Install LP Smartside Siding On A Shed: How To Build A Shed ep 17
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- Опубликовано: 9 окт 2018
- Come learn how you can build your own shed! In this video I show how to install LP Smartside lap siding on a shed.
This video series will show you step-by-step everything required to build an 8' x 16' shed. Are you going to build a shed too? Mash that subscribe button to follow along!
Materials needed:
Lap Siding
Siding Sealant
Exterior rated caulk
Siding nails
Finish nails
Tools required:
Saw
Tape measure
Carpenter's square
Hammer or nail gun
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Great Job, Good to see how to install LP Smart Side. Liked the spray on primer you used, good idea
Great looking shed. I like that drive through aspect!
Primer looks amazing on the ends
I need to Putin New siding in my house and this video is just great for info. Thank you so much Sr.
Thanks for posting, much appreciated
for the small pieces of siding you can use a block of wood with 7 inch notch or a piece of plywood with a block mounted 7 inches from the top of the plywood gauge, good video
Try considering backer rod, for large gaps, then caulk over the backer rod.
Thanks for the video! 👍
That's a nice looking shed.
Specially the caulking.
I like the spray primer idea. I would use a 5/4 trim so that the siding overlap isn't sticking out past the trim boards
Very informative video.
Looks good 👍
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«Красавчик», great !
That ‘triangle’ is called a square. Sorry, I had to say it. Haha! Great job! You did fantastic. Thanks for sharing.
LOL - did I call it a triangle? Duh. It’s amazing how dumb I become when being recorded. Thanks for watching!
@@AmplifyDIY its call a square but to me should be call like you said triangle
This almost made me quit watching the video
@@anthonyz7327 Yeah, even in Spanish we call it Escuadra. Thanks for your excellent explanation.
Muy bonito trabajo felicitaciones
Nice job
Really great video, as that is one of my next steps on a recently built shed. I was a little thrown off by calling your speed square a "triangle". Great video
Yeah, it's surprisingly hard to talk / use correct terms when on camera. Thanks for overlooking my obvious mistake in wording, and I hope your shed turns out great!
Good job
Good shit 👍
Good video explanation for those of us with no experience with this siding. I'd like to know how you made that window above the door. I'm trying to refurbish a older shed and I need to install vents in this Florida heat.
Hi Samuel - I did a whole video on that window here: ruclips.net/video/QW29bAn4szk/видео.html - enjoy!
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I didn’t see you use flashing above the shed door header, the transom window, or the gable vent. Did you use any?
Thank you
Good job! I currently have horizontal lap boards on my garage (old and ugly) Question: is it ok to apply Smart siding over it? or do I have to remove old boards? I'd like to keep the Horizontal
boards for structural wall support and apply Smart siding over it. Thanks for any advice!
If the existing boards overlap each other, you should remove them first. Good luck!
Was the vertical trim on the corners just a piece of siding which you ripped down the middle or are there actually separate pieces for the trim you buy?
Those are actually separate pieces of trim that I bought. Thanks for watching!
What type of air gun and nails can I use
the siding gaugers could be built with just wood if you don't want to mess with the metal.
1 tip for you, get a longer spirit level haha
Great videos though, really helped with my project
Thanks for the tip!
Look at the box of caulking what it says about the fingers.
Did the cap head nails on the house wrap interfere with any courses of siding?
Not at all. They actually suck down pretty flush when you sink the nail fully. Great question!
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thank you. isn’t it required to have rain screen/drainage installed behind siding?
Hi Volkan - it depends on local codes. Here, that is not required, but I've heard from a few international viewers that it is where they live. Thanks for watching!
Great Job! what size board is this and how much overlap did you have on each board?
I used the 8" wide boards in 16 foot lengths. I don't recall the exact amount of overlap - but I followed the manufacturer instructions... seems like it was around 3/4" or so. May have been a little more or a little less. Thanks!
@@AmplifyDIY Thank you I appreciate it this
Should I buy 3/8s or 7/16
Can you update on how the expansion gap sealant is holding up, that's what everyone is wondering. Thanks.
It's holding up perfectly.
Wo you prime the ends, do you prime the cut edges on the trim?
+Tim Fergel yes, you should. I am pretty sure I did, but may not have caught it on camera.
Yes you need to Prime ALL cuts... I don't think he did any on the trim as you can see bare ends on every cut he has and they will fail over time..
Wouldnt filling the expansion gap with caulk disallow for expansion?
No, this specific caulk allows for compression and expansion. It’s designed specifically for this use case.
What type of gun and nails did you use? Thank you
I used a regular framing nailer, because that's what I had available. For nails I used the shortest the gun would accept - 1.5", as I recall. A siding nailer would have been a better option, but ya run whatcha brung, amirite?
Question - been told by a number of people to use batons between the OSB and the cladding to allow for airflow, otherwise condensation on the inside of the cladding would cause it to rot.
Is it that the material you're using for the cladding allows the direct attachment, while wooden shiplap would not, or is it the climate you live in - drier, so less concern about this issue?
The siding material I used is very common in my area, and does not require any batons. It also happens to be a relatively low humidity area here as well, with very little condensation. In your case, I'd call a local lumber or building supply store and ask what they recommend for your climate. Great question, and good luck!
Question. What kind of nail and nail gun can you use?
I used a standard framing nailer with 2” or 2-1/4” nails.
What kind of nails are you use boby fos siding
I was using a framing nailer, with the shortest nails it could handle - I believe they were 1.5" nails. I adjusted the nailer so that it did not sink the head of the nail below the surface of the siding.
What nails are you using?
Just wonder the coner cover , does it have e a piece that premake 90° or using 2 pieces nails together?
Hi Pedro - I'm not entirely clear what you are asking, but I'm pretty sure I used 2 pieces to form all the corner covers. I did not have any pre-made 90º pieces of trim. Thanks for watching!
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I swear you gave the husky P/N of the paint gun somewhere but cant find in now (in ep 18 either)
Hi Keith - I remember putting it somewhere, but it may be lost in the comments. or in the description or parts list for a different part of this build. However, I just checked the HD website and I'm pretty sure they still sell the same gun. Model number is: H4840GHVSG
Good luck!
what kind of gun do you use to do the job thanks
I used a standard framing nailer, with 2.5" galvanized smooth shank nails. Thanks for watching!
After caulking we can see the colours of grey over the actual cour of the siding. After drying do we have to paint?
Rprakaash - The siding I installed came pre-primed, but not painted. I installed the siding, then caulked, then painted the entire structure. So short answer: yes, you can and should paint the caulk to match the paint on the siding. Good luck!
@@AmplifyDIY makes Sense what you are saying. Great Job. It would be nice if it.came.painted and the caulk matching the.paints. wouldn't it?
What type gun.bails and size. Thats the most important thing the Tool !!!!
What kind of nailing gun and gauge you used?
Hi Bhadz - I used a standard framing nailer with the shortest nails it would accept - 1 3/4", I believe. It would have been better to use a siding nailer, but you gotta use what you have, right? Make sure you set the depth so the heads of the nails don't go deep into the siding. Thanks for watching!
What is the name for the tools that hold the board ??? I need to get those ,,,,,,
Those are called siding gauges, and they are really easy to build if you want to save a bunch of money: ruclips.net/video/Q2U4BiYbb7s/видео.html
Also has incorrect ground clearances. It requires 6 inches from the ground to avoid rot.
You might spend 35$ on a gecko gauge but you only need one and it will last you years if you take care of it. And i always just use a hand held gauge to match the lap size to put where i am nailing. Never heard anyone call a speed square a triangle lol. Cool video though, how does the lp siding hold up over time?
Heh. Yeah, triangle. Talking on camera is harder than it looks 😂 I opted to build my own because I knew I was only going to ever need these for this one job. I don’t have any plans to put up siding ever again… And I would’ve needed two of them, since I was working alone. Of course if you’re going to be doing siding more than once, it really does make sense to buy the proper tools.
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How did you measure the angles
Hi Ian - I usually just held up the piece I was intending to install and marked it based on the spot where it was going. If the piece would not fit into the spot at all, I measured the length and height at both ends of the spot where it was going, then roughly cut the board. Then held up the board and marked to trim to fit as needed.
Good luck!
Is there a certain inches that each nail should be apart when putting on a piece
You should put in a nail on each stud.
AmplifyDIY by stud you mean the studs from the house right?
Great job! Too bad you can’t get a backhoe back there anymore
Heh. Here's hoping I never need to get a backhoe back there... but if I do, there's actually access on the other side of the house. Thanks for watching!
Hello where did u get the material and why did u go with ?Is wood more expensive.
I picked up the material at a local lumber supply company called BMC West. I had to use a specific product with a specific look to match my house to keep my HOA happy. I believe the cost was comparable to real wood, but don’t recall for sure.
@@AmplifyDIY Thank U very much ima use this material as well!
@@AmplifyDIY Cool I have a Bmc in Santa Clarita ca! Thanks for the response!
Have fun cauLking all that.
Looks great tho
Did you have to adjust the depth of the nails on your nail gun? What kind of nails are you using?
Great questions! Yes, I adjusted the depth on my nail gun so that it just barely put the head flush with the surface of the siding. I used 2" nails for this install, as that is the shortest my gun would fire. Thanks for watching!
What kind and size nails did you use?
I believe I used 1.5" galvanized - the shortest my nail gun would accept. Good luck!
Is it necessary to install sheathing un horizontal siding on a shed?
Sheathing acts as reinforcement for shear stresses (think, strong wind blowing) on your wall which help keep it much more stable / sturdy. If you didn't add any OSB or other sheathing under the siding, the whole structure would be much less strong. Siding is mostly for water proofing / exterior look. Generally when you install lap siding as I did in this video, you need sheathing underneath.
@@AmplifyDIY thank you
How is this holding up with such close contact to the ground? The manufacturer specifies 6" from finished grade...
Hi Daniel! The siding is holding up great! 6" is a little extreme, if you ask me. Even on my actual house, they were installed as close as 2" from the ground in a few places with no issue. Good luck with your install!
@@AmplifyDIY gotcha, I agree 6" is too much. I'm doing a small section where my smaller garage abuts the side of the house to test the product. Do the expansion gaps fill in as advertised after time?
@@I2aMpAnT I actually have not really noticed the gaps closing up much. I assume they do more on a much longer wall, with multiple pieces butted together along the length. Since I was only installing a single 16' long piece in each course, the expansion has been minimal.
Good luck with your project!
Don't the tacks pierce the water protection?
Yes, they do... but: that membrane is designed to let water vapor *out* of the shed, while providing some liquid ingress protection. The areas where the nails through the siding go through this membrane are protected by the siding itself.
In other words: nails/fasteners through the Tyvek are no big deal. Thanks for watching!
Probably coulda done a 1car garage there
Unfortunately, not quite. A garage would need about 3 more feet of width, but due to easements/building codes I could not make one fit. Thanks for watching!
Woah. WOAH!!! Who wears THOSE gloves to caulk!!!
People who don't like cleaning caulk out from under their fingernails?
Where the buy tools. For separed space the siding
I built my own: ruclips.net/video/Q2U4BiYbb7s/видео.html
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What does this product cost per sq ft in canada
Maybe you should ask the store instead of YT commenters.
What kind of nails you used for the gun .
2" galvanized
Is that siding nail gun or framing nail gun
It's a framing nailer with 2" nails.
Why put the trim up first? Will that not create a place for what're to get in?
No, you caulk the siding to the trim which forms a waterproof seal. The trim cannot be installed over the top of the siding, as that would leave huge gaps. Installing the trim makes it easier to measure for the exact size you need for the siding. Thanks for watching!
@@AmplifyDIY thank you. I have a project that I'm considering using lap siding on. Big help, thanks again.
I’m no builder but you didn’t nail in the bottom of each siding. Over time, won’t the siding flex and cause gaps?
You are not supposed to nail it at the bottom, as any nail holes there could cause water to penetrate behind the siding. It does flex a bit, but mostly in the horizontal direction, not vertically. I've never seen siding like this warp when correctly installed this way.
What materials are used to build a shed?
Hi John - in the descriptions of each of the videos in my shed build series I list the materials used. Choices vary, of course, but in general I used 2x4 lumber for the frame, OSB sheets for the walls, fiberboard for siding and exterior trim pieces, standard shingled roof. Thanks for watching!
Not bad next tme make sure don't use vented soffit on pitches they go on level areas
Paint brush with water to smooth the caulk..use a light touch and you don’t remove caulk
For water soluble caulks I’d agree with you, but this stuff is definitely not supposed to get wet until it has cured.
I don’t understand how it can expand a quarter on either end of you are nailing them directly through the piece itself
As the board expands, it can move the wall joists with it. They allow a certain amount of flex, and the combined force of all the siding can easily expand that much across a 16' span, given a strong enough swing in temperature and humidity. Typically, they won't expand anywhere near that much, but in theory the could.
What type of nail gun
I just used my standard framing nailer with the shortest nails it would accept - 1.5", and set the depth to get the nail head just barely indented into the siding face.
What size and type of nails are you using?
2.5" galvanized. Thanks for watching!
AmplifyDIY awesome, smooth shank?
Yup, smooth shank. Good luck with yours!
The "Triangle" as you refer to it is a speed square, which is 3/16" thick, not 1/4". Also, had you increased the reveal on each course of siding a minute amount you would not have to worry about the trim at top.
Yes, it is a speed square, of course... talking on camera is harder than it looks. I frequently call things by the wrong name just because I'm a bit flustered.... I usually catch them and re-state, but missed that one. Thanks for watching!
Looks like you were using the wrong trim. The thinner 440 trim is for panel siding. The 540 (1" thick actual) trim is for lap siding. The bottoms of the lap panels should not extend past the thickness of the trim.
Good tip. Thanks!
Great. That’s what I need to know. The question is where to get 1” trim. Could you tell me if this is the 540 series trim? www.homedepot.com/p/SmartSide-1-in-x-4-in-x-8-ft-Tan-Textured-Composite-Trim-25879/300015533 I see it at my Home Depot, but when I measure it, the actual thickness is less than 0.75”, doesn’t seem thick enough for the lap siding.
Corner and window trim needs to be 5/4 thick trim board. Never 3/4.
Yeah, I wish I’d known this or gotten better advice before I built it. Unfortunately, I followed the recommendation from my local building supply. Next time I’ll know better.
Yeah the lapsiding was protruding beyond the trim. Good video though, I like the opening on either end of the shed
he forgot to mention to cut the siding 1/2" shorter than the length of the wall to allow 1/4" on both sides for expansion.
Excuse my ignorance but expansion for what? Or when. Thanks in advance.
Wood can expand/contract depending on the weather.
Did I? I'm pretty sure I demonstrated making sure you leave a gap, and used my square to set that gap. Other commenters have complained that I made the expansion gaps too large.... Thanks for bringing this up. You should absolutely leave expansion gaps.
@@AmplifyDIY I heard you say leave a gap on each end.
Level 2 f.?????
I'd like to see the videos by all those complained.
NO SHIT!
Could have used a chalk line to mark your studs.
True. Good tip!
@@AmplifyDIY going to make the brackets you posted, I am hanging hardi plank and these would be helpful
Too much caulk maintenance.
i didnt see any flashing.
That air vent is awfully close to that 14.5" tall window. I'm guessing it doesn't snow there.
I'm not sure what you are talking about - my windows are only about 6" tall, and I don't understand how the vent being close to a window will have anything to do with snow....
@@AmplifyDIY Lintels (header) distribute the load over a window to the jack studs. Windows aren't designed to support any load. That could be to code where you live but it's definitely not here in Canada.
Most important information missing, How many inches are you overlapping?
The amount of overlap you need depends entirely on the reveal you want: in my case, I had to match the reveal of my house. I don’t recall the exact amount of overlap this left, but I think it was around 1.25” or so.
Where is rain screens? In Canada according to building cod should install first rain screen than siding . Sorry sir
I don’t live in Canada.
Step 1: Buy a 6 foot level for $20.
Eh, the one I used is fine for a job this small. Had I been doing something much larger or planned to build lots of these, investing in a longer level would definitely be worth it.
@@AmplifyDIY its still worth it. Buy it
That's was fist thing I thought
You dont need to paint the edges if caulk is going on the ends
The instructions say to seal any exposed edges - caulking is probably sufficient, but in case the caulking ever shrinks, cracks, or otherwise loses a watertight seal with the ends, I'd much rather have the ends sealed with primer as well.
@@AmplifyDIY yeah better safe is best. We usually use the recommended DAP Dinaflex color match caulk that Diamond Kote prefers for caulking so that's probably why we dont worry about it where I work
Get a6 ft level
Certainly a longer level would have been more precise, but I don't already have one, could not easily borrow one, and could not justify spending the money on a new one just for this one project. The level I used worked fine, and I'm happy with the results.
If I was building large stuff more often, I'd definitely invest in a 6' level. But for just one shed? Nah, the one I have is fine.
Thanks for watching!
@@AmplifyDIY also a chalk line
Never put big nails in the trim is a bad job
Wheres the air gap??
Haha in the US less than 1 percent of homes have an air gap. Its stupid I know
Yeah, no idea what you mean about an air gap. Do you mean to put a gap between the siding and the wall sheathing? Is that common in other parts of the world? It's not how this siding is supposed to be installed....
I am surprised there are no vertical battens to ensure space for ventilation and drainage...
In the kitchen sink
3/16 gap 3/8 to much
Why would you use this and have to paint it all which means maintenance down the road to repaint.
Unfortunately I'm required by my HOA to match my house colors, design, and materials.
Good instruction and video, however I hate the product. The gaps required look terrible.
OSB over OSB? Bro, I wish I was as rich as you are
Huh? You mean how I installed the siding over the OSB? That's how you have to install it....
@@AmplifyDIY the purpose of OSB in walls to prevent rocking of a structure and this siding as strong as shits of OSB underneath for me putting those shits with such siding waste of time and money. Never mind I am cheap
I rather use wood putty for the nails holes the coulquing is only for the gaps
Wood putty would work nicely as well. Thanks for watching!
Dude, there's overspray on the visible side of the ends. WTF?
Overspray didn't matter. These boards come primed, and I was only adding more primer to the cut ends. After install I painted the entire shed.
The siding ends stick out beyond the trim, because the trim isn’t thick enough to yield the appropriate reveal. Have a look at other installations on RUclips.