I think it's worth mentioning that there are some rare occasions where putting the cable in before or while the drywall is going in is ideal(or the only way aside from racetrack), which is going to depend on the walk through. Such as there is no drop ceiling and there is planned soffits that impede you from getting close to the wall, and no hatches nearby to help get it down the vertical. One occasion was small rooms in an old residential house converted for commercial use, wood construction walls, many fireblocks, no ceiling entries. Got access before the drywall got in and used the opportunity to run the cables, while the drywall was being put in and the mud didn't get on yet. We took off some drywall in some places to adjust our run then put them back. Also went through some areas where soffits were planning to be that would just totally mess us up if we did it after they were put in.
You're absolutely right. There are some rare occasions where the cable should go in first before the drywall goes up. If the building has a sealed ceilings you must cable before the drywall goes up. If your cabling "wood" (2X4) construction rather than "metal" (2X4) construction you must cable first before the drywall goes up. 99% of commercial buildings are "medal". I agree with your statements. Thank you for your comments and thank you for watching.
Great video, I just open my own company, I have a month in, after 15 years in the business as a tech. I am already going thru some of the situations you have described. The video was very informative. Thank you
Learn a lot on this video, I am planning to start my own business here in New Zealand, and I already bought few materials from you. i am always waiting for new video. Thanks Jim.
I have been doing this kind of work since 1996. Jim you are right on target. I go by the same rules. A hand shake is a hand shake. Do it right or don't do it. Semper Fi Brother.
I hope you started your new business by now. I have a RUclips channel called "entrepreneurs WITH trucks" I'm going to be dealing with the issues of starting and running an IT business check it out. Thanks for watching the video. Sorry it's taken so long to respond.
Great info, been doing resi and commercial AV/Net/Security integration for 15 years, we design, wire, sell equipment, install, and service. Owned my own business for 11 years. All your info is great.. BUT, running wire after drywall and grid is really not common or efficient. Way to time consuming. You will need to charge much more in this case to cover labor time. Thanks for taking the time to post this info though.
I beg to differ. Running the cabling after drywall is how I've always done it. In new construction, I can fish the wall as fast as I can terminate two jacks. And like the man said, the drywall guys don't care about your wire at all.
Do you charge per drop or do you figure the bid by an hourly rate? I read the national average per drop is $200 - $150 for the pull, plus another $50 for termination/wall plate installation. Not including materials.
Great info. One question- for example average how much will you charge for ten drops two cable per drop in commercial building with ceiling tides. In Bay Area California
Thanks for watching. Can't say for your location but it take me, on average about one-and-a half hours per drop. For two drops add 45minuts per location. If you love my videos Please subscribe!! it will help my channel Thanks
Jim great video , I was wondering about your comment with respect to cabling after drywall, I actually don’t do network cabling , so no jacks but I do card access and ip surveillance so most of my work besides the doors ends up above the grid anyways if you wire post dry wall do you try to sneak in before tape and paint , work around it at same time or do you come in after that?
It is much easier to cable after the drywall is installed. I use professional cabling "fishing rods" to cable walls with insulation. We sell these rods on our website www. Cablesupply.com. Pulling cable down the wall once the drywall is complete is not a problem in commercial type of construction. Once you have the cabling done and pulled to the location where you need it the painters can do their job. After to the painting is done put on the faceplate the Jack or any equipment you're using. This is the best way, the fastest way and the neatest way to Cable a drywall.
There are to many variables to give you an answer on this format. I am starting a membership portal. I will include things like this for people who want more detail and specific information. Hope you join. Thanks for watching! Please subscribe!
I think it's worth mentioning that there are some rare occasions where putting the cable in before or while the drywall is going in is ideal(or the only way aside from racetrack), which is going to depend on the walk through. Such as there is no drop ceiling and there is planned soffits that impede you from getting close to the wall, and no hatches nearby to help get it down the vertical. One occasion was small rooms in an old residential house converted for commercial use, wood construction walls, many fireblocks, no ceiling entries. Got access before the drywall got in and used the opportunity to run the cables, while the drywall was being put in and the mud didn't get on yet. We took off some drywall in some places to adjust our run then put them back. Also went through some areas where soffits were planning to be that would just totally mess us up if we did it after they were put in.
You're absolutely right. There are some rare occasions where the cable should go in first before the drywall goes up. If the building has a sealed ceilings you must cable before the drywall goes up. If your cabling "wood" (2X4) construction rather than "metal" (2X4) construction you must cable first before the drywall goes up. 99% of commercial buildings are "medal". I agree with your statements. Thank you for your comments and thank you for watching.
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Very informative Jim! Great information.
Great video, I just open my own company, I have a month in, after 15 years in the business as a tech. I am already going thru some of the situations you have described. The video was very informative. Thank you
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Learn a lot on this video, I am planning to start my own business here in New Zealand, and I already bought few materials from you.
i am always waiting for new video. Thanks Jim.
I have been doing this kind of work since 1996. Jim you are right on target. I go by the same rules.
A hand shake is a hand shake. Do it right or don't do it. Semper Fi Brother.
I hope you started your new business by now. I have a RUclips channel called "entrepreneurs WITH trucks" I'm going to be dealing with the issues of starting and running an IT business check it out. Thanks for watching the video. Sorry it's taken so long to respond.
going to check out your website
Great video...helped alot...starting a commercial project with over 200 plenum cat5e drops soon
Glad it helped!
Great info, been doing resi and commercial AV/Net/Security integration for 15 years, we design, wire, sell equipment, install, and service. Owned my own business for 11 years. All your info is great.. BUT, running wire after drywall and grid is really not common or efficient. Way to time consuming. You will need to charge much more in this case to cover labor time. Thanks for taking the time to post this info though.
Thanks for sharing!
I beg to differ. Running the cabling after drywall is how I've always done it. In new construction, I can fish the wall as fast as I can terminate two jacks. And like the man said, the drywall guys don't care about your wire at all.
Do you charge per drop or do you figure the bid by an hourly rate?
I read the national average per drop is $200 - $150 for the pull, plus another $50 for termination/wall plate installation. Not including materials.
I have usually charged per drop, Parts included, labor included, One price.
Great info. One question- for example average how much will you charge for ten drops two cable per drop in commercial building with ceiling tides. In Bay Area California
Thanks for watching. Can't say for your location but it take me, on average about one-and-a half hours per drop. For two drops add 45minuts per location. If you love my videos Please subscribe!! it will help my channel Thanks
Jim great video , I was wondering about your comment with respect to cabling after drywall, I actually don’t do network cabling , so no jacks but I do card access and ip surveillance so most of my work besides the doors ends up above the grid anyways if you wire post dry wall do you try to sneak in before tape and paint , work around it at same time or do you come in after that?
It is much easier to cable after the drywall is installed. I use professional cabling "fishing rods" to cable walls with insulation. We sell these rods on our website www. Cablesupply.com. Pulling cable down the wall once the drywall is complete is not a problem in commercial type of construction. Once you have the cabling done and pulled to the location where you need it the painters can do their job. After to the painting is done put on the faceplate the Jack or any equipment you're using. This is the best way, the fastest way and the neatest way to Cable a drywall.
How much should I church for a demark room install? So an rg6 from outside to inner room then a demark with 66 block
There are to many variables to give you an answer on this format. I am starting a membership portal. I will include things like this for people who want more detail and specific information. Hope you join. Thanks for watching! Please subscribe!
Do you still sell the cable pulley’s?
I am sorry we don't