Nairobi, The City Under Water! What Is Not Being Done?
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2024
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We can complain untill the cows come home but nothing will change because the rot starts from the top.
Actually, if you really stop to think about it, the rot starts from below. Those at the top didn't just find themselves there. We put them there. And they just didn't become corrupt once they got there, we as a society are inherently corrupt. Only when given the opportunity or power, is when our true selves come out
This Ndu girl is scintillatingly charming! I love her accuracy and fluency too. Besides, she's composed and witty.
What a great team! CT and Erick, you guys were gifted with big brains. Much love!
Problem is the Yamune corruption is on another level, they kula kilakitu... They should never start any new projects unless old ones are concluded.
😂😂 they look at any road as a race track.
angry omera
SO MUCH RAIN ☔ & WATER AND YET NAIROBI WATER CAN'T DELIVER WATER 💦
kiambu county... is the one with no piped water from githurai, bypass kamakis ruiru ,etc
What a shame😊
We don't love ourselves, otherwise we would build our countries to make our lives comfortable. What I like about Europe is life is made easier for you, the walkways, the parks, the trains, the roads, cycling etc. Life has been been made easier for you.
Your guest today was on hot seat proper! Let no one ever come to air lies. I'm really impressed by this team because they are not partial or biased but call it what it is; you didn't entertain lies of politics, Kudos!
A place of Cool waters indeed.
USA 🇺🇸 has underground railway station (Chicago) in 1867 - Nairobi will not see even roads leave alone railways next 1,000 years
The problem with Nairobi starts at independence with mistakes that the Kenyatta regime made.
Colonialist surveyed Nairobi and states it will be problematic with water because it is flat and soggy and preferred where Machakos is for the capital.
Kenyatta wanted capital near his people.
Yet, we can't blame Kenyatta purely because problems are there to be solved. And here we have two or three problems
1. None existent drainage or pathetic drainage system in the whole of Nairobi
2. Greed and lack of respect for nature! We grab every land that is not under water including dry river beds, riparian etc and we end up paying a hefty price.
Unless we put a master marshal plan that addresses all these issues we shall continue crying.
Eiiish! This story of yours is far fetched. Yes, it is true that the very first colonialists considered having Machakos as the main depot and future capital city but that changed soon after the railway line reached Nairobi and went beyond.
The decision to move the capital city (main depot) from Machakos to Nairobi was made in the early 1900's.Jomo Kenyatta was just a small boy at that time.
It all started with one man .
Isn't syokimau, which is drowning right now in machakos?
Funny you blame Kenyatta for position of city like he was part of colonial government that planned the city location? Or like he was consulted
I agree with the lady , until we start putting value on things or our lives are doing nothing
The root cause is - there is no intention and will to administer the roads
Our primary challenge lies not in corruption but in our collective lack of planning ability. It's imperative that we prioritize learning effective planning skills, beginning with something as basic as punctuality.
I slightly disagree with your statement. Yes we lack planning and punctuality, but it is the corruption that is killing us. For example, a person can wake up in the morning, go to school or work at 12pm with only one pencil, yes he is really bad planning but atleast he got to school. Yes he is a failure but he is way better than the idiot who sold his books, uniform and never bothered getting to the school in the first place.
What is corruption to you? Anything that is not done right to benefit or deny benefit , is all corruption.
The problem is that there are too few people willing to make the right choices.... Starting with the voters! It's almost a hopeless situation
We don't need to have any skills, we can import skills from Japanese, Chinese, Korean. All we want to do like good well marked roads, with side walks and footbridges done within genuine cost is not rocket science, it has been elsewhere. The problem is the will to do it.
it's all corruption
Nairobi means the place of many waters. Those who came to Nairobi a while ago, know that the estates in Makadara, Nairobi West, Dam estate & Dam estate were all Wetlands.
Actually, nairobi means cold, not many waters...
ITS A PLACE OF COOL WATERS
Makadara those estates are just built on black cotton soil, the bad thing is that all sides of the river banks are settled nowadays.
This is the only conversation I’ve heard in the past few days since the torrential rains that suggest Kenya can restructure itself to benefit the people AND become a world class leading African nation.
I live in Kilifi county, the new Mombasa to Kilifi highway is under construction. As much as KENHA has done, and it is seen, i give them that. The road has been constructed. However,
1. The road has passed through many private properties, though no compensation has been given, we do not even know how much the valuation is for our compensation. KENHA blames National Lands Commission, NLC blames the president, i have personally lost hope and think that our land has been grabbed by the government.
2. Conners have been cut. What i mean is that many farms and properties have been cut off from accessing the actual road due to the excavation done. Then what was the point of the road if even us as locals cannot access it. Who was it built for then? And the damage is already done. I believe they did it intentionally knowing that the locals do not have the ability to demand for those rights due to poverty.
3. Due to the excavations, they have not done due diligence to finish the cliff walls, and now there is high risk of landslides in several areas.
Waking up in the morning seeing the damage done to my property just kills morale.
Sorry for my rant, i just needed to get it out. I enjoy the show everyday, let our voices be heard.
If possible i would like to hear from the National Land Commission ragarding land compensation around the entire country. NLC is not compensating kenyans on the land the government has "acquired". Or if they do, there are some Kenyans who are more Kenyan than others.
The government is busy all over stealing land, either physically or pocketing citizens compensation.
That bit where PS,s are career civil servants progression was a big mess to scrap it. Every executive sector in government is now led by dudderhead politicians.
pole sana
When I see a major road under construction passing through a town or an urban centre I cry instead of cheering. The centre will be cut off from itself, no footbridges, no access from one side of the road to the other. The total disregard is sickening.
Very bad indeed! When it comes to compensation they normally drug their feet! But what is the purpose of the new Mombasa-Kilifi highway? I had not heard of it's construction at all! I only was aware of the construction of the road to "South Coast" from Mombasa instead of using the ferry! Is it not enough just using Nyali Bridge...to Kongowea....Bombolulu...Bamburi....Mtwapa....to Kilifi or there is a traffic jam issue on that road so this construction would solve the problem?
😅 I have a buddy in Kenya who works in procurement.
And he always says there is money, but that part of paying out is the hard one
Lynn this guy is brilliant, very intelligent. He is an eloquent speaker full of wisdom. He knows what he is talking about. I agree with him
This country might be on OLX, be vigilant wakuu 😂😂😂😂😂
Cities like Nairobi need visionaries in charge, they will foresee and hire people to master plan the city and contract right people to implement the program...but additionally we lack the proper resources to execute
My reactions watching this... 😡😢😂😮😭
Only God will save Kenya.
God helps those who help themselves, I don't think God loves Africans with this level of corruption.
Bado wanajenga nyumba, State House pia inataka renovation.😂
🙄🙄🙄
And the Spiced-Talks continue. I have spent 47minutes listening to the 3 of you and I am "surprised" we have such excellent Brains in this Country. Politicians will always be, accountability and enforcement is our biggest undoing. No wonder over the last 2 years, almost everyone who had land is putting up 8 Storey 2 BR Apartments like day and night: and you are left asking - who do these guys know that I don't, where do they go that I dont know. In the same COUNTRY. Let's take these conversations to another level beyond just amazing talks.
This is a very critical conversation on the state of our roads and the big mess that we have in this country coupled with the heavy floods! 30:31 Eric Latif explains very well when he looks at the "Structure of many of the companies that are doing roads in the country"....Engineer... Exchequer... Contractor....etc.
Nairobi means that is cold
Stare house road - some parts don't have street lights & Nairobi doesn't have pedestrian 🚶 pavements at all. The list is endless
31:10 Surprising Latiff has this insight and still advocates for the [competitive] process to go on. Prevention is no longer better than cure?
If you already know minimum costs/requirements for something why bother waiting for problems to occur in future by awarding lower bids? Evaluation/inspections can't be forgone but wonder where pending bills including specifically lawyers fees & other contingencies are coming from?
Procurement laws and procedures have to change to only consider companies that are reputable & can show tangible results. If companies that meet such criteria don't exists KE it simply doesn't matter!
tell people not to litter carelessly as well, trash clogs drains
Always trying to transfer blame. Let the people who asked to be elected show that they know what they are there for plus prove they can perform!
As Kibaki used to say, burre kabisaa!!!
@@The_Jamhuri okay, you've convinced me. Pollution is a non-factor; leadership only matters. Carry on littering
You're missing the bigger picture: Once the money is released, the contractor exhausts it paying kickbacks to public servants and politicians.
I would love to spend a day with CT 😂 This man’s sarcasm and laughter reminds me of my old man.
We will debate till eternity but the problem is neither the contractor nor money not being released. The problem is the lion share markup demand from the 'broker'.
that scenario of a hit and run mother and child happened at Uthiru once
This is not just corrupt but next level olodo!! Sickening
The waters are just claiming their rightfull place before humanity invaded😂😂
These underpasses are a mess! The Zambezi one was a huge swimming pool this morning.
"They" intend it to become the Zambezi river. Pun intended.
We sould OUTSOURCE these roads building to Chinese & India or other countries who deliver - mortgage the country because we don't deserve It (wanjigu)
Koskei Arap Sakaja ✔️
Things can only change for better when the budget is meant to benefit public and not some individuals in the government.
My fellow Kenyans, this country has had professional engineers since independence; they have even become lecturers and are now teaching new engineers. There has not been any bridge built by a Kenyan engineer that has become the standard for all the bridges in the country. The Chinese came and build a flyover road that is being held by a bridge all along, why don’t we just copy paste what the Chinese did, and have that as the standard for all the bridges in Kenya ? Kenyans let’s not expect first world infrastructure with third world leadership at the helm, let’s just accept who we are and slow down on our expectations.
There is nothing scary than driving in snowfall. No visibility at all
Nanda!
we have wrong people at right position and right people in wrong niches
The US have something they call “the highway trust fund “ which finances most federal and state government spending for highways and mass transit. Revenues for the trust fund come from transportation related excise taxes, primarily federal taxes on gasoline and diesel fuel. The trust fund receives a small amount of interest on the trust fund reserves and these trust has been there since president Eisenhower. The trust fund has separate accounts for highways and mass transit, because obligations from the trust fund generally are far capital projects that take several years to complete, outlays and reflect projects authorized by congress in previous years. Kenya needs a trust fund where nobody can put their sticky fingers in it and over time it can build interest while the roads are being constructed country wide.
Water Mapping is what is not being done... and not just Nairobi... Eastern and north eastern Kenya. we have engineers who can map these water ways, direct the waters to big dams they should have already built because, when dry season comes again there is no water for irrigation and animals because all the waters was wasted in the Indian ocean. We cannot suffer both extremes of weather ... must we tell these old religious people what to do all the time?
Kenya will implode one day
The buck stops with the top seat, the day we elect someone who is willing to fry the big fish Kenya will be a better place, but for as long as the top seat keeps on receiving kickbacks from failed projects there's no hope. Why doesn't it happen in Rwanda??
Can the National Youth Service be mobilized to assist people in crisis?
Nairobi city is sinking,I run away to my village and breath fresh air
Alighuula! Wataghuula! Wameghuula!
India and China builds over 40 km of first class world class roads PER DAY - so that economy moves - without roads WE REMAIN IN RUT OF UTTER POVERTY
Do you think the problem is inability of Kenyan contractors or the problem starts with people cutting deals? A contractor was given the work out of a deal. How will they do the job with half the money for the contract going to the people who procured the job. In fact I am pro building our local construction industry. But that comes with integrity and accountability.
Good comment Ndu . What happens is ---- they know they want to gobble and stay on to cover their tracks and those of their masters. Impunity. Eric-- possible to sit all those Macharias etc na muwe na a good laywer on your panel. Tuskie how thry lie to our faces.
May the Gods help this country. “Things Fall Apart” Part II. This time we can’t blame the colonizer.
Who created Nairobi city?😅 They can't escape
Even if Murkomen is given 100 years as minister of road/ transport he will do nothing?
My sister is one of those mothers her daughter is a grown woman of 24 years old..
Kenyans seem not to learn, or perhaps politicians don't listen and care. It's disheartening to see our talented engineers jobless just because of their tribe. We struggle to even construct a decent drainage system. What is the government's role in all this?
Water in SouthB?
I like the way you talk among your self trying to fill the gaps. The whole thing is corruption especially with the engineers who inspect the completion of the projects . They usually give certificates before completion and on higher above does QA
The current leaders in the government have nothing to “eat” on the unfinished projects. That’s why it’s none of their business.
They better start new projects where they have their “cuts.” And this replicates with governors across all the 47 counties.
Talk of a country with no accountability, corrupt to the core, and breaking laws have no consequences.
It’s time for Ruto people to eat and exit the scene like their predecessors have done. Woe unto helpless Kenyan citizens who elect these leaders every election cycle. Nothing will change.
we need to agree that our roads and drainage systems have a role to play. These politicians always neglect their duties untli the 11th hour before elections just to lie to kenyans. In my neighborhood where I grew up, komarock-kayole hapo naivas, the road just adjacent to the supermarket would turn into a pool when it rained but would roughly be patched before elections, just right to ensure the road would disintegrate after the mheshimiwa gets into office until the next election where it would be a problem that the citizens would raise. We used to call it barabara ya campaign.
Politicians are elected by voters.
Too much concrete...and bad drainage,or drainages that are not maintained. Thats why there is weather forecast!!. If its forecasted it will rain heavily in europe you see,maintenance workers checking and clearing all drains before it rains.
Remember we don't eat roads. 😊
A question for the team. A history one to be precise. Has there ever been a point in time in the territory we now call Kenya when Public Service was built to serve ordinary mwanainchi?
Public service is non existent in Kenya.
Don't blame the leaders, blame the culture of Kenyans. Nobody is mad enough to kick ruto in the face. Raila is the only solution to this madness, otherwise, tu kae hivyo hivyo
Mombasa rd is so dangerous nowadays after the compilation of Expressway. Unprotected drenches on the sides, unmarked lanes, half done patches, pot holes etc. Ruto instructs his CS Murkomen to bring down the road carnage. You will see what he will. Instead making roads safe to drive on he will target drivers. You will hear of refresh courses, drivers aged 70 to do this and that. He has been unable even to enforce Michuki rules. A poor maintained will definitely be a cause for accidents but nobody goes to that direction. Easy way out is to harass drivers.
Hatuna nchi hapa.... Politicians are eating but the common mwananchi is depressed!!
You people you make me laugh.
Get the Military to complete those section that have not been done. We need to use the Military and National Youth Services (NYS).
Do they work for free? The previous regime was compensating them. There is no one to do that now
Wapeane to military ndio wakulie wapi?
Why use the military? The military has its role which has nothing to do with building roads. We can't run to military to provide solutions to every broken civil issue.
It's not called yamune corruption but it's called Yamune republic
government by the people, for the people is old Maxim - we all are to blame - society is not hardworking like Chinese (no 2)or Indian economies (no 3) who are extremely hard working.
and you know Kenya 🇰🇪 doesn't have rivers - India has rivers like oceans & yet 1.4 billion are no 3 economy - they also get rains - the rain that no Kenyan imagine - it simply pours & kenyans 'rivers' are in comparison tiny gutters
Legalize corruption so that we can pin point the culprits
But people voted for this.
Kipchumba Murkomaneno said Ngong -Suswa would be finished.. promise to parliament and nothing till now ..
Banana Republic at best!!
Yamune government
KENHA at times is a joke, one day they just decided to put bumps on southern by pass until death and accidents happened is when they learnt of their stupidity
China/ Dubai roads under water too? what do you about those roads
China/Dubia road are not incomplete unlike Kenyan roads taking a decade to do 16km of road
Ours happen every year, without fail. Dubai this year for example, was an anomaly, given the country is a desert. And I assure you, those guys will fix it. Our cities are poorly planned because of corruption and we build high rises without supporting infrastructure.
Kariuki your reasoning is a bit off
tunawaambianga Republic of Kenya was Never meant to work mnashindia mara constitution, mara voting but no It won't. Bring Communist party guy Booker for cogent discourse.....
But no
Wakenya walisema na wakaambiwa hawakuli barabara 😢😅, Ruto tano tena 🤣
Enterprise road construction began 15yrs ago?
Was Ruto in power then?
What we are facing now is as a result of recurrent regime mistakes
This story by gava is BORING as it happens every year, year in year out.
Plans, plans, plans, we are planning ......................................where are the actions?
Cyclical issues with zero solutions.
Tiring and boring.
Meanwhile we read stories of theft in Nairobi county, year on year ..........also cyclical.
i suggest that we the mwananchi demo but i guess, by blaming our culture, its easier to type than to go picket at these sites
What is the root cause of problem - imagine few people running a company do better than collective power of all MPS in parliament - PRIVATIZE THE ECONOMY - LET PEOPLE OWN ROADS
Stop being a senseless capitalist.
Budget, Budget Budget......the number of times you guys have mentioned "budget" makes me think you don't know what it is. This thing is a plan of execution and not execution itself. So, when you say money has been eaten because there was a budget, the question is, was the money released?
Makosa ni ya rais wenyu, ali futilia mbali kandarisi zote za barabara
Rubbish!
The amount of corruption in kenya is so much ...
Politicians are pushing us to be constant complainers at our expense, we hold and have the power to liberate ourselves . The ball is in our half.🫡
SO MUCH RAIN ☔ & WATER AND YET NAIROBI WATER CAN'T DELIVER WATER 💦