But that mig was spotted for more than 10s, Defyn here is just blind. Check radar again. Clearly marked, he just didn't notice him. Spotting system is working perfectly here.
@@PomaweragidoThe blip was in the same spot as where the Mirage went down, normally it would have been safe to assume that was just the mirage wreck going down. Wouldn't call him blind because he got the most unfortunate treatment ever by gaijin.
@@dutch24 While I have certainly missed it in this exact scenario, there are two hostile radar blips up at same time and they are no where near each other. (7:13)
@wellisuckatplayinggames6917 fr, dodging the phoenix's is very easy but it makes you just notch and not do anything the whole match, and then by the time you come to the center all your team is dead
Its not just you lol, every time i complain people just say skill issue and that theyre easy to dodge. It aint true bro those things are nasty. At least f14b gets uptiered to top tier all the time now
@gertaro yeah dodging them alone is easy enough, but doing it on top of everything else youre trying to do during a match makes it tough. Then theres the random time youre just not paying attention and get smacked.
Still cannot fathom how anybody at Gaijin thought it was a good idea to reduce multipathing while people abusing AIM54Cs was still a very real thing. On top of it, adding FOX3s, which is fine... unless you are in a plane which doesn't have them, which is like charging into machine gun fire with a sword.
jUsT NOtCh bRO. For real, I don't think we've ever had a more unbalanced and less skill-dependent top tier in WT. Really wish we'd never gone beyond SARH missiles, like there weren't 200 different ways of encouraging BVR gameplay that didn't include adding new, hard to balance weapons...
@@jfv2312I honestly have notched more aim 120s than Phoenix's. I just can't notch them for some reason even though I managed it for many aim120's even at close range but not for the slow Phoenix.
@@Jacksonflax no, it was not, but as I said, it was Gaijin's fault for not giving a shit when they introduced SARH missiles, they will just never work in a ultra crowded, low altitude furball scenario like WT's Air RB, they should've made an actual effort to change the meta. And not even bothering to properly model monopulse seekers, or adding stuff like the R-27ER with no real competition didn't help either... Now we have the worst of both worlds, BVR in ultra crowded maps and skill-less gameplay fully dependent on the plane's weapons and sensors. Remember this isn't real life or a more detailed simulator, 2 or 3 F-15C with 8 AMRAAMs can practically win the match on their own if their pilots are good enough.
The whole engagement was just the typical engagement for a tornado, Something that is faster then you and can out turn you that gaijin for some reason thinks you should see every match. Now why the GR1 rocked up like he was going to do anything idk
A former RAF Tornado and F-14 pilot was asked about having to fight Tomcat's in the Tornado and his comment was that the Tornado's turn rate was pathetic compared to the F-14 and once the F-14 got past the Tornado's 3/9 line it could never get the advantage back
this plane: such skill, much wow! spawn launches all phoenix ...? profit F14s are so busted that when I heard about the BR decompression I thought "finally they'll move up", but they also moved all the other lower level planes, so it remained the same
Putting a talisman on the f14a back when it came out was the best financial war thunder decision i ever made, best grinder out there because of its gimmicks and matchmaking
Mr Defyn, this is quality content as always. I have a suggestion to make. Since you have ties with Gaijin, can you ask them to add the fuel dump feature? I feel like it will be widely appreciated. And its obviosly realistic as planes can do it in real life. Thanks.
I spent like a month playing the F-14 in exactly this way. The main issue is there is a bug with the IR signature location of the F-14 that makes all missiles behave as if they have IRCCM. R-60s for example can totally ignore all flares (it probably doesn't help that the F-14 has small flares.) There's a bug open on the tracker about it but I wouldn't hold out hope for a fix. It's unrelated to engine temperature, you can turn your engines off and it'll be the same
Honestly I don't know what to do against it in the fgr2, I do not like to call things overpowered but I honestly don't know what I can do against it - it outranges the fgr with it's fox 1s, and wins both quick and sustained dogfights against it, the only advantage I think the fgr has is that when the F-14s wings are folded out it doesn't roll as well?
@@covidius9511 true the f14 is a very strong dogfighter with ARH at a br there it still sees things without rwr i grinded it recently my self and i must say its completly braindead no skill needed everytime 2 kills without even rly playing just flying straight
@@Luisasophie163people say dieing by a aim 54 is a skill issue but spending half of a 5-10 minute match defending against bvr missiles isn’t fun either.
@@covidius9511 its so sad before the nerfs the mig23 had a chance but now its just as big of a piece of shit as the rest of the other planes the f14 just outclasses literally everything
@@dutch24 Played around 10 games, have a kd around 6 and i'm no god tier jet pilot. It sees a lot of downtiers and the radar works surprisingly well at low alt or look down shots.
For me, it's very simple: 16v16, multipathing = yes 12v12 or less, multipathing = no Besides, we need variable multipathing (I mean in relation to certain regions of the map bcs of 80m or taller trees and an adjustment of the multipathing level different from map to map...) Edit: Look, if common players like you and me know this, Gaijin probably already knows it too. It's not like creators and players haven't been saying this in forums and such... It's all about your money, and they don't care if we have a heart attack or if we are happy playing. So boycott this crap, stop playing, don't spend money to play Fox-3, go back to downtier, do anything except what those idiots want
I would say for any country with 120 plus countermeasure this makes sense but red side which makes up about 1 third of the player base doesn't really have enough chaff
@@MrVazRaptorexcept gaijin would need to run more matches at once which would toootally ruin their earnings, honestly I would not care if they introduced it only to premium accounts, but they are so damn lazy that they aren't even able to be greedy
My favorite part of the BR changes is that F14B currently might be the most ballanced aircraft in existence, feels liek the fairest matchmakign has ever been in wt. At the same time F14A is doom music, hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby level of unfair. .3 rating difference btw
The problem with the f 14 is top tier is still too compressed, and if you move it up it'll mainly be facing real fox 3's while dogfighting with ir missles that have no irccm
You should play the F4D Skyray, since this patch made wingripping better it's actually an AMAZING plane that's supersonic and turns like an F-16 at a lower BR than the Starfighter.
IMO The issue is, that even if you compare them to one BR higher, they suck already. F16As etc. have no problem with F14As due to weak engines and shit IR missiles (plus Phoenix is weaker at higher BR thanks to better RWRs). So it's kind of hard to balance. They should decompress it more, create 14.0 and put Tomcat Early ver. at 12.7 (or nerf it by one more BR raise) and move current 12.7 to 13.0 etc. (My shit take)
@@aleski6506 The aim-54 is nerfed in the game, it should be able to pull 25G. The aim-54C is literally a downgrade. A 17G arh missile + shitty HDN only radar is not 13.0 material.
I like to spam 6 54s from sub 30km at match start on smaller maps before using my main loadout of 2 7e2s and 4 more 54s. I like the 7e2s better that the 7fs because i use them from 3-8km in a headon and they are so quick to accel that most people dont have time to do anything about it. This is all pre patch tho.
Defyn, could you please fix the video order in your guides playlist? It's a bit hard to follow when it goes #2, #2, #1, #0.1, #4, #5, #3 with random topicals mixed in.
I like the dogfight performance of the f-14 but I don’t understand phoenixes, I’ve had 5 battles with the 6 phoenixes and only have 3 kills with them total.
Hey defyn, you should try the kfir c7 again. I've been bringing a drop tank and full fuel with it and running around the map at mach 1.3+ basically making it nearly impossible to get hit by anything that isn't an r27er (even at 8km high) Sr71 sim essentially
If gaigin wants to go any further into more modern jets, they need to add a couple more gamemodes. Namely: a small game ONLY game, and a 1v1 game mode. Not asking for too much here
The only problem with this strategy is that the m2kc is at the same br. There arent many of them, but theyre nasty in a dogfight. Any chance you could revisit that plane sometime?
How to you change between tws targets??? I searching for this key for days now. I play in German it would help me to know how you do that. Please help...
Hey skill issue man. I believe you mentioned playing a bit of tanks a whole wile ago. Would you mind showing us the grind? I know this is an ARB channel but a bit of tank side content wouldn't be too bad especially if you're grinding a few lowtiers.
11:32. Bruh this Mirage was going Mach FUCK! Above mach the 2000 pulls like a brick. If he'd used his airbrake and gone in at like 800 or 900kmh he would have been in a lot better shape
It's a lot stronger in one circle fights due to it's high AoA limit, but being a delta wing, it has below average energy retention, which makes it less ideal for two circle fights.
I can't agree with Defyn here. F14 definitely is now alot worse than before the BR changes. I get uptiered facing f16, f15 AV8B PLUS, and mig29 almost every match. The main reason might be that there is basically no 11.7 jet in the lobbies
It's kinda crazy how tame the comments section is seeing how op the tomcat is, however I guarantee you if it was a Russian jet doing this everyone would be spamming how op Russia is and it needs to be nerfed.
I did not expect Defyn to say "gyatt" and "mogging" in the same sentence
Its defyn, what else would you expect
Bro is to old to be saying this
I don't know what these words mean😂
Or either of those words. Ever.
Its defyn, it was a matter of time
ik defyn is trying to be serious but when he says ''lvl 10 gyatt'' and ''mogging them'' i just cant
brain rotted
"you fold out ur lvl 10 gyatt and start mogging them" - DEFYN 2024
1:39 brainrot has infected Defyn, i wont be surprised if he will say more in future videos
He must embrace the brainrot to keep relevancy in the war thunder community
@@tomako1176 war thunder memes are keeping the game alive
8:32 Im so happy for both of you!! :) congrats to you and your F-14! You look happy so together
7:24 how the spotting system has been lately
But that mig was spotted for more than 10s, Defyn here is just blind. Check radar again. Clearly marked, he just didn't notice him. Spotting system is working perfectly here.
@@PomaweragidoThe blip was in the same spot as where the Mirage went down, normally it would have been safe to assume that was just the mirage wreck going down.
Wouldn't call him blind because he got the most unfortunate treatment ever by gaijin.
he spotted him when he looked behind after killing the f1, he was just in the very corner of the screen on the top left.
@@dutch24 While I have certainly missed it in this exact scenario, there are two hostile radar blips up at same time and they are no where near each other. (7:13)
And that's how you explain half the game.
F-14 is either:
Big dorito phoenix spammer
Giga chad dogfighter
playing 12.0 france has taught me a deep hatred for Aim54s
It’s like a living nightmare every goddamn match is relentless spamming notching and dodging
@wellisuckatplayinggames6917 fr, dodging the phoenix's is very easy but it makes you just notch and not do anything the whole match, and then by the time you come to the center all your team is dead
Its not just you lol, every time i complain people just say skill issue and that theyre easy to dodge. It aint true bro those things are nasty. At least f14b gets uptiered to top tier all the time now
@gertaro yeah dodging them alone is easy enough, but doing it on top of everything else youre trying to do during a match makes it tough. Then theres the random time youre just not paying attention and get smacked.
@@wellisuckatplayinggames6917 you can bleed the aim-54 it loves to over correct just do some S turns it'll run out of energy
Still cannot fathom how anybody at Gaijin thought it was a good idea to reduce multipathing while people abusing AIM54Cs was still a very real thing. On top of it, adding FOX3s, which is fine... unless you are in a plane which doesn't have them, which is like charging into machine gun fire with a sword.
jUsT NOtCh bRO.
For real, I don't think we've ever had a more unbalanced and less skill-dependent top tier in WT. Really wish we'd never gone beyond SARH missiles, like there weren't 200 different ways of encouraging BVR gameplay that didn't include adding new, hard to balance weapons...
@@jfv2312I quit playing altogether after the atrocious BR changes. High tier is currently unplayable for most planes except the actually OP ones
@@jfv2312I honestly have notched more aim 120s than Phoenix's. I just can't notch them for some reason even though I managed it for many aim120's even at close range but not for the slow Phoenix.
@@jfv2312 oh yes, hugging the ground all game and spamming IRCCM fox 2s was very skillful gameplay, huh?
@@Jacksonflax no, it was not, but as I said, it was Gaijin's fault for not giving a shit when they introduced SARH missiles, they will just never work in a ultra crowded, low altitude furball scenario like WT's Air RB, they should've made an actual effort to change the meta.
And not even bothering to properly model monopulse seekers, or adding stuff like the R-27ER with no real competition didn't help either... Now we have the worst of both worlds, BVR in ultra crowded maps and skill-less gameplay fully dependent on the plane's weapons and sensors. Remember this isn't real life or a more detailed simulator, 2 or 3 F-15C with 8 AMRAAMs can practically win the match on their own if their pilots are good enough.
Tornado: friends?
Defyn: Nope
Defyn: Tornados must perish.
The greatest conversatiom of all time 😂
bro pleaded for his life haha
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The whole engagement was just the typical engagement for a tornado, Something that is faster then you and can out turn you that gaijin for some reason thinks you should see every match.
Now why the GR1 rocked up like he was going to do anything idk
Tbf, this tornado really brought it upon himself
Tornado just wanted to be frends. y he so mean? 🥺
A former RAF Tornado and F-14 pilot was asked about having to fight Tomcat's in the Tornado and his comment was that the Tornado's turn rate was pathetic compared to the F-14 and once the F-14 got past the Tornado's 3/9 line it could never get the advantage back
10:56 faint car horn
The F-14 is back to ruining a whole BR range
this plane: such skill, much wow!
spawn
launches all phoenix
...?
profit
F14s are so busted that when I heard about the BR decompression I thought "finally they'll move up", but they also moved all the other lower level planes, so it remained the same
Putting a talisman on the f14a back when it came out was the best financial war thunder decision i ever made, best grinder out there because of its gimmicks and matchmaking
Yeah you get at least one kill per game with the Phoenix
I hope both f14's get uptiered 0.3 br in the next change. They are way to strong.
@@touchgrass7834the f14a would literally get stomped and shitted on against top tiers, the f14s would be almost useless if they were uptiered
@@touchgrass7834 except the j35xs and f14a aren’t the same br? Lol the f14a is 12.3 and and the j35xs is 11.3
-Friends?
-nope
-All tronados must die
That ad was so well timed
8:33
i mean the plane is good but you dont have to marry it
Then it's a dogfight.
-An F-14...against 3rd gen fighters?
-It's not the plane. It's the matchmaker.
-I know, Rooster, but...wait, what?
Come on Mav, don't think, just spam your phoenixes@Jaeger_89
@@Jaeger_89 lol!
@@Jaeger_89don't think, just do
-"friends?"
-"nope"
-> We all know who the villain is
Mr Defyn, this is quality content as always.
I have a suggestion to make. Since you have ties with Gaijin, can you ask them to add the fuel dump feature? I feel like it will be widely appreciated.
And its obviosly realistic as planes can do it in real life.
Thanks.
I have no power for any of that stuff sadly
It's videos like this that makes me wanna slog through br 7.3 air rb to get to top tier.
1+1 does in fact equal 27 in the F-14A
Peak F14 gameplay
5:25 idk that seemed pretty optimal to me
He really anticipated the mountain joke ☠️
I spent like a month playing the F-14 in exactly this way. The main issue is there is a bug with the IR signature location of the F-14 that makes all missiles behave as if they have IRCCM. R-60s for example can totally ignore all flares (it probably doesn't help that the F-14 has small flares.) There's a bug open on the tracker about it but I wouldn't hold out hope for a fix.
It's unrelated to engine temperature, you can turn your engines off and it'll be the same
Also F-14 flaps got a big nerf a few patches ago, they only turn on at 700kph now (used to be able to put combat flaps out way above that)
@@Myndrrat least it has flaps
Just unlocked my 1st Tomcat (and the Phoenixes) and wow that missile launch is slow ... but I love it
i do exactly what you are doing every game but my missiles goes on vacation every time
F14 on its br still op
Honestly I don't know what to do against it in the fgr2, I do not like to call things overpowered but I honestly don't know what I can do against it - it outranges the fgr with it's fox 1s, and wins both quick and sustained dogfights against it, the only advantage I think the fgr has is that when the F-14s wings are folded out it doesn't roll as well?
@@covidius9511 true the f14 is a very strong dogfighter with ARH at a br there it still sees things without rwr i grinded it recently my self and i must say its completly braindead no skill needed everytime 2 kills without even rly playing just flying straight
@@Luisasophie163people say dieing by a aim 54 is a skill issue but spending half of a 5-10 minute match defending against bvr missiles isn’t fun either.
@@Luisasophie163 I've just had a game where 5 people in total went down just to phoenixes hah
@@covidius9511 its so sad before the nerfs the mig23 had a chance but now its just as big of a piece of shit as the rest of the other planes the f14 just outclasses literally everything
Hey defyn, could you do a video on the Dutch hunter? Struggling with using that thing vs better players in better planes
Bike content when?
(Also you should try the F-4E, br "decompression" made it 10 times better)
How it better now?
@@AZ-dj1niPlanes around it went up in br, so it fights subsonic and flareless planes
It went up too, it's 11.3 now which is still pretty darn high for a missile boat to not have PD
@@dutch24 Played around 10 games, have a kd around 6 and i'm no god tier jet pilot. It sees a lot of downtiers and the radar works surprisingly well at low alt or look down shots.
@@mushlook7251 Averaging 6 k/d is a pretty freaking big ratio
For me, it's very simple:
16v16, multipathing = yes
12v12 or less, multipathing = no
Besides, we need variable multipathing (I mean in relation to certain regions of the map bcs of 80m or taller trees and an adjustment of the multipathing level different from map to map...)
Edit: Look, if common players like you and me know this, Gaijin probably already knows it too. It's not like creators and players haven't been saying this in forums and such... It's all about your money, and they don't care if we have a heart attack or if we are happy playing. So boycott this crap, stop playing, don't spend money to play Fox-3, go back to downtier, do anything except what those idiots want
I'd say make air rb ec a separate game mode, so Sim but with rb settings, realistic trees would indeed be nice
I think 8v8 and no multipathing would be perfect
I would say for any country with 120 plus countermeasure this makes sense but red side which makes up about 1 third of the player base doesn't really have enough chaff
@@oofdotcom420perfect xd its a dream for me 8d
@@MrVazRaptorexcept gaijin would need to run more matches at once which would toootally ruin their earnings, honestly I would not care if they introduced it only to premium accounts, but they are so damn lazy that they aren't even able to be greedy
Great video, now I want to play my Tomcat again😂
My favorite part of the BR changes is that F14B currently might be the most ballanced aircraft in existence, feels liek the fairest matchmakign has ever been in wt.
At the same time F14A is doom music, hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby level of unfair.
.3 rating difference btw
"plane didn't really like dying" is crazy
The problem with the f 14 is top tier is still too compressed, and if you move it up it'll mainly be facing real fox 3's while dogfighting with ir missles that have no irccm
4:15 I REFUSE!
my fridge has enough brain to do well in this plane.
despite not being the "smart" one
@@uvod plot turn: OP uses ice box
The white looks good I think I'll switch from red
You should play the F4D Skyray, since this patch made wingripping better it's actually an AMAZING plane that's supersonic and turns like an F-16 at a lower BR than the Starfighter.
The Tomcats are undertiered af at the moment
IMO The issue is, that even if you compare them to one BR higher, they suck already. F16As etc. have no problem with F14As due to weak engines and shit IR missiles (plus Phoenix is weaker at higher BR thanks to better RWRs). So it's kind of hard to balance. They should decompress it more, create 14.0 and put Tomcat Early ver. at 12.7 (or nerf it by one more BR raise) and move current 12.7 to 13.0 etc. (My shit take)
We need a guns only dogfighting mode for jets
The brainrot got Defyn 💀
F14A to 12.7 (with AIM 9L)
F14B to 13.0 (with AIM 9M)
*AIM 9H
If the AIM-54s are fixed to be Mach 5 and 25G, maybe
@@Iden_in_the_Rainbro what
It won't happen lil bro. The radar + RWR is not 12.7/13.0 material. By a long shot.
@@aleski6506 The aim-54 is nerfed in the game, it should be able to pull 25G. The aim-54C is literally a downgrade. A 17G arh missile + shitty HDN only radar is not 13.0 material.
I like to spam 6 54s from sub 30km at match start on smaller maps before using my main loadout of 2 7e2s and 4 more 54s. I like the 7e2s better that the 7fs because i use them from 3-8km in a headon and they are so quick to accel that most people dont have time to do anything about it. This is all pre patch tho.
Today was my 6th year continuous login rewarded by a 500% SL booster...
The only thing I’ve seen that the F14a cannot compete with a dogfight is the Mirage 2000
If it can survive the first or second turn, it should be able to win since the mirage is a delta wing which loses speed quickly
""JUST NOTCH BRO"""
Play F-15J Kai its the new meta plane
W-what but reddit told me the aim-54's are terrible and spamming them doesnt work.
I mean they used to be pretty meh.
average redditor isn't even capable of counting 2+2, who even listens to them
It's reddit, they over react to just about everything.
Defyn, could you please fix the video order in your guides playlist? It's a bit hard to follow when it goes #2, #2, #1, #0.1, #4, #5, #3 with random topicals mixed in.
I like the dogfight performance of the f-14 but I don’t understand phoenixes, I’ve had 5 battles with the 6 phoenixes and only have 3 kills with them total.
based defyn
Hey defyn, you should try the kfir c7 again. I've been bringing a drop tank and full fuel with it and running around the map at mach 1.3+ basically making it nearly impossible to get hit by anything that isn't an r27er (even at 8km high)
Sr71 sim essentially
If gaigin wants to go any further into more modern jets, they need to add a couple more gamemodes. Namely: a small game ONLY game, and a 1v1 game mode. Not asking for too much here
amazing, and then there is me just buying the premium planes and never flying them because I'm bad at it
i like to take 3 54s and 3 7Fs. It gets me more consistent result.
Defyn, do you plan on making a video on the amx a-1a?
The only problem with this strategy is that the m2kc is at the same br. There arent many of them, but theyre nasty in a dogfight. Any chance you could revisit that plane sometime?
This plane is pure air superioity
Try the Aj37 (10.7) it has been pretty buffed with ufo flight performance with 340 chaff per pod
hey defyn would you consider making a J-7E video now that it didn't go up in br?
3:58 Bro that chat💀
How to you change between tws targets???
I searching for this key for days now. I play in German it would help me to know how you do that.
Please help...
It's select radar target, should be I think 2nd or 3rd button in the z (or y) action menu and you should be able to figure it out from there
@@AzachorThanks a lot bro.👍🏼
I already found the right key and it really helped to get much stronger in BVR.
Well why is the gripped and f15a not at 13.3
Interrupted the goon session to present me your gyat
I tried playing f14a again and my tws just straight up doesnt work???
Just woke up 48 seconds since this was posted; first 🔥
Oh god i hate playing against this jet
Thug shaker at 500k
DEFYN, J35D and/or AJ37 after br changes when?
the brainroot has breaching our defense
how is he use the hdn on radar mode when the tornado is running from him?
Hey skill issue man.
I believe you mentioned playing a bit of tanks a whole wile ago. Would you mind showing us the grind? I know this is an ARB channel but a bit of tank side content wouldn't be too bad especially if you're grinding a few lowtiers.
11:32. Bruh this Mirage was going Mach FUCK! Above mach the 2000 pulls like a brick. If he'd used his airbrake and gone in at like 800 or 900kmh he would have been in a lot better shape
you should play the kurnass 2k now that its 12.3
What about the mirage 2000? Is it better at dogfight or worst?
It's a lot stronger in one circle fights due to it's high AoA limit, but being a delta wing, it has below average energy retention, which makes it less ideal for two circle fights.
And watch out for sharp nose pulls for a cheeky magic
But a low fuel mirage can sit on its engine
defyn has gen alpha humor but its ok cause its funy
undertiered us-planes...
This is about the 8th video when I'm not in one of your videos even If I play missles tier.
Im trying to grind my F1CT in rb and its def a struggle at 12.0
I can't agree with Defyn here. F14 definitely is now alot worse than before the BR changes. I get uptiered facing f16, f15 AV8B PLUS, and mig29 almost every match.
The main reason might be that there is basically no 11.7 jet in the lobbies
How do you select, or change target using the radar?
now that its 12.3 will it perform the same or it's a bit hard?
ty
lvl 10 gyatt
RWR just called mirage mid, probably made everyone in french tech tree mad af (can't run from the truth)
How do u set up the radar properly for the F14?
10:55 HONK
AHHAHA I KNEW IT I KNEW IT, galjin nerfing everything that is new! Its pathetic
can u do a review on the a28b
"friends?"
"Nope" 😞
3:46 i think he surrender
How do you cycle through radar targets with TWS on?
Its called select radar target or something
I explain it at the start of my fox3 video i made 2 weeks ago
@@DEFYN Thanks Defyn. I appreciate you.
Nice
It's kinda crazy how tame the comments section is seeing how op the tomcat is, however I guarantee you if it was a Russian jet doing this everyone would be spamming how op Russia is and it needs to be nerfed.
Is 60 meter multipathing only for fox 3 or fox 1 too?
Its for everything
plzzzzzz do a j22b vid