Christianity is most profound and this is why humility is fundamental to its understanding. Instead of saying I don't understand therefore it must be rubbish, say I have much to understand, may Jesus guide and help me understand.
n0 0ne says "I don't understand therefore it must be rubbish," {except in fIimsy ciaims by christians} pe0pIe say y0u have never dem0nstrated he exists in the first pIace, aIs0, they say "there are s0 many c0ntradicti0ns, pIain stupidity, and imm0raIity perpetrated by the g0d 0f the bibIe that he faIIs way sh0rt 0f his 0wn aIIeged primitive standard he c0mmits gen0cide, murders babies, aII0ws sIavery and creates a pIace 0f eternaI t0rture f0r th0se wh0 w0nt accept him" these are n0t the acti0ns 0f a "I0ving g0d" they are the acti0ns 0f a br0nze aged barbarian very simiIar t0 the barbarians wh0 invented him he then fake sacrifices himseIf t0 himseIf t0 shed bI00d because he cant f0rgive with0ut bI00dshed it d0esnt take that much understanding t0 see it is viIe n0nsense theres very IittIe pr0fundity except pr0f0und stupidity
YESSS!! I have been saying a prayer right before I read my bible to the effect of: "lend me your discernment so the words might pierce my heart, lend me your wisdom so that I might understand more fully, you are the source of all things and all things come from you"
The Bible does explicitly tell us in scripture that Jesus is fully God and Fully man in one simple verse-->John 1:14 KJV - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Right! We also have Philippians 2: 5-8 (NKJV) - "5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross."
Was literally thinking of commenting the same thing. Separately, not judging Catholic brothers. Lots of old texts are informative, just not authoritative over Scripture. Blessings to all 😊
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy 𝙜𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙩 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙢𝙮𝙨𝙩𝙚𝙧𝙮 𝙤𝙛 𝙜𝙤𝙙𝙡𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙨𝙨: 𝙂𝙤𝙙 𝙬𝙖𝙨 𝙢𝙖𝙣𝙞𝙛𝙚𝙨𝙩 𝙞𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙛𝙡𝙚𝙨𝙝, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1 John 4:2-3 [2] By this you know the Spirit of God: 𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙮 𝙨𝙥𝙞𝙧𝙞𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙘𝙤𝙣𝙛𝙚𝙨𝙨𝙚𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙅𝙚𝙨𝙪𝙨 𝘾𝙝𝙧𝙞𝙨𝙩 𝙝𝙖𝙨 𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙚 𝙞𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙛𝙡𝙚𝙨𝙝 𝙞𝙨 𝙛𝙧𝙤𝙢 𝙂𝙤𝙙, [3] 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙮 𝙨𝙥𝙞𝙧𝙞𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙙𝙤𝙚𝙨 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙘𝙤𝙣𝙛𝙚𝙨𝙨 𝙅𝙚𝙨𝙪𝙨 𝙞𝙨 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙛𝙧𝙤𝙢 𝙂𝙤𝙙. 𝙏𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙥𝙞𝙧𝙞𝙩 𝙤𝙛 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙖𝙣𝙩𝙞𝙘𝙝𝙧𝙞𝙨𝙩, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.
He was awesome calling on the authority of the Oecumenical council at Chalcedon. Convenient though considering this Council also demoted Romes synodal authority by declaring Constantinople the “New Rome” and granted it the same limited synodal authority as Rome nearly 500 years before Pope Leo III claim of primacy and not because of succession of Peter or any other Apostle but rather for the same pragmatic reason that Rome was declared first among equals to begin with, the mere stature and position of that City at that point in History.
The matchless grace of God enables our hearts to believe what our tiny human brains cannot comprehend. Our words trying to explain holy mysteries are insufficient
We are required to love God with all our minds as well as all our bodies, souls and spirits (Mk.12:30). Whilst everything that God reveals to us is true, He doesn’t reveal everything to us because it would overload us (obviously). However, God expects us to study and understand as much as we are able (some will understand more than others) 2Tim.2:15 and then to trust Him for all that is beyond our understanding. He takes a dim view of people deliberately remaining culpably ignorant (‘ignorance is bliss’) and then trying to justify ourselves by claiming ‘we don’t have to understand, we just have to believe’?! (In which case, ‘ignorance is sin’, a violation of the first and greatest commandment). Simonline🏴🤔🙏😀👍🇮🇱
Full disclosure, I am a retired Free Methodist minister: 1) In our Wesleyan tradition, we only hold to "sola scriptura" in matters absolutely essential to salvation. In other areas and issues, we place Scripture first, but also consider both tradition and reason. In reality, I think this is true of most evangelical groups, even if they don't admit it. When I was a pastor, I warned my people that if someone said they had found something in Scripture that no one had seen in 2k years of Christianity, they should run, not walk, in the other direction! 2) My degree is from a Baptist school, so I have exposure to a wide range of Protestant/Evangelical theology. I can say that this doctrine is UNIVERSALLY held by all. Among evangelicals, any other view is considered heretical. 3) Why is this the case? I would argue that it is primarily because the Scriptures are abundantly clear in this issue. As with the Trinity, the problem is that people insist upon being able to completely understand the nature of God, which is not possible for us. However, when we take Jesus and the Bible at face value we reach that same conclusion that Christians reached in 451 AD. 4) The fact that Scripture can be misinterpreted does not mean that it is not clear in its' teachings. People can and will distort ANY teaching - including that of the Catholic Church! (Trust me, I know as I have frequently corrected me evangelical brethren who have done just that.) 5) As far as if everyone holding an incorrect view of God and Christ is lost - well, that is not in our hands. It's our job to teach the truth. If you want to talk about issues where the Scriptures are not as clear and people actually do misunderstand, try election and predestination..... In any case, good video.
That's not true. God's working right now in our days, and prophecies are being fulfilled, that people wouldn't have understood back then. Plus God is leading me to reveal heavenly treasure from scripture. Predestination and Choice both work in tandem. We have choice, but God foreknows them. I actually learned that from a Methodist Seminary Student. You're old school Methodist, I wish we had ten thousand just like you. God bless! And greetings from the Saints!
Solid, lucid points. However, the heresies that were clarified by the Church - those people were Biblical readers too - and they firmly and earnestly believed their interpretation to be correct and Biblical. They weren’t half-ass dolts trolling other Christians. So this idea the Scripture alone is “clear” in its theology is Monday morning quarterbacking to the nth degree. One Church with Christ’s inerrant authority is paramount.
@@thomassalvi I certainly understand the Catholic position. My primary interest is the defense of the Christian faith - Catholic and Protestant. That said, a few thoughts in reaction (rather than an attempt at refutation): 1) The essentials of the Christian faith - that both Catholics and Protestants affirm - are so clearly stated that anyone carefully reading the Scriptures and applying the basic rules of interpretation can discern them. If this were not the case, cults would not need to appeal to other authorities in order to deviate from them (no, I am not referring to the Catholic Church as a cult, as it affirms the essentials of the faith I am speaking of). 2) Many of the issues that are less clear do not affect actual Christian practice. 3) There are significant disagreements within the Catholic Church - many of which are theological. It is not a monolithic organization. (In fact, on some issues, such as sexual ethics, evangelicals and conservative Catholics are closer than either is to theological liberals in their own camps.) 4) Proper training in hermeneutics (the science of textual interpretation) is important for all clergy (Catholic and Protestant).
"His name will be Emmanuel meaning God with us." "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. The Word became flesh and dwelled amongst us. If anyone thinks they can get even close to comprehending the mystery of God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit then they are fully delusional.
Great video, but I'm not seeing what this has to do with debunking Sola Scriptura... do Catholics think that Sola Scriptura means if you can't find "hypostatic union" in the Bible, then only the Church can show that to you? Protestants want to cite their Bible verses, for each and every single religious claim. Absolutely any belief must come from some verse, from *only* (Sola) the Bible (Scriptura). Sure, you can hear spiritual truth from your professor, who heard it growing up in the church, which has been passed down for centuries, or even thousands of years. But if it isn't sourced from somewhere in the Bible, then it's manmade.
I don't think that's the exact point of it. I think the problem stems from Sola Scriptura in itself. Scripture alone. Scripture isn't clear on all beliefs. The trinity, who should be baptized, canon of scripture, among other things. What they are trying to show you is that Scripture alone does not reveal everything. For instance scripture says Jesus is both God and Man but does not go into the hypostatic union of Jesus meaning he is fully God and Fully man. There were heresies that said he was only a good man and not trully God (Jehovah witnesses and similar to those who believe in reliving the last supper but saying it's not the presence of Jesus in any way) and heresies that said he was only God and took on the appearance of Man (Closely resembling Lutheran belief in consubstantiation). While the Hypostatic union would say that Jesus is God the Son but also a man who died for our sins closely resembling (transubstantiation of the eucharist). The Trinity in your line of thinking would be said that it's not clearly sourced in the bible so it must not be correct. It points to it but it was understood outside of the bible. The Canon of scripture points to some books but it does not clearly say what books are in the bible but it doesn't clearly state the canon. Do we do away with our bibles then? I would say no. I think you would say no as well. But there was an authority that taught these truths. So my question to you would be. If there isn't a clear and concise point in the Bible is it true or not? For instance the bible does not speak on the best gardening methods but we can still have that truth outside of the Bible. (If you know this please let me know because my plants keep dying). Love you brother. Please when you read this know that I am not attacking you but just trying to clarify and want to be respectful toward you on this topic.
You are not getting the point. All four positions, including the three heresies, were based on scriptures. They were all interpretations of scriptural texts. Each position tried to argue for itself using scripture. It was the divine authority of the Catholic Church that ultimately declared one interpretation to be right and the others to be wrong. If they had only relied on the authority of scripture (sola scriptura), a resolution wouldn't have been possible because everyone had reasons to believe that scripture backed up their position.
I would love to discuss this face to face with both Roman Catholic and Protestant believers. I am a life long Evangelical believer and I’m not sure Sola Scriptura is a sound doctrine but I do believe that the Bible IS the Word of God rather than contains the Word of God. I also believe that, in the absence of the Messiah/Christ, the Scriptures are the ultimate and final authority in all matters of faith and doctrine but they are not the only authority in all matters of faith and doctrine. I believe much of what we hold as doctrine has to be inferred/deduced from what is explicitly stated in the Scriptures rather than the doctrine itself being explicitly stated within Scripture (Divine attributes, Tri-Personality of the One God, the Hypostatic Union etc.). Adopting a simplistic attitude toward Scripture, faith and doctrine will serve only to impoverish and shipwreck our faith. I believe God is Reality in the absolute sense and, as such, is Himself, truth. I believe there is but One Truth (God Himself) and in order for anything to be true, it must be internally consistent and non-self-contradictory. I believe, because there is only One Truth, then anything that does not contradict Scripture as the revealed Word of God (2Tim.3:16-7; Heb.4:12-13) can be tentatively accepted as true and integrated into our world view accordingly. I also believe that the Church, as the Body of Christ, must have some role to play in determining the truth in all matters of faith and doctrine and cannot be completely disregarded in favour of ‘every man his own pope’ (1Tim.3:15). I don’t believe Protestants or Roman Catholics have got it all right and I think there is more scope for dialogue. I believe we will not get it right until we function together in spirit, truth and unity and stop fundamentally repudiating the gospel of reconciliation by our denominational separateness. Simonline🏴🤔🙏😀👍🇮🇱
Agreed. I think there is a clear definition for sola scripture and solo scriptura. One says it must be found in the bible or at least point to it with lots of evidence. Solo scriptura is only the bible. If it is not in scripture explicitly we can not believe it. Every denomination has some sort of man made tradition even if they don't know it. Baptists have the tradition that only people old enough to have faith must be baptized. This isn't found in the bible except for hints toward it such as the people who we saw get baptized. In the case of households we don't see them say children. Lutherans believe in Consubstantiation which wasn't heard of till Martin Luther. It may have been posed but was not an accepted belief. Some believe in the sinners prayer which is not in the bible. There are man made traditions. However I look at the Church of Christ and they are the only ones who get heckled for it. Although their reasoning is found in their Authority rather than scritpure alone. It is pulled from Scripture and found to be scriptural with authority of the tradtion.
Though I don’t agree with everything that was said, I thought this was an excellent video with much food for thought and a good explanation as to why it is crucial to believe all the key doctrines of Judeo-Christianity as they are all inter-linked and stand or fall together. Keep up the good work guys! Simonline 🏴🤔🙏😀👍🇮🇱
So how did the Catholic Church come to the conclusion of the hypo static union? If they went to the scriptures and the scriptures alone they would have come to the right conclusion. How does that debunk sola scriptura? What other source of information did they have that led them to Jesus being both human and divine?
You are not getting the point. All four positions, including the three heresies, were based on scriptures. They were all interpretations of scriptural texts. Each position tried to argue for itself using scripture. It was the divine authority of the Catholic Church that ultimately declared one interpretation to be right and the others to be wrong. If they had only relied on the authority of scripture (sola scriptura), a resolution wouldn't have been possible because everyone had reasons to believe that scripture backed up their position.
@@charlesudoh6034 you’re not getting the point. Scripture alone is authoritative. It has nothing to do with your interpretation. It is the Holy Spirit which guides in all truth. John 16:13 1 John 2:27
@@hirehammer925 How then are there various scriptural interpretations among “sola scriptura” protestant churches? These are churches that hold to scripture as the only infallible authority yet have different doctrines. You said the Holy Spirit is the one that leads us into all truths and as a Catholic, I completely agree. The question is how does the Holy Spirit do this? Does He individually lead us or does He lead us collectively through the church Jesus established, the same church that is called the pillar and foundation of truth?
@@charlesudoh6034 In other words the scriptures are God breathed, inspired. Interpretation is not , without being in agreement with scripture. Holy Spirit guided.
@@hirehammer925 It seems that you haven't addressed the questions I asked earlier. How do you explain the fact that different Protestant churches, all of which profess that scripture is God-breathed and the only infallible authority, have ended up with different and contradictory doctrines, all derived from scripture?
@@tony1685the holy Catholic Church is Jesus Christ himself on earth so you say a typical silly protestant thing. Now leave your man made protestant CULT or lose your immortal soul.
5:50 The Church came to these conclusions after much debate using the Scriptures as the standard. Why does it matter what we believe on these six issues? It only matters if what we believe is based on what the Scriptures teach. The Church can bear testimony to what we have always believed but if it invents new dogma then that means that we don't have "The Faith once for all delivered". Who knows what we might need to make up at some future council. It doesn't matter what we believe about these things if it is just a matter of what we decide, we could decide differently. What matters is what God DID declare in his holy word.
something doesn't need to be explicit to be clear - scripture is clear, on every matter, even the hypostatic union. But only those with the eyes of faith can believe it
I am a former Roman Catholic and i appreciate videos like these in a way because of the essential doctrines we share such as this one, specially the way Bishop Barron described it. But i did not see how what the protestant girl who define the true natures of God accurately, debunked the doctrine of Sola Scriptura since in the scriptures alone we can find both natures of Christ. Anyway be blessed.
If you have to lie and say that the Bible doesn't say that Jesus is 100% human and 100% God, then you are more concerned about winning a silly argument, than you are with telling the truth.
Then what verse do Literally say that "HE is 100% Divine and 100% Man in his nature". The speaker only highlights the magesterial authority of the Church to teach the correct interpretation of the bible verses. Also, he doesn't say that the principle of hypostatic union is no where to be found in the bible. But rather he did an excellent job in putting the facts right, that these kind of doctrinal specifics and terminologies had not been explicitly discussed in the scriptures. Yet we must be thankful that the church expounded these essential doctrines through out the history, to avoid new protestant notions and teaching this day, that Jesus was not fully divine and fully man. Again, he is not against the bible, but this was presented in order to give an awareness that the bible must not be interpretted in one's own self interpretation. That most people this day made themselves popes of their own belief as they give their lwn interpretation to each verses apart from Christ's body, which is the mageistetial teaching of the Catholic Church. Have a blessed day 😊
I had a misunderstanding about this subject with a Catholic because I misunderstood what Sola Scriptura means. It was my understanding that this means that every doctrine needs to be backed up with scripture in context and as a whole not that scripture alone can speak to a Christian. That would invalidate any message from any Priest, Pastor, or biblical teacher. I see a lot of hostility between Christians, man if we can't have a civil conversation about these things then how can we show the unsaved the love of Christ. This is sectarianism at its finest.
3:39 Monophysitism seems to be referring to Eutychianism which held that the two natures blended in to a "Third Substance". Chronologically that was right after Nestorius.
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Jesus is the centre of human history and the answer to all our existential issues. This is precisely because He restored human nature to its original pristine sublimity ,grace and divinity by uniting in him the divine and the human in faultless perfection. Perfectly human perfectly divine,that's the central feature of the Incarnation. Nothing can ,no one can substitute Him in this. Every other man made programs systems of thought or avatars of one kind of the other fail to achieve what they propose (d) to achieve. JESUS IS LORD . HALLELUJAH.
Love your videos and how you gather such great and informative content for commentary. Keep up the good work brother. Just some honest feedback, I feel like some of your titles and images are a bit click baitish, for example this content isn't about sola scriptura as much as it is about how the church clarified what the bible already teaches about Jesus's divinity and humanness. Also the girl in your cover photo is a different girl than in your video.
🤦🤦🤦Where was the debunking? Sola Scriptura doesn't mean that people can't have mistaken ideas. If the aim was to engage in dialogue with Protestants, then this is a fail.
Yes it does. 1 Corinthians 15 talks about Jesus being both God and Man. 1 Corinthians 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven. John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 1:1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Mathew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
I am a protestand, but I appreciate how the catholic church figured out and put in formula the trinity. that is, what church should do. I see no contradiction to sola scriptura though. the working out of scripure as the catholic church did well in this case does not mean that it condradicts scripture. I only means that it interpretes and explains scripture. But always there has to be the ability of every believer to go back to scripture and debunk a possible wrong interpretation. Maybe it should rather be called "scripture first" than "only scripture". Protestants also interprete the bible, so it never can be "only" scripture. on the other hand one has to say stop whenever any church comes up with weird doctrins that cannot be found in scripture or seem constructed out of few verses that can as well be understood differently. (The physical ascencion of Mary into heaven? Really??).I admit that is less comfortable than an apostolic authority of the church. You have to dive into it on your own and see wether it makes all sense to you. And this can lead to different denominations and a lot of quarrel. But the doctrin of the trinity is a good example: If well made, it gets accepted by the vast majority of christians.
I agree with this. You brought up some good points. There are saints who were monks who stood up against the Churches teaching. Humbly because the Church was given authority in regard to interpretation of scripture. When there is discension in the Church of Christ we turn toward the Church for Guidance. As for Mary's bodily assumption. I don't have my literature near me or even the Bible. If you reply to this I will get to it and respond to you. Most of these come from Revelation though. We can go over many things if you'd like about Mary. 1. Mary's sinlessness 2. Mary mother of God 3. Mary queen of heaven and earth 4. Mary's bodily assumption
@@thovenach Thank you for explaining. i respect your view of Mary. But I did NOT have personal revelation about her. And if I would just believe everyone who claims his private revelation, I would have to believe in countless contradictions. Sadly this "the holy ghost told me" or "Jesus said to me" thing is very widespread and i do not get rid of the feeling that this is mostly connected with personal ego, lazyness to actually read scripture and sometimes even with psychological issues. Not saying these things do not exist. But its impossible to distinguish the good from the bad. Maybe this is even more widespread within protestantism. I dont know. As for Mary and the 4 claims about her: I cannot find that in scripture. It seems interpretative. F.e. she surely gave birth to Jesus and Jesus is god. But does delivering his earthly vessel mean, she is the mother of god? As if she was there before god was. Thats strange. There is no nameeable sin reported about her. But she is not described differently to any other protagonist in scripture. from her conflicts with Jesus I would think, she was a very special woman. But sinless? And the bodily assumption is not even remotely mentioned as far as i remember. Thats the issue I have with catholic theology: You cannot really disprove the claims, but they seem very far fetched and sometimes may blurr the simple gospel. What do you think?
We live by Faith Alone ,in Christ Alone.You can’t live by Faith and obedience,because obedience is impossible ( trying to follow the Law perfectly) . The Roman Catholic says we live by Faith +works,if not this leads to antinomianism.There is another option- we live by Faith Alone,in Christ Alone.One destroys Grace,the other lives by Grace.
Mark 4:34 tell us that there is more to the story than just scripture, he tells us that Jesus taught in parable to the people, but described everything in detail to his Apostles. That knowledge will only be passed down by the clergy through tradition and mystagogy.
Sola scriptura does not mean that scripture is our only authority, it means scripture is the only infallible authority. The church does have authority as well, it just has to be submitted to the authority of scripture. This understanding of sola scripture has been lost to more radical protestantism, but it is retained in high church protestantism, like confessional lutheranism. Many catholics only attack the more radical position but never deal with, or even understand, the more balanced doctrine. If you read the arguments of the early church fathers against christological heresies, they make all their arguments by appealing to scripture. Why is that?
📜 Jeremiah 7:2 Stand at the gate of the house of the LORD and proclaim this message there: Hear the word of the LORD, all you of Judah who enter these gates to worship the LORD! 3 Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: Reform your ways and your deeds so that I may dwell with you in this place. 4 Do not put your trust in these deceptive words: “The temple of the LORD! The temple of the LORD! The temple of the LORD!” ...16 You, now, must not intercede for this people! Do not raise a cry or prayer in their behalf!k Do not press me, for I will not listen to you! 17 Do you not see what they are doing in the cities of Judah, in the streets of Jerusalem? 18 The children gather wood, their fathers light the fire, and the women knead dough to make cakes for the Queen of Heaven,* while libations are poured out to other gods-all to offend me! 19 Are they really offending me-oracle of the LORD-or rather themselves, to their own disgrace? 📜 1Corinthians 10:11 Now these things happened to them as an example, and they have been written down as a warning to us, upon whom the end of the ages has come.* 12 Therefore, whoever thinks he is standing secure should take care not to fall.* 13 No trial has come to you but what is human. God is faithful and will not let you be tried beyond your strength; but with the trial he will also provide a way out, so that you may be able to bear it. 14 Therefore, my beloved, avoid idolatry.
The church, both Catholic and Protestant, has it right--it's a mystery. We can't understand it and in my view need not even accept it so long as we get about executing the tasks God gives us during our time. I expect many readers will disagree and that's correct too. Probably we're both wrong.
Only about 70 years after the church figured out the canon of scripture, which took much longer… History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, - the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, - the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century and ONLY the 27 books, - not only did they not agree but their individual lists of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time, growing in numbers of hundreds of “inspired” NT writings. Therefore, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved it by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself? Peace!!!
@@srich7503 The Church testified to what God inspired, the books were inspired the minute the ink hit the page. Paul didn't need to send his letter to the Galatians to a council in Jerusalem before he sent it to Galatia. The Church exists today but it never was an official organization like the Vatican of today. If I were to go with an organization I would say that the Bishop of Rome went into schism in 1054.
@@glstka5710 thats nice but it does not answer the question above, specifically - 1) that the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, and 2) that not only did they not agree on the 27 books but that their individual would-be canons were GROWING during this era. Also, if you are going to go with the Orthodox, the Catholic church says - Cool! They are just as much a part of the true church as we are. Sadly they do not share our sentiments. And then again there is the problem with, which Orthodox?, since they are not all in communion with each other? 🤷🏽♂️
Here is how we come to the doctrines that Jesus was fully divine and fully human. Jesus was fully human because he was born from a human mother. Jesus had two legs, two arms, two eyes, two ears, he spoke Aramaic, he was a Jew and was a brother, son, and member of his community the Jews and from the lineage of David. We get the idea that Jesus was divine from the fact that he was conceived by the Holy Spirit. We get the idea of his divinity by his resurrection and by the words of Christ himself. All of this is substantiated in the scriptures. Any questions?
Yes. What do you think a Jew is? Jesus was an Israelite of the tribe of Judah. His faith was that of Moses, the law and the prophets. He did not follow Judaism which began in Babylon as a corruption of the faith. He was born in Judea and lived latterly in Galilee.
h0w d0 y0u dem0nstrate he was c0nceived by the h0Iy spirit when y0u have never dem0nstrated that g0d 0r the "h0Iy spirit" even exist ? if he r0se fr0m the dead what did he sacrifice ? n0t his Iife, cIearIy he returned unharmed iIIustrating he did n0t give up his Iife just his time his return degrades reaI sacrifice his kn0wing he w0uId return makes his "sacrifice " a meaningIess trick he`s imm0rtaI bef0re the crucificti0n, he`s imm0rtaI after the crucificti0n what`s he I0st ? n0thing I d0nt beIieve in the resurrecti0n because it is sensIess t0 cIaim imm0rtaI g0d status then cIaim he died then teII us he`s aIive again it is an inc0herent taIe t0Id by 2000 yr 0Id haIf wits
One of the heresies claims that although Jesus is fully God, he only appeared to be human. This interpretation acknowledges that Jesus was born of a woman and appeared and behaved like a human, but denies that he had a human nature. Proponents of this view argue that God has the ability to appear and behave as a human without possessing a human nature. The issue here is that based on your explanation and scripture, it's not possible to prove that Jesus wasn't just God appearing as human, but was both God (divine nature) and human (human nature). The Bible isn't clear on this. It was the authoritative declaration of the Catholic Church that affirmed that Jesus was fully God and fully human, not just appearing as a human.
@@charlesudoh6034 yes, men decided whether he was haIf man haIf biscuit, haIfman, haIf imaginati0n the w0Ie c0ncept fuIIy g0d pretend human is pathetic in the extreme the fact that gr0wn men sit and discuss whether their imaginary friend can be as p0werfuI as superman 0r a m0rtaI man is an indicati0n 0f h0w 0bscene the wh0Ie 0f christianity is "It was the "authoritative" {I0I} declaration of the Catholic Church that affirmed that Jesus was fully God and fully human, not just appearing as a human. yeah, c0s, 0f c0urse, they w0uId kn0w they are privvy t0 kn0wIedge n0 0ne eIse has Ima0
I wonder what Jesus will say to Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant Christians one day as we fellowship with Him together in heaven? I wonder if He'll say "I'm so glad you all spent so much time accusing each other of being wrong and focusing on debate and petty points over spreading the Gospel like I clearly told you to do. Excellent use of time my children!"
Please tell me where in the bible it speaks of redeemed man living in heaven?! The hope is in the physical resurrection. When the thief hung on the cross, he asked Jesus to remember him when he came into his kingdom. The kingdom is his millennial reign kingdom on earth. In my Father's house are many mansions. Heaven is not the Father's house. The Father's house is the coming kingdom. And Revelation tells us God himself will dwell on the new earth. Read the bible instead of listening to myths.
Brother, my one comment is to remind you of 2 Timothy 2:14: “Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen.” The Devil divided our families and is now pitting us against one another. It is of no value to attack each other as being “debunked.” I agree we should discuss all matters with grace and love and fearful reverence to our God, in search of true doctrine on all things, but we should do so first and foremost with respect toward unity. Just as it mattered not whether one followed Paul, another Barnabas, and a third Peter, so we should not care if we are Catholic, Protestant, or what not. As long as our foundation is on declaring Christ as our Lord, and living in reverence and submission to His will, we can be united. And apologies if it seems as I was judging, I am not. I see too much fighting on this thread where we need to love our fellow brothers and sisters and stand against all sin and evil.
My brother Stay warmed don't be lukewarm , Jesus bring sword not peace, Jesus teaching is of great value, anything used of it otherwise is need to be reminded...loving our fellow brothers and sisters is not letting them what they wanted,,,,loving them is to remind them that they are in the different direction....Nobody can tempt GOD and the only way to be near to GOD is Holy Bible....remember scripture is the easiest way to use by Satan in tempting Jesus our GOD. There are so many people now adays using the name Jesus,,,,,Interpreting Holy Bible in their own belief, thus there will come a time if this trend in interpreting by itself,,,,all streets in the city have their own churches proclaiming it as the true church....but true Jesus in the Holy Bible established only ONE Holy Church....and thats we should searched and proclaim....Peace be with you my brother...
@@winstonmaglangit6190 amen, brother. That’s why I specifically said we should be discussing to reach the truth, and to stand against all evil and sin. I completely agree that we need to be vigilant and to stand against heresy. I only implored because I saw Protestant brothers responding that this is “nonsense” and felt equal animosity from Catholic brothers. The devil lurks behind such division.
All this goes back to when the angel Gabriel told Mary she would be the mother of God and was taken by the holy spirit a shadow over took her and Jesus was conceive not by man or her soon to be husband Joseph but by the holy spirit so Jesus was DNA Mary and the spirit of God not of man so why are people disagree when it's oveious that Mary is the mother of God and Jesus who is God 😂 I don't see how they can argue what is very oveious!!!
3:51 Chronologically Arianism was much earlier so it wasn't a third in relation to the others. It didn't try to split the difference because there was no difference there when Arius made his mess.
No, it is not. One of these heresies claims that Jesus, who is fully God, merely took on the appearance of a human. This position agrees that Jesus was born of a woman and looked and behaved like a human, but that doesn't mean he had a human nature. They would rightly argue that God has the power to take on the appearance and mannerisms of a human without having a human nature. The problem is that scripture alone can't prove that Jesus wasn't just God in the appearance of a human, but that he was God (divine nature) and human (human nature). The Bible isn't just clear on that. It took the divine authority of the Catholic Church to decree that Jesus was fully God and fully human, not just the mere appearance of a human.
@@charlesudoh6034 Jesus told Thomas to touch his hands and side. Physical body. He gave His human spirit when He died on the cross. Fully human clearly. The same goes for His fully Divine nature. The Word became flesh and nothing was created without Him. Fully God. It's all in the Bible.
@@redfritz3356 His physical body and his death do not prove human nature. In the Old Testament, angels visited Abraham and they came in the form of humans, they even ate and drank with him. That then doesn't mean they were fully human. Like I said, the heretics were also familiar with the biblical texts and they weren't convinced it demonstrated that Jesus had a human nature. The biblical texts allow for both interpretations even though there is only one true interpretation. This is why sola scriptura is unsound. You couldn't arrive at certainty as to the truth of Jesus' humanity using scripture alone. The same goes for other doctrines central to Christianity. You need an authority outside scripture (the church) to infallibly interpret scripture.
@@redfritz3356 Sure, we both agree the Holy Spirit is the one who interprets scripture. He is the author after all. The question now is how does the Holy Spirit do this interpretation? For Catholics, we say that the Spirit does this by guiding the Church. The Church that Christ established on Peter and the Apostles. _Matthew 16:18-19, Jesus says to Peter, "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock, I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."_ _John 14:26, "But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have said to you."_ _John 16:13, "But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on His own; he will speak only what He hears, and He will tell you what is yet to come."_ Jesus built His Church on Peter and the Apostles and promised that the Holy Spirit would guide them into all truth and remind them of everything He taught. The Church's teachings are not merely human opinions but guided by the Holy Spirit. However, for Protestants, this guidance of the Holy Spirit is individualistic. Sola Scriptura implies that the Holy Spirit guides whoever reads the scriptures. The problem with that is, what do you do when two people read the same scripture and come up with different and contradictory doctrines, while both claiming to be inspired and guided by the Holy Spirit. How do you determine who (if any) was inspired by the Holy Spirit?
1:11 Others might interpret those same verses differently - People can always interpret things wrong but that doesn't mean that there is no right interpretation. If you need Church councils then you are saying God didn't know how to speak clearly in the first place. Also, people can interpret what the councils say differently and if you say more to clarify the councils people will be able to interpret your clarification differently. There's no end to it. People will always interpret things differently but that doesn't prove that what is misinterpreted is insufficient.
Yes there will always be different interpretations but there will always be one that is the majority and most inline with what the church has already taught
The Protestant girl did not debunk the doctrine of "Sola Scriptura," since there are Scriptures below my post pointing out the fact that the LORD God Jesus Christ is fully human and fully God. The Metropolitan Bishops and the others that votes in the early Church Councils used the Bible to confirm their doctrines. A Protestant will Not reject Catholic teaching unless it contradicts the Word of God, this idea does not. For example: Metropolitan Bishop of Alexandria, (spiritual father of Athanasius, who later became the Metropolitan Bishop of Alexanrdria, defender to the Trinity), Alexander, excommunicated the heretic Arius, and Bishop Alexander was the moderator of the Council of Nice, where the Nicene Creed was voted on in 325 AD. No true Christian will reject the words, "...God of God, light of light, true God from true God, Begotten, not made, being of one Substance of the Father by Whom all things were made." I remembered this part of the Athanasian Creed listening to this video clip: "Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood. Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood into God." If you want Scriptures on Christology subject matters go read Dominus Iesus, written in the year 2000 by Cardinal Ratzinger, (aka as Pope Benedict XVI, and signed by Pope John Paul II...and I am a Protestant.
The imputation of the active obedience of Christ ,by Faith Alone ,in Christ Alone is the way Christians lead their lives .The false Gospel of the Roman Catholic Church teaches the opposite. We live by Faith Alone,not Faith +works ( which is another form of bondage) .Turn to Christ,you can’t work your way to Heaven.
Peace and Grace Arianism which is now Jehovah’s Witness doctrine, is stating that the son is created and not eternal and ever existing. His divine nature is different and lower than the divine nature of God the Father. Arianism is before the Christological controversy of Nestoriansim & Monophysitism and before the Council of Ephesus in 431 AD and the Council of Chalcedon in 451 AD. Arianism is not on the spectrum of Christological Controversies, it is the worst heresy!
It’s like saying “this circle is full circle and fully triangle.” Actually we know both circles and triangles exist. So it’s more like saying “ King Arthur was fully human and fully leprechaun. “ we have stories about King Arthur and Jesus. And what a person can believe about either of the two says nothing about reality. I find it hard to believe a trinity when you have God informing Jesus that that he is his son and he is pleased with him in Mark. Oh and btw that Jesus felt like he needed a baptism for the forgiveness of sins. So he might be sinful.
Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ, I am an Apostolic Christian, that is why my Faith is the Faith of the original Apostolic Community, that is, Orthodox, and my Sending to the whole World is the Sending of the Apostles, that is, Catholic! Having said that, it is clear for me that the "definitions" of certain things, that is, the "Dogmas" are not changing the Reality and the Divine Revelation that made some of it known to us - whatever the words by which we try to express this "fragment"! But if you try to "explain" to Jesus (not to me, who am I?) and do not truly repent of now, that you split His Body and killed your neighbors in 'self-defence', or for "defending the Dogmas, the Honor of Jesus, the Church, the Christian Values, your family, your friends, your land, whatever" - then I tell you: Jesus will send you away from Him, together with those whom He mentioned in the Gospel, because you chose all these things instead of His Commandments, that is, you loved them more than Him! Veritatis Missio
Protestants owe everything they know about Jesus and the Holy Trinity to the Catholic Church just like they owe the Canonical New Testament to the Catholic Church that defined it and rejected apocryphal sources. Yet, they claim thd Catholic Church doesn't understand the Scriptures and has no authority in interpretation matter. They also act as if the nature of Jesus was obvious in the New Testament and they were smarter than the Apostles who had hard time understanding who he was.
I respect a lot of things the catholic church but I can't agree that I need someone else to tell me God's plan for my life. Why should God's will be subject to the bias of man?
lol Catholicism is the only true Christianity. It has been since Jesus Christ established it in 33AD. You follow a modern man made watered down heretic version of it.
Let me guess. You accepted Jesus as your personal saviour? You realise that isn’t in the Bible? Do you know where it came from? Charles Fuller (1887-1968). Fuller used the phrase thousands of times in his incredibly popular Old Fashioned Revival Hour radio program that aired from 1937 to 1968. Boom!
To keep it simple Catholicism is a works based salvation. Reformed theology is a grace based salvation. The book of Galatians as well as many other scriptures points to grace based salvation. In the CC you need to jump through many steps to continual earn grace. In reformed theology we have been born into the faith with a personal testamony. We receive a believers baptism. We are sanctified continually as we repent and let the Holy Spirit do His work in our lives. We have peace because Christ did it all at Calvary.
The Catholic church published its Catechism for the very reason of this straw man attacks on her. You dont have to read it but more and more people are and understanding its teaching every day and seeing the nakedness of your straw man. 👍🏻 Also, your Reformed theology profession, while cute and im sure what you truly believe, does not encompass the whole of Protestantism, what this video was pointing to. The sad fact is, there is no one position that does, Sorry!🤷🏽♂
Why use the a woman to try and support what you say. As Paul says “I suffer a woman not to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather she should remain quiet.” 1 Tim 2:12 Thanks for proving the point. How about using someone like Dr. William Lane Craig and then maybe you can say something. This is nothing but cheap point scoring at the level of a school child.
All the evidence of Jesus being both wholly a man and the God is in the Bible. Colossians 2:9,10 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity dwells in bodily form. And you have been made complete in Christ, who is the head over every ruler and authority. If you are not able to fully defend your position by the Bible, it is either an error or the opinion of a man.
Tony, as an SDA you should research the story of Bruno Cornacchiola who plotted to assassinate the pope but the Virgin Mary appeared to him. You seem so full of hate. You must have a miserable life.
@@Knight-of-the-Immaculata and part of that love is keeping His Ten Commandments -- 1 John 5:3 yet catholicism teaches contrary His Commandments and mandates sin. care to discuss that fact, Sir?
Yes. The book of Maccabees shows prayer for the dead prior to Jesus. And yes Intercessory prayer is taught throughout the Bible. It's been thought for 2000 yrs. Protestant denominations don't follow Christian history and didn't exist for over 1500 yrs after Christ therefore they have no teaching authority or guidance.
If you in heaven how can you be dead 😂 You crazy Read the Bible of the transfiguration.... Jesus spoke to Moses and Elijah... They died 1000s of years before Jesus... If they were dead why is Jesus talking to them? Whats wrong with you? Who taught you such utter nonsense.... So if you go to heaven then you dead 😂 Heaven is the place of the living not the dead. IF you believe in sola Scriptura then go read of the transfiguration... Geez some people listen to and believe any rubbish....
@@Hospitaller1099 Jesus neaver prayed to God to raise Lazuras. " He cried in a loud voice, Lazuras come forth". His prayer was so that "they would believe that thou hast sent me"
@@garybeharrell3972 So they took away the stone. Then *Jesus looked up and said, “Father, I thank you that you have heard me. I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me.* ” When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!” The dead man came out, his hands and feet wrapped with strips of linen, and a cloth around his face. Jesus said to them, “Take off the grave clothes and let him go.” John 11:41-44
It was NOT Jesus Who incarnated as the Messiah/Christ but YHWH (Jn.1:1,14) which is why the Messiah/Christ (rather than Jesus) is called Emmanuel - God with us (Matt.1:22-23). In other words, ‘God’ is YHWH, not Jesus whilst ‘with us’ is Jesus not YHWH but the Messiah/Christ is God with us. Such subtle distinctiveness appears to be completely beyond some people’s comprehension (especially many Christians)? Simonline🏴🤔🙏😀👍🇮🇱
Prior to 599 AD, all Christiandom were "catholic" small c, ie all bishops in Christiandom were co-equal enter 599 AD, every bishop in the west prior to that was called pope. The assertion by the bishop of Rome at that time so called- Gregory I that he should have authority over the Roman Empire is the start of Roman Catholicism. There is a reason why the word Roman is affixed to Catholicism - it is because there are other catholic churches (meaning universal ie for all people) who do not accept the whole teaching of the Romanists. Christology of Jesus being both God and Man has already been ironed out before the Papacy of Rome's Gregory came along - the Council of Chalcedon - see the Nicene Creed which is 352 AD ie prior to 599 AD to which Classic Protestants - ie the Evangelicals (Lutherans), Anglican, Reformed subscribe ie pre 599 AD - so this video is false information, as if the RCC derived that doctrine by tradition - the Nicene Council went to the Scriptures to affirm Jesus is both God and Man - ie it is easy to see that he is human but the proof that he is also God takes some unpacking from the Scripture thus the Nicene Creed states God from God true God from true God. As sadly and as normal RCC engages always in tribal triumphalism by fiat.
This doesn't eliminate Sola Scriptura. How silly of you. Evangelicals recognize that there is a Trinity even though the word Trinity isn't in Scripture, but we believe that the Trinity is true because of what SCRIPTURE says.
Debunked? Ha ha ha. Sola Scriptura doesn't preclude making inferences based on Biblical data. You didn't even attempt to show how she "debunked" Sola Scriptura.
Wrong understanding. Just because the Word became flesh he is now human? No, he remains divine but man in flesh or physical being in image. He is not like us human. Had Jesus came to us like a buffalo in physical image, he is not a buffalo by its nature but divine being.
Referring to the passage in which Jesus says only the Father knows when the end of the age is, a Muslim triumphantly says that "Jesus is not God because He does not know". How do we confront this absurd proclamation? Please do a short video on it.
When Christ, an infinite, all powerful being came down in the form of a man, He humbled Himself. He limited Himself from eternal and omnipotent, to finite and vulnerable. He limited Himself and was sent to do ONLY what the Father willed Him to do; and showing us the time of His second coming was not within His revelation to us, so His Father did not show Him that while He was finite in flesh.
#1 the church didnt establish that Jesus Christ is God. God established that Jesus is fully God in the flesh. Jesus, who is fully God, stated He was God fully, not the church... The Holy Spirit was sent to fill us with God's devine nature, so once we except Christ as God and Saviour, we confess Christ is the Salvation from death do to our sins, we as Christians receive the gift of Salvation, eternal life and God is in each of us, we receive the Holy Spirit, which is clearly God in us, the light that shines from God through us... Over whatever amount of time, the Holt Spirit tranforms us into a new person, as we allow the Holy Spirit to grow in us, to direct our paths, to allow God to lead us through obedience to His commands, if we don't stray from the path God has before us through prayer and knowledge of the Word of God , who is Christ Jesus, we shall have eternal life. As Jesus states: No one comes to the Father except Through Jesus Christ... READ : 1 John, the whole five chapters...
You have the holy Catholic Church. You have 48,000 man made protestant CULT. It’s typical of protestant heretics to get those verses wrong when Paul says there’s only one mediator between God and man the man Jesus. This has nothing whatsoever to do with prayers of intercession it’s saying to the Jews you can no longer go to God the father directly as you did but now only through Jesus. I tell protestant’s to leave their man made protestant CULTS. ONLY Catholic’s are Christian because there’s ONLY ONE CHURCH
3:56 Arianism said that Jesus was god but that he was a created god not the Eternal God. Modern Jehovah's Witnesses make this same error. Basically you have two. Big God created Little god then the two created everything else.
The doctrine of the hypostatic union is NOT that ‘Jesus’ is both Divine Creator and human creature 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ but rather the Son [the Second Person of the One Tri-Personal Divine Creator, YHWH], incarnate as the Messiah/Christ, is both Divine Creator [YHWH] and human creature [Jesus of Nazareth] (Matt.1:21-23; Jn.1:1,14) Jesus is no more Divine than YHWH is human but, whilst Jesus of Nazareth IS the Messiah/Christ, there is (quite literally) infinitely more to the Messiah/Christ than just the human creature. No. The Messiah/Christ is ONE PERSON [the Son] simultaneously existing, by means of TWO distinct but NOT separate NATURES, in TWO DIFFERENT WAYS as both Divine Creator [YHWH] and human creature [Jesus of Nazareth]. The Messiah/Christ is neither ‘fully God’ nor ‘fully man’. Instead He is BOTH authentic God AND authentic Man but the way He exists as human creature is NOT the same as the way that He exists as Divine Creator. I am NOT a Nestorian heretic (the Messiah being a Divine Person and a human person (i.e. schizophrenic)?!) Simonline🏴🤔🙏😀👍🇮🇱
Sola Scriptura is unbiblical and Protestants still haven’t given me a verse in the bible that teaches this. When they bring up 2 Timothy 3:16 they see what isn’t there. They also add words to the verse as well in some of their bibles. It says all scriptures and not only. Is profitable which means useful. This letter was send to Timothy who was a bishop and his ministry and not some lay man. I always tell Protestants to look at Ephesians 4 11-14 which was also send to Ephesus but the church as a whole. Verse 14 is Protestantism in a nutshell. Again Jesus left a system on place and not some layman to interpret scriptures.
Hello, may I ask how sola scriptura is unbiblical? I am not familiar with the ins and outs of what the “doctrine” may be, but from a glance it seems to mean the Bible is the word of authority in a Christian’s life. I’m not sure how that is unbiblical.
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@@aintnoisepollution99 it’s unbiblical because it’s not our only source. It’s never been taught since the beginning. Again read Ephesians 4 11-14. God left teachers and not lay man to interpret scriptures . That’s Protestantism. Read your bible. The Bible says that the church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth.
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@@aintnoisepollution99 it’s unbiblical because Scriptures is not our only source. We have a thing called oral tradition or apostolic tradition. It goes hand in hand.
Your definition of Nestorianiam is misleading and unclear ( at 5mins 55 secs into the video). You just state Nestorianism taught that Jesus had two separate natures, one human and one divine - but you should have emphasised the real part of the heresy which wrongly maintained that Jesus was two separate persons, one human and one divine. Whereas the true and correct teaching is he was not two persons but only one person with two natures.
There is no need to depreciate the authority of the Bible . So why this a good argument for introducing, talking to dead people and preaching that Mary was always a virgin and that She is the Queen of heaven
For 1500 years after Jesus died and was resurrected there was only one church …..the Catholic church founded by Jesus Himself when He anointed the apostle Peter as the first pope " You are Peter and upon this rock I will build my church" Then 1500 years after that along comes Luther ( after Satan had whispered in his ear) and split the church apart ….just as Satan had instructed . Luther Calvin and others started the rot . ( Now remember this was 1500 years after Christ founded His church …..there was no protestant church at the time Jesus walked the earth ….it was the Catholic church Catholic means universal . From the Greek word KATOLIKOS. Martin Luther, an EX CATHOLIC wanted to reform the Catholic church but took it too far. He began the great division in the church in the 16th century .He believed he was inspired by God and that no one could criticize his ideas. He was a narcissist...he said " In a 1000 years no bishop has been bestowed with such gifts as God has bestowed upon me". He said he is certain that he has received his dogmas from heaven …..he said " I am the prophet of the Germans ". But the fact is he followed the teachings of Henry of Ockham. He started translating the bible from Greek without having any knowledge of Greek .He translated the " man is justified by faith " into " man is justified by faith alone " he added the word " alone " by himself .When someone criticized him for that he replied " Doctor Martin Luther translates it that way and that's how I want it."....over 1400 errors were found in his translation .He excluded certain books from the bible by his own authority …..he said the epistle of James is nothing more than straw because it does not present any evangelical character. Regarding the book of revelation he said that he does not find anything apostolic or prophetic in this book. He commissioned rude paintings of the pope of that time and got it published ( is that the conduct of a holy man ….a man inspired by God ?). When he blessed people he would say " May the Lord fill you with his blessing and hatred for the pope. ( Is that a blessing ? Or a curse?) On marriage he said that marriage is mandatory ….that woman was not created to be a wife but to beget children they only serve for marriage or prostitution. He said he hates divorce so much that he prefers bigamy. He allowed prince Phillip to have 2 wives and justified it based on the bible and when people found out…. he lied and said that one was his concubine and not his wife. He loved the virgin Mary and said she was the tender mother of God ….in his dining room He had the crucifix and and image of Mary holding the infant Jesus . He accepted baptism and the real presence of Jesus in the Holy Eucharist. He later said that Lutheranism was no better than catholicism Protestantism is from Satan.
Yes For 1500 years after Jesus died and was resurrected there was only one church …..the Catholic church founded by Jesus Himself when He anointed the apostle Peter as the first pope " You are Peter and upon this rock I will build my church" Then 1500 years after that along comes Luther ( after Satan had whispered in his ear) and split the church apart ….just as Satan had instructed . Luther Calvin and others started the rot . ( Now remember this was 1500 years after Christ founded His church …..there was no protestant church at the time Jesus walked the earth ….it was the Catholic church Catholic means universal . From the Greek word KATOLIKOS. Martin Luther, an EX CATHOLIC wanted to reform the Catholic church but took it too far. He began the great division in the church in the 16th century .He believed he was inspired by God and that no one could criticize his ideas. He was a narcissist...he said " In a 1000 years no bishop has been bestowed with such gifts as God has bestowed upon me". He said he is certain that he has received his dogmas from heaven …..he said " I am the prophet of the Germans ". But the fact is he followed the teachings of Henry of Ockham. He started translating the bible from Greek without having any knowledge of Greek .He translated the " man is justified by faith " into " man is justified by faith alone " he added the word " alone " by himself .When someone criticized him for that he replied " Doctor Martin Luther translates it that way and that's how I want it."....over 1400 errors were found in his translation .He excluded certain books from the bible by his own authority …..he said the epistle of James is nothing more than straw because it does not present any evangelical character. Regarding the book of revelation he said that he does not find anything apostolic or prophetic in this book. He commissioned rude paintings of the pope of that time and got it published ( is that the conduct of a holy man ….a man inspired by God ?). When he blessed people he would say " May the Lord fill you with his blessing and hatred for the pope. ( Is that a blessing ? Or a curse?) On marriage he said that marriage is mandatory ….that woman was not created to be a wife but to beget children they only serve for marriage or prostitution. He said he hates divorce so much that he prefers bigamy. He allowed prince Phillip to have 2 wives and justified it based on the bible and when people found out…. he lied and said that one was his concubine and not his wife. He loved the virgin Mary and said she was the tender mother of God ….in his dining room He had the crucifix and and image of Mary holding the infant Jesus . He accepted baptism and the real presence of Jesus in the Holy Eucharist. He later said that Lutheranism was no better than catholicism
Christianity is most profound and this is why humility is fundamental to its understanding.
Instead of saying I don't understand therefore it must be rubbish, say I have much to understand, may Jesus guide and help me understand.
n0 0ne says
"I don't understand therefore it must be rubbish,"
{except in fIimsy ciaims by christians}
pe0pIe say
y0u have never dem0nstrated he exists in the first pIace,
aIs0, they say
"there are s0 many c0ntradicti0ns, pIain stupidity, and imm0raIity perpetrated by the g0d 0f the bibIe that he faIIs way sh0rt 0f his 0wn aIIeged primitive standard
he c0mmits gen0cide, murders babies, aII0ws sIavery and creates a pIace 0f
eternaI t0rture f0r th0se wh0 w0nt accept him"
these are n0t the acti0ns 0f a "I0ving g0d" they are the acti0ns 0f a br0nze aged
barbarian very simiIar t0 the barbarians wh0 invented him
he then fake sacrifices himseIf t0 himseIf t0 shed bI00d because he cant f0rgive with0ut bI00dshed
it d0esnt take that much understanding t0 see it is viIe n0nsense
theres very IittIe pr0fundity except pr0f0und stupidity
YESSS!! I have been saying a prayer right before I read my bible to the effect of: "lend me your discernment so the words might pierce my heart, lend me your wisdom so that I might understand more fully, you are the source of all things and all things come from you"
The Bible does explicitly tell us in scripture that Jesus is fully God and Fully man in one simple verse-->John 1:14 KJV - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Yeah, I'm inclined to believe what Jesus said about himself. I don't have to understand it, I just believe it.
Right! We also have Philippians 2: 5-8 (NKJV) - "5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross."
@@ultimojo868 sola scriptora.
Was literally thinking of commenting the same thing.
Separately, not judging Catholic brothers. Lots of old texts are informative, just not authoritative over Scripture. Blessings to all 😊
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy 𝙜𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙩 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙢𝙮𝙨𝙩𝙚𝙧𝙮 𝙤𝙛 𝙜𝙤𝙙𝙡𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙨𝙨: 𝙂𝙤𝙙 𝙬𝙖𝙨 𝙢𝙖𝙣𝙞𝙛𝙚𝙨𝙩 𝙞𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙛𝙡𝙚𝙨𝙝, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
1 John 4:2-3
[2] By this you know the Spirit of God: 𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙮 𝙨𝙥𝙞𝙧𝙞𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙘𝙤𝙣𝙛𝙚𝙨𝙨𝙚𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙅𝙚𝙨𝙪𝙨 𝘾𝙝𝙧𝙞𝙨𝙩 𝙝𝙖𝙨 𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙚 𝙞𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙛𝙡𝙚𝙨𝙝 𝙞𝙨 𝙛𝙧𝙤𝙢 𝙂𝙤𝙙, [3] 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙮 𝙨𝙥𝙞𝙧𝙞𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙙𝙤𝙚𝙨 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙘𝙤𝙣𝙛𝙚𝙨𝙨 𝙅𝙚𝙨𝙪𝙨 𝙞𝙨 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙛𝙧𝙤𝙢 𝙂𝙤𝙙. 𝙏𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙥𝙞𝙧𝙞𝙩 𝙤𝙛 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙖𝙣𝙩𝙞𝙘𝙝𝙧𝙞𝙨𝙩, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.
Yeah Bishop Barron - how beautifully stated!🙏🙏🙏
The man is a beast.
but like in a good way.
He was awesome calling on the authority of the Oecumenical council at Chalcedon. Convenient though considering this Council also demoted Romes synodal authority by declaring Constantinople the “New Rome” and granted it the same limited synodal authority as Rome nearly 500 years before Pope Leo III claim of primacy and not because of succession of Peter or any other Apostle but rather for the same pragmatic reason that Rome was declared first among equals to begin with, the mere stature and position of that City at that point in History.
@@thovenacha Saint would be more fitting
The matchless grace of God enables our hearts to believe what our tiny human brains cannot comprehend. Our words trying to explain holy mysteries are insufficient
I love your comment. So true, and put so succinctly. Thank you. Matchless Grace. 🙏
We are required to love God with all our minds as well as all our bodies, souls and spirits (Mk.12:30). Whilst everything that God reveals to us is true, He doesn’t reveal everything to us because it would overload us (obviously). However, God expects us to study and understand as much as we are able (some will understand more than others) 2Tim.2:15 and then to trust Him for all that is beyond our understanding. He takes a dim view of people deliberately remaining culpably ignorant (‘ignorance is bliss’) and then trying to justify ourselves by claiming ‘we don’t have to understand, we just have to believe’?! (In which case, ‘ignorance is sin’, a violation of the first and greatest commandment).
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What you said doesn't make any sense. It is also heresy.
much confusion and contention arises from attempts to eff the ineffable
Peasants started reading 100 years ago 💫
So true! Prior to the mid-800's, 80% of Christians could NOT read or write. So Sola Scriptura makes no sense!
Full disclosure, I am a retired Free Methodist minister:
1) In our Wesleyan tradition, we only hold to "sola scriptura" in matters absolutely essential to salvation. In other areas and issues, we place Scripture first, but also consider both tradition and reason. In reality, I think this is true of most evangelical groups, even if they don't admit it. When I was a pastor, I warned my people that if someone said they had found something in Scripture that no one had seen in 2k years of Christianity, they should run, not walk, in the other direction!
2) My degree is from a Baptist school, so I have exposure to a wide range of Protestant/Evangelical theology. I can say that this doctrine is UNIVERSALLY held by all. Among evangelicals, any other view is considered heretical.
3) Why is this the case? I would argue that it is primarily because the Scriptures are abundantly clear in this issue. As with the Trinity, the problem is that people insist upon being able to completely understand the nature of God, which is not possible for us. However, when we take Jesus and the Bible at face value we reach that same conclusion that Christians reached in 451 AD.
4) The fact that Scripture can be misinterpreted does not mean that it is not clear in its' teachings. People can and will distort ANY teaching - including that of the Catholic Church! (Trust me, I know as I have frequently corrected me evangelical brethren who have done just that.)
5) As far as if everyone holding an incorrect view of God and Christ is lost - well, that is not in our hands. It's our job to teach the truth.
If you want to talk about issues where the Scriptures are not as clear and people actually do misunderstand, try election and predestination.....
In any case, good video.
Just one question: Would you say that you are infallible as a pastor?
That's not true. God's working right now in our days, and prophecies are being fulfilled, that people wouldn't have understood back then. Plus God is leading me to reveal heavenly treasure from scripture.
Predestination and Choice both work in tandem. We have choice, but God foreknows them. I actually learned that from a Methodist Seminary Student. You're old school Methodist, I wish we had ten thousand just like you.
God bless! And greetings from the Saints!
Solid, lucid points. However, the heresies that were clarified by the Church - those people were Biblical readers too - and they firmly and earnestly believed their interpretation to be correct and Biblical. They weren’t half-ass dolts trolling other Christians. So this idea the Scripture alone is “clear” in its theology is Monday morning quarterbacking to the nth degree. One Church with Christ’s inerrant authority is paramount.
@@thomassalvi I certainly understand the Catholic position. My primary interest is the defense of the Christian faith - Catholic and Protestant.
That said, a few thoughts in reaction (rather than an attempt at refutation):
1) The essentials of the Christian faith - that both Catholics and Protestants affirm - are so clearly stated that anyone carefully reading the Scriptures and applying the basic rules of interpretation can discern them. If this were not the case, cults would not need to appeal to other authorities in order to deviate from them (no, I am not referring to the Catholic Church as a cult, as it affirms the essentials of the faith I am speaking of).
2) Many of the issues that are less clear do not affect actual Christian practice.
3) There are significant disagreements within the Catholic Church - many of which are theological. It is not a monolithic organization. (In fact, on some issues, such as sexual ethics, evangelicals and conservative Catholics are closer than either is to theological liberals in their own camps.)
4) Proper training in hermeneutics (the science of textual interpretation) is important for all clergy (Catholic and Protestant).
@@vincewardeyou have the holy Catholic Church. You have 48,000 man made protestant CULTS.
"His name will be Emmanuel meaning God with us." "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. The Word became flesh and dwelled amongst us. If anyone thinks they can get even close to comprehending the mystery of God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit then they are fully delusional.
Great video, but I'm not seeing what this has to do with debunking Sola Scriptura... do Catholics think that Sola Scriptura means if you can't find "hypostatic union" in the Bible, then only the Church can show that to you?
Protestants want to cite their Bible verses, for each and every single religious claim. Absolutely any belief must come from some verse, from *only* (Sola) the Bible (Scriptura). Sure, you can hear spiritual truth from your professor, who heard it growing up in the church, which has been passed down for centuries, or even thousands of years. But if it isn't sourced from somewhere in the Bible, then it's manmade.
I don't think that's the exact point of it. I think the problem stems from Sola Scriptura in itself. Scripture alone. Scripture isn't clear on all beliefs. The trinity, who should be baptized, canon of scripture, among other things. What they are trying to show you is that Scripture alone does not reveal everything. For instance scripture says Jesus is both God and Man but does not go into the hypostatic union of Jesus meaning he is fully God and Fully man. There were heresies that said he was only a good man and not trully God (Jehovah witnesses and similar to those who believe in reliving the last supper but saying it's not the presence of Jesus in any way) and heresies that said he was only God and took on the appearance of Man (Closely resembling Lutheran belief in consubstantiation). While the Hypostatic union would say that Jesus is God the Son but also a man who died for our sins closely resembling (transubstantiation of the eucharist). The Trinity in your line of thinking would be said that it's not clearly sourced in the bible so it must not be correct. It points to it but it was understood outside of the bible. The Canon of scripture points to some books but it does not clearly say what books are in the bible but it doesn't clearly state the canon. Do we do away with our bibles then? I would say no. I think you would say no as well. But there was an authority that taught these truths.
So my question to you would be. If there isn't a clear and concise point in the Bible is it true or not? For instance the bible does not speak on the best gardening methods but we can still have that truth outside of the Bible. (If you know this please let me know because my plants keep dying).
Love you brother. Please when you read this know that I am not attacking you but just trying to clarify and want to be respectful toward you on this topic.
You are not getting the point.
All four positions, including the three heresies, were based on scriptures. They were all interpretations of scriptural texts. Each position tried to argue for itself using scripture.
It was the divine authority of the Catholic Church that ultimately declared one interpretation to be right and the others to be wrong.
If they had only relied on the authority of scripture (sola scriptura), a resolution wouldn't have been possible because everyone had reasons to believe that scripture backed up their position.
I would love to discuss this face to face with both Roman Catholic and Protestant believers.
I am a life long Evangelical believer and I’m not sure Sola Scriptura is a sound doctrine but I do believe that the Bible IS the Word of God rather than contains the Word of God. I also believe that, in the absence of the Messiah/Christ, the Scriptures are the ultimate and final authority in all matters of faith and doctrine but they are not the only authority in all matters of faith and doctrine.
I believe much of what we hold as doctrine has to be inferred/deduced from what is explicitly stated in the Scriptures rather than the doctrine itself being explicitly stated within Scripture (Divine attributes, Tri-Personality of the One God, the Hypostatic Union etc.). Adopting a simplistic attitude toward Scripture, faith and doctrine will serve only to impoverish and shipwreck our faith.
I believe God is Reality in the absolute sense and, as such, is Himself, truth. I believe there is but One Truth (God Himself) and in order for anything to be true, it must be internally consistent and non-self-contradictory. I believe, because there is only One Truth, then anything that does not contradict Scripture as the revealed Word of God (2Tim.3:16-7; Heb.4:12-13) can be tentatively accepted as true and integrated into our world view accordingly.
I also believe that the Church, as the Body of Christ, must have some role to play in determining the truth in all matters of faith and doctrine and cannot be completely disregarded in favour of ‘every man his own pope’ (1Tim.3:15). I don’t believe Protestants or Roman Catholics have got it all right and I think there is more scope for dialogue. I believe we will not get it right until we function together in spirit, truth and unity and stop fundamentally repudiating the gospel of reconciliation by our denominational separateness.
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Agreed. I think there is a clear definition for sola scripture and solo scriptura. One says it must be found in the bible or at least point to it with lots of evidence. Solo scriptura is only the bible. If it is not in scripture explicitly we can not believe it. Every denomination has some sort of man made tradition even if they don't know it. Baptists have the tradition that only people old enough to have faith must be baptized. This isn't found in the bible except for hints toward it such as the people who we saw get baptized. In the case of households we don't see them say children. Lutherans believe in Consubstantiation which wasn't heard of till Martin Luther. It may have been posed but was not an accepted belief. Some believe in the sinners prayer which is not in the bible. There are man made traditions. However I look at the Church of Christ and they are the only ones who get heckled for it. Although their reasoning is found in their Authority rather than scritpure alone. It is pulled from Scripture and found to be scriptural with authority of the tradtion.
Though I don’t agree with everything that was said, I thought this was an excellent video with much food for thought and a good explanation as to why it is crucial to believe all the key doctrines of Judeo-Christianity as they are all inter-linked and stand or fall together. Keep up the good work guys!
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Nice video and informative. Keep up the good work
Now ask the Protestant girl about the blessed mother and they’ll split the divine and human in the blink of an eye.
And God bless you 🕊✝️🕊
Very helpful. ❤🇨🇦
This is what it is all about thank u so much !!😊
Perfect udestanding can only be given by With HOLY SPIRIT
Lol, as you can discern when it’s not Satan
So how did the Catholic Church come to the conclusion of the hypo static union? If they went to the scriptures and the scriptures alone they would have come to the right conclusion. How does that debunk sola scriptura? What other source of information did they have that led them to Jesus being both human and divine?
You are not getting the point.
All four positions, including the three heresies, were based on scriptures. They were all interpretations of scriptural texts. Each position tried to argue for itself using scripture.
It was the divine authority of the Catholic Church that ultimately declared one interpretation to be right and the others to be wrong.
If they had only relied on the authority of scripture (sola scriptura), a resolution wouldn't have been possible because everyone had reasons to believe that scripture backed up their position.
@@charlesudoh6034 you’re not getting the point. Scripture alone is authoritative. It has nothing to do with your interpretation. It is the Holy Spirit which guides in all truth.
John 16:13
1 John 2:27
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How then are there various scriptural interpretations among “sola scriptura” protestant churches?
These are churches that hold to scripture as the only infallible authority yet have different doctrines.
You said the Holy Spirit is the one that leads us into all truths and as a Catholic, I completely agree.
The question is how does the Holy Spirit do this? Does He individually lead us or does He lead us collectively through the church Jesus established, the same church that is called the pillar and foundation of truth?
@@charlesudoh6034 In other words the scriptures are God breathed, inspired. Interpretation is not , without being in agreement with scripture. Holy Spirit guided.
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It seems that you haven't addressed the questions I asked earlier. How do you explain the fact that different Protestant churches, all of which profess that scripture is God-breathed and the only infallible authority, have ended up with different and contradictory doctrines, all derived from scripture?
Bless you, everyone please please study and read the Bible, learn our Catholic teachers and wisdoms. Please!
Bible actually proves catholicism isn't even Christianity.
Compare all your teaching in the church body that you attend with scripture being the truth. Do not accept what you are taught without questioning it.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 well stated. if they'd simply believe the Word of God, they too could be following Truth! catholicism hates our Creator.
@@tony1685the holy Catholic Church is Jesus Christ himself on earth so you say a typical silly protestant thing. Now leave your man made protestant CULT or lose your immortal soul.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072leave your man made protestant CULT or lose your immortal soul.
Wonderful!
5:50 The Church came to these conclusions after much debate using the Scriptures as the standard. Why does it matter what we believe on these six issues? It only matters if what we believe is based on what the Scriptures teach. The Church can bear testimony to what we have always believed but if it invents new dogma then that means that we don't have "The Faith once for all delivered". Who knows what we might need to make up at some future council. It doesn't matter what we believe about these things if it is just a matter of what we decide, we could decide differently. What matters is what God DID declare in his holy word.
something doesn't need to be explicit to be clear - scripture is clear, on every matter, even the hypostatic union. But only those with the eyes of faith can believe it
I am a former Roman Catholic and i appreciate videos like these in a way because of the essential doctrines we share such as this one, specially the way Bishop Barron described it. But i did not see how what the protestant girl who define the true natures of God accurately, debunked the doctrine of Sola Scriptura since in the scriptures alone we can find both natures of Christ. Anyway be blessed.
If you have to lie and say that the Bible doesn't say that Jesus is 100% human and 100% God, then you are more concerned about winning a silly argument, than you are with telling the truth.
Then what verse do Literally say that "HE is 100% Divine and 100% Man in his nature". The speaker only highlights the magesterial authority of the Church to teach the correct interpretation of the bible verses. Also, he doesn't say that the principle of hypostatic union is no where to be found in the bible. But rather he did an excellent job in putting the facts right, that these kind of doctrinal specifics and terminologies had not been explicitly discussed in the scriptures. Yet we must be thankful that the church expounded these essential doctrines through out the history, to avoid new protestant notions and teaching this day, that Jesus was not fully divine and fully man.
Again, he is not against the bible, but this was presented in order to give an awareness that the bible must not be interpretted in one's own self interpretation. That most people this day made themselves popes of their own belief as they give their lwn interpretation to each verses apart from Christ's body, which is the mageistetial teaching of the Catholic Church.
Have a blessed day 😊
Sola Scriptura doesn't stand alone. It's part of this series:
Sola Fide
Sola Gratia
Sola Scriptura
Solo Christo
Soli Deo Gloria
If this is interesting to anyone, read St. Anselm's treatis Cur Deo Homo. He treats this in a very understandable way.
To claim to be Christian and yet speak against the Bible is apostasy. Any doctrine not 100% Bible-based is false and void.
Church is the pillar of truth. Tells you that in the Bible.
@d3adp94 what church, the apostasy church's breaking all of the laws of God!
God didn't come into a human body. He came as a human body.
I had a misunderstanding about this subject with a Catholic because I misunderstood what Sola Scriptura means. It was my understanding that this means that every doctrine needs to be backed up with scripture in context and as a whole not that scripture alone can speak to a Christian. That would invalidate any message from any Priest, Pastor, or biblical teacher. I see a lot of hostility between Christians, man if we can't have a civil conversation about these things then how can we show the unsaved the love of Christ. This is sectarianism at its finest.
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3:39 Monophysitism seems to be referring to Eutychianism which held that the two natures blended in to a "Third Substance". Chronologically that was right after Nestorius.
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giving fancy names t0 what is essentiaIIy n0nsense
“The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
Jesus is the centre of human history and the answer to all our existential issues. This is precisely because He restored human nature to its original pristine sublimity ,grace and divinity by uniting in him the divine and the human in faultless perfection. Perfectly human perfectly divine,that's the central feature of the Incarnation. Nothing can ,no one can substitute Him in this. Every other man made programs systems of thought or avatars of one kind of the other fail to achieve what they propose (d) to achieve.
JESUS IS LORD . HALLELUJAH.
He is the mighty creator he can be anything he wants 🙏
Love your videos and how you gather such great and informative content for commentary. Keep up the good work brother. Just some honest feedback, I feel like some of your titles and images are a bit click baitish, for example this content isn't about sola scriptura as much as it is about how the church clarified what the bible already teaches about Jesus's divinity and humanness. Also the girl in your cover photo is a different girl than in your video.
Hey Yamato, Thank for the feedback. God Bless
🤦🤦🤦Where was the debunking? Sola Scriptura doesn't mean that people can't have mistaken ideas. If the aim was to engage in dialogue with Protestants, then this is a fail.
I’m so thankful that it’s Jesus who saves - and not my elaborate theology..!
The first millennium Church was orthodox, even Rome was orthodox.
Kyrie eleison ☦️
Jesus is divine who took on a human nature.
No.
Jesus was human, begotten from the Father, who was filled with the authority of the Father.
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Yes it does. 1 Corinthians 15 talks about Jesus being both God and Man.
1 Corinthians 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 1:1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Mathew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
I am a protestand, but I appreciate how the catholic church figured out and put in formula the trinity. that is, what church should do. I see no contradiction to sola scriptura though. the working out of scripure as the catholic church did well in this case does not mean that it condradicts scripture. I only means that it interpretes and explains scripture. But always there has to be the ability of every believer to go back to scripture and debunk a possible wrong interpretation. Maybe it should rather be called "scripture first" than "only scripture". Protestants also interprete the bible, so it never can be "only" scripture. on the other hand one has to say stop whenever any church comes up with weird doctrins that cannot be found in scripture or seem constructed out of few verses that can as well be understood differently. (The physical ascencion of Mary into heaven? Really??).I admit that is less comfortable than an apostolic authority of the church. You have to dive into it on your own and see wether it makes all sense to you. And this can lead to different denominations and a lot of quarrel. But the doctrin of the trinity is a good example: If well made, it gets accepted by the vast majority of christians.
I agree with this. You brought up some good points. There are saints who were monks who stood up against the Churches teaching. Humbly because the Church was given authority in regard to interpretation of scripture. When there is discension in the Church of Christ we turn toward the Church for Guidance. As for Mary's bodily assumption. I don't have my literature near me or even the Bible. If you reply to this I will get to it and respond to you. Most of these come from Revelation though.
We can go over many things if you'd like about Mary.
1. Mary's sinlessness
2. Mary mother of God
3. Mary queen of heaven and earth
4. Mary's bodily assumption
@@thovenach Thank you for explaining. i respect your view of Mary. But I did NOT have personal revelation about her. And if I would just believe everyone who claims his private revelation, I would have to believe in countless contradictions. Sadly this "the holy ghost told me" or "Jesus said to me" thing is very widespread and i do not get rid of the feeling that this is mostly connected with personal ego, lazyness to actually read scripture and sometimes even with psychological issues. Not saying these things do not exist. But its impossible to distinguish the good from the bad. Maybe this is even more widespread within protestantism. I dont know. As for Mary and the 4 claims about her: I cannot find that in scripture. It seems interpretative. F.e. she surely gave birth to Jesus and Jesus is god. But does delivering his earthly vessel mean, she is the mother of god? As if she was there before god was. Thats strange. There is no nameeable sin reported about her. But she is not described differently to any other protagonist in scripture. from her conflicts with Jesus I would think, she was a very special woman. But sinless?
And the bodily assumption is not even remotely mentioned as far as i remember.
Thats the issue I have with catholic theology: You cannot really disprove the claims, but they seem very far fetched and sometimes may blurr the simple gospel. What do you think?
@@petervonbergen5364 Gah I had a long thing typed out and accidentally deleted it. I'll get back to this later :D
We live by Faith Alone ,in Christ Alone.You can’t live by Faith and obedience,because obedience is impossible ( trying to follow the Law perfectly) . The Roman Catholic says we live by Faith +works,if not this leads to antinomianism.There is another option- we live by Faith Alone,in Christ Alone.One destroys Grace,the other lives by Grace.
What does this video have anything to do with the title?
The question should be, what does it mean to you 🤔???. Everyone's walk with GOD is unique to them, and they need to find this for themselves.
Mark 4:34 tell us that there is more to the story than just scripture, he tells us that Jesus taught in parable to the people, but described everything in detail to his Apostles. That knowledge will only be passed down by the clergy through tradition and mystagogy.
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Sola scriptura does not mean that scripture is our only authority, it means scripture is the only infallible authority. The church does have authority as well, it just has to be submitted to the authority of scripture. This understanding of sola scripture has been lost to more radical protestantism, but it is retained in high church protestantism, like confessional lutheranism. Many catholics only attack the more radical position but never deal with, or even understand, the more balanced doctrine. If you read the arguments of the early church fathers against christological heresies, they make all their arguments by appealing to scripture. Why is that?
📜 Jeremiah 7:2 Stand at the gate of the house of the LORD and proclaim this message there: Hear the word of the LORD, all you of Judah who enter these gates to worship the LORD!
3 Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: Reform your ways and your deeds so that I may dwell with you in this place.
4 Do not put your trust in these deceptive words: “The temple of the LORD! The temple of the LORD! The temple of the LORD!”
...16 You, now, must not intercede for this people! Do not raise a cry or prayer in their behalf!k Do not press me, for I will not listen to you!
17 Do you not see what they are doing in the cities of Judah, in the streets of Jerusalem?
18 The children gather wood, their fathers light the fire, and the women knead dough to make cakes for the Queen of Heaven,*
while libations are poured out to other gods-all to offend me!
19 Are they really offending me-oracle of the LORD-or rather themselves, to their own disgrace?
📜 1Corinthians 10:11 Now these things happened to them as an example, and they have been written down as a warning to us, upon whom the end of the ages has come.*
12 Therefore, whoever thinks he is standing secure should take care not to fall.*
13 No trial has come to you but what is human.
God is faithful and will not let you be tried beyond your strength;
but with the trial he will also provide a way out, so that you may be able to bear it.
14 Therefore, my beloved, avoid idolatry.
The church, both Catholic and Protestant, has it right--it's a mystery. We can't understand it and in my view need not even accept it so long as we get about executing the tasks God gives us during our time. I expect many readers will disagree and that's correct too. Probably we're both wrong.
4:27 Council of Chalcedon 451 A D. It took the Church about 4 centuries to figure it out?
Only about 70 years after the church figured out the canon of scripture, which took much longer…
History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, - the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, - the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century and ONLY the 27 books, - not only did they not agree but their individual lists of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time, growing in numbers of hundreds of “inspired” NT writings.
Therefore, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved it by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself?
Peace!!!
@@srich7503 The Church testified to what God inspired, the books were inspired the minute the ink hit the page. Paul didn't need to send his letter to the Galatians to a council in Jerusalem before he sent it to Galatia. The Church exists today but it never was an official organization like the Vatican of today. If I were to go with an organization I would say that the Bishop of Rome went into schism in 1054.
@@glstka5710 thats nice but it does not answer the question above, specifically - 1) that the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, and 2) that not only did they not agree on the 27 books but that their individual would-be canons were GROWING during this era.
Also, if you are going to go with the Orthodox, the Catholic church says - Cool! They are just as much a part of the true church as we are. Sadly they do not share our sentiments. And then again there is the problem with, which Orthodox?, since they are not all in communion with each other? 🤷🏽♂️
I like what Bishop said, but how and why on Earth such a weird clickbiteing title that also isn't true? She did not debunk anything in her speech.
Here is how we come to the doctrines that Jesus was fully divine and fully human. Jesus was fully human because he was born from a human mother. Jesus had two legs, two arms, two eyes, two ears, he spoke Aramaic, he was a Jew and was a brother, son, and member of his community the Jews and from the lineage of David.
We get the idea that Jesus was divine from the fact that he was conceived by the Holy Spirit. We get the idea of his divinity by his resurrection and by the words of Christ himself.
All of this is substantiated in the scriptures. Any questions?
Yes.
What do you think a Jew is?
Jesus was an Israelite of the tribe of Judah.
His faith was that of Moses, the law and the prophets. He did not follow Judaism which began in Babylon as a corruption of the faith.
He was born in Judea and lived latterly in Galilee.
h0w d0 y0u dem0nstrate he was c0nceived by the h0Iy spirit
when y0u have never dem0nstrated that g0d 0r the "h0Iy spirit" even exist ?
if he r0se fr0m the dead what did he sacrifice ?
n0t his Iife, cIearIy he returned unharmed iIIustrating he did n0t give up his Iife
just his time
his return degrades reaI sacrifice
his kn0wing he w0uId return makes his "sacrifice " a meaningIess trick
he`s imm0rtaI bef0re the crucificti0n, he`s imm0rtaI after the crucificti0n
what`s he I0st ? n0thing
I d0nt beIieve in the resurrecti0n because it is sensIess t0 cIaim imm0rtaI g0d status then cIaim he died then teII us he`s aIive again
it is an inc0herent taIe t0Id by 2000 yr 0Id haIf wits
One of the heresies claims that although Jesus is fully God, he only appeared to be human.
This interpretation acknowledges that Jesus was born of a woman and appeared and behaved like a human, but denies that he had a human nature. Proponents of this view argue that God has the ability to appear and behave as a human without possessing a human nature.
The issue here is that based on your explanation and scripture, it's not possible to prove that Jesus wasn't just God appearing as human, but was both God (divine nature) and human (human nature). The Bible isn't clear on this.
It was the authoritative declaration of the Catholic Church that affirmed that Jesus was fully God and fully human, not just appearing as a human.
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yes, men decided whether he was haIf man haIf biscuit, haIfman, haIf imaginati0n
the w0Ie c0ncept fuIIy g0d pretend human is pathetic in the extreme
the fact that gr0wn men sit and discuss whether their imaginary friend can be as p0werfuI as superman 0r a m0rtaI man is
an indicati0n 0f h0w 0bscene the wh0Ie 0f christianity is
"It was the "authoritative" {I0I} declaration of the Catholic Church that affirmed that Jesus was fully God and fully human, not just appearing as a human.
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I wonder what Jesus will say to Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant Christians one day as we fellowship with Him together in heaven? I wonder if He'll say "I'm so glad you all spent so much time accusing each other of being wrong and focusing on debate and petty points over spreading the Gospel like I clearly told you to do. Excellent use of time my children!"
Please tell me where in the bible it speaks of redeemed man living in heaven?!
The hope is in the physical resurrection.
When the thief hung on the cross, he asked Jesus to remember him when he came into his kingdom.
The kingdom is his millennial reign kingdom on earth.
In my Father's house are many mansions.
Heaven is not the Father's house.
The Father's house is the coming kingdom.
And Revelation tells us God himself will dwell on the new earth.
Read the bible instead of listening to myths.
Brother, my one comment is to remind you of 2 Timothy 2:14: “Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen.”
The Devil divided our families and is now pitting us against one another. It is of no value to attack each other as being “debunked.”
I agree we should discuss all matters with grace and love and fearful reverence to our God, in search of true doctrine on all things, but we should do so first and foremost with respect toward unity. Just as it mattered not whether one followed Paul, another Barnabas, and a third Peter, so we should not care if we are Catholic, Protestant, or what not. As long as our foundation is on declaring Christ as our Lord, and living in reverence and submission to His will, we can be united.
And apologies if it seems as I was judging, I am not. I see too much fighting on this thread where we need to love our fellow brothers and sisters and stand against all sin and evil.
My brother Stay warmed don't be lukewarm , Jesus bring sword not peace, Jesus teaching is of great value, anything used of it otherwise is need to be reminded...loving our fellow brothers and sisters is not letting them what they wanted,,,,loving them is to remind them that they are in the different direction....Nobody can tempt GOD and the only way to be near to GOD is Holy Bible....remember scripture is the easiest way to use by Satan in tempting Jesus our GOD. There are so many people now adays using the name Jesus,,,,,Interpreting Holy Bible in their own belief, thus there will come a time if this trend in interpreting by itself,,,,all streets in the city have their own churches proclaiming it as the true church....but true Jesus in the Holy Bible established only ONE Holy Church....and thats we should searched and proclaim....Peace be with you my brother...
@@winstonmaglangit6190 amen, brother. That’s why I specifically said we should be discussing to reach the truth, and to stand against all evil and sin. I completely agree that we need to be vigilant and to stand against heresy.
I only implored because I saw Protestant brothers responding that this is “nonsense” and felt equal animosity from Catholic brothers. The devil lurks behind such division.
@@Averageoldlawyer Amen my brother...
This Video didn't debunk Sola Scriptura but just clarified that Jesus is God and Human.
All this goes back to when the angel Gabriel told Mary she would be the mother of God and was taken by the holy spirit a shadow over took her and Jesus was conceive not by man or her soon to be husband Joseph but by the holy spirit so Jesus was DNA Mary and the spirit of God not of man so why are people disagree when it's oveious that Mary is the mother of God and Jesus who is God 😂 I don't see how they can argue what is very oveious!!!
3:51 Chronologically Arianism was much earlier so it wasn't a third in relation to the others. It didn't try to split the difference because there was no difference there when Arius made his mess.
St. Nicholas of Myra punched out Arius. When Santa Claus beats you up, you know you have been a very naughty boy indeed!
There's also Docetism--Jesus is God PRETENDING to be human.
It's clearly implied all through the Holy Bible.
No, it is not.
One of these heresies claims that Jesus, who is fully God, merely took on the appearance of a human.
This position agrees that Jesus was born of a woman and looked and behaved like a human, but that doesn't mean he had a human nature.
They would rightly argue that God has the power to take on the appearance and mannerisms of a human without having a human nature.
The problem is that scripture alone can't prove that Jesus wasn't just God in the appearance of a human, but that he was God (divine nature) and human (human nature). The Bible isn't just clear on that.
It took the divine authority of the Catholic Church to decree that Jesus was fully God and fully human, not just the mere appearance of a human.
@@charlesudoh6034 Jesus told Thomas to touch his hands and side. Physical body. He gave His human spirit when He died on the cross. Fully human clearly. The same goes for His fully Divine nature. The Word became flesh and nothing was created without Him. Fully God. It's all in the Bible.
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His physical body and his death do not prove human nature.
In the Old Testament, angels visited Abraham and they came in the form of humans, they even ate and drank with him. That then doesn't mean they were fully human.
Like I said, the heretics were also familiar with the biblical texts and they weren't convinced it demonstrated that Jesus had a human nature.
The biblical texts allow for both interpretations even though there is only one true interpretation.
This is why sola scriptura is unsound. You couldn't arrive at certainty as to the truth of Jesus' humanity using scripture alone. The same goes for other doctrines central to Christianity.
You need an authority outside scripture (the church) to infallibly interpret scripture.
@@charlesudoh6034 Yeah, the Holy Spirit.
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Sure, we both agree the Holy Spirit is the one who interprets scripture. He is the author after all.
The question now is how does the Holy Spirit do this interpretation?
For Catholics, we say that the Spirit does this by guiding the Church. The Church that Christ established on Peter and the Apostles.
_Matthew 16:18-19, Jesus says to Peter, "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock, I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."_
_John 14:26, "But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have said to you."_
_John 16:13, "But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on His own; he will speak only what He hears, and He will tell you what is yet to come."_
Jesus built His Church on Peter and the Apostles and promised that the Holy Spirit would guide them into all truth and remind them of everything He taught. The Church's teachings are not merely human opinions but guided by the Holy Spirit.
However, for Protestants, this guidance of the Holy Spirit is individualistic. Sola Scriptura implies that the Holy Spirit guides whoever reads the scriptures. The problem with that is, what do you do when two people read the same scripture and come up with different and contradictory doctrines, while both claiming to be inspired and guided by the Holy Spirit. How do you determine who (if any) was inspired by the Holy Spirit?
Scripture explains that Yeshua the Messiah is God incarnate. There are various verses, with John 1 but one example of many.
1:11 Others might interpret those same verses differently - People can always interpret things wrong but that doesn't mean that there is no right interpretation. If you need Church councils then you are saying God didn't know how to speak clearly in the first place. Also, people can interpret what the councils say differently and if you say more to clarify the councils people will be able to interpret your clarification differently. There's no end to it. People will always interpret things differently but that doesn't prove that what is misinterpreted is insufficient.
Yes there will always be different interpretations but there will always be one that is the majority and most inline with what the church has already taught
This is pure angels on a pinhead.
It's the Council of Chalcedon
3:29 Nestorianism held that Christ was two persons the divine God and the human Jesus and they were two different person in the one body.
The Protestant girl did not debunk the doctrine of "Sola Scriptura," since there are Scriptures below my post pointing out the fact that the LORD God Jesus Christ is fully human and fully God. The Metropolitan Bishops and the others that votes in the early Church Councils used the Bible to confirm their doctrines. A Protestant will Not reject Catholic teaching unless it contradicts the Word of God, this idea does not. For example: Metropolitan Bishop of Alexandria, (spiritual father of Athanasius, who later became the Metropolitan Bishop of Alexanrdria, defender to the Trinity), Alexander, excommunicated the heretic Arius, and Bishop Alexander was the moderator of the Council of Nice, where the Nicene Creed was voted on in 325 AD. No true Christian will reject the words, "...God of God, light of light, true God from true God, Begotten, not made, being of one Substance of the Father by Whom all things were made."
I remembered this part of the Athanasian Creed listening to this video clip: "Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood. Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood into God."
If you want Scriptures on Christology subject matters go read Dominus Iesus, written in the year 2000 by Cardinal Ratzinger, (aka as Pope Benedict XVI, and signed by Pope John Paul II...and I am a Protestant.
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The imputation of the active obedience of Christ ,by Faith Alone ,in Christ Alone is the way Christians lead their lives .The false Gospel of the Roman Catholic Church teaches the opposite. We live by Faith Alone,not Faith +works ( which is another form of bondage) .Turn to Christ,you can’t work your way to Heaven.
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Arianism which is now Jehovah’s Witness doctrine, is stating that the son is created and not eternal and ever existing. His divine nature is different and lower than the divine nature of God the Father. Arianism is before the Christological controversy of Nestoriansim & Monophysitism and before the Council of Ephesus in 431 AD and the Council of Chalcedon in 451 AD.
Arianism is not on the spectrum of Christological Controversies, it is the worst heresy!
I don't think that debunks soloa scriptura.
It’s like saying “this circle is full circle and fully triangle.” Actually we know both circles and triangles exist. So it’s more like saying “ King Arthur was fully human and fully leprechaun. “ we have stories about King Arthur and Jesus. And what a person can believe about either of the two says nothing about reality. I find it hard to believe a trinity when you have God informing Jesus that that he is his son and he is pleased with him in Mark. Oh and btw that Jesus felt like he needed a baptism for the forgiveness of sins. So he might be sinful.
Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ, I am an Apostolic Christian, that is why my Faith is the Faith of the original Apostolic Community, that is, Orthodox, and my Sending to the whole World is the Sending of the Apostles, that is, Catholic! Having said that, it is clear for me that the "definitions" of certain things, that is, the "Dogmas" are not changing the Reality and the Divine Revelation that made some of it known to us - whatever the words by which we try to express this "fragment"! But if you try to "explain" to Jesus (not to me, who am I?) and do not truly repent of now, that you split His Body and killed your neighbors in 'self-defence', or for "defending the Dogmas, the Honor of Jesus, the Church, the Christian Values, your family, your friends, your land, whatever" - then I tell you: Jesus will send you away from Him, together with those whom He mentioned in the Gospel, because you chose all these things instead of His Commandments, that is, you loved them more than Him! Veritatis Missio
Which Orthodox do you speak of, since they are not all in communion with each other and therefore “split” themselves?
Protestants owe everything they know about Jesus and the Holy Trinity to the Catholic Church just like they owe the Canonical New Testament to the Catholic Church that defined it and rejected apocryphal sources.
Yet, they claim thd Catholic Church doesn't understand the Scriptures and has no authority in interpretation matter.
They also act as if the nature of Jesus was obvious in the New Testament and they were smarter than the Apostles who had hard time understanding who he was.
I respect a lot of things the catholic church but I can't agree that I need someone else to tell me God's plan for my life. Why should God's will be subject to the bias of man?
CATHOLICISM=RELIGION
CHRISTIANITY=RELATIONSHIP
lol Catholicism is the only true Christianity. It has been since Jesus Christ established it in 33AD. You follow a modern man made watered down heretic version of it.
Let me guess. You accepted Jesus as your personal saviour? You realise that isn’t in the Bible? Do you know where it came from? Charles Fuller (1887-1968). Fuller used the phrase thousands of times in his incredibly popular Old Fashioned Revival Hour radio program that aired from 1937 to 1968. Boom!
Catholicism is the only true Christianity. It has been since Jesus Christ established it in 33AD.
Catholicism is the only true Christianity ever since Jesus Christ established it in 33AD.
Jesus Christ established the Catholic Church in 33AD as the one and only form of true Christianity.
To keep it simple Catholicism is a works based salvation. Reformed theology is a grace based salvation. The book of Galatians as well as many other scriptures points to grace based salvation. In the CC you need to jump through many steps to continual earn grace. In reformed theology we have been born into the faith with a personal testamony. We receive a believers baptism. We are sanctified continually as we repent and let the Holy Spirit do His work in our lives. We have peace because Christ did it all at Calvary.
The Catholic church published its Catechism for the very reason of this straw man attacks on her. You dont have to read it but more and more people are and understanding its teaching every day and seeing the nakedness of your straw man. 👍🏻
Also, your Reformed theology profession, while cute and im sure what you truly believe, does not encompass the whole of Protestantism, what this video was pointing to. The sad fact is, there is no one position that does, Sorry!🤷🏽♂
Why use the a woman to try and support what you say. As Paul says “I suffer a woman not to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather she should remain quiet.” 1 Tim 2:12
Thanks for proving the point.
How about using someone like Dr. William Lane Craig and then maybe you can say something.
This is nothing but cheap point scoring at the level of a school child.
You got that right
“Child” thats the point!!!
All the evidence of Jesus being both wholly a man and the God is in the Bible.
Colossians 2:9,10 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity dwells in bodily form. And you have been made complete in Christ, who is the head over every ruler and authority.
If you are not able to fully defend your position by the Bible, it is either an error or the opinion of a man.
Galatians 1:8 ❤
Catholic church is founded by Christ himself
still wondering what they are pretending is comparable to God's Word.....
Tony, as an SDA you should research the story of Bruno Cornacchiola who plotted to assassinate the pope but the Virgin Mary appeared to him. You seem so full of hate. You must have a miserable life.
Tony, as an SDA you should research the story of Bruno Cornacchiola who plotted to assassinate the pope but the Virgin Mary appeared to him.
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Jesus said his most important teaching is to love one another as I have loved you. SDA hate comes not from Jesus but elsewhere.
@@Knight-of-the-Immaculata and part of that love is keeping His Ten Commandments -- 1 John 5:3
yet catholicism teaches contrary His Commandments and mandates sin.
care to discuss that fact, Sir?
Did Jesus though to pray to Mary, and saints and praying for the dead
Yes. The book of Maccabees shows prayer for the dead prior to Jesus. And yes Intercessory prayer is taught throughout the Bible. It's been thought for 2000 yrs. Protestant denominations don't follow Christian history and didn't exist for over 1500 yrs after Christ therefore they have no teaching authority or guidance.
If you in heaven how can you be dead 😂
You crazy
Read the Bible of the transfiguration.... Jesus spoke to Moses and Elijah... They died 1000s of years before Jesus... If they were dead why is Jesus talking to them?
Whats wrong with you?
Who taught you such utter nonsense.... So if you go to heaven then you dead 😂
Heaven is the place of the living not the dead.
IF you believe in sola Scriptura then go read of the transfiguration... Geez some people listen to and believe any rubbish....
Mary, Mother of God hadn't died yet. The saints of the NT hadn't been established yet. John 11:41-44 Jesus prays to God to raise Lazarus.
@@Hospitaller1099 Jesus neaver prayed to God to raise Lazuras. " He cried in a loud voice, Lazuras come forth". His prayer was so that "they would believe that thou hast sent me"
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So they took away the stone. Then *Jesus looked up and said, “Father, I thank you that you have heard me. I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me.* ”
When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!” The dead man came out, his hands and feet wrapped with strips of linen, and a cloth around his face.
Jesus said to them, “Take off the grave clothes and let him go.”
John 11:41-44
Wrong premise (the Scriptures don't layout Jesus as God and Man) will lead you to wrong conclusions...
Wow smart!
It was NOT Jesus Who incarnated as the Messiah/Christ but YHWH (Jn.1:1,14) which is why the Messiah/Christ (rather than Jesus) is called Emmanuel - God with us (Matt.1:22-23). In other words, ‘God’ is YHWH, not Jesus whilst ‘with us’ is Jesus not YHWH but the Messiah/Christ is God with us. Such subtle distinctiveness appears to be completely beyond some people’s comprehension (especially many Christians)?
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Prior to 599 AD, all Christiandom were "catholic" small c, ie all bishops in Christiandom were co-equal enter 599 AD, every bishop in the west prior to that was called pope. The assertion by the bishop of Rome at that time so called- Gregory I that he should have authority over the Roman Empire is the start of Roman Catholicism. There is a reason why the word Roman is affixed to Catholicism - it is because there are other catholic churches (meaning universal ie for all people) who do not accept the whole teaching of the Romanists. Christology of Jesus being both God and Man has already been ironed out before the Papacy of Rome's Gregory came along - the Council of Chalcedon - see the Nicene Creed which is 352 AD ie prior to 599 AD to which Classic Protestants - ie the Evangelicals (Lutherans), Anglican, Reformed subscribe ie pre 599 AD - so this video is false information, as if the RCC derived that doctrine by tradition - the Nicene Council went to the Scriptures to affirm Jesus is both God and Man - ie it is easy to see that he is human but the proof that he is also God takes some unpacking from the Scripture thus the Nicene Creed states God from God true God from true God. As sadly and as normal RCC engages always in tribal triumphalism by fiat.
This doesn't eliminate Sola Scriptura. How silly of you. Evangelicals recognize that there is a Trinity even though the word Trinity isn't in Scripture, but we believe that the Trinity is true because of what SCRIPTURE says.
another great roman catholic apologist "debunker".
Debunked? Ha ha ha. Sola Scriptura doesn't preclude making inferences based on Biblical data. You didn't even attempt to show how she "debunked" Sola Scriptura.
Wrong understanding. Just because the Word became flesh he is now human? No, he remains divine but man in flesh or physical being in image. He is not like us human. Had Jesus came to us like a buffalo in physical image, he is not a buffalo by its nature but divine being.
Referring to the passage in which Jesus says only the Father knows when the end of the age is, a Muslim triumphantly says that "Jesus is not God because He does not know". How do we confront this absurd proclamation? Please do a short video on it.
When Christ, an infinite, all powerful being came down in the form of a man, He humbled Himself. He limited Himself from eternal and omnipotent, to finite and vulnerable. He limited Himself and was sent to do ONLY what the Father willed Him to do; and showing us the time of His second coming was not within His revelation to us, so His Father did not show Him that while He was finite in flesh.
@@HellenicPapist Wonderful answer! May I cut & paste it, with you name on it, of course?
@@lyndavonkanel8603 Absolutely, my brother in Christ.
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@@HellenicPapist Thank you! And I am your sister in Christ.
@@lyndavonkanel8603 Oh I am so sorry! I misread your username, my _sister in Chrisr!_ God bless ❤️✝️
Human in physical form. Not in nature.apostle paul said same he was flesh and blood like us.not in nature yet without sin
3:24 Bishop Barron is not really defining these views right and is getting them out of chronological order.
#1 the church didnt establish that Jesus Christ is God. God established that Jesus is fully God in the flesh. Jesus, who is fully God, stated He was God fully, not the church... The Holy Spirit was sent to fill us with God's devine nature, so once we except Christ as God and Saviour, we confess Christ is the Salvation from death do to our sins, we as Christians receive the gift of Salvation, eternal life and God is in each of us, we receive the Holy Spirit, which is clearly God in us, the light that shines from God through us... Over whatever amount of time, the Holt Spirit tranforms us into a new person, as we allow the Holy Spirit to grow in us, to direct our paths, to allow God to lead us through obedience to His commands, if we don't stray from the path God has before us through prayer and knowledge of the Word of God , who is Christ Jesus, we shall have eternal life.
As Jesus states: No one comes to the Father except Through Jesus Christ...
READ : 1 John, the whole five chapters...
You have the holy Catholic Church. You have 48,000 man made protestant CULT. It’s typical of protestant heretics to get those verses wrong when Paul says there’s only one mediator between God and man the man Jesus. This has nothing whatsoever to do with prayers of intercession it’s saying to the Jews you can no longer go to God the father directly as you did but now only through Jesus. I tell protestant’s to leave their man made protestant CULTS. ONLY Catholic’s are Christian because there’s ONLY ONE CHURCH
3:56 Arianism said that Jesus was god but that he was a created god not the Eternal God. Modern Jehovah's Witnesses make this same error. Basically you have two. Big God created Little god then the two created everything else.
Centuries old councils and fancy doctrine names for the things that are plainly there. Jesus is "The Son of Man" and also "The Almighty"
The doctrine is in the Bible. What isn’t in the Bible are prayer beads, praying through Mary, having a Pope.
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The doctrine of the hypostatic union is NOT that ‘Jesus’ is both Divine Creator and human creature 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ but rather the Son [the Second Person of the One Tri-Personal Divine Creator, YHWH], incarnate as the Messiah/Christ, is both Divine Creator [YHWH] and human creature [Jesus of Nazareth] (Matt.1:21-23; Jn.1:1,14)
Jesus is no more Divine than YHWH is human but, whilst Jesus of Nazareth IS the Messiah/Christ, there is (quite literally) infinitely more to the Messiah/Christ than just the human creature.
No. The Messiah/Christ is ONE PERSON [the Son] simultaneously existing, by means of TWO distinct but NOT separate NATURES, in TWO DIFFERENT WAYS as both Divine Creator [YHWH] and human creature [Jesus of Nazareth]. The Messiah/Christ is neither ‘fully God’ nor ‘fully man’. Instead He is BOTH authentic God AND authentic Man but the way He exists as human creature is NOT the same as the way that He exists as Divine Creator. I am NOT a Nestorian heretic (the Messiah being a Divine Person and a human person (i.e. schizophrenic)?!)
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There were churches before Catholicism
They weren't protestants Catholic meaning universal church ( Roman, the orthodox and middle eastern Christian)
Yes, and they all believed in the same core teachings that the Catholic Church teaches (baptismal regeneration, true Eucharistic presence, etc.)
Can you name a Church that started before 33 AD, that teaches the fullness of the means of salvation ?
@@aussierob7177 the 1st church in Jerusalem by apostles Peter and John Peter acknowledged as the 1st pope
@@Wally-w2rThey weren't roman-catholic either.
Sola Scriptura is unbiblical and Protestants still haven’t given me a verse in the bible that teaches this. When they bring up 2 Timothy 3:16 they see what isn’t there. They also add words to the verse as well in some of their bibles. It says all scriptures and not only. Is profitable which means useful. This letter was send to Timothy who was a bishop and his ministry and not some lay man. I always tell Protestants to look at Ephesians 4 11-14 which was also send to Ephesus but the church as a whole. Verse 14 is Protestantism in a nutshell. Again Jesus left a system on place and not some layman to interpret scriptures.
Hello, may I ask how sola scriptura is unbiblical? I am not familiar with the ins and outs of what the “doctrine” may be, but from a glance it seems to mean the Bible is the word of authority in a Christian’s life. I’m not sure how that is unbiblical.
@@aintnoisepollution99 it’s unbiblical because it’s not our only source. It’s never been taught since the beginning. Again read Ephesians 4 11-14. God left teachers and not lay man to interpret scriptures . That’s Protestantism. Read your bible. The Bible says that the church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth.
@@aintnoisepollution99 it’s unbiblical because Scriptures is not our only source. We have a thing called oral tradition or apostolic tradition. It goes hand in hand.
Can someone walk me through what makes Mono Physitism right wing and Aryanism Left Wing? That's not obvious to me.
Your definition of Nestorianiam is misleading and unclear ( at 5mins 55 secs into the video). You just state Nestorianism taught that Jesus had two separate natures, one human and one divine - but you should have emphasised the real part of the heresy which wrongly maintained that Jesus was two separate persons, one human and one divine. Whereas the true and correct teaching is he was not two persons but only one person with two natures.
There is no need to depreciate the authority of the Bible . So why this a good argument for introducing, talking to dead people and preaching that Mary was always a virgin and that She is the Queen of heaven
For 1500 years after Jesus died and was resurrected there was only one church …..the Catholic
church founded by Jesus Himself when He anointed the apostle Peter as the first pope
" You are Peter and upon this rock I will build my church"
Then 1500 years after that along comes Luther ( after Satan had whispered in his ear) and split
the church apart ….just as Satan had instructed .
Luther Calvin and others started the rot . ( Now remember this was 1500 years after Christ
founded His church …..there was no protestant church at the time Jesus walked the earth ….it
was the Catholic church
Catholic means universal .
From the Greek word KATOLIKOS.
Martin Luther, an EX CATHOLIC wanted to reform the Catholic church but took it too far. He
began the great division in the church in the 16th century .He believed he was inspired by God
and that no one could criticize his ideas. He was a narcissist...he said " In a 1000 years no
bishop has been bestowed with such gifts as God has bestowed upon me". He said he is certain
that he has received his dogmas from heaven …..he said " I am the prophet of the Germans ".
But the fact is he followed the teachings of Henry of Ockham.
He started translating the bible from Greek without having any knowledge of Greek .He
translated the " man is justified by faith " into " man is justified by faith alone " he added the word
" alone " by himself .When someone criticized him for that he replied " Doctor Martin Luther
translates it that way and that's how I want it."....over 1400 errors were found in his translation
.He excluded certain books from the bible by his own authority …..he said the epistle of James
is nothing more than straw because it does not present any evangelical character. Regarding
the book of revelation he said that he does not find anything apostolic or prophetic in this book.
He commissioned rude paintings of the pope of that time and got it published
( is that the conduct of a holy man ….a man inspired by God ?).
When he blessed people he would say "
May the Lord fill you with his blessing and hatred for the pope.
( Is that a blessing ? Or a curse?)
On marriage he said that marriage is mandatory ….that woman was not created to be a wife
but to beget children they only serve for marriage or prostitution.
He said he hates divorce so much that he prefers bigamy. He allowed prince Phillip to have 2
wives and justified it based on the bible and when people found out…. he lied and said that one
was his concubine and not his wife.
He loved the virgin Mary and said she was the tender mother of God ….in his dining room
He had the crucifix and and image of Mary holding the infant Jesus .
He accepted baptism and the real presence of Jesus in the Holy Eucharist. He later said that
Lutheranism was no better than catholicism
Protestantism is from Satan.
Y Catholic Church did Jesus started catholic ministry
Yes
For 1500 years after Jesus died and was resurrected there was only one church …..the Catholic
church founded by Jesus Himself when He anointed the apostle Peter as the first pope
" You are Peter and upon this rock I will build my church"
Then 1500 years after that along comes Luther ( after Satan had whispered in his ear) and split
the church apart ….just as Satan had instructed .
Luther Calvin and others started the rot . ( Now remember this was 1500 years after Christ
founded His church …..there was no protestant church at the time Jesus walked the earth ….it
was the Catholic church
Catholic means universal .
From the Greek word KATOLIKOS.
Martin Luther, an EX CATHOLIC wanted to reform the Catholic church but took it too far. He
began the great division in the church in the 16th century .He believed he was inspired by God
and that no one could criticize his ideas. He was a narcissist...he said " In a 1000 years no
bishop has been bestowed with such gifts as God has bestowed upon me". He said he is certain
that he has received his dogmas from heaven …..he said " I am the prophet of the Germans ".
But the fact is he followed the teachings of Henry of Ockham.
He started translating the bible from Greek without having any knowledge of Greek .He
translated the " man is justified by faith " into " man is justified by faith alone " he added the word
" alone " by himself .When someone criticized him for that he replied " Doctor Martin Luther
translates it that way and that's how I want it."....over 1400 errors were found in his translation
.He excluded certain books from the bible by his own authority …..he said the epistle of James
is nothing more than straw because it does not present any evangelical character. Regarding
the book of revelation he said that he does not find anything apostolic or prophetic in this book.
He commissioned rude paintings of the pope of that time and got it published
( is that the conduct of a holy man ….a man inspired by God ?).
When he blessed people he would say "
May the Lord fill you with his blessing and hatred for the pope.
( Is that a blessing ? Or a curse?)
On marriage he said that marriage is mandatory ….that woman was not created to be a wife
but to beget children they only serve for marriage or prostitution.
He said he hates divorce so much that he prefers bigamy. He allowed prince Phillip to have 2
wives and justified it based on the bible and when people found out…. he lied and said that one
was his concubine and not his wife.
He loved the virgin Mary and said she was the tender mother of God ….in his dining room
He had the crucifix and and image of Mary holding the infant Jesus .
He accepted baptism and the real presence of Jesus in the Holy Eucharist. He later said that
Lutheranism was no better than catholicism
There were no protestants at the time of Jesus.... Protestantism was invented 1500 years after Jesus ascended into heaven