A-5 carried me through rank 5. It was one of my first attempts at really learning jets. For all her faults she is still a solid performer. Got my first jet ace in her.
you bringing up the cl13 reminded me that 9.0-9.3 has so many cool and interesting planes that are basically unplayable because of the matchmaker. it really makes me wish i used to play this game before this happened, Id love to play those planes 4 years ago. it’s so sad i wish gaijin would fix this.
@@cheekibreeki4638 the 104 is annoying as all hell for sure and drags out games forever. that alone isn’t enough to stop it from being fun to play those planes. it’s definitely the all aspect missiles/18g and above missiles. Also for the case of 9.3’s you are basically 100% guaranteed to get uptiered into 10.3 every game because of the f5c. a lot of the planes around are going to have missiles that are at least aim 9j or better and you of course don’t have flares. and because of the compression you’re gonna be fighting aircraft that are way more capable and that includes the f5c’s, they are too good and you’ll be facing them every game. it really is so sad because it would be my favorite bracket to play if it wasn’t getting railed by compression and a 100% up tier chance because of premium spam. those planes were never meant to go up against missiles that good otherwise they would’ve had flares. they gotta either decompress the brs or give them flares that they didn’t have irl.
@@shingrandfather None of them will happen Gaijin just likes to keep those planes as food for superior premiums. Accept your fate and die to an F5C today.
@killme4569 and then there r people who say the mig23bn doesnt need flares too. It has no way of facing anyone and has to try to run away everytime bcuz no miss or flares N only 200 Ammo
I am amazed you even managed to get matched into these games, for me I am consistently against super sonics with missiles and my team is all squadron A4Es with bombs
thats crazy i literally just unlocked this and have been struggling. Perfect timing, banger as usual! First plane I ever put your decal on too. Happy Birthday!
I wish you a happy b-day my main man Defyn, i can't thank you enough for your service to this community, your videos have teached me and continue to teach me so much about what i wanna learn in this game, and that combined with your goofy dry humor that i can only imagine you pull straight outta your ass sometimes, makes you probably my favorite WT CC
I really hate the rat rocket squad clip at the end. It sums up so many of my games. You get infinite hits with guns that won’t do anything and then they just do a tactical fighting retreat back to their airfields and leave you with no ammo, no fuel, and nothing to show for it.
6:13 I really didn't like the A28B at first but it quickly became one of my favorite jets (and higher k/d ratio as I learned the game) but if you're ever getting "Vultured" like this from a f86 or a Mig15 just ignore them and extend or call for help. you can just pitch roll or dodge there guns because they will usually try and zoom you try to reverse the faster jet :) Don't try and follow the energy trap because it's a trap.
all good bro Happy early birthday!! enjoy your time and your internet going down, no biggie we'll all be here when you get back! Be safe and see you soon!
Happy birthday Defyn! It's amazing to see how much this channel has grown in the past year. You've put in a heap of work. It's definitely made me a better pilot, and I'm glad it's paying off for you. Next step is merch!
Surprisingly, I prefer the default rounds when it comes to American .50 cals on jets. With the majority being ap, you have a much greater chance of hitting multiple components or even pilot sniping
@@zacharymurphy2099 Probably just placebo. Also the fact that you don't have a laser stream of tracers might either help or just makes it seem like you shot less for the same result.
Time can never mend The careless whispers of a good friend To the heart and mind Ignorance is kind There's no comfort in the truth Pain is all I'll find.
I got the A-5 a while ago.... cant do well in it because i suck at jet combat, and piston engined plane combat.... and..... you get my point.... how do you know all about the planes you're fighting? their optimal climb rate, their turn rate, their max speed, their energy retention.... etc? It seems you know all that stuff about every plane in the game once you see it
Experience, the best way to counter a plane is knowing how it flyes, what can do and what can't do. Warthunder learning curve is horrible! an absolute horror, that's why flying with experienced pilots will get you good in a short time (compared to fliying solo). EDIT: And some planes are just busted and broken, and there are BR branches that are horrible to play like, 5.0 to 6.3, or 9.0 to 10.0, and 11.0 to 12.0, in the first one is now plagued with JU 288 and the fights are super boring, the other ones there are aircrafts that are powercreeped to death because of BR compression. Warthunder is a game that is very unfair most of the time.
Its just experience and I am rather lucky that I just remember it all very easily. I can gauge a plane by playing a handful of games mostly. Most important thing is to fly a variaty of vehicles and so you know what ur up against. And yes I have 3000 hours in planes or something
It comes with playing the vehicle extensively and finding the style that fits it. What I do with a new vehicle is: -On take off see what speed and how long it takes to lift off. -Lift the nose slightly til I start slowing my acceleration. -Once at about 2000-3000m alt, I level out and let it get to cruising speed. -While at/approaching cruise speed, I test control surfaces (roll, pitch, yaw) -I test a dive to see how bad it locks up and how safe it is to push it past it’s speed rating. This is how I get a basic feel for the aircraft. Once I have that, then I begin stress testing it by flying it in a way it hates to find the way it prefers to fly
I've had many similar experiences with .50 cals just giving me nothing against most jets. I don't know what it is but their damage feels a lot higher against props. Could just be that props being slower means you always get way more rounds on target but it feels like there's something else there too. Also highly based Alaskan skin
Well, MG151/20 M-geschoss vs F89B - nothing to the part hit, the part of the wing a bit further got super-lightly yellow. Jets have insanely tough damage models.
MG151s are kind of broken right now though. They're way weaker than they should be, and are probably the weakest 20mm in the game right now, even with mine rounds. I would believe that Jets have tough damage models, however
An idea for something when you either dont have the footage you want or something is a series where you go over the differences in model in detail and how they impact and change performance from one another. There are so many different models of almost the same plane that it can be hard to know the intricacies and the wiki is either general or just kind of ass.
is sabre nerfed 6 month ago? i remember sabre has faster acceleration than a4e back then but now a4e (with 1gunpod+2aim9b) feels a lot faster than sabre now, especially when taking off (im not using the rocket booster in a4e)
Is the J7E worth it right now? I started grinding the Chinese tech tree to get it, and what jet(non-premiun) is good to begginers? because I'm also kinda new to jet as I barely played them in the past and I'm used to props only.
i love the way the Sabres just ejaculate their bullets through their 6 guns in a pure laser stream of piss. It's so satisfying watching them shred anything in their way after you drain someone else's balls of their energy.
The thing that i hate is that you have to exert all of your power to win against a mig 15 while they simply need to turn. The mig 15 is a straight ufo right now with how it performs, out turning, out running, and out energy-ing every at and even above its br.
I skipped all the early F-86s and only flew the top ones (and started with the CL-13... the game only had 1 of those back than, but i might revisit the B). The F-86s are way too "old-school" for the BR (not as much as the Ariete or the Sagitario on 9.3 so FU GAYjin).
Forgot to mention:
A-5 Sabre also doesn't have the all flying tail like the F models.so it locks up a bit faster at high speed
First
Udd How the fuck @@f0x_rblxplays855
What about the F-35 Sabre?
@@f0x_rblxplays855 we dont care
happy birthday yo
"SAAB-105OEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
-DEFYN 5:00
OOOOEEEEEEEE
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A-5 carried me through rank 5. It was one of my first attempts at really learning jets. For all her faults she is still a solid performer. Got my first jet ace in her.
i got my first 10 kill by staying in her, i could really feel her power in me
Got her today 😁
I felt her coming into every enemy I faced
WHAT, AN ACE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW. I ONLY GET A KILL LIKE ONCE EVERY 5 GAMES IN IT
@@NathanielNerquaye-Tetteh-uz2nf trans F-86
THE 5 inn A5 stands for the amount of kills defyn gets while dog fighting your mom (literally )
HAHAHAHAHHAHA
Stop dick riding bro...
@@chickendude1695thank you 💀 why did I write A
I prefer to read it as "while a dog _is_ fighting your mom"
i thought you mean figuratively dogfighting?
Got to 4:58 to see defyn make a mentally insane noise
A fine addition to those DEFYN without context compilations
Defyn yoda
I was looking for this exact comment I thought I was the only one who noticed 😂😂😂
you bringing up the cl13 reminded me that 9.0-9.3 has so many cool and interesting planes that are basically unplayable because of the matchmaker. it really makes me wish i used to play this game before this happened, Id love to play those planes 4 years ago. it’s so sad i wish gaijin would fix this.
Missile thunder (and the F-104) has been a disaster for the human race
@@cheekibreeki4638 the 104 is annoying as all hell for sure and drags out games forever. that alone isn’t enough to stop it from being fun to play those planes. it’s definitely the all aspect missiles/18g and above missiles. Also for the case of 9.3’s you are basically 100% guaranteed to get uptiered into 10.3 every game because of the f5c. a lot of the planes around are going to have missiles that are at least aim 9j or better and you of course don’t have flares. and because of the compression you’re gonna be fighting aircraft that are way more capable and that includes the f5c’s, they are too good and you’ll be facing them every game. it really is so sad because it would be my favorite bracket to play if it wasn’t getting railed by compression and a 100% up tier chance because of premium spam. those planes were never meant to go up against missiles that good otherwise they would’ve had flares. they gotta either decompress the brs or give them flares that they didn’t have irl.
@@shingrandfather None of them will happen Gaijin just likes to keep those planes as food for superior premiums. Accept your fate and die to an F5C today.
@killme4569 and then there r people who say the mig23bn doesnt need flares too.
It has no way of facing anyone and has to try to run away everytime bcuz no miss or flares
N only 200 Ammo
I am amazed you even managed to get matched into these games, for me I am consistently against super sonics with missiles and my team is all squadron A4Es with bombs
same problems
Love the stroke with the Saab 105 :D
Wtf happened 😂
@@flvffette OEEEEEEE
rocket planes really should just pop when you hit them, their absolut gimicks and should be ballanced as such
damm i wanna go back to time before supersonics. actually take me back to the time before first sold premium jets
Flying trick from a glider pilot : you lack engine power, gravity is still your best friend
Unless your overweight that is
Now play the CL.13 Mk 4. It has air conditioning!
I already have AC in my car
the players need to band together to get its BR raised again
@@DeInHo77fr fr air conditioning is a bit overpowered
@@DEFYNcar v car dogfight when
5:40 quote of the day
thats crazy i literally just unlocked this and have been struggling. Perfect timing, banger as usual! First plane I ever put your decal on too. Happy Birthday!
I wish you a happy b-day my main man Defyn, i can't thank you enough for your service to this community, your videos have teached me and continue to teach me so much about what i wanna learn in this game, and that combined with your goofy dry humor that i can only imagine you pull straight outta your ass sometimes, makes you probably my favorite WT CC
I really hate the rat rocket squad clip at the end. It sums up so many of my games. You get infinite hits with guns that won’t do anything and then they just do a tactical fighting retreat back to their airfields and leave you with no ammo, no fuel, and nothing to show for it.
6:13 I really didn't like the A28B at first but it quickly became one of my favorite jets (and higher k/d ratio as I learned the game) but if you're ever getting "Vultured" like this from a f86 or a Mig15 just ignore them and extend or call for help. you can just pitch roll or dodge there guns because they will usually try and zoom you try to reverse the faster jet :)
Don't try and follow the energy trap because it's a trap.
Anyways the takeaway from that comment is, get comfortable flying with your camera behind you.
It used to be so good at 7.7 but then it went to 8.0 and gets 9.0 matches 90% of the time now. I aced it in like, 2 weeks
5:00 another sound clip to add to my collection
Every single time that fucking Tim Allen noise catches me off guard.
Happy Birthday DEFYN, the best air content creator on war thunder, love what you do keep it up
all good bro Happy early birthday!! enjoy your time and your internet going down, no biggie we'll all be here when you get back! Be safe and see you soon!
Happy birthday Defyn! It's amazing to see how much this channel has grown in the past year. You've put in a heap of work. It's definitely made me a better pilot, and I'm glad it's paying off for you.
Next step is merch!
I would rather die than buying merch from a dude on the interweb
I love how he turns into Scooby-Doo when pronouncing the Saab-105OE! Happy birthday, wish you more success in life and on youtube!
Surprisingly, I prefer the default rounds when it comes to American .50 cals on jets. With the majority being ap, you have a much greater chance of hitting multiple components or even pilot sniping
i just take ground targets because you either instantly set someone on fire or completely cripple them or you jeffery epstein their pilot
The AP and the API / APIT rounds onky have a difference in pen of 1mm
@@Tobias-wb6kd that's what the stat card says, but they seem to perform better in practice
@@zacharymurphy2099 Probably just placebo. Also the fact that you don't have a laser stream of tracers might either help or just makes it seem like you shot less for the same result.
Of course you upload this after i've moved on to the starfighter, can't wait to see how i played this plane wrong the entire time lmao
F104A next week :^)
@@DEFYN ayyyyyyy, also i can't believe using rockets on the f104c as flairs for headons actually works lol
That 163 dude, that is not 50 cals not doing all too much dammage at times, at this moment it is just War Thunder being... War Thunder
Time can never mend
The careless whispers of a good friend
To the heart and mind
Ignorance is kind
There's no comfort in the truth
Pain is all I'll find.
This is perfect, just got this yesterday
Happy birthday dude !
5:01 I should’ve known better than to watch a Defyn video while eating
Happy birthday boss, thanks for doing these videos
F stands for what you type in the chat when you get uptiered in this thing
Man i was waiting for this lol
Oh well, Happy Birthday! I really enjoy your vids and have been actually helping me improve with my gameplay too. So cheers! And have a good one!
The reason for the lower roll rate of the F-40 is the increased mass that came from the wing tip extensions.
Hope you have a great birthday Defyn, thanks for all the work you have done making us better pilots in this game :D
5:00
That shit genuinely startled me
The amount of inhales within the first minute
Longer wingspan = more lift and thus more adverse yaw when deflecting aileron decreasing roll rate
5:00 DEFYN scooby doo jumpscare (warning: super scary, i cried so hard 😭)
Get this man to 100k.
260000 Big Mac’s with extra sauce on top 🤣🤣🤣
happy birthday defyn love your vids your air vids are amazing and that saab caused you to have a stroke
Happy birthday defyn!!!
I got the A-5 a while ago.... cant do well in it because i suck at jet combat, and piston engined plane combat.... and..... you get my point.... how do you know all about the planes you're fighting? their optimal climb rate, their turn rate, their max speed, their energy retention.... etc? It seems you know all that stuff about every plane in the game once you see it
years of playing both with and against goes a long way
He probably has like 10k hours in this game.
Experience, the best way to counter a plane is knowing how it flyes, what can do and what can't do. Warthunder learning curve is horrible! an absolute horror, that's why flying with experienced pilots will get you good in a short time (compared to fliying solo). EDIT: And some planes are just busted and broken, and there are BR branches that are horrible to play like, 5.0 to 6.3, or 9.0 to 10.0, and 11.0 to 12.0, in the first one is now plagued with JU 288 and the fights are super boring, the other ones there are aircrafts that are powercreeped to death because of BR compression. Warthunder is a game that is very unfair most of the time.
Its just experience and I am rather lucky that I just remember it all very easily.
I can gauge a plane by playing a handful of games mostly.
Most important thing is to fly a variaty of vehicles and so you know what ur up against. And yes I have 3000 hours in planes or something
It comes with playing the vehicle extensively and finding the style that fits it. What I do with a new vehicle is:
-On take off see what speed and how long it takes to lift off.
-Lift the nose slightly til I start slowing my acceleration.
-Once at about 2000-3000m alt, I level out and let it get to cruising speed.
-While at/approaching cruise speed, I test control surfaces (roll, pitch, yaw)
-I test a dive to see how bad it locks up and how safe it is to push it past it’s speed rating.
This is how I get a basic feel for the aircraft. Once I have that, then I begin stress testing it by flying it in a way it hates to find the way it prefers to fly
the Saber in the game for the last 27 years think it has been 30 since i was in grade school
3:40 no, that guy didnt deny the kill. Full L
I've had many similar experiences with .50 cals just giving me nothing against most jets. I don't know what it is but their damage feels a lot higher against props. Could just be that props being slower means you always get way more rounds on target but it feels like there's something else there too.
Also highly based Alaskan skin
Well, MG151/20 M-geschoss vs F89B - nothing to the part hit, the part of the wing a bit further got super-lightly yellow. Jets have insanely tough damage models.
MG151s are kind of broken right now though. They're way weaker than they should be, and are probably the weakest 20mm in the game right now, even with mine rounds. I would believe that Jets have tough damage models, however
Happy Birthday Defyn
Day 1 of asking DEFYN to hit the griddy
"It's very hard to miss the shot"
Ah, but you're not me
Thanks i just got my first sabre and this helped
This thing got me to the F-4C back when that was still a decent plane
Happy birthday 🥛
The 9.0 CL13 is amazing
5:00 xD OOOEEEE
Word up birthday you got the same birthday as me. Ha. Hope its a great one for ya 🎉!
An idea for something when you either dont have the footage you want or something is a series where you go over the differences in model in detail and how they impact and change performance from one another. There are so many different models of almost the same plane that it can be hard to know the intricacies and the wiki is either general or just kind of ass.
Marvellous plane, love the 50 cal. These non missile matches are so nice, aren't they?
Happy early birthday!!!
happy early birthday Defyn
is sabre nerfed 6 month ago? i remember sabre has faster acceleration than a4e back then but now a4e (with 1gunpod+2aim9b) feels a lot faster than sabre now, especially when taking off (im not using the rocket booster in a4e)
Is it just me or is Defyn really quiet in this one?
Sounds quiet to me.
I got a talisman on this thing, i literally learned to fight anything i could see 1v1. Its a banger of a plane.
Happy early birthday!
Is the J7E worth it right now? I started grinding the Chinese tech tree to get it, and what jet(non-premiun) is good to begginers? because I'm also kinda new to jet as I barely played them in the past and I'm used to props only.
If its 10.7 or below 100% if it’s 11.0 75% worth it
and welcome back
Subtitles: "... of approximately 260,000 Big Max with some extra SS on top"
Alllllllllright
that me 163 pissed me off so much. i hate it when 50 cals dont work, especially when you hit that guy multiple times but hes still able to go 700kph
Man I feel the pain with those 50 cal hits
w vid as always
i love the way the Sabres just ejaculate their bullets through their 6 guns in a pure laser stream of piss. It's so satisfying watching them shred anything in their way after you drain someone else's balls of their energy.
6:26 So you have 717,974,400,000 joules of energy over him?
yeah give or take
Love me some snoot snoot jets
Happy birthday. 🙂
5:00 lol
what was the OEUOSUEEEE there defyn?
Can I get an OEUOUSUEEEE
@@DEFYN OEUOUSUEEEE
Happy Birthday, you are my favorite sussy Dutch rookworst B)
Good video! Outro a bit deafening compared to your talking level. Like twice as loud.
Could you play the Br 693AB2 it’s a very chubby baguette?
sabre gaming
but yeah happy early bday bro
The thing that i hate is that you have to exert all of your power to win against a mig 15 while they simply need to turn. The mig 15 is a straight ufo right now with how it performs, out turning, out running, and out energy-ing every at and even above its br.
I skipped all the early F-86s and only flew the top ones (and started with the CL-13... the game only had 1 of those back than, but i might revisit the B). The F-86s are way too "old-school" for the BR (not as much as the Ariete or the Sagitario on 9.3 so FU GAYjin).
Recently grinded rank 5 with this plane
REALLY REALLY SOLID PLANE xdd
5:01 , that’s it that’s the comment
Sabre VS Mig?
I bet this is Defyn's favourite jet that is compressed at a horrible BR.
8.3 isnt *thaat* bad compression wise, and you don't get uptiered every game.
8.7, 9.0 god forbid 9.3 is a different story
That honor probably goes to the F-86F-2 given he has some 3,000 kills in it
The biggest downside are your teammates. I find that I’m constantly fighting a 1v3-8 because my teammates are in Timbuktu fingering eachother
Gefeliciteerd;)
how to deal with the 163. Just wait 10 min till their land and farm them on the runway
w vid
10mins of fuel is enough, you either ride or die
The CL mk.6 is a poor Girl.
Jepicus
Where is my f104a video Defyn? you promised it 3 videos ago :(
Moral of the story if you see defyn's flag dont engage
This hurt to watch. I had to play the italian cl mk 4 at 8.7. Worst month of WT trying to get the sagg.
Yup... But downtiers are not existing...
F-86 game is probably always guided rocket era
Defyn when will the giveaway winner be announced as it wasn't mentioned in the sea hawk video?
It was announced
And to save you the trouble the winner has already contacted so its over for now
@@DEFYN ok thank you
Can you try the MB5 next please? Maybe i can learn a trick or two from you^^