and Grace when I consider other concepts of Faith such as the Fear of the Lord I understand it as being movtivated to love my neighbours and Love God by not misrepresenting his love and never deny his Grace of new beginnings.When I see older folks using the Bible to condemn it demonstrates they missed the message of the Golden Rule or the Heart of the law (justice,Mercy and Good Faith) I pray all I going good for you and thank you for your wisdom on modern times challenging subjects ❤Brady Ring, Nova Scotia .in future videos could you please explain in more practical approaches to help young people addressing drugs personally Christianity helped me with letting go of Alcohol and other habits .How has traditional Christian views impacted you with helping young people with drugs? I ask because I really wanna help . I lost a bunch of friends to overdose and other issues related to intoxication (DUI) I don't ever wanna be a social justice warrior or misrepresented by other terms related .thanks for your time I recommend the Book written by "David Wilkerson " "the Cross and SwitchBlade" I found his testimony inspiring helping young people like me I'm age 29 ❤❤❤God Bless ❤❤❤
This is truly beautiful, Brady. I can feel the Holy Spirit radiating His light from your comment. I am adding you and your mission to my daily prayer list. God is moving with and through you! Praise God. Your comment really encouraged me. - your sister in Christ, K
Brady Ring, you might also or alternatively consider being able provide some part of support for young men who have escaped transition ( detransitioners). I can imagine some kind of program including boats and fishing might be great as part of that.
Hello Brady, I work in a Christian rehab centre. It has the big advantage that the guys, mostly coming off drugs, are completely removed from the world - no drugs, no tobacco, nothing, and are subject to the disciplines of communal life including work. Gradually many of the guys begin to accept fundamental Bible truths and they slowly begin to change. Those who stick the process leave as new men. In your situation though, it probably helps to know that drugs are not the main problem - drugs are the symptom of emotional turmoil, and the emotional turmoil in the end is a symptom of being spiritually lost. Help needs to be applied at all three levels - physical (get off drugs), emotional (get some stability and kindness; deal with anger), and spiritual (get hold of some truth). I notice that you are 29. You would be amazed how many guys reach the end of the road and look for help at around the age of 28. That's when they find that life is not working, and suddenly their brains are mature enough to see this.
Such an interesting discussion! So many times I wanted to be in there sharing thoughts! I agree with your ideas on Macbeth- Studied it in high school as a teenage girl and was rather horrified at the subconscious fear that he could be me…. Later it took me realizing my actions were ‘worthy of hell’ to be saved. We really have awful and wonderful potential in us.
1:20:46 I was traumatised by the idea of the Holocaust when I was young. I had dreams about it and had to keep it in a space at the back of my mind. While I had some therapy during my 20's, the therapist posited the idea that maybe I was on the other side of the fence. One of the most enlightening things anybody ever said to me.
According to James Lindsay, woke communism isn't just metaphorically a religion. Karl Marx's teachings are actually based on Hegel's teachings, which are based on gnosticism and hermeticism, the latter of which is an ancient Greek religion that has esoterically survived to this day.
@@michaelkinville177 It's likely Jordan knows. He had James on his podcast recently. Andrew referred to wokism as analogous to a religion. I think he's hung up on the fact that they don't believe in God. Buddhists don't believe in God. It's not a requirement for a religion.
Such a wonderful conversation! Thank you to you both 🙏 The importance of great art in all of its forms shouldn't be undervalued. This has been somewhat lost in modern western culture . . . the potential outcome is devastating.
This has been one of your best ever episodes, in my opinion. If I could choose a single conversation to beam into the minds of everyone in the Western world, this would be a strong contender.
@@thosoz3431 As Andrew says at the beginning of the conversation - "left", "right" have become apparently meaningless labels these days. I considered myself liberal conservative, I'm a Christian - and I stand by Andrew 100%.
Loved the whole conversation. I would recommend listening to this to everyone I don't care what side of religion or politics you are on everyone if they have the capacity to use an open mind you will be enriched by it. Again thanks for speaking up and not being afraid to speak the truth.
Incredible discussion! (The adults have gone along with the childish delusions in a similar situation as the Salem witch trials - I’ve felt that to be true for a long time!)
I didn't know he had a doctorate in English literature before this interview. Always liked the guy as a comedian and a commenter on social issues. This is your grandparents gay dude.
When I was a child (80s) I was confronted with a thread "When I am done with you, you won't even know if you are a girl or boy anymore!" and though "What can one do to me that I don't even know about me being girl or boy anymore???" Now I understand better that it is even possible to do such a thing to a whole generation.
Andrew, I've said it before after your Trig YT, you're just a brilliant, caring, free, studied, articulate mind. The best social commentator. Thanks to JP (who I've also seen live) for having you and risking having your brilliance exposed as exceeding even his 😊. Invaluable episode for societal future. At the same time we do also need a positive, coherent political vision for freedom and fairness and care now, addressing the genuine concerns of the left and needs of the poor/bullied.
"They don't want to think, thinking is the death of ideology. " Love that!
Thats so good a quote
I am so thankful for people like Andrew Doyle and Jordan Peterson. We all have to find the courage to articulate our views thoughtfully and fearlessly. What is happening now is more grave than many people can fathom.
.., than anyone can fathom.
100%, passing over woke self district disorder, ch--a, Putler, those of a 'certain rel-----s so called faith', when th dumb acceptance of AI arose, ...
..., what was a 50/50% chance the current entire global human civilisation could survive, it all went a bit abstract.
Hm, keep the faith!
🇺🇲🇬🇧🌎🌍🌏
use you briain
You dont need courage you just need a brain and truth
@@rs.7610 well a lot of people are not speaking up and a big part of that is lack of courage.
Well said
"The adults have capitulated to the screaming children" Andrew Dolye. Likely the best synopsis of the current world.
What's worse is many of those so-called "adults" are actively encouraging children to scream their imaginations as reality and then have the audacity to believe that that powder keg won't blowback on them.
Great dialog here ..
@@zacharyshinder940 true, that !. As a child I was taught "Where breathes a man with soul so dead, who never to himself hath said
"This is my own, my native land ?".
Whose heart hath ne'er within him burned as home his footsteps he hath turned from wandering on a foreign strand ?. If such there breathe, Go, mark him well. For him no minstrel raptures swell.
High though his titles, proud his name, boundless his wealth as wish can claim.
Disspite those titles, power and pelf, the wretch, concentered all in SELF and doubly dying shall go down to the vile dust from wince he sprung, Unwept,
unhonored and unsung !."
Kids are not taught the great works now.
@persnipoles
So late stage that its not liberalism anymore, but in many major ways the opposite.
Absolutely. And it will make a generation of unhappy, unsure, wrong footed adults because all children crave authority and to be directed, to feel safe in a known world, they do not want to be in charge, no matter how much they may profess otherwise.
One of Dr Peterson’s best recent conversations. Andrew Doyle is more than able to keep up with Jordan’s ideas AND push back, off the cuff, with new ideas that move the conversation along in ways that few of his interviewees can achieve. I feel I could watch this one again, which is rare.
It felt fresh to see this little pushes from the guest. Quite pleasent, and more dynamic conversation.
That's the mark of good conversation.
Couldn’t agree more. I’ve read the New Puritans which is great…but this conversation has really given me even more respect for Andrew.
Doyle is streets ahead of Peterson, intellectually.
Totally agree. Andrew Doyle is brilliant, so well read and articulate.
Andrew Doyle: "When I was studying as an undergraduate for English literature, you basically got the highest marks if you problematised texts: if you went through a play and teased out the homophobic elements, or the racist elements. You'd get rewarded, almost as if you were a kind of moral detective"
Or a pet dog, performing tricks for treats.
good point, like 'positive reinforcement' even when performing negative acts
Why I refuse to go back to school for a Masters. I'm not paying tens of thousands and breaking a sweat for years for some woke indoctrination garbage!
Yeah, both
@@oliakrist8648 why the kidding? is that not the exact literal breakdown of, in addition to being an organic display of the original comment?
When Communists try to denigrate soldiers of non-communist countries, they used to call them "running dogs." Look at the noisy student protestors working to silence any opponents of wokeism. Good little attack dogs. Good doggies!
I’m from the UK , and I’m very proud of Andrew Doyle !
Andrew Doyle is a real gem.
You give us Doyle. Douglas Murray, Russel Brand, Ricky Gervais, John Cleese…
@@oambitiousone7100 Brendan O'Neill, GB News, spiked podcast
@@oambitiousone7100 But they also gave us John Oliver, Prince Harry, and James Corden. Guess ya gotta take the good with the bad, the really, really bad.
Plus Kelly Jay Keen, Helen Joyce & Kathleen Stock.
Andrew’s book The New Puritans was the single best and most accessible distillation of our current cultural milieu. Just imagine having teachers this good.
Reading it now can’t wait ..
I read that one so quickly. I would add The Parasitic Mind by Gad Saad, I read that one in 3 days. I usually read several books at a time as I have a short attention span but I read that one straight.
So not like the growing general #'s of those at places like berkley? If so yes, it would do immense positives for society if more centrist, with leanings one way or the other, teachers & professors were to push out the insanity-only types. Hell, even self-defining conservatives can and do have somewhat open minds about supposed controversial topics. Might not go in totally but will often agree to a compromise. Imo, too many compromises have been either given or bought and things just kept going farther left. Now, finally some are saying No & having No compromise to offer. Can't blame though, there is a too-far on some things. As in the left's insistence of including adult hookup apps and illustrations in the sex-ed books pushed into kindergarten children's libraries.
Is his display in this interview indicative of the level of his book?
Agreed. What’s Our Problem by Tim Urban is also fantastic!
I only discovered Andrew Doyle last week, and have been binging on his wisdom for days. Seeing rhis appear on my feed delights me immeasurably.
Google and read his recent article about pride.
Andrew is a gem 💎 ✨️
@@frankgradus9474 Loved that article. The gay rights movement has been completely hijacked and I'm optimistic that the man on the Clapham omnibus is starting to notice.
@@frankgradus9474 The left are terrible, but it doesn't mean we should make gay marriage illegal, don't you agree?
This is a terrifying dialogue that is critically accurate in the way in which it identies the dreadful pathologies of woke culture; we badly need to have more discussions like this.
Thank you for articulating exactly what I was thinking!
The thing about "woke" culture is as soon as you push back, they reveal themselves to be nothing but petulant, spoiled brats.
I thoroughly agree.
Woke culture, and especially its inclusion into the LGBT scene has only made everything worse. A psychopath or sociopath across the alley appears to have been adopting cats from a local shelter and killing them to satisfy his extreme pathological insanity and he is shielded because he also engages in gay sex. My prescience tells me he'll be lynched soon.
@dalelerette206 True. There is usually a decision to bargain with the devil, to speed the cause along. The temptation to forgo right and wrong is encouraged by an unrealistic claim of desperate need, something that is also often the result of promotional propaganda.
I can always tell when I'm engaged listening to a conversation like this: if I start searching google for references and then reach for my notebook and pencil, I'm all in. You got me with this one. Well done, my thanks to you both.
"Thinking is the death of ideology."
- Andrew Doyle
@@kimdejbjergjensen2201aaahhh, I see what you did there…
I definitely wrote this down too. So simple & profound
Thinking is the end of any system=any ideology that serves a particular purpose of the system rules subjugation of humanity and individuals for material benefits=exploitation and oppression {thereby any system be it communism, Fascism or capitalism, serves as an utility of rule, exploitation, abuse of Humanity, and oppression}¶∆
@@kimdejbjergjensen2201agreed. Dumb comment from a not very thoughtful man. So sad that people think that insightful
I think it could be amended to something like ‘thinking clearly, playing devils advocate and seeing an issue from multiple sides .. is the death of ideology.’ That’s what he means. It’s just not quite terse enough to have the brevity for a profound soundbite haha.
It’s like the somewhat tongue in cheek Hitchens’ razor, borrowing from Occam’s setup, on religious claims - ‘whatever can be asserted without evidence, can be refuted without evidence’. We know in practical debate this doesn’t work fully, but Hitch knows what he means and we know what he means in the round. Quotes and sound bites that maintain longevity are an indication to a wider maxim of how to behave or a wider claim on truth, not a complete encapsulation of such.
This was a great discussion. Showing the truth that if we talk about our views and stances, we have more in common and agreement than otherwise made to believe by those in power.
Communist will pretend friend and stab you behind Rob you, while Nazi capitalist will rob you openly... that is so true Jordan !
This is gold for the intellect and common sense. I shan't say more than thank you Dr. Peterson. Truly.
use you briain
By their fruits you shall know them 🇳🇬
Posh .. he used that term .. posh ...yep .. lol the topics here are very relevant to today's woke social justice societal affects ..
@@priceisright1580People who hold luxury beliefs in other words. This is a top down revolution. It is being imposed.
@loubieloujones5698 don't look now everyone is under attack ..
I’m so moved by this discussion- I have worked throughout my career to bring the canon to young minds- to help them to appreciate the beauty, complexity and transcendence of literature. Lately I feel as if no one is interested, no one wants to read or know. The gathering darkness to shut down, denigrate and replace with worthless pap is terrifying. Thank you for making me hope- I will try to remember your discussion on humility and bravery when I’m frightened and want to be silent. Thank you for your amazing minds and wonderful conversation
Yeah, you know book reading is uncommon, but it was also before now. I didn't know anybody who voluntarily read and never mentioned the books I read.
There is not enough praise to heap upon this podcast and the brilliant conversations that result. Watching two very smart, very well informed scholars discuss vital issues in a free-form fashion is among the most fascinating thing I've experienced. This is one thing I thank big tech for bringing to us. For all its faults, social media has been, in my opinion, a tremendous benefit for bringing these amazing conversations to the masses, and for generating debate about what social media gets wrong and why..
So true!
Jordan and Andrew are are treat to listen to. We are richer for them being around!
And Thankyou too for your comments.
Every time I see a new video from JP I get really excited! Listening now as I do my housework. 💕
Jordan and Andrew are exactly right, we're dealing with a totalizing, gnostic religion. James Lindsay has an entire channel built on this stuff, I highly recommend it
I've listened to most of James Lindsay's talks on Gnostic Leftism and I couldn't agree more!
They are often saying the opposite thing. How can they both be right?
@dalelerette206 You have a great point that I'd like to add to. Charity without showboating is helpful to the needy, but only ever up to a point, and nowadays is often self aggrandizing and actually selfish, as you've pointed out. Helping the needy to achieve independence from charity and perhaps be in a good position to help others in turn is the real goal.
The teachings of Christ seem to be highly effective, even if you're a "cold calculating atheist scientist" type. You just have to recognize them as such, otherwise you risk becoming like Sam Harris - smart and competent but morally hollow. That hollow is where this gnostic religion will find a home and fester.
@@BurghezulDjentilom give the man a fish you feed him for a day, teach him to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.
Torasco v. Watkins in 1961 the ruling opinion noted that non-religious groups had been given religious exemptions. Thus was born the idea that secular humanism was actually a religion. They certainly can be as virulent as marauding hordes of fanatics during the dark ages conducting some of the worst atrocities in the west before the 20th century against those that didn't think just like them.
Iain McGilchrist has hit the nail on its head (in The Master and His Emissary). To paraphrase him "The rational mind is a faithful servant, the intuitive mind is a sacred gift. We have created a society that honours the servant".
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;3++£;¢°¥✓$, yes!!!
He adds :
"This is what the world would look like If the emissary betrayed the master. It's hard to resist the conclusion that his goal is within sight".
(p.434).
🎯👏💫
One of your best episodes! Thank you, Jordan and Andrew. This is GOLD for humanity
Indeed gold!
And better than the other kind!!
Many fold!!!
I’m a 26 years old Iraqi clinical pharmacist. My name is Serraa Khaphají. And this is a message to Dr. Peterson.
I’ve been a student of your teachings since 2017, and I cannot help but agree with the majority of what you teach, share, voice, and believe. The reason that got me to comment today is this: I’ve overheard my parents watching an Iraqi interview between a tv show host and an activist, discussing the concept of the ‘social gender’, and the conspicuous opinion -now- that gender includes the social, psychological, cultural and behavioral aspects of both biological genders and ‘supposedly’ other gender-identity. This ideology is being openly discussed here in Iraq, on the political front, but not yet socially. We Iraqis have the not-so-intellectual attitude to care about ‘trend’ a little bit more than necessary, and to be entirely honest, I am terrified.
Iraq has been the closest thing to the host of multi-angled totalitarian despotism ever since 1978, or maybe before that. Politically, religiously, and socially, Iraq has been abused far more than what’s imaginable, and it is not getting any better, not with this. Why? Is the Left absolutely scared of their ‘theory’ falling out of proportion to the point they have to push it to another country to support it? Why this? People here have been confused as it is about raising their children since the 80s, and I know it never looked like it was getting any better (at least across my personal lifespan), but this? This where our politics still doesn’t accept homosexuality?
I always agree with your notion about specifying a place to stay the hell away from, I never thought though, that this place would be my country, not to this extent.
I hope this gets discussed by intellects like you, who search and seek the truth, and I hope you see this, because truly, never have I felt before to this degree, that things are spilling uncontrollably out of hands.
Thank you…
It is absolutely concerning and needs to be pushed back with strength of intellectual common sense
I have read Doyle’s The New Puritans a few times since its release. It’s brilliant.
It’s wonderful to listen to a grounded and sane discussion.
Couldn't agree more!
The bottom line honest truthful reality is that there is a portion of rulers that are insane, evil, selfish, scammers, liars, abusers, poison users to gain advatages over others, thieves, slave classes keepers, abusers and torturing killers.
They're bribing others to do insane bad to terrible things that are very bad to humaity and the earth. Everyone knows if you do horrible things you get punished or eventually will be locked up or executed to protect children, adults, the elderly, humaity as a whole and the earths survival timeline. Don't fool others and yourselves that people are not doing huge amounts of bad to terrible things and hiding behind every deception, all the tricks & scams they can come up by with, fear threats terrorism, violating human rights, violating real working laws constantly and their bribed evil helpers get paid or tricked and fear threatened into helping or allowing it.
Just stop violating human rights and matching always working in history congruent laws to make insane nonsense end. Pass it on on please and thank you!
So, you think you got that from somebody who can seriously talk about redistributing income? This is an authoritarian who has not got the courage of his evil. He wants you to compliment him on his moderateness.
Yes! Medicine! To all the senses!!
@@fritznienimplacable humor has flawed too few who have failed to see the funny side of duped because it is too relished blankly vapidly and at a childish rate of dishonest contenptibility...I would hand it over to my own guarantees if I thought human technology had no viable exchange.
One thing, I’m a scientist, I do research at a major university in the US. I know many other scientists who think as I do. We will not let our professions go down without a fight
Good for you
One honest scientist is too many
Keep up the good work, be truthful always
It brings so much hope to humanity and existence
Make it a good fight, whatever you do. Good luck
It’s already over for science.
This conversation is somewhat an art in itself.
Andrew Doyle is the thought leader we need to hear more of - especially in conversation and intelligent debate. 👏👏👏
It's great to have both of you on the side of humanity. Without you the current madness would feel far more insufferable and desperate.
Daily Wire crew, you did an amazing job!
The cinematography, lighting, audio, and design composition draw the viewer into a beauty which is almost surreal.
The responsiveness of the latency is minimal to the point of nonexistence, so much so that these two were able to have a boisterous back-and-forth at full speed without us in the audience noticing a lag.
What a masterpiece, Bravo!
Didn't you say the same thing about a video of an airplane crash last week...?
Yes, the daily wire crew are really on top of their game
I could have listened to an extended conversation for hours. Fantastic program!
Andrew Doyle supremely exemplifies what a good liberal arts education was supposed to do. He makes a fantastic interlocutor for Jordan Peterson.
I wish Jordan wasn't so willing to interrupt him at every turn. Brilliant chat though.
Yeah but the failure to pursue critical thinking think philosophy and a thorough grasp of history. Literary fiction and poetry are more hobbies than an actual education. Doing a minor in one of those subjects would be fine, but pursuing a PhD in Renaissance Literature or some such degree, it an immense waste of time.
@@ColonelHoganStalag13 Says the ultimate philistine.
@@ColonelHoganStalag13 It sounds like you’re saying the study of Art is a waste of time. And you’re totally wrong.
Hello Jordan, I only recently found your site and I watched a couple of your videos over the past couple days and I just wanted to thank you. I find you to be extremely intelligent, thoughtful, introspective, and open minded and willing to thoughtfully consider other viewpoints. I sincerely appreciate the platform you have created, one that hopefully gets people, thinking, and questioning, and looking at the world differently. In a world as divided, as ours is now what you were doing is so very needed an important and I thank you.
The sharpest brick in the tree dude. For true!!
Love what you’re doing here, genuinely. Laughter is the light that pierces through darkness. So thank you 🙏🏼
I watch your videos for guidance and or just information. People hate talking and especially listening. I've dealt with mental health issues and you sir has help me and I'm not sure how. God bless Jordan Petterson .
Jordan has a great interview style. And I really enjoy his truths.
My friend , be patient it takes time to learn and gain wisdom. Each new understanding more valuable than diamonds and gold.
Gratifying to read the comments and see how many people appreciate and are hungry for these type of conversations.
What an absolutely fascinating discussion from two very thoughtful and intelligent people. It gives me hope that we will overcome the craziness that the world has become. Thank you.
Andrew's clarity of thought and ability to articulate this clearly matches that of Jordan, making for an absorbing, thought-provoking and thoroughly entertaining discussion. Bravo gentlemen 👏
Dr Peterson’s recent podcasts have been mindblowingly informative, provocative, and insightful. Jordan, if you ever read this, I want you to know I truly appreciate the work you do
He really has been excelling for the last while
We need to find creative ways to bring back Humility as a central virtue, as a pillar that can sustain us all.🙏
Exemplify it and pray to God it catches on
This was one of the best JP shows ever great guest spot on!
This was an astonishing affirmation of some of the conclusions I’ve been forming over the last few years. Thank you.
A fabulous podcast as I love Andrew Doyle. I totally agree with his views on left and right. After working in academia all my life and considered myself left wing until the woke movement made it about imposing their infantile ideologies on everyone else. I now feel politically homeless and very disengaged.
as long as that spark of ordinary decency was within, you made it home.
The issue with the left is the lies it tells itself.
It claims to be about helping the weakest in society get back on their feet and not catering to the will of the powerful.
This sounds like something noble. It's hard to argue against
But reality is in every single way
Instead it is about celebrating weakness and tearing anyone strong down.
Even if the weak are just pretending or the strong just seem that way on paper
Take comfort in the fact that you're not alone; in fact, you're in some very good company.
Great to see Andrew back, one of my favourite guests.
Don't be mean. You shouldn't take joy in other peoples suffering
What a brilliant conversation. Ask each other questions. Listen to each other. Challenge each other. In the spirit of shared dialogue. Thank you both. Wonderful.
I'm very happy i got the DW membership a while ago because I am absolutely fascinated by this conversation! You two bring out excellent thinking in one another. Well done!
We just need to teach children why free speech is important. ❤
Ďakujem.
Thank you Jordan for bringing Andrew onto the show. It’s inspiring to see two people with, in some ways, very different political opinions elucidate the truth in a respectful, honorable manner.
“That’s how people with different opinions settle their opinions in a civil society.”
Except, I'll bet, they didn't settle anything
@@pgronemeier They found common ground on a wide variety of issues. Unlike the puritanical Leftoids, mature adults don't HAVE to control every little belief of other people. That would be fascist. Authoritarian. Totalitarian.
@@pgronemeier I think they found common ground on many things and took into account each others perspectives. Two intelligent men with varying views have typically been able to sort out their differences and meet somewhere in the middle. The inability to communicate and compromise for the betterment of society is a rather new ill that’s fallen particularly hard on the west through ideologues. The quicker people recognize it for what it is and who is controlling their very thoughts, the easier it will be for us as a society to stop the dehumanizing of any one group. I’d like to believe everyone is smarter than to allow that, although lately it’s been difficult to tell.
@@free2beemee No. ONE intelligent man BECAUSE he was able to 'see the light'. The other man is not. MAYBE in time. But not now.
The word "compromise" is if you want McDonald's. I want burger king. And we COMPROMISE on Wendy's. One SHOULDN'T compromise between right and wrong/good and evil. "Common ground" is if we agree we both like air. Like I posted with my own comment, I stopped this at the 4 minute mark. There was no need to see people agree to disagree. It sounds scholarly. But it solved nothing!
Just like one can disagree with what I just said. I know I'm right. One might know I'm wrong. Talking together for 2 hours isn't going to convince either one of us. So it 'solved' nothing
Brilliant conversation. As someone with orthodox Christian views on human sexuality I am intruiged by how many contemporary voices of wisdom are coming from gay men. I am deeply thankful for Andrew Doyle's insight and courage and for the depth of this discussion.
And yet, he has no solutions because he still refuses to believe in God and still believes in Gay marriage and the normalizing of the fringe and worshipping art. He is unable to accept that his views are the problem.
@@Blaise45belief isn't a choice and neither is sexuality
@ShazDugan - "belief isn't a choice." lol, what a pathetic idea. What I expect from the anti-human left.
@@Blaise45 Belief isn't a choice. You don't choose whether you find arguments convincing or not. It just happens in your brain.
Of course, you could choose to look solely at arguments for one side of an issue, avoiding arguments for other sides, and in that way bias yourself towards belief on that side. But it's a dishonest belief in that case. For an honest belief, the strength of the arguments matters (and varies based on the individual mind, due to differing biology and environment/history).
@steve112285 - of course, another anti-human leftist. You really like to support each other. Like I said, your idea that humans can not choose is truly pitiable. Not much else say, I lifted both of you in prayer.
“There’s a part of you that would literally dwell in hell before you could rescue yourself from it.” Powerful words.
Weirdly, there's a pride and comfort in it
Our species and the human experience is a complicated ol' thing huh guy's
@@Fuckgoogle-tg5kz for sure! Funny username btw.
What a superb dialogue. That's the first time I feel so elated by the ideas that are exchanged in a long time. Thank you Dr. Peterson and Dr. Doyle.
Andrew is a boss, I love listening to him speak.
Another great and refreshing interview! Thank you, Dr. Peterson and author Andrew Doyle! ❤️ 🇨🇦 ❤️
Outstanding conversation!👏😊💖
What a fantastic discussion. It’s nice to listen to level headed, intelligent individuals discuss the problems we’re facing as a community, nation, even many parts of the world. Strange times, indeed.
Thanks!
Sensational discussion gentleman. Thank you very much.
A very engaging conversation. Thank you Dr. Peterson and Mr. Doyle
This was a wonderful, spectacular and very important conversation. We should be talking about these issues with this amount of depth, playfulness and openness. I enjoyed this conversation so much, thank you both for this… what is the word, I don’t want to say “food for thought” because I feel it was at least a feast, but more like ambrosia or something of the sort… 😂 truly amazing and highly enjoyable, one of my favorite for sure ❤
Thank you for over 60 minutes of sanity and enlightenment.
After listening to many, many JBP interviews over several years, I have to say that this interview and discussion was one of the best. Kudos!
I fell to sleep watching something else and woke up just as this video was starting. Can't believe it has taken me a year to become aware that a conversation between you two existed on here. Great talk. Perfect balance of profundity and conviviality. Thank you both.
Starting a discussion, working through differences in thought, and then continuing to explore the twists and turns is so enlighteming. Best way to start the day!
It was a fulfilling conversation. Thank you.
This was a very informative video I am fisherman from Nova Scotia I am a Christian and believe in traditional morals and values .I wish to help young people sober up and get off drugs most people these days alot focus is on the academic side of Rehabilitation or viewing covid 19 as the only problem but among young people Drugs are at epidemic levels across Canada as well world wide regardless of political positions or opinions us young people look for hopeful inspiration for positive change. Christian views are often repressed or misrepresented.Your explanation of Cain and Able has a discipline and expectations that most young people without Grace and clear instruction don't receive .this video refers to young people as infant and us trying in infancy I agree with your statements. My opinion In family dinamics if a baby tries to walk we congratulate the babe for trying evan if they fall I believe as Christians we should always share the same love and Grace when I consider other concepts of Faith such as the Fear of the Lord I understand it as being movtivated to love my neighbours and Love God by not misrepresenting his love and never deny his Grace of new beginnings.When I see older folks using the Bible to condemn it demonstrates they missed the message of the Golden Rule or the Heart of the law (justice,Mercy and Good Faith) I pray all I going good for you and thank you for your wisdom on modern times challenging subjects ❤Brady Ring, Nova Scotia .in future videos could you please explain in more practical approaches to help young people addressing drugs personally Christianity helped me with letting go of Alcohol and other habits .How has traditional Christian views impacted you with helping young people with drugs? I ask because I really wanna help . I lost a bunch of friends to overdose and other issues related to intoxication (DUI) I don't ever wanna be a social justice warrior or misrepresented by other terms related .thanks for your time I recommend the Book written by "David Wilkerson " "the Cross and SwitchBlade" I found his testimony inspiring helping young people like me I'm age 29 ❤❤❤God Bless ❤❤❤
This is truly beautiful, Brady. I can feel the Holy Spirit radiating His light from your comment. I am adding you and your mission to my daily prayer list. God is moving with and through you! Praise God. Your comment really encouraged me. - your sister in Christ, K
Brady Ring, you might also or alternatively consider being able provide some part of support for young men who have escaped transition ( detransitioners). I can imagine some kind of program including boats and fishing might be great as part of that.
Hello Brady, I work in a Christian rehab centre. It has the big advantage that the guys, mostly coming off drugs, are completely removed from the world - no drugs, no tobacco, nothing, and are subject to the disciplines of communal life including work. Gradually many of the guys begin to accept fundamental Bible truths and they slowly begin to change. Those who stick the process leave as new men. In your situation though, it probably helps to know that drugs are not the main problem - drugs are the symptom of emotional turmoil, and the emotional turmoil in the end is a symptom of being spiritually lost. Help needs to be applied at all three levels - physical (get off drugs), emotional (get some stability and kindness; deal with anger), and spiritual (get hold of some truth). I notice that you are 29. You would be amazed how many guys reach the end of the road and look for help at around the age of 28. That's when they find that life is not working, and suddenly their brains are mature enough to see this.
You're a good man ❤
I can listen to Professor Peterson for hours and hours, and I won't get tired or bored.
Excellent discussion. I'm grateful to be able to watch important , informative, and brilliantly conveyed information ! Thank you gentleman.
2 brilliant fellows. Excellent.
I've only ever uploaded 1 video to RUclips - a thank you message to JBP for the impact he has had on my life.
Such an interesting discussion! So many times I wanted to be in there sharing thoughts! I agree with your ideas on Macbeth- Studied it in high school as a teenage girl and was rather horrified at the subconscious fear that he could be me…. Later it took me realizing my actions were ‘worthy of hell’ to be saved. We really have awful and wonderful potential in us.
I studied it too and felt the same.
Beautiful conversation, loved it
1:20:46 I was traumatised by the idea of the Holocaust when I was young. I had dreams about it and had to keep it in a space at the back of my mind. While I had some therapy during my 20's, the therapist posited the idea that maybe I was on the other side of the fence. One of the most enlightening things anybody ever said to me.
Wow that, my friend, hit me. I think he did touch the sensitive part there.
Probably the most reasonable and relevant conversation I've seen in the last 3 years. Excellent work.
According to James Lindsay, woke communism isn't just metaphorically a religion. Karl Marx's teachings are actually based on Hegel's teachings, which are based on gnosticism and hermeticism, the latter of which is an ancient Greek religion that has esoterically survived to this day.
That premise James brought forward recently has given me much pause for thought.
@@michaelkinville177 The fact that woke communism is a religion is especially relevant as it pertains to the separation between church and state.
Jordon references the ouroboros many times. I doubt that he's ignorant of its gnostic symbolism.
@@michaelkinville177 It's likely Jordan knows. He had James on his podcast recently. Andrew referred to wokism as analogous to a religion. I think he's hung up on the fact that they don't believe in God. Buddhists don't believe in God. It's not a requirement for a religion.
And its funny(not funny) how well Nazism aligns with Gnosticism
Thank you for your clarity and insights. You and your guests are a shining light in this darkness
I love love the William Blake example - such a wonderful artist and visionary!
😮 hey
Two of the best intellectuals, brilliant minds.
What shear joy it was to hear this discussion. I am so lucky and grateful for these great thinkers.
Such a wonderful conversation! Thank you to you both 🙏 The importance of great art in all of its forms shouldn't be undervalued. This has been somewhat lost in modern western culture . . . the potential outcome is devastating.
I've learned so much from this brilliant conversation.
This has been one of your best ever episodes, in my opinion. If I could choose a single conversation to beam into the minds of everyone in the Western world, this would be a strong contender.
Andrew is awesome, and puts it on all the line for sanity! Thanks to the both of you, great debate!
This conversation is such a breath of fresh air
I lean to the right but absolutely love Andrew Doyle & agree with pretty much most of what he says. How does that work!!!
Google and read his recent article about the "pride month".
@@thosoz3431 As Andrew says at the beginning of the conversation - "left", "right" have become apparently meaningless labels these days.
I considered myself liberal conservative, I'm a Christian - and I stand by Andrew 100%.
Once upon at time the left and right had a lot more in common than different. Moreover that wasn't, as it is frequently now, viewed as a problem.
I understand it better as collectivists versus the individual.
I so enjoy your conversations!
I absolutely LOVE this conversation!!! ❤
Loved the whole conversation. I would recommend listening to this to everyone I don't care what side of religion or politics you are on everyone if they have the capacity to use an open mind you will be enriched by it. Again thanks for speaking up and not being afraid to speak the truth.
Absolutely fantastic discussion.
Incredible discussion! (The adults have gone along with the childish delusions in a similar situation as the Salem witch trials - I’ve felt that to be true for a long time!)
Wow most informative interesting conversation I have heard in years!great stuff gentlemen 👋
This conversation is a total banger 🔥🔥👌
I have looked up to Dr. Peterson for a long time, he has my support, but I have a new admiration for Andrew Doyle....God speed my friends.
"The fringe of the fringe is devouring the fringe." - Thank you Jordan! Yes, the more letters they add, the closer they come to an implosion.
Yes!!! HUMILITY has become of utmost importance in our times...talk about a truly redeeming virtue...and ANTIDOTE for the craziness of our times!
I loved this intelligent conversation! Great interview Andrew and Jordan!
When does it start? I'm 45 mins in and Doyle has just rambled on and on without making a single point yet! Never admired Peterson's patience so much
I’ve watched Andrew many times and never realised what a deep thinker he is.
I didn't know he had a doctorate in English literature before this interview. Always liked the guy as a comedian and a commenter on social issues. This is your grandparents gay dude.
Thank you to Andrew Doyle and Dr. Peterson for this discussion.
This should be required listening for every college arudent and corporate employee.
When I was a child (80s) I was confronted with a thread "When I am done with you, you won't even know if you are a girl or boy anymore!" and though "What can one do to me that I don't even know about me being girl or boy anymore???" Now I understand better that it is even possible to do such a thing to a whole generation.
Absolutely brilliant. Two of my favourite thinkers.
What a poweful conversation. Love Andrew Doyle.
Andrew, I've said it before after your Trig YT, you're just a brilliant, caring, free, studied, articulate mind. The best social commentator. Thanks to JP (who I've also seen live) for having you and risking having your brilliance exposed as exceeding even his 😊. Invaluable episode for societal future. At the same time we do also need a positive, coherent political vision for freedom and fairness and care now, addressing the genuine concerns of the left and needs of the poor/bullied.
Andrew throws a few things at Jordan that he doesn't expect, it makes for a very interesting discussion. Really good stuff.