This was a lot of work, but I think it came out well! Still a lot of improvements I hope to make, but let me know if there's some other campaigns you'd like to see covered in this way. If you enjoyed, make sure to like, subscribe, or share it somewhere!
Cover operation shadow hand. Imperial fleets really pushed the republic back and fought on many fronts, but we don't get a great picture of the conflict outside the handful of planets we go to in the dark empire comic
An interesting Out-of-universe thing you may want to look into on this topic is the letter pages of the post-Endor original Marvel Comics. They asked what the fall of the Empire in the more built up core looked like and the original idea communicated to marvel and through the letter page to the fans was that places like Fondor fell first and the Empire was now mostly confined to its military forces deployed to its own former outskirts. It's actually almost more like the New/Disney continuity or the the years-later stages of the Bantam era Legends books. I forget which issue it was in sadly. Also Jerec's evil wizard tower imperial garrison on Sulon like a year or two after Endor. Just sitting on the moon of the New Republic's second biggest shipyard.
So basically, they left a lot of imperial worlds in their rear, focusing on controlling the major hyperspace routes and taking what worlds they could, isolating the imperial worlds they left behind and essentially keeping them from organizing any proper counterattack?
that, and they abused the biggest weakness of warlordism, the inability to cooperate, as seen in the Warlord era in China, it's very hard for Warlords to cooperate with each other, with every new alliance taking over Beijing tearing itself apart in the following years through distrust and opportunism. By their very nature, such a disorganized state, with Warlords not being de facto tied to any central organisation, cooperation becomes irrational, since you might gain less by cooperating with others, thereby putting yourself in a worse position relative to the most powerful Warlords, and if you see a situation where you would gain more than the other, they would refuse to cooperate with you. And when the final 4 super warlords faced off against the KMTs northern expedition, they could not unite, with Feng Yuxiang even joining the KMT, attacking his rivals in the rear, securing himself a high position in the KMT. Which he again lost after Chiang Kai Shek attempted to centralise power to himself, leading many of the KMT allied Warlords to rebel in the Central Plains war. In something that did not happen in Star Wars, the KMT in the meantime attempted to purge the Soviet influence in itself, of which there was a lot since the KMT consistently received support from the Soviet Union, this led to the Shanghai Massacre in which between 5,000 and 10,000 people were, as the name suggests, massacred. Leading to a split within the KMT, and the Chinese civil war, which may or may not ironically have strengthened the CCP, I believe professional opinion on that is divided, I have not researched that thoroughly enough to pick either side. It's hard to say if the CCP would have won or even started an eventual civil war with the KMT, but Chiang's course of action did, in the end, lead to Mao's victory. So yes, the main takeaway from this is that I used Corey's video as a segue to talk about my favourite historical period.
@@MrWheelman82 tells you how well THIS is written then. Someone who understands what happens in the absence of central authority and no clear lines of succession. Personally I use the example of The Diadochi to explain this period in SW history
It's what I would do: by taking key hyperspace nexuses, and also specific hyper lanes like the Hydian way, it isolates a LOT of the remnants from each other. I would also try and put them against each other if I can. Divide and conquer at its finest.
I never would have thought that the Rebel strategy was basically a galactic blitzkrieg, but upon considering how few resources and how the Rebels had generally more maneuverable ships, it makes a lot of sense. It's cool how much the visual medium made your descriptions easier to follow, and it provided a much clearer picture of the importance of obscure battles on some random backwater planets. These are awesome.
This was an absolute vital time for the New Republic for they needed victories against the Empire and the Warlords that rose up after Endor. Those same Warlords were also genius with the resources that had and they were arguably more dangerous now that Palpatine was gone, but luckily they more focus against each other rather than the fledgling New Republic.
Awesome video, great quality! The only criticism I'd have is that it was unclear at times which planets were under Imperial Remnant (Coruscant) control, although arguably there are not enough sources to verify a lot of that.
I love this new video format, it makes it so much easier to follow the lore and understand the campaigns of war. Super engaging, too. Keep up the amazing work. To offer some constructive suggestions, maybe add in symbols to signify an imperial or republic victory. And perhaps blue arrows for the republic fleet movement and red arrows for known imperial fleet movements.
Have to say that was a very succinct and brilliantly retold tale of how the New Republic successfully made use of its resources and the disunity and fractured nature of the imperial warlords and surviving imperial central authority to isolate and destroy weaker imperial warlords in the south, whilst liberating rebel worlds and laying the groundwork for the eventual liberation of Coruscant. Made easy to follow by all the very useful maps and campaigns pushes shown upon them.
Zjinn battles in the books are some of my favorites. Though, I always hesitate to think that the Fleet General Solo commanded really was a match for Zjinn's forces. BUT...the author was smart enough to work around it more or less.
This simply makes more sense from both sides than what we got forced on us in Disney canon. It really felt that they wanted to make Jakku important so tried to make everything revolve around a singular moment instead of a more scattered conflict
Kind of neat that this is largely how I play NR campaigns. In game it makes a lot of sense with the way forces are distributed early on, probably intentionally. Great content
I would very much like to see this done for all the major campaigns that we have details in the Expanded Universe for. Post Endor, Pre-Endor. Hell even the Vong War and others once there's time for them.
A huge singular fleet of Nebulon-Bs and Y-Wings against a Praetor II and other Imp ships?! Whoa, that's kinda rad. I might add that all this would have actually happened in a similar fashion during WW2's end. Can you imagine if the Germans and Japanese were diehard enough to disobey surrender orders and fought on for at least a decade or so? Well, can't wait to see the Liberation of Coruscant, the Isard campaign, the Zsinj campaign, the Thrawn campaign, and Operation Shadow Hand onwards.
This video was really cool and interesting! As for requests of other campaigns, I'd love to see sometime down the road Orinda and the following Imperial overextension.
@@DIEGhostfish Yeah, I've read most of it. Still a shame old Teren didn't get a portrait or the very least a sketch which a lot of old characters in the WEG and guides got.
A fine visualization of a fictional military campaign that can serve *to ask questions on strategy, tactics and procurement* in history. Trying to answer such questions will lead to *less contrived fictional writing* of lasting military concepts (the 'ideal types' of theory) that can be applied even to shifting technologies - practicing the 'multi dimensional' perspective that is demanded by a story, set in the vastness of _space_ , but is actually _already_ constituting e.g. modern submarine warfare (the vectors of horizontal direction across a two dimensional map, diving depth and atmospheric ballistics and the minutae of logistics). Relevant topics that can come to mind: 1. the ancient Peloponnesian War between Greek speaking, Ionian and Dorian power blocs where *seapower* was first considered as decissive and utilized and developed as such by _both sides_ - drawing in the Persian Empire and it's Phonecian shipyards as the crucial factor to a Greek 'civil war' about an emergent hegemony by a 'democratic' Delian League (de facto an Attic Empire, legitimized as an alliance against Persia, but leveraged against 'traditionalist' Laconia) 2. the question in naval theory of prioritizing a *'Decissive Battle Doctrine'* (Mahan, Tirpitz, Imperial Japanese Navy when even an expanding *'Fleet in Being'* - or 'Deterrence Fleet' of two thirds the strength of any largest fleet - could force either political concessions or diplomatic realignments) or *'Commerce Raiding'* (Corbett, Galster, Dönitz - in any case if the latter strategy can't be executed effectively due to a lack of a sufficient number of frigate class vessels than 'maritime supremacy' can't be exploited toward an effective economic blockade and it's intended subsequent political unrest). This topic implies also the technical questions *whether swarms of minor assets can 'defeat in detail' isolated major assets* like sophisticated, well rounded capital ships that are practically impossible to replace, timely (armoured and heavily armed 'Ships of the Line' that require large, trained crews), a problem that is reflected in guided missile and drone warfare in general - the latter a trope that is evoked several times within the STAR WARS franchise - right next to it's 'environmentalism' - when unsuspecting Stormtroopers are engineered or 'bewitched' into 'undead' cyborgs to stop the gap in military personnel in 'legends' - or were just _cloned_ in prequel 'canon' - 'incarnating a mechanical, materialist view of the Force that conncets everything that lives', striving to overwhelm any systemic grasp of the galaxy with fierce, brute coercion... 03:30 When the 'Thallassa' 'battlecruiser' succumbs to a swarm of Nebulon-B 'frigates', one could mention the *'Tarkin Doctrine'* , arguably applied by the Eriadu Authority - home region to Wilhuff Tarkin - as *the doctrine had prioritized the construction of major combat assets, binding entire demographics into the efforts* (reminding of the German Tirpitz-Plan and it's agitative 'Navy League') - instead of focusing on *_operational effectiveness_* by the Imperial Navy - e.g. by building - and thouroughly training - several flotillas of escort and patrol vessels to secure the hyperlane trade routes (e.g. reminiscent of the Allied convoys during the Battle of the Atlantic in WW II) - a school of thought, arguably reflected by a *pragmatic* Grand Admiral Thrawn. Because the latter is a debate that frequently reoccurs in real life - including the global war, we all suffer, currently - it makes for *_immersive_** writing* when applied to fictional worldbuilding - whether screenplay or _gameplay_ (modifications of Petroglyph Games's 'Star Wars: Empires at War' of 2006). 3. the Roman Civil Wars between Senatorial 'optimates' (Sulla, Cicero, Brutii) and Tribunal 'populars' (Gracchii, Marius, Julii, Anthony) which first campaign rapidly escalated into *a 'world war' along trade routes from a central Rome (Coruscant) to an indespensible provincial periphery (e.g. grain exports of the Nile Valley) in order to control the 'ecumene', the known world* . Shakespeare's 'Julius Caesar' had dramatized the Republican strategic reasoning of *shoring it's still very limited forces in the periphery, trading territorial control for time, leveraging the vast resources of Hellenistic colonies in order to encircle and overwhelm - or starve - the central geographic position - which had worked for the 'Entente' and Allies in WW I and WW II before Transatlantic policy shifted in 1945 toward _an imperial 'containment'_ of former colonies and allies with awe inspiring, but maintenance intensive 'super-carriers'... This latter trope is usually ignored by English Speakers and therefore reveals *the ideological blind spot of Transatlantic storytelling* : that everyone, beyond the reach of _Liberal Empire_ is 'worse than Hitler', twisting a STAR WARS franchise, telling a cautious tale of an 'American Bonaparte' into an instrument of the 'politically correct' indoctrination, not toward _pluralist dialogue_ and limited cooperation - e.g. on security politics as in actual 'federalism' - but toward 'universal values', demonizing local, pre-colonial tradition... It is from this contemporary circumstance that the franchise can never be developed into _a classic_ , but will remain _subculture_ , reflecting _civilizational_ flaws in a perpetuated, 'commodified' escapism without offering a relevant resolution to any conflict...
This video is everything we need, a lesser know subject but nevertheless incredibly interesting and the more important, particularly well done and researched. This campaign had always been a favorite subject of mine thank to the EGtW and TR of course. Looking forward to more such videos (Orinda? Final Imperial Campaign? Hunt for Zsinj and the following battles for his territory? Prelude to Dark Empire?).
Excellent video, one of my favorites so far. Just to spitball a suggestion, the map might benefit from something of a visual aid, whether labels to indicate territorial control (to the extent this is even a meaningful concept in-universe), or perhaps some of those stylish emblems indicating Alignment from Authority from whatever a Maldrood is. A periodic cut to the wider state of the galaxy could help contextualize the events at various key points.
That's what the initial display of the leaders' heads/names was for. When faction logos are available, they'll typically be used but the Pentastar Alignment is the only Warlord group to really have their own symbol, and they're the group not really relevant to the period, so they never really show up in the video.
@@CoreysDatapad what are your thoughts on continuing legends .what do you think will happen if they continue legends will the Abeloth be the source of the dark side and thousands of years later she is destroyed for good.do the droids long after the battle of Yavin become the ones who say a long time ago in a galaxy far far away
None of this was really established in this collected way until two years before Legends ended in the first place. Characters like Nantz only got introduced (and retconned as being an older character from the Marvel comics) nearly forty years into the series.
Very cool video! The criticism I have to offer is that there is a noticeable overlap of background music in the first third of the video, between your SWTOR playlist and the stock soundtrack, maybe it's made more noticeable by the fact that I'm familiarized with both of these tracks, it isn't particularly bothersome, but it's a small detail that makes the presentation seem a bit less polished. I think it's interesting how the New Republic's approach proves how important the trade routes were, more than just holding the core worlds or some insular cluster of rich systems in the outer rim, connecting worlds and peoples mattered for many reasons; the warlords sat in their bastions, feeling secure in their diminutive empires, while the galaxy largely moved on under the New Republic's direction. I don't have a suggestion, but I look forward to whatever.
I really appreciate this, as someone that read stuff like the essential guides even I found the Post Endor confusing in terms of the maps and territory, so this video is super helpful. Happy Holidays!
Absolutely remarkable video. The only thing I could ask in the next video, is if you included what novel, video game etc the current battle took place in.
This was pretty awesome dude! I look forward to more in the future! I'd love to hear more about some of the characters here. A break down video for some lesser known commanders from both sides of the civil war could be cool! For more videos like this, I'd be excited really anything but for specifics some Vong War era content would be cool! Or maybe covering the final Imperial push and the Orinda Campaign in greater detail with these cool new assets you've made!
It is a bit annoying that they never go into exactly WHAT they were doing to "Cut off" the Hyperlanes. Interdiction mines like the ones on the way to Mon Cala maby? Because leaving a fleet there seems like a chance to get it caught and hammered. I guess a few snoop ships that can call in a response fleet if the enemy moves out of their usual sectors?
Yeah that would be nice but most of the source material comes from manuals and not novels or games. I know they had frigates with Gravity well generators that didn't work quite as well as full blown Interdictor cruisers but they worked in groups, and mines are something they are known for as well. They were still in the process of gaining military resources so I don't think they had the ability to leave large fleets behind, though fortress worlds do sound cool.
Really, really cool. Doing ones for the clone wars (legends) and the hunt for hoth by the imperials pre esb would be fascinating in this format. Cheers!
This is great stuff! However, is this supported by some Legends material/sources or is this just your interpretation of how events went down in Legends?
This is all put together from.various books and sourcebooks. The map itself is an animated recreation of the versions found in The Essential Atlas along with the description of the four fleets from EGtW. The only non-canon element is stuff like that picture not specifically being of Voon Massa and instead being just a generic Duros officer.
I used to do the same decade ago but only with powerpoint animations. And it took me over a hour to tell same story to quickly shrinking audience at local convention. :P
I don't always get how the connections work because the timeline is always wonky but I always thought Thyferra was an Imperial holding until Coruscant fell. Maybe that's just until Isard decided to take it over I don't know, sorting out the Legends timeline can cause headaches.
I suspect Thyferra was more about imperial assets being chased out the system and the Bacta Cartel retaining independent control of the planet until Isard engineered her coup post-Coruscant. There was never any suggestion Thyferra joined the NR until after the Bacta War. Not all planets joined the NR after the Imperials were forced to retreat. One suspects that NR diplomats were on hand to sign trade deals and non aggression pacts with those non-members, with people like Leia dropping in to try and convince potential members to join later as she was suppose to on Bfpassh.
@@joestraw8870 Makes Sense as the NR was trying to show they were not the Empire and they aggressively courted them in diplomatic negations. With Rogue squadron putting representatives from the cartels in the Squadron. I think when they joined, the NR hoped the Native Vratix would have more representation and the Cartels wouldn't be as tight fisted.
It was attacked from time to time, including by Thrawn, I believe? I suspect it had relatively little in the way of garrisoning or guarding, @Joe Straw , however.
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This was a lot of work, but I think it came out well! Still a lot of improvements I hope to make, but let me know if there's some other campaigns you'd like to see covered in this way. If you enjoyed, make sure to like, subscribe, or share it somewhere!
Maybe make the new Republic space like you did in the warlords and maybe to show in what planets did a battle happened with a little symbol aside
Cover operation shadow hand. Imperial fleets really pushed the republic back and fought on many fronts, but we don't get a great picture of the conflict outside the handful of planets we go to in the dark empire comic
An interesting Out-of-universe thing you may want to look into on this topic is the letter pages of the post-Endor original Marvel Comics. They asked what the fall of the Empire in the more built up core looked like and the original idea communicated to marvel and through the letter page to the fans was that places like Fondor fell first and the Empire was now mostly confined to its military forces deployed to its own former outskirts. It's actually almost more like the New/Disney continuity or the the years-later stages of the Bantam era Legends books. I forget which issue it was in sadly.
Also Jerec's evil wizard tower imperial garrison on Sulon like a year or two after Endor. Just sitting on the moon of the New Republic's second biggest shipyard.
Possible improvment: Different colored lines for different fleets or even different offensives by each fleet.
I'd love for you to cover the later Imperial campaigns (Orinda campaign era)!! Love everything about this video :)
So basically, they left a lot of imperial worlds in their rear, focusing on controlling the major hyperspace routes and taking what worlds they could, isolating the imperial worlds they left behind and essentially keeping them from organizing any proper counterattack?
that, and they abused the biggest weakness of warlordism, the inability to cooperate, as seen in the Warlord era in China, it's very hard for Warlords to cooperate with each other, with every new alliance taking over Beijing tearing itself apart in the following years through distrust and opportunism.
By their very nature, such a disorganized state, with Warlords not being de facto tied to any central organisation, cooperation becomes irrational, since you might gain less by cooperating with others, thereby putting yourself in a worse position relative to the most powerful Warlords, and if you see a situation where you would gain more than the other, they would refuse to cooperate with you. And when the final 4 super warlords faced off against the KMTs northern expedition, they could not unite, with Feng Yuxiang even joining the KMT, attacking his rivals in the rear, securing himself a high position in the KMT. Which he again lost after Chiang Kai Shek attempted to centralise power to himself, leading many of the KMT allied Warlords to rebel in the Central Plains war.
In something that did not happen in Star Wars, the KMT in the meantime attempted to purge the Soviet influence in itself, of which there was a lot since the KMT consistently received support from the Soviet Union, this led to the Shanghai Massacre in which between 5,000 and 10,000 people were, as the name suggests, massacred. Leading to a split within the KMT, and the Chinese civil war, which may or may not ironically have strengthened the CCP, I believe professional opinion on that is divided, I have not researched that thoroughly enough to pick either side.
It's hard to say if the CCP would have won or even started an eventual civil war with the KMT, but Chiang's course of action did, in the end, lead to Mao's victory.
So yes, the main takeaway from this is that I used Corey's video as a segue to talk about my favourite historical period.
@@MrWheelman82 Also the Soviets convincing Roosevelt to sabotage a ceasefire between the KMT and the Japanese to further grind them down.
WW2 Pacific theatre and the US ‘island hopping’ strategy.
@@MrWheelman82 tells you how well THIS is written then. Someone who understands what happens in the absence of central authority and no clear lines of succession. Personally I use the example of The Diadochi to explain this period in SW history
It's what I would do: by taking key hyperspace nexuses, and also specific hyper lanes like the Hydian way, it isolates a LOT of the remnants from each other. I would also try and put them against each other if I can. Divide and conquer at its finest.
I never would have thought that the Rebel strategy was basically a galactic blitzkrieg, but upon considering how few resources and how the Rebels had generally more maneuverable ships, it makes a lot of sense.
It's cool how much the visual medium made your descriptions easier to follow, and it provided a much clearer picture of the importance of obscure battles on some random backwater planets.
These are awesome.
This was an absolute vital time for the New Republic for they needed victories against the Empire and the Warlords that rose up after Endor. Those same Warlords were also genius with the resources that had and they were arguably more dangerous now that Palpatine was gone, but luckily they more focus against each other rather than the fledgling New Republic.
Corey’s Datapad actively makes me want to get more into Legends
To quote Palpatine, Dooo it!
Awesome video, great quality! The only criticism I'd have is that it was unclear at times which planets were under Imperial Remnant (Coruscant) control, although arguably there are not enough sources to verify a lot of that.
Yeah it's VERY unclear even in the lore.
Yea and the minor warlords territory is very unclear also.
@@DriftedVisionMan The Essential Atlas and Guide to Warfare are generally the best sources for this, especially the (rough) territory maps.
Bro.. I know I'm a little late to the table here...
But this shit is so money.
Absolutely fantastic work, my dude. Bravo!
I love this new video format, it makes it so much easier to follow the lore and understand the campaigns of war. Super engaging, too. Keep up the amazing work.
To offer some constructive suggestions, maybe add in symbols to signify an imperial or republic victory. And perhaps blue arrows for the republic fleet movement and red arrows for known imperial fleet movements.
Red is New Republic color. Green is Empire.
Have to say that was a very succinct and brilliantly retold tale of how the New Republic successfully made use of its resources and the disunity and fractured nature of the imperial warlords and surviving imperial central authority to isolate and destroy weaker imperial warlords in the south, whilst liberating rebel worlds and laying the groundwork for the eventual liberation of Coruscant. Made easy to follow by all the very useful maps and campaigns pushes shown upon them.
I have to be honest. I'm loveing this series/type of videos. They are easy to understand and know + the clear animations. Keep it up Corey, please.
Man, this is my favourite video you've ever done. Amazing. Can't wait for more
Zjinn battles in the books are some of my favorites. Though, I always hesitate to think that the Fleet General Solo commanded really was a match for Zjinn's forces. BUT...the author was smart enough to work around it more or less.
This simply makes more sense from both sides than what we got forced on us in Disney canon. It really felt that they wanted to make Jakku important so tried to make everything revolve around a singular moment instead of a more scattered conflict
That ws amazing. I hope you will do a follow up. I love playing empire at war amd Follow legends story after endor. Now it will be even easier ;)
Very nice!
Yo, Sick map Visuals.
Wow! This B roll model footage is amazing.
Kind of neat that this is largely how I play NR campaigns. In game it makes a lot of sense with the way forces are distributed early on, probably intentionally. Great content
I would very much like to see this done for all the major campaigns that we have details in the Expanded Universe for.
Post Endor, Pre-Endor. Hell even the Vong War and others once there's time for them.
3:30 Moorja always seemed like something of a joke battle that they just stuck in there.
A huge singular fleet of Nebulon-Bs and Y-Wings against a Praetor II and other Imp ships?! Whoa, that's kinda rad.
I might add that all this would have actually happened in a similar fashion during WW2's end. Can you imagine if the Germans and Japanese were diehard enough to disobey surrender orders and fought on for at least a decade or so?
Well, can't wait to see the Liberation of Coruscant, the Isard campaign, the Zsinj campaign, the Thrawn campaign, and Operation Shadow Hand onwards.
The video turned out fantastic. I love the map, it really helps visualizing those campaigns on a galactic scale.
This format is amazing, please, continue doing this kind of video
This video was really cool and interesting! As for requests of other campaigns, I'd love to see sometime down the road Orinda and the following Imperial overextension.
Loved the new map. It would be awesome to see some of the Vong war played out in this style. I haven't read those books so I'm curious.
great video would love to see more content like this in the future
Greatest Video ever please do more an all the rest of the GCW campaigns
I really love this map based video, I can better connect events and characters. Really looking forward to the next part in the series
15:08 Huh, I coulda sworn Rogriss got art somewhere, but no, Phennir just has to take all the glory.
Nah. Rogriss didn't, also, that's like one of the only good Phennir art.
@@noda2322 Phennir's fine in most of the comic. The comic had good art.
@@DIEGhostfish Yeah, I've read most of it. Still a shame old Teren didn't get a portrait or the very least a sketch which a lot of old characters in the WEG and guides got.
@@noda2322 On the topic of Phennir I remember someone suggesting a Star Wars version of 0083 Stardust Memory with Phennir as Anavel Gato.
@@DIEGhostfish some gundam guy? What do they have in common?
It'd be great to see the Crimson Command campaign! Which map-making software did you use for this? It looks great 😁
This is one of my favorite videos you've done, awesome info and the animations were fantastic!
I really needed this video. Now I understand how NR went from rebellion to galactic government.
A magnificient video
Really the kind of things I love to see
Respect for the work and really excited for more !
A fine visualization of a fictional military campaign that can serve *to ask questions on strategy, tactics and procurement* in history.
Trying to answer such questions will lead to *less contrived fictional writing* of lasting military concepts (the 'ideal types' of theory) that can be applied even to shifting technologies - practicing the 'multi dimensional' perspective that is demanded by a story, set in the vastness of _space_ , but is actually _already_ constituting e.g. modern submarine warfare (the vectors of horizontal direction across a two dimensional map, diving depth and atmospheric ballistics and the minutae of logistics).
Relevant topics that can come to mind:
1. the ancient Peloponnesian War between Greek speaking, Ionian and Dorian power blocs where *seapower* was first considered as decissive and utilized and developed as such by _both sides_ - drawing in the Persian Empire and it's Phonecian shipyards as the crucial factor to a Greek 'civil war' about an emergent hegemony by a 'democratic' Delian League (de facto an Attic Empire, legitimized as an alliance against Persia, but leveraged against 'traditionalist' Laconia)
2. the question in naval theory of prioritizing a *'Decissive Battle Doctrine'* (Mahan, Tirpitz, Imperial Japanese Navy when even an expanding *'Fleet in Being'* - or 'Deterrence Fleet' of two thirds the strength of any largest fleet - could force either political concessions or diplomatic realignments) or *'Commerce Raiding'* (Corbett, Galster, Dönitz - in any case if the latter strategy can't be executed effectively due to a lack of a sufficient number of frigate class vessels than 'maritime supremacy' can't be exploited toward an effective economic blockade and it's intended subsequent political unrest).
This topic implies also the technical questions *whether swarms of minor assets can 'defeat in detail' isolated major assets* like sophisticated, well rounded capital ships that are practically impossible to replace, timely (armoured and heavily armed 'Ships of the Line' that require large, trained crews), a problem that is reflected in guided missile and drone warfare in general - the latter a trope that is evoked several times within the STAR WARS franchise - right next to it's 'environmentalism' - when unsuspecting Stormtroopers are engineered or 'bewitched' into 'undead' cyborgs to stop the gap in military personnel in 'legends' - or were just _cloned_ in prequel 'canon' - 'incarnating a mechanical, materialist view of the Force that conncets everything that lives', striving to overwhelm any systemic grasp of the galaxy with fierce, brute coercion...
03:30
When the 'Thallassa' 'battlecruiser' succumbs to a swarm of Nebulon-B 'frigates', one could mention the *'Tarkin Doctrine'* , arguably applied by the Eriadu Authority - home region to Wilhuff Tarkin - as *the doctrine had prioritized the construction of major combat assets, binding entire demographics into the efforts* (reminding of the German Tirpitz-Plan and it's agitative 'Navy League') - instead of focusing on *_operational effectiveness_* by the Imperial Navy - e.g. by building - and thouroughly training - several flotillas of escort and patrol vessels to secure the hyperlane trade routes (e.g. reminiscent of the Allied convoys during the Battle of the Atlantic in WW II) - a school of thought, arguably reflected by a *pragmatic* Grand Admiral Thrawn.
Because the latter is a debate that frequently reoccurs in real life - including the global war, we all suffer, currently - it makes for *_immersive_** writing* when applied to fictional worldbuilding - whether screenplay or _gameplay_ (modifications of Petroglyph Games's 'Star Wars: Empires at War' of 2006).
3. the Roman Civil Wars between Senatorial 'optimates' (Sulla, Cicero, Brutii) and Tribunal 'populars' (Gracchii, Marius, Julii, Anthony) which first campaign rapidly escalated into *a 'world war' along trade routes from a central Rome (Coruscant) to an indespensible provincial periphery (e.g. grain exports of the Nile Valley) in order to control the 'ecumene', the known world* .
Shakespeare's 'Julius Caesar' had dramatized the Republican strategic reasoning of *shoring it's still very limited forces in the periphery, trading territorial control for time, leveraging the vast resources of Hellenistic colonies in order to encircle and overwhelm - or starve - the central geographic position - which had worked for the 'Entente' and Allies in WW I and WW II before Transatlantic policy shifted in 1945 toward _an imperial 'containment'_ of former colonies and allies with awe inspiring, but maintenance intensive 'super-carriers'...
This latter trope is usually ignored by English Speakers and therefore reveals *the ideological blind spot of Transatlantic storytelling* : that everyone, beyond the reach of _Liberal Empire_ is 'worse than Hitler', twisting a STAR WARS franchise, telling a cautious tale of an 'American Bonaparte' into an instrument of the 'politically correct' indoctrination, not toward _pluralist dialogue_ and limited cooperation - e.g. on security politics as in actual 'federalism' - but toward 'universal values', demonizing local, pre-colonial tradition...
It is from this contemporary circumstance that the franchise can never be developed into _a classic_ , but will remain _subculture_ , reflecting _civilizational_ flaws in a perpetuated, 'commodified' escapism without offering a relevant resolution to any conflict...
This is beautiful, and zoomed out to the scale I enjoy the most for scifi/fantasy wars.
Awesome job! You always make good stuff, and the time youve taken on this one is clear 🙂
Amazing. This is so effective at setting out the chronology. I'd love to see something similar for the Vong War
I would love to see one of the Yuuzhan Vong War.
This video is everything we need, a lesser know subject but nevertheless incredibly interesting and the more important, particularly well done and researched. This campaign had always been a favorite subject of mine thank to the EGtW and TR of course. Looking forward to more such videos (Orinda? Final Imperial Campaign? Hunt for Zsinj and the following battles for his territory? Prelude to Dark Empire?).
Great video and a lovely Kotor 2 music ❤️
Excellent video, one of my favorites so far. Just to spitball a suggestion, the map might benefit from something of a visual aid, whether labels to indicate territorial control (to the extent this is even a meaningful concept in-universe), or perhaps some of those stylish emblems indicating Alignment from Authority from whatever a Maldrood is. A periodic cut to the wider state of the galaxy could help contextualize the events at various key points.
That's what the initial display of the leaders' heads/names was for. When faction logos are available, they'll typically be used but the Pentastar Alignment is the only Warlord group to really have their own symbol, and they're the group not really relevant to the period, so they never really show up in the video.
@@CoreysDatapad what are your thoughts on continuing legends .what do you think will happen if they continue legends will the Abeloth be the source of the dark side and thousands of years later she is destroyed for good.do the droids long after the battle of Yavin become the ones who say a long time ago in a galaxy far far away
It still baffles me how they couldn’t bring something like this in canon. Why shaft the New Republic of all the factions?
None of this was really established in this collected way until two years before Legends ended in the first place. Characters like Nantz only got introduced (and retconned as being an older character from the Marvel comics) nearly forty years into the series.
Amazing video quality Corey! You know what, my fav shot was the underside of the MC80B. I had no idea your model had a ventral hanger! Beautiful work
This was an awesome video. Hope you can make a part two.
great job, i love the galaxy map progression animations.
Loved this. The energy invested into this work is very well reflected, it turned out a great video.
This is exactly what I come to the channel for; another great lore video!
I would love to see this series all the way up till 45ABY, covering every event. This video was excellent.
Wow the new republic didn’t waste any time after Endor and these grand strategies make sense
Very cool! I enjoyed it very much. Thanks
This was awesome- great work!! I look forward to more!
This is great, looking forward to the follow up!
Excellent video Corey, thank you for your hard work
It was so cool. Lot's of good work right there !!!
this is my favorite of your videos, very good job.
This is fantastic, keep up the good work.
i really loved this cory! good job
Very cool video! The criticism I have to offer is that there is a noticeable overlap of background music in the first third of the video, between your SWTOR playlist and the stock soundtrack, maybe it's made more noticeable by the fact that I'm familiarized with both of these tracks, it isn't particularly bothersome, but it's a small detail that makes the presentation seem a bit less polished.
I think it's interesting how the New Republic's approach proves how important the trade routes were, more than just holding the core worlds or some insular cluster of rich systems in the outer rim, connecting worlds and peoples mattered for many reasons; the warlords sat in their bastions, feeling secure in their diminutive empires, while the galaxy largely moved on under the New Republic's direction.
I don't have a suggestion, but I look forward to whatever.
I really appreciate this, as someone that read stuff like the essential guides even I found the Post Endor confusing in terms of the maps and territory, so this video is super helpful. Happy Holidays!
Excellent work, like a real historical documentary.
great video, Corey!
I love the Essential Atlas. Great resource for my rpg campaigns.
this was one of your best so far. Would be amazing if you can make a part 2!
The animations are neat and spot on. Always a pleasant eyecatcher next to the interesting documentation of the battles. ❤
Absolutely remarkable video. The only thing I could ask in the next video, is if you included what novel, video game etc the current battle took place in.
Awesome video. Great Job!
Definitely more like these please!!!!
This was pretty awesome dude! I look forward to more in the future! I'd love to hear more about some of the characters here. A break down video for some lesser known commanders from both sides of the civil war could be cool!
For more videos like this, I'd be excited really anything but for specifics some Vong War era content would be cool! Or maybe covering the final Imperial push and the Orinda Campaign in greater detail with these cool new assets you've made!
It is a bit annoying that they never go into exactly WHAT they were doing to "Cut off" the Hyperlanes. Interdiction mines like the ones on the way to Mon Cala maby? Because leaving a fleet there seems like a chance to get it caught and hammered. I guess a few snoop ships that can call in a response fleet if the enemy moves out of their usual sectors?
Yeah that would be nice but most of the source material comes from manuals and not novels or games. I know they had frigates with Gravity well generators that didn't work quite as well as full blown Interdictor cruisers but they worked in groups, and mines are something they are known for as well. They were still in the process of gaining military resources so I don't think they had the ability to leave large fleets behind, though fortress worlds do sound cool.
This makes more sense then the Disney books.
Thank you for bringing up this, I needed this for my headcanon for operation: cinder/battle of jakku era.👍
I'd love to see the Second Galactic Civil War get this treatment.
I’m new to your channel and I absolutely love the quality of work that you have put into these breakdown videos!
Fantastic breakdown and format! But who's this Luke Skywalker guy? Must be a minor character, with no photo reference.
Really, really cool. Doing ones for the clone wars (legends) and the hunt for hoth by the imperials pre esb would be fascinating in this format. Cheers!
Great video.
This is great stuff!
However, is this supported by some Legends material/sources or is this just your interpretation of how events went down in Legends?
This is all put together from.various books and sourcebooks. The map itself is an animated recreation of the versions found in The Essential Atlas along with the description of the four fleets from EGtW. The only non-canon element is stuff like that picture not specifically being of Voon Massa and instead being just a generic Duros officer.
Great job!
Really good video continue it. Plz
amazing
I used to do the same decade ago but only with powerpoint animations. And it took me over a hour to tell same story to quickly shrinking audience at local convention. :P
Outstanding
I don't always get how the connections work because the timeline is always wonky but I always thought Thyferra was an Imperial holding until Coruscant fell. Maybe that's just until Isard decided to take it over I don't know, sorting out the Legends timeline can cause headaches.
I suspect Thyferra was more about imperial assets being chased out the system and the Bacta Cartel retaining independent control of the planet until Isard engineered her coup post-Coruscant. There was never any suggestion Thyferra joined the NR until after the Bacta War.
Not all planets joined the NR after the Imperials were forced to retreat. One suspects that NR diplomats were on hand to sign trade deals and non aggression pacts with those non-members, with people like Leia dropping in to try and convince potential members to join later as she was suppose to on Bfpassh.
@@joestraw8870 Makes Sense as the NR was trying to show they were not the Empire and they aggressively courted them in diplomatic negations. With Rogue squadron putting representatives from the cartels in the Squadron. I think when they joined, the NR hoped the Native Vratix would have more representation and the Cartels wouldn't be as tight fisted.
Fantastic
I would love to see some content on the imperial civil war and other imperial v imperial wars that we don’t often see
The issue I had with this video was the competing two overlapping music tracks that played at the first two minutes.
14:58 Admiral Boomhauer???
Very Epic
New here
Nice channel 👍🏻
You should do more animated documentaries on star wars 🙏🤩😍👍
Please include the song _On the road to Coruscant_ …
How did you make the animations for the ships? SFM?
Blender
Map is soooooo nice
Would you consider doing the Durge Lance or the major engagements in TCW Anakin participated in some notable capacity?
vong campaign please
Was Bespin left isolated after Lando liberated it?
It was attacked from time to time, including by Thrawn, I believe? I suspect it had relatively little in the way of garrisoning or guarding, @Joe Straw , however.
This legends post endor galactic civilwar was better than canon
Alternative title: Admiral Ackbar's Space Blitzkrieg
Who would win, The TIE Bomber, or The CIS Hyena Bomber?
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