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Tudor Black Bay vs. Omega Seamaster 300M
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- Опубликовано: 29 апр 2024
- Tudor Black Bay 41
M7941A1A0NU-0003
40.5mm case
13.6mm thick
49.3mm lug to lug
21mm lug width
Cal. MT5602-U w/ 70 hours power reserve
200m water resistance
164.2 grams
$4,425
Omega Seamaster 300M
210.32.42.20.03.001
42mm case
13.8mm thick
49.5mm lug to lug
20mm lug width
Cal. 8800 w/ 55 hours power reserve
300m water resistance
194.9 grams
$5,900
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They both look great... The Omega exudes luxury, the Tudor shows unobtrusive class. Two lovely watches!!
Omega needs to update the bracelet on that thing.
bring back their BOR
They need to update the whole thing, especially the hands. back to 2254.50 hands would be awesome.
People. Why should they. Those hands and the bracelet are Part of the design. So is the helium escape valve. You want a different watch. Buy something else then:)
I’ve owned both and I’m a fan of both.
Still have the black bays and wear them the most.
They both look fantastic!
Omega is defiantly in a different class, I just wish they would trim the Seamaster down just by a little 😁 Great comparison by the way 👍
I mean it’s shiny…
Yes just a millimetre or two would be perfect
@@Alexander-xq1gr agreed 😁
Helium value, bezel action, thickness, bracelet, date…the 300 needs a refresh.
😢@@Alexander-xq1gr
Thanks for reading my mind with this comparison
Great looking watches, Brent! Excellent run-down.
Hi Brad, they're both great watches and both have design features that grate with some people. The Omega is significantly more expensive and it shows.
I really like Tudors but I wouldn't be able to resist this Omega, particularly in green. 🙂
Hoping Tudor release a blue dial blue bezel version later this year.
the omega is great but i wish if it was a little smaller
The BB has a more classy, understated vintage vibe. The SM is a caricature version of the Submariner.
Hahaha the Tudor is the caricature of the sub! It's a blatant copycat hahaha.
What are u smoking! Hahaha.... Don't give me the bs they Belong to the same company... Bec all others don't do copy paste like Tudor!😂😂😂
Jlc doesn't look anything like Cartier or ALS., omega doesn't look anything like Blancpain or breguet ...
Tudor is a shameless cheap copy of Rolex period!😂
Watching as i am wearing my omega 300m today hehe. I prefer the omega because i like having date complication and ceramic bezel inserts. Im also not a fan of the tudor blunt hour hand. Thanks for the review
Thanks for viewing and continue enjoying yours!
Both watches are very nice 👍
Seamaster. But I'd prefer white or blue to black.
The Omega is great, but I hate the HEV and skeleton hands. For me, the Tudor on 5-link is a wonderful daily that can be dressed up or down.
Easy win for Tudor for me. The AR coating on both sides of the crystal on Omega is absolute no go if you don't want to buy overpriced scratch magnet. Higher WR and exhibition case back and 2color lume isn't enough to beat the nearly perfect package which this BB is.
Scratch magnet!? Suuuure 🤣
@@SB-Kiwiall watches get scratches
@@jackm1310 noooo. Really??
The double AR coating works a treat and mine has never scratched, I wear it all the time. I have a burgundy BB, it is a great runner but it is nowhere near the quality of the omega. All those advantages that you stated about the SMP are correct and make it easily better than the BB. The only thing the BB wins is the bezel (although it feels cheaper and more flimsy) and the crown. That’s all. The AR coating isn’t as good. Also, when you wind the watch it takes a while for it to kick in, the Omega is instant. I’m uncertain about the technical reasons for that and if there is one (my Zenith also has a delay) but it’s annoying from a user perspective. I also miss having a date window on the BB but do appreciate the clean look and not having to set the date when I set the time. But my SMP feels so much better in absolutely every way imaginable.
Very good review. The Omega is probably a finer timepiece but I hate their bracelet and the helium escape thing 😂. Mind you I detest those Tudor faux rivets as most people seem to also. Will Tudor ever learn ! Anyway keep up the great work 👏
Yep, the “wart” on the side of the Omega and the faux rivets on the Tudor make both way less desirable. However, the 5 link bracelet option on the Tudor makes for a very nice watch.
@@tonyhalpin1320 hi. I totally agree, the new Tudor jubilee bracelet is a game changer. Probably why I got an uncle seiko jubilee bracelet for my Tudor gmt, and their nato strap for my panda chrono. Regards from Northern Ireland ☘️
Love the Seamaster. Both are great watches, but Omega is one of my favorite brands, hence why I have 5
Wow 5 Seamasters! You are a fan.
@@michaelriera6277 5 Omega, not all Seamasters lol
omega for shure. different class!
tudor need to make some crown guard and ceramic bezel i definitely would buy em
Omega!! They seem to be in different classes. If the Tudor had a display case back it would help...I'm a date function freak so that plays into it too.
I'll never understand how a open case back is that big a deal especially on a dive watch that kinda looks wrong
@@lonewolfemcquade8133it’s nice to see and appreciate a mechanical movement. I love having the display case back on my SMP, my BB I never look at the back as I have no reason to. I like being able to see a mechanical movement and on the SMP it doesn’t look wrong at all, it’s like a porthole into its heart and the movement is fairly well finished.
@@silvershadowjshlook at the Tudor 925. The movement is nothing special honestly it looks boring. Good thing they keep the case back.
It is funny how some Omega's fanboys bring to the conversation the word prestige in this comparison. However, they hate that word when the comparison is with Rolex 🙂. With that being said, both watches are beautiful. I prefer the Tudor because it is not that common. However, I would take a 300M in ceramic or Titanium any day. That is the model that I own. 43.5mm ceramic/ Titanium no date.
Omega seamaster need a update on their bracelet, but they got something other watches missing. Half-links! Helps alot for us inbetween wrist size
Excellent point
Both excellent watches, but the 300m is a touch nicer
Tudor black bay 41mm 2024
One of the most beautiful watches that money can buy
The shield protects The Crown
Brad
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Absolutely Brilliant
The Omega is a better piece in all categories, objectively. The difference IMO is the bling. Bought and flipped the black 300m, very blingy watch. The Tudor is more subdued IRL.
That would be subjective.....The bracelet on the seamaster SUCKS.
@hittingreens5646 That is also subjective. Many like the Diver 300M bracelet.
If you dont like blingy watches then the seamaster is worse
I have both I like the seamaster better but the tudor is more comfortable to wear
I own both brands and have the Diver and a BB58. The Omega is just on another level, but the price also reflects this. Stat for stat, the Omega is better on paper and the dial is a 10 vs a basically bland black dial on the Tudor. The Tudor is a beautiful basic heritage designed watch and I would own both easily, but if only one, the Diver 300 all day long.
Yeah some of the comments seem to be hating on the wave dial. It’s really nicely executed and subtle and I love it, brings a whole feel to the watch. As you’ve said, the BB dial is boring in comparison and has no personality. I own these watches, the Omega wins on every level, which is why it really would be better pitched against a Submariner.
This is a great comparison-those two watches are close in so many ways! I like the Omega's see-through caseback and ceramic bezel, but the rest considered, including the less busy dial, I would opt for the Tudor, which stays truer to the "tool" character of a dive watch.
Agreed, dive watches were designed to be tools not distracting shiny jewellery pieces, but to each their own!
OMEGA nothing else! ❤❤❤
Fantastic content. The omega knocks it out the park in this one. I just wish they made it 38-40mm and tapered the bracelet
So true. I have a BB58 went first for the Seamaster but found the bracelet so heavy and uncomfortable. Its a real shame because the watch is beautiful.
@@michaelriera6277 I’m thinking of going from the BB58 to a seamaster.. do you think it’s too much of a size difference?
The ceramic seamaster is ugly imo, the classic fine wave dial version is where its at (imo)
Just get a 2254.50 Seamaster to get a better bracelet, thinner watch, and lume for days.
I have both. Tudor on the 5 link and the Seamaster white dial on the steal bracelet, OEM rubber strap and OEM NATO. To be honest I like the both the same.
Brad, remember me? We talked in January about monochrome possibly being released at watches and wonders. You couldn’t put me on the “list” at the time 😁.
Omega. The Tudor has hype going for it at the moment but the Seamaster is a cut above
Hype didn't do anything for Tudor. 3 yrs the paid RUclipsrs hyped and puffed Tudor... you'd get the impression they're number 2 overall!
But nope! It's been dropping since... it's now at number 17 ...wayyy down there.
Longines, Tudor's competitor is running circles around it.
Morgan Stanley figures.
Hello Brad , been watching your reviews for awhile now.. could you recommend a good online shop to purchase from. Really interested in the Omega Diver 300
Of course, we'd be happy to ship and work with you! Email brad@brentlmiller.com.
I prefer the Tudor. It strongly resembles a Submariner for less than half the price. The Seamaster has four issues that would keep me from buying it: the HEV "wart", the dated, non-tapering bracelet, the weight and the bezel action. I do like the ceramic dial of the Omega, but not enough to buy one.
Need a date and ceramic bezel for a daily, so easy choice.
Ceramic is less suited to daily due to risk of cracking
@@jackm1310but less prone to scratches. It’s like saying a mineral crystal is superior to sapphire.
I own Tudor and Omega watches. Although the Tudor is nice it definitely can’t compete with Omega in terms of design language, built quality and finesse as well as the heritage. Tudor always been and will be a copy cat brand from it’s big brother. Nevertheless I love my BB54 for what it is.
Omega sucks. Ugly
Only in the BB range in other ranges they are far more unique and adventurous than Rolex has been in the last few decades at least.
That is why I don’t have a Tudor, well said
Seamaster but on rubber.
I prefer the Submariner, rather than an expensive homage. The omega is beautifully finished and has its own design language, just not a fan of unnecessary helium escape valve and skeleton hands making it hard to tell time on some colourways( my no time to die for instance) Makes more sense to compare Tudor with Pagini etc who copy all of their designs too. I think it’s time for a refresh of Omega.
That’s like saying VW copies Audi…
Seamaster all day. Classic brand, design, and far more prestige and service to boot. I love my BB Chrono, but it ain't my Omegas.
I love my Tudor but Omega takes it.
Omega 300m with planet ocean hands and no escape valve on rubber 👌
PO comparison coming....
Omega is still in a different league from my view. Unique design and the finishing seems to be better but I might be biased. The bezel action on the Tudor is great though. Just feels a bit too much like a Sub clone for me
The Tudor looks far thicker due to its plain slab sided design , i dont mind but it could put some people off.
The Omega is fantastic, but the bracelet really lets it down.
Omega bracelets are an absolute joke. I assume at Omega they wear Rolex, because I can't explain this ignorance any other way. Can't wear my Seamaster on the ugly uncomfortable steel bracelet.
Omega is better by a mile… except for the bracelet… and the HEV… and the case size… oops
If they could only get those things right because it is a nice looking watch.
Omega is almost as heavy as my yellow gold Day-Date 40!😅
I have both. The omega is the better watch and better than a sub.
delusional
I would agree the omega is better than the Rolex, but everyone is brainwashed when it comes to Rolex. I have had numerous Omegas ,Rolex,longines,Tudor. The only brand I own at the minute is omega . I owned a Pepsi gmt and explorer 1 and 2 and sold all 3 to stick with omega
Nope I owned a Seamaster and still own two Rolex Submariners and at least Rolex are 100p Swiss made. Unlike Omega that uses parts from China. The Swatch group has been outsourcing from China for years. Every thing was better on the Submariners, accuracy bracelet and bezel action. The bezel action on the Seamaster was horrible. Also the rotor on the Submariner's are silent and silky smooth.
That’s one way to justify never getting the call 😂
I have owned the BB, the 300M, and the Submariner. The Tudor and the Omega are long gone. I can get a Seamaster and the BB heavily discounted at any time.
what's with all youtubers comparing Tudor with Omegas, and leaving out the hydroconquest/legend diver... started about a year ago.
Unfortunately we don't carry Longines. Agree, they are a great comparison.
As you know, I own the Omega in blue. This new Tudor is a winner. How about both?
Perfect response. Agreed!
Agreed, but the BB41 with the 5-link bracelet
Both is always the right answer!
I saw it at a Tudor AD in NJ with the 5 link and it totally elevates the look of the watch.
Obviously, Tudor is of better quality. The bezel action is always a good point of comparison to check if a manufacturer pushes quality to the maximum. The Tudor one is just fantastic. 10 out of 10. The Omega one is just pathetic. Obviously, bracelet-wise, it’s day and night. The Omega bracelet is almost sharp and it is wide, thick and without refinement while the Tudor one is just fantastic.
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Not even close . Omega looks such more refined
Except for bracelet and bezel action
@@jackm1310the bezel on the BB has better grip but feels a lot cheaper. Which makes sense as the SMP has 120 clicks compared to 60. I like the BB bracelet and do find it comfortable but the finishing on the Omega bracelet is better and I feels more premium. I’m not sure on the hate with it but my SMP is a rubber strap so haven’t worn the bracelet extensively. The SMP bracelet also has a diver extension. I do prefer the grip on my BB’s crown though. But the watch feels so much cheaper (which it is).
There is nothing refined about that lump of steel. its such in the 90s.
Prefer the Tudor here.
Omega is so overdue for an upgrade. Don't get me wrong, great piece for 5 or 5 k Canadian, but they are asking too much if they don't plan on doing anything to improve the watch.
Not really a fair comparison. The black bay is just an average to good watch. The 300 feels special everytime you put it on. One of the very best watches for daily wear ever.
300 is too distracting for some environments, too much of a look at me watch imo
Tudor is taking aim at Omega
That wave dial is just genius. If the Tudor had a ceramic insert, it could compete. But for what it is, Tudor is the best for bang for buck. The omega is it £7000, £8000. Tudor makes the customer think because there is great value. For the money as said before
The omega is not 7-8k, it’s 5.6k, you’re way off. Also, you do know that low end brands have ceramic bezels, they aren’t expensive to produce.
@mema4922 OK, forgive me, I wasn't absolutely sure how much the omega cost. it's a beauty. I don't doubt you on the cost to produce ceramic bezels either, I know that Tudor does have matt ceramic bezels on their blue pelagos and obviously their bb ceramic But as I said, Tudor watches for the money great value
@@marlonr391 I see what you’re saying, I’d prefer ceramic too. However, I guess the aluminium bezel is a stylistic choice as it will patina over time enhancing the Tudors vintage look.
My Submariner 14060m bezel looks great and it's over 21 years old. I really don't know what you do to your bezels that you " Have to have ceramic ". At least aluminum bezels age nicely. Unlike with ceramic every thing ages but the bezel looks brand new. It just doesn't look right. I rather the watch age as a whole
@lonewolfemcquade8133
I totally agree in regards to aluminium inserts, I first noticed when I looked at images of aluminium inserts from the 60's-70s of Rolex watches and the inserts look great for the age of the watch, the way some people talk, like its going to be battered within 4yrs. I own the 58 blue I brought it new in 2020 it looks like new, no concerns at all.
As long as the Omega looks trapped in the early 90s with that awful bracelet and clasp, that’s a no from me.
Omega. Not even close.
Omega
I´ve owned an SMP and the bracelet, bezel/bezel action and clasp are really bad for an expensive watch. Don´t mind the heliun escape but it would obviously look better without it.
If you look at the specs of these watches the price of an SMP really is mind boggling (way too expensive), the Tudor offers so much more value for money.
Omega: The bracelet is very ugly.
The Seamaster is timeless
So is the submariner surely
Really ??? I don't thing so. Goofy designs are rarely timeless.
Definitely not. Goofy crap. Everything on that Omega is wrong. The hideous 90’s bracelet, waves on the dial and the ugly “fat” font on the bezel. Cherry on top is the tit nipple and those ugly skeleton hands against the waves… need to look carefully to see the time…. Just a hideous design overall, I could never and will never get the hype and why one would want to own something this goofy, and simply ugly. NOT timeless at all.
Omega, the Sub is a more accurate comparison for quality sake.
Perhaps compare the Tudor to its counterpart in the Swatch group (Longines) next time!
If we carried Longines we certainly would.
I would get the tudor even if the seamaster was the same price, the ceramic 300m was a step backwards in a lot of ways
Seamaster is too puffy. It’s past time for a redesign.
Omega by 6 lengths especially on a strap.
Tudor = Better:
1) bracelet and adjustment
2) no HEV
3) power reserve
4) price
5) legibility
Omega = Better:
1) finishing
2) lume (bi-color)
3) date complication
4) see-through case-back
5) ceramic bezel
Even on:
1) movement (I get the co-axial argument, but come on)
Despite the more "brutalistic" finishing / design, the Tudor is a clear winner imo. Awesome comparison
Agree, but I wouldn't classify ceramic bezel and date function as better.
@@bogarbill6331 Yah, I balked a bit at mentioning the date and though imo I'd prefer a ceramic bezel on the Tudor, it's more of an aesthetic issue in the end
Hahaha winner on what? Hahahahahah ha ha I mean don't be a joke hahahha
Wow, your comment added so much to the discussion. Thank you.
@@impoautosguatemala9847 Where's the lie in the list? Is it "heritage"? Should have I given Omega a win for "heritage"? lol
It's truly amazing what omega has done since the first version of seamaster in 1993..if you think about it - it's the only dive watch in the industry that's Not a direct copy of the submariner,as far as the comparison: it's not even close..the Seamaster is on a completely different league the finishing and materials are the best of the best - rhodium plated hour markers and hands, case finish is much better, open case back, presentation box looks better than a Patek Philip box😂..(but it's true)omega wins for sure!!
Sorry but the Seamaster looks ridiculous by comparrison.
It’s worth mentioning that Tudor T fit clasps gape quite badly when they include a diver’s extension (like this one does) - they stick out away from the wrist and even catch on things. It’s the thing that annoys me most on my P39. SM300 is far more refined. I just wish Omega would put it on a diet.
Not true.
Omega bracelet killing this watch
💯 Some MBA decided they could save a little money buying the same size segments. Terrible.
Could not agree more. It’s thick, heavy, and unrefined. Really lets the watch down.
Omega 💪💪💪
One thing I don’t like about Tudor is that snowflake on the minuted hand!!!
You meant the hour hand.
@@seabiscuit726142 oops, yes
The Seamaster is the better engineered watch but it looks hideous next to the Black Bay. Each has it's qualities and it's flaws. If I was designing the Seamaster, I'd lose the waves on the dial and the HEV. If I was designing the Black Bay, I'd give it a ceramic bezel.
Omega build quality is outstanding as always, But man the 300m is an ugly looking beast, You'll never be seen that on my wrist.
The Tudor is by far the better looking tool watch IMO.
Omega 😋
The seamaster would be a killer watch if it didn't have that massive pimple.
A lot of you probably still wear the MC Hammer pants if you like the design language of the Omega still hahaha.
No question Seamaster! Can’t help but to look at Tudor as an Homage watch company. Guess that’s what i was meant to be.
omega !! Tudor not even close 😅
OMEGA is a another league. They compete with Rolex.
Tudor's competitor is Longines.
Well call me crazy but I got a Longines zulu time cause omega gmts don't look that good 😅.
Personally aquaterras and planet oceans aren't my thing.
The taichi one does look good but not as stunning as the longines imo.
Also picked that over a breitling and tudor.
Longines is a class below tudor. Longines are great, no disrespect, but for some reason it's still below tudor, maybe because rolex carries them.
Frankly I think that’s generous. Longines has heritage and design that put it well above Tudor in everything except price
@@adecentgamer3154yeah that Zulu is 🔥. Tudor has nothing even approaching the style and beauty of that watch. And Omega has never really had a definitive GMT - just never been a featured complication for them. But likewise Longines can’t compete with Omega in the chrono or dive space
@@MarkDanger777but your contradicting yourself in your own comment- Longines is an old guard heritage brand with a history twice that of even Rolex-they are not a cheap-copy version of their bigger brother like Tudor
Omega is still much better in terms of finishing and bracelet. I love the way the light catches the ceramic and resists scratches. It’s a beautiful material particularly in the outdoors. While quite respectable and an improved version of the Black Bay it still lacks the wow factor. Lose the fake rivets on the standard bracelet, improve the finishing and add some ceramic and I’ll have no complaints. It’s nearly there.
Oméga better bracelet ??? 🤡🤡🤡
@@maitrehg Omega bracelets are far better than anything Tudor produces. As someone who wears an Omega everyday and has tried on the newest Tudor watches recently I can assure you of this. Tudor has improved somewhat but they are not in the same tier as Omega. The fake rivets on the Black Bay range are laughable by the way. By all means make up your own mind but I don’t agree with your opinion
@@ianwoollard2063 It's a well-known fact that bracelets are the major weak point of Omega watches. These bracelets made in China lack a lot of refinement. Pure crap. On the opposite, Tudor and Rolex bracelets are known to be the best of the best. Pure perfection.
There is no comparison when you see both these watches in person, I own both. The Omega Seamaster is in a different class altogether, in terms of materials, finishing, build quality and looks.
Tudor is a great watch but it doesn’t look or feel like a luxury watch, the omega is on par with a Rolex Submariner.
Tudor can Never stand alone.😂 It has to mimic Big brother Rolex 😂.
Comedy show
Omega. All. Day. Long.
Both great watches with great specification . Omega needs to improve the bracelet and remove the helium escapement . I would go with the Tudor although Omega is a bit better . The design and aesthetic of the Tudor is a winner
I have both, the Omega is far better, not a bit better. It makes the Tudor feel cheap which, in comparison, it is.
Omega is unique and everyone knows instantly. Tudor is plain jane and is similar to every other dive watch
It’s similar to every other dive watch that’s copied them
You simply threw specs at us. Can you actually compare them against each other some day. Thanks
In the last 8 years I have owned 59 watch models between 400 - 15.5k EURO. These included 5 Omega models (SMP, Speedy etc.). I sold them all because there was always something wrong. On the SMP, the steel bracelet is an absolute joke and the bezel is wobbly. Then I got a Submariner Date, even though I don't like the hype about Rolex. However, this watch is a dream. So if you don't have the money for a sub, the new Tudor models are an option. I stay away from Omega!
Not a good match up .
SMP is in different level
Tudor BB is like a Ferrari with Honda civic engine
If the Ferrari were made of plastic
Omega by a mile
tudor has a better bracelet. Watch itself - Omega is above
omega all day, tudor needs to stop making so many watches with-out a date us-less
For me Tudor ❤ I like the Omega but I think the Tudor is more versatile than the Omega
Tudor all day for me would not buy omega
Stop comparing Omega with Tudor, they are not in the same league, Omega is leaps and bounds above and beyond Tudor
Omega dial and exo caseback are beautiful - but that terrible bracelet. Tudor gets my business.
Not even in the same Leagues. Tudor should be compared to longines.
The Seamaster is executed to a higher level, but falls short due to design. The silly helium escape, double-sided AR coating, and non-tapering bracelet really kill this watch for me. Tudor all day.
One is a submariner homage with an ugly hour hand and the other one just looks silly, buy a doxa if you want a dive watch
Owned a few Tudor’s and a few Omega’s. The Seamaster is in desperate need of a huge upgrade although Omega are in a completely different league to the retro Rolex homage Tudor brand. The less said about Omega’s bezel action the better though 🤦🏻♂️ it’s shocking as are the skeleton hands. That bracelet needs chucking in the bin too. It’s a heavy unrefined piece of 💩👎🏼☹️
So true, the bezel action is the main thing wrong with this watch and a dealbreaker for me
Everything on that Omega is wrong. The hideous 90’s bracelet, waves on the dial and the ugly “fat” font on the bezel. Chuck in some red just to make it more goofy. Ugh. Cherry on top is the tit nipple and those ugly skeleton hands against the waves… need to look carefully to see the time. Just a hideous design, I could never and will never get the hype and why one would own it. Hideous at best