Wow, bro, I gotta say- awesome video. Indeed, at the end, you put into words exactly what I myself have been thinking lately. To give some context- I am a recent convert to Catholicism (in fact, I haven't even had my confirmation yet- it's coming up- but I already consider myself Catholic in mindset and practice). Anyway, I was already a strong Christian (I was raised Protestant)- and one of the main things (perhaps THE number one thing) that brought me to Catholicism was reading about what the early Church fathers (e.g. St. Ignatius of Antioch) wrote about the Eucharist. It led me to an in-depth reading and exegesis of John 6 (the "Bread of Life Discourse") and from there I was like "whoa! why have I never studied this before?!" And then, as you can imagine, it led me to start questioning everything else that I thought I knew about what it means to be Christian. It was inevitable that all this inspired me to become Catholic- and I don't mean thinking something like "ok, yeah, maybe I'll consider..." NO- I KNEW I HAD TO BECOME CATHOLIC! I started devouring information- reading articles, re-reading scripture in a new light, watching videos by priests, bishops, Catholic theologians, etc. and I have not stopped since- I am continuously learning (hence me stumbling upon your video here). Anyway- I completely agree with you- I honestly feel that any person who claims to be Christian could not reasonably deny transubstantiation/real presence after having taken the effort to learn about what the Bible says and what the original Christians believed. Truly, the Eucharist is something which has become a fascination for me. I have even written my own informal interpretation of the Bread of Life Discourse which I give to my Protestant family and friends if I sense that they are open to learning about it (based on professional exegeses combined with my own self-study). I have already inspired my wife (who was against it at first) to follow my decision, and I have seriously mentally-challenged my mother (who is a hard-core Baptist) and a couple of my Protestant friends. You and I don't know each other, but if you ever want to do some kind of collaboration or something, please do contact me- I am 100% serious. Peace and Blessings!
So wonderful to read your story! I can't tell you how many times I have busted my brain trying to explain the early church fathers and John 6 to protestants, but they just won't have it. They do all kinds of backflips trying to give their pastors explanations to refute Jn 6. You get it!!! Welcome to the faith. Oh and don't stop reading, because, odds are you won't get it from the pulpit. Just saying.
@@kathleenhamilton7608 Thank you! Yes- I definitely get it. Indeed, I consider myself very fortunate to possess quite an open mind (I guess that sounds conceited, but I feel that I have demonstrated it in my life enough to support my self-assessment), so I didn't have the prejudice against Catholics (or any other religion) that many people seem to have. I knew that I was a Christian, but I had still studied other religions in the past (e.g. Islam, Buddhism, etc.) simply to know more about them, and I did learn a lot. So, when I started studying the history of Christianity at the beginning of this year and it eventually led me to exploring Catholicism, I simply set aside any preconceptions and made it my goal to just keep learning. Sure, I was confronted with certain ideas that challenged me a bit, but fortunately, I didn't allow those challenges to discourage me from continuing to find out more and more. I honestly think that all Christians would be Catholic if they simply followed this example- taking the time to look into things and to discover new information without prejudice- in doing so, I think it would be hard to not arrive at wanting to return to the original church established by Christ. I believe "the unknown" and "the different" simply cause people to be uncomfortable, so they just reject it in order to avoid the discomfort. Peace and blessings!
This is exactly what I mentioned in JD Catholic engage channel. To not engage non Catholics if they are spewing hate insults sarcasm because that type of engagement will not make any progress and will end up wasting your time and casting your pearls before the swine. To only engage non Catholics who are interested in sincere discussions about Catholicism and help them better understand our Catholic beliefs. But I must say that in most Protestant comments they are the ones who straw man us with insults and blasphemous statements. We Catholics have to be the true Christian and respond with love and scripture to those mean types. St Matthew 7:6
Thank you! I watched this same video on instagram a little while ago and I’ve wanted to share it, but sometimes instagram is not the most convenient way to share or present. This just came across my recommended today and I’m stoked!
The Church of Christ was called universal (cathokus in the translation), His bride was made to be announced to every nation (Apostolic), alongside with the pardon of the sins which leaves to death (1Jo 5.16,17), also leaving the fraction of the bread that is the bread of life, Jesus himself in Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity (1 Corintians 11:18-34) already remarked as words of life by Jesus (John 6:48-53). The denominational thing begun with the Oriental Schism at 1054, saddly, with 2 positions, those who stayed with the community of Rome which had the bishop of Rome, the Pope, and the christians from the east, that claimed "ortodoxy", being schismatic as the went away from the Pope. During the second millenium, many ortodoxes community came back in unity with Roman community, even with different rites, but still doing the sacraments (pardon of the sins, baptism, eucharisty). The protestantism was a break-up from the sacraments, including Eucharisty. You still can contemplate God directly, not in a spiritual or symbolical way, but directly towards His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity, inside the temples whenever a eucharistic rite is done, like it was already done in the beguining and all the first millenium. Now this was ceased by Luther that negated God in this accesible way, limiting only to imagination and voice. Tragic way to lift up again the "veil of the hebrew temple", i cant blame people that born into a protestant family, including many pastors from traditional families, they hadnt access to it. Its wonderful, go and visit a mass. Its not a social reunion for reading the bible. You indeed read and hear scriptures during mass, but that's not the focus. When the bells rings, everyone must be quiet and respectiful. The priest is nothing but a instrument of God in that specific moment. Like Jesus did during the last supper, like how Apostle Paul told how it is done. "This is my Body... This is the chalice of my Blood..." Only those who had first communion, aknowlegde God there, and is without mortal sin, can receive Our Lord in the Eucharisty. We are all unworthy, that's why we ask Our Lady to prepare our hearts and teach us to worship better her Son. With her pure hands we are better fit to receive God, as she has merit of having no sin, in contrast to us. She knows best how to Adore her own Son. "Do whatever He says" She said once, and she will be saying everytime, so we can pursue holiness and avoid sin at any cost.
This is really the most heartwarming thing I’ve heard from a Catholic, and as a baptized Protestant in the same body of Christ, I appreciate and look up to the perseverance and dedication of the Roman Catholic tradition, even though I don’t agree with all of its theology, it is extremely hopeful that we will see the entire universal Church to come together and come to the unity of the One, True, Catholic, Apostolic Orthodox Church Jesus Christ designated for us to be in this generation.
We feel that gaping hole of them not being here with us! Amen brother! Love that you called the document a banger, every Magisterial document I have read has been a banger. I love Pope Francis' documents especially. Blessings!
The Roman Catholic Church wants all faiths to join together without any repentance or belief in Jesus Christ as the only begotten son of God. Repent and go back to your first love, Jesus Christ our Lord.
It would take each and every denomination and Catholic rite and Orthodox expression finding Christian humility and being correctable... which hasn't happened in centuries. It's a steep ask. But as a Protestant, I'd love it. As for the holy eucharist, it's hard to imagine needing to go beyond Jesus' words in explaining it. It's the body and blood, particularly pointing to His new covenant. It's the attempt at justifying it as such that gets us in trouble, just like when trying to explain the trinity. No more needed, receive by faith the real presence of Christ. This is the core Christian view of it. We could easily unite around Jesus' words.
@@bradyhayes7911 Thats a good question, Galatians 3:26-28 “For you are all children of God through faith in Christ Jesus. And all who have been united with Christ in baptism have put on Christ, like putting on new clothes. There is no longer Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male and female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.” We may argue about the little details of beliefs such as works or faith, or communion, and church heads but at the end of the day, Christ is the only one we need. He is our shelter and refuge, no human can save us, only Jesus can. I think you may agree with me, humans are corrupt and sinful, we can never save ourselves. This world just needs more of Christ, and I firmly believe he is the answer to every problem we face. I hope you find my comment thought provoking, I will be open-minded to your reply as well. Thank you for your time friend.
Galatians 3:26-28 “For you are all children of God through faith in Christ Jesus. And all who have been united with Christ in baptism have put on Christ, like putting on new clothes. There is no longer Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male and female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.”@@jaggedplanet
I wouldn't be surprised if absolute unity in the body of Christ will occur through persecution. Throughout scripture, we see God refining His people by allowing them to pass through difficult ordeals. On a personal level, God allows us to experience difficulties in the form of discipline, where we're drawn closer to Christ. If Christians are the body of Christ as Paul mentions, going through persecution would be consistent with Christ's life, torture, death and resurrection. Scripture and history both have instances where God allows an oppressor to rise up over His people, only to take what Satan intends for evil and use it for His glory and the good of His children. Persecution cuts through the red tape of corporate identities, makes personal ambition irrelevant and identifies what our confidence is rooted in. It's a blessing that brings us to the foundation of a reliance on Jesus Christ.
I love this! I’ve always believed one day God would draw all believers back to His one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church. And it’s because on the night before He died Jesus prayed all His disciples would be one so the world would know the Father sent Him. And that prayer will be answered affirmatively… I pray I see it my lifetime.
Always praying for unity!!!! As a prodestant who group up in a latin mass roman catholic church this document blows my mind. This church I group up in is not really accepted as they stick pretty hardily to 1960s Catholic doctrine more or less. I group up hearing the actually oposite about prodestants than this document. Craziness. Always praying for unity! Who knows but God how that will be achieved.
The Lord supper has been practiced by the Lutheran church since the reformation. always we believe in the real presence. Amen God bless our eastern orthdox and west catholic church aswell as the protestant denominations amen.
Correct me if I doctrinally wrong, but the Lutheran Church believes in "consubstantiation". That is the Body of Christ and the bread, and the Blood of Christ and the wine exist together at the exact same time. Further that once the service is ended that the Body of Christ reverts back to bread and the Blood of Christ reverts back to wine. The Catholic Church believes in "transubstantiation". That is the bread and wine become the _literal_ Body and Blood of Christ. The Body and Blood of Christ, called the "species", still has the appearance of bread and wine, but that is what we call, the "accident" of physical appearance and makeup. I emphasize the bread and wine are permanently converted, by the Priest with consecrated hands, into the _literal_ Body and Blood of Christ. And that "species" persists as long as the "accident" of form exists. Amazingly, about 70% of US Catholics do not believe in the "Real Presence". And that is really a very grave issue that the Catholic Church has to fix ASAP.
As a Plymouth Brethren (not the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church), I appreciate and support the call for ecumenism. I cannot, however, agree with the methodology you suggest towards reunification of the Protestants, Roman Catholics, and Orthodox. While Francis Chan may have changed his views on the metaphysics of the eucharist (communion, Lord's Supper, breaking of bread), to expect the breadth of Christendom to follow suit is a tall order. Even in the event that all Christians agreed on this point, there are many additional points of departure in theology between denominations which hold a great deal of significance to many Christians
@eatsleepcoderepeat9964 you see what you wanna see I have looked into every argument. I know catholicism is the truth you are biased I researched with no bias. U are blind
@@michaelbarry6589 I said read your Bible and believe it?? Not me… problem is when church fathers contradict the apostles themselves and preach a different Gospel
Don't put yourself down saying that you're not competent! The fact that you're researching all of this and wanting to explain this is answer enough to show that you are and want to go after this unity of the Church as a whole under Christ!
What if we followed the Anglican Orinariate formula for all protestant reunions with Rome? hehe "Well I'm off to Pentecostal-Rite Mass. It's my turn to babble the psalm in gibberish"
Honestly this is all very beautiful but the thing is that many churches all around the world say that they know the truth and that’s why everyone has to join them. If this is the approach of the catholic church i don’t know how many people want to unite. Everyone has opinions and beliefs, but i think the point is to genuinely talk to each other. And MOST importantly listen to the other. Everyone can learn from the other. The thing is that church is a tool. Don’t get me wrong it is an awesome tool that helps people have great experiences (as i had btw) but the point is to get closer to God together. Religions are trying to do this. But it’s time to let go of this thinking that there is one true church. That is not the point, but God and this whole wide world is. Time to let go of the thinking that we know everything cause we are from a certain religion. Yes there are clear good and bad stuff in this world which we have to separate as humans but the point remains clear. Time to really live with God and love each other.
But, you know, it's hard to talk anything about God if you don't agree well about who God is, and what is His message. Still, on what basis would you say there's no true Church when the Scripture openly points to being one? To be more palatable for the sincerely uninterested Western world? That wouldn't be true, and wouldn't be even effective. Liberal denominations have made similar things and failed, they're dying. Also, loving each other without a sure basis on truth is but a feeling. Feelings come and go, and then you have this society that speakes so much about love but where different opinions in small matters make fights, and no marriage endures.
@@marcotuliomacedobicalhomar8320 haha two Marko’s talking to each other, but anyway thank you for the reply. So the thing is that many religions mostly agree on who God is. Naturally not everyone but in general terms this can be concluded and actually has been in researches. I mean generally, the creator, the source, father, mother, lord and so on. Many ways to say who he is, and it actually doesn’t matter what name we call him. The point is that God is like a parent. We can always get into details, but there are a lot of similarities and instead of focusing always on the differences maybe just maybe would be good to examine sometimes what are the same things. Now of course the things you mentioned about churches is true and i don’t mean that we have to let go of values and you have very well pointed out that’s exactly what liberal churches do and sometimes looking at them is crazy how far they went with some stuff. However I don’t mean to be rude or impolite, but the christian churches had 2000 years to unite the world. Bring us closer to God right? Well, in today’s world it’s not that easy to find anyone my age (19) who truly is religious not even mentioning catholic. And i may ask as well that what about other religions? Islam or judaism? Do you think the Catholic church can unite them as well? I know the video only mentions christians, but i suppose all people are important right? And so this institution called church is very deeply ingrained in other people as well. Judaism is even older right? So if they say the same then who will make this better world? You see this is the problem, church is not the goal, it’s the tool. There has to be a solution for things and i don’t mean in a happy let’s save the world yaaay manner but to actually make a place that is growing into a better future, with God. What do we need to make that change, what are we waiting for? The catholic church? Well it had plenty of time. I guess something else, but I am sure not a tool is needed but the person who uses it. Thanks tho this is a great topic and I love to share with people about this.
As a presbyterian with a Catholic girlfriend I agree, we should all look at each other with respect and focus on the fact that we all worship Jesus Christ, and while yes, I think I as a presbyterian, the way I practice my faith is the correct way, I still think that Catholic, Orthodox, and other Protestant denominations do that are really cool. For example I think that the fact that Catholics confess their sins to a priest is pretty cool, but I think a better way would be confessing your sins to your friend, this way you could be helped if you stumble However, I think that Catholic churches look absolutely stunning, and it's amazing that they kept their traditions so well preserved and all but on the other hand I actually think that in some aspects it would be nice to adapt, but hey, this is just my opinion. I also think this won't happen, will some denominations re join the catholic church? Probably, but there are some more stubborn ones that will probably say no without a second thought. I think if a Protestant pastor goes to a Catholic or Orthodox church he should be able to participate in Communion and also the other way around, because at the end of the day we are all brothers in our Lord Jesus Christ:))
Read Rome sweet home by Scott Hahn. He converted after being an extremely successful Presbyterian pastor out of the gate. He chose to follow his Lords calling and not the comfort of his position, and I believe his wife didn’t convert for 7 more years
I can respect what you are saying, I find it quite admirable. I do have to point out that a non Catholic or anyone, for that matter, receiving the Holy Eucharist without discerning that it is truly Jesus, brings condemnation upon themselves, and commits sacrilege. I think you have a good sentiment by recommending us to break bread with protestants, but I don't really understand what you are getting at. Are you suggesting that we pretend to emulate communion with them? I hope you are not suggesting that because that would be insulting and sacrilegious to God. As it is, we are not allowed to go to another faith community and take part in their symbolism supper, it is sacrilege as we have the true presence. As for the pope, well, he appears to be turning the Church into something other than Catholic. Maybe he will make the Church all ready for them to come on in and faithful Catholics can head underground.
non-Catholics and Catholics not in the state of grace should not receive Holy Communion. When I say we should break bread with Protestants I meant we should literally have them over to our house for dinner.
What we agree on is great, but what we disagree on is too big for us all to ever unite. Some churches allow gay marriage and most still don't. The two beliefs must divorce from one another. And this is just one example.
Romans 16:16 " The Churches of Christ salute you". Gal 1:22 " to the Churches of Christ in Judea.." I can read about the Churches of Christ, yet I cannot read about the Catholic Church by name or practice. Next in 1Cor 1:12 Paul says, " What I mean is that each one of you says, " I belong to Paul", or " I belong to to Apollos" or " I belong to Cephas" or " I belong to Christ"? IS CHRIST DIVIDED? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?". So, was Paul, Apollos, Cephas crucified for you? No, they were not. Were you baptized into their names? No, you were not, so you do not belong to them, so why do you say you belong to them? Now what about Christ? Yes he died for you and yes you were baptized into his name, so you BELONG TO JESUS, NOT SOME MAN. So, you should wear his name. Yet, look at the names on the Catholic Churches, " Guadalupe Catholic Church", "Immaculate Heart of Mary Catholic Church", "All Saint Catholic Church", " St. Patrick Catholic Church", St. Andrew Catholic Church, St Thomas Catholic Church, etc....Did St Patrick die for you? Were you baptized into his name? what about St Andrew? Mary? etc.....IS CHRIST DIVIDED? apparently so in the Catholic Church
What if Catholicism dropped 95 false doctrines and returned to Orthodox view of the Bible? Any true Christian Church does not have many members. Cults and Heresy's grow.
Jesus build his church on the rock of Peter john 1:47. Mathew 16:17. If Jesus appointed Peter to feed, take care and feed his sheep. I follow Jesus' word and do thusly
@@James-fk2ki And Jesus told us not to imitate the kings of the nations who lord it over them and call themselves benefactors. Luke 22:24+ So you idea of salvation by submission to a Roman pontiff is heretic. Don't worry about our Rock. The eastern Church was establish by saint Peter in Antioch before he set foot in Rome and our Patriarch of Antioch and all the East is a legitimate successor of saint Peter.
Here's how you get unity. Accept that the Catholic Church is the one who left, that the Pope only has power due to forgeries and a power grab, and that your Pope has no authority over any other Bishop in the Church. Then they will probably let you back in communion.
Then please explain why ALL Bible believing people receive their rule of faith, the Bible, from her, the Bride of Christ… History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, - the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, - the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, - not only did they not agree but their individual lists of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time, growing in numbers of hundreds of “inspired” NT writings. Therefore, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved it by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself?
Jesus is the only way; how can you unify the body of Christ when it is already unified? People try to make the kingdom of heaven theirs when in reality it is God's. Sure, we are shared in the work of our faith and the labor of our love, but we cannot say, this is ours, is that not what the serpent told eve and she saw and took? I don't know if any of this makes much sense to me. Anyone want to change my thoughts? And no, I am not catholic, I just read the Word of God and love others.
Jesus is the only way, and he left us his church before the word was even written or compiled. Christian’s should be unified in worship, and most Christian denominations really never worship God, a sermon and a praise band isn’t worship. The church should be unified under the see of Peter as or Lord intended, so I see what you’re saying but going our own way and interpreting for ourselves is contrary to my Lords intention
Catholic church is not Christian. How then can it unify christian churches? The bible says that Jesus will pick His Church from all over the world. He will not look at church buildings, but He will look at individuals who love, trust and obey Him.
Well, that pretty much excludes YOU and others like you. It's interesting how many Protestants believe they're the only real Christians when they've splintered into an estimated 41,000 denominations with different doctrines, embrace the word of Reformers not the Word of God, and view anyone not in their groupthink as the enemy. Suggest finding the real God and Jesus before it's too late.
Aka "just become roman catholic" Literally just says accept our doctrine, thats all this says. But most of them are in accurate. 1. Prots are part of the universe catholic church. 2. The papcy was a later tradition. Not instituted by Christ. 3. The RC view of the Lords Supper is not correct. 4. Protestantism just went back to the original practices of the church. It didnt just pop up out of nowhere 1500 years later. It corrected the numerous issues that blatantly contradict scripture.
Dear Roman Catholic brothers, we don't feel the same. You left the Church and did another thing you call the Church but is basically a political party with one single rule : Submit to the Roman Pontiff. Your invitation to join the party is not interesting because we are already the one saint apostolic catholic Church. There is only one way to be united as a Church : it's to be orthodox. Other forms of union are temporal and not spiritual and they are not our goal but a deception. As long as you continue to profess heterodox teachings such as salvation by submission to the Roman Pontiff you will cast yourself out of the real catholic Church and call for unity in vain. Read Luke 22:24+ With love. Kyrie eleison IC XC NI KA
Wow, bro, I gotta say- awesome video. Indeed, at the end, you put into words exactly what I myself have been thinking lately. To give some context- I am a recent convert to Catholicism (in fact, I haven't even had my confirmation yet- it's coming up- but I already consider myself Catholic in mindset and practice). Anyway, I was already a strong Christian (I was raised Protestant)- and one of the main things (perhaps THE number one thing) that brought me to Catholicism was reading about what the early Church fathers (e.g. St. Ignatius of Antioch) wrote about the Eucharist. It led me to an in-depth reading and exegesis of John 6 (the "Bread of Life Discourse") and from there I was like "whoa! why have I never studied this before?!" And then, as you can imagine, it led me to start questioning everything else that I thought I knew about what it means to be Christian. It was inevitable that all this inspired me to become Catholic- and I don't mean thinking something like "ok, yeah, maybe I'll consider..." NO- I KNEW I HAD TO BECOME CATHOLIC! I started devouring information- reading articles, re-reading scripture in a new light, watching videos by priests, bishops, Catholic theologians, etc. and I have not stopped since- I am continuously learning (hence me stumbling upon your video here). Anyway- I completely agree with you- I honestly feel that any person who claims to be Christian could not reasonably deny transubstantiation/real presence after having taken the effort to learn about what the Bible says and what the original Christians believed. Truly, the Eucharist is something which has become a fascination for me. I have even written my own informal interpretation of the Bread of Life Discourse which I give to my Protestant family and friends if I sense that they are open to learning about it (based on professional exegeses combined with my own self-study). I have already inspired my wife (who was against it at first) to follow my decision, and I have seriously mentally-challenged my mother (who is a hard-core Baptist) and a couple of my Protestant friends. You and I don't know each other, but if you ever want to do some kind of collaboration or something, please do contact me- I am 100% serious. Peace and Blessings!
So wonderful to read your story! I can't tell you how many times I have busted my brain trying to explain the early church fathers and John 6 to protestants, but they just won't have it. They do all kinds of backflips trying to give their pastors explanations to refute Jn 6. You get it!!! Welcome to the faith. Oh and don't stop reading, because, odds are you won't get it from the pulpit. Just saying.
@@kathleenhamilton7608 Thank you! Yes- I definitely get it. Indeed, I consider myself very fortunate to possess quite an open mind (I guess that sounds conceited, but I feel that I have demonstrated it in my life enough to support my self-assessment), so I didn't have the prejudice against Catholics (or any other religion) that many people seem to have. I knew that I was a Christian, but I had still studied other religions in the past (e.g. Islam, Buddhism, etc.) simply to know more about them, and I did learn a lot. So, when I started studying the history of Christianity at the beginning of this year and it eventually led me to exploring Catholicism, I simply set aside any preconceptions and made it my goal to just keep learning. Sure, I was confronted with certain ideas that challenged me a bit, but fortunately, I didn't allow those challenges to discourage me from continuing to find out more and more. I honestly think that all Christians would be Catholic if they simply followed this example- taking the time to look into things and to discover new information without prejudice- in doing so, I think it would be hard to not arrive at wanting to return to the original church established by Christ. I believe "the unknown" and "the different" simply cause people to be uncomfortable, so they just reject it in order to avoid the discomfort. Peace and blessings!
This is exactly what I mentioned in JD Catholic engage channel.
To not engage non Catholics if they are spewing hate insults sarcasm because that type of engagement will not make any progress and will end up wasting your time and casting your pearls before the swine.
To only engage non Catholics who are interested in sincere discussions about Catholicism and help them better understand our Catholic beliefs.
But I must say that in most Protestant comments they are the ones who straw man us with insults and blasphemous statements. We Catholics have to be the true Christian and respond with love and scripture to those mean types.
St Matthew 7:6
woah, ive never seen a vertical video this long. dope work!
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I’m praying that Francis Chan comes home to the Catholic Church! ❤
Thank you! I watched this same video on instagram a little while ago and I’ve wanted to share it, but sometimes instagram is not the most convenient way to share or present. This just came across my recommended today and I’m stoked!
Look up Eucharistic Miracles and see where the Eucharist actually turns to flesh and blood.
The Church of Christ was called universal (cathokus in the translation), His bride was made to be announced to every nation (Apostolic), alongside with the pardon of the sins which leaves to death (1Jo 5.16,17), also leaving the fraction of the bread that is the bread of life, Jesus himself in Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity (1 Corintians 11:18-34) already remarked as words of life by Jesus (John 6:48-53).
The denominational thing begun with the Oriental Schism at 1054, saddly, with 2 positions, those who stayed with the community of Rome which had the bishop of Rome, the Pope, and the christians from the east, that claimed "ortodoxy", being schismatic as the went away from the Pope. During the second millenium, many ortodoxes community came back in unity with Roman community, even with different rites, but still doing the sacraments (pardon of the sins, baptism, eucharisty).
The protestantism was a break-up from the sacraments, including Eucharisty. You still can contemplate God directly, not in a spiritual or symbolical way, but directly towards His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity, inside the temples whenever a eucharistic rite is done, like it was already done in the beguining and all the first millenium. Now this was ceased by Luther that negated God in this accesible way, limiting only to imagination and voice. Tragic way to lift up again the "veil of the hebrew temple", i cant blame people that born into a protestant family, including many pastors from traditional families, they hadnt access to it.
Its wonderful, go and visit a mass. Its not a social reunion for reading the bible. You indeed read and hear scriptures during mass, but that's not the focus. When the bells rings, everyone must be quiet and respectiful. The priest is nothing but a instrument of God in that specific moment. Like Jesus did during the last supper, like how Apostle Paul told how it is done. "This is my Body... This is the chalice of my Blood..." Only those who had first communion, aknowlegde God there, and is without mortal sin, can receive Our Lord in the Eucharisty. We are all unworthy, that's why we ask Our Lady to prepare our hearts and teach us to worship better her Son. With her pure hands we are better fit to receive God, as she has merit of having no sin, in contrast to us.
She knows best how to Adore her own Son. "Do whatever He says" She said once, and she will be saying everytime, so we can pursue holiness and avoid sin at any cost.
This is really the most heartwarming thing I’ve heard from a Catholic, and as a baptized Protestant in the same body of Christ, I appreciate and look up to the perseverance and dedication of the Roman Catholic tradition, even though I don’t agree with all of its theology, it is extremely hopeful that we will see the entire universal Church to come together and come to the unity of the One, True, Catholic, Apostolic Orthodox Church Jesus Christ designated for us to be in this generation.
We feel that gaping hole of them not being here with us! Amen brother! Love that you called the document a banger, every Magisterial document I have read has been a banger. I love Pope Francis' documents especially. Blessings!
I hope all will unite
The Roman Catholic Church wants all faiths to join together without any repentance or belief in Jesus Christ as the only begotten son of God. Repent and go back to your first love, Jesus Christ our Lord.
yeah apparently atheists and muslims can get to heaven now according to jorge. I believe he said we share the same abrahamic tradition. Go figure.
It would take each and every denomination and Catholic rite and Orthodox expression finding Christian humility and being correctable... which hasn't happened in centuries. It's a steep ask. But as a Protestant, I'd love it. As for the holy eucharist, it's hard to imagine needing to go beyond Jesus' words in explaining it. It's the body and blood, particularly pointing to His new covenant. It's the attempt at justifying it as such that gets us in trouble, just like when trying to explain the trinity. No more needed, receive by faith the real presence of Christ. This is the core Christian view of it. We could easily unite around Jesus' words.
Good video I subscribed. All in for Unity for Christ.
We’ve already been unified through Christ.
Who’s interpretation of Christ?
@@jaggedplanetoh boy here comes another great schism
Yes, but what does that mean? What beliefs about Christ does a person need to have to be considered a Christian, and who decides? You?
@@bradyhayes7911 Thats a good question,
Galatians 3:26-28
“For you are all children of God through faith in Christ Jesus. And all who have been united with Christ in baptism have put on Christ, like putting on new clothes. There is no longer Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male and female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.”
We may argue about the little details of beliefs such as works or faith, or communion, and church heads but at the end of the day, Christ is the only one we need. He is our shelter and refuge, no human can save us, only Jesus can. I think you may agree with me, humans are corrupt and sinful, we can never save ourselves. This world just needs more of Christ, and I firmly believe he is the answer to every problem we face. I hope you find my comment thought provoking, I will be open-minded to your reply as well. Thank you for your time friend.
Galatians 3:26-28
“For you are all children of God through faith in Christ Jesus. And all who have been united with Christ in baptism have put on Christ, like putting on new clothes. There is no longer Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male and female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.”@@jaggedplanet
I wouldn't be surprised if absolute unity in the body of Christ will occur through persecution.
Throughout scripture, we see God refining His people by allowing them to pass through difficult ordeals. On a personal level, God allows us to experience difficulties in the form of discipline, where we're drawn closer to Christ. If Christians are the body of Christ as Paul mentions, going through persecution would be consistent with Christ's life, torture, death and resurrection. Scripture and history both have instances where God allows an oppressor to rise up over His people, only to take what Satan intends for evil and use it for His glory and the good of His children.
Persecution cuts through the red tape of corporate identities, makes personal ambition irrelevant and identifies what our confidence is rooted in. It's a blessing that brings us to the foundation of a reliance on Jesus Christ.
I love this! I’ve always believed one day God would draw all believers back to His one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church. And it’s because on the night before He died Jesus prayed all His disciples would be one so the world would know the Father sent Him. And that prayer will be answered affirmatively… I pray I see it my lifetime.
In the mouth of the Roman Pontiffs "Catholic" just meant "Greeks not welcome".
Always praying for unity!!!! As a prodestant who group up in a latin mass roman catholic church this document blows my mind. This church I group up in is not really accepted as they stick pretty hardily to 1960s Catholic doctrine more or less. I group up hearing the actually oposite about prodestants than this document. Craziness. Always praying for unity! Who knows but God how that will be achieved.
The Lord supper has been practiced by the Lutheran church since the reformation. always we believe in the real presence. Amen God bless our eastern orthdox and west catholic church aswell as the protestant denominations amen.
Correct me if I doctrinally wrong, but the Lutheran Church believes in "consubstantiation". That is the Body of Christ and the bread, and the Blood of Christ and the wine exist together at the exact same time. Further that once the service is ended that the Body of Christ reverts back to bread and the Blood of Christ reverts back to wine.
The Catholic Church believes in "transubstantiation". That is the bread and wine become the _literal_ Body and Blood of Christ. The Body and Blood of Christ, called the "species", still has the appearance of bread and wine, but that is what we call, the "accident" of physical appearance and makeup. I emphasize the bread and wine are permanently converted, by the Priest with consecrated hands, into the _literal_ Body and Blood of Christ. And that "species" persists as long as the "accident" of form exists. Amazingly, about 70% of US Catholics do not believe in the "Real Presence". And that is really a very grave issue that the Catholic Church has to fix ASAP.
As a Plymouth Brethren (not the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church), I appreciate and support the call for ecumenism. I cannot, however, agree with the methodology you suggest towards reunification of the Protestants, Roman Catholics, and Orthodox. While Francis Chan may have changed his views on the metaphysics of the eucharist (communion, Lord's Supper, breaking of bread), to expect the breadth of Christendom to follow suit is a tall order. Even in the event that all Christians agreed on this point, there are many additional points of departure in theology between denominations which hold a great deal of significance to many Christians
Yes, I agree and I am Catholic
Unity means nothing if you aren’t united in the truth.
Catholicism is the truth
@@danieldiaz7050 plenty of evidence that is simply not true. Read your Bible and believe it…
@eatsleepcoderepeat9964 you see what you wanna see I have looked into every argument. I know catholicism is the truth you are biased I researched with no bias. U are blind
@@eatsleepcoderepeat9964 Bruh...I kinda trust the early Church fathers more than you
@@michaelbarry6589 I said read your Bible and believe it?? Not me… problem is when church fathers contradict the apostles themselves and preach a different Gospel
Don't put yourself down saying that you're not competent! The fact that you're researching all of this and wanting to explain this is answer enough to show that you are and want to go after this unity of the Church as a whole under Christ!
immediately subscribed.
Great vid man, God bless you.
You got my follow 👊
What if we followed the Anglican Orinariate formula for all protestant reunions with Rome? hehe "Well I'm off to Pentecostal-Rite Mass. It's my turn to babble the psalm in gibberish"
May I ask why did you say powers of 'Death' rather 'Hell'? 2:54
Hell is the second death. Rev 20:14
@@DANtheMANofSIPA Using it in Creed I get it but here I still don't.
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Honestly this is all very beautiful but the thing is that many churches all around the world say that they know the truth and that’s why everyone has to join them. If this is the approach of the catholic church i don’t know how many people want to unite. Everyone has opinions and beliefs, but i think the point is to genuinely talk to each other. And MOST importantly listen to the other. Everyone can learn from the other.
The thing is that church is a tool. Don’t get me wrong it is an awesome tool that helps people have great experiences (as i had btw) but the point is to get closer to God together. Religions are trying to do this. But it’s time to let go of this thinking that there is one true church. That is not the point, but God and this whole wide world is. Time to let go of the thinking that we know everything cause we are from a certain religion.
Yes there are clear good and bad stuff in this world which we have to separate as humans but the point remains clear. Time to really live with God and love each other.
But, you know, it's hard to talk anything about God if you don't agree well about who God is, and what is His message. Still, on what basis would you say there's no true Church when the Scripture openly points to being one? To be more palatable for the sincerely uninterested Western world? That wouldn't be true, and wouldn't be even effective. Liberal denominations have made similar things and failed, they're dying.
Also, loving each other without a sure basis on truth is but a feeling. Feelings come and go, and then you have this society that speakes so much about love but where different opinions in small matters make fights, and no marriage endures.
@@marcotuliomacedobicalhomar8320 haha two Marko’s talking to each other, but anyway thank you for the reply. So the thing is that many religions mostly agree on who God is. Naturally not everyone but in general terms this can be concluded and actually has been in researches. I mean generally, the creator, the source, father, mother, lord and so on. Many ways to say who he is, and it actually doesn’t matter what name we call him. The point is that God is like a parent. We can always get into details, but there are a lot of similarities and instead of focusing always on the differences maybe just maybe would be good to examine sometimes what are the same things. Now of course the things you mentioned about churches is true and i don’t mean that we have to let go of values and you have very well pointed out that’s exactly what liberal churches do and sometimes looking at them is crazy how far they went with some stuff. However I don’t mean to be rude or impolite, but the christian churches had 2000 years to unite the world. Bring us closer to God right? Well, in today’s world it’s not that easy to find anyone my age (19) who truly is religious not even mentioning catholic. And i may ask as well that what about other religions? Islam or judaism? Do you think the Catholic church can unite them as well? I know the video only mentions christians, but i suppose all people are important right? And so this institution called church is very deeply ingrained in other people as well. Judaism is even older right? So if they say the same then who will make this better world? You see this is the problem, church is not the goal, it’s the tool. There has to be a solution for things and i don’t mean in a happy let’s save the world yaaay manner but to actually make a place that is growing into a better future, with God. What do we need to make that change, what are we waiting for? The catholic church? Well it had plenty of time. I guess something else, but I am sure not a tool is needed but the person who uses it.
Thanks tho this is a great topic and I love to share with people about this.
As a presbyterian with a Catholic girlfriend I agree, we should all look at each other with respect and focus on the fact that we all worship Jesus Christ, and while yes, I think I as a presbyterian, the way I practice my faith is the correct way, I still think that Catholic, Orthodox, and other Protestant denominations do that are really cool.
For example I think that the fact that Catholics confess their sins to a priest is pretty cool, but I think a better way would be confessing your sins to your friend, this way you could be helped if you stumble
However, I think that Catholic churches look absolutely stunning, and it's amazing that they kept their traditions so well preserved and all but on the other hand I actually think that in some aspects it would be nice to adapt, but hey, this is just my opinion.
I also think this won't happen, will some denominations re join the catholic church? Probably, but there are some more stubborn ones that will probably say no without a second thought.
I think if a Protestant pastor goes to a Catholic or Orthodox church he should be able to participate in Communion and also the other way around, because at the end of the day we are all brothers in our Lord Jesus Christ:))
Read Rome sweet home by Scott Hahn. He converted after being an extremely successful Presbyterian pastor out of the gate. He chose to follow his Lords calling and not the comfort of his position, and I believe his wife didn’t convert for 7 more years
Orthodoxy is not a denomination. It's the trunk. You are the branches.
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I can respect what you are saying, I find it quite admirable. I do have to point out that a non Catholic or anyone, for that matter, receiving the Holy Eucharist without discerning that it is truly Jesus, brings condemnation upon themselves, and commits sacrilege. I think you have a good sentiment by recommending us to break bread with protestants, but I don't really understand what you are getting at. Are you suggesting that we pretend to emulate communion with them? I hope you are not suggesting that because that would be insulting and sacrilegious to God. As it is, we are not allowed to go to another faith community and take part in their symbolism supper, it is sacrilege as we have the true presence. As for the pope, well, he appears to be turning the Church into something other than Catholic. Maybe he will make the Church all ready for them to come on in and faithful Catholics can head underground.
non-Catholics and Catholics not in the state of grace should not receive Holy Communion. When I say we should break bread with Protestants I meant we should literally have them over to our house for dinner.
What we agree on is great, but what we disagree on is too big for us all to ever unite. Some churches allow gay marriage and most still don't. The two beliefs must divorce from one another. And this is just one example.
And yet, sadly, there are Catholic bishops that are allowing gay marriage!??
Babylon is falling
united in the LGBTQ and islam Beautiful
Romans 16:16 " The Churches of Christ salute you". Gal 1:22 " to the Churches of Christ in Judea.." I can read about the Churches of Christ, yet I cannot read about the Catholic Church by name or practice. Next in 1Cor 1:12 Paul says, " What I mean is that each one of you says, " I belong to Paul", or " I belong to to Apollos" or " I belong to Cephas" or " I belong to Christ"? IS CHRIST DIVIDED? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?".
So, was Paul, Apollos, Cephas crucified for you? No, they were not. Were you baptized into their names? No, you were not, so you do not belong to them, so why do you say you belong to them? Now what about Christ? Yes he died for you and yes you were baptized into his name, so you BELONG TO JESUS, NOT SOME MAN. So, you should wear his name. Yet, look at the names on the Catholic Churches, " Guadalupe Catholic Church", "Immaculate Heart of Mary Catholic Church", "All Saint Catholic Church", " St. Patrick Catholic Church", St. Andrew Catholic Church, St Thomas Catholic Church, etc....Did St Patrick die for you? Were you baptized into his name? what about St Andrew? Mary? etc.....IS CHRIST DIVIDED? apparently so in the Catholic Church
That’s not what Matthew 16 says. “Church is a made up word.”
What if Catholicism dropped 95 false doctrines and returned to Orthodox view of the Bible? Any true Christian Church does not have many members. Cults and Heresy's grow.
Catholics must come back to the Eastern Church. I shall not live under the papacy.
Too bad the eastern churches came in communion in rome so It should be the other way around
So then you “shall” live incorrectly
Jesus build his church on the rock of Peter john 1:47. Mathew 16:17. If Jesus appointed Peter to feed, take care and feed his sheep. I follow Jesus' word and do thusly
@@James-fk2ki And Jesus told us not to imitate the kings of the nations who lord it over them and call themselves benefactors. Luke 22:24+ So you idea of salvation by submission to a Roman pontiff is heretic.
Don't worry about our Rock. The eastern Church was establish by saint Peter in Antioch before he set foot in Rome and our Patriarch of Antioch and all the East is a legitimate successor of saint Peter.
You mean Greek Catholics that are Eastern Churches, that came back to Rome?
Here's how you get unity. Accept that the Catholic Church is the one who left, that the Pope only has power due to forgeries and a power grab, and that your Pope has no authority over any other Bishop in the Church. Then they will probably let you back in communion.
Roman Catholicism is heresy. 🙏🏻
It's a different gospel.
Then please explain why ALL Bible believing people receive their rule of faith, the Bible, from her, the Bride of Christ…
History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, - the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, - the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, - not only did they not agree but their individual lists of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time, growing in numbers of hundreds of “inspired” NT writings.
Therefore, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved it by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself?
Jesus is the only way; how can you unify the body of Christ when it is already unified? People try to make the kingdom of heaven theirs when in reality it is God's. Sure, we are shared in the work of our faith and the labor of our love, but we cannot say, this is ours, is that not what the serpent told eve and she saw and took? I don't know if any of this makes much sense to me. Anyone want to change my thoughts? And no, I am not catholic, I just read the Word of God and love others.
Jesus is the only way, and he left us his church before the word was even written or compiled. Christian’s should be unified in worship, and most Christian denominations really never worship God, a sermon and a praise band isn’t worship. The church should be unified under the see of Peter as or Lord intended, so I see what you’re saying but going our own way and interpreting for ourselves is contrary to my Lords intention
Catholic church is not Christian. How then can it unify christian churches? The bible says that Jesus will pick His Church from all over the world. He will not look at church buildings, but He will look at individuals who love, trust and obey Him.
Well, that pretty much excludes YOU and others like you. It's interesting how many Protestants believe they're the only real Christians when they've splintered into an estimated 41,000 denominations with different doctrines, embrace the word of Reformers not the Word of God, and view anyone not in their groupthink as the enemy. Suggest finding the real God and Jesus before it's too late.
Thinking the papacy will unite us all is pretty dumb, as if orthodox would stoop so low to follow a gay pope
Aka "just become roman catholic"
Literally just says accept our doctrine, thats all this says. But most of them are in accurate.
1. Prots are part of the universe catholic church.
2. The papcy was a later tradition. Not instituted by Christ.
3. The RC view of the Lords Supper is not correct.
4. Protestantism just went back to the original practices of the church. It didnt just pop up out of nowhere 1500 years later. It corrected the numerous issues that blatantly contradict scripture.
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Dear Roman Catholic brothers, we don't feel the same. You left the Church and did another thing you call the Church but is basically a political party with one single rule : Submit to the Roman Pontiff. Your invitation to join the party is not interesting because we are already the one saint apostolic catholic Church. There is only one way to be united as a Church : it's to be orthodox. Other forms of union are temporal and not spiritual and they are not our goal but a deception. As long as you continue to profess heterodox teachings such as salvation by submission to the Roman Pontiff you will cast yourself out of the real catholic Church and call for unity in vain. Read Luke 22:24+
With love.
Kyrie eleison
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leave the little boys alone
Orthodoxy is the only way.
Amen
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